Re: [Cooker] Bugs in Linux Mandrake 7.1 beta

2000-05-04 Thread Pixel

Till Kamppeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The advantage of having a
> distribution with ide-cd.o as module is that one could modify kudzu for
> automatically recognizing a CD burner (loading ide-scsi and afterwards
> giving 'cdrecord -scanbus' and 'cdrecord -dev x,y,z -checkdrive' for
> every drive found, see 'man cdrecord') and loading the correct drivers.
> So even beginners can burn (with X-CD-Roast 0.96ex2 or 0.98). The
> lilo.conf solution needs a reboot and so is unsuitable for kudzu. It's
> only good for manual configuration which is not nice for beginners and
> except CD-burning on IDE writers Mandrake is a beginner-friendly Linux,
> why not also with these devices?

ok, first time i see someone telling ide-cd should in module, but knowing it
isn't really necessary :)

as for having ide-cd in module, i think it could be a nice idea (at install, all
ide is already in module), but the main pb is that people are not used to, at
least if we would put all ide in module, then you would not boot without initrd.
Having only ide-cd as module may be a good mid-solution.




Re: [Cooker] Bugs in Linux Mandrake 7.1 beta

2000-05-04 Thread Till Kamppeter

> 
> maybe all your menu-system was broken.

Yes that was the case, but I don't know why it happened.

> >  - Compile the driver for IDE CD-ROM drives as module so that the driver
> > can be unloaded and replaced by the IDE-SCSI emulation. So IDE
> > CD-writers can be used without recompiling the kernel.
> 
> This is not the good solution. IDE CDROM and CD-Writers can co-exist with
> different drivers.
> 
> Such lines should do the trick:
> 
> options ide-cd ignore=hdb
>

This only works when ide-cd is a module and therefore I suggested the
change in the kernel configuration. I tested using ide-cd as module with
Conectiva Linux 5.0 and Mandrake 7.0 it works perfectly.

> See the CD-Writing howto.
>

Yes, I read it and found an alternative method putting a line

   append="hdb=ide-scsi"

into the /etc/lilo.conf which I tested on a SuSE 6.1 machine (on my
Mandrake and Conectiva machine I already compiled the kernel with
ide-cd.o as module). It works without problems and so allows using IDE
burners without recompiling the kernel. The advantage of having a
distribution with ide-cd.o as module is that one could modify kudzu for
automatically recognizing a CD burner (loading ide-scsi and afterwards
giving 'cdrecord -scanbus' and 'cdrecord -dev x,y,z -checkdrive' for
every drive found, see 'man cdrecord') and loading the correct drivers.
So even beginners can burn (with X-CD-Roast 0.96ex2 or 0.98). The
lilo.conf solution needs a reboot and so is unsuitable for kudzu. It's
only good for manual configuration which is not nice for beginners and
except CD-burning on IDE writers Mandrake is a beginner-friendly Linux,
why not also with these devices?
 
   Till




Re: [Cooker] Bugs in Linux Mandrake 7.1 beta

2000-05-04 Thread Till Kamppeter

Hi,

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> 
> Till Kamppeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >  - The most recent stable version of X-CD-Roast is 0.96ex2, the version
> > coming with Mandrake 7.1 is only 0.96e. That old
> >version has still a bug in the nonroot-mode and the cdparanoia
> > support. So it should be updated. Get it from
> >www.xcdroast.org.
> 
> We are in freeze now. Such an upgrade must be done very cautiously.
> 

This X-CD-Roast 0.96ex2 is a bugfix release, I only made it because
users complained about the nonroot bug (in all newer distributions of
Linux the nonroot-mode didn't work any more because of a change of the
SUID policy of bash) and the bug of the progress bar not working when
audio CDs are read using CD-Paranoia. I have fixed these two bugs in the
0.96ex2 version and I havn´t done anything more there. This 0.96ex2
version already appeared in Red Hat 6.2, Caldera 2.4, and Conectiva 5.0
(www.conectiva.com). I didn't get bug reports of the users any more
since I released 0.96ex2. All reports I got were from users which got
the obsolete 0.96e with a Linux distribution. I don't know why so many
distribution companies (SuSE for example) ignore this bugfix release.

   Till




Re: [Cooker] Bugs in Linux Mandrake 7.1 beta

2000-05-03 Thread Timothy Litwiller

Same here on a fresh install no terminal icon - not in either a user or root.

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:>  - There is no button or desktop symbol for
getting a terminal window

> > (konsole). konsole is also not listed in the terminal section of the KDE
> > menu.
>
> waoo. I don't know which version you installed. the konsole menu entry has
> always been here, for ages..
>
> maybe all your menu-system was broken.
>




Re: [Cooker] Bugs in Linux Mandrake 7.1 beta

2000-05-03 Thread Pixel

Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> >  - I added some partitions on external NFS servers to the /etc/fstab.
> > They are not mounted automatically at boot time, but
> 
> the option you're looking for is "defaults"
> 

nope, there was a bug in my patch in mount. fixed now.




Re: [Cooker] Bugs in Linux Mandrake 7.1 beta

2000-05-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Till Kamppeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  - The most recent stable version of X-CD-Roast is 0.96ex2, the version
> coming with Mandrake 7.1 is only 0.96e. That old 
>version has still a bug in the nonroot-mode and the cdparanoia
> support. So it should be updated. Get it from 
>www.xcdroast.org.

We are in freeze now. Such an upgrade must be done very cautiously.

>  - By default there are no symbols for often used programs in the panel
> of KDE. In 7.0 this symbols still were available.

This is strange, menu system should add some more links, not remove some.
Can you name the missing links?

>  - There is no button or desktop symbol for getting a terminal window
> (konsole). konsole is also not listed in the terminal section of the KDE
> menu.

waoo. I don't know which version you installed. the konsole menu entry has
always been here, for ages..


maybe all your menu-system was broken.

>  - I added some partitions on external NFS servers to the /etc/fstab.
> They are not mounted automatically at boot time, but

the option you're looking for is "defaults"

>entering 'mount -a' manually mounts them.
> 
> Some suggestions:
> 
>  - Compile the driver for IDE CD-ROM drives as module so that the driver
> can be unloaded and replaced by the IDE-SCSI emulation. So IDE
> CD-writers can be used without recompiling the kernel.

This is not the good solution. IDE CDROM and CD-Writers can co-exist with
different drivers.

Such lines should do the trick:

options ide-cd ignore=hdb


See the CD-Writing howto.

>  - Reiser-FS should be the default file system in general. It does not
> only make sense in high-availability servers, but also in notebooks and
> home computers which are booted very often. So the fsck after 10 or 20
> boots is avoided.

It is still under development.

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau




Re: [Cooker] Bugs in Linux Mandrake 7.1 beta

2000-05-02 Thread Michèl Alexandre Salim

It might be that the installer obtained the package listing in the
beginning of the session and some packages have been updated by the time
it tries to download it? Had the same problem with mirror, I end up
running it a couple of times making sure the latest packages are
downloaded. Could the installer be patched so that it re-download the
package listing when such errors occur? Then again, not a big problem
when 7.1 is released.

Regards,
Michèl
Alex Hayes wrote:
> 
> I have tried to install via ftp several times, using rpmfind.net.  each
> time, the installer "fails to find" certain random packages.  so for
> example, i get to the point in the install where packages are being
> downloaded, and get an error "package VIM-x.x.xx could not be downloaded,
> continue with install?"  this would be non-fatal, except that some of the
> packages are core, eg bash.  i would image the problem is the installer is
> not retrying on a broken connect to the ftp server.  is this a "known
> issue"?  i don't think its a personal problem, b/c suse, debian and rh have
> all been cleanly ftp'd in the last week to the same machine with the same
> inet config.
> 
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Re: [Cooker] Bugs in Linux Mandrake 7.1 beta

2000-05-01 Thread Pixel

Till Kamppeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

> 
>   EIZO|FlexScan F78;0; 30.0-110.0; 50.0-160.0

added :)




Re: [Cooker] Bugs in Linux Mandrake 7.1 beta

2000-05-01 Thread Till Kamppeter

Pixel wrote:
> 
> Till Kamppeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >  - The monitor names in XFdrake are somewhat strange, I couldn't find
> > the EIZO F78.
> 
> can you give info like:
> 
> # Each line has format:
> #   ; ; ; 
> EIZO|FlexScan TX-C7S; 0; 30.0-92.0; 50.0-160.0
> EIZO|FlexScan TX-D7S; 0; 30.0-95.0; 50.0-160.0

  EIZO|FlexScan F78;0; 30.0-110.0; 50.0-160.0




Re: [Cooker] Bugs in Linux Mandrake 7.1 beta

2000-05-01 Thread Alex Hayes

I have tried to install via ftp several times, using rpmfind.net.  each 
time, the installer "fails to find" certain random packages.  so for 
example, i get to the point in the install where packages are being 
downloaded, and get an error "package VIM-x.x.xx could not be downloaded, 
continue with install?"  this would be non-fatal, except that some of the 
packages are core, eg bash.  i would image the problem is the installer is 
not retrying on a broken connect to the ftp server.  is this a "known 
issue"?  i don't think its a personal problem, b/c suse, debian and rh have 
all been cleanly ftp'd in the last week to the same machine with the same 
inet config.

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Re: [Cooker] Bugs in Linux Mandrake 7.1 beta

2000-05-01 Thread Pixel

Till Kamppeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  - The monitor names in XFdrake are somewhat strange, I couldn't find
> the EIZO F78.

can you give info like:

# Each line has format:
#   ; ; ; 
EIZO|FlexScan TX-C7S; 0; 30.0-92.0; 50.0-160.0
EIZO|FlexScan TX-D7S; 0; 30.0-95.0; 50.0-160.0




[Fwd: [Cooker] Bugs in Linux Mandrake 7.1 beta]

2000-05-01 Thread Till Kamppeter

Hi,
---

attached a way how I implemented support of IDE CD-writers under
Mandrake 7.0 compiling the kernel with both ide-cd.o and ide-scsi.o as
module, see my suggestions in the posting 'Bugs in Linux Mandrake 7.1
beta'.

   Till


Hi
--

David Aspinall wrote:
> 
>  >  - Compile the driver for IDE CD-ROM drives as module so that the driver
>  > can be unloaded and replaced by the IDE-SCSI
>  >emulation. So IDE CD-writers can be used without recompiling the
>  > kernel.
> 
> Have you ever done this successfully?  I tried it a while ago but it
> didn't seem to work...

I have done exactly the following steps under Mandrake 7.0 and it works
perfectly, it should work in a similar way also in 7.1:

Configuring IDE CD-ROM drives (writers) for use under SCSI emulation


Red Hat Linux and derivatives, Kernel >= 2.2.14

 - Recompile kernel:

 Overtake distribution configuration:

cd /usr/src/linux
cp /usr/doc/kernel-doc*/config/kernel-xxx.config .config
make menuconfig
 
 Only change in kernel configuration (the settings in brackets
should
 work, too, but I didn't test them, my settings are also the best
for
 universal distribution kernels):

'Block Devices'/'IDE CD-ROM support' as module (or off)
'Block Devices'/'IDE SCSI emulation' as module (or on)
'SCSI'/'SCSI support' on (or as module)
'SCSI'/'generic SCSI' as module (or on)

 Compile including the modules:

time make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install bzlilo

 - Edit /etc/lilo.conf to include new kernel as default:

 # Entry for newly compiled kernel
 image=/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda6
append=""
read-only
 # Original entry with changed 'label'
 image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux.old
root=/dev/hda6
append=""
read-only 

   Activate changes:

  lilo

 - Create /etc/rc.d/rc.modules (or add line if file already exists):

  modprobe ide-scsi

   and make it executable so that the IDE SCSI emulation is loaded at
   boot time. Alternatively the loading of the module can be done
   before or after the loading of the sound modules in
   /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.

 - Redirect CD-ROM link:

  rm /dev/cdrom
  ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom

 - Reboot, enter 'lsmod', 'dmesg', and 'cdrecord -scanbus' for further
   checking, CD-ROM should be supermounted on access to /mnt/cdrom.
   X-CD-Roast (both 0.96xxx and 0.98) should run out-of-the-box.




[Cooker] Bugs in Linux Mandrake 7.1 beta

2000-05-01 Thread Till Kamppeter

Hi,

I have installed Linux Mandrake 7.1 beta by mounting the ISO image on
another machine in the local network (using the loopback option) and
booting my computer with the bootdisk for NFS installation. Then I have
chosen the other machine as server, mounting the directory with the
mounted CD image.

I have found the following bugs after the installation with the
graphical installer (mode 'expert'):

 - The frame buffer kernel (*mdkfb) has no Reiser-FS support.

 - My sound board (Soundblaster AWE ISA) was not installed automatically
by the graphical installer. An installation with
   the program sounddrake worked without problems, so the installation
of the sound board should be easily possible by the 
   graphical installer.

 - The most recent stable version of X-CD-Roast is 0.96ex2, the version
coming with Mandrake 7.1 is only 0.96e. That old 
   version has still a bug in the nonroot-mode and the cdparanoia
support. So it should be updated. Get it from 
   www.xcdroast.org.

 - The monitor names in XFdrake are somewhat strange, I couldn't find
the EIZO F78.

 - By default there are no symbols for often used programs in the panel
of KDE. In 7.0 this symbols still were available.

 - There is no button or desktop symbol for getting a terminal window
(konsole). konsole is also not listed in the terminal 
   section of the KDE menu.

 - I added some partitions on external NFS servers to the /etc/fstab.
They are not mounted automatically at boot time, but
   entering 'mount -a' manually mounts them.

Some suggestions:

 - Compile the driver for IDE CD-ROM drives as module so that the driver
can be unloaded and replaced by the IDE-SCSI 
   emulation. So IDE CD-writers can be used without recompiling the
kernel. Change kudzu for automatic detection of 
   CD-writers to load the correct driver module.

 - Reiser-FS should be the default file system in general. It does not
only make sense in high-availability servers, but 
   also in notebooks and home computers which are booted very often. So
the fsck after 10 or 20 boots is avoided.

   Till