Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-04-03 Thread Daniel Serodio


On 08/03/2001 11:37:25 -0300 Andrej Borsenkow wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> 
> > On Tuesday 06 March 2001 18:35, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> > > So sprach Andrej Borsenkow am Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:57:47AM +0300:
> > > > > > Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot
> > > > >
> > > > > imagine how
> > > > >
> > > > > > could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on
> 17"
> > > > > > monitor before :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > So how do you change the number of lines you can scroll back and
> > > > > review with
> > > > > shift/pageup?
> > > >
> > > > Sorry? Can you elaborate? I could never scroll console, with or
> > > > without frambuffer.
> > >
> > > SHIFT+PageUp / PageDown scrolls the console.
> > >
> >
> > Hey, that would be really useful - but it doesn't do it on my box.
> >
> 
> Nor does it here. Hence I was a bit surprised.

It works, but if you change consoles (Alt+F1, etc) it "forgets" the
scroll buffer of the previous console.

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Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-09 Thread Andrej Borsenkow

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Peter Ruskin wrote:

> On Tuesday 06 March 2001 18:35, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> > So sprach Andrej Borsenkow am Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:57:47AM +0300:
> > > > > Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot
> > > >
> > > > imagine how
> > > >
> > > > > could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17"
> > > > > monitor before :-)
> > > >
> > > > So how do you change the number of lines you can scroll back and
> > > > review with
> > > > shift/pageup?
> > >
> > > Sorry? Can you elaborate? I could never scroll console, with or
> > > without frambuffer.
> >
> > SHIFT+PageUp / PageDown scrolls the console.
> >
>
> Hey, that would be really useful - but it doesn't do it on my box.
>

Nor does it here. Hence I was a bit surprised.

-andrej





Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-07 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Tuesday 06 March 2001 18:35, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> So sprach Andrej Borsenkow am Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:57:47AM +0300:
> > > > Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot
> > >
> > > imagine how
> > >
> > > > could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17"
> > > > monitor before :-)
> > >
> > > So how do you change the number of lines you can scroll back and
> > > review with
> > > shift/pageup?
> >
> > Sorry? Can you elaborate? I could never scroll console, with or
> > without frambuffer.
>
> SHIFT+PageUp / PageDown scrolls the console.
>

Hey, that would be really useful - but it doesn't do it on my box.
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Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-06 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Andrej Borsenkow am Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:57:47AM +0300:
> > > Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot
> > imagine how
> > > could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17" monitor
> > > before :-)
> >
> > So how do you change the number of lines you can scroll back and
> > review with
> > shift/pageup?
> >
> 
> Sorry? Can you elaborate? I could never scroll console, with or without
> frambuffer.

SHIFT+PageUp / PageDown scrolls the console.

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RE: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-05 Thread Andrej Borsenkow

> > Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot
> imagine how
> > could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17" monitor
> > before :-)
>
> So how do you change the number of lines you can scroll back and
> review with
> shift/pageup?
>

Sorry? Can you elaborate? I could never scroll console, with or without
frambuffer.

-andrej





Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-05 Thread Ed Wilts

On Monday 05 March 2001 00:59, Andrej Borsenkow wrote:
> > So sprach Armisis Aieoln am Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:49:45PM -0500:

> > BTW: How do I ENABLE Aurora?  I've installed the Aurora RPM, what should
> > I do next?
>
> Enable framebuffer - add vga=xxx to boot section in lilo (do not ask about
> grub). Look in frambuffer howto how modes are computed.

It's done the same way in grub.  Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add something 
like vga=791 (1024x768x16bit) to the end of the line.  Here's a cut from my 
menu.lst

title linux
kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5  hdd=ide-scsi vga=791

Then run the script /boot/grub/install.sh

> Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot imagine how
> could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17" monitor
> before :-)

So how do you change the number of lines you can scroll back and review with 
shift/pageup?

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RE: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-05 Thread Andrej Borsenkow


>
> > Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot
> imagine how
> > could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17" monitor
> > before :-) -andrej
>
> Actually I do not like framebuffer - it's noticeably slower than pure text
> output.
>

It's a matter of taste. It is fast enough for me (I cannot read faster anyway)
and I like look'n'feel of it.

>
> But does this mean that I have to use Framebuffer when I want to
> use Aurora?
> I don't think I'd actually like this (since it's too slow...)
>

AFAIK you can use famebuffer or dedicated X server. I never tried the latter.


-andrej





RE: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-05 Thread Alexander Skwar

Andrej Borsenkow said:

> Enable framebuffer - add vga=xxx to boot section in lilo (do not ask about
> grub). Look in frambuffer howto how modes are computed. 

Thanks, I will do!

> Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot imagine how
> could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17" monitor
> before :-) -andrej

Actually I do not like framebuffer - it's noticeably slower than pure text
output.

And as far as 80x24 is concerned - simply change the font to something
smaller, and you'll get 80x50 - which is good enough for *ME*. No need for
framebuffer just for this. And 132xXX is just too damn small for my eyes on
a 17".

But does this mean that I have to use Framebuffer when I want to use Aurora? 
I don't think I'd actually like this (since it's too slow...)

Hmm, are there any advantages in using framebuffer?

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RE: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-05 Thread Andrej Borsenkow

>
>
> So sprach Armisis Aieoln am Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:49:45PM -0500:
> > The old Aurora in 7.2 was ok cause showed a list not just
> flashing words so
> > fast one cant read it like the new one.  The new one is of no use
> to me and i
> > cant figure out how to get rid of it.
>
> rpm -e Aurora
>
> BTW: How do I ENABLE Aurora?  I've installed the Aurora RPM, what should I
> do next?
>

Enable framebuffer - add vga=xxx to boot section in lilo (do not ask about
grub). Look in frambuffer howto how modes are computed.

Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot imagine how
could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on 17" monitor
before :-)

-andrej





Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-04 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach andre am Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:38:29AM +0100:
> There are 4 Aurora packages. Install one of the 3 left

The *monitor packages?  Doesn't work, since they are, like someone else
already said, still at -120mdk and require Aurora -120mdk, which is not
available.

But okay, assuming that they were at -121mdk: Would this be all I had to do?

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Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-04 Thread andre

> 
> So sprach Armisis Aieoln am Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:49:45PM -0500:
> > The old Aurora in 7.2 was ok cause showed a list not just flashing words so
> > fast one cant read it like the new one.  The new one is of no use to me and i
> > cant figure out how to get rid of it.
> 
> rpm -e Aurora
> 
> BTW: How do I ENABLE Aurora?  I've installed the Aurora RPM, what should I
> do next?

There are 4 Aurora packages. Install one of the 3 left


> 
> > Once it is informitive for troubleshooting (expecialy always running a
> > cookerversion like i do) then i would be glad to use it!!
> 
> For troubleshooting, I think that especially Aurora is of no use at all.  I
> even set in /etc/sysconfig/init BOOTUP=verbose, so that the messages printed
> during boot are somewhat more informative.
> 
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Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-04 Thread Armisis Aieoln

Thank you Alexander, that took care of my problem!

Dave


On Sunday 04 March 2001 18:45, you wrote:
> So sprach Armisis Aieoln am Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:49:45PM -0500:
> > The old Aurora in 7.2 was ok cause showed a list not just flashing words
> > so fast one cant read it like the new one.  The new one is of no use to
> > me and i cant figure out how to get rid of it.
>
> rpm -e Aurora
>
> BTW: How do I ENABLE Aurora?  I've installed the Aurora RPM, what should I
> do next?
>
> > Once it is informitive for troubleshooting (expecialy always running a
> > cookerversion like i do) then i would be glad to use it!!
>
> For troubleshooting, I think that especially Aurora is of no use at all.  I
> even set in /etc/sysconfig/init BOOTUP=verbose, so that the messages
> printed during boot are somewhat more informative.
>
> Alexander Skwar




Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2001-03-04 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Armisis Aieoln am Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:49:45PM -0500:
> The old Aurora in 7.2 was ok cause showed a list not just flashing words so
> fast one cant read it like the new one.  The new one is of no use to me and i
> cant figure out how to get rid of it.

rpm -e Aurora

BTW: How do I ENABLE Aurora?  I've installed the Aurora RPM, what should I
do next?

> Once it is informitive for troubleshooting (expecialy always running a
> cookerversion like i do) then i would be glad to use it!!

For troubleshooting, I think that especially Aurora is of no use at all.  I
even set in /etc/sysconfig/init BOOTUP=verbose, so that the messages printed
during boot are somewhat more informative.

Alexander Skwar
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