Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
Stephen Colebourne wrote: Demote [latka] to dormant status (It has no activity and no release) [X] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [latka] alive, because... Demote [reosurces] to dormant status (It's main customer Struts isn't using it now) [X] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [resources] alive, because... Stephen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
I agree with Niall. I've written several database-based implementations for resources, and there already exists a Struts plugin for resources that let's our users use commons-resources now (and is backward compatible to Struts 1.1). The only thing commons-resources really suffers from is not having someone give the time to do a release. I feel it is ready, I just don't have the time right now. -- James Mitchell EdgeTech, Inc. http://edgetechservices.net/ 678.910.8017 Skype: jmitchtx On Mar 12, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 10:04 PM Demote [latka] to dormant status (It has no activity and no release) [ ] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [latka] alive, because... +1 Demote [reosurces] to dormant status (It's main customer Struts isn't using it now) [ ] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [resources] alive, because... -0 Struts hasn't ever used it properly because it was never released. I still think theres a good reason for resources to exist and I would like to work on it. However practical reality is that I'm unlikely to do so, so I'm not going to vote against this, although at this point I would prefer it to remain as it is, rather than demoted back to the sandbox - which I believe practically means its demise. Niall PS: I'm hoping that someone will volunteer to do the actual svn moves and demotion ;-) Stephen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 05:25 -0500, James Mitchell wrote: I agree with Niall. I've written several database-based implementations for resources, and there already exists a Struts plugin for resources that let's our users use commons-resources now (and is backward compatible to Struts 1.1). The only thing commons-resources really suffers from is not having someone give the time to do a release. I feel it is ready, I just don't have the time right now. i'm hoping that's what dormant means: resources is just suffering from a lack of developer time right. i'd definitely support a move back to proper if anyone steps up with the energy to push it to a release. - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 22:04 +, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Demote [reosurces] to dormant status (It's main customer Struts isn't using it now) [ ] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [resources] alive, because... Hi, I use a resources snapshot too and I'd really like it to see a release because it forms a flexible i18n foundation. Probably I should move it higher on my todo list ;-) Christian -- Christian Meder, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Way-Seeking Mind of a tenzo is actualized by rolling up your sleeves. (Eihei Dogen Zenji) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 20:47 +, robert burrell donkin wrote: On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 05:25 -0500, James Mitchell wrote: I agree with Niall. I've written several database-based implementations for resources, and there already exists a Struts plugin for resources that let's our users use commons-resources now (and is backward compatible to Struts 1.1). The only thing commons-resources really suffers from is not having someone give the time to do a release. I feel it is ready, I just don't have the time right now. i'm hoping that's what dormant means: resources is just suffering from a lack of developer time right. i'd definitely support a move back to proper if anyone steps up with the energy to push it to a release. I still prefer the term unmaintained, which is exactly what it currently is. If maintainers appear, then the status can be changed back again. The term dormant *does* mean roughly the same thing, but isn't as clear I think (particularly for non-native English speakers). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 12:23 +1300, Simon Kitching wrote: On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 20:47 +, robert burrell donkin wrote: On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 05:25 -0500, James Mitchell wrote: I agree with Niall. I've written several database-based implementations for resources, and there already exists a Struts plugin for resources that let's our users use commons-resources now (and is backward compatible to Struts 1.1). The only thing commons-resources really suffers from is not having someone give the time to do a release. I feel it is ready, I just don't have the time right now. i'm hoping that's what dormant means: resources is just suffering from a lack of developer time right. i'd definitely support a move back to proper if anyone steps up with the energy to push it to a release. I still prefer the term unmaintained, which is exactly what it currently is. If maintainers appear, then the status can be changed back again. The term dormant *does* mean roughly the same thing, but isn't as clear I think (particularly for non-native English speakers). +1 some words on the website explaining this would be very good... - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 23:22 +0100, Christian Meder wrote: On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 22:04 +, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Demote [reosurces] to dormant status (It's main customer Struts isn't using it now) [ ] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [resources] alive, because... Hi, I use a resources snapshot too and I'd really like it to see a release because it forms a flexible i18n foundation. i'm interested in globalization: combining resources with a scripting language (JEXL, say) to allow expressive multilingural customisation. Probably I should move it higher on my todo list ;-) all we need to folks with time to step up :) - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
On 3/12/06, Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ PS: I'm hoping that someone will volunteer to do the actual svn moves and demotion ;-) snap/ I can do SVN moves (in any direction) as and when volunteers are needed. Sites too, probably, if they build on the first (or second ;-) attempt -- I have the recommended setup. -Rahul Stephen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
Demote [latka] to dormant status (It has no activity and no release) [ ] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [latka] alive, because... Demote [reosurces] to dormant status (It's main customer Struts isn't using it now) [ ] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [resources] alive, because... PS: I'm hoping that someone will volunteer to do the actual svn moves and demotion ;-) Stephen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 22:04 +, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Demote [latka] to dormant status +1 Demote [reosurces] to dormant status (It's main customer Struts isn't using it now) +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephen Colebourne wrote: Demote [latka] to dormant status (It has no activity and no release) [ ] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [latka] alive, because... +1 (non-binding) Demote [reosurces] to dormant status (It's main customer Struts isn't using it now) [ ] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [resources] alive, because... +1 (non-binding) PS: I'm hoping that someone will volunteer to do the actual svn moves and demotion ;-) Stephen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) iD8DBQFEFKB7aCoPKRow/gARApTVAJ0X+W9ZOmNQRGNz7p+xKXc2JX8PewCcCchz HFONy2puuRrC2ki7gywTkh0= =iTKi -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
On 3/12/06, Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Demote [latka] to dormant status +1 Demote [reosurces] to dormant status +1 Are we relegating these to the sandbox, or are we expanding the dormant concept to contain released projects? Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
Henri Yandell wrote: Are we relegating these to the sandbox, or are we expanding the dormant concept to contain released projects? These are unreleased. (Latka has an official alpha - http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_commons-latka.cgi, but this doesn't really count.) Stephen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
i'm not sure that it's a good idea to call this a demotion. hopefully one day some components will actually be finished and graduate to dormant... On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 22:04 +, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Demote [latka] to dormant status (It has no activity and no release) [X] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [latka] alive, because... Demote [reosurces] to dormant status (It's main customer Struts isn't using it now) i use it :) [X] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [resources] alive, because... for some time now, i've wanted to create a globalization library based on resources but it can always be moved back again if i ever get the cycles... - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
On 3/12/06, Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: Are we relegating these to the sandbox, or are we expanding the dormant concept to contain released projects? These are unreleased. (Latka has an official alpha - http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_commons-latka.cgi, but this doesn't really count.) My mistake, I thought resources had a release. Wholehearted +1 to dormancy. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
On 3/13/06, Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Demote [latka] to dormant status (It has no activity and no release) [ ] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [latka] alive, because... +1. As one of the few committers that has worked on latka. Demote [reosurces] to dormant status (It's main customer Struts isn't using it now) [ ] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [resources] alive, because... +0. PS: I'm hoping that someone will volunteer to do the actual svn moves and demotion ;-) Stephen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.multitask.com.au/people/dion/ Chuck Norris sleeps with a night light. Not because Chuck Norris is afraid of the dark, but because the dark is afraid of Chuck Norris
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 14:40 -0800, Henri Yandell wrote: On 3/12/06, Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Demote [latka] to dormant status +1 Demote [reosurces] to dormant status +1 Are we relegating these to the sandbox, or are we expanding the dormant concept to contain released projects? Hmm..what happened to the proposals recently to change the terminology? One proposal was to have active, maintained and unmaintained which I liked. Marking these projects unmaintained (so users know what they are getting into) is really what is happening, yes? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
- Original Message - From: Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 10:04 PM Demote [latka] to dormant status (It has no activity and no release) [ ] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [latka] alive, because... +1 Demote [reosurces] to dormant status (It's main customer Struts isn't using it now) [ ] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [resources] alive, because... -0 Struts hasn't ever used it properly because it was never released. I still think theres a good reason for resources to exist and I would like to work on it. However practical reality is that I'm unlikely to do so, so I'm not going to vote against this, although at this point I would prefer it to remain as it is, rather than demoted back to the sandbox - which I believe practically means its demise. Niall PS: I'm hoping that someone will volunteer to do the actual svn moves and demotion ;-) Stephen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
On 3/12/06, Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Demote [latka] to dormant status (It has no activity and no release) [ ] +1 - Demote +0 [ ] -1 - Keep [latka] alive, because... Demote [reosurces] to dormant status (It's main customer Struts isn't using it now) [ ] +1 - Demote +0 [ ] -1 - Keep [resources] alive, because... PS: I'm hoping that someone will volunteer to do the actual svn moves and demotion ;-) -- Sandy McArthur He who dares not offend cannot be honest. - Thomas Paine - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Demote Latka and Resources to Dormant
Demote [latka] to dormant status (It has no activity and no release) [ ] +1 - Demote +1 Demote [reosurces] to dormant status (It's main customer Struts isn't using it now) +0 cheers -- Torsten smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
