Re: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only
Julia Thompson wrote: J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 09:49 07-10-2002 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Now, there are times when everything else is *not* being equal, and I have to unload and load the dishwasher 3 or 4 times in a row before Dan does both tasks, and then he'll either crow about it or complain when I don't notice. :) Hey, us men would appreciate some recognition for our work too, you know! :-) I know, it's just a bit much to ask for extra appreciation for *one* iteration when three or four of *mine* are ignored. :) I'm hoping his workload drops off some later this month, and then it won't be so much of an issue. (He took his first 2-day weekend since at least August just now, to give you an idea of how it's been.) Seconded. I really get upset when I've spent a lot of time on certain tasks and it is met with a shrug, trampled underfoot or worse even... simply being taken for granted. I mean ironing for one is such a depressing task. You iron it, it gets used and crumpled in a corner. Infuriating, dismissiv. I find housework so under appreciated. It can take me all day to get something in order. Doing task after task, chore after chore and at the end of the day I have nothing obvious to show for it, worse at the end of the second day you can't even find a clue as to whether something has been done or not. And at the end of the month you have nothing showing for all your hard labour in your bankaccount, except all those drafts for the shopping that has been done. Having a toddler around doesn't really help to improve that feeling. ;o) That is probably why I still like doing some DIY. That is if I can find the time and some Tom-free space. At least you can see that something's been done, without it being turned into dust and rubble within a few hours. (That is if you didn't botch the job ;o) ) I guess it is just inherent to the job of housewife. On the bright side... I can go out, spent special time with Tom whenever I like. Or me and Tom can go and visit friends for a cup a coffee. We can go for a swim in the middle of the day. I can sit behind the puter and oops, look at the time! I really need to start doing something usefull, right away. :o) Sonja Housewife extraordinairy at your service. :o) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: My kitchen is a very static one. That means that every ittybitty little item has it's own spot. I get really very annoyed and grumpy when stuff is out of place. After a forced rearanging of the kitchen (in order to create more space or to fit in a new item) it takes me months to make the mental switch. After three years of a big reorganisation I managed to still open the wrong cupboard for plates or spices. Jeroen is sensible enough to not try and mess with the kitchen order too much when he cooks his Jeroen specials I like so much. :o). Ours was pretty static in the old house, and then one day I realized that one of the things we were doing was kind of stupid. So I decided we'd do it differently in the new house. Isn't it great when the men cook? :) Dan does great spaghetti (the sauce is *excellent*), grills fairly well, and has, in the past, fixed batches of taco soup. (Fixing a big batch of taco soup is something that either of us can do, provided the soup-maker is given a break from the toddler. Fixing a batch of soup with the toddler underfoot would be, well, interesting, possibly in the Chinese curse sense of the word.) Oh, and Dan fixes Swedish pancakes sometimes. He did it 3 or 4 weekends in September. He's been doing it a lot more since we moved -- I guess the new kitchen agrees with him. (He did a lot of the design of the kitchen, so that's not surprising, I guess.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only
At 19:18 06-10-2002 -0400, Jim Sharkey wrote: Guys, if our female significant others find out about this, we are in dp trouble... Sometimes I wonder about you, Jeroen. Your wife is the only SO on here that I know of, so aren't you the only one who get screwed by this? ;) Not really -- unless the CNN website can only be accessed by Brinellers. :-) Jeroen One World, With Liberty And Internet Access For All van Baardwijk __ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only
At 09:49 07-10-2002 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Now, there are times when everything else is *not* being equal, and I have to unload and load the dishwasher 3 or 4 times in a row before Dan does both tasks, and then he'll either crow about it or complain when I don't notice. :) Hey, us men would appreciate some recognition for our work too, you know! :-) Jeroen And now, back to studying van Baardwijk __ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only
Julia Thompson wrote: J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 09:49 07-10-2002 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Now, there are times when everything else is *not* being equal, and I have to unload and load the dishwasher 3 or 4 times in a row before Dan does both tasks, and then he'll either crow about it or complain when I don't notice. :) Hey, us men would appreciate some recognition for our work too, you know! :-) I know, it's just a bit much to ask for extra appreciation for *one* iteration when three or four of *mine* are ignored. :) What you clearly don't understand about men is that we expect a reaction about the same as we would normally reserve for a baby taking his first steps when we do housework without being asked. :) Jim Changed your e-mail? Keep your contacts! Use this free e-mail change of address service from Return Path. Register now! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only
Jim wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 09:49 07-10-2002 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Now, there are times when everything else is *not* being equal, and I have to unload and load the dishwasher 3 or 4 times in a row before Dan does both tasks, and then he'll either crow about it or complain when I don't notice. :) Hey, us men would appreciate some recognition for our work too, you know! :-) I know, it's just a bit much to ask for extra appreciation for *one* iteration when three or four of *mine* are ignored. :) What you clearly don't understand about men is that we expect a reaction about the same as we would normally reserve for a baby taking his first steps when we do housework without being asked. :) I used to, but I decided that I'd best shut my mouth and do my share. Which I do. In point of fact, I really enjoy the cooking, and cleaning up afterwards means I get to organize the kitchen *my* way. Adam C. Lipscomb Sensitive New Age Guy ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only
Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: Jim wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 09:49 07-10-2002 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Now, there are times when everything else is *not* being equal, and I have to unload and load the dishwasher 3 or 4 times in a row before Dan does both tasks, and then he'll either crow about it or complain when I don't notice. :) Hey, us men would appreciate some recognition for our work too, you know! :-) I know, it's just a bit much to ask for extra appreciation for *one* iteration when three or four of *mine* are ignored. :) What you clearly don't understand about men is that we expect a reaction about the same as we would normally reserve for a baby taking his first steps when we do housework without being asked. :) I used to, but I decided that I'd best shut my mouth and do my share. Which I do. In point of fact, I really enjoy the cooking, and cleaning up afterwards means I get to organize the kitchen *my* way. At the very least, when you cook and clean up on a regular basis, you know where things are. It's rather annoying to have someone ask for the 3rd time in 2 days where item X is (where item X is the same item in each case). :) We're past that in the settling-in, though. Julia still working out kitchen organization with Dan's help ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only
On 10/6/02 4:01 PM, J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ATTENTION: This message is for MALE Brinellers only. All FEMALE members should close this message IMMEDIATELY!!! Guys, if our female significant others find out about this, we are in dp trouble... GRIN On one of our delft tiles it reads: Ik ben thuis de baas, wat myn vrouw zegt zat gebeuren.* Matthew if your not Dutch... Maru *(my spelling may be off, but it's not that great in English either) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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J. van Baardwijk wrote: Housewife seeking appreciation quits housework. http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/Midwest/10/05/wife.strike.ap/index.html Good for her! If she cleans the house while her husband goes fishing, she should do something to call him on it. Normally cutting him off from sex would be the answer, but this might be more effective. :-) Guys, if our female significant others find out about this, we are in dp trouble... Sometimes I wonder about you, Jeroen. Your wife is the only SO on here that I know of, so aren't you the only one who get screwed by this? ;) Jim Changed your e-mail? Keep your contacts! Use this free e-mail change of address service from Return Path. Register now! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l