Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks
Hey guys, You guys might need to dig a little deeper, try wiki/monel and look to the section "other" and the alloy Monel 400, which will be the common tank material. BTW, it is also the best alloy for kitchen sinks... a much harsher application than a water tank that gets "shocked" once or twice a year. It is THE preferred alloy for marine applications, far superior than stainless steels but a little more expensive so you won't see much on production yachts. Lastly, a little reminder about our salt water boats sitting in a solution of NaCl (sodium & chloride) and the shaft and thingies down there last for years and years because of an ultra low corrosion rate if Monel is used. My spring tank routine is a bleach shock (about 1/2 cup for 15 gallons) to a 1/2 tank then fill to top. After a 1 beer soak, I pop the outlet hose and drain to bilge. A couple of good rinses follow and done for another year. During summer I might add a teaspoon of bleach during a fill if I remember. We use the tank for drinking and coffee water but put it through a Britta filter. The above will freshen the bilge as a bonus. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 07:25 AM 05/07/2017, you wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_05f58d4eb1604faebaf38c6080284c2fNSCDAG306baadssagov_" Just did some Google-Fu and Monel might not be especially good with chlorine. J From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 10:11 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks Ron, This looks like a winner! The tanks are in my Hylas. The Office did not have Monel. I've read that chlorine reacts with the metal so it should be avoided, but that info could be wrong. Joel On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Joel, Hereâs what I used for my âplasticâ tanks: <https://www.fisheriessupply.com/thetford-fresh-water-tank-sanitizer-36662>https://www.fisheriessupply.com/thetford-fresh-water-tank-sanitizer-36662. It is supposed to be non-corrosive. Iâm curious how you got Monel tanks. It is corrosion resistant but does corrode. I have a 3â ball from a sea valve that has ¼â deep pits on the surface where it was exposed to salt water. Regards, Ron Ron Ricci S/V Patriot C 37+ Bristol, RI <mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com>ron.ri...@1968.usna.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 2:18 PM To: <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks All Anything you can add to monel water tanks to keep them clean? Joel -- Joel <tel:(301)%20541-8551>301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: <https://www.paypal.me/stumurray>https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks
Just did some Google-Fu and Monel might not be especially good with chlorine. J From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 10:11 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks Ron, This looks like a winner! The tanks are in my Hylas. The Office did not have Monel. I've read that chlorine reacts with the metal so it should be avoided, but that info could be wrong. Joel On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Joel, Here’s what I used for my ‘plastic’ tanks: https://www.fisheriessupply.com/thetford-fresh-water-tank-sanitizer-36662. It is supposed to be non-corrosive. I’m curious how you got Monel tanks. It is corrosion resistant but does corrode. I have a 3” ball from a sea valve that has ¼” deep pits on the surface where it was exposed to salt water. Regards, Ron Ron Ricci S/V Patriot C 37+ Bristol, RI ron.ri...@1968.usna.com<mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 2:18 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks All Anything you can add to monel water tanks to keep them clean? Joel -- Joel 301 541 8551<tel:(301)%20541-8551> ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks
Ron, This looks like a winner! The tanks are in my Hylas. The Office did not have Monel. I've read that chlorine reacts with the metal so it should be avoided, but that info could be wrong. Joel On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Joel, > > > > Here’s what I used for my ‘plastic’ tanks: https://www.fisheriessupply. > com/thetford-fresh-water-tank-sanitizer-36662. It is supposed to be > non-corrosive. > > > > I’m curious how you got Monel tanks. It is corrosion resistant but does > corrode. I have a 3” ball from a sea valve that has ¼” deep pits on the > surface where it was exposed to salt water. > > > > Regards, > > *Ron* > > Ron Ricci > > S/V Patriot > > C 37+ > > Bristol, RI > > ron.ri...@1968.usna.com > > > > > > > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel > Aronson via CnC-List > *Sent:* Monday, July 3, 2017 2:18 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Joel Aronson > *Subject:* Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks > > > > All > > > > Anything you can add to monel water tanks to keep them clean? > > > > Joel > > -- > > Joel > 301 541 8551 <(301)%20541-8551> > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks
+1 I always thought Monel was the most corrosion-proof type of metal to be had. I can tell you my fresh water system benefits hugely from putting the whole bottle of Clorox in once a year, flushing it through, and adding a little bit with every fill. I have fiberglass tanks. We still don’t drink tank water unless dying of thirst though. Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Russ & Melody via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2017 10:31 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks Hi Joel, Why are you looking for a chlorine alternative? It is probably your best choice to treat monel tanks. Monel is spec'd in many chlorine handling applications because of its excellent corrosion resistance. It is an excellent oxidizer, will kill undesirable microbes and is unstable enough to be non-reactive in a relatively short time. Apply to the tank a week or more before you're going away. Golden. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 12:33 PM 04/07/2017, you wrote: I'll check it out. There has got to be a chlorine alternative.  Joel On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 8:13 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I am not sure if this is what you are asking for, but I am using this: https://www.thechandleryonline.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_353_id=2386 . I always had problems with water going bad over time (we don’t use too much of it). This thing keeps it fresh longer (a month? 6 weeks?).  Interestingly, I could not find it anywhere else on the web, so it might be Canadian specific.  Marek  From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 14:19 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks  All  Anything you can add to monel water tanks to keep them clean?  Joel -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks
Joel, Here’s what I used for my ‘plastic’ tanks: https://www.fisheriessupply.com/thetford-fresh-water-tank-sanitizer-36662. It is supposed to be non-corrosive. I’m curious how you got Monel tanks. It is corrosion resistant but does corrode. I have a 3” ball from a sea valve that has ¼” deep pits on the surface where it was exposed to salt water. Regards, Ron Ron Ricci S/V Patriot C 37+ Bristol, RI <mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com> ron.ri...@1968.usna.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 2:18 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks All Anything you can add to monel water tanks to keep them clean? Joel -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks
Hi Joel, Why are you looking for a chlorine alternative? It is probably your best choice to treat monel tanks. Monel is spec'd in many chlorine handling applications because of its excellent corrosion resistance. It is an excellent oxidizer, will kill undesirable microbes and is unstable enough to be non-reactive in a relatively short time. Apply to the tank a week or more before you're going away. Golden. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 12:33 PM 04/07/2017, you wrote: I'll check it out. There has got to be a chlorine alternative.  Joel On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 8:13 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: I am not sure if this is what you are asking for, but I am using this: <https://www.thechandleryonline.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_353_id=2386>https://www.thechandleryonline.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_353_id=2386. I always had problems with water going bad over time (we donât use too much of it). This thing keeps it fresh longer (a month? 6 weeks?).  Interestingly, I could not find it anywhere else on the web, so it might be Canadian specific.  Marek  From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 14:19 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks  All  Anything you can add to monel water tanks to keep them clean?  Joel -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: <https://www.paypal.me/stumurray>https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks
I'll check it out. There has got to be a chlorine alternative. Joel On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 8:13 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I am not sure if this is what you are asking for, but I am using this: > https://www.thechandleryonline.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_353_id=2386. > I always had problems with water going bad over time (we don’t use too much > of it). This thing keeps it fresh longer (a month? 6 weeks?). > > Interestingly, I could not find it anywhere else on the web, so it might > be Canadian specific. > > Marek > > *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List > *Sent:* Monday, July 3, 2017 14:19 > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Joel Aronson > *Subject:* Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks > > All > > Anything you can add to monel water tanks to keep them clean? > > Joel > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks
I am not sure if this is what you are asking for, but I am using this: https://www.thechandleryonline.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_353_id=2386. I always had problems with water going bad over time (we don’t use too much of it). This thing keeps it fresh longer (a month? 6 weeks?). Interestingly, I could not find it anywhere else on the web, so it might be Canadian specific. Marek From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 14:19 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks All Anything you can add to monel water tanks to keep them clean? Joel -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List Treating Monel water tanks
All Anything you can add to monel water tanks to keep them clean? Joel -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
