Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Please Express Your Opinion
The "op" ran its course and had its effect. Now it is in the background. Might be dredged back up during the current polarization cycle. Peace, K On Jul 14, 2008, at 10:18 PM, muckblit wrote: > Still a bit confusing, sorry. She saw M&M at the bank, in the parking > lot, but she said that SUNOCO is on that same parking lot in the same > shopping center, but SUNOCO is one mile away, neither bank or SUNOCO > is in any shopping center at all, and the two businesses are on > opposite sides of the highway. So much for placing Muhamad at the > scene. Your opinion so far? > > --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "muckblit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I would like to hear your opinion on one idea. >> >> John Muhamad of Muhamad and Malvo, DC-area snipers during Iraqwar >> voting, was only tried for one murder, that of Dean Meyers. >> >> Muhamad only represented himself for part of that trial. While he was >> representing himself, a witness perjured herself to place him at the >> scene of the crime. Muhamad did not attack her testimony. >> >> What do you think of that? >> >> The witness was a woman who worked at First Virginia Bank. I put the >> mapquest map in cia-drugs photos, showing that the bank is a mile >> from >> the crime scene. Why play lawyer yet pass up the opportunity to crush >> a softball and send it over the outfield fence as Matlock or Perry > Mason? >> >> By crush a softball, I mean it was this easy. Matlock: "You say your >> bank is in the same shopping center as SUNOCO. What is the name of >> the >> shopping center?" >> >> "The bank is not actually in a shopping center" >> >> "What is the name of the shopping center SUNOCO is in then?" >> >> "SUNOCO is not actually in a shopping center either". >> >> "You said they were in the same shopping center, and then you said >> that neither is actually in any shopping center. Are they in the same >> parking lot?" >> >> "No" >> >> "Do you realize that your bank is exactly one mile from SUNOCO?" >> >> "If you say so" >> >> "Your bank and SUNOCO are on opposite sides of six lanes of >> highway, a >> grass median strip, two sidewalks, and two parking lots. Neither is >> in >> a shopping center. Did you tell the prosecution before this trial >> that >> you saw the defendant in the same shopping center where you worked?" >> >> "No, they told me to say that" >> >> "The prosecution suborned you to perjure yourself by claiming to have >> seen the defendant at the scene of the crime?" >> >> "Exactly, yes." >> >> "Were your two co-workers lying here today when they called you a >> liar >> about events the day of the murder?" >> >> "I guess not" >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/44045 >> > > > > > > Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ > > Please let us stay on topic and be civil. > > OM > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
[cia-drugs] Re: Please Express Your Opinion
Still a bit confusing, sorry. She saw M&M at the bank, in the parking lot, but she said that SUNOCO is on that same parking lot in the same shopping center, but SUNOCO is one mile away, neither bank or SUNOCO is in any shopping center at all, and the two businesses are on opposite sides of the highway. So much for placing Muhamad at the scene. Your opinion so far? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "muckblit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would like to hear your opinion on one idea. > > John Muhamad of Muhamad and Malvo, DC-area snipers during Iraqwar > voting, was only tried for one murder, that of Dean Meyers. > > Muhamad only represented himself for part of that trial. While he was > representing himself, a witness perjured herself to place him at the > scene of the crime. Muhamad did not attack her testimony. > > What do you think of that? > > The witness was a woman who worked at First Virginia Bank. I put the > mapquest map in cia-drugs photos, showing that the bank is a mile from > the crime scene. Why play lawyer yet pass up the opportunity to crush > a softball and send it over the outfield fence as Matlock or Perry Mason? > > By crush a softball, I mean it was this easy. Matlock: "You say your > bank is in the same shopping center as SUNOCO. What is the name of the > shopping center?" > > "The bank is not actually in a shopping center" > > "What is the name of the shopping center SUNOCO is in then?" > > "SUNOCO is not actually in a shopping center either". > > "You said they were in the same shopping center, and then you said > that neither is actually in any shopping center. Are they in the same > parking lot?" > > "No" > > "Do you realize that your bank is exactly one mile from SUNOCO?" > > "If you say so" > > "Your bank and SUNOCO are on opposite sides of six lanes of highway, a > grass median strip, two sidewalks, and two parking lots. Neither is in > a shopping center. Did you tell the prosecution before this trial that > you saw the defendant in the same shopping center where you worked?" > > "No, they told me to say that" > > "The prosecution suborned you to perjure yourself by claiming to have > seen the defendant at the scene of the crime?" > > "Exactly, yes." > > "Were your two co-workers lying here today when they called you a liar > about events the day of the murder?" > > "I guess not" > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/44045 >
[cia-drugs] Please Express Your Opinion
I would like to hear your opinion on one idea. John Muhamad of Muhamad and Malvo, DC-area snipers during Iraqwar voting, was only tried for one murder, that of Dean Meyers. Muhamad only represented himself for part of that trial. While he was representing himself, a witness perjured herself to place him at the scene of the crime. Muhamad did not attack her testimony. What do you think of that? The witness was a woman who worked at First Virginia Bank. I put the mapquest map in cia-drugs photos, showing that the bank is a mile from the crime scene. Why play lawyer yet pass up the opportunity to crush a softball and send it over the outfield fence as Matlock or Perry Mason? By crush a softball, I mean it was this easy. Matlock: "You say your bank is in the same shopping center as SUNOCO. What is the name of the shopping center?" "The bank is not actually in a shopping center" "What is the name of the shopping center SUNOCO is in then?" "SUNOCO is not actually in a shopping center either". "You said they were in the same shopping center, and then you said that neither is actually in any shopping center. Are they in the same parking lot?" "No" "Do you realize that your bank is exactly one mile from SUNOCO?" "If you say so" "Your bank and SUNOCO are on opposite sides of six lanes of highway, a grass median strip, two sidewalks, and two parking lots. Neither is in a shopping center. Did you tell the prosecution before this trial that you saw the defendant in the same shopping center where you worked?" "No, they told me to say that" "The prosecution suborned you to perjure yourself by claiming to have seen the defendant at the scene of the crime?" "Exactly, yes." "Were your two co-workers lying here today when they called you a liar about events the day of the murder?" "I guess not" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/44045
[cia-drugs] Obamas Foreign Policy Advisor Picks Tell Us
Obama's Foreign Policy Advisor Picks Tell Us ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not to mention Zbigniew Brzezinski, author of THE GLOBAL CHESSBOARD and the plan to defeat the UUSR by creating Osama Bin Laden and the Mujahadeen freedom Fighters under Reagan. This low level war waged via Afghanistan drained the Soviets. ZB takes credit for that. ZB wants to attack China and Russia. This is what we have in store in an Obama Admin. Barack Obama's Foreign Policy Advisor Picks Tell Us All We Need To Know About Him Michael Jackman sst911.org July 11, 2008 http://www.truthnews.us/?p=2298 chlorinated Tris: Hazardous flame retardant found in household objects: EPA obfuscation as usual [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=771917 regulatory flim-flam: Environment Canada places partial ban on flame retardant - deca PBDE [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080712.RETARDANT12/TPStory/National Blissfully unaware of bisphenol A: Reasons why regulators should live up to their responsibilities [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.foeeurope.org/press/2008/Jul10_Regulators_shirking_responsibility_on_BisphenolA.html "Arc of Crisis" | Divide & Conquer [EMAIL PROTECTED] two British SAS soldiers were caught dressed as Arabs, with explosives and massive arsenal of weapons. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9451 Brasscheck TV: War with Iran http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/365.html NAFTA Highway has no crossings? [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sierraclub.ca/national/programs/health-environment/water/water-threats-nafta.pdf Native American March on DC to Protest Global Warming & Environmental Destruction http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_13524.cfm MTV holocaust commercials [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://cryptogon.com/?p=2177 NEWS :A General Strike Has Been Scheduled for 9/11/08 -- Please Read Details [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.opednews.com/articles/General-Strike-Called-for--by-dharmasyd-080709-197.html Appeal to American NSA Officers: Please Join The American People [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/Appeal-to-American-NSA-Off-by-Ralph-Lopez-080709-915.html Law School Dean Calls Conference For Bush War Cimes Prosecution [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.legitgov.org/#breaking_news FISA 'compromise' completes transformation of US into full police state IF THIS ISN'T TREASON THEN WHAT IS http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/printer_3482.shtml Media Ignores Ron Paul March For Liberty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.infowars.net/articles/july2008/140708Rally.htm ACLU: Terrorist Watch List His 1 Million Names http://www.aclu.org/watchlist http://blacklistednews.com/news-496-0-8-8--.html How does Bill Clinton KNOW 911 was an Inside Job (?) [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE TOP FORTY REASONS TO DOUBT THE OFFICIAL STORY OF SEPTEMBER 11th, 2001 http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646 AWESOME ARTICLE: The Arrogance Of Power [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=127905
[cia-drugs] How does Bill Clinton KNOW 911 was an Inside Job (?)
THE TOP FORTY REASONS TO DOUBT THE OFFICIAL STORY OF SEPTEMBER 11th, 2001 http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646 I saw a video of ex-President Bill Clinton speaking before a crowd and someone asked him a question about 911 being an Inside Job and Clinton screamed back "HOW DARE YOU ! HOW DARE YOU!!! That told me that Bill Clinton KNOWS that 911 was an Inside Job---and was trying to intimidate the questioner into silence. I guess the next question to be asked could have been "Mr Clinton, Please tell us what you know about the 100 persons who during your administration had crossed you, and then either committed suicide or mysteriously died unexpectedly" The answer would have been "HOW DARE YOU ! HOW DARE YOU!!! I'm glad that Clinton showed the world that he knows that 911 was an Inside Job. What a fool!
[cia-drugs] Fwd: Good News, Maybe
Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: July 13, 2008 6:52:37 PM PDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Good News, Maybe http://www.legitgov.org/#breaking_news 'We've come to this ignoble moment.' 'We have become like Serbia.' 12 Jul 2008 'I never thought I would say this, but I think it might, in fact, be time for the United States to be held internationally to a tribunal. I never thought in my lifetime I would say that, that we have become like Serbia, where an international tribunal has to come to force us to apply the rule of law... 'So we've come to this ignoble moment, where we could be forced into a tribunal and forced to face the rule of law that we've refused to apply to ourselves.' --Constitutional Law expert Jonathan Turley, on MSNBC's Friday 'Countdown,' discussing accountability behind US war crimes at Guantanamo. Law School Dean Calls Conference to Plan Bush War Crimes Prosecution 17 Jun 2008 The dean of Massachusetts School of Law at Andover is planning a September conference to map out war crimes prosecutions, and the targets are President Bush and other administration officials. The dean, Lawrence Velvel, says in a statement that "plans will be laid and necessary organizational structures set up, to pursue the guilty as long as necessary and, if n eed be, to the ends of the Earth." Other possible defendants, he said, include federal judges and John Yoo, the former Justice Department official who wrote one of the so- called torture memos. "We must insist on appropriate punishments," he continued, "including, if guilt is found, the hangings visited upon top German and Japanese war criminals in the 1940s." Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com!
[cia-drugs] Fwd: Government for Sale, Cheap: Bush Admin Official Caught Soliciting Bribes
Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: July 13, 2008 7:18:19 PM PDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Government for Sale, Cheap: Bush Admin Official Caught Soliciting Bribes Bush Homeland Security Aide Caught On Tape Selling High-Level Access for Cash for Bush Library http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/12/bush-library-donation-scandal/ The Sunday Times reports Stephen Payne, a Bush pioneer and a political appointee to the Homeland Security Advisory Council, was caught on tape offering access to key members of the Bush administration inner circle in exchange for “six-figure donations to the private library being set up to commemorate Bush’s presidency.” In an undercover video, Payne is seen promising to arrange a meeting for an exiled leader of Krygystan with Dick Cheney or Condoleezza Rice. (Not President Bush because “he doesn’t meet with a lot of former Presidents these days,” Payne says. “I don’t think he meets with hardly anyone.”) All it will take for him to arrange this high- level meeting, says Payne, is “a couple hundred thousand dollars, or something like that”: PAYNE: The exact budget I will come up with. But it will be somewhere between $600,000 and $750,000, with about a third of it going directly to the Bush library. […] 200, 250, something like that. That’s gonna be a show of “we’re interested, we’re your friends, we’re still friends.” Watch the startling video here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/times_online_tv/?vxSiteId=d8fa78dc-d7ad-4d5a-8886-e420d4bc4200&vxChannel=Times%20Online%20News&vxClipId=1152_timesonline0938&vxBitrate=300 . The Times reports, “The revelation confirms long-held suspicions that favours are being offered in return for donations to the libraries which outgoing presidents set up to house their archives and safeguard their political legacies.” Bush loyalists previously said they had “identified wealthy heiresses, Arab nations and captains of industry as potential ‘mega’ donors” to the Bush library. The Department of Homeland Security website reports that the “Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC) provides advice and recommendations to the Secretary on matters related to homeland security.” Payne has been a member of the council since August 2007. In Jan. 2008, Payne — an early supporter of Rudy Giuliani — said he would throw his support to John McCain if Giuliani dropped out. A personal friend of Bush, Payne has helped clear brush on the Crawford Ranch with the President (see the picture on the right). UpdatePayne is President of Worldwide Strategic Partners. His bio on a cached version of the consulting firm's site says Payne served as "George W. Bush's personal travel aide during his father’s 1988 Presidential campaign." It adds, "Currently, Mr. Payne assists the White House as a Senior Advance Representative traveling internationally in advance of and with President Bush and Vice President Cheney." Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com!
[cia-drugs] Arc of Crisis Divide & Conquer
"Arc of Crisis" | Divide & Conquer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9451 Global Research, July 10, 2008 Establishing an "Arc of Crisis" Many would be skeptical that the Anglo-Americans would be behind terrorist acts in Iraq, such as with the British in Basra, when two British SAS soldiers were caught dressed as Arabs, with explosives and massive arsenal of weapons.[1] Why would the British be complicit in orchestrating terror in the very city in which they are to provide security? What would be the purpose behind this? That question leads us to an even more important question to ask, the question of why Iraq was occupied; what is the purpose of the war on Iraq? If the answer is, as we are often told with our daily dose of CNN, SkyNews and the statements of public officials, to spread democracy and freedom and rid the world of tyranny and terror, then it doesn't make sense that the British or Americans would orchestrate terror. However, if the answer to the question of why the Anglo-American invasion of Iraq occurred was not to spread democracy and freedom, but to spread fear and chaos, plunge the country into civil war, balkanize Iraq into several countries, and create an "arc of crisis" across the Middle East, enveloping neighboring countries, notably Iran, then terror is a very efficient and effective means to an end. An Imperial Strategy read more here: www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9451 ## Subject: Swear Jar / "Commit terror, to incite terror... in order to react to terror" Swear Jar http://swearjar.ddbchicago.net/swearjar.html --- State-Sponsored Terror: British and American Black Ops in Iraq By Andrew G. Marshall | Global Research | June 25, 2008 Shining Light on the "Black World" www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9447 # Are they really oil wars? [Oil See You In Hell!] + http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GovernmentShadow/message/30366 Has Bush Given Israel A Blank Check For War On Iran? http://www.vdare.com/buchanan/080710_iran.htm
[cia-drugs] Dubaiya, my lord, dubai-yaaaa: Cheney set for life
Bushes make a Dubya, one-bid treasure under Dubya, Halliburton hq to Dubai-ya. http://www.bootsnall.com/articles/05-07/madinat-jumeirah-venice-of-the-gulf-dubai-united-arab-emirates.html New Venice, what a great idea. The old Venice moved to London. Vegas was a prototype of the new Dubai thing, resorts and all, canals in the desert. All it should take is a few trillion dollars, and the rubes will pay that in extortion to the neo Ghengis, al-CIA-duh, just like the old Ghengis who robbed the gold for Venice in exchange for silver from Germany and Carthage. http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/photos/browse/8cda?b=1 Bushes make a Dubya, one-bid treasure under Big(deserter twice unelected dictator called "president") Dub Where is our Spencer Tracy, kind-hearted old pedo priest to lead us through this time of greed? See Seattle Intelligencer coverage of FBI pedo porn made with CIA-pimped children, neo Lindbergh FBI kidnapping policy, there's our Spencer Tracy for remake of movie It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World. That's a foursquare "Mad" world. Milton Friedman's military keynesianism, FBI as pedo kidnappers, that's two mads, we need two more mads on the same scale. There are lots of little mads, like CIA Drugs, Russell Opium Trust (ROT) owning the drug prisons, how about Palestinian pogrom apartheid holocaust run by Jews who know better? Fairly mad. How about three mads, G.O.D., or guns oil drugs, plus fractional reserving on top? Four mads. What are your four mads?
[cia-drugs] Planted Evidence
George W. Bush Dubya Bush, a plant, vegetation. Palm trees, Bushes, make a Dubya. Greased palm trees. One-bid treasure under Big Dubya in a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad or Milton Friedmanic World of military keynesianism. Trees make a W. Bushes make a Dubya. Worship the white man from across the water, the *#::#$? Tory whose license plate is JFK-6343. You must have his tire marks on your forehead to buy or sell. Bushes make a Dubya: http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/photos/browse/8cda Halliburton hq moved to Dubai-a. Folks with tire marks on their forehead, sitting around singing "Dubai-a, Lord, Dubai-a", sucking up trickledown under Big Dub.
[cia-drugs] JFK Rifle Over Iraqwar Vote - Part 1
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/photos/browse/8cda http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/37755 --> http://69.28.73.17/elohim.html http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/33137 Fuqra, see Bernard Henri Levy's book Who Killed Daniel Pearl for links between al Fuqra, CIA, WTC bomb, and more recent al-CIA-duh facets of 911 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/msearch?query=dc+sniper&submit=S\ earch&charset=UTF-8 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/msearch?query=manassas&submit=Se\ arch&charset=UTF-8 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/msearch?query=sunoco&submit=Sear\ ch&charset=UTF-8 I don't see the new DC Sniper thread I started in June 2008. John Muhamad frequented a west coast bar in the mornings, in Oregon or Washington state, that was known to have been visited by two or three other serial killers. That could be an Atta cropduster, James Earl Ray white mustang, crumb trail element that would come in handy if anybody noticed what I am about to talk about noticing. In his trial, Muhamad acted as his own lawyer for part of the trial, just part. No real lawyer would have let the First Virginia Bank employee get away with perjury like the following. Prosecutors suborned perjury from her to fake placing Malvo and Muhamad and their blue Caprice car at the scene of the crime. First Virginia Bank is exactly one mile from the SUNOCO station(see map in photos here at CIA-drugs yahoogroups "JFK Rifle Over Iraqwar Vote"), yet the sworn witness testified that that gas station is in the same parking lot and shopping center with First Virginia Bank. Neither is in any shopping center, neither shares a parking lot with any other building, the two buildings are one mile apart, the two buildings are on opposite sides of a six lane road with a median strip and two sidewalks between them. John Muhamad had to act as his own lawyer in order not to make any objection to that perjury, in which the bank employee placed him at the scene, so to speak, by saying she saw him and Malvo and their car in the parking lot a mile from SUNOCO, then lying and saying SUNOCO and the bank were in the same lot and shopping center, i.e. both "at the scene of the crime". Why would Muhamad want that perjury to stand, placing him at the scene of the crime? Presto chango, spin away, Malvo frequented a particular bar because he wanted to be identified with two or three serial killers who also had gone there years before. He wanted to be convicted of being a serial killer. On the other hand, Muhamad's consistent ability to get released from jail even in another country does not mark him as a mentally unstable wannabe so much as a government informant of the first kind. After Muhamad and Malvo and the blue Caprice were placed at the scene which was a mile away from the scene, half an hour before the crime, a police officer places Muhamad and Malvo at Bob Evans restaurant across the street from SUNOCO, but half an hour after the crime. Bob Evans restaurant's parking lot offers a perfect vantage point for an amateur sniper to shoot Dean Myers in the head from a hundred yards away, but there are several problems with that scenario. The government fails to call a witness who saw the blue caprice pull out of another restaurant parking lot, Pargo's(now City Grille in Manassas), after the witness heard a noise like a shot, saw his mother's co-worker Dean Myers fall to the ground, and knew that the blue Caprice only had one obscure option to escape from otherwise dead-end Balls Ford road. Apparently what really happened was that the suspects circled around behind SUNOCO, crossed Sudley Road Route 234, came back to Bob Evans on the opposite side of the road from SUNOCO in time to be documented there by a police officer. Why does the prosecution lead us to believe that the shot was made from the opposite direction, blowing out the wrong side of Dean Myers' head like JFK in the Zapruder film? Why did the forensics specialist testify that none of the bullet fragments left the skull of Myers? Did police who searched Sudley road between SUNOCO and Bob Evans not find any fragments there to indicate the shot came from Pargo's or a Red Roof Inn balcony? The head exploded like JFK, to the wrong side, the entrance side if the shot came from Bob Evans, but no fragments escaped the exploding head to mark the shot as coming from the opposite side? And now I resort to CSI, to TV. On TV, they never identify fragmented bullets. "The bullet came apart so we can't match it to the barrel of the gun". And on TV they catch criminals and solve crimes, also unlike real life. Osama is not even wanted by the FBI. Muhamad should get the death penalty for allowing the First Virginia Bank employee to perjure herself, and prosecutors be disbarred for suborning perjury from her and the forensics specialist, but as far as we know, the blue caprice was behind SUNOCO at Pargo's(now City Grille) when the shot was fired, either from the car tru
