Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Second Try: LFI in the same interface for 2 PVC's, one of them a High Speed Link

2008-03-30 Thread Edward French
Good question, but I have an extra twist to add to it.

1. Should Shaping be applied to DLCI 201? (I would shay yes)
2. Should Shaping be applied to DLCI 202 to prevent BR2 from taking all of the 
bandwidth or maybe Voice-adaptive shaping?

This is all assuming that the HQ is just a t-1.

Ed

- Original Message 
From: "Sanchez Galarza, Gustavo - (Col)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 9:21:40 PM
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Second Try: LFI in the same interface for 2 PVC's, 
one of them a High Speed Link

  

Hi:
 
I would appreciate some comments.

 
I have the following scenario:
 
In HQ I have a physical serial interface with 2 PVCs: DLCI 201 to BR1 with CIR 
384kbps and DLCI 202 to BR2 with CIR 1544kbps.
 
I assume I need to configure frame-relay fragment for DLCI 201 with fragment 
size equal to 480 but my questions are:
 
Do I need to create 2 map-class, one for each DLCI with appropriate values of 
cir, mincir, bc, be? Do I need to configure frame-relay fragment for DLCI 202 
although is a High Speed link (>768kbps) in order to not affect traffic on the 
same interface of DLCI 201?
 
  map-class frame-relay br1! applied to dlci 201
 frame-relay fragment 480
 frame-relay cir 364800
 frame-relay mincir 364800
 frame-relay bc 3648
 frame-relay be 0
no frame-relay adaptive shaping becn
service-policy output llq
 
  map-class frame-relay br2! applied to dlci 202
 frame-relay fragment 480 <--in order to does 
not affect the trafic of the dcli 201 on the same interface
 frame-relay cir 1466800
 frame-relay mincir 1466800
 frame-relay bc 14668
 frame-relay be 0
no frame-relay adaptive shaping becn
service-policy output llq2
 
Acording to this tech-note any other PVCs that share the same physical 
interface need to configure the fragmentation to the size used by the voice PVC
 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/tech/tk652/tk698/technologies_configuration_example09186a0080094af9.shtml
 
But in this one the configuration shows to diferent sizes for fragments in the 
same interface.
 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/tech/tk1077/technologies_configuration_example09186a0080094192.shtml
 
 
Thanks for your help.
 
Gustavo Sánchez






[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Second Try: LFI in the same interface for 2 PVC's, one of them a High Speed Link

2008-03-30 Thread Sanchez Galarza, Gustavo - (Col)
Hi:
 
I would appreciate some comments.

 

I have the following scenario:

 

In HQ I have a physical serial interface with 2 PVCs: DLCI 201 to BR1 with CIR 
384kbps and DLCI 202 to BR2 with CIR 1544kbps.

 

I assume I need to configure frame-relay fragment for DLCI 201 with fragment 
size equal to 480 but my questions are:

 

1.  Do I need to create 2 map-class, one for each DLCI with appropriate 
values of cir, mincir, bc, be? 
2.  Do I need to configure frame-relay fragment for DLCI 202 although is a 
High Speed link (>768kbps) in order to not affect traffic on the same interface 
of DLCI 201?

 

  map-class frame-relay br1! applied to dlci 201

 frame-relay fragment 480

 frame-relay cir 364800

 frame-relay mincir 364800

 frame-relay bc 3648

 frame-relay be 0

no frame-relay adaptive shaping becn

service-policy output llq

 

  map-class frame-relay br2! applied to dlci 202

 frame-relay fragment 480 <--in order to does 
not affect the trafic of the dcli 201 on the same interface

 frame-relay cir 1466800

 frame-relay mincir 1466800

 frame-relay bc 14668

 frame-relay be 0

no frame-relay adaptive shaping becn

service-policy output llq2

 

Acording to this tech-note any other PVCs that share the same physical 
interface need to configure the fragmentation to the size used by the voice PVC

 

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/tech/tk652/tk698/technologies_configuration_example09186a0080094af9.shtml

 

But in this one the configuration shows to diferent sizes for fragments in the 
same interface.

 

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/tech/tk1077/technologies_configuration_example09186a0080094192.shtml

 

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Gustavo Sánchez



Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab questions about RTP

2008-03-30 Thread Matthew Cody
I believe you're allowed to bring in food, but NOT consume it at the
workstation.  You are able to bring drinks to your desk, and the food could
be kept in the cooler.  I don't think it would be a big deal at all.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 4:27 PM
To: Chad Stachowicz
Cc: CCIE Maillist; Edward French; Jacob Owen
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab questions about RTP

I brought a big bottle of Coke in with me when I took the R&S lab back
in 2003 (in RTP)... the proctor didn't say anything...



Jonathan

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Chad Stachowicz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ed,
>
>   I think it would be worth trying, the guys in San Jose would likely
allow
> it.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chad
>
>
>
>
> On 3/30/08, Jacob Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Edward,
> > Honestly, not sure since I have never tried.  The only
> > thing I have walked into the lab with was my wallet
> > and my cell phone.  They take your cell phone and put
> > it on a cabinet to grab when you leave.  Maybe someone
> > else on this mailing list could help where I cannot.
> >
> > --- Edward French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > I am assuming that I could not bring some beef
> > > sticks or jerky in a clear ziplock
> > >
> > > - Original Message 
> > > From: Jacob Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: Edward French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; CCIE
> > > Maillist 
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 4:06:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab questions about
> > > RTP
> > >
> > > Edward,
> > > I probably know more about RTP than most people on
> > > this mailing list, my next voice attempt on 4/21
> > > will
> > > be #9 for me in RTP (this is for all IE's not just
> > > Voice :) ).
> > >
> > > I believe you get 2 blank pieces of paper which you
> > > will have to return at the end of the day, i am sure
> > > you can request more if you need more.
> > >
> > > PC's seem to be plenty fast all the times I have
> > > been
> > > there, I think for voice the server response is more
> > > of an issue than PC would be.  I believe the screen
> > > resolution is at least 1280X1024 and if not that
> > > pretty close.  Only 1 monitor is provided.
> > >
> > > Their are 2-3 very, very large coolers in the break
> > > room about 150 feet from the lab that is stocked
> > > with
> > > just about every kind of soda (diet and regular) you
> > > could imagine, the bathrooms are about 1/2 to the
> > > break room on the right.  To leave the lab you need
> > > to
> > > grab a visitor badge hanging on the door and if
> > > someone else is already out you can still leave and
> > > just ring the doorbell to get back into the lab.
> > >
> > > The lunch is provided to you and you have to take it
> > > in a small conference room off of the main lab room.
> > >
> > > As for your low carb diet I am not sure, they really
> > > only offer 1 choice and it often contains meat and
> > > cheese (actually always I think) which I know some
> > > people won't eat for personal or religous reasons.
> > > I
> > > am sure they will have something, and if you would
> > > like you could write [EMAIL PROTECTED] with ?'s and see
> > > if you can get a response.  I did see something once
> > > about if you had special requests you could ask, but
> > > I
> > > am not sure where that is at.  LIke I said, I could
> > > walk that room blindfolded so let me know if you or
> > > anyone else on this forum has any other questions.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Edward French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > As I have said before I am making my first attempt
> > > > on April 18th. So I have a couple of questions
> > > about
> > > > the lab environment.
> > > >
> > > > Is there adequate space to notes? (I know on Cisco
> > > > provided sheets with Cisco proveded pens)
> > > >
> > > > Are the PC's reasonably fast?
> > > > Do the monitors have at least 1280 X 1024
> > > > resolution?
> > > > Do they have dual monitors?
> > > >
> > > > Is there access to beverages?
> > > >
> > > > Are the bathrooms close?
> > > >
> > > > Do you need money for lunch?
> > > > Is lunch cafeteria style? or a boxed lunch or
> > > what?
> > > > I am on a low carb diet, will I be able to get
> > > meat
> > > > and cheese?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Ed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jacob Owen
> > > CCIE #14063 (R&S, Service Provider), CCVP, CCDP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>


> > > OMG, Sweet deal for Yahoo! users/friends:Get A Month
> > > of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t
> > > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text2.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Jacob Owen
> > CCIE #14063 (R&S, Service Provider), CCVP, CCDP
> >
> >
> >
>


> > Looking for last minute shopp

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco UCM and CME dialing

2008-03-30 Thread Paul and Bobs
Thansk Mark

Is there any way of testing the dialplan on the gatekeeper like you can on a
h323 gateway with the show dial-peer voice summary command.

Paul

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Mark Snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> When you say the "CME is sending through its dialplan" do you mean it is
> sending its E164 numbers to be registered? If that is whtat you mean then
> the answer is that there is no way to get the UCM to send its E164 numbers
> to be registered. It simply doesn't offer them to the GK since a UCM cluster
> could have upwards of 100,000 DNs. Instead you must find another way to
> route a call over from CME to UCM using means such as a Tech Prefix, or
> using the 'alias static' command.
>
> HTH
>
> Mark SnowSr Technical Instructor
> IPexpert, Inc.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 30, 2008, at 6:05 PM, "Paul and Bobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> Morning Guys
>
> Still strugling a bit on the gatekeeper.
>
> I have CCM with h225 trunk to Gatekeeper and its registered. I also have
> CME with H323 interface registered to Gatekeeper. The CME is sending through
> it dialplan but the CCM is not. Does it have to to enable the call to be
> routed between the CME and CCM. I dont have any dialpeers on the CME. Here
> is my gatekeeper config.
>
> interface Loopback0
>  ip address 10.61.127.3 255.255.255.255
>  h323-gateway voip interface
>  h323-gateway voip id VGK ipaddr 10.61.127.3 1719
>  h323-gateway voip h323-id IPIPGW
>  h323-gateway voip tech-prefix 1#
>  h323-gateway voip bind srcaddr 10.61.127.3
>
> gatekeeper
>  zone local HQ-RTR iptlab.local 10.61.127.3
>  zone local VGK iptlab.local
>  zone local CCM-GK iptlab.local
>  zone local BR2-RTR iplab.local
>  zone remote PSTN-GK iptlab.local 10.61.127.3 1719
>  zone prefix PSTN-GK 011*
>  zone prefix CCM-GK 1212220*
>  zone prefix HQ-RTR 212*
>  bandwidth interzone zone HQ-RTR 144
>  bandwidth remote 144
>
>
>
> HQ-RTR#sho gatekeeper end
> GATEKEEPER ENDPOINT REGISTRATION
> 
> CallSignalAddr  Port  RASSignalAddr   Port  Zone Name Type
> Flags
> --- - --- - - 
> -
> 10.61.111.4 61717 10.61.111.4 61684 CCM-GKVOIP-GW
> H323-ID: h225-gk-g711_1
> Voice Capacity Max.=  Avail.=  Current.= 0
> 10.61.111.4 61721 10.61.111.4 61684 CCM-GKVOIP-GW
> H323-ID: h225-gk-g729_1
> Voice Capacity Max.=  Avail.=  Current.= 0
> 10.61.127.2 1720  10.61.127.2 63236 BR2-RTR   VOIP-GW
> E164-ID: 3001
> E164-ID: 3002
> E164-ID: 3003
> E164-ID: 3010
> E164-ID: 3011
> E164-ID: 3012
> E164-ID: 3313203001
> E164-ID: 3313203002
> E164-ID: 3313203003
> E164-ID: 3313203010
> E164-ID: 3313203011
> E164-ID: 3313203012
> H323-ID: BR2-RTR
> Voice Capacity Max.=  Avail.=  Current.= 0
> 10.61.127.3 1720  10.61.127.3 54943 VGK   H323-GW
> H323-ID: IPIPGW
> Voice Capacity Max.=  Avail.=  Current.= 0
> Total number of active registrations = 4
>
> Paul
>
>
>


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] definition of E.164

2008-03-30 Thread Mark Snow
As far as the router is concerned (and thus the exam) yes both are  
considered E164 numbers.


Also, not that it doesn't have great (and normally correct)  
information, I don't know that I would rely on wikipedia for your CCIE  
studies. A much better place would be to go to the source - go to the  
ITUs web site and see what they have to say side they standardized  
such entity as an "E164" number :)


Mark Snow
Sr Technical Instructor
IPexpert, Inc.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 29, 2008, at 8:00 AM, FrogOnDSCP46EF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



Hi guys,

DN-7001
DN-4087001

Can both be considered as a E.164 numbers?

according to url below there are 3 kind of E.164 numbers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.164


--
Smile, you'll save someone else's day!
Frog


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE_Voice Digest, Vol 25, Issue 150

2008-03-30 Thread Mark Snow
When you say the "CME is sending through its dialplan" do you mean it  
is sending its E164 numbers to be registered? If that is whtat you  
mean then the answer is that there is no way to get the UCM to send  
its E164 numbers to be registered. It simply doesn't offer them to the  
GK since a UCM cluster could have upwards of 100,000 DNs. Instead you  
must find another way to route a call over from CME to UCM using means  
such as a Tech Prefix, or using the 'alias static' command.


HTH

Mark Snow
Sr Technical Instructor
IPexpert, Inc.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2008, at 6:05 PM, "Paul and Bobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



Morning Guys

Still strugling a bit on the gatekeeper.

I have CCM with h225 trunk to Gatekeeper and its registered. I also  
have CME with H323 interface registered to Gatekeeper. The CME is  
sending through it dialplan but the CCM is not. Does it have to to  
enable the call to be routed between the CME and CCM. I dont have  
any dialpeers on the CME. Here is my gatekeeper config.


interface Loopback0
 ip address 10.61.127.3 255.255.255.255
 h323-gateway voip interface
 h323-gateway voip id VGK ipaddr 10.61.127.3 1719
 h323-gateway voip h323-id IPIPGW
 h323-gateway voip tech-prefix 1#
 h323-gateway voip bind srcaddr 10.61.127.3

gatekeeper
 zone local HQ-RTR iptlab.local 10.61.127.3
 zone local VGK iptlab.local
 zone local CCM-GK iptlab.local
 zone local BR2-RTR iplab.local
 zone remote PSTN-GK iptlab.local 10.61.127.3 1719
 zone prefix PSTN-GK 011*
 zone prefix CCM-GK 1212220*
 zone prefix HQ-RTR 212*
 bandwidth interzone zone HQ-RTR 144
 bandwidth remote 144



HQ-RTR#sho gatekeeper end
GATEKEEPER ENDPOINT REGISTRATION

CallSignalAddr  Port  RASSignalAddr   Port  Zone Name  
TypeFlags
--- - --- - -  
-

10.61.111.4 61717 10.61.111.4 61684 CCM-GKVOIP-GW
H323-ID: h225-gk-g711_1
Voice Capacity Max.=  Avail.=  Current.= 0
10.61.111.4 61721 10.61.111.4 61684 CCM-GKVOIP-GW
H323-ID: h225-gk-g729_1
Voice Capacity Max.=  Avail.=  Current.= 0
10.61.127.2 1720  10.61.127.2 63236 BR2-RTR   VOIP-GW
E164-ID: 3001
E164-ID: 3002
E164-ID: 3003
E164-ID: 3010
E164-ID: 3011
E164-ID: 3012
E164-ID: 3313203001
E164-ID: 3313203002
E164-ID: 3313203003
E164-ID: 3313203010
E164-ID: 3313203011
E164-ID: 3313203012
H323-ID: BR2-RTR
Voice Capacity Max.=  Avail.=  Current.= 0
10.61.127.3 1720  10.61.127.3 54943 VGK   H323-GW
H323-ID: IPIPGW
Voice Capacity Max.=  Avail.=  Current.= 0
Total number of active registrations = 4

Paul




Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE_Voice Digest, Vol 25, Issue 150

2008-03-30 Thread Paul and Bobs
Morning Guys

Still strugling a bit on the gatekeeper.

I have CCM with h225 trunk to Gatekeeper and its registered. I also have CME
with H323 interface registered to Gatekeeper. The CME is sending through it
dialplan but the CCM is not. Does it have to to enable the call to be routed
between the CME and CCM. I dont have any dialpeers on the CME. Here is my
gatekeeper config.

interface Loopback0
 ip address 10.61.127.3 255.255.255.255
 h323-gateway voip interface
 h323-gateway voip id VGK ipaddr 10.61.127.3 1719
 h323-gateway voip h323-id IPIPGW
 h323-gateway voip tech-prefix 1#
 h323-gateway voip bind srcaddr 10.61.127.3

gatekeeper
 zone local HQ-RTR iptlab.local 10.61.127.3
 zone local VGK iptlab.local
 zone local CCM-GK iptlab.local
 zone local BR2-RTR iplab.local
 zone remote PSTN-GK iptlab.local 10.61.127.3 1719
 zone prefix PSTN-GK 011*
 zone prefix CCM-GK 1212220*
 zone prefix HQ-RTR 212*
 bandwidth interzone zone HQ-RTR 144
 bandwidth remote 144



HQ-RTR#sho gatekeeper end
GATEKEEPER ENDPOINT REGISTRATION

CallSignalAddr  Port  RASSignalAddr   Port  Zone Name TypeFlags
--- - --- - - -
10.61.111.4 61717 10.61.111.4 61684 CCM-GKVOIP-GW
H323-ID: h225-gk-g711_1
Voice Capacity Max.=  Avail.=  Current.= 0
10.61.111.4 61721 10.61.111.4 61684 CCM-GKVOIP-GW
H323-ID: h225-gk-g729_1
Voice Capacity Max.=  Avail.=  Current.= 0
10.61.127.2 1720  10.61.127.2 63236 BR2-RTR   VOIP-GW
E164-ID: 3001
E164-ID: 3002
E164-ID: 3003
E164-ID: 3010
E164-ID: 3011
E164-ID: 3012
E164-ID: 3313203001
E164-ID: 3313203002
E164-ID: 3313203003
E164-ID: 3313203010
E164-ID: 3313203011
E164-ID: 3313203012
H323-ID: BR2-RTR
Voice Capacity Max.=  Avail.=  Current.= 0
10.61.127.3 1720  10.61.127.3 54943 VGK   H323-GW
H323-ID: IPIPGW
Voice Capacity Max.=  Avail.=  Current.= 0
Total number of active registrations = 4

Paul


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QOS marking on the router

2008-03-30 Thread Jonathan Charles
Service Policies only queue and mark on the outbound, on the inbound
they can only mark... (there are no input queues on a router...)



Jonathan

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 4:44 PM, jason sung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks JD.
>
> I think you are correct. I keep forgetting this basic logic. I was jotting
> down small tips to read during the flight.
>
>
> CUE works the same.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Devildoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > If you mark the control traffic comming from the LAN (i.e. Cat6500
> switch), then you'll need to apply the policy on the FastEthernet trunk in
> the inbound direction on the router.  When you apply a policy to an
> interface, it is from the perspective of the router that the policy is being
> serviced.  In this case, the router sees the traffics comming into it, so it
> must be applied on the inbound.
> >
> > JD
> >
> >
> >
> > 
>  Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:50:12 -0500
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QOS marking on the router
> >
> >
> >
> > If I am trying to mark my control traffic on the router. Do I apply the
> policymap  to inbound or oubound side of the fastEthernet.
> >
> > I think outbound but I have heard people say inbound.
> > 
>  Watch "Cause Effect," a show about real people making a real difference.
> Learn more.
>
>


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab questions about RTP

2008-03-30 Thread Jonathan Charles
I brought a big bottle of Coke in with me when I took the R&S lab back
in 2003 (in RTP)... the proctor didn't say anything...



Jonathan

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Chad Stachowicz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ed,
>
>   I think it would be worth trying, the guys in San Jose would likely allow
> it.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chad
>
>
>
>
> On 3/30/08, Jacob Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Edward,
> > Honestly, not sure since I have never tried.  The only
> > thing I have walked into the lab with was my wallet
> > and my cell phone.  They take your cell phone and put
> > it on a cabinet to grab when you leave.  Maybe someone
> > else on this mailing list could help where I cannot.
> >
> > --- Edward French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > I am assuming that I could not bring some beef
> > > sticks or jerky in a clear ziplock
> > >
> > > - Original Message 
> > > From: Jacob Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: Edward French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; CCIE
> > > Maillist 
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 4:06:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab questions about
> > > RTP
> > >
> > > Edward,
> > > I probably know more about RTP than most people on
> > > this mailing list, my next voice attempt on 4/21
> > > will
> > > be #9 for me in RTP (this is for all IE's not just
> > > Voice :) ).
> > >
> > > I believe you get 2 blank pieces of paper which you
> > > will have to return at the end of the day, i am sure
> > > you can request more if you need more.
> > >
> > > PC's seem to be plenty fast all the times I have
> > > been
> > > there, I think for voice the server response is more
> > > of an issue than PC would be.  I believe the screen
> > > resolution is at least 1280X1024 and if not that
> > > pretty close.  Only 1 monitor is provided.
> > >
> > > Their are 2-3 very, very large coolers in the break
> > > room about 150 feet from the lab that is stocked
> > > with
> > > just about every kind of soda (diet and regular) you
> > > could imagine, the bathrooms are about 1/2 to the
> > > break room on the right.  To leave the lab you need
> > > to
> > > grab a visitor badge hanging on the door and if
> > > someone else is already out you can still leave and
> > > just ring the doorbell to get back into the lab.
> > >
> > > The lunch is provided to you and you have to take it
> > > in a small conference room off of the main lab room.
> > >
> > > As for your low carb diet I am not sure, they really
> > > only offer 1 choice and it often contains meat and
> > > cheese (actually always I think) which I know some
> > > people won't eat for personal or religous reasons.
> > > I
> > > am sure they will have something, and if you would
> > > like you could write [EMAIL PROTECTED] with ?'s and see
> > > if you can get a response.  I did see something once
> > > about if you had special requests you could ask, but
> > > I
> > > am not sure where that is at.  LIke I said, I could
> > > walk that room blindfolded so let me know if you or
> > > anyone else on this forum has any other questions.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Edward French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > As I have said before I am making my first attempt
> > > > on April 18th. So I have a couple of questions
> > > about
> > > > the lab environment.
> > > >
> > > > Is there adequate space to notes? (I know on Cisco
> > > > provided sheets with Cisco proveded pens)
> > > >
> > > > Are the PC's reasonably fast?
> > > > Do the monitors have at least 1280 X 1024
> > > > resolution?
> > > > Do they have dual monitors?
> > > >
> > > > Is there access to beverages?
> > > >
> > > > Are the bathrooms close?
> > > >
> > > > Do you need money for lunch?
> > > > Is lunch cafeteria style? or a boxed lunch or
> > > what?
> > > > I am on a low carb diet, will I be able to get
> > > meat
> > > > and cheese?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Ed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jacob Owen
> > > CCIE #14063 (R&S, Service Provider), CCVP, CCDP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> > > OMG, Sweet deal for Yahoo! users/friends:Get A Month
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Jacob Owen
> > CCIE #14063 (R&S, Service Provider), CCVP, CCDP
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab questions about RTP

2008-03-30 Thread Chad Stachowicz
Ed,

  I think it would be worth trying, the guys in San Jose would likely allow
it.


Cheers,

Chad


On 3/30/08, Jacob Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Edward,
> Honestly, not sure since I have never tried.  The only
> thing I have walked into the lab with was my wallet
> and my cell phone.  They take your cell phone and put
> it on a cabinet to grab when you leave.  Maybe someone
> else on this mailing list could help where I cannot.
>
> --- Edward French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > I am assuming that I could not bring some beef
> > sticks or jerky in a clear ziplock
> >
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Jacob Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Edward French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; CCIE
> > Maillist 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 4:06:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab questions about
> > RTP
> >
> > Edward,
> > I probably know more about RTP than most people on
> > this mailing list, my next voice attempt on 4/21
> > will
> > be #9 for me in RTP (this is for all IE's not just
> > Voice :) ).
> >
> > I believe you get 2 blank pieces of paper which you
> > will have to return at the end of the day, i am sure
> > you can request more if you need more.
> >
> > PC's seem to be plenty fast all the times I have
> > been
> > there, I think for voice the server response is more
> > of an issue than PC would be.  I believe the screen
> > resolution is at least 1280X1024 and if not that
> > pretty close.  Only 1 monitor is provided.
> >
> > Their are 2-3 very, very large coolers in the break
> > room about 150 feet from the lab that is stocked
> > with
> > just about every kind of soda (diet and regular) you
> > could imagine, the bathrooms are about 1/2 to the
> > break room on the right.  To leave the lab you need
> > to
> > grab a visitor badge hanging on the door and if
> > someone else is already out you can still leave and
> > just ring the doorbell to get back into the lab.
> >
> > The lunch is provided to you and you have to take it
> > in a small conference room off of the main lab room.
> >
> > As for your low carb diet I am not sure, they really
> > only offer 1 choice and it often contains meat and
> > cheese (actually always I think) which I know some
> > people won't eat for personal or religous reasons.
> > I
> > am sure they will have something, and if you would
> > like you could write [EMAIL PROTECTED] with ?'s and see
> > if you can get a response.  I did see something once
> > about if you had special requests you could ask, but
> > I
> > am not sure where that is at.  LIke I said, I could
> > walk that room blindfolded so let me know if you or
> > anyone else on this forum has any other questions.
> >
> >
> > --- Edward French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > As I have said before I am making my first attempt
> > > on April 18th. So I have a couple of questions
> > about
> > > the lab environment.
> > >
> > > Is there adequate space to notes? (I know on Cisco
> > > provided sheets with Cisco proveded pens)
> > >
> > > Are the PC's reasonably fast?
> > > Do the monitors have at least 1280 X 1024
> > > resolution?
> > > Do they have dual monitors?
> > >
> > > Is there access to beverages?
> > >
> > > Are the bathrooms close?
> > >
> > > Do you need money for lunch?
> > > Is lunch cafeteria style? or a boxed lunch or
> > what?
> > > I am on a low carb diet, will I be able to get
> > meat
> > > and cheese?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Jacob Owen
> > CCIE #14063 (R&S, Service Provider), CCVP, CCDP
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
> > OMG, Sweet deal for Yahoo! users/friends:Get A Month
> > of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t
> > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text2.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Jacob Owen
> CCIE #14063 (R&S, Service Provider), CCVP, CCDP
>
>
>
> 
> Looking for last minute shopping deals?
> Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab questions about RTP

2008-03-30 Thread Jacob Owen
Edward,
Honestly, not sure since I have never tried.  The only
thing I have walked into the lab with was my wallet
and my cell phone.  They take your cell phone and put
it on a cabinet to grab when you leave.  Maybe someone
else on this mailing list could help where I cannot.  

--- Edward French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks,
> 
> I am assuming that I could not bring some beef
> sticks or jerky in a clear ziplock
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Jacob Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Edward French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; CCIE
> Maillist 
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 4:06:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab questions about
> RTP
> 
> Edward,
> I probably know more about RTP than most people on
> this mailing list, my next voice attempt on 4/21
> will
> be #9 for me in RTP (this is for all IE's not just
> Voice :) ).
> 
> I believe you get 2 blank pieces of paper which you
> will have to return at the end of the day, i am sure
> you can request more if you need more.
> 
> PC's seem to be plenty fast all the times I have
> been
> there, I think for voice the server response is more
> of an issue than PC would be.  I believe the screen
> resolution is at least 1280X1024 and if not that
> pretty close.  Only 1 monitor is provided.
> 
> Their are 2-3 very, very large coolers in the break
> room about 150 feet from the lab that is stocked
> with
> just about every kind of soda (diet and regular) you
> could imagine, the bathrooms are about 1/2 to the
> break room on the right.  To leave the lab you need
> to
> grab a visitor badge hanging on the door and if
> someone else is already out you can still leave and
> just ring the doorbell to get back into the lab.  
> 
> The lunch is provided to you and you have to take it
> in a small conference room off of the main lab room.
> 
> As for your low carb diet I am not sure, they really
> only offer 1 choice and it often contains meat and
> cheese (actually always I think) which I know some
> people won't eat for personal or religous reasons. 
> I
> am sure they will have something, and if you would
> like you could write [EMAIL PROTECTED] with ?'s and see
> if you can get a response.  I did see something once
> about if you had special requests you could ask, but
> I
> am not sure where that is at.  LIke I said, I could
> walk that room blindfolded so let me know if you or
> anyone else on this forum has any other questions.
> 
> 
> --- Edward French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > As I have said before I am making my first attempt
> > on April 18th. So I have a couple of questions
> about
> > the lab environment.
> > 
> > Is there adequate space to notes? (I know on Cisco
> > provided sheets with Cisco proveded pens)
> > 
> > Are the PC's reasonably fast? 
> > Do the monitors have at least 1280 X 1024
> > resolution? 
> > Do they have dual monitors?
> > 
> > Is there access to beverages?
> > 
> > Are the bathrooms close?
> > 
> > Do you need money for lunch?
> > Is lunch cafeteria style? or a boxed lunch or
> what?
> > I am on a low carb diet, will I be able to get
> meat
> > and cheese?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Jacob Owen
> CCIE #14063 (R&S, Service Provider), CCVP, CCDP
> 
> 
>  
>

> OMG, Sweet deal for Yahoo! users/friends:Get A Month
> of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t 
> http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text2.com
> 
> 
> 
> 


Jacob Owen
CCIE #14063 (R&S, Service Provider), CCVP, CCDP


  

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab questions about RTP

2008-03-30 Thread Edward French
Thanks,

I am assuming that I could not bring some beef sticks or jerky in a clear 
ziplock

- Original Message 
From: Jacob Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Edward French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; CCIE Maillist 

Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 4:06:03 PM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab questions about RTP

Edward,
I probably know more about RTP than most people on
this mailing list, my next voice attempt on 4/21 will
be #9 for me in RTP (this is for all IE's not just
Voice :) ).

I believe you get 2 blank pieces of paper which you
will have to return at the end of the day, i am sure
you can request more if you need more.

PC's seem to be plenty fast all the times I have been
there, I think for voice the server response is more
of an issue than PC would be.  I believe the screen
resolution is at least 1280X1024 and if not that
pretty close.  Only 1 monitor is provided.

Their are 2-3 very, very large coolers in the break
room about 150 feet from the lab that is stocked with
just about every kind of soda (diet and regular) you
could imagine, the bathrooms are about 1/2 to the
break room on the right.  To leave the lab you need to
grab a visitor badge hanging on the door and if
someone else is already out you can still leave and
just ring the doorbell to get back into the lab.  

The lunch is provided to you and you have to take it
in a small conference room off of the main lab room. 
As for your low carb diet I am not sure, they really
only offer 1 choice and it often contains meat and
cheese (actually always I think) which I know some
people won't eat for personal or religous reasons.  I
am sure they will have something, and if you would
like you could write [EMAIL PROTECTED] with ?'s and see
if you can get a response.  I did see something once
about if you had special requests you could ask, but I
am not sure where that is at.  LIke I said, I could
walk that room blindfolded so let me know if you or
anyone else on this forum has any other questions.


--- Edward French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As I have said before I am making my first attempt
> on April 18th. So I have a couple of questions about
> the lab environment.
> 
> Is there adequate space to notes? (I know on Cisco
> provided sheets with Cisco proveded pens)
> 
> Are the PC's reasonably fast? 
> Do the monitors have at least 1280 X 1024
> resolution? 
> Do they have dual monitors?
> 
> Is there access to beverages?
> 
> Are the bathrooms close?
> 
> Do you need money for lunch?
> Is lunch cafeteria style? or a boxed lunch or what?
> I am on a low carb diet, will I be able to get meat
> and cheese?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 


Jacob Owen
CCIE #14063 (R&S, Service Provider), CCVP, CCDP


  

OMG, Sweet deal for Yahoo! users/friends:Get A Month of Blockbuster Total 
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab questions about RTP

2008-03-30 Thread Jacob Owen
Edward,
I probably know more about RTP than most people on
this mailing list, my next voice attempt on 4/21 will
be #9 for me in RTP (this is for all IE's not just
Voice :) ).

I believe you get 2 blank pieces of paper which you
will have to return at the end of the day, i am sure
you can request more if you need more.

PC's seem to be plenty fast all the times I have been
there, I think for voice the server response is more
of an issue than PC would be.  I believe the screen
resolution is at least 1280X1024 and if not that
pretty close.  Only 1 monitor is provided.

Their are 2-3 very, very large coolers in the break
room about 150 feet from the lab that is stocked with
just about every kind of soda (diet and regular) you
could imagine, the bathrooms are about 1/2 to the
break room on the right.  To leave the lab you need to
grab a visitor badge hanging on the door and if
someone else is already out you can still leave and
just ring the doorbell to get back into the lab.  

The lunch is provided to you and you have to take it
in a small conference room off of the main lab room. 
As for your low carb diet I am not sure, they really
only offer 1 choice and it often contains meat and
cheese (actually always I think) which I know some
people won't eat for personal or religous reasons.  I
am sure they will have something, and if you would
like you could write [EMAIL PROTECTED] with ?'s and see
if you can get a response.  I did see something once
about if you had special requests you could ask, but I
am not sure where that is at.  LIke I said, I could
walk that room blindfolded so let me know if you or
anyone else on this forum has any other questions.


--- Edward French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As I have said before I am making my first attempt
> on April 18th. So I have a couple of questions about
> the lab environment.
> 
> Is there adequate space to notes? (I know on Cisco
> provided sheets with Cisco proveded pens)
> 
> Are the PC's reasonably fast? 
> Do the monitors have at least 1280 X 1024
> resolution? 
> Do they have dual monitors?
> 
> Is there access to beverages?
> 
> Are the bathrooms close?
> 
> Do you need money for lunch?
> Is lunch cafeteria style? or a boxed lunch or what?
> I am on a low carb diet, will I be able to get meat
> and cheese?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 


Jacob Owen
CCIE #14063 (R&S, Service Provider), CCVP, CCDP


  

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab questions about RTP

2008-03-30 Thread Edward French
As I have said before I am making my first attempt on April 18th. So I have a 
couple of questions about the lab environment.

Is there adequate space to notes? (I know on Cisco provided sheets with Cisco 
proveded pens)

Are the PC's reasonably fast? 
Do the monitors have at least 1280 X 1024 resolution? 
Do they have dual monitors?

Is there access to beverages?

Are the bathrooms close?

Do you need money for lunch?
Is lunch cafeteria style? or a boxed lunch or what?
I am on a low carb diet, will I be able to get meat and cheese?


Thanks

Ed




Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Switches

2008-03-30 Thread Jonathan Charles
My concern is that if they have already migrated the R&S lab to 3560s,
then it seems likely that the voice pods will migrate soon as well.

Granted, they have to give us some notice on the lab equipment list a
few weeks/months prior to the change... but... you never know.

My concern here is a conflict in interface configurations...

In the Audio Bootcamp, Mark Snow says to manually configure dot1q
trunks on the interfaces... However, the Cisco 3550 documentation says
there is no need to (and in my experience, nailing in the trunks
breaks the voice vlan);

I suspect that a lot of the configurations where I see manual trunks
configured is from when the 3524XL was the predominant switch and it
did not have a voice vlan and had to be configured as a trunk for the
phones to work.

On the 3560, manually configuring a trunk breaks the voice vlan and is
specifically not supported:

"Voice VLAN is only supported on access ports and not on trunk ports,
even though the configuration is allowed."

This has been an argument going on in the voice world (on Puck) for
quite some time...

Personally, I like the confguration of the ports as access with a
voice vlan, but I am wondering if I am missing something



Jonathan

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Jacob Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jonathan,
>  I am pretty sure they are still using 3550's and I
>  haven't heard news of them changing which I believe
>  means it would still be 6+ months away.
>
>
>
>  --- Jonathan Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  > The lab hardware guide says they are still using
>  > 3550s, however, the
>  > other labs (R&S) say they are using 3550s and/or
>  > 3560s...
>  >
>  > Which ones?
>  >
>  > I only ask because the interface configuration is
>  > slightly different
>  > and the QoS settings are decidedly different (WRR
>  > vs. SRR)
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Jonathan
>  >
>
>
>  Jacob Owen
>  CCIE #14063 (R&S, Service Provider), CCVP, CCDP
>
>
>
>   
> 
>  Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page.
>  http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>


[OSL | CCIE_Voice] CS3 or AF31

2008-03-30 Thread Jonathan Charles
Which one?

I only ask, because I am seeing a lot of conflicting documentation on
Cisco's website.

One says that all IP Phones mark as AF31, but CCM, etc will mark as CS3...

However, I saw a note in the QoS SRND that all markings will migrate
to CS3 (when?)

It probably doesn't much matter as I am doing a match-any on my
class-maps, but it seems that Cisco hasn't quite made up their minds
yet...



Jonathan


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Switches

2008-03-30 Thread Jacob Owen
Jonathan,
I am pretty sure they are still using 3550's and I
haven't heard news of them changing which I believe
means it would still be 6+ months away.  

--- Jonathan Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The lab hardware guide says they are still using
> 3550s, however, the
> other labs (R&S) say they are using 3550s and/or
> 3560s...
> 
> Which ones?
> 
> I only ask because the interface configuration is
> slightly different
> and the QoS settings are decidedly different (WRR
> vs. SRR)
> 
> 
> 
> Jonathan
> 


Jacob Owen
CCIE #14063 (R&S, Service Provider), CCVP, CCDP


  

Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page. 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs


[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Switches

2008-03-30 Thread Jonathan Charles
The lab hardware guide says they are still using 3550s, however, the
other labs (R&S) say they are using 3550s and/or 3560s...

Which ones?

I only ask because the interface configuration is slightly different
and the QoS settings are decidedly different (WRR vs. SRR)



Jonathan