Re: [Blackbelly] Algae bloom in ponds

2011-07-27 Thread Mary Swindell

Rick,

I read in one of our Ilinois Ag extension reports that it is safe to 
add 3 - 4 oz. regular bleach to a 50-gallon water tank.  I've been 
doing that at my farm for several years, and it keeps the algae down 
during the hot weather.  I have sheep, ducks, chickens and geese who 
all drink from these water tanks safely.  The important safety issue 
is simply to not use too much bleach per gallon water.  Sorry, I 
would not know how to estimate the amount needed for your pond.


Another idea for your pond:  Have you thought of using Aquashade?  It 
is available in farm stores, and I think it keeps the algae bloom 
down by coloring the water so that sunlight cannot penetrate, 
therefore algae cannot grow.  I have never used this product but I 
have heard it is safe for livestock.  Maybe one of our other readers 
knows something about Aquashade.


Mary Swindell




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I have a heat related question: since algae grows like crazy in some 
of my small ponds, would plain old bleach kill it to some effect or 
would it be detrimental to the sheep, chickens, or pigs that "can" 
drink it? ?They have other water and could drink the water going 
into this pond. If I blocked the outlet for a few hours and added a 
gallon of bleach, could any harm be done? ?The pond is about 150 sq feet.



Rick Krach
  Auburn, CA 95602


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Re: [Blackbelly] Algae bloom in ponds

2011-07-27 Thread Terry
The products that that are made to reduce light levels in ponds are not safe 
for people-- why would you want to have your animals drink it?  Barley straw 
'floats' reduce algal blooms in waterways, without introducing chemicals that 
may potentially harm the environment or the health of people or animals that 
enjoy the water. When I did my internship at an arboretum, It was made known to 
all employees and volunteers-- to NOT 'shaded' water from the lily pond in our 
eyes or accidently swallow any.  I have noticed in  several locations--  Good 
aeration helps reduce algae, as does a cover of duckweed!

 Terry W  Ne Ohio

--- On Wed, 7/27/11, Mary Swindell  wrote:


> Another idea for your pond:  Have you thought of using
> Aquashade?  It is available in farm stores, and I think
> it keeps the algae bloom down by coloring the water so that
> sunlight cannot penetrate, therefore algae cannot
> grow.  I have never used this product but I have heard
> it is safe for livestock.  Maybe one of our other
> readers knows something about Aquashade.
> 
> Mary Swindell
> 
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Re: [Blackbelly] Algae bloom in ponds

2011-07-28 Thread Mary Swindell

Terry,

I am glad to hear information about the Aquashade -- I did not know 
much about it and have never used it.  Personally, I do not like the 
idea of coloring the water anyway, as it looks fake and the possible 
toxicity is always a worry.  So that pretty much settles it for 
me:  I would not consider this as a solution to keeping algae off 
livestock ponds.


However, another solution which you touched upon is an aerating 
fountain.  That involves some up-front cost, but might be the most 
natural, non-invasive solution of all.  I know someone who has a 
floating aerating fountain connected to a dedicated windmill.  The 
windmill drives the fountain pump so that no other power source is 
needed.  This might be a good solution.


Another approach:  I have added several geese to my farm over the 
past 2 years, and I have no algae nor pond weed anymore.  I wasn't 
sure if the waterfowl addition would be good or bad for the pond, but 
so far it seems to have a fairly benevolent effect.  Of course, you 
have to put up with a little honking and squabbling of the birds from 
time to time, ha ha!


Mary Swindell



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The products that that are made to reduce light levels in ponds are 
not safe for people-- why would you want to have your animals drink 
it?  Barley straw 'floats' reduce algal blooms in waterways, without 
introducing chemicals that may potentially harm the environment or 
the health of people or animals that enjoy the water. When I did my 
internship at an arboretum, It was made known to all employees and 
volunteers-- to NOT 'shaded' water from the lily pond in our eyes or 
accidently swallow any.  I have noticed in  several 
locations--  Good aeration helps reduce algae, as does a cover of duckweed!


 Terry W  Ne Ohio


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Re: [Blackbelly] Algae bloom in ponds

2011-07-28 Thread Julian Hale
In addition to being a wormer, Basic H prevents algae from growing in
your tanks.  If you don't have fish, you could try Basic H to keep the
algae in check.

Julian

On 7/28/2011 3:56 PM, Mary Swindell wrote:
> Terry,
>
> I am glad to hear information about the Aquashade -- I did not know
> much about it and have never used it.  Personally, I do not like the
> idea of coloring the water anyway, as it looks fake and the possible
> toxicity is always a worry.  So that pretty much settles it for me:  I
> would not consider this as a solution to keeping algae off livestock
> ponds.
>
> However, another solution which you touched upon is an aerating
> fountain.  That involves some up-front cost, but might be the most
> natural, non-invasive solution of all.  I know someone who has a
> floating aerating fountain connected to a dedicated windmill.  The
> windmill drives the fountain pump so that no other power source is
> needed.  This might be a good solution.
>
> Another approach:  I have added several geese to my farm over the past
> 2 years, and I have no algae nor pond weed anymore.  I wasn't sure if
> the waterfowl addition would be good or bad for the pond, but so far
> it seems to have a fairly benevolent effect.  Of course, you have to
> put up with a little honking and squabbling of the birds from time to
> time, ha ha!
>
> Mary Swindell
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Re: [Blackbelly] Algae bloom in ponds

2011-07-28 Thread William Buchanan
Is Basic H2 the same as Basic H? I have been having trouble finding the reg 
Basic H.



Chris


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In addition to being a wormer, Basic H prevents algae from growing in
your tanks.  If you don't have fish, you could try Basic H to keep the
algae in check.

Julian

On 7/28/2011 3:56 PM, Mary Swindell wrote:

Terry,

I am glad to hear information about the Aquashade -- I did not know
much about it and have never used it.  Personally, I do not like the
idea of coloring the water anyway, as it looks fake and the possible
toxicity is always a worry.  So that pretty much settles it for me:  I
would not consider this as a solution to keeping algae off livestock
ponds.

However, another solution which you touched upon is an aerating
fountain.  That involves some up-front cost, but might be the most
natural, non-invasive solution of all.  I know someone who has a
floating aerating fountain connected to a dedicated windmill.  The
windmill drives the fountain pump so that no other power source is
needed.  This might be a good solution.

Another approach:  I have added several geese to my farm over the past
2 years, and I have no algae nor pond weed anymore.  I wasn't sure if
the waterfowl addition would be good or bad for the pond, but so far
it seems to have a fairly benevolent effect.  Of course, you have to
put up with a little honking and squabbling of the birds from time to
time, ha ha!

Mary Swindell

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Re: [Blackbelly] Algae bloom in ponds

2011-07-28 Thread Julian Hale
On 7/28/2011 6:38 PM, William Buchanan wrote:
> Is Basic H2 the same as Basic H? I have been having trouble finding
> the reg Basic H.
>
> Chris

Same stuff but double strength, so you use half as much.  Probably done
to save on shipping costs.

Julian
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Re: [Blackbelly] Algae bloom in ponds

2011-07-29 Thread Terry
I am interspersing my  reply on this one!!!

--- On Thu, 7/28/11, Mary Swindell  w

 
> However, another solution which you touched upon is an
> aerating fountain.  That involves some up-front cost,
> but might be the most natural, non-invasive solution of
> all.  I know someone who has a floating aerating
> fountain connected to a dedicated windmill.  The
> windmill drives the fountain pump so that no other power
> source is needed.  This might be a good solution.
> 

One of the locals here started raising fish. And yes, each pond has a windmill 
for aeration. Never a sign of algae issues, not even when they  drain to 
harvest the crop.


> Another approach:  I have added several geese to my
> farm over the past 2 years, and I have no algae nor pond
> weed anymore.  I wasn't sure if the waterfowl addition
> would be good or bad for the pond, but so far it seems to
> have a fairly benevolent effect.  Of course, you have
> to put up with a little honking and squabbling of the birds
> from time to time, ha ha!

 Geese and most ducks are great at reducing unwanted growth
Ducks are perhaps, a bit messier in some respects, but geese will also 'weed' 
gardens.If you can get the fowl to lay eggs in one location, you then have a 
second product to sell-- all the nutrition in those eggs from the water weeds 
and algae , lower cholesterol than factory farm eggs, etc...
 And I don't mind the honking--why live in the country if you can't appreciate 
all the smells and sounds?

 Terry W  Ohio 
> Mary Swindell
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