Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Mark Vega]

If you're planning to teach to beginners, I also would recommend TextWrangler 
from Bare Bones software.  It doesn't have a lot of bells and whistles but is 
free, easy to use, and was written specifically for Macs.  Won't confuse new 
coders and can be considered a gateway editor to introduce them to code editors 
in general.

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Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Riley Childs]

I am also a huge fan of Cloud 9 at c9.io, it even hooks into github and is very 
slick. You get 1 free private "Project".
//Riley

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From: Code for Libraries  on behalf of Shaun Ellis 

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 9:16 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

There is no reason to install an editor for this purpose.  Mozilla has a
suite of free apps for this purpose at Webmaker:

https://webmaker.org

Thimble is the editor, and I think it's very nice for students that
there is immediate feedback so you can see how your change affects the
rendering:

https://thimble.webmaker.org/

-Shaun


On 5/18/15 8:36 AM, Schulkins, Joe wrote:
> As a bit of a left field alternative there’s always Vim.
>
> Ok it might not be the best introduction to text editors, but given it
> exists on pretty much every platform (including Android and iPhone/iPad -
> http://www.vim.org/download.php) there’d be no excuses for not doing the
> homework.
>
> The main Mac port (https://code.google.com/p/macvim/) has legacy versions
> back to 10.4. However, this might be more of an extra credit editor given
> that it takes *some* getting used to. There is a game
> (http://vim-adventures.com/) which can help with learning some of the
> basic Vim controls.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> On 16/05/2015 15:20, "Sarles Patricia (18K500)" 
> wrote:
>
>> I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda
>> Yelton's column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest
>> since I would like to teach coding in my high school library next year.
>>
>> I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my
>> summer reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are
>> either not really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?
>>
>> Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
>> Patricia
>>
>>
>> 
>> Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
>> Librarian
>> Jerome Parker Campus Library
>> 100 Essex Drive
>> Staten Island, NY 10314
>> 718-370-6900 x1322
>> psar...@schools.nyc.gov
>> http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home
>>
>> You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether
>> a man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz
>>
>> As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the
>> best information. - Benjamin Disraeli

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Shaun Ellis]

There is no reason to install an editor for this purpose.  Mozilla has a 
suite of free apps for this purpose at Webmaker:


https://webmaker.org

Thimble is the editor, and I think it's very nice for students that 
there is immediate feedback so you can see how your change affects the 
rendering:


https://thimble.webmaker.org/

-Shaun


On 5/18/15 8:36 AM, Schulkins, Joe wrote:

As a bit of a left field alternative there’s always Vim.

Ok it might not be the best introduction to text editors, but given it
exists on pretty much every platform (including Android and iPhone/iPad -
http://www.vim.org/download.php) there’d be no excuses for not doing the
homework.

The main Mac port (https://code.google.com/p/macvim/) has legacy versions
back to 10.4. However, this might be more of an extra credit editor given
that it takes *some* getting used to. There is a game
(http://vim-adventures.com/) which can help with learning some of the
basic Vim controls.

Joe



On 16/05/2015 15:20, "Sarles Patricia (18K500)" 
wrote:


I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda
Yelton's column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest
since I would like to teach coding in my high school library next year.

I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my
summer reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are
either not really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.

Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?

Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
Patricia



Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
Librarian
Jerome Parker Campus Library
100 Essex Drive
Staten Island, NY 10314
718-370-6900 x1322
psar...@schools.nyc.gov
http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home

You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether
a man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz

As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the
best information. - Benjamin Disraeli

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Schulkins, Joe]

As a bit of a left field alternative there’s always Vim. 

Ok it might not be the best introduction to text editors, but given it 
exists on pretty much every platform (including Android and iPhone/iPad - 
http://www.vim.org/download.php) there’d be no excuses for not doing the 
homework.

The main Mac port (https://code.google.com/p/macvim/) has legacy versions 
back to 10.4. However, this might be more of an extra credit editor given 
that it takes *some* getting used to. There is a game 
(http://vim-adventures.com/) which can help with learning some of the 
basic Vim controls.

Joe



On 16/05/2015 15:20, "Sarles Patricia (18K500)"  
wrote:

>I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda 
>Yelton's column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest 
>since I would like to teach coding in my high school library next year.
>
>I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my 
>summer reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are 
>either not really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.
>
>Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?
>
>Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
>Patricia
>
>
>
>Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
>Librarian
>Jerome Parker Campus Library
>100 Essex Drive
>Staten Island, NY 10314
>718-370-6900 x1322
>psar...@schools.nyc.gov
>http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home
>
>You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether 
>a man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz
>
>As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the 
>best information. - Benjamin Disraeli

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Brian Wu]

I used to use Smultron (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/15114/smultron) on
my PowerBook G3. It's no Sublime text, but it does a pretty good job as far
as GUI based text editors goes.

I think someone forked the project and it's known as Fraise now. Depending
on your computer's capabilities, that might be better or worse to run.

Best,
Brian

On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:59 PM, Michelle Chrzanowski  wrote:

> I second Sublime and Atom (I use both for a variety of projects). They are
> very easy to use and the color coding is very helpful. I have also used
> TextWrangler, but like Sublime and Atom better (I'm currently using Atom).
>
> Michelle
>
> Michelle Chrzanowski
> Library Specialist II
> Tidewater Community College
> 300 Granby Street
> Norfolk, VA 23510
> (757) 822-1101
> mchrzanow...@tcc.edu
>
> Sent from Outlook
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 7:21 AM -0700, "Sarles Patricia (18K500)" <
> psar...@schools.nyc.gov> wrote:
>
> I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda
> Yelton's column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest
> since I would like to teach coding in my high school library next year.
>
> I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my
> summer reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either
> not really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.
>
> Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?
>
> Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
> Patricia
>
>
> 
> Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
> Librarian
> Jerome Parker Campus Library
> 100 Essex Drive
> Staten Island, NY 10314
> 718-370-6900 x1322
> psar...@schools.nyc.gov
> http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home
>
> You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether
> a man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz
>
> As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the
> best information. - Benjamin Disraeli
>
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Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Michelle Chrzanowski]

I second Sublime and Atom (I use both for a variety of projects). They are very 
easy to use and the color coding is very helpful. I have also used 
TextWrangler, but like Sublime and Atom better (I'm currently using Atom).

Michelle

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Library Specialist II
Tidewater Community College
300 Granby Street
Norfolk, VA 23510
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On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 7:21 AM -0700, "Sarles Patricia (18K500)" 
mailto:psar...@schools.nyc.gov>> wrote:

I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda Yelton's 
column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest since I would 
like to teach coding in my high school library next year.

I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my summer 
reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either not really 
free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.

Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?

Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
Patricia



Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
Librarian
Jerome Parker Campus Library
100 Essex Drive
Staten Island, NY 10314
718-370-6900 x1322
psar...@schools.nyc.gov
http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home

You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man 
is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz

As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best 
information. - Benjamin Disraeli



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Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Joe Hourcle]

On Sat, 16 May 2015, Miles Fidelman wrote:

[trimmed]

Your real problem might be running a browser that's new enough to support 
HTML5 and CSS3.  Otherwise, editing HTML isn't going to do you much good.


Apple won't let the most recent version of Safari run on 10.6.8 (you're 
stuck at 5.1.10), but Firefox (38.0.1) and Chrome (42.0.2311.152) are both 
fine.


-Joe

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Andromeda Yelton]

Another thing you might want to check out - my alma mater has a CS MOOC
that's aimed at supporting middle/high school CS classes and teachers -
http://www.muddx.com/courses/HMC/MyCS/Middle-years_Computer_Science/about .

On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Sarles Patricia (18K500) <
psar...@schools.nyc.gov> wrote:

> I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda
> Yelton's column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest
> since I would like to teach coding in my high school library next year.
>
> I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my
> summer reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either
> not really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.
>
> Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?
>
> Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
> Patricia
>
>
> 
> Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
> Librarian
> Jerome Parker Campus Library
> 100 Essex Drive
> Staten Island, NY 10314
> 718-370-6900 x1322
> psar...@schools.nyc.gov
> http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home
>
> You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether
> a man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz
>
> As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the
> best information. - Benjamin Disraeli
>



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Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Andromeda Yelton]

Hey, glad to see you here!

You might want to check out
https://openhatch.org/wiki/Boston_Python_Workshop_6/Friday/OSX_text_editor
- Boston Python Workshop has spent a while coming up with bulletproof
instructions for people with a wide range of experience. The links at that
page no longer work but the files are still available at Sourceforge, so
you can make an amended version easily enough.

On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Sarles Patricia (18K500) <
psar...@schools.nyc.gov> wrote:

> I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda
> Yelton's column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest
> since I would like to teach coding in my high school library next year.
>
> I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my
> summer reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either
> not really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.
>
> Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?
>
> Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
> Patricia
>
>
> 
> Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
> Librarian
> Jerome Parker Campus Library
> 100 Essex Drive
> Staten Island, NY 10314
> 718-370-6900 x1322
> psar...@schools.nyc.gov
> http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home
>
> You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether
> a man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz
>
> As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the
> best information. - Benjamin Disraeli
>



-- 
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Board of Directors, Library & Information Technology Association:
http://www.lita.org
Advisor, Ada Initiative: http://adainitiative.org
http://andromedayelton.com
@ThatAndromeda 

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Miles Fidelman]

Sarles Patricia (18K500) wrote:

I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda Yelton's 
column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest since I would 
like to teach coding in my high school library next year.

I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my summer 
reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either not really 
free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.

Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?




Well... you could see if SeaMonkey runs - it includes Composer which 
gives you both WYSIWIG and HTML source editing - or it's later 
derivatives NVU and Komposer.  Since those are relatively old, they 
should run on a circa 2008 Mac.


Of course any text editor will let you edit HTML - and, assuming you're 
running OS X, you've got unix underneath.  You've pretty much got your 
pick of anything that will run in a console window or an X-window.


Your real problem might be running a browser that's new enough to 
support HTML5 and CSS3.  Otherwise, editing HTML isn't going to do you 
much good.



--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.    Yogi Berra

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Cary Gordon]

BBEDit 10.5.13 is available and will run on 10.6.8. I have been using BBEdit 
for 23 years, originally on an SE/30. Before content management systems were a 
thing, BBEdit’s implementation of regex search and replace was an FSM-send for 
site maintainers.

You could use VIM with some plugins, but I agree that you might look at simple 
online editors.

Cary

> On May 16, 2015, at 2:20 PM, David Mayo  wrote:
> 
> Actually, BBEdit doesn't support 10.6, so scratch that option.
> 
> - Dave
> 
> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 5:18 PM, David Mayo  wrote:
> 
>> Just a side note: I'd be very leery of using Textedit.  No offense meant
>> to Jason, but Textedit supports (and, unlss configured, defaults) to RTF
>> for files it creates, which won't work for HTML/CSS.
>> 
>> If you're on 10.6.8, Textwrangler's current version works, as does
>> SublimeText 2.  If you have money to throw at the problem, BBEdit does have
>> substantial web-related stuff added on to TextWrangler, and may have an
>> educational discount.
>> 
>> - Dave
>> 
>> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Joe Hourcle <
>> onei...@grace.nascom.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 16 May 2015, Nathan Rogers wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you do not need all the bells and whistles I would recommend
>>>> TextWrangler. Free versions should still be available online and its bigger
>>>> brother BBEdit is overkill for basic web editing.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Actually, the significant difference between TextWrangler and BBEdit is
>>> that BBEdits has a number of features that are specifically for web design,
>>> that don't exist in TextWrangler.
>>> 
>>> Looking at the version of BBEdit 9.1 that I have installed, the majority
>>> of it is in the 'Markup' menu:
>>> 
>>> * Close current tag / Balance tags
>>> * Check syntax
>>> * Check links
>>> * Check accessibility
>>> * Cleaners for GoLive/PageMill/HomePage/DreamWeaver
>>> * Convert to HTML / XHTML
>>> * Menu items to insert tags (which then give what attributes are allowed)
>>> * Menu item to insert CSS
>>> * Preview in ... (gives a list of installed web browsers)
>>> 
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> That said, TextWrangler is still a good free editor -- and I personally
>>> rarely ever use the insert tags/CSS items (as I've been writing HTML for
>>> ... crap ... I feel old ... 20+ years).
>>> 
>>> But to say that BBEdit is overkill for web editing is just wrong -- the
>>> majority of the feature differences are *specifically* for web editing.
>>> 
>>> -Joe
>>> 
>>> (disclaimer: for a decade or so, I was a beta tester for BareBones.  I
>>> haven't been using the latest-and-greatest version in a while, as I prefer
>>> not to install newer version of MacOSX on my personal systems ...
>>> basically, since Apple decided to bring all of the iOS annoyances into the
>>> desktop.  As such, I can't install BBEdit 10 or 11 to see what the
>>> difference are in more recent versions)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: "Sarles Patricia (18K500)" 
>>>> Sent: ?5/?16/?2015 10:21 AM
>>>> To: "CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" 
>>>> Subject: [CODE4LIB] free html editors
>>>> 
>>>> I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda
>>>> Yelton's column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest
>>>> since I would like to teach coding in my high school library next year.
>>>> 
>>>> I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my
>>>> summer reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either
>>>> not really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
>>>> Patricia
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
>>>> Librarian
>>>> Jerome Parker Campus Library
>>>> 100 Essex Drive
>>>> Staten Island, NY 10314
>>>> 718-370-6900 x1322
>>>> psar...@schools.nyc.gov
>>>> http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home
>>>> 
>>>> You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell
>>>> whether a man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz
>>>> 
>>>> As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the
>>>> best information. - Benjamin Disraeli
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Jason Bengtson]

That's an education issue, as I pointed out in the course. Understanding
that it can be an issue helps students when they edit or convert other
types of text in other types of encoding further on down the line. The
biggest advantage of textedit is that people have it.

Best regards,
*Jason Bengtson, MLIS, MA*
Innovation Architect


*Houston Academy of MedicineThe Texas Medical Center Library*
1133 John Freeman Blvd
Houston, TX   77030
http://library.tmc.edu/
www.jasonbengtson.com

On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 4:18 PM, David Mayo  wrote:

> Just a side note: I'd be very leery of using Textedit.  No offense meant to
> Jason, but Textedit supports (and, unlss configured, defaults) to RTF for
> files it creates, which won't work for HTML/CSS.
>
> If you're on 10.6.8, Textwrangler's current version works, as does
> SublimeText 2.  If you have money to throw at the problem, BBEdit does have
> substantial web-related stuff added on to TextWrangler, and may have an
> educational discount.
>
> - Dave
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Joe Hourcle <
> onei...@grace.nascom.nasa.gov>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 16 May 2015, Nathan Rogers wrote:
> >
> >  If you do not need all the bells and whistles I would recommend
> >> TextWrangler. Free versions should still be available online and its
> bigger
> >> brother BBEdit is overkill for basic web editing.
> >>
> >
> > Actually, the significant difference between TextWrangler and BBEdit is
> > that BBEdits has a number of features that are specifically for web
> design,
> > that don't exist in TextWrangler.
> >
> > Looking at the version of BBEdit 9.1 that I have installed, the majority
> > of it is in the 'Markup' menu:
> >
> > * Close current tag / Balance tags
> > * Check syntax
> > * Check links
> > * Check accessibility
> > * Cleaners for GoLive/PageMill/HomePage/DreamWeaver
> > * Convert to HTML / XHTML
> > * Menu items to insert tags (which then give what attributes are allowed)
> > * Menu item to insert CSS
> > * Preview in ... (gives a list of installed web browsers)
> >
> > ...
> >
> > That said, TextWrangler is still a good free editor -- and I personally
> > rarely ever use the insert tags/CSS items (as I've been writing HTML for
> > ... crap ... I feel old ... 20+ years).
> >
> > But to say that BBEdit is overkill for web editing is just wrong -- the
> > majority of the feature differences are *specifically* for web editing.
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> > (disclaimer: for a decade or so, I was a beta tester for BareBones.  I
> > haven't been using the latest-and-greatest version in a while, as I
> prefer
> > not to install newer version of MacOSX on my personal systems ...
> > basically, since Apple decided to bring all of the iOS annoyances into
> the
> > desktop.  As such, I can't install BBEdit 10 or 11 to see what the
> > difference are in more recent versions)
> >
> >
> >  -Original Message-
> >> From: "Sarles Patricia (18K500)" 
> >> Sent: ?5/?16/?2015 10:21 AM
> >> To: "CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" 
> >> Subject: [CODE4LIB] free html editors
> >>
> >> I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda
> >> Yelton's column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest
> >> since I would like to teach coding in my high school library next year.
> >>
> >> I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my
> >> summer reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are
> either
> >> not really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.
> >>
> >> Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?
> >>
> >> Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
> >> Patricia
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >> Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
> >> Librarian
> >> Jerome Parker Campus Library
> >> 100 Essex Drive
> >> Staten Island, NY 10314
> >> 718-370-6900 x1322
> >> psar...@schools.nyc.gov
> >> http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home
> >>
> >> You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell
> whether
> >> a man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz
> >>
> >> As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the
> >> best information. - Benjamin Disraeli
> >>
> >>
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[David Mayo]

Actually, BBEdit doesn't support 10.6, so scratch that option.

- Dave

On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 5:18 PM, David Mayo  wrote:

> Just a side note: I'd be very leery of using Textedit.  No offense meant
> to Jason, but Textedit supports (and, unlss configured, defaults) to RTF
> for files it creates, which won't work for HTML/CSS.
>
> If you're on 10.6.8, Textwrangler's current version works, as does
> SublimeText 2.  If you have money to throw at the problem, BBEdit does have
> substantial web-related stuff added on to TextWrangler, and may have an
> educational discount.
>
> - Dave
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Joe Hourcle <
> onei...@grace.nascom.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 16 May 2015, Nathan Rogers wrote:
>>
>>  If you do not need all the bells and whistles I would recommend
>>> TextWrangler. Free versions should still be available online and its bigger
>>> brother BBEdit is overkill for basic web editing.
>>>
>>
>> Actually, the significant difference between TextWrangler and BBEdit is
>> that BBEdits has a number of features that are specifically for web design,
>> that don't exist in TextWrangler.
>>
>> Looking at the version of BBEdit 9.1 that I have installed, the majority
>> of it is in the 'Markup' menu:
>>
>> * Close current tag / Balance tags
>> * Check syntax
>> * Check links
>> * Check accessibility
>> * Cleaners for GoLive/PageMill/HomePage/DreamWeaver
>> * Convert to HTML / XHTML
>> * Menu items to insert tags (which then give what attributes are allowed)
>> * Menu item to insert CSS
>> * Preview in ... (gives a list of installed web browsers)
>>
>> ...
>>
>> That said, TextWrangler is still a good free editor -- and I personally
>> rarely ever use the insert tags/CSS items (as I've been writing HTML for
>> ... crap ... I feel old ... 20+ years).
>>
>> But to say that BBEdit is overkill for web editing is just wrong -- the
>> majority of the feature differences are *specifically* for web editing.
>>
>> -Joe
>>
>> (disclaimer: for a decade or so, I was a beta tester for BareBones.  I
>> haven't been using the latest-and-greatest version in a while, as I prefer
>> not to install newer version of MacOSX on my personal systems ...
>> basically, since Apple decided to bring all of the iOS annoyances into the
>> desktop.  As such, I can't install BBEdit 10 or 11 to see what the
>> difference are in more recent versions)
>>
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>>> From: "Sarles Patricia (18K500)" 
>>> Sent: ?5/?16/?2015 10:21 AM
>>> To: "CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" 
>>> Subject: [CODE4LIB] free html editors
>>>
>>> I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda
>>> Yelton's column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest
>>> since I would like to teach coding in my high school library next year.
>>>
>>> I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my
>>> summer reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either
>>> not really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.
>>>
>>> Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?
>>>
>>> Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
>>> Patricia
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
>>> Librarian
>>> Jerome Parker Campus Library
>>> 100 Essex Drive
>>> Staten Island, NY 10314
>>> 718-370-6900 x1322
>>> psar...@schools.nyc.gov
>>> http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home
>>>
>>> You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell
>>> whether a man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz
>>>
>>> As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the
>>> best information. - Benjamin Disraeli
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[David Mayo]

Just a side note: I'd be very leery of using Textedit.  No offense meant to
Jason, but Textedit supports (and, unlss configured, defaults) to RTF for
files it creates, which won't work for HTML/CSS.

If you're on 10.6.8, Textwrangler's current version works, as does
SublimeText 2.  If you have money to throw at the problem, BBEdit does have
substantial web-related stuff added on to TextWrangler, and may have an
educational discount.

- Dave

On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Joe Hourcle 
wrote:

> On Sat, 16 May 2015, Nathan Rogers wrote:
>
>  If you do not need all the bells and whistles I would recommend
>> TextWrangler. Free versions should still be available online and its bigger
>> brother BBEdit is overkill for basic web editing.
>>
>
> Actually, the significant difference between TextWrangler and BBEdit is
> that BBEdits has a number of features that are specifically for web design,
> that don't exist in TextWrangler.
>
> Looking at the version of BBEdit 9.1 that I have installed, the majority
> of it is in the 'Markup' menu:
>
> * Close current tag / Balance tags
> * Check syntax
> * Check links
> * Check accessibility
> * Cleaners for GoLive/PageMill/HomePage/DreamWeaver
> * Convert to HTML / XHTML
> * Menu items to insert tags (which then give what attributes are allowed)
> * Menu item to insert CSS
> * Preview in ... (gives a list of installed web browsers)
>
> ...
>
> That said, TextWrangler is still a good free editor -- and I personally
> rarely ever use the insert tags/CSS items (as I've been writing HTML for
> ... crap ... I feel old ... 20+ years).
>
> But to say that BBEdit is overkill for web editing is just wrong -- the
> majority of the feature differences are *specifically* for web editing.
>
> -Joe
>
> (disclaimer: for a decade or so, I was a beta tester for BareBones.  I
> haven't been using the latest-and-greatest version in a while, as I prefer
> not to install newer version of MacOSX on my personal systems ...
> basically, since Apple decided to bring all of the iOS annoyances into the
> desktop.  As such, I can't install BBEdit 10 or 11 to see what the
> difference are in more recent versions)
>
>
>  -Original Message-
>> From: "Sarles Patricia (18K500)" 
>> Sent: ?5/?16/?2015 10:21 AM
>> To: "CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" 
>> Subject: [CODE4LIB] free html editors
>>
>> I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda
>> Yelton's column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest
>> since I would like to teach coding in my high school library next year.
>>
>> I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my
>> summer reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either
>> not really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?
>>
>> Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
>> Patricia
>>
>>
>> 
>> Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
>> Librarian
>> Jerome Parker Campus Library
>> 100 Essex Drive
>> Staten Island, NY 10314
>> 718-370-6900 x1322
>> psar...@schools.nyc.gov
>> http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home
>>
>> You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether
>> a man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz
>>
>> As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the
>> best information. - Benjamin Disraeli
>>
>>

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Joe Hourcle]

On Sat, 16 May 2015, Nathan Rogers wrote:

If you do not need all the bells and whistles I would recommend 
TextWrangler. Free versions should still be available online and its 
bigger brother BBEdit is overkill for basic web editing.


Actually, the significant difference between TextWrangler and BBEdit is 
that BBEdits has a number of features that are specifically for web 
design, that don't exist in TextWrangler.


Looking at the version of BBEdit 9.1 that I have installed, the majority 
of it is in the 'Markup' menu:


* Close current tag / Balance tags
* Check syntax
* Check links
* Check accessibility
* Cleaners for GoLive/PageMill/HomePage/DreamWeaver
* Convert to HTML / XHTML
* Menu items to insert tags (which then give what attributes are allowed)
* Menu item to insert CSS
* Preview in ... (gives a list of installed web browsers)

...

That said, TextWrangler is still a good free editor -- and I personally 
rarely ever use the insert tags/CSS items (as I've been writing HTML for 
... crap ... I feel old ... 20+ years).


But to say that BBEdit is overkill for web editing is just wrong -- the 
majority of the feature differences are *specifically* for web editing.


-Joe

(disclaimer: for a decade or so, I was a beta tester for BareBones.  I 
haven't been using the latest-and-greatest version in a while, as I prefer 
not to install newer version of MacOSX on my personal systems ... 
basically, since Apple decided to bring all of the iOS annoyances into the 
desktop.  As such, I can't install BBEdit 10 or 11 to see what the 
difference are in more recent versions)




-Original Message-
From: "Sarles Patricia (18K500)" 
Sent: ?5/?16/?2015 10:21 AM
To: "CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" 
Subject: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda Yelton's 
column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest since I would 
like to teach coding in my high school library next year.

I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my summer 
reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either not really 
free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.

Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?

Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
Patricia



Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
Librarian
Jerome Parker Campus Library
100 Essex Drive
Staten Island, NY 10314
718-370-6900 x1322
psar...@schools.nyc.gov
http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home

You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man 
is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz

As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best 
information. - Benjamin Disraeli

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Francis Kayiwa]

On 5/16/15 3:04 PM, Sarles Patricia (18K500) wrote:

The Macs are from 2008 and running I believe 10.6.8.

I can double check that when I get to work, but I am right now working on a 
2007 Mac running 10.6.8 so the ones at work might be running a slightly newer 
version, but they are definitely running OS 10 something.



This eliminates Atom.io and Sublime Text 3 (emphases on 3 because it 
*may* work with Sublime Text 2).


I'm having a hard time calling those old ;-) but that's computing for 
you these days.


I'm thinking TextWrangler will be your best bet to be honest.

Cheers,
./fxk


--
Finagle's Second Law:
Always keep a record of data -- it indicates you've been working.

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Sarles Patricia (18K500)]

The Macs are from 2008 and running I believe 10.6.8.

I can double check that when I get to work, but I am right now working on a 
2007 Mac running 10.6.8 so the ones at work might be running a slightly newer 
version, but they are definitely running OS 10 something.

I hope that helps somewhat but I will report back when I get back to work on 
Monday.

I really appreciate everyone's suggestions so far.



Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
Librarian
Jerome Parker Campus Library
100 Essex Drive
Staten Island, NY 10314
718-370-6900 x1322
psar...@schools.nyc.gov
http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home

You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man 
is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz

As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best 
information. - Benjamin Disraeli




From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Francis Kayiwa 
[kay...@pobox.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:47 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

On 5/16/15 10:20 AM, Sarles Patricia (18K500) wrote:
> I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda Yelton's 
> column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest since I would 
> like to teach coding in my high school library next year.
>
> I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my summer 
> reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either not 
> really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.
>
> Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?

Hello,

It is easier to offer suggestions if you narrow down as best as you can
your meaning of "older macs". ;-) Like David Mayo mentioned Text
Wrangler (BBEdit?) will work for the PPC Macs. The Sublime Text and
Atom.io "expect you to have a new (even I don't have a definition so I
feel your pain ;-)) Mac.

I'd say start with what version of Macintosh OS are the running.

Cheers and welcome.

./fxk

--
Finagle's First Law:
To study a subject best, understand it thoroughly before you start.

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Francis Kayiwa]

On 5/16/15 10:20 AM, Sarles Patricia (18K500) wrote:

I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda Yelton's 
column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest since I would 
like to teach coding in my high school library next year.

I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my summer 
reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either not really 
free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.

Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?


Hello,

It is easier to offer suggestions if you narrow down as best as you can 
your meaning of "older macs". ;-) Like David Mayo mentioned Text 
Wrangler (BBEdit?) will work for the PPC Macs. The Sublime Text and 
Atom.io "expect you to have a new (even I don't have a definition so I 
feel your pain ;-)) Mac.


I'd say start with what version of Macintosh OS are the running.

Cheers and welcome.

./fxk

--
Finagle's First Law:
To study a subject best, understand it thoroughly before you start.

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Nathan Rogers]

If you do not need all the bells and whistles I would recommend TextWrangler. 
Free versions should still be available online and its bigger brother BBEdit is 
overkill for basic web editing.

-Original Message-
From: "Sarles Patricia (18K500)" 
Sent: ‎5/‎16/‎2015 10:21 AM
To: "CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" 
Subject: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda Yelton's 
column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest since I would 
like to teach coding in my high school library next year.

I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my summer 
reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either not really 
free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.

Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?

Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
Patricia



Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
Librarian
Jerome Parker Campus Library
100 Essex Drive
Staten Island, NY 10314
718-370-6900 x1322
psar...@schools.nyc.gov
http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home

You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man 
is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz

As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best 
information. - Benjamin Disraeli

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Jenn C]

There's the new atom editor from github:

https://atom.io/

On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Cornel Darden Jr. <
corneldarde...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I recommend cloud editors.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cornel Darden Jr.
> MSLIS
> Library Department Chair
> South Suburban College
> 7087052945
>
> "Our Mission is to Serve our Students and the Community through lifelong
> learning."
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 16, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Sarles Patricia (18K500) <
> psar...@schools.nyc.gov> wrote:
> >
> > I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda
> Yelton's column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest
> since I would like to teach coding in my high school library next year.
> >
> > I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my
> summer reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either
> not really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?
> >
> > Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
> > Patricia
> >
> >
> > 
> > Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
> > Librarian
> > Jerome Parker Campus Library
> > 100 Essex Drive
> > Staten Island, NY 10314
> > 718-370-6900 x1322
> > psar...@schools.nyc.gov
> > http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home
> >
> > You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell
> whether a man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz
> >
> > As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the
> best information. - Benjamin Disraeli
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Cornel Darden Jr.]

Hello,

I recommend cloud editors. 

Thanks,

Cornel Darden Jr.  
MSLIS
Library Department Chair
South Suburban College
7087052945

"Our Mission is to Serve our Students and the Community through lifelong 
learning."

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Sarles Patricia (18K500) 
>  wrote:
> 
> I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda Yelton's 
> column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest since I would 
> like to teach coding in my high school library next year.
> 
> I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my summer 
> reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either not 
> really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.
> 
> Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?
> 
> Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
> Patricia
> 
> 
> 
> Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
> Librarian
> Jerome Parker Campus Library
> 100 Essex Drive
> Staten Island, NY 10314
> 718-370-6900 x1322
> psar...@schools.nyc.gov
> http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home
> 
> You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a 
> man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz
> 
> As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best 
> information. - Benjamin Disraeli

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Cynthia Ng]

I recommend Sublime: http://www.sublimetext.com/2 It's a great editor for
all languages (with lots of plugins if/when you need them). It's free to
use as long as you don't mind the pop up bugging you to buy it on occasion.

On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Jason Bengtson 
wrote:

> When I recently taught a beginning web coding course I told mac users they
> would be fine to start out just using textedit. If you really want them to
> get the advantage of color coding and other, more modern features, there
> are also online editors like:  that you can take a look at. Bluefish and
> Eclipse work on mac, although I don't know what kind of legacy support they
> have. Seems like it would be strong, though, since Eclipse is very widely
> used and has been around forever.
>
> Best regards,
> *Jason Bengtson, MLIS, MA*
> Innovation Architect
>
>
> *Houston Academy of MedicineThe Texas Medical Center Library*
> 1133 John Freeman Blvd
> Houston, TX   77030
> http://library.tmc.edu/
> www.jasonbengtson.com
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:19 AM, David Mayo  wrote:
>
> > Hmmm...
> >
> >
> > Are they Intel or PPC, and what OS version are they running?
> >
> > It seems likely that there's SOME version of TextWrangler that will work
> -
> > they keep old versions around for the use of people with older OS
> versions.
> >
> > http://www.barebones.com/support/textwrangler/updates.html
> >
> > On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Sarles Patricia (18K500) <
> > psar...@schools.nyc.gov> wrote:
> >
> > > I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda
> > > Yelton's column in American Libraries from yesterday with great
> interest
> > > since I would like to teach coding in my high school library next year.
> > >
> > > I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my
> > > summer reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are
> > either
> > > not really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.
> > >
> > > Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?
> > >
> > > Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
> > > Patricia
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
> > > Librarian
> > > Jerome Parker Campus Library
> > > 100 Essex Drive
> > > Staten Island, NY 10314
> > > 718-370-6900 x1322
> > > psar...@schools.nyc.gov
> > > http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home
> > >
> > > You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell
> whether
> > > a man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz
> > >
> > > As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has
> the
> > > best information. - Benjamin Disraeli
> > >
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Jason Bengtson]

When I recently taught a beginning web coding course I told mac users they
would be fine to start out just using textedit. If you really want them to
get the advantage of color coding and other, more modern features, there
are also online editors like:  that you can take a look at. Bluefish and
Eclipse work on mac, although I don't know what kind of legacy support they
have. Seems like it would be strong, though, since Eclipse is very widely
used and has been around forever.

Best regards,
*Jason Bengtson, MLIS, MA*
Innovation Architect


*Houston Academy of MedicineThe Texas Medical Center Library*
1133 John Freeman Blvd
Houston, TX   77030
http://library.tmc.edu/
www.jasonbengtson.com

On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:19 AM, David Mayo  wrote:

> Hmmm...
>
>
> Are they Intel or PPC, and what OS version are they running?
>
> It seems likely that there's SOME version of TextWrangler that will work -
> they keep old versions around for the use of people with older OS versions.
>
> http://www.barebones.com/support/textwrangler/updates.html
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Sarles Patricia (18K500) <
> psar...@schools.nyc.gov> wrote:
>
> > I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda
> > Yelton's column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest
> > since I would like to teach coding in my high school library next year.
> >
> > I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my
> > summer reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are
> either
> > not really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?
> >
> > Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
> > Patricia
> >
> >
> > 
> > Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
> > Librarian
> > Jerome Parker Campus Library
> > 100 Essex Drive
> > Staten Island, NY 10314
> > 718-370-6900 x1322
> > psar...@schools.nyc.gov
> > http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home
> >
> > You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether
> > a man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz
> >
> > As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the
> > best information. - Benjamin Disraeli
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] free html editors

[David Mayo]

Hmmm...


Are they Intel or PPC, and what OS version are they running?

It seems likely that there's SOME version of TextWrangler that will work -
they keep old versions around for the use of people with older OS versions.

http://www.barebones.com/support/textwrangler/updates.html

On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Sarles Patricia (18K500) <
psar...@schools.nyc.gov> wrote:

> I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda
> Yelton's column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest
> since I would like to teach coding in my high school library next year.
>
> I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my
> summer reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either
> not really free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.
>
> Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?
>
> Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
> Patricia
>
>
> 
> Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
> Librarian
> Jerome Parker Campus Library
> 100 Essex Drive
> Staten Island, NY 10314
> 718-370-6900 x1322
> psar...@schools.nyc.gov
> http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home
>
> You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether
> a man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz
>
> As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the
> best information. - Benjamin Disraeli
>

[CODE4LIB] free html editors

[Sarles Patricia (18K500)]

I just this minute subscribed to this list after reading Andromeda Yelton's 
column in American Libraries from yesterday with great interest since I would 
like to teach coding in my high school library next year.

I purchased Andy Harris' HTML5 and CSS3 All-in-One For Dummies for my summer 
reading and the free HTML editors he mentions in the book are either not really 
free or are not compatible with my lab's 2008 Macs.

Can anyone recommend a free HTML editor for older Macs?

Many thanks and happy to be on this list,
Patricia



Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
Librarian
Jerome Parker Campus Library
100 Essex Drive
Staten Island, NY 10314
718-370-6900 x1322
psar...@schools.nyc.gov
http://jeromeparkercampus.libguides.com/home

You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man 
is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz

As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best 
information. - Benjamin Disraeli