Re: WikiReader - first impressions
FWIW, some info: The SD card delivered with the WikiReader semms to be an 8 GB one, and about 4.2 GB is used. version.txt on the SD card contains this line: VERSION: 200909301702 More info later. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WikiReader - first impressions
Hello again, On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > > Are you running the latest kernel? (The way to tell is if you have > kinetic scrolling, yes == latest kernel) > > > http://cloud.github.com/downloads/wikireader/wikireader/kernel-2009-10-30.zip > > Scrolling is really really good there. > I downloaded the zip file, unpacked it and copied the new kernel.elf to the SD card. That's all I need to do right? I am asking because I don't see a dramtic change in the scrolling. (I do see the kinetic effect, if I quickly move my finger bak and forth) Anyway, scrolling is still very good. :-) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner: different cases?
hello, On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Xavier Formatje wrote: > It's not a new case, but is my approach to the "stylus not in the case" > problem. It's a new back cover design with the stylus integrated. > Wow - very nice! Is it possible to buy this back cover? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to transfer SMS from your old phone?
Hi, On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Jan Vlug wrote: > I would like to transfer my old SMSes from my previous Windows Mobile > phone to my Openmoko FreeRunner. I vaguely remember to have seen > instructions on a user page on the wiki about how to do this. But I > cannot find this page any more. > > Please, let me know how to do this if you know. > Generalized instructions, will possibly work with most phones: 1) export the data - direct way: use the phone built in tools to export / transfer the messages out to a file or somesuch SMS Exporter[1] or Mobile Express[2] can probably be used (never had a windows phone, never used any tool) - indirect way: connect the phone to a computer (PC) and use the phone tools on the PC to export the messages to a file or... 2) import the data on the Openmoko phone - find and use an existing tool that will import messages - or write your own References: 1) http://www.seiz.ch/en/projects/WindowsMobile/index_html/SMSExporter 2) http://www.efficasoft.com/mobileexpress/ -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? > No. I still test stuff on it when time permits. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? > No. Currently, I don't have a PDA. The only thing I need from a PDA is to sync with my calendar at work (Exchange mailbox), and the FreeRunner can't do that (yet?). > What distribution you run most of the time? > QtMoko. Note: I would have tested more distributions had there existed an _easy_ way to boot several distributions (multi-boot) from one SD card. Currently it seems that each distribution requires a different bootloader. > If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change > over to, and why? > Nokia E61, then a Nokia basic model (the E61 died( I never switched _to_ the FreeRunner, because of the short battery life. Having to charge it one or more times during 8 hours is to much hassle for me, and impractical, as I don't carry a computer with me at all times. I really wanted to use the FreeRunner as a GPS (for tracking), but the short battery life (even shorter with GPS active all the time) makes it impractical. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
bootloaders (Was: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 12/30/09, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > I only know about Android needing forked Qi. Which other distro also > requires you to have custom bootloader? > None that I know of. But the main problem is that you can't (as a user) easily multiboot between one image in NAND and sevaral images on SD card. Let's see: - Qi is missing the so-called "multiboot partition" that was proposed to fix this. There has been a few attempts to create a write up that explains how to set up all this, but AFAIk, today there isn't a complete ow-to anywhere. In my eyes, this makes qi incomplete. - uboot has problem with bigger kernels, and besides you still have to configure it by hand for each partition you want to boot (whoever thought that up? an ex-grub developer? Why can't uboot figure out this on its own? Why does it nedd the help of a human for such a simple task?) - you have already mentioned the forked Qi that Android needs. Have I forgotten anything? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bootloaders - part 2 (Was: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Al Johnson wrote: > I guess Android only needs a forked Qi because it needed different boot > parameters, and Qi can't read them from file when booting from NAND. It makes me wonder why the missing functionality (ability to read parameters from a file o something else in nand) wasn't implemented in the main Qi instead of forking it. > I find uboot very easy for multibooting. > > Interesting. Care to tell more about your setup? Which distributions are yu multibooting? Android, SHR, QtMoko, Hackable? One in NAND and three or four on a sd card? If you decide to switch sd card, do you hve to update uboot settings? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] qi-bootmenu-0.1 for GTA02
Hi, On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Marc Andre Tanner wrote: > > I finally found the time to package up my current state of things which > works ok here at least for GTA02. Kernel + Qi can be downloaded from: > Extremely cool! So, for flashing, when my NAND looks like this: neo:~# cat /proc/mtd dev:size erasesize name mtd0: 0020 0001 "physmap-flash.0" mtd1: 0004 0002 "qi" mtd2: 0004 0002 "depr-ub-env" mtd3: 0080 0002 "kernel" mtd4: 000a 0002 "depr" mtd5: 0004 0002 "identity-ext2" mtd6: 0f6a 0002 "rootfs" I should flash the bootloader to the partition named "qi" right? Like: dfu-util -a qi -R -D qi-s3c2442-bootmenu-0.1.udfu and the kernel like so: dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-GTA02-bootmenu-0.1.bin Is this correct? It would be nice if the various distros out there could place their > kernels in /boot/uImage-$MACHINE.bin where $MACHINE is either GTA01 > or GTA02. This makes sure that they will be detected by qi-bootmenu. > Seems QtMoko is already doing this: neo:~# ls -l /boot total 1818 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1852364 Oct 2 21:28 uImage-GTA02.bin You can optionally also place a logo in /boot/bootlogo.png which > will be displayed along the partition name. > Cool. :) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v22
Hi, The new version appears to work fine here (just a quick test so far). BTW, my Ubuntu laptop (Xubuntu 9.10) exhibits a strange symptom: each time I connect my FR, the network interface name increases: eg. it started out with 'eth9' (what happened with usb0?), the next time I connected the FR the interface was 'eth10', then 'eth11', 'eth12' and so on. What gives? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] qi-bootmenu-0.1 for GTA02
Hello, I finally found time to test this. Without a SD card in my FR, I only get the power off button. Cool! I hav a SD card partitioned like this: /dev/mmcblk0p1 - vfat, for storage /dev/mmcblk0p2 - ext3, QtMoko V22 /dev/mmcblk0p3 - ext3, QtMoko V23 /dev/mmcblk0p4 - swap with the SD card inserted, I see no bootmenu - it just boots /dev/mmcblk0p2 every time. What's wrong? On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Marc Andre Tanner wrote: > Hi, > > I finally found the time to package up my current state of things which > works ok here at least for GTA02. Kernel + Qi can be downloaded from: > > http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/qi-bootmenu/ > > It would be nice if the various distros out there could place their > kernels in /boot/uImage-$MACHINE.bin where $MACHINE is either GTA01 > or GTA02. This makes sure that they will be detected by qi-bootmenu. > You can optionally also place a logo in /boot/bootlogo.png which > will be displayed along the partition name. > > As for GTA01 support I'm playing around with a 2.6.32 based kernel > but with the initramfs embedded the result is to big ~2.4M. So we > need to shrink it by 400K to fit into the kernel partition. Not yet > sure how this should be done without either losing features (usb > network access for example) or repartitioning NAND (dropping the > uboot splash screen partition) but I personally don't want to take > the latter route, so we will see... > > Thanks, > Marc > > -- > Marc Andre Tanner >< http://www.brain-dump.org/ >< GPG key: CF7D56C0 > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- mvh Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] qi-bootmenu-0.1 for GTA02
Hi, On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Al Johnson wrote: > On Friday 14 May 2010, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > Hello, > > I finally found time to test this. > > Without a SD card in my FR, I only get the power off button. Cool! > > I hav a SD card partitioned like this: > > /dev/mmcblk0p1 - vfat, for storage > > /dev/mmcblk0p2 - ext3, QtMoko V22 > > /dev/mmcblk0p3 - ext3, QtMoko V23 > > /dev/mmcblk0p4 - swap > > > > with the SD card inserted, I see no bootmenu - it just boots > /dev/mmcblk0p2 > > every time. > > What's wrong? > > You forgot to tell Qi not to boot from the SD partitions. See: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Files > > According to the readme[1] on the qi-bootmenu site, it is not necessary to mark the SD paryitions as not bootable: "The patches which are applied are thus not strictly necessary but they have a few advantages over vanilla Qi. - You won't have to mark your SD-card partition as not bootable via noboot-$MACHINE files" I found out that I could get the boot menu to show up if I did the "AUX press" move, but IMHO, that defeats the puprpose of the boot loader. I want it to show up automatically, each time I boot my FR. References: 1) http://repo.or.cz/w/qi-bootmenu-system.git/blob_plain/HEAD:/README -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v22
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:31 PM, mobi phil wrote: > the uImage-v22.bin is 2.6.29 isn't it? > Yes, QtMoko V22 has this kernel: neo:~# uname -a Linux neo 2.6.29-rc3-v21 #10 Tue Apr 6 22:54:31 CEST 2010 armv4tl GNU/Linux was not following for a while the list... could anybody tell me where > I could find a 2.6.32.bin? > QtMoko V23 (testing) has this kernel: neo:~# uname -a Linux neo 2.6.32v20 #16 Tue May 4 21:11:16 CEST 2010 armv4tl GNU/Linux HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qi-bootmenu-0.1 for GTA02
Hi, On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Dave Ball wrote: > > This is the case if you have installed Marc's patched Qi. Which is this one , yes? http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/qi-bootmenu/qi-s3c2442-bootmenu-0.1.udfu > If your freerunner is booting from SD card by default, and only > displaying the bootmenu when pressing AUX while booting, then you're > still using standard qi rather than the patched version. > But how can it be, when I have installed the above qi? I even downloaded and installed it again, just to make sure. Still, the AUX press is needed. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qi-bootmenu-0.1 for GTA02
Hi, On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Jens Seidel wrote: > Questions: > flash partitions are not scanned? Why? > I don't know, the last paragraph of the README is: "The NAND partition is ignored by the bootmenu because Qi will pass the required parameters on the kernel command line this reduces boot time because mounting an jffs2 file system is slow." I am not really sure what meaning the author is trying to get to the reader here. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v22
Hi, On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Al Johnson wrote: > On Saturday 22 May 2010, Linus Gasser wrote: > > Le 14.05.10 23:28, Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit : > > > Hi, > > > > > > The new version appears to work fine here (just a quick test so far). > > > BTW, my Ubuntu laptop (Xubuntu 9.10) exhibits a strange symptom: each > > > time I connect my FR, the network interface name increases: > > > eg. it started out with 'eth9' (what happened with usb0?), the next > time > > > I connected the FR the interface was 'eth10', then 'eth11', 'eth12' and > > > so on. What gives? > > > > Same here on MacOSX10.5, if somebody has a solution for that problem, it > > would be great... > > A randomly assigned MAC address would probably do that. Check whether it's > different each time you get a different ethX. Nice theaory, but the MAC address is consistent all the time: [11317.984463] eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:0d:39 [11318.092042] udev: renamed network interface eth1 to eth9 [11328.293019] eth9: no IPv6 routers present [18287.197308] eth9: unregister 'cdc_ether' usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device [18444.245380] eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:0d:39 [18444.303889] udev: renamed network interface eth1 to eth10 [18454.737021] eth10: no IPv6 routers present [18845.694406] eth10: unregister 'cdc_ether' usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device [19086.795400] eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:0d:39 [19086.831189] udev: renamed network interface eth1 to eth11 [19097.128157] eth11: no IPv6 routers present [19551.746854] eth11: unregister 'cdc_ether' usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device [19688.926889] eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:0d:39 [19688.955066] udev: renamed network interface eth1 to eth12 [19698.976064] eth12: no IPv6 routers present [20157.117309] eth12: unregister 'cdc_ether' usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device [20461.402924] eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:0d:39 [20461.444637] udev: renamed network interface eth1 to eth13 [20471.792055] eth13: no IPv6 routers present [24397.170339] eth13: unregister 'cdc_ether' usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device [24417.319627] eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:0d:39 [24417.373764] udev: renamed network interface eth1 to eth14 [24425.441322] eth14: unregister 'cdc_ether' usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device [24427.792533] eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:0d:39 [24427.822051] udev: renamed network interface eth1 to eth15 [24438.289131] eth15: no IPv6 routers present [61417.122323] eth15: unregister 'cdc_ether' usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device [69011.133835] eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:0d:39 [69011.617916] udev: renamed network interface eth1 to eth16 [69022.348130] eth16: no IPv6 routers present [69263.593382] eth16: unregister 'cdc_ether' usb-:00:1d.1-1, CDC Ethernet Device Any other suggestions? FWIW, the last time I used my FR with QtMoko (v14) it didn't behave like this, and I don't see why it should start now. I think its more likely that Ubuntu is the "sinner" here. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v22
Hi, On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > It is a probolem of the OM kernel that provides a random Mac address > Now, why would the OM kernel do a stupid thing like that? More to the point: why would it change MAC address every time I connect my FR to my machine, even if I have not rebooted the FR in the meantime? As you can see from my other post in this thread, the MAC address is consistent, som something else is going on here. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v22
Hi, On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:51 PM, arne anka wrote: > if it happens with both an ubuntu box and macos x, it's most likely caused > by the fr. > nevertheless, on ubuntu you may try to set > > udevadm control --log-priority=debug > > and watch the log for more information. > I might try this later. > another idea that occurs to me: is the interface always correctly shut > down? > I think so (but I just disconnect the FR when I'm done, like I always have done it). > what does > > ifconfig -a > It says that there are network interfaces eth0, wlan0, wmaster0, pan0 and lo0 (wired, wireless and bluetooth, pus local) and now eth18 (usb to my FR). is there something in > /etc/network/interfaces > I think it is okay: ti...@kg-home:~$ more /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v22
Hi,
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:53 PM, arne anka wrote:
> i forgot:
> what does
> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
> look like?
>
Now, this is an interesting file. Here are a few lines:
# This file maintains persistent names for network interfaces.
# See udev(7) for syntax.
#
# Entries are automatically added by the 75-persistent-net-generator.rules
# file; however you are also free to add your own entries.
# PCI device 0x14e4:0x169d (tg3)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:16:36:54:a9:ae", ATTR{type}=="1", KERN
EL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"
# PCI device 0x8086:0x4222 (iwl3945)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:13:02:3e:d4:ce", ATTR{type}=="1", KERN
EL=="wlan*", NAME="wlan0"
# USB device 0x1457:0x5122 (usb)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:1f:11:01:0d:39", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0",
ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth9"
# USB device 0x1457:0x5122 (usb)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:1f:11:01:0d:39", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0",
ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth10"
# USB device 0x1457:0x5122 (usb)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:1f:11:01:0d:39", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0",
ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth11"
# USB device 0x1457:0x5122 (usb)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:1f:11:01:0d:39", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0",
ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth12"
# USB device 0x1457:0x5122 (usb)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:1f:11:01:0d:39", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0",
ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth13"
# USB device 0x0525:0xa4a1 (usb)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:1f:11:01:0d:39", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0",
ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth14"
# USB device 0x0525:0xa4a2 (usb)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:1f:11:01:0d:39", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0",
ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth15"
# USB device 0x0525:0xa4a2 (usb)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:1f:11:01:0d:39", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0",
ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth16"
I had a look at /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules but
didn't find anything "funky".
--
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Re: QtMoko v24 for GTA01
Hello, I have a Neo 1973. Use? Well, it gets as much use as my FreeRunner - ie not much. Mainly testing etc. Anyway, I installed QtMoko V24 on it, for testing. The first time I booted it, it came up fine, QT with screen calibration, asked for the timezone (which I couldn't set to Europe/Oslo, but I guess that is releated to the removed zoneinfos), then it aborted / killed X. And after that, it will not start X again, no matter what I try. On the console of the Neo 1973, I can read this message: "qx_helper: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directoy Aborted" It doesn't seem like this file is on there: neo:~# find / -name 'libX11.so*' -print neo:~# Stopping and starting Qtopia gives the same result: neo:~# /etc/init.d/qpe.sh stop neo:~# /etc/init.d/qpe.sh start neo:~# qx_helper: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Aborted I don't know what's wrong. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Neo 1973 - how to figure out if the battery is broken?
Mye Neo 1973 is now running QtMoko V24 (thanks Radek!). Now I would like to figi\ure out if the battery is good or broken. But I'm gettng confused here: (the red LED is not on) neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity 100 neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charge_now 85 neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/status Charging neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/type Battery neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now 4189000 neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/current_now -287000 neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/present 1 neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charge_full 85 What should I look for? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo 1973 - how to figure out if the battery is broken?
Hi, On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Torfinn Ingolfsen writes: > > neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/current_now > > -287000 > > According to this it is being charged. Why are you worried? > Mainly because it runs out very quickly. :-) But it could just be drained. Where can I find out the meaning of the different files in /sys/class/power_supply/battery ? For example, I would thing that these two: neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charge_full 85 neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charge_now 85 would represent full charge and current charge, but according to this that must be the wrong interpretation: neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/status Charging neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/current_now -308000 -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v24 for GTA01
Hi, On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Radek Polak wrote: > Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > > asked for the timezone (which I couldn't set to Europe/Oslo, but I guess > > that is releated to the removed zoneinfos) > > Yes, it's because of it. > > > And after that, it will not start X again, no matter what I try. > > On the console of the Neo 1973, I can read this message: > > "qx_helper: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot > open > > shared object file: no such file or directoy Aborted" > > It doesn't seem like this file is on there: > > neo:~# find / -name 'libX11.so*' -print > > neo:~# > > This is because i havent installed X in this image at all. You can do it > manually with apt-get but i guess it will exceed the space. 64MB is ok for > featured phone, but not for full blown debian. Maybe running from SD card > could solve it. > Ok. I don't think I need X, so that's not a problem. But why isn't Qtopia starting? I'm not experienced enough to use the phone from the command line yet. :-) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v24 for GTA01
Hi, On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Radek Polak wrote: > Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > > Ok. I don't think I need X, so that's not a problem. > > But why isn't Qtopia starting? > > I'm not experienced enough to use the phone from the command line yet. > :-) > > Ahh ok, so the whole phone application does not start? It could be usefull > to > ssh to the phone and do: > > /etc/init.d/qpe.sh stop > source /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env > qpe > > and see what it prints. > Here goes: neo:~# /etc/init.d/qpe.sh stop neo:~# source /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env neo:/root# qpe NeoKbdDriverPlugin:create() Before call NeoKbdHandler() NeoBattery::NeoBattery 64638 0 Initializing the modem failed. Aborted neo:/root# Hmm, I don't have a SIM-card in the phone. Is that going to be a problem? -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v24 for GTA01
Hi, On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Radek Polak wrote: > On Sunday 06 June 2010 14:08:24 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > > Hmm, I don't have a SIM-card in the phone. Is that going to be a problem? > > That can be - i tried with SIM and it was working. I also sometimes get > this > message when battery is very low - probably not enough power for modem. > I think it's the battery. I tried it with the battery from my FR, and then the Neo 1973 works (without SIM card). Here is the output with the FR battery: neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/uevent PHYSDEVPATH=/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0008/gta01_battery PHYSDEVBUS=platform PHYSDEVDRIVER=gta01_battery POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=battery POWER_SUPPLY_TYPE=Battery POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1 POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Charging POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=4054000 POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=-234000 POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=92 POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=85 POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=739500 With the (broken?) 1973 battery it looks like this: neo:~# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/uevent PHYSDEVPATH=/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0008/gta01_battery PHYSDEVBUS=platform PHYSDEVDRIVER=gta01_battery POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=battery POWER_SUPPLY_TYPE=Battery POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1 POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Charging POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=4183000 POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=-287000 POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=100 POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=85 POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=85 Also, the battery in the 1973 have a "bulge" to it now. :-) Perhaps best if I don't use it at all. -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo 1973 - how to figure out if the battery is broken?
Update: I tested the Neo 1973 with the battery from my FR - and it works properly then. Also, the battery in my 1973 is "bulging" - I think it is safe to aasume it is broken. :-) On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 12:28 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Torfinn Ingolfsen writes: > > Mainly because it runs out very quickly. :-) > > Wasn't that a feature in 1973? ;) > > What's the consumption (=current_now) right after resume? > > -Timo > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Neo 1973 - new battery?
Where can I find a new battery for my Neo 1973? It is better if it is cheap, and it must charge in the phone. So I guess BL-5C's are a no-go. -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo 1973 - new battery?
Hi, On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Where can I find a new battery for my Neo 1973? > It is better if it is cheap, and it must charge in the phone. > Hmm, is this store any good? http://www.batteryupgrade.com/shopBrowser.php?shopGroupId=97110036#/shopGroupId/97110036 Anybody have experience with them? -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Niels Heyvaert wrote: > Why is AoF is not even mentioned in the distro list is a mystery to me. > > Believe we should pollute this list more often with pure AoF related topics > to keep reminding people it also exists ;-) AoF? This one? http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/ I didn't know about it. Thanks! -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [WikiReader] 32GB microSD card works
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Doug Jones wrote: > I am testing a 32GB card in my WikiReader. Thanks for the update - very useful information. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Use of a FreeRunner
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Ed Kapitein wrote: > Hi Phil, > > I did the same thing, but It is of limited use, a lot of mail is in HTML > format and hard to convert to SMS. > Also, you need to strip the headers etc. > So you might want to write a script first and run it on real-life mails, > before you put effort in reconfiguring the freerunner. Like these? http://beaker.mailchimp.com/html-to-text http://journals.jevon.org/users/jevon-phd/entry/19818 http://www.chuggnutt.com/html2text http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/11902/Convert-HTML-to-Plain-Text in Python http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13337528/rendered-html-to-plain-text-using-python http://love-python.blogspot.no/2011/04/html-to-text-in-python.html lynx can also be used. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WikiReader
On 07/25/2016 12:56, David Feugey wrote: > Hi all. > > I'll like to get a copy of the latest files needed to use the WikiReader. > There are torrent files, but they are all inactive... I'm not sure which files you are looking for. I have base-20121207.7z, it can be downloaded from the link in [1]. HTH References: 1) https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2Sc5Qa5d_tLdHIyRW51aDRVMm8 -- Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)
Hello, On Jan 12, 2008 7:42 AM, Jeff Andros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > agreed... plus how often does a consumer ready phone get rebooted? last > time I did mine was to swap the sim card into my neo > In my experience it is like this: Nokia phones needs to be rebooted every week. This has been true for all Nokia phones I have used, and is also true for the Nokia E61 I'm currently using. If not rebooted, some functions of the phone will fail. For the E61, it suddenly starts to say "disk full" when I try to sync email onto it. After a reboot it is fine again. I have only used a few Sony-Ericsson phones, but they tend to only need reboot every two weeks. My latest experience was the K710, it did all sorts of funny things if it was not rebooted. Like - the alarm didn't work, - outgoing calls failed, - ringing didn't work and so on. IMO, rebooting a phone shouldn't be necessary during normal use. I am hoping that any phone running OpenMoko will be much, much better in this area.. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re[2]: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)
Hello, On Jan 12, 2008 5:34 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, we left that in on purpose -- especially for the geeks. Of course, > it's > scheduled for removal in a consumer-only release (whenever that may > come) release. Well I guess you just can't please everyone :/ > Easy to fix - leave it (boot scroll) as an option that can be turned on by the user, preferably in a geeky way involving shell and the virtual keyboard. :-) And we want the matrix screensaver too. :-) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Congratulations Harald!
Hi, On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Community > > Not sure if you've already seen this... > >http://lwn.net/Articles/274173/ > > A great honor handed down to a true freedom fighter! > > Sean Thanks for sharing this. And congratulations to Harald - well deserved! -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometer brainstorming
Hello, On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are roundabouts in tunnels an April fool? Never encountered one. No, roundabouts in tunnels are real - we even have one or two such tunnels here in Norway. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen Norway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: oredring the Freerunner as an research item
Hello, On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:53 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > i'll look into it, but this country by country selective processing is > defeating the purpose. If this is valid for other countries, perhaps such a letter / note could be added to every 10 pack you send out? (If the same letter / note can be used for all cases, of course) Granted, I don't know how much overhead in packaging this would incur. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen Norway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: oredring the Freerunner as an research item
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:27 PM, ramsesoriginal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as I know, this holds true for many countries. I used to work Ok. Does anyone have an example of the text needed? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Europe: ordering Freerunner direct from Openmoko?
Hello, For us european users: will it be possible to order Frerunner directly from Openmoko? The way it looks now, this would be the most attractive solution from a cost point of view, at leat for us here in Norway. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thoughts about calls not taken
Hi, On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Stefan Misch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I have an idea going through my mind about rejecting phone calls. Personally, I only use rejects if I ewant the calling party to *know* that I have rejected the call. For most cases, I prefer the "ignore" button, which just tuns off sound (and vibration if enabled). Thus the caller (salesman, unknown numder, etc) only knows that I didn't answer. > What are your thoughts about this? What I would like is a general filter mechanism, kind of like an email spam filter, which would let me filter on any number of arguments (calling number, called number (if we ever get multiple numbers on our mobile phones), presence status (and calendar busy / free status), time, and more). And I should be able to program any possible action for my filters, like - direct to voicemail, call forward, call reject, and so on. Anyway, that is what I wish for. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thoughts about calls not taken
Hi, > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Calling_Features > has had all of these thoughts for some time. I know. :) But it helps writing them up here in the mailing list from time to time, so people don't forget them. :) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Our new Main page of wiki
Hi, On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Dirk Deimeke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Plus thinking about the page beeing viewed mostly from users with Linux on > their machines (web server stats anyone?). So it should be reviewed with > linux or at least with an alternative browser. Ideally, it should be reviewed on as many platforms as possible (by "platform" in this context I refer to a specific browser on a specific device / operating system), in addition to the "usual ones" (well-known browsers on Linux / *BSD / windows) things like Opera mini[1] on mobile devices, the browser on Neo, and so on should also be used to view the web pages. I guess the community must help with this. Other than that, web pages should be designed to work the way they were intended to; automatically adaptable to any web browser, no matter what size or format it might be. Just my 2 eurocents. References: 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_mini -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Software
Hi,
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Mike Baroukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> About this, I was wondering if there was possibility to have cron like
> tasks even if the phone is suspended ?
You could always run something like anacron{1] on the phone. As long
as yoy don't keep you phone suspended for a day or more that would
work. :-)
References:
1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacron
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Re: Funny Dialer
Hi, On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Matt Mets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm assuming you mean what we call a rotary phone in the US? I'm working on > one... Here is a screenshot: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cibomahto/2458507254/ > > It's just a mock-up program at the moment though, no hooks to the actual > dialer. Two suggestions for a rotary dialer that your might or might not like: 1) a mode where the dialer looks like a rotary dialer, but operates as a normal dialer, ie. when you press a number the digit is sent 2) a "cheat mode" - when you press a number the dialer automatically turns and returns. Of course it sends the digit as well. :-) The rotary dialer could even be made to have the sound of a mechanical dialer for the truly nostalgic. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...
Hi, On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Wilkinson, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >0n Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:39:48AM +0200, Federico Lorenzi wrote: > >>Should work, FreeBSD supports cdce, which is a USB ethernet gadget. > > What is "cdce" ? cdce[1] is the ethernet -over-usb driver in FreeBSD. To test it, you can do 'kldload if_cdce', then see the man page. Last time I tested it, it worked without problems. References: 1) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=cdce&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASE&format=html -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android (Re: Qtopia Vs. GTK or both?)
Hi, On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Arnout Engelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 12:25:26AM +0400, t3st3r wrote: >> and Dalvik VM is actually, proprietary. > > Hmm, do you have any references to support that claim? That'd suck, > Dalvik looks pretty interesting (also for Openmoko). There are a few indications at least http://www.retrodev.com/android/dexformat.html http://code.google.com/android/kb/licensingandoss.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_virtual_machine http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/c4a8b4d97f408b17/f469cfe03cc49b25 (in no particular order) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: IGES & STEP CAD file issues
Hi, On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Philip Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pro/E Wildfire 3.0 and 2.0 were available as native Linux > applications. If you could get a trial of one of those, I am sure you > will have much more success. For people who are curious, here is a bit of info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProEngineer I couldn't find a trial / demo version, though. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSoC projects
Hello, On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:19 AM, ramsesoriginal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there. > Reading through the GSoC updates, i saw that (atl least) two used > "Markov Model ". I have no idea what that is, or how it's used, It is amazing what you can find on the Internet with a little effort: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markov_model -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: why infrared should be added to GTA03
Hi, On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Ron K. Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have not (yet) invested in one of those expensive > universal remote control thingies. But I really > lust after that functionality when I fight THREE > controls (sat TV, DVD player, TV, not to mention > a separate audio system control) Too bad that bluetooth is absent on most consumer devices today. But perhaps you could make something with bluetooth and IR blasters. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FreeRunner - import Contacts
Hello, What are the options (if any) for importing contacts into the contacts database on a FreeRunner? Will be getting my FR in a few days, time to prepare. My phone contacts currently reside in a Nokia mobile phone, but I also have a backup copy in and Outlook folder at work, and from there I have various export possibilities (for example csv). -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner - import Contacts
Hi, Thanks for the instructions. I'll see what I can Google up. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Dennis Wollersheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > - From my hazy memory doing this with the Neo, there are 2 options, depending > on what image you are using. If you are using the qtopia image, I think > you need to get the contacts into qtopia image somehow. I think the > shipping image uses evolution format; just get your contacts into > evolution on the desktop, then scp the evolution databases across to your Ok, I'm not using Evolution on my desktop, but I'll see what I can find out. If anyone else knows the specific format used, feel free to inform me and others. :-) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]
Hello, On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Joachim Steiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > fwd, please answer to community@ > 2) Remove 'device-owners'. Please keep device-owners and community. The way I see it, the community list is a thriving discussion place for the whole community, which is good. But device-owners is a place for more specific questions, and it has lower traffic which is good for getting answers quickly. Just my opinion. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]
Hello, On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:40 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Please keep device-owners and community. > > shouldn't community members and device owners more or less be congruent, > now the freerunner is in the world? Possibly. My observation is that any (ok, most) threads on the community mailinglist tend to evolve into a lot of 1) wishes for things that aren't in the devices today 2) requests / demands that things should be done differently which is good for future, but not so ood for specific question about current devices and current software. Aside from that, groups of peaple are never congruent - in any given group you will find as many opinions as there are people. :) > and who of the newlyweds joined device-owners? i for one, didn't -- > because i don't want to split my time and attention between multiple > groups, basically addressing the same audience. Well, it depends on what information you want. If you skip device-owners, you miss a lot of specific information about the devices and software, and the testing that owners do. I find that useful enough that I invest the little time extra to read that mailinglist as well. YMMV, of course. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: questions about our mailinglists
Hi, On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:08 AM, Matt Joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Dear Community > Would there be any support for prefixing the subject with the list names ? > eg [openmoko-community] > It's a trivial enough to implement with Mailman (the system being used). No, please don't do that. I repeat: please do not mess with the subject lines! To see why, look at the list archives about a year back. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: questions about our mailinglists
Hello, On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:44 PM, matt joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you elaborate please (not for the sake of debate, I'm just curious No, I'm not going to restart that discussion. The last time it lasted for more than a month, wasting lots of time for anybody reading this list, and even more for those participating in the discussion. -- Regards Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Better keyboard?
Hello, On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Konstantin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, there is: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards FWIW, In the future, I wish (as a user of Openmoko devices (currently 1973 and FreeRunner)) to install any number of (available) keyboards at the same time. Then I can change keyboards (using an extra key on the keyboard perhaps? Or a menu choice?) whenever I like. That would be nice. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Presentation and some questions about flashing Freerunner
Hello, On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Opening USB Device 0x:0x... > No such Alternate Setting: "kernel" Are you doing your flashing as root? (on Ubuntu, that would be using 'sudo' before any dfu-util command)? I seem to recall that if I didn't use sudo, I got that last error message. If so, it probably means that your normal user doesn't have access to all the needed parts of the usb subsystem on the machine wher you run dfu-util. I always use sudo (I'm on Ubuntu). HTH -- Regrds Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accessing the freerunner filesystem
Hello, On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Kalle Happonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > I was wondering what the easiest way to access freerunner's filesystem > from a computer. Or just copy over files. If i got the wlan up, it would For me, the easiest way is usb networking and ssh / scp. > could probably copy it over to the flash card on the laptop, but that > also means removing the battery and sim for every change. Yes, removing the microSD card is very inconvenient. Note for future devices: add a SD card slt that is easily accessible (extrnally?). -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS
Hello, On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Alexander Paersch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have the same problem that my Freerunner can't acquire a fix without > a external GPS antenna. Can any external GPS antenna (with the right connector of course) be used? > Just today I stumbled upon a page on the openmoko wiki: > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_GPS_antenna_repair_SOP > > Anybody tried this fix and can report whether this realy fixes the issue? FWIW, I took apart my FreeRunner and checked the GPS connector on the cable and the mainboard. It looked good to me. I didn't disassemble the GP board itself. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: In the press
Hi, On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Scott Derrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my opinion , the Wiki sucks Respectfully, I disagree. > Very difficult to find any useful information. Usually, I can find the information I am looking for with one or two searches on te wiki, for me, that's good enough. Also remember that each and one of us can improve the wiki. Yes, you can do it yourself. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Got it!
Hello, On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:27 AM, C R McClenaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I was waiting for UPS, I made this partial attempt at a port of > OpenMoko to my other phone ... > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:WaitingForMyNeoFreeRunner.jpg > Hope I haven't violated any rule on either side -) Owning an iPhone is a bad sign - you have too little ambition in life. :-) :):) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Kai Stian Olstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On my device: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat > /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/status > Charging On mine too: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Fri Jul 11 01:16:56 CEST 2008 armv4tl unknown [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/version 200807110147 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/status Charging [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any update on Windows connectivity yet?
Hello, On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:32 PM, ian douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of my bulk order buyers has prompted a question about whether there > have been any advances with connecting a Freerunner to a Windows PC? > > Last I tried mine on an XP laptop, it detected a device but wanted > drivers to communicate. The "driver" is just an .inf file to set up RNDIS networking. I used the procedure described here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_and_Windows see " USB Ethernet emulation". It works both for my 1973 and FreeRunner. HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth long in the tooth?
Hello, On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Ken Restivo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# echo "1" > > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on > 0 > > Huh? Looks like "user error" to me: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# echo 1 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
Hello, On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:42 PM, thomasg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We'll do more tests later, but for now we surely know what's causing the > problem (and it seems to be a EMC problem). Why does people seem to think it's an EMC problem? Ill hazard a guess here (and I haven't even seen the schematics for the device); it is probably a voltage or current problem. When the SD card is in, it draws power, causing the voltage to something in the GSM circuit (for example, the antenna selctor circuit) to change. Or current. > Testresults from other people appreciated. Well, I am currently inside (it's raining), but on the SS screen of openmoko-agpsui I now have 13 (yes, thirteen) blue bars, most of them above 150 dBm. Before (with the SD card in) I never even had one blue bar on the ss screen. Great work discovering this. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
More info. I have tested outside now. Typical TTFF for my device (FreeRunner) is in the range 41 - 57 seconds. That is after power on FreeRunner, start openmoko-agpsui, "press START button" (which is actually named "power on"). Now the FreeRunner even can see satellites when I'm inside of my apartment (after getting a fix outside). Even Diversity works - nice. I am still using this image[1]. References: 1) http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080710/Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080710-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: In the press. "The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation."
Hello, On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right now I'm happy to edit Wikipedia or OpenStreetMaps, but not the > Openmoko wiki and I'm not sure why that is. I've seen something FWIW, what I do if I don't feel comfortable enough editing a page on the (Openmoko) wiki - I simply add my comments to the discussion for that page. Then someone else can read it and do the edit of the actual page, if they feel that my comments / suggestions are good. Of course, this only works if somebody else actually reads the discussions for the pages... HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: In the press
Hello, On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well thats definitely a very nice proposal, but I would like to hold > off a bit on recreating a whole new wiki .. what I had in mind was > more of a blog/feed style site, not necessarily another wiki setup .. As have been said before in this thread: what we (the Openmoko community) need is a wiki editors group. Any volunteers? The wiki editors group would help each other (and other contributors) to improve the wiki, by creating information management, writing and style guidelines, guiding and teaching wiki contributors, and editing the wiki itself. Initially, the group could consist of the people most active in editing the wiki already. Further recruitment could be based on quality and quantity of contributions to the wiki. Of course the Wiki editors would have a "hall of fame" page on the wiki that would describe the tasks that the group do, list the names of the editors (and perhaps what period they acted in that role?) and so on Any volunteers now? Anyway, just an idea. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: In the press
Hello, On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Josh Monson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I will volunteer a few hours each week towards this. > > Editing, cleanup, moving content, updating content, organization, > etc. > > I'm in. > > John Reese or Torfinn are you 2 also volunteering? That would make 3. > Who else? We need a list of names so we can start firing this project I would be happy to just be a contributor. :-) But hey, I can spend a few hours every week on this task as well. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
Hello, On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So we can assume this is pretty confirmed by quite some reports now. > Thanks to community for the awesome help on this! And from a community member to you and the rest of the Openmoko team; thanks for keeping us so well updated (so "in the loop"). Much appreciated! -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki editors
Hi, On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:42 AM, ian douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Shiloh wrote: >> +1 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > +1 here Yes, this gets my vote too. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki editors
Hello, On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think we're pretty close to consensus here. Let's set up the list and > move on. > > If each of the original volunteers agree I will request a list with the > title "wiki" to be set up. Please each of you indicate your agreement > (or not) on the following list: I agree. BTW, has anyone asked Brenda if she wants in on this? And have time for it? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
Hello, On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:12 PM, BlueStar88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Almost > all (very rough assumption) GTA02-people are having this issue now, even > GTA01-users are coming out with confirmations, so why it was not detected > (nor digged deeper) by personal full range use before mass production? Being the owner of both a 1973 (GTA01) and a FreeRunner (GTA02) I can tell you my experience: the 1973 was my first GPS device ever, so I didn't have anything to compare with. After getting the necessary software on the phone (gllin etc.) and configured correctly, the GPS was working correctly, getting TTFF in a few minutes. So there was no problem with the 1973 to report. > Before someone suggests: I don't like the 'fallback' idea of using an > external antenna, since it is very unhandy for bike and walk usage. Nobody wants an external antenna for a permanent solution, and I guess nobody suggested that either. They only suggested the external antenna as part of trying to figure out the problem. > My current thoughts are two sided. On one side I don't like to hurt the > really great (!) project by returning the hardware. On the other side I > fear, that this issue cannot be fixed to have the initially expected > behavior. It seems to me like many (ok, some) people on this list are fearful people. People, why are you fearing so much? Are we not pioneers of the open source mobile phone revolution? Sure, the sky could fall on our heads tomorrow, but pioneers have no time or that way of thinking. Pioneers are smart and positive people - anything is possible. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem in logging in freerunner through ssh
Hello, On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I keep the following command in my .bash_profile: > > alias ssg="ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/ > dev/null" Ah. That's very useful. Thanks for sharing! -- Regards Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Import contacts qtopia
Hello, On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Ole Kliemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > could be helpful if one were able to convert VCF to sqlite. > > Any hints appreciated. This one imports .CSV at least: http://sqlitebrowser.sourceforge.net/ HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
Hello, 2008/7/19 Tobias Diedrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Looking at the Freerunner connector, it looks like it's really a > Mini-B Female connector instead of the Mini-AB Female connector as > stated on > http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware > > Can someone else confirm this? Yes. See http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Package_Contents HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
Hello, On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > anyone knows if the software patch which was done has any hooks in user > space so the same procedure (shut off SD while getting FF) could be > initiated manually (from a script or so)? AFAIK, the patch doesn't work that way - ie there is no "shut off SD card while we do something else" procedure. Instead the SD card is shut off (ie. clock disabled) when it is idle. So as long as you avoid reading from or writing to the SD card you should be fine. HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeBSD / dfu-util
Hello, On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Ben Cadieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I got dfu-util to compile using the OSX patch for endian.h & byteswap.h. Which FreeBSD version and arch (i386? amd64?) Did you just follow the OS X procedure, or something else? > developers of something unrelated to be ported to FBSD...is there > anyone that would like to take a crack at this? Well I could help out with testing and bug-finding at least. i have both amd64 and i386 FreeBSD machines. They normally run FreeBSD 7.0-stable, but can also run FreeBSD 6.3-stable if needed. Ideally, I would like to be able to run both dfu-util and the Openmoko development environment under FreeBSD. Just because it sjuold be possible. :-) HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FR - ASU image - keyboard with wrong characters
Hello,
First of all - I'm not really sure if this "report" belongs on the
support list or here. I'll try here first.
I have been running this image[1] on my FreeRunner for a while now. If
I have gotten my understanding right, this is the ASU image.
Anyway, today I did a 'opkg update' followed by a 'opkg upgrade'. The
upgrade went fine, and I rebooted my FR.
I now have:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uname -a
Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jul 23 06:34:19 CEST 2008 armv4tl unknown
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/angstrom-version
Angstrom P1-Snapshot-20080722
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/om-version
Tag Name:
VERSION: 1d2ffa9abf4464c9ae0d31ee1ca697aaaeb7a81c
Branch: org.openmoko.dev
Build Host: buildhost.openmoko.org
Time Stamp: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:49:30 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/version
200807110147
I noticed something funny when the PIN code dialog for the SIM card
came up: not all keys on the keyboard produce the correct characters.
On the numbers "panel" of the keuboard (fr lack of a better word)*,
the key row 1 -0 produces these characters:123456{[]}
All other keys produces the correct character, as far as I can determine.
Does anybody know how to fix this?
BTW, I really, really miss a backspace key on this keyboard.
References:
1)
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080710/Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080710-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
--
Regards,
Torfinn Ingolfsen
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Re: FR - ASU image - keyboard with wrong characters
More info. On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, today I did a 'opkg update' followed by a 'opkg upgrade'. The > upgrade went fine, and I rebooted my FR. I repeated 'opkg update' and 'opkg upgrade' The upgrade part produced some errors, but I don't know if they are important or not: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg upgrade Upgrading e-wm on root from 0.16.999.042+cvs20080710-r10 to 0.16.999.042+cvs20080722-r10... Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/e-wm_0.16.999.042+cvs20080722-r10_armv4t.ipk Installing efreet (1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080722-r0) to root... Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/efreet_0.5.0.043+cvs20080722-r0_armv4t.ipk Upgrading illume on root from 0.0+svnr133-r6 to 0.0+svnr152-r6... Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr152-r6_armv4t.ipk Installing efreet (1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080722-r0) to root... Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/efreet_0.5.0.043+cvs20080722-r0_armv4t.ipk Upgrading libefreet-mime0 on root from 1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080710-r0 to 1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080722-r0... Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/libefreet-mime0_0.5.0.043+cvs20080722-r0_armv4t.ipk Installing efreet (1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080722-r0) to root... Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/efreet_0.5.0.043+cvs20080722-r0_armv4t.ipk Collected errors: * Package efreet wants to install file /usr/lib/libefreet.so.0.5.0 But that file is already provided by package * libefreet0 * Package efreet wants to install file /usr/lib/libefreet.so.0 But that file is already provided by package * libefreet0 * Package efreet wants to install file /usr/lib/libefreet.so.0.5.0 But that file is already provided by package * libefreet0 * Package efreet wants to install file /usr/lib/libefreet.so.0 But that file is already provided by package * libefreet0 * Package efreet wants to install file /usr/lib/libefreet.so.0.5.0 But that file is already provided by package * libefreet0 * Package efreet wants to install file /usr/lib/libefreet.so.0 But that file is already provided by package * libefreet0 HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR - ASU image - keyboard with wrong characters
Hello, On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Johny Tenfinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> BTW, I really, really miss a backspace key on this keyboard. > > "Click" some key and drag to left - it should work as backspace key. On the keyboard? any key? I just can't seem to get that to work. I click down on a key on the keyboard (say "5") and drag left. When I release that key, the number 5 is added to the input field. I also tried to drag in other directions - didn't help. What am I doing wrong? -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR - ASU image - keyboard with wrong characters
Hi, On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Ole Kliemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can work around this by running `opkg upgrade -force-overwrite'. Thanks, I'll try that. > But besides this, for me the latestes ASU version has no keyboard at > all. Already posted this on the support list. So as long as yours is > still usable, I would not upgrade further until this is solved. > > Unless you want to increase the pool of testing data. ;) Well, I'm all in for testing stuff here, so I'll just go ahead and upgrade: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg upgrade -force-overwrite Upgrading e-wm on root from 0.16.999.042+cvs20080710-r10 to 0.16.999.042+cvs20080722-r10... Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/e-wm_0.16.999.042+cvs20080722-r10_armv4t.ipk Installing efreet (1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080722-r0) to root... Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/efreet_0.5.0.043+cvs20080722-r0_armv4t.ipk Upgrading illume on root from 0.0+svnr133-r6 to 0.0+svnr152-r6... Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr152-r6_armv4t.ipk Upgrading libefreet-mime0 on root from 1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080710-r0 to 1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080722-r0... Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/libefreet-mime0_0.5.0.043+cvs20080722-r0_armv4t.ipk Configuring e-wm update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/x-window-manager to /usr/bin/enlightenment_start.oe Configuring efreet Configuring illume Configuring libefreet-mime0 You were correct - no keyboard at all. Tested with the SIM PIN diaolg and the Contacts app. -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR - ASU image - keyboard with wrong characters
Hello, On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Michael Sheldon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe this is a known bug: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1533 > > It occurs when the USB cable is plugged in, try removing the USB and > see if the keyboard starts working correctly. Hmm, a bit too late - I just did 'opkg upgrade -force-overwrite' and now don't have a keyboard at all. Yes, I *was* warned in advance :-) Which poses another question. A new thread in a few minutes. -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR - ASU image - keyboard with wrong characters
Hello, On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Michael Sheldon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe this is a known bug: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1533 > > It occurs when the USB cable is plugged in, try removing the USB and > see if the keyboard starts working correctly. I was able to confirm this by using the dialer keypad (which still works). Yes, this is the same bug. The keypad works normally when usb is unplugged. You can plug and unplug usb many times, the bug is only "active" when the usb is connected. -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeBSD / dfu-util
Hello, On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > have you got libusb somewhere? OSX needs it too, btw .. libusb is available in ports on FreeBSD: http://www.freshports.org/devel/libusb/ HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why is Qtopia much faster?
Hello, On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By releasing something that allows closed source linking, you are restricting > your users rights to > recompile all the software. How is that giving your users more rights? > If you don't like free software, why the heck are you developing for a 'free > your phone' phone? > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-not-lgpl.html People, this discussion has turned _very_ off topic now. Could you all please take further discussion on this subject in a place where it is more on topic? Thank you. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What is Exposure?
Hello, On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Michael Sheldon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was the mention on the bug report Jeff linked to in the ASU > keyboard thread that we should be using the packages from > downloads.openmoko.org that put me on the right track, after that it was > just a matter of poking around to find the up-to-date ASU repositories > there and update the opkg feed configs. Thanks for sharing. This is _very_ useful. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
Hello, On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Michael Sheldon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > simarillion wrote: >> Thank you, >> it works fine, but how can I switch to the full keyboard which has not only >> the letters? Do I need an additional package? > > Drag your finger upwards (or downwards) and you'll cycle through the > layouts (lower case, upper case, symbols, numbers). I just wanted to say that now that the ASU / Qtopia whatever keyboard is working again I find it quite usable. left drag for backspace also works now, I don't know why it didn't before. and right drag is enter. up drag is changing "pane" (layout / keys) and down drag changes in the other direction. Very nice! I can even use the keyboard with my fingers now! -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gpsd not in ASU repository?
Hello, On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Christopher White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It's not necessary in ASU. I disagree - gpsd or somethin like it is required no matter which "package" you run on your FreeRunner. Why? So that several applications cn get the gps data at the same time. >> The Diversity app works without any gpsd. How? does it read directly from the tty? >> Enabled the GPS antenna using Exposure, then Ah. Exposure dosn't start here, not even after I upgraded my ASU image with opkg from http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/armv4t > 4. Configuration / Preferences? TangoGPS seems to have a lot more > options for things. Diversity lacks tracking, AFAICT. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What is Exposure?
Hello, On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Yorick Moko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i'm using a fully up-to-date ASU, but exposure wont load is this > normal? i've never been able to load it I am alos now using a fully up to date ASU, thaks to Michael's instructions. No, Exposure won't start here either. Doing a 'ps ax | more' I suddenly see this: 1336 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/app-restarter The qpe process vanished. This is bad.?This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of?a bug in Qtopia. Please try to reproduce it and?report the issue to http://docs.openmoko.org.??To be able to use your phone as a phone again you?will have to restart Qtopia.? qpe It looks the same after a restart. HmmI wonder if this is related? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
ASU updated - qpe not working?
Hello, I have just upgraded to the most updated ASU, by pointing opkg at http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/ using Michael Sheldon's instructions from another thread in this list. I really like the read battary charging indicator. :-) But when I do 'ps ax | more' I see this: 1345 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/app-restarter The qpe process vanished. This is bad.?This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of?a bug in Qtopia. Please try to reproduce it and?report the issue to http://docs.openmoko.org.??To be able to use your phone as a phone again you?will have to restart Qtopia.? qpe Huh? How do I restart qpe? Therer doesn't seems to be a script for that in /etc/init.d -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU updated - qpe not working?
More info. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really like the read battary charging indicator. :-) Oops... "red" - red battery indicator. :) > How do I restart qpe? Therer doesn't seems to be a script for that in > /etc/init.d When I try to restart qpe manually, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# DISPLAY=:0.0 qpe ficgta01hardware plugin Modem : opening serial device "/dev/ttySAC0" at 115200 Modem : Device: "/dev/ttySAC0" is a tty device: True Modem : NONBLOCK successfully reset Modem : Opened "/dev/ttySAC0" AtChat : T : "AT+CMUX=0,0,5,31" Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Modem : Multiplexing has been disabled. AtChat : T : "AT+CGMI" Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Modem : No modem vendor plug-in found - using default AtChat : T : "AT+CBC" QDSync : QDSyncTask::QDSyncTask To me, it looks like something is wrong here. But it could just be me. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU updated - qpe not working?
Hello, On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Michael Sheldon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > phone work correctly again. But I'm not sure if your current problem is > being caused by that, or whether it's a completely separate problem. think the kernel whic got installed is the right one: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg info task-base-kernel26 Package: task-base-kernel26 Version: 1.0-r67.01 Depends: sysfsutils, module-init-tools Recommends: kernel-module-nls-utf8, kernel-module-input, kernel-module-uinput, kernel-module-rtc-dev, kernel-module-rtc-proc, kernel-module-rtc-sysfs, kernel-module-rtc-sa1100, kernel-module-unix Status: unknown ok not-installed Section: base Architecture: om-gta02 maintainer: Angstrom Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MD5Sum: 9e342863ccf4784531e6b7be0619fa33 Filename: task-base-kernel26_1.0-r67.01_om-gta02.ipk Source: file:///home/build/internal-daily-build/git.openmoko.worktree/packages/tasks/task-base.bb Description: Merge machine and distro options to create a basic machine task/package Package: task-base-kernel26 Version: 1.0-r69 Depends: sysfsutils, module-init-tools Recommends: kernel-module-nls-utf8, kernel-module-input, kernel-module-uinput, kernel-module-rtc-dev, kernel-module-rtc-proc, kernel-module-rtc-sysfs, kernel-module-rtc-sa1100, kernel-module-unix Status: install ok installed Architecture: om-gta02 On closer inspection, perhpas not: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg info kernel Package: kernel Version: 2:2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1 Depends: kernel-2.6.24 Status: install user installed Section: kernel Architecture: neo1973 maintainer: Angstrom Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MD5Sum: a39c6c6ecd0cf5375f3cf05568a12115 Size: 864 Filename: kernel_2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1_neo1973.ipk Source: git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git;protocol=git;branch=stable Description: Linux 2.6.x (development) kernel for FIC SmartPhones shipping w/ Openmoko Here goes messing up the FR again: opkg -force-reinstall install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0_om-gta02.ipk Crap, that didn't work. Neither did variations. Ok, I'll rename the old /etc/opkg-backup into /etc/opkg, do an 'opkg update', 'opkg install kernel' and then rename things back again. Tha seems to have worked: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/kernel-image-2.6.24_2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0_om-gta02.ipk I wonder hwat happens when I reboot the FR now... Ok, a cuple of restars and it seems to work now. Phew! -- Regards Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What is Exposure?
Hello, On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Staley, Daniel L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, once I opkg upgraded this morning, I ran into the problem a few > people have posted on here about (Exposure not working). What do you get if you do 'opkg info kernel'? Somehow the 'opkg update' followed by 'opkg upgrade' got me a neo1973 kernl on my FR. After manually fixing this, I now have: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg info kernel Package: kernel Version: 2:2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0 Depends: kernel-2.6.24 Status: install user installed Section: kernel Architecture: om-gta02 maintainer: Angstrom Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MD5Sum: 117471df1320d854a7f493c39bc649f3 Size: 936 Filename: kernel_2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0_om-gta02.ipk Source: git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git;protocol=git;branch=stable file://0001-squashfs-with-lzma.patch;patch=1 file://0002-squashfs-initrd.patch;patch=1 file://0003-squashfs-force-O2.patch;patch=1 file://0004-squashfs-Kconfig.patch;patch=1 file://0005-squashfs-Makefile.patch;patch=1 Description: Linux 2.6.x (development) kernel for FIC SmartPhones shipping w/ Openmoko > Has anyone found a fix for this? It was working before the newest update > and i have my repos pointed to the correct ASU ones. I haven't at least. If I try to start it from a shell, it still does this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# DISPLAY=:0.0 app-launcher.py exposure Can't connect to unix socket - starting daemon ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# I wonder if it is related to this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps ax | grep qpe 1346 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/app-restarter The qpe process vanished. This is bad.?This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of?a bug in Qtopia. Please try to reproduce it and?report the issue to http://docs.openmoko.org.??To be able to use your phone as a phone again you?will have to restart Qtopia.? qpe 1349 ?Sl 0:44 qpe 1548 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep qpe -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU updated - qpe not working?
More info. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, a cuple of restars and it seems to work now. Phew! But qpe still crashes / fails: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps ax | grep qpe 1346 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/app-restarter The qpe process vanished. This is bad.?This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of?a bug in Qtopia. Please try to reproduce it and?report the issue to http://docs.openmoko.org.??To be able to use your phone as a phone again you?will have to restart Qtopia.? qpe 1349 ?Sl 0:44 qpe 1548 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep qpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# Any ideas what I should do now? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
opkg tries to install package with wrong arch? (Was: What is Exposure?)
Hello, After pointing the opkg repository to http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/ per Michael Sheldon's instructions and doing an 'opkg update' on my FreeRunner, I do this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg -test upgrade Upgrading kernel on root from 2:2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0 to 2:2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/neo1973/kernel_2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1_neo1973.ipk Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Why does opkg try to install a kernel for the neo1973? My current kernel is this one: Package: kernel Version: 2:2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0 Depends: kernel-2.6.24 Status: install user installed Architecture: om-gta02 Installed-Time: 1217001495 But it tries to install this one: Package: kernel Version: 2:2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1 Depends: kernel-2.6.24 Status: unknown ok not-installed Section: kernel Architecture: neo1973 maintainer: Angstrom Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MD5Sum: a39c6c6ecd0cf5375f3cf05568a12115 Size: 864 Filename: kernel_2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1_neo1973.ipk Source: git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git;protocol=git;branch=stable Description: Linux 2.6.x (development) kernel for FIC SmartPhones shipping w/ Openmoko Why? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR and iPhone - how can they be compared?
Hi, On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Sparrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howdy Flemming, > >Neat idea's about the FR and custom hardware. I currently have an > arduino project that works great with the Freerunner, connecting both > via blue tooth and via usb. The arduino is used to control a custom > irrigation solution I build on my roof using earth boxs, and the sends > the data back to the FR for alerting and monitoring. Interesting. Is therer a web page for this project somewhere? Are you using a BT Arduino, or a custom bluetooth adapter? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Breakable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > Just wondering those of you who have the device already, what are you doing > with your new device? Mainly I am testing GPS functions. I am currently not using the FreeRunner as my main phone, mainly becase my main phone is a work phone with business mail on it. I might use the FR as my peronal phone in the future. Other than that I am installing, testing and using as much as I can on the FR. Currently I am testing the ASU image / stack. I have just recently learned how to use the ASU (Qtopia?) keyboard, and find it working quite well. Now all I need is national characters (I'm Norwegian so that means æøåÆØÅ) and a way to set up a national dictionary / word list for the predictive keyboard (press-and-hold works, but is very slow) and I'll be really happy with this keyboard. I have not got Exposure to work yet, still working on that. This is just a couple of examples of what I do with my FR. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: list subscription question
Hello, On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Yochai Gal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I check the list every day, but so many come in my inbox everyday that it's > hard to sort through my mail. > I've set up some gmail filters, of course, but it still shows up in all > mail. I do read the forums daily but I don't like it getting mixed up > with my regular mail. Have you selected "skip inbox" on those filters? That works nicely for me. (I use a separate label for each list I am subscribed to. HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg tries to install package with wrong arch? (Was: What is Exposure?)
Hello, On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 12:56 AM, Michael Sheldon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems there are no om-gta02 kernel packages on downloads; as such > I've updated the feeds config at > http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/opkg-asu.tar.gz to include the buildhost > om-gta02 repository, and I'm now getting correct kernels being installed > when upgrading. It still doesn't look quite right here: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg -test upgrade Upgrading angstrom-version on root from 1:P1-Snapshot-20080725-r1 to 1:P1-Snapshot-20080726-r1... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/om-gta02/angstrom-version_P1-Snapshot-20080726-r1_om-gta02.ipk Upgrading e-wm on root from 0.16.999.042+cvs20080725-r10 to 0.16.999.042+cvs20080725-r11... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/armv4t/e-wm_0.16.999.042+cvs20080725-r11_armv4t.ipk Upgrading kernel on root from 2:2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0 to 2:2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/neo1973/kernel_2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1_neo1973.ipk I did an opkg update first, of course. Is opkg caching this information somewhere else? Or am I doing something wrong? -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg tries to install package with wrong arch? (Was: What is Exposure?)
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Michael Sheldon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could you check that you now have a file called > /etc/opkg/om-gta02-daily-feed.conf? Yes, I have that file: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ll /etc/opkg drwxr-xr-x2 root root0 Jul 26 12:31 ./ drwxr-xr-x 49 root root0 Jul 26 11:49 ../ -rw-r--r--1 root root 75 Jul 15 02:56 all-feed.conf -rw-r--r--1 root root 115 Jan 1 1970 arch.conf -rw-r--r--1 root root 81 Jul 15 02:56 armv4t-feed.conf -rw-r--r--1 root root 85 Jan 1 1970 community-repository-feed.conf -rw-r--r--1 root root 83 Jul 15 02:56 neo1973-feed.conf -rw-r--r--1 root root 80 Jul 26 00:41 om-gta02-daily-feed.conf -rw-r--r--1 root root 85 Jul 15 02:56 om-gta02-feed.conf -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
