Re: Frozen G3 PB up wake up

2003-06-28 Thread Ben Reser
On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 08:50:14AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I see where you are going with this, but I don't understand why the wake 
 up sequence would not complete (that is my PCMCIA slot doesn't beep, and 
 the network interface doesn't come up). I would think that if XFree had 
 indeed locked up the screen and the keyboard that I would still have net 
 access, and be able to kill X remotely, yes?

Well I missed that part of it not waking up.  But in my experience with
my powerbook in 8.2.  If you had X running in the foreground when it
wokeup it would hard freeze the machine and you couldn't even get into
the machine from the network.  Same machine works fine with 9.1 though.
:)

 I have tried the apm_emu suggestion (I don't ever recall having to do it 
 in the past, but perhaps it was done for me) and it has been about 10 
 sleeps so far without a crash).

Great glad you found a solution that's working for you.

P.S. I put this back on the list so people would realize you found a
solution to your problem...

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Re: Frozen G3 PB up wake up

2003-06-27 Thread danny
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I am hoping someone has some info on what I am seeing on my G3 PB 
 (Pismo). Occationally (say once every 50 sleep/wake-up cycles) the PB 
 freezes upon wake up. Here's what I observe:
 
 * PB goes to sleep normally up closing the lid (or appears to)
 * Lifting the lid initiates wake-up,
   o The screen appears
   o The backlight comes on
   o The hard drive spins up
 * However the computer is frozen, no mouse, no activity on the
   screen, the PB will not return pings from another computer
 
 I have examined /var/log/messages for any clues. All I see is the PB 
 going to sleep (PMUD entries), and then a restart is the next line. I 
 haven't been able to correlate it to any application (for a while I 
 thought it was ethereal, but I can't reliably recreate it)
 
 I am running the stock Mandrake 9.1 kernel
^^ this could be part of the problem.

But it can also be that apm emulation is not loaded. You have to load a 
module, i forget the name, apm something. Check if /var/log/XFree.0.log 
complains about apm not being found. If so, put that module in 
/etc/modules so it gets loaded at boot.

For me apm emulation was not sufficient to get it working perfectly with
mdk kernel, also the benh kernel in 9.1 was not good enough, it worked
reliable using a newer benh kernel and vide=radeonfb in yaboot.conf.
2.4.20-benh10 is on the club site in testing (including some mdk patches
like supermount).  Planning to put 2.4.21-benh1 in cooker contrib soon
(I'm finishing up lowlatency kernel for i586 first).


d.





Re: Frozen G3 PB up wake up - apm_emu now loaded

2003-06-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

Hi All,

I am hoping someone has some info on what I am seeing on my G3 PB 
(Pismo). Occationally (say once every 50 sleep/wake-up cycles) the PB 
freezes upon wake up. Here's what I observe:

   * PB goes to sleep normally up closing the lid (or appears to)
   * Lifting the lid initiates wake-up,
 o The screen appears
 o The backlight comes on
 o The hard drive spins up
   * However the computer is frozen, no mouse, no activity on the
 screen, the PB will not return pings from another computer
I have examined /var/log/messages for any clues. All I see is the PB 
going to sleep (PMUD entries), and then a restart is the next line. I 
haven't been able to correlate it to any application (for a while I 
thought it was ethereal, but I can't reliably recreate it)

I am running the stock Mandrake 9.1 kernel
   

^^ this could be part of the problem.

But it can also be that apm emulation is not loaded. You have to load a 
module, i forget the name, apm something. Check if /var/log/XFree.0.log 
complains about apm not being found. If so, put that module in 
/etc/modules so it gets loaded at boot.

For me apm emulation was not sufficient to get it working perfectly with
mdk kernel, also the benh kernel in 9.1 was not good enough, it worked
reliable using a newer benh kernel and vide=radeonfb in yaboot.conf.
2.4.20-benh10 is on the club site in testing (including some mdk patches
like supermount).  Planning to put 2.4.21-benh1 in cooker contrib soon
(I'm finishing up lowlatency kernel for i586 first).
d.
 

Danny,

I did find that the apm_emu wasn't loading (and XFree.0.log was 
reporting it). I have loaded the module, restarted X, and now I get a 
nice message (in the XFree.0.log) that Open APM sucessful.

I do see a change on the screen at wake up now, where the screen looks 
like it is way zoomed in (pixelated) and black and white, but after X 
does its refresh upon waking up, my screen is back to normal. I assume 
this is part of the APM emulation thing.

I don't know if this will fix it (hopefully it will). I'll run this way 
and see if I don't get any more freezes.

Thanks for the help,

Craig...





Re: Frozen G3 PB up wake up

2003-06-27 Thread Ben Reser
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 09:06:24AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am hoping someone has some info on what I am seeing on my G3 PB 
 (Pismo). Occationally (say once every 50 sleep/wake-up cycles) the PB 
 freezes upon wake up. Here's what I observe:
 
* PB goes to sleep normally up closing the lid (or appears to)
* Lifting the lid initiates wake-up,
  o The screen appears
  o The backlight comes on
  o The hard drive spins up
* However the computer is frozen, no mouse, no activity on the
  screen, the PB will not return pings from another computer
 
 I have examined /var/log/messages for any clues. All I see is the PB 
 going to sleep (PMUD entries), and then a restart is the next line. I 
 haven't been able to correlate it to any application (for a while I 
 thought it was ethereal, but I can't reliably recreate it)

In the past things like this have been bugs in the XFree86 code.  If you
switch to a VT before putting the PB to sleep and then switch back to X
after and it works then it is a XFree86 bug.

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Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://ben.reser.org

What upsets me is not that you lied to me, but that from now on I can
no longer believe you. -- Nietzsche