Re: [CinCVS] Free media positioning in track?

2006-07-23 Thread Bernhard Frühmesser

Nicolas wrote:

On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 09:48:12PM +0200, Bernhard Fr?hmesser wrote:


Hello,

I am looking for info how if it is possible to do a free media 
positioning in the main cinelerra window.


I have two video tracks, video track 1 starts at the beginning, and i 
would like to use track 2 to positioning the videos free now they 
start at the beginning of the track just as videotrack 1. Of course i 
can copy the video i would like to insert in track 2 and paste it at the 
right position, but later when the video is in position i would like to 
move it around.


So far i haven??t found any info about that, is it possible or not and 
when yes how can i do this? Can anyone tell me where i find info about that?


Thanks for infos

BF.



Hello,


Hello,


I don't quite understand your problem... What do you want to do? Are you
trying to move the video on track 2? Is moving the video on track 2 the
problem?


I would like to know if it is possible to move around a media in a track 
just like in Final Cut?



There're several ways to move a media on a track. First, you select a
part of the track using the [ and ] buttons to define the start and end
point.
Then you can paste silence using Shift+Space. That moves to the right
the medias which are on the right side of the in and out points.
You can also cut the part you selected, just by pressing the x key.


Selecting an area and using in ([) and out (]) points and pressing 
Shift+Space does a past silence that´s right, but when i then try to 
insert a media it is still positioned at the beginning of the track and 
not right (next to) the outpoint.



Well, perhaps you already know that. Please give us more information
about what you're trying to do, and we'll be able to help you.


It works somehow if i goto the last position of the first track and arm 
the second video track and insert from the sources menu, but then i 
can´t move around the video for example in Drag and drop mode (arrow 
mode) the media stays at it´s position where it has been inserted 
before. I can move it to the beginning of the track but not right.
And if i go to the end of the media and the mousepointer becomes an 
arrow pointing right i can extend the media but not repositioning it.


Thanks so far,

Bernhard F.


Nicolas, Paris.




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Re: [CinCVS] Free media positioning in track?

2006-07-23 Thread Bernhard Frühmesser

Stefan de Konink wrote:

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, Nicolas wrote:



Well, perhaps you already know that. Please give us more information
about what you're trying to do, and we'll be able to help you.



Is it possible to move a track around in the 'arrow' mode instead with the
mouse moving the track with the keyboard frame by frame.


In the Drag and drop mode i am only able to move around the media 
between several video tracks, but not for example to the right.


Thanks,
BF.


I want to lipsync individual recordings. But it is kinda hard doing it
with a mouse, play to check, and move it a bit around again.


Stefan



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Re: [CinCVS] Free media positioning in track?

2006-07-22 Thread Nicolas
On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 06:18:01PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, Stefan de Konink wrote:
  Is it possible to move a track around in the 'arrow' mode instead with the
  mouse moving the track with the keyboard frame by frame.
 
  I want to lipsync individual recordings. But it is kinda hard doing it
  with a mouse, play to check, and move it a bit around again.
 
 What I'd really like to see would be keystrokes for move this edit a
 frame earlier and ...a frame later that would work during playback,
 from the compositor.  Then I could modify timing for lip sync, and play
 and replay to see that it works, all from the keyboard without switching
 windows.

Matthew,

Did you try to :
- select 1 frame using the [ and ] buttons, before the media you want to
  move
- go to the compositor, and you can use the x key to remove 1 frame
  several times.
  
It works while the video is played. Unfortunately, it's not possible to
paste 1 frame (is that a bug?) using the v key. The paste silence
Shift-space do not works either. So, you can move the media on the
left, but not on the right. You have to go back to the main screen to do
that.

Nicolas, Paris.

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[CinCVS] Free media positioning in track?

2006-07-21 Thread Bernhard Frühmesser

Hello,

I am looking for info how if it is possible to do a free media 
positioning in the main cinelerra window.


I have two video tracks, video track 1 starts at the beginning, and i 
would like to use track 2 to positioning the videos free now they 
start at the beginning of the track just as videotrack 1. Of course i 
can copy the video i would like to insert in track 2 and paste it at the 
right position, but later when the video is in position i would like to 
move it around.


So far i haven´t found any info about that, is it possible or not and 
when yes how can i do this? Can anyone tell me where i find info about that?


Thanks for infos

BF.


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Re: [CinCVS] Free media positioning in track?

2006-07-21 Thread Nicolas
On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 09:48:12PM +0200, Bernhard Fr?hmesser wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am looking for info how if it is possible to do a free media 
 positioning in the main cinelerra window.
 
 I have two video tracks, video track 1 starts at the beginning, and i 
 would like to use track 2 to positioning the videos free now they 
 start at the beginning of the track just as videotrack 1. Of course i 
 can copy the video i would like to insert in track 2 and paste it at the 
 right position, but later when the video is in position i would like to 
 move it around.
 
 So far i haven??t found any info about that, is it possible or not and 
 when yes how can i do this? Can anyone tell me where i find info about that?
 
 Thanks for infos
 
 BF.

Hello,

I don't quite understand your problem... What do you want to do? Are you
trying to move the video on track 2? Is moving the video on track 2 the
problem?

There're several ways to move a media on a track. First, you select a
part of the track using the [ and ] buttons to define the start and end
point.
Then you can paste silence using Shift+Space. That moves to the right
the medias which are on the right side of the in and out points.
You can also cut the part you selected, just by pressing the x key.

Well, perhaps you already know that. Please give us more information
about what you're trying to do, and we'll be able to help you.

Nicolas, Paris.

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Re: [CinCVS] Free media positioning in track?

2006-07-21 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, Nicolas wrote:

 Well, perhaps you already know that. Please give us more information
 about what you're trying to do, and we'll be able to help you.

Is it possible to move a track around in the 'arrow' mode instead with the
mouse moving the track with the keyboard frame by frame.

I want to lipsync individual recordings. But it is kinda hard doing it
with a mouse, play to check, and move it a bit around again.


Stefan


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Re: [CinCVS] Free media positioning in track?

2006-07-21 Thread Nicolas
On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 11:43:00PM +0200, Stefan de Konink wrote:
 On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, Nicolas wrote:
 
  Well, perhaps you already know that. Please give us more information
  about what you're trying to do, and we'll be able to help you.
 
 Is it possible to move a track around in the 'arrow' mode instead with the
 mouse moving the track with the keyboard frame by frame.
 
 I want to lipsync individual recordings. But it is kinda hard doing it
 with a mouse, play to check, and move it a bit around again.
 
 
 Stefan

Yes, as I said, there're several ways to move a media around. One of
them being, as Stefan de Konink said :
- to move the mouse over the beginning of the media you want to move
- put the mouse cursor a little bit on the left. That way, the arrow
  points to the right
- click and move the media located on the right

I've seen a Cinelerra demo made by Andraz, it's available on the
cvs.cinelerra.org website. I think he said it's possible to use
Cinelerra with the keyboard. I admit I still use the mouse, even if I
type with my 10 fingers (400 chars per minute ;-)) and love vim. I'll
read the manual again when I'll get some spare time. There're a section
about keyboard shortcuts. ;-)

Nicolas, Paris.

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Re: [CinCVS] Free media positioning in track?

2006-07-21 Thread mskala
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, Stefan de Konink wrote:
 Is it possible to move a track around in the 'arrow' mode instead with the
 mouse moving the track with the keyboard frame by frame.

 I want to lipsync individual recordings. But it is kinda hard doing it
 with a mouse, play to check, and move it a bit around again.

What I'd really like to see would be keystrokes for move this edit a
frame earlier and ...a frame later that would work during playback,
from the compositor.  Then I could modify timing for lip sync, and play
and replay to see that it works, all from the keyboard without switching
windows.
-- 
Matthew Skala
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Embrace and defend.
http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/

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Re: [CinCVS] Free media positioning in track?

2006-07-21 Thread Pierre Marc Dumuid

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, Stefan de Konink wrote:
  

Is it possible to move a track around in the 'arrow' mode instead with the
mouse moving the track with the keyboard frame by frame.

I want to lipsync individual recordings. But it is kinda hard doing it
with a mouse, play to check, and move it a bit around again.



What I'd really like to see would be keystrokes for move this edit a
frame earlier and ...a frame later that would work during playback,
from the compositor.  Then I could modify timing for lip sync, and play
and replay to see that it works, all from the keyboard without switching
windows.
  

Try pressing the keys on the Num Pad and see what they do (1  4 especially)
Also, doc/cinelerra.html actually contains some shortcut keys, as well 
as when you hover your mouse over some of the buttons around the place, 
(see that bar just below the menu bar) you'll see what keys correspond 
to which button.




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Re: [CinCVS] Free media positioning in track?

2006-07-21 Thread mskala
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006, Pierre Marc Dumuid wrote:
  What I'd really like to see would be keystrokes for move this edit a
  frame earlier and ...a frame later that would work during playback,

 Try pressing the keys on the Num Pad and see what they do (1  4 especially)

I'm talking about changing the edit, not moving the playback head.
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