Re: [Cooker] RPM Help

2000-03-17 Thread Camille Begnis

"James E. Jennison" wrote:
> 
> Do I need to be root in order to make packages using RPM?  I've been trying to
> using my normal user account, and if I can do it this way, I can't figure out
> how.  Any info would be appreciated.

Hi James,

Have a look at the RPM section of our website. Then consult the document
called mdk-rpm mini HOWTO. All should be there.

Your, Camille.



[Cooker] Proofreaders wanted

2000-03-14 Thread Camille Begnis

Dear all,

To improve the quality of our manuals we are seeking voluntary
proofreaders to check following languages:
- English,
- French (Dadou?),
- German,
- Spanish,
- Italian (Giusseppe?).

It is not technical proofreading, just for language good usage. There
will be ponctual work as chapters become available, up to late may.

Write directly to me if interested, 

Thanks, Camille.



[Cooker] Proofreaders wanted

2000-03-14 Thread Camille Begnis

Dear cookers,

To improve the quality of our manuals we are seeking voluntary
proofreaders to check following languages:
- English,
- French,
- German,
- Spanish,
- Italian.

It is not technical proofreading, just for language good usage. There
will be ponctual work as chapters become available, up to late may.

Write directly to me if interested, 

Thanks, Camille.



Re: [Cooker] Feature freeze mdk-rpm now online

2000-03-10 Thread Camille Begnis

geoffrey lee wrote:

> (1) appwatch does not have as many announcements as freshmeat, but you could
> tell people to look there too.
> 
> (2) should the hackX naming scheme be covered?
> 
> (3) you include the pgp in .rpmmacros, but it's never required since you
> only told people to do rpm -ba package.spec
> 
> either you can tell them to do rpm -ba --sign package.spec or tell them to
> do --addsign afterwards.
> 
> btw, you could consider adding --clean to the arg given twhen building the
> package.

All suggestions approved! Web update in a few days.

Camille.



[Cooker] Feature freeze mdk-rpm now online

2000-03-10 Thread Camille Begnis

Hi all,

What I hope is the last update for current developments have been
uploaded to intranet pages. Use it! and warn me of possible mistakes.
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/howtos/mdk-rpm/

For those interested in a single-long-page document, it is also
available.


Camille.



Re: [Cooker] New generic.spec file.

2000-03-09 Thread Camille Begnis

geoffrey lee wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> Camille Begnis wrote:
> >
> > geoffrey lee wrote:
> > >
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > Pixel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Francis GALIEGUE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > Pablo Saratxaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I agree. a %files section automatically fileld is evil; it generates tons
> > > > > > of error messages on rpm package updates (of the kind of
> > > > > > "/usr/bin directory not empty"), which give a bad image of our work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The best is: first, no %files section - then, in a shell, cd $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
> > > > > and find | less.
> > > > > Do your %files section from there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Clean, never any pb.
> > > >
> > > > i don't agree never to use a file for %files. It's very helpfull when you split
> > > > packages. If you don't use an automated file list, you will miss new files in
> > > > newer version.
> > >
> > > i have to agree with pixel here. how about we add this to the generic
> > > spec file, and then we comment the auto file generation out and add an
> > > appropriate comment to describe how to use it?
> >
> > Do not forget that the generic spec file is intended for beginners. If
> > we suggest them to use auto file generation, they'll use it all the
> > time. When they become more experienced spec coders, they find soon or
> > later a spec file coding this, and then they be experienced enough to
> > use it without dangers.
> >
> > Camille.
> 
> well, i can see what you mean. i understand that there are dangers with
> auto file generation... but still, auto file generation is an extremely
> good and useful feature. that's why i suggested putting the code there,
> commenting it out, and adding appropriate warning there. e.g. #PLEASE DO
> NOT USE THE FOLLOWING CODE UNLESS YOU ABSOLUTELY KNOW WHAT YOU ARE
> DOING!! something like that. i.e. we don't suggest that beginners
> use it. the auot file feature is for lazy bones like me who want to use
> auto file generation but do not want to write a spec file from scratch
> ... :-P

OK. This is what I propose:
I'll put the code apart with explicit warning, adding that it must be
used only in extreme cases, for package with too much files to be listed
as a whole in spec file.
I'll also stress the fact that wildcard are allowed.

If someone have something against this, tell it now or wait next release
as I MUST publish today new version of external rpm-mdk...

Camille.



Re: [Cooker] New generic.spec file.

2000-03-09 Thread Camille Begnis

geoffrey lee wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> Pixel wrote:
> >
> > Francis GALIEGUE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Pablo Saratxaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I agree. a %files section automatically fileld is evil; it generates tons
> > > > of error messages on rpm package updates (of the kind of
> > > > "/usr/bin directory not empty"), which give a bad image of our work.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > The best is: first, no %files section - then, in a shell, cd $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
> > > and find | less.
> > > Do your %files section from there.
> > >
> > > Clean, never any pb.
> >
> > i don't agree never to use a file for %files. It's very helpfull when you split
> > packages. If you don't use an automated file list, you will miss new files in
> > newer version.
> 
> i have to agree with pixel here. how about we add this to the generic
> spec file, and then we comment the auto file generation out and add an
> appropriate comment to describe how to use it?

Do not forget that the generic spec file is intended for beginners. If
we suggest them to use auto file generation, they'll use it all the
time. When they become more experienced spec coders, they find soon or
later a spec file coding this, and then they be experienced enough to
use it without dangers.

Camille.



Re: [Cooker] A couple of questions

2000-03-08 Thread Camille Begnis

OS wrote:
> 
> Hello,

Hi OS (?)
 
> I have a couple of questions, if anyone can answer them I would be very
> grateful.
> 
> 1)  How do you associate files with given applications. For example how would I
> get .bmp files to be opened with a paint package, or .pdf files with Acrobat ?

This is explained in the user guide available on web site:
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/userguide/en/reference/004.html#38

> 2)  Is there a way of getting a dial up connection box automatically ? I have
> used diald, but there are times when I don't want to connect - rather I would
> like to work off line. I use kppp, but more often than not I would like to
> connect as soon as a URL or the like is requested, rather than having to launch
> and connect kppp then start internet use. Is there an Xdiald ?

called dctrl

> 3)  Is this 0.x a new format for .rpm files ? I use kernel 2.2.15-5mdk, but I
> notice there is a 2.2.15-0.12mdk. I assume that this is later. Likewise with
> glibc 2.1.3-0.2mdk

Yes indeed. That decimal release number means it is still in internal
debug phase.

> 4)  Is anyone else experiencing Netscape lock ups (seriously :) ) at particular
> sites that use Java. For e.g. www.j-tull.co.uk. This site starts to load but
> then always locks sometime after the java content has loaded. I am using the
> latest 4.72-1mdk (or should that be 4.72-0.1mdk ?).

Try simply disabling java in Netscape...

Camille.



Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rpm-3.0.4-0.5mdk

2000-03-06 Thread Camille Begnis

geoffrey lee wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> coz rpm 3.0.4 is in alpha/beta. can't remember which.  it was like glibc
> pre4 a while ago. it had 0.1mdk.

Shouldn't be hackrpm-3.0.4-5mdk.rpm then?

> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Camille Begnis
> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 9:22 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rpm-3.0.4-0.5mdk
> >
> >
> > Pablo Saratxaga wrote:
> > >
> > > --=-=-=
> > > Name: rpm Distribution: Mandrake
> > > Version : 3.0.4 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> > > Release : 0.5mdkBuild Date: Mon Mar
> > 06 05:56:46 2000
> >
> > I just noticed, why a decimal release number?
> > (To be added in mdk-rpm...)
> >
> > Thanks, Camille.
> >



[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rpm-3.0.4-0.5mdk

2000-03-06 Thread Camille Begnis

Pablo Saratxaga wrote:
> 
> --=-=-=
> Name: rpm Distribution: Mandrake
> Version : 3.0.4 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 0.5mdkBuild Date: Mon Mar 06 05:56:46 2000

I just noticed, why a decimal release number?
(To be added in mdk-rpm...)

Thanks, Camille.



[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] mozilla-5.0.0.M13-2mdk

2000-03-03 Thread Camille Begnis

Lenny Cartier wrote:
> 
> [Contrib-RPM]
> 
> --=-=-=
> Name: mozilla Distribution: Mandrake
> Version : 5.0.0.M13 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 2mdk  Build Date: Fri Mar 03 06:31:38 2000
> Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: kenobi.mandrakesoft.com
> Group   : Mozilla   Source RPM: (none)
> Size: 16256578
> Packager: Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> URL : http://www.mozilla.org
> Summary : Mozilla, open-source web browser
> Description :
> Mozilla is an open-source web browser, designed for standards
> compliance, performance and portability.
> This the M13 release.

M14 is out...

Camille.



Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rpm-3.0.4-1mdk

2000-02-17 Thread Camille Begnis

Axalon Bloodstone a écrit :
> 
> On 17 Feb 2000, Warly wrote:
> 
> > Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > * Wed Feb 16 2000 Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3.0.4-1mdk
> > >
> > > - New spec clean-up.
> > > - Remove pgp passphrase patch (use gpg instead).
> > > - Obsoletes: popt-devel (now popt does also devel).
> > > - Separate in multiple package like rpm-build popt rpm-devel rpm-python.
> > > - New mdkconf patch.
> > > - Use configure macros
> > > - Hide your babys and womens rpm 3.0.4 from CVS is here.
> >   ^^^
> >
> > Should be rpm-3.0.4-0.1mdk, no ?
> >

Has this policy definitely been adopted?
Waiting an answer to update mdk-rpm Howto.
Any other suggestion appreciated.

Also, it would be great improvement if changelog messages contained a
link to the ftp location, to download in a single click associated rpm
and srpm.

Camille.



[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] crafty-17.7-1mdk

2000-02-09 Thread Camille Begnis

Lenny Cartier a écrit :
> 
> [Contrib-RPM]
> 
> --=-=-=
> Name: crafty  Distribution: Mandrake
> Version : 17.7  Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Wed Feb 09 07:55:06 2000

Could not use it, because xboard needs "chessprogram" and crafty needs
xboard ... :(
Forcing deps is not of much help as xboard needs gnuchess to run...
Do you follow me?

I don't 8-|

Camille.



[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] mandrake_desk-1.0.1-20mdk

2000-02-03 Thread Camille Begnis

Francis Galiegue a écrit :
> 
> --=-=-=
> Name: mandrake_desk   Distribution: Mandrake
> Version : 1.0.1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 20mdk Build Date: Thu Feb 03 04:11:11 2000

> - No CVS update - instructions as to where and how to update are unclear. I
>   WANT DOCS!

What type of docs?

Camille



Re: [Cooker] HOWTOs

2000-01-27 Thread Camille Begnis

[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> it seems that the Howtos are not included in Air ?
> Why ?

Lack of place on CD :(
See contribs.

Camille.



Re: [Cooker] libnet test

1999-12-28 Thread Camille Begnis

Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit :
> 
> Camille Begnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Couldn't compile examples. Seems they are not located at correct place.
> > Someone else should try as I am not an expert...
> 
> what problem ?

[camille@localhost example]$ pwd
/usr/doc/libnet-1.0/example
[camille@localhost example]$ make example 
if ! test -e ../lib/libnet.a; then \
cd .. &&  make; \
fi
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/doc/libnet-1.0'
make[1]: *** No targets.  Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/doc/libnet-1.0'
make: *** [example] Error 2

That's all.



[Cooker] libnet test

1999-12-28 Thread Camille Begnis

Couldn't compile examples. Seems they are not located at correct place.

Someone else should try as I am not an expert...

Camille.