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-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > >If you want to know how much evidence Jack Thompson has, e-mail him or >write >him a letter, both addresses have been widely distributed on the Internet. > I don't really care, one way or the other. Either way, she's scum. Either way it's irrelevent. Her predecessor was scum. Her successor will be scum. It's part of the job description. Whoever is AG, whoever is president, they will take their orders from our unelected true rulers. Forget politicians. Go after their masters. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Better get a bigger dictionary. According to my Illustrated Encyclopedic Dictionary, Boogiemen are hobgoblin's or a terrifying specter. I never bother to point out peoples typo's or invented words, but in your case I was trying to make a point. Unfortunately, you do not seem to be able to understand it. If you want to know how much evidence Jack Thompson has, e-mail him or write him a letter, both addresses have been widely distributed on the Internet. Gavin. << You're damn right it is. Except it's spelled "bogeyman." The derivation is Scots. Look it up. Radar "bogeys" derive from the same source. It's a kind of Scots ghost. "Boogie" is derived from the African word "m'bugi," best known as part of a phrase imported to the States from the Congo basin, "m'bugi m'vugi" which means "to take off your clothes to have a party." In America this mutated into "boogie woogie," a piano style noted for its syncopated left hand. Now let's talk political history and leave the grammar for a listserv devoted to grammar. >> http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I suspect that we might find >that the US, to maintain its improving relations with China, might have >decided not to make too much of an issue of direct Chinese support for >the KR >during the 1970s. That's enough, right there. Though frankly, considering the state of Chinese-Vietnamese relations at the time I doubt if China would have cut the KR loose even if the US had raised a very big stink. Given the state of US-Vietnamese relations at the time, that the US might rise a stink at all about the KR or anybody else fighting the Vietnamese, was pretty unlikely. None the less, the US (and its allies) committed a major "sin of ommission" even if all they did was turn a blind eye. Given America's history of backing every tin horn tyrant and tyrant wannabe for as long as anybody can remember, I find it difficult to believe that the direct, covert aid to the KR only started up after the bulk of the killing was over. But if truly it didn't start until then the crime is greater because the US government knew exactly who they were helping. What a sick world. It's enough to make one puke. > >After the KR fell in 1979, well, besides aiding the KR and >other anti-Vietnamese groups through Thailand it might be possible that >Washington made efforts to support the KR through Beijing, but in the >absence >of evidence I'd hesitate to claim that it was so. What I'm really looking for is some proof of direct aid laundered through China the way aid was later laundered through Thailand. I guess we're going to have to wait till one of the men involved gets religion or something and confesses in public. Things like this happen sometimes so let's hope. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] child pronography Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Janet Reno would curb press free.
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- >How about through China? You have anything on that? That's something I haven't explored nor would I pretend to know much about it. However, if I may indulge in some speculation, I suspect that we might find that the US, to maintain its improving relations with China, might have decided not to make too much of an issue of direct Chinese support for the KR during the 1970s. After the KR fell in 1979, well, besides aiding the KR and other anti-Vietnamese groups through Thailand it might be possible that Washington made efforts to support the KR through Beijing, but in the absence of evidence I'd hesitate to claim that it was so. BD. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Wrong. He has evidence, Perhaps. However, talking about evidence is hearsay. Presenting evidence is quite another matter. > >That is right. She knows he speaks the truth and can prove it. Maybe. Or maybe she realizes that mounting a legal defense in this case would just publicize the charges and convince many people they were true. > >> > > >1. If you see nothing wrong with the Attorney General using prostitutes >then >we are poles apart on what we expect morally and ethically from very >highly >placed government officials. That we are. I see no reason there should BE an attorney general. > > > >2. Such an outburst, which has absolutely nothing to do with what I >posted. >Better read it again. North was only asking a question, *Jack Thompson* >is the one stating Reno uses call girls. People are known by the company keep. Any friend of Oldie North is suspect from the get go. > >Once again. The Bush administration, for all it's corruption, can hardly >be >blamed for the Waco atrocity. In part it can. They set it up. > > >I'm not getting through. I'll try again. I'm not extricating >law-enforcement >from their culpability in this appalling mass murder, but they are the >foot >soldiers and take their orders from Clinton and Reno. It doesn't excuse them. > > >> > >Comparing the depravity of people based on how many they are responsible >for >killing is a useless exercise. Hitler killed more people than Ted Bundy, >Stalin killed more than Pinochet. So what? They are all savage mass >murderers. Indeed. That being equal though, let's look at it from the victim's viewpoint. More victims means more suffering. More suffering is worse than less suffering. > > >Reno is not equal in body count but she is equally corrupted. You think >that >she draws any moral boundaries on how much corruption or how many murders >are >okay? Oh no. I'm not saying that at all. She's scum. But the amount of harm she can do is dictated by her power, not her personality. > > > >Once again, she holds one of the most powerful positions in our government >now and deserves close scrutiny. > > Indeed. But don't think for a moment that the next guy to hold the office will be any better. Ain't gonna happen. > > >> >>As important as history is, they are implementing their agendas here > >>and now so they should be scrutinized as closely as possible. > > >You are stating the obvious which is of no use. Let me reiterate. A s >important as history is, they are implementing their agendas here and >now so they should be scrutinized as closely as possible. > > Agreed. But let's not ignore the historical process that enabled them. > >> >> >> >> >>I'm not lecturing anybody, you are, I'm stating my opinion. Exactly. Why not instead state facts, backed up with evidence? > >We are all >ignorant of many things, but instead of enlightening people you choose to >denigrate them while trying to make cheap points. Indicative of a pitiful >character. > You're distracting us from an understanding of the historical process, which is far more important than the actions of any single individual. I'm not denigrating "people." I'm not even denigrating you. I'm denigrating your lack of historical perspective and your inability to tell you're pet peeves from what's truly important. And not just you. A lot of people do that here. I jump on most of them for it, at least once. It's my duty as a historian. > >> > >John Mitchell, Attorney General during Nixon's presidency, was convicted >of >conspiracy to obstruct justice in the Watergate cover-up trial and served >19 >months of a 2 1/2-to-8 year prison sentence. > > >He also was a war hero though, his friend Richard Moore, in a eulogy, >noted >that near Mitchell's grave in Arlington National Cemetery was the >headstone >of Colonel Gregory ''Pappy'' Boyington, a Medal of Honor winner who used >to >call Mitchell yearly to thank him for saving his life. > Now THAT's more like it. Except of course that there is some question as to how much of the 19 months he actually served. But be that as it may, you would be better off separating Reno's personal life from her public one. Like John Mitchell, I'm sure Reno has good points and bad. However, the only ones which are really relevant to the public are those that have an effect on her public performance. George Bush Sr. was also a war hero. He risked his life fighting the spread of Japanese imperialism. It doesn't excuse what he did in the Gulf. For that matter, Hitler was always very kind to (German) children and dogs. He was also a riveting speaker, and according to Infield, he did a very funny impression of Goering when Goering was out of the room. None of these things excuse what he did to the world. Nor are they particularly relevant. Neither is Reno's sex life. Neither is Clinton's. Neither are yours or mine. What people do in bed is th
[CTRL] child pronography Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Janet Reno would curb press free.
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- > >Either he is lying through his teeth and risking his livelihood, >credibility >and a massive lawsuit by Reno, or what he has repeatedly stated is true >and >he does have a substantial amount of evidence to back up his statements Either way, it's hearsay. Gavin; Wrong. He has evidence, which must be very strong otherwise he would not be risking his career and financial ruin for saying it. > > > >Which again raises the point I made previously which you conveniently >ignored, and that is, why hasn't Reno sued him for slander and libel? Good question. Maybe she has a competent lawyer. Gavin; That is right. She knows he speaks the truth and can prove it. > > > > North: Janet Reno uses call girls? (1.) If she uses call girls, so what? Prostitution is a job like any other. It's no different than hiring a masseur or a psychotherapist. (2.) Ollie North is a liar. He lied to Congress. He lied to the American people. He was deeply involved at a command level in the running of cocaine and the arming of death squads during the Contra war. He has a lot of damn gall to criticize anybody, even Reno, for as harmless an act as hiring a prostitute. Gavin 1. If you see nothing wrong with the Attorney General using prostitutes then we are poles apart on what we expect morally and ethically from very highly placed government officials. 2. Such an outburst, which has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted. Better read it again. North was only asking a question, *Jack Thompson* is the one stating Reno uses call girls. I've posted it again below to help jog your memory. Nice try at changing the subject though. North: Janet Reno uses call girls? Thompson: Ollie, let me tell you something. I've welcomed Janet Reno to sue me for the last decade while I've said these things, and more importantly, the Florida Bar - which is filled with politically correct [people], some of them her campaign contributors in the race she ran against me. The Florida Bar has every reason to disbar me if I am not telling the truth. I've put my law career on the line by making these allegations. But I have the proof. And I have people independent of me that can prove this." > > > >The Bush administration, for all it's corruption, can hardly be blamed for >the Waco atrocity. They set it up. Gavin; Once again. The Bush administration, for all it's corruption, can hardly be blamed for the Waco atrocity. > >I'm not extricating law-enforcement from their >culpability in this appalling mass murder, but they are the foot soldiers >and >take their orders from Clinton and Reno. > That was Eichmann's excuse. Gavin; I'm not getting through. I'll try again. I'm not extricating law-enforcement from their culpability in this appalling mass murder, but they are the foot soldiers and take their orders from Clinton and Reno. > >I am fully aware of many of America's past despicable acts. That does not >change or belittle Janet Reno, Bill and Hilary Clinton's positions in the >hall of infamy's top 10 most evil people in American politics in the last >60 >years. Reno's soldiers killed 89 people at Waco. Pol Pot's soldiers, with the blessings and assisstance of the American government killed half the population of Cambodia. Surely you can't mean they are equals. Gavin; Comparing the depravity of people based on how many they are responsible for killing is a useless exercise. Hitler killed more people than Ted Bundy, Stalin killed more than Pinochet. So what? They are all savage mass murderers. Reno is not equal in body count but she is equally corrupted. You think that she draws any moral boundaries on how much corruption or how many murders are okay? Once again, she holds one of the most powerful positions in our government now and deserves close scrutiny. > >As important as history is, they are implementing their agendas here >and now so they should be scrutinized as closely as possible. History is a continuum. What's happening now is happening because of things that happened in the past. No exceptions. Gavin; You are stating the obvious which is of no use. Let me reiterate. As important as history is, they are implementing their agendas here and now so they should be scrutinized as closely as possible. > > > > >I have no idea who John Mitchell is. Then you have a lot of damn gall to be lecturing us about politics. Go back to school. Learn what you are talking about. Then lecture us about politics. Gavin; I'm not lecturing anybody, you are, I'm stating my opinion. We are all ignorant of many things, but instead of enlightening people you choose to denigrate them while trying to make cheap points. Indicative of a pitiful character. > >The three most egregious cover-ups during Clinton's tenure are Waco, >The Oklahoma City bombing and TWA 800. These mark his presidency at least >in >the top 3 as the most corrupted in American history, in my opinion. You don
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > >US indirectly supported the KR How about through China? You have anything on that? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] child pronography Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Janet Reno would curb press free.
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- >Reno's soldiers killed 89 people at Waco. Pol Pot's soldiers, with the >blessings and assisstance of the American government killed half the >population of Cambodia. Surely you can't mean they are equals. The "blessings and assistance of the American government"? Are you sure about that? It's not like the US actually represented a higher level of government in IndoChina and just decided that it would let the KR have the run of things. The KR did overthrow the existing government at the time - a government the US had propped up. And later the KR did hijack a US ship which required US marines to go into KR controlled Cambodia at considerable loss of life to rescue the ship's crew. Hardly the actions likely to encourage the US to assist the KR. There is evidence that US indirectly supported the KR via Thailand's support for the anti-Vietnamese forces, but that was after the main orgy of violence had occurred under Pol Pot's regime. Otherwise, yes, your right, it's a long bow to liken Pol Pot to Clinton BD http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] child pronography Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Janet Reno would curb press free.
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- > >Either he is lying through his teeth and risking his livelihood, >credibility >and a massive lawsuit by Reno, or what he has repeatedly stated is true >and >he does have a substantial amount of evidence to back up his statements Either way, it's hearsay. > > > >Which again raises the point I made previously which you conveniently >ignored, and that is, why hasn't Reno sued him for slander and libel? Good question. Maybe she has a competent lawyer. > > > > North: Janet Reno uses call girls? (1.) If she uses call girls, so what? Prostitution is a job like any other. It's no different than hiring a masseur or a psychotherapist. (2.) Ollie North is a liar. He lied to Congress. He lied to the American people. He was deeply involved at a command level in the running of cocaine and the arming of death squads during the Contra war. He has a lot of damn gall to criticize anybody, even Reno, for as harmless an act as hiring a prostitute. > > > >The Bush administration, for all it's corruption, can hardly be blamed for >the Waco atrocity. They set it up. > >I'm not extricating law-enforcement from their >culpability in this appalling mass murder, but they are the foot soldiers >and >take their orders from Clinton and Reno. > That was Eichmann's excuse. > >I am fully aware of many of America's past despicable acts. That does not >change or belittle Janet Reno, Bill and Hilary Clinton's positions in the >hall of infamy's top 10 most evil people in American politics in the last >60 >years. Reno's soldiers killed 89 people at Waco. Pol Pot's soldiers, with the blessings and assisstance of the American government killed half the population of Cambodia. Surely you can't mean they are equals. > >As important as history is, they are implementing their agendas here >and now so they should be scrutinized as closely as possible. History is a continuum. What's happening now is happening because of things that happened in the past. No exceptions. > > > > >I have no idea who John Mitchell is. Then you have a lot of damn gall to be lecturing us about politics. Go back to school. Learn what you are talking about. Then lecture us about politics. > >The three most egregious cover-ups during Clinton's tenure are Waco, >The Oklahoma City bombing and TWA 800. These mark his presidency at least >in >the top 3 as the most corrupted in American history, in my opinion. You don't even know who John Mitchell was and yet you think you can rate the relative corruptedness of the various presidencies!?! Come on, man. Be realistic. We aren't all fools here, you know. > > In any event, it doesn't matter who the president is. The president is a puppet, no more, no less. The real power is behind the scenes. > >> >> > >If the most powerful individuals are totally corrupted, it is better to >focus >on them. They are corrupt because the system corrupts them. Power corrupts. As long as we as a society, we as a species, give power to individuals those individuals will be corrupted buy it. It's only human nature. > >They are making the laws and policy's. They make laws their masters pay them to make. Their masters make the policies. > > > > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- > >The proof is widespread. The most flagrant comes from repeated statements >by >attorney Jack Thompson about Janet Reno's sexual depravity and alcoholism. Hearsay. Inadmissable. Gavin; Baloney. Thompson has collected a large amount of evidence regarding Reno's sexual predilections and alcoholism from when he worked in Florida and she was State Attorney. He publicly accused her of not investigating a child pornography ring when they threatened to expose her lesbianism. Either he is lying through his teeth and risking his livelihood, credibility and a massive lawsuit by Reno, or what he has repeatedly stated is true and he does have a substantial amount of evidence to back up his statements Which again raises the point I made previously which you conveniently ignored, and that is, why hasn't Reno sued him for slander and libel? As Thompson says in an interview published in Worldnetdaily North: Janet Reno uses call girls? Thompson: Ollie, let me tell you something. Ive welcomed Janet Reno to sue me for the last decade while Ive said these things, and more importantly, the Florida Bar which is filled with politically correct [people], some of them her campaign contributors in the race she ran against me. The Florida Bar has every reason to disbar me if I am not telling the truth. Ive put my law career on the line by making these allegations. But I have the proof. And I have people independent of me that can prove this. Also see Michael Rivero's article at; www.accessone.com/~rivero/POLITICS/ARTICLES/RENO.html > >She is responsible for the Waco tragedy and FBI/ATF orchestrated mass >murder. She was partly responsible. Ultimately, the blame lies with Clinton as ranking official at the time. However, we must remember that the Waco situation was set up during the Bush administration and was carried out, not by politicians, but by law enforcement. Gavin; The Bush administration, for all it's corruption, can hardly be blamed for the Waco atrocity. Yes, Clinton is responsible, as is Janet Reno for doing exactly what Clinton wanted. I'm not extricating law-enforcement from their culpability in this appalling mass murder, but they are the foot soldiers and take their orders from Clinton and Reno. Reno does whatever is necessary to keep Clinton in power, because that is how she remains in power. > > >She is one of the most repugnant and rapacious human beings I have ever >come >across. She's certainly repugnant and rapacious. But there are many worse. Gavin; No there are not. She has no conscience or vestige of human decency. She is at the mercy of her own foul desires and vices and will do whatever is asked of her. She would gladly have piled the Jews into the trains going to Treblinka and Dachau. > >Bill, Hilary and Reno has to be one of the most nefarious alliances >in American history. Of recent, public history, yes. But there are far more nefarious alliances, not all of them public. This one is just in the news a lot. But compare it to the US intelligence community's Paperclip embrace of Nazi science after WWII, it's ongoing alliance with the narco-fascistas and death squads of Latin America or the State Department's years of military and financial support for Pol Pot. Compare it to the long standing and ongoing use of the public as mind control and bio-war guinea pigs. Get a sense of porportion. Gavin; I am fully aware of many of America's past despicable acts. That does not change or belittle Janet Reno, Bill and Hilary Clinton's positions in the hall of infamy's top 10 most evil people in American politics in the last 60 years. As important as history is, they are implementing their agendas here and now so they should be scrutinized as closely as possible. > > > >Reno's litany of perfidy and covering Clinton's ass whilst Attorney >General is >well documented and is blatantly obvious to anybody but the incurably >ignorant. No question about that. But it's nothing new. Remember John Mitchell? Gavin; I have no idea who John Mitchell is. Just because it is nothing new does not mean I will stand idly by and say, owe, so-and-so was far worse back in the 70's. The three most egregious cover-ups during Clinton's tenure are Waco, The Oklahoma City bombing and TWA 800. These mark his presidency at least in the top 3 as the most corrupted in American history, in my opinion. > > This is the nature of politicians and their flunkies. To expect better is nieve. Gavin; Not to work to make it better is to quit. I will choose my way, you choose yours. Rather than focus on individuals in power we would do better to focus on the system itself. Gavin; If the most powerful individuals are totally corrupted, it is better to focus on them. They are making the laws and policy's. It is the system that is the real enemy because it is the system that give scum like this the
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- > >The proof is widespread. The most flagrant comes from repeated statements >by >attorney Jack Thompson about Janet Reno's sexual depravity and alcoholism. Hearsay. Inadmissable. > >She is responsible for the Waco tragedy and FBI/ATF orchestrated mass >murder. She was partly responsible. Ultimately, the blame lies with Clinton as ranking official at the time. However, we must remember that the Waco situation was set up during the Bush administration and was carried out, not by politicians, but by law enforcement. > > >She is one of the most repugnant and rapacious human beings I have ever >come >across. She's certainly repugnant and rapacious. But there are many worse. > >Bill, Hilary and Reno has to be one of the most nefarious alliances >in American history. Of recent, public history, yes. But there are far more nefarious alliances, not all of them public. This one is just in the news a lot. But compare it to the US intelligence community's Paperclip embrace of Nazi science after WWII, it's ongoing alliance with the narco-fascistas and death squads of Latin America or the State Department's years of military and financial support for Pol Pot. Compare it to the long standing and ongoing use of the public as mind control and bio-war guinea pigs. Get a sense of porportion. > > > >Reno's litany of perfidy and covering Clintons ass whilst Attorney >General is >well documented and is blatantly obvious to anybody but the incurably >ignorant. No question about that. But it's nothing new. Remember John Mitchell? > > This is the nature of politicians and their flunkies. To expect better is nieve. Rather than focus on individuals in power we would do better to focus on the system itself. It is the system that is the real enemy because it is the system that give scum like this the opportunity to practice their evil. Electoral politics is glorified pond water; scum rises. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- << nessie wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> > -Cui Bono?- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Reno is an alcoholic, depraved pedophile herself. > > And the proof of this is? > >> The proof is widespread. The most flagrant comes from repeated statements by attorney Jack Thompson about Janet Reno's sexual depravity and alcoholism. (more information posted to CTRL by Richard Sampson) He was on the cover of February 1999 Media Bypass magazine and again repeated these statements. Also in that article Miami police chief Ken Harms is quoted as saying; "Janet Reno is not qualified to be even an Assistant State Attorney, let alone the (Chief)State Attorney in Florida, or Attorney General of the United States." Ken Harms was never called to testify. Jack Thompson states in Pat Shannan's February 1999 Media Bypass article; "Jack Thompson goes further and publicly accuses Janet Reno of suppressing at least five DUI arrests of her own in her home county. One female cop stopped Reno's car after it was seen weaving down the road. The officer was shocked to see that the driver was none other than the icon of the court, Janet Reno, with her shoes removed, stockings torn, and vomited food stains covering the front of her dress.." "A Fort Lauderdale police officer found Janet Reno with an underage girl in the back seat of a car at the Galleria Mall. He, also, was never called to testify at the Senate hearings..." As he often says, the Florida bar has never disbarred him (although he sued them for one reason or another and won about $20,000) and Reno remains mute. He publicly accuses her of the most serious charges and she does not sue him for libel and slander? Go to www.newsmax.com and put Janet Reno in the search engine and it will return hundreds of articles. Reno was hand picked by Hilary and Bill exactly because of her pedophilia. She obsequiously serves Bill and Hilary and is the linchpin which has kept those two totally corrupted and nihilistic grifters in the Whitehouse for seven years. Larry Klayman said in a Worldnetdaily article by Stephen Archer; "...I am appalled and sickened by the misconduct of the Justice Department during the Clinton administration." She is responsible for the Waco tragedy and FBI/ATF orchestrated mass murder. She is one of the most repugnant and rapacious human beings I have ever come across. Bill, Hilary and Reno has to be one of the most nefarious alliances in American history. Reno's litany of perfidy and covering Clintons ass whilst Attorney General is well documented and is blatantly obvious to anybody but the incurably ignorant. Below is a Chris Ruddy article if you are interested. Analysis: Janet Reno -- the Cornerstone of the Clinton Cover-ups Christopher Ruddy June 14, 1999 Miami -- In the middle of the Chinagate scandal maelstrom sits U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno. Already several top lawmakers have called for her to resign. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Reno has managed "probably the most disgraceful Justice Department since the Teapot Dome scandal of 1923 when the attorney general had to resign because of corruption." Reno's efforts to cover-up for Chinagate, the Clinton's scandal du jour, are legion. But one fact stands out above all others: Reno refused to authorize a wiretap request in 1997, when the FBI wanted to monitor Los Alamos espionage suspect Wen Ho Lee. According to Investor's Business Daily, this was the only wiretap request she denied out of almost 2,700. Even before the Chinese nuclear espionage allegations shook the political landscape, Reno had been covering for the Clintons' special dealings with China. Despite the FBI director's recommendation and the request of a Justice Department official she appointed, Reno has steadfastly refused to appoint an independent counsel to investigate whether Clinton sold America's most sensitive nuclear and military secrets for campaign cash. Actually, Janet Reno has been in the middle of every maelstrom involving the Clintons since her appointment as Attorney General. From Waco to Travelgate to Vince Foster's death to Whitewater obstruction to China-Lippogate, Reno has done exactly what she was appointed to do. She has held the floodwaters of justice from ever reaching the Clinton White House. The truth is that Janet Reno was the most important appointment made to the Clinton cabinet. Bill and Hillary Clinton, professional white-collar criminals, knew that their attorney general would be critical to their hold on the presidency. They also knew their choice for the Cabinet post would come under close scrutiny by Senate Republicans. Eventually they settled on Reno, a Harvard Law School graduate, who had returned to her Miami, Florida home and become a local prosecutor before being named by Governor Reubin Askew as Dade County State Attorney. The Clintons' First Choice The way history records it, Janet R
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Check newspapers expressly Florida this has been posted to the list previously. Reno has a liking for young prostitutes and is not nice to them. She also gets drunk and drives fast. this seems to be Clinton's favorite, a potential security leak that has the potential of being blackmailed. Like puppet Clinton does she have a life of her own or is someone else always pulling the strings? Makes you wonder: do they still have someone change their diapers or did they ever learn to do that. Could be why he made that joke that Monica was just helping him with his zipper, maybe he really never was able to learn how to dress himself. nessie wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> > -Cui Bono?- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Reno is an alcoholic, depraved pedophile herself. > > And the proof of this is? > -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 NEW http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/site_map.htm http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >Reno is an alcoholic, depraved pedophile herself. And the proof of this is? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Reno is an alcoholic, depraved pedophile herself. That is how she got the job. Gavin http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
