RE: where exactly is the equipment replicated ? [7:26243]

2001-11-15 Thread Chuck Larrieu

memory is hazy. in the original radio broadcast, there is much to do made
about "the answer". those seeking learn that the answer to "life, the
universe, and everything" is 42 and they realize it makes no sense. they are
told that the answer makes perfect sense if they ask the right question.
they commission the mice to run another computer study to derive the
question. the program is terminated prematurely when the Volgons (?) destroy
Earth 5 minutes too soon, which was the impetus that began Ford Prefect's
adventures, and his discoveries of the true purpose of the earth and all it
contains.

My recollection is that we never do learn the question, and therefore are
left with an answer that is totally meaningless, even if it is "the answer".

I've always enjoyed the delicious irony of hearing people throw out "42" as
the answer, wondering if said speaker understands that without knowing the
proper question, the "answer" indeed is meaningless.

in my student days there was an apocryphal story making the rounds about the
philosophy professor whose final consisted of one question: "why?"

the only A was given to the student who answered "because!"

if only router configurations were so open ended

Chuck

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42 is the answer to the life, universe and everything
(Hitchhikers Guide  BBC TV, Radio and book)
but what is the question   ;-)

Rah




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Re: where exactly is the equipment replicated ? [7:26243]

2001-11-15 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

My point, (other than a feeble attempt at humor related to the Guide), was 
that we couldn't decode a paragraph that he grabbed from the Internet 
anymore than we can answer what does 42 mean.

I don't expect everyone to research every question. We wouldn't exist as a 
group if that were possible. But I do expect people to apply some logic. If 
you want help, you have to give us enough information to help you. In this 
case he could have told us where he got the paragraph, what was the 
previous paragraph, what's the title of the page, etc.

Maybe he wasn't a native English speaker and thought that we could help 
because we didn't have to translate. That's a fair excuse. But I didn't 
want to say that because some people would be sensitive about such 
assumptions, (plus his English was fine.)

Well, back to your regularly scheduled program. I apologize for wasting 
bandwidth on meta-topics, but this is called proactive bandwidth 
management. Maybe if we can advise people on how best to use this group, 
then less bandwidth will be wasted in the future. Or maybe not...

Cheers. Don't yell at me! Thanks. ;-)

Priscilla


At 11:13 PM 11/14/01, Wojtek Zlobicki wrote:
>Lets try that again , being a little trigger happy  :)
>
> > And I have a question for you. What does 42 mean? Thanks.
>
>Hitchhikers Guide memories being a little fuzzy , isn't 42 the answer :P


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RE: where exactly is the equipment replicated ? [7:26243]

2001-11-15 Thread Rah Hussain

42 is the answer to the life, universe and everything
(Hitchhikers Guide  BBC TV, Radio and book)
but what is the question   ;-)

Rah




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RE: where exactly is the equipment replicated ? [7:26243]

2001-11-14 Thread Chuck Larrieu

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Lets try that again , being a little trigger happy  :)

> And I have a question for you. What does 42 mean? Thanks.

Hitchhikers Guide memories being a little fuzzy , isn't 42 the answer :P
-

CL: ah, but what is the question? Wasn't that the ultimate point of the
Hitch Hiker's Guide?




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Re: where exactly is the equipment replicated ? [7:26243]

2001-11-14 Thread Wojtek Zlobicki

Lets try that again , being a little trigger happy  :)

> And I have a question for you. What does 42 mean? Thanks.

Hitchhikers Guide memories being a little fuzzy , isn't 42 the answer :P




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Re: where exactly is the equipment replicated ? [7:26243]

2001-11-14 Thread Wojtek Zlobicki

""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> At 12:15 PM 11/14/01, John Green wrote:
> >-
> >and what would this mean ??
> >where exactly is the equipment replicated ? is it one
> >at customer
> >access point and the other at the carrier provider's
> >end? is this what
> >is duplication and what is the context for
> >"Multiple networks" ?
>
> You'll have to tell us the context. Where did you get the wording below
and
> what is it in reference too? It sounds like a bunch of "hand waving" that
> might make more sense with some context, but might not. Very few companies
> would implement multiple, parallel networks to meet availability goals,
but
> some might.
>
> The sentence at the end doesn't fit. Did it come from somewhere else? Or
> maybe it fits if you read this as advertising material from a service
> provider. Are they trying to justify why a customer should use them for
> redundancy or something? It's impossible to tell.
>
> And I have a question for you. What does 42 mean? Thanks.
>
> Priscilla
>
> >
> >"Multiple networks, however, are extremely expensive
> >to build and
> >maintain. Capital expenditure is high because
> >equipment is replicated,
> >and operation and maintenance costs are high because
> >of the
> >duplication of personnel and practices for each
> >separate network. At
> >the same time, competitive pressures in the
> >communication industry are
> >forcing providers to shift their business models from
> >simply providing
> >bandwidth to delivering revenue-generating,
> >value-added services"
> >
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Re: where exactly is the equipment replicated ? [7:26243]

2001-11-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 12:15 PM 11/14/01, John Green wrote:
>-
>and what would this mean ??
>where exactly is the equipment replicated ? is it one
>at customer
>access point and the other at the carrier provider's
>end? is this what
>is duplication and what is the context for
>"Multiple networks" ?

You'll have to tell us the context. Where did you get the wording below and 
what is it in reference too? It sounds like a bunch of "hand waving" that 
might make more sense with some context, but might not. Very few companies 
would implement multiple, parallel networks to meet availability goals, but 
some might.

The sentence at the end doesn't fit. Did it come from somewhere else? Or 
maybe it fits if you read this as advertising material from a service 
provider. Are they trying to justify why a customer should use them for 
redundancy or something? It's impossible to tell.

And I have a question for you. What does 42 mean? Thanks.

Priscilla

>
>"Multiple networks, however, are extremely expensive
>to build and
>maintain. Capital expenditure is high because
>equipment is replicated,
>and operation and maintenance costs are high because
>of the
>duplication of personnel and practices for each
>separate network. At
>the same time, competitive pressures in the
>communication industry are
>forcing providers to shift their business models from
>simply providing
>bandwidth to delivering revenue-generating,
>value-added services"
>
>__
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals
>http://personals.yahoo.com


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: where exactly is the equipment replicated ? [7:26243]

2001-11-14 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

One thing that really has to be examined in scenarios like this is 
when to build your redundant data center and network yourself, or if 
better economies of scale come from putting the backup facilities 
into a well-connected hosting center.

Such centers often, but not always, have lots of experience setting 
up the redundancy mechanisms. It even can be different with different 
parts of the same company -- I've had much better support from AT&T 
in Nashville then in Washington DC (hi Michelle!)




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