RE: Can't make XWin on secondary monitor big enough...
Try putting in the -multiplemonitors option. When I had the same problem last year, the option helped. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 7:26 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: Can't make XWin on secondary monitor big enough... If you run XWin --help, you get the following: use: X [:display] [option] [snip] -screen scr_num [width height [x y] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Enable screen scr_num and optionally specify a width and height and initial position for that screen. Additionally a monitor number can be specified to start the server on, at which point, all coordinates become relative to that monitor (Not for Windows NT4 and 95). Examples: -screen 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 2nd monitor offset 100,100 size 800x600 -screen 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 3rd monitor size 1024x768 -screen 0 @1 ; on 1st monitor using its full resolution (the default) BTW - I didn't say so in my OP, but I also tried XWin -screen 0 @1, which is suggested above, and that only got me a 1024x768 windowed XWin on the secondary monitor. -Tom -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: problem displaying Java GUI
Should we need to install a new font type, namely, Fontstruct, into our PC, when enabling JFrame.setDefaultLookAndFeelDecorated. Did you have JDK installed on your PC? If not, would installing JDK5 on the PC supply the required font type? == Somewhat Important Disclaimer. == This email, while purporting to be true, should not have its purporting to be true be in any way that you might construe as legally binding as super-glue. While it tries not to spread viruses like flu, it may inflame emotions as within a chimney flue. It may demolish opinions of whoever's who, and throw conventions down the loo. So if any phrase herein turns you blue, don't rush to your attorney Sue Donahue, to turn me into hot burning stew. Then I'll be as if some Barrymore Drew had turned into a cow that does not moo. Perhaps, the depressing feeling running through when seeing all the entrapped animals in a zoo. I could have been enjoying too a nice plate of Gay-Pan-Moo-Goo, but if and when you're offended ... perhaps, it was simply about nothing and much a-do. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Patrick May Warning: Cannot convert string -monotype-arial-regular-r-normal--*-140-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1 to type FontStruct then nothing. This behavior occurs with both the -X and -Y ssh switches. Has anyone solved this problem? With fantastic timing, I've managed to eliminate the problem (although I haven't found a true solution). Removing the line: JFrame.setDefaultLookAndFeelDecorated(true); from my code allowed the GUI to run and be displayed on Windows. This suggests that the problem lies with the Solaris JDK rather than Cygwin. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Can't make XWin on secondary monitor big enough...
Isn't the command somewhat like this? ... XWin -screen 0 1000 768 blah blah I have yet to reach to the point in the cygwin/x docs where it allows the command with options such as -screen 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Are we allowed to specify arguments of this option this way? (I'm not too prone to reading user docs/guides until I get into trouble). My actual command is XWin -screen 0 1900 1400 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars -clipboard -silent-dup-error I believe multiplemonitors option allows cyg/x to recognise the second monitor and to allow you to move your cyg/x window to the second monitor, which I always do. I needed the scrollbars option for reasons I cannot clearly recall. Without the option, I seem to recall I could not stretch cyg/x window to the extremities of my large second monitor without maximizing the window. == Somewhat Important Disclaimer. == This email, while purporting to be true, should not have its purporting to be true be in any way that you might construe as legally binding as super-glue. While it tries not to spread viruses like flu, it may inflame emotions as within a chimney flue. It may demolish opinions of whoever's who, and throw conventions down the loo. So if any phrase herein turns you blue, don't rush to your attorney Sue Donahue, to turn me into hot burning stew. Then I'll be as if some Barrymore Drew had turned into a cow that does not moo. Perhaps, the depressing feeling running through when seeing all the entrapped animals in a zoo. I could have been enjoying too a nice plate of Gay-Pan-Moo-Goo, but if and when you're offended ... perhaps, it was simply about nothing and much a-do. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:42 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Can't make XWin on secondary monitor big enough... I've got a Thinkpad with a 1024x768 LCD screen connected to a 21 CRT monitor which I've enabled as a secondary monitor at 1600x1200 resolution. I'd like to run XWin in windowed mode on the secondary monitor and take up the full resolution. However, try as I might, I can't make XWin any bigger than 1024x768 on the secondary monitor. Here are the obvious command-lines I've tried: XWin -screen 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This results in a 1024x768 windowed XWin on the secondary monitor XWin -screen 0 @2 -fullscreen This results in a 1024x768 fullscreen XWin on the primary monitor Any ideas? -Tom -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Unable to Launch Java GUIs on Solaris 9 using XCygwin installed on a windows XP
I won't be saying I have the solution but I wish to clarify so that I could try out what you are doing. I need to clarify the part on We are unable to launch any of the Java GUIs using XCygwin. Let's say you have your PC and your Solaris9 machines. There are two possibilities. Let me know which case you are facing. Case 1. You started cygwin/x on PC You did a remote session (either ssh, telnet, otherwise) from PC to Solaris9. You successfully displayed a Solaris9 xterm (or dtterm, telnet) on the PC cygwin/x window. You were able to test run Solaris9 xclock to display on PC cygwin/x window. But when you attempted to run java someapplication, you encountered error (what's the error msg?) Case 2. You developed some java apps on Solaris9. You copied them to PC and attempted to run those java apps through PC cygwin/X. Case1 or Case2? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sunil Garg Sent: Thu, April 13, 2006 11:43 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Unable to Launch Java GUIs on Solaris 9 using XCygwin installed on a windows XP We have some applications with GUIs developed using Java AWT and SWING that are installed on a Solaris 9 machine. We have XCygwin installed on a Windows XP machine. We are unable to launch any of the Java GUIs using XCygwin. All Motif GUIs work fine. Has anyone else faced this problem ? -- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Unable to Launch Java GUIs on Solaris 9 using XCygwin installed on a windows XP
I am able to run $javahome/demo/jfc/Notepad/Notepad.jar without any problem. I started an xterm on my solaris9 machine but displaying it on my laptop cygwin/x. Then, I executed java -jar Notepad.jar on that solaris9 xterm and the java notepad app appeared as a cygwin/x window. Are you able to run the notepad demo java application from your solaris9 xterm? -Original Message- From: Sunil Garg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, April 14, 2006 12:17 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; Soong, SylokeJ Subject: Re: Unable to Launch Java GUIs on Solaris 9 using XCygwin installed on a windows XP Case1. Any suggestions are welcome. Soong, SylokeJ wrote: I won't be saying I have the solution but I wish to clarify so that I could try out what you are doing. I need to clarify the part on We are unable to launch any of the Java GUIs using XCygwin. Let's say you have your PC and your Solaris9 machines. There are two possibilities. Let me know which case you are facing. Case 1. You started cygwin/x on PC You did a remote session (either ssh, telnet, otherwise) from PC to Solaris9. You successfully displayed a Solaris9 xterm (or dtterm, telnet) on the PC cygwin/x window. You were able to test run Solaris9 xclock to display on PC cygwin/x window. But when you attempted to run java someapplication, you encountered error (what's the error msg?) Case 2. You developed some java apps on Solaris9. You copied them to PC and attempted to run those java apps through PC cygwin/X. Case1 or Case2? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: (n00b question) How does one activate the scrollbar in an xterm?
I have not done this with cygwin-x before, but I do it with my sun solaris. Create .Xdefaults at home directory if does not already exists. google or man xterm should tell you more. Enter/append lines similar to these: xterm*scrollBar: true xterm*saveLines: 4000 xterm*cursorColor: Red xterm*pointerColor: Blue xterm*borderColor: Red -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Philip H. Schlesinger Sent: Thu, April 06, 2006 12:23 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: (n00b question) How does one activate the scrollbar in an xterm? Hi all. I'm a *nix newbie. In M$ Windows, I can edit the properties of a console window and thus create a scrollback history. However, the xterms in Cygwin have no scrollbar. How does one activate the scrollbar and adjust the length of scrollback history? - Phil -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: (n00b question) How does one activate the scrollbar in an xterm?
I'm thinking that both .Xdefaults and xterm do not depend on the window mgr, so that .Xdefaults entries as well as xterm cmd options should function similarly on any x window mgr - at least when specifically about the xterm scroll history. Is its scroll history not controlled by xterm itself rather than by the window mgr? However, the shell we use and instructions we have for it might determine the length of command history (which is not within context of this discussion/list). ~I believe in G*d and Charles Darwin his Prophet. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alexander J. Herrmann Sent: Thu, April 06, 2006 1:45 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: (n00b question) How does one activate the scrollbar in an xterm? Philip H. Schlesinger wrote: Hi all. I'm a *nix newbie. In M$ Windows, I can edit the properties of a console window and thus create a scrollback history. However, the xterms in Cygwin have no scrollbar. How does one activate the scrollbar and adjust the length of scrollback history? haeh? I guess it depens on what windowmanager you use./ Mu xterm window has a history to the time -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: (n00b question) How does one activate the scrollbar in an xterm?
The little girl asked, When will the world end? The old man responded, When humans cease to exist. The old man added, However, the shell we inhabit might determine our length of days. The young man from askance joined in, xterm's not a shell. The little girl asked, When will humans cease to exist? The old man responded, When humans are no longer aware of themselves. The old man added, However, the shell we inhabit might determine our consciousness. The young man from askance joined in, xterm's not a shell. The little girl asked, When will humans no longer be aware of themselves? The old man responded, When xterm becomes a shell. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thomas Dickey Sent: Thu, April 06, 2006 3:20 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: (n00b question) How does one activate the scrollbar in an xterm? On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: I'm thinking that both .Xdefaults and xterm do not depend on the window mgr, so that .Xdefaults entries as well as xterm cmd options should function similarly on any x window mgr - at least when specifically about the xterm scroll history. Is its scroll history not controlled by xterm itself rather than by the window mgr? However, the shell we use and instructions we have for it might determine the length of command history (which is not within context of this discussion/list). xterm's not a shell; discussion of xterm is (usually) on-topic for this list. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: windows XP : cygwin -X server not opening
Returning from three weeks of vacation (one week in Montana then getting married in Israel), I am clearing my emails and I cannot resist but to defend Avinash. Or inadvertently, further add insult to injury. Imo - a Senior with amazing two years of experience should be able to get a feel how wide a field unix involves, accept there are things unix one does not know, argue there are things unix that are now beyond unix, get help rather than brooding silently, laugh away at a we-were-once-like-that-too comment. I meant, a comment from someone we-were-once-like-that-too. Im(extravagant)o - someone with good years' of experience (perhaps, interviewing for a job) should be able to tell boundaries of his/her knowledge by discussing things he/she does not know beyond things he/she knows. oops, did I mean with years of interviewing for the same job experience or, did I mean with years of working experience and if he/she had to interview for a job? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alexander Sent: Tue, March 14, 2006 11:19 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: windows XP : cygwin -X server not opening Dear Avinash, from your CV: Senior software engineer with two years of experience on various platforms like UNIX, .. Imo - a Senior with amazing two years of experience should be able to read the messages on his screen, look into a logfile and solve the problem within 5 minutes maybe while also taking a look into the documentation. Thanks for the funny post, it made me laugh a lot. Ask the people where you bought your master. They may also sell you the solution to this. Alex http://www.aiengine.org Avinash Sridhar wrote: On 3/14/06, Avinash Sridhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many thanks to all the kind souls who have contributed to Cygwin. Regards Avinash Sridhar _ 713-471-8605(c) http://nas.cl.uh.edu/sridhara -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Running Cygwin on multi-user Windows XP
google: cygwin xp non-administrator account result: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2005-02/msg9.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Legbandt Sent: Thu, January 19, 2006 2:40 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Running Cygwin on multi-user Windows XP Cygwin when installed on Windows XP multi user machines will only run under the account in which it in installed. In addition, the account must have administrative rights, which is totally unacceptable. What do I have to do to get it to run on non-administrative accounts that were not the account under which it was installed? /Tom -- Tom Legbandt NOAA-CREST Center The City College of New York Electrical Engineering Dept. 140th and Convent Ave. New York, NY 10031 (212) 650-8274 - (tel) (212) 650-5459 - (msg) (212) 650-5491 - (fax) -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Removal or anonymization of a posting
For the risk of being yelled at for being irrelevant, I'll exploit the opportunity this story will be archived for time immemorial. As the story goes ... Once upon a time, there was a rich trader who lived in a huge house who had a poor neighbour living in a tiny house just behind the rich trader's kitchen. For every of holy days or when the trader threw a banquet the rich scents and odour of the kitchen would permeate into the poor neighbour's living room cum kitchen cum pantry cum occasional guest bedroom. Despite all the rich food, the trader felt lethargic and frail and never had a good day. Once in a blue moon she had the chance to meet her poor neighbour. Actually, it was the converse - the poor neighbour might chance upon meeting the trader. For this particular blue moon, the trader was especially irritated and so when she saw the happy and healthy countenance of her poor neighbour she became extremely annoyed. What reason for thy fumbling and demeaning expressing of joy and unbounded appearance of health? What measure of food my servants might have smuggled thee and which case I would consider theft? Nay. Surely not. Said the poor neighbour. For it is thine own generosity from which did I benefit. Excellent. What then shalt thou consider as recompense for this benefit which thou hast unreasonably taken from me without my prior adjudging or deliberation? I have not any means to pay thee nor any meaning to pay for scents and odour that waft into my abode without my prior consideration or deliberation. Nay so, for if my pet cat or dog wafted into thine household without thy prior consideration or deliberation, shouldest thou not return them each in one piece and alive rather than consume them for thy personal culinary and nutritional benefit? So return me my scents and odours. She demanded. Nay too, as if it came to that situation, I would have none of any resources to recapture thy pets unless thou provided the man-, woman- or person-power to capture the pets for thyself and recompense me for the trespass of thy wafty entities as well as the trespass of those whom thou wouldest send to recapture thy privacy. Years passed with many friends and relatives as well as unsolicited strangers wafting into the poor neighbour's house to enjoy the rich waft of the rich trader's kichen. So it came to pass that the neighbours chanced upon another blue moon. Thou has yet to recapture my assets that had wafted into thine household. But I shall forgive and forget and hold you no more responsible for their recapture. But I understand not why thee and thy many friends exude such countenance of health and happiness. For I have had for many years no more feasts nor festivities from which thou nor thy equally poor friends could benefit. You forget we have memory. For the good scents and odours have been archived in our memory and whenever we think about them we become unboundlessly joyous and happy. I entreat thee to erase such memory from thy archive for it is my privacy that thou art accessing each time you recall those scents and odours. That is the least thou shouldest have done for me. What about the scents archived in the memories of my myriad of friends and relatives? Even if I could erase my memory off thy privacy but I retain no means nor such authority to erase thy supposed assets off my friends and relatives. On hearing that, the rich trader walked away, feeling more and more discouraged about the loss of her privacy that had leaked into her neighbourhood. Is this how y'all should treat me for the benefit I have given y'all? ~(Copyleft BlessedGeek.com 2006/01/05). == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rainer Luxus Sent: Wed, January 04, 2006 5:59 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Removal or anonymization of a posting Dear receiver, it's now for many years that I find a certain posting in the cygwin xfree archive associated with my name and (office) email address when I'm looking for my name with the GOOGLE search engine. I have accepted this for the elapsed time for the sake of other users that might have found help in the answer to my question. (But I was never happy with it and I did never agree to this practice at all.) Now more than 3 years later I can't see any benefit in this posting and so I want to ask you to remove or at least anonymize it (and change the file name!!!) I'm talking about the following posting: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-11/msg00202.html Internet, news groups and so on are a great thing but only in conjunction with a careful handling of personal data, privacy etc. I hope you understand my petition and spend those 10 minutes to erase my personal data from the archive. Please don't let me hang! Best regards Rainer ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum
RE: How do I make DOS scripts to start X applications?
U:\ SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 U:\ e:\cygwin-x\usr\X11R6\bin\xclock -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: pager and virtual desktops
At first, I was wondering if you meant using SNPP to switch desktops. (Why would anyone want to use telephony to manage a cygwin screen?) I guess that is not your intent. I am guessing you are not using multi-windows. Do you already run twm rather than the default window manager? I have twm create the number of desktops I need. Through prior help from people on this list - Alternatively, I could also run two displays on a cygwin server process or two single-display cygwin server processes. Then I use an Win/XP multi-desktop software, and place each cygwin display window on separate multi-desks. The links attached by cygwin list server at the end of every email would lead you to manuals to show how to run multiple display windows or multiple cygwin servers. Otherwise, someone on the list would be able write out a short routine to illustrate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luke Vanderfluit Sent: Tue, December 20, 2005 4:59 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: pager and virtual desktops Hi. My next question on cygwin is to do with pagers and virtual desktops. On my regular linux boxes, I run virtual desktops using a pager to switch between them. Is this possible under cygwin? Thanks. Kind regards. -- Luke -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: How to add a title to xterm
Someone posted a clue on how to make MS Windows Cmd window disappear. I lost that (rather I deleted lots of emails when my quota exceeded). If we chose to start cygwin thro a bash cmd window ... ~ How to make that annoying bash window disappear ~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of fergus Sent: Wed, December 07, 2005 1:55 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to add a title to xterm I do not use startx: for me, it sets up unnecessary or inconvenient defaults. 1. Start bash then 2. run XWin -nolisten local -multiwindow Enter 3. xterm -display localhost:0.0 -title Columbia Enter works fine for me ... Fergus -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Is Cygwin/X compatible with HP's mwm?
Did you start cygwin/x xdm and then attempted to run remote host's mwm on it? What about going thro xdmcp? I have always run cygwin/x using both its xdm and xwm on the same machine. I have never tried running cygwin/x xdm and then running remote Solaris or HPUX mwm on it. Is that possible? Could I also deploy cygwin/x multiwindow and then attempt to throw remote mwm on it? Is going thro the remote xdmcp the only way to use remote xwm? Presuming my terminology is correct:... xdm - x display mgr to set up the x display xwm - x win mgr runs on top of xdm, to manage the willy nilly remote windows, without which those windows will pile up on one corner of the local xdm. mwm - motif based xwm. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, December 01, 2005 9:25 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Is Cygwin/X compatible with HP's mwm? Is Cygwin/X compatible with the mwm (Motif Window Manager) that comes with HPUX 10.20? Or is Cygwin/X only supposed to work with Linux? I have an application that works fine with Redhat's X server, Exceed, and Reflections, but not Cygwin/X. I was hoping to use Cygwin/X instead of the commercial X servers. But Cygwin/X doesn't communicate with mwm. I've been trying for days but it's just not working. Application windows all appear normal in Cygwin/X but there is no interaction with the window manager. For example, I can't move windows on the screen. The last window created is the only one that gets focus. Clicking on the others does nothing. Window manager pull down menus don't display. In short, there is no interaction at all between Cygwin/X and the mwm window manager. Is anyone out there using Cygwin/X successfully in this environment? Does anyone know if Cygwin/X has been tested with HP's mwm? I also tried the twm window manager that comes with HPUX 10.20. Is doesn't work right either. The problems are similar but not exactly the same. In the case of twm an outline of the last window created is attached to the mouse pointer. Clicking on the desktop causes the window to be completed and appear normal. I am able to interact with the window manager after that. But what's going on with this weird behavior? ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: FIXED my freeze on startup problem
As opposed to freeze-on-startup, I experience a freeze-when-network-busy. More precisely, it is freeze-after-network-busy, because even after the network clog has cleared, cygwin/x remains frozen. I am on wireless, and at times the bandwidth to my laptop is reduced by traffic. I use a motif activity intensive programme called SAS. When bandwidth gets clogged, all cygwin/x windows comes to a standstill, xterms and non-SAS windows as well. When clog is cleared and bandwidth returns to 54Mbs, all of cygwin/x remains frozen. I have end cygwin/x, lose all my charts and code written to restart it. An irrelevant thought to nibble: I spell programme rather than program, not just because of my origin, but also when spelt as program, southerners like jimmy carter pronounce it as progrom which sounds discomforting. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Schmidgall Sent: Sun, November 20, 2005 12:57 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: FIXED my freeze on startup problem A few months ago I wrote asking for help with my freeze on startup problem. I just now figured out what the problem was. I did some more looking at the log files, and XWin was waiting for a hung sh process that was doing something with keyboard maps. I found a post that suggested adding a -kb to my XWin command line parameters, and that did the trick! I just wanted to let you all know another possible cause for the freezes on startup. -Andy -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: FIXED my freeze on startup problem
I was born and then schooled in a time and place where there was no distinction between the schemes of thought in tv and computer programmes. Yes, I am that old and ancient. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Mon, November 21, 2005 10:47 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: FIXED my freeze on startup problem On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 10:40:03AM -0500, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: An irrelevant thought to nibble: I spell programme rather than program, not just because of my origin, but also when spelt as program, southerners like jimmy carter pronounce it as progrom which sounds discomforting. In the UK the tendency is (or at least my tendency is) to use program for a computer program and programme for a radio or television programme. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: CygwinX
http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/cygwin-x-ug.html Chapter 4! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of hate me Sent: Thu, November 17, 2005 6:23 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: CygwinX Hi there, from the last two days I have been traying to do download X-cygwin/X and I have been unsucefully. opened the X terminal and it says: A fatal error has occurred and Cygwin/X will now exit. Please open /tmp/XWin.log for more information. Vendor: The cygwin/project Release: 6.8.2.0-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command-line: /cygdrive/cygwin/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-drup-error Please could you inform/help me to sort out this fatal error, please? _ MSN Messenger 7.5 is now out. Download it for FREE here. http://messenger.msn.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
CYGWIN/X locks up
I'm on wireless too. I've been wondering why cygwin/x has been locking up, requiring me to restart the x server. I am quite certain that there have been network admin activity getting into my laptop. After terminating cygwin/x when it locks up under such a situation, wmaker session would still be displayed on XP process list, along with rsh sessions I've had. The wmaker session cannot be killed, either by XP Task Mgr or MS Giant AntiSpy. I would have to reboot the laptop. No, I could not even reboot because XP could not kill wmaker. I had to press the power button. On restart of cygwin/x, a new set of wmaker is started, but is not effective as evidenced by all x application windows piling up at the top left corner of cygwin/x window. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jason cafarelli Sent: Tue, October 25, 2005 2:30 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: CYGWIN/X11 CRASHES ON BOOT UP - i am not running zone alarm or any other firewall o.O Hellos, I've noticed that if my wireless configuration is changed by a external program (aka a wireless profile utlility), The cygwin/X server locks up. I read something about the cygwin server not liking the ip stack changed? Any work arounds come to mind? I only use the x server locally *more details Basically i have a wireless tablet that is autoconfigured on boot up. I threw a shortcut to cygwin/usr/x11r6/bin/startxwin.bat into the windows startup folder. The first time you go to use the any of the cygwin/x functions the c/x stops responding. After closing the x server then reopening via startxwin batch file the x server runs perfectly. The wirless configuration is configured after cygwin is loaded. There are no firewalls, antivirus of any kind loaded (incuding the xp's firewall and security center). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: overlapping windows in cygwin
I'm quite sure Tweakui would cast its focus-follows-mouse settings on every app window running in XP. Ideally, we would want to have focus-follows-mouse only for cygwin. Running a window mgr like wmaker rather than multi-window would help accomplish that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matthew Kasun Sent: Mon, October 24, 2005 1:34 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: overlapping windows in cygwin Download tweakui, part of the Powertoys for XP, from Microsoft. http://www.microsoft .com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx -- Matt -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: starting X on an alternate monitor
Since monitor #2 is an extension display area with monitor #1, Win/xp treats the whole as a single display space. Consecutive invocation of xp apps frames would graduate in coordinates left to right top to bottom, unless the coords are fixated by the app. A point to prove - that to start cygwin/x on monitor #2, we would have to specify that coordinate to cygwin/x, but neither of us know of any argument startxwin would take to allow coordinate specification. Since I do not know of such an argument to startxwin (or its other associated methods of starting), I specify -scrollbars. Somehow, scrollbars option allows me to move cywin frame around the XP display area. Therefore, I move the cygwin frame to an area what we would term as monitor #2. Since my monitor #2 area is larger than my monitor #1, specifying scrollbars has the additional benefit of allowing cygwin to start larger than the display area of monitor #1. I know of no better way than this to provide for my want (and desire) to have cygwin frame sit on monitor #2: run XWin -screen 0 1900 1400 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars -clipboard -silent-dup-error Could someone explain how to make the @2 method work to avert my current kluge to display cygwin on monitor #2. Or, is what I'm doing the only way cygwin currently affords me? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Basic question X - ways to skin a ... mouse
I think I've got it wrong and Brian Dessent is right. The util is the intellimouse driver. Which is why I could not find it at Logitech. On the other hand, I advise you to keep your double-click assignment for cygwin as well, and get accustomed to dual-click emulating double-click. The reason being, when I sat on a sun-sparc or aix using their mouse, the native double-click action is effortless. However, connecting to those stations using cygwin/x or reflection/x or eXceed, I need to click extremely fast to effect a double-click. Of course, I could configure xp to widen the interval of double-click recognition. Doing that, you would realise that a second in cygwin/x (reflection eXceed as well) is but a thousand years on XP desktop. Most unix visual applications require double- clicking, and even Motif's own dtfile. X-Free people ought to look into the difference between XP mouse interval and remote unix interval. Is this an X-Free issue or a cygwin/x issue? I tend to think it's a cygwin issue. X-Free is normally used on Linux without having a user shift between MSWin and XWin. Is there a worster place in this country than Worcester, Mass. (besides Gary, Indiana)? Is there a more beautiful place than Bar Habor, Maine? One is heaven, the other h#ll. But having to vacillate between the two on a weekly basis is purgatory. Is there better loyalty to a football club than to ManchU, besides L'pool? One was pure elegance, the other pure brute. But having had to vacillate between the two had been pure torture. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Herbert Eppel Sent: Thu, September 29, 2005 12:12 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Basic question X - ways to skin a ... mouse Gotta go. G'nite. Where are you? I just got up! -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Basic question 2 - Copy from Windows and paste to cygwin or X
I am already doing that (-clipboard), among others: run XWin -screen 0 1750 1350 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars -clipboard -silent-dup-error -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Herbert Eppel Sent: Wed, September 28, 2005 1:16 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Basic question 2 - Copy from Windows and paste to cygwin or X Is there a way of pasting text from the Windows clipboard to cygwin or X, if you see what I mean? Thank you. Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Basic question 3 - system tray icon
Piggy-backing on this question, right clicking on icon is an item Show Cursor. What does that do, anyway? I have tried releasing the mouse on that and I don't see any difference to any cursors on the wmaker screen. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Herbert Eppel Sent: Wed, September 28, 2005 5:03 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Basic question 3 - system tray icon Can the cygwin X server be prevented from placing an icon in the Windows system tray? Thank you. Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Basic question 4 - Shutting down X
You may also choose Exit by right clicking X icon on the win/xp icon tray. http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/cygwin-x-ug.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Herbert Eppel Sent: Wed, September 28, 2005 9:58 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Basic question 4 - Shutting down X Is it OK to shut down the X environment by simply clicking on the x in the top right corner, or is there a 'more graceful'/better/preferred way of doing it? Thank you. Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: CYGWIN 1.5.12 :: CPU : 100% WITH CYGWIN ON WINDOWS 2000 SERVE R
In such a case, my boss would ask me: 1. Would running the script on Linux produce the same CPU hog? 2. What on earth does the script do, anyway? 3. Is it calling another application that's really hogging the CPU? 4. Select the IO and VM columns of task manager and what are their activity levels? 5. Is the antivirus constantly acting up on every move of the script? 6. Why am I running it on win2k rather than Linux? If Linux is distrusted due to management policy on support, management should hold equivalent views on cygwin. Not that cygwin should be distrusted, but that Linux should not be distrusted since I trusted cygwin. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thakar, Nilesh V (GE Healthcare) Sent: Wed, September 28, 2005 9:08 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Cc: Thakar, Nilesh V (GE Healthcare) Subject: CYGWIN 1.5.12 :: CPU : 100% WITH CYGWIN ON WINDOWS 2000 SERVER Hi * We are running a bash shell script in CYGWIN 1.5.12 environment on a Windows 2000 server system, and while the shell script being run, the CPU usage goes constantly to 100%. * This makes some of our realtime applications to abort (for example, a patient scan using a CT Scanner; and the total software/hardware to a abort condition.) Can you suggest/recommend any work around to overcome this problem? An early response is well appreciated, since our software saves a lot of lives while performing the patient scans at hospitals. Best Regards, Nilesh Thakar. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Basic question 3 - system tray icon
No. He is telling you how to shut down with a single click rather than my right clicking and selecting Exit. Which is answering your question 4. Also about your question 2, as someone else recommended, you should consider running either startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh. But doing that, whatever you wrote in ~/.xinitrc would no longer be effective because either of these startup files would not call .xinitrc . I prefer the bat file because I would need to first start cygwin bash in a win/xp cmd window to allow me to run the sh file, thereby leaving a win/xp cmd window around annoying you more than the X icon would. The bat file is not unix and you might be more familiar with it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Herbert Eppel Sent: Wed, September 28, 2005 12:08 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Basic question 3 - system tray icon On 28.09.2005 16:48 UK Time, Reid Thompson wrote: Herbert Eppel wrote: Can the cygwin X server be prevented from placing an icon in the Windows system tray? Thank you. highlight with left mouse button, paste with middlebutton/scrollwheel Highlight what? Are we talking about the same thing, or are you referring to my Basic question 2??? Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Basic question X - whatever
With the clipboard enabled, do you know how to highlight, copy paste between win/xp and cygwin? I think that is his intent. Microsoft(which you know): copy is by selecting then ctrl-c or menu-copy. paste is by ctrl-v or menu-paste. Motif cygwin: Selecting text would spontaneously (some people might prefer the term, automatically) copy into clipboard. Paste is by middle button click. e.g. copying from MS to Cyg: copy text from MS win, move cursor to cyg window and press/release middle button. Conversely from cyg to MS: select text at cyg win, move mouse to MS win and ctrl-v. Voila! However, if you don't have a middle mouse button, or you had mapped that button to do something else, you could use -emulate3buttons option which would require you to press both mouse buttons together to emulate the middle button. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Herbert Eppel Sent: Wed, September 28, 2005 12:43 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Basic question 3 - system tray icon On 28.09.2005 17:20 UK Time, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: No. He is telling you how to shut down with a single click rather than my right clicking and selecting Exit. Which is answering your question 4. Thanks, although I'm afraid I still fail to see Reid's single-click solution - but never mind, I think I am satisfied now that my own single-click solution (i.e. x in top right corner) is 'safe'. Also about your question 2, as someone else recommended, you should consider running either startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh. But doing that, whatever you wrote in ~/.xinitrc would no longer be effective because either of these startup files would not call .xinitrc . I prefer the bat file because I would need to first start cygwin bash in a win/xp cmd window to allow me to run the sh file, thereby leaving a win/xp cmd window around annoying you more than the X icon would. The bat file is not unix and you might be more familiar with it. Thanks, I'll try and get my head round that some time, but shouldn't it work with -clipboard in the startx command line? Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: running CygwinX with a limited user account
I am running cygwin/X under XP/Pro power user not administrator and I have no problems (with cygwin/X, i.e.). However, I am connoisseur of all but guru of none. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bart Bacon Sent: Tue, September 20, 2005 1:28 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: running CygwinX with a limited user account To the Gurus of CygwinX, I've noticed that in order to run CygwinX on separate accounts on the same machine, all users must have computer administrator privileges under the Windows XP Professional operating system. Is there any work around to allow users with limited privileges (such as my daughter) to access CygwinX? Cygwin does not seem to have this problem. Thanks for a great product and hopefully a response to this question. Bart Bacon \ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Can't display remote clients
When I first downloaded and installed cygwin my ulterior motive was - if there are free complex stuffs like FTP servers, J2EE servers, Java IDEs, etc, there must be a free piece of software for X/Win on Windows. My ulterior was, where I would prove to those charging an arm and some toes and yet would not do a proper job in what they sell. But to my dismay, cygwin as installed would not work. It kept giving me cygwin1.dll not found. Some two months later I made another attempt. Somehow, somewhere, somewhat, the installation went as smoothly as sailboat gliding down the calm Casco Bay on a warm summer day. My impression was my success was due to my visiting a till now yet unrecallable site which preset all the download choices so that it knew that my motive was to use X/win. Don't you hate it after a PC shop (which should remain nameless) had acquired a venerable mini- mainframe shop (which too should remain unnamed but whose founder once berated that the difference between Unix and his venerable system was the dismally small number of shelves it takes to house all of Unix manuals) - that when I tried to access some information on the acquiree's product, the links point me to the acquirer's site, which in turn pointed me back to the acquiree web site. Not directly but, going through the pretense of navigating a few links before lopping the ball back-and-forth onto each other's court. Fortunately, that PC shop was itself later acquired by a more coherently customer-focused company. This convoluted and obsfuscating email illustrate my frustration getting information and education about how to set up cygwin properly. That when setting up to use cygwin/X-Free, my proper attitude should be - it is cygwin that I am setting up and X-Free is a beneficial ported software. There might be, but it is not within my ineffable capability to find a unified coherent instructional site on cygwin applications. Despite the fact that not having cygwin/X, cygwin is nearly useless for most people, who seems to have similar motivation (or mismotivation) to mine. In my opinion, the orthogonality maintained between cygwin information and cygwin/X information is an unhelpful myth for participants like myself. But I have to bear in mind, that cygwin presents itself to me as a loosely confederated people like me, unlike the more tight-knit Tomcat, Eclipse or NetBeans projects with major interest sponsors behind them. On the other hand in cygwin, probably but not necessarily and not limited to people struggling between embattled personal lives and enthusiasm for communal software. Bearing in mind, therefore, it is therefore not free ware. It costs me to find and look and experiment. Therefore, I recommend that the confederation of cygwin users and porters collaborate to maintain a dependency chart page - which shows for example, if I wanted cygwin/X, what modules could be recommended selected when running setup.exe. Also, many emails seem to point to the confusion between an XDM and an XWM. That people installed cygwin/X but their xterms and xclock just piled up unmoveably at the top left corner of the X frame. This amount of confusion does point to a need for a more unified web site and cygwin organisation. If you (the venerable leaders of cygwin, i.e.) agree and need help, hineni. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Ormerod Sent: Thu, September 15, 2005 7:38 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Can't display remote clients Apologies if I'm pumping out too much information on my problems. Have gone through the User Guide in search of inspiration. At the end in the section on Displaying Remote Clients - Telnet, I thought I'd found a possibility - sadly no. However, the results might provide a cue as to why my install / system is failing to work. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: How to have more than one X display?
Thanks. I could not find that in XWin man pages, but XWin -help showed it. Though $DISPLAY is ineffectual to XWin, I needed to set it since wmaker (or any xdm) would need to know the display/screen to use. I am a happy clam now. I use wmaker because I don't like using multiwindow mode. I am not good in dealing with disorganised clutter. (the antithesis is rather an oxymoron - organised clutter). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Krahn Sent: Fri, September 02, 2005 12:16 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: How to have more than one X display? Joe Krahn wrote: Oh... The DISPLAY variable has no effect on XWin. Try the following: XWin :0.0 and XWin :1.0 I can run several of these. But, I noticed that MultiWindow mode is broken for anything but display :0. Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: How to have more than one X display?
It's the IDE mindset. I have two/more projects whose windows I prefer to be completely segregated. I could use wmaker multiple desktops to achieve that. However, I prefer a complete segregation. Especially when it involves two versions of the same project. Need to prevent myself from inadvertently moving a window onto another desktop. The files of the two versions would be of such similarity that I had edited one version with modification intended for another. Rootless would excercebate (how the h*** do you spell this!) that. My dream xdm: Tabs to separate multiple X screens. Like a multi-desktop but the tabs are managed by xdm not xwm. I know I am cluttering my X?M terminology. I mean, xwin=xdm, wmaker=xwm. I'm sorry I'm not aware what RANDR is and therefore am a little blurry-eyed about that. I'm not sure if Reflection has its configured but uninvoked screen as actually an active window parked far off into the edges of the galaxy. But my impression feels it is not so, as I had not found it in process/window listing utility I once ran. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Krahn ... In Reflection, is the 2nd screen 'live' but not always visible? But, why have two actual screens instead of one large virtual screen? If you don't want to lose your WIn32 desktop space, why not go rootless or MultiWIndow mode? If you want the X desktop space, it would probably be possible to use RANDR to allow dynamic resizing of one screen to fill one or both Win32 Displays. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: How to have more than one X display?
I had tried both SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0 SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.1 I was guessing to recall which way it could be to change the display number and had to decide which to copy and paste into the email. Either way gives me the same the same message and similar logs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Krahn Sent: Thu, September 01, 2005 7:57 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: How to have more than one X display? The problem here is that you are varying the screen number, not the display number. Multiple screens come from one server. Try using DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0 for the second one. It seems to work OK, at least if you don't try to use multi-window mode for both, even though several things hint that XWin code does not worry much about multiple servers. Joe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: How to have more than one X display?
I simply could not decide if the jabberwocky is called display or screen. As the tumtum it leans on called $DISPLAY, I wish to set to :0.0 and :0.1 as I had in Reflection/X. Right, now that I have to the terminology straightened (to roam cygwin wonderland), Reflection/X allows me to start a display server with just screen :0.0 with a premeditated intent of starting screen :0.1 later or not at all. Reflection would give me two XP windows, one for each independent :jabberwocky.screen. Question I should have asked in light of my enlightenment, How to have more than one screen on an X display server? Adding to that question, How to allow willy-nilly starting of another screen later rather than all at once? It's all the fault of Reflection allowing me the convenience that I wanted the same in Cygwin. This is what my startxwin1.bat have to do to get two screens. I have to repeat options for each screen. If I closed one screen both screens die. Unlike Reflection. Whom should I ask to modify XWin.exe to allow appending screens after the X server has started? === . run XWin -screen 0 1750 1300 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars -clipboard -silent-dup-error -screen 1 1750 1300 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars -clipboard -silent-dup-error SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 run wmaker run xterm -sb -e /usr/bin/bash -l SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.1 run wmaker run xterm -sb -e /usr/bin/bash -l -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Betts Sent: Thu, September 01, 2005 12:45 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: How to have more than one X display? On Thursday, September 01 at 2:09, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: I had tried both SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0 SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.1 I was guessing to recall which way it could be to change the display number and had to decide which to copy and paste into the email. Either way gives me the same the same message and similar logs. I think the problem is the use of -screen 1. I've never used the -screen option myself, so apologies if I'm way off the mark, but I seem to recall that it was introduced to allow a single X server to use more than one physical display. If this is what you are trying to achieve, you need to start a single X server with both -screen 0 and -screen 1. If you really do want two displays, try dropping the -screen option (or use -screen 0 for both), and use the :1.0 form for the second DISPLAY. HTH Phil -- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: problem
When I first installed Cygwin/X and tried, I ran into the same puzzlement, if not panic. All the xterms and xclock I started were heaped into the same corner, intransigently unmoveable. (The sun shall not strike thee, nor the moon by night and your feet will not be moved, as though). Then I recalled, hmm There is an X Display Server and then there is an X Display Manager. I think. I'm sure I have not confused the terminology. The default as cygwin was installed only started the X Display server. An X Display mgr would be prudent to have if I wanted to have a Motif look or even Win/95 look and to manage how the window or menus behave. I guess an XDM would also help with coordinate placement of apps like xclock and xterms. So I looked into the startxwin files and was as assured to find twm (which I guessed correctly is an X display mgr) commented out. I uncommented it and when XWin restarted my xterms and xclock were moveable. But I didn't like twm because the extremity of my X habits tends to pile up lots of windows and would have me a hard time searching for them without a desktop window locater. Which led me to install wmaker. Hey! Why couldn't I throw xterms from my sun box to local cygwin? My $DISPLAY on sunside was correct. With all the authentication failures and whatnots. Oops, I had forgotten to run xhost + on the local cygwin xterm. (I actually made the mistake of attempting xhost + on an XP cmd window prior to that.) xhost + or xhost + some-network-identifiable-hostname. The installation was rather simple that everyone around my periphery of physical influence should be able use cygwin to replace their branded X display s/w. Now I am beginning to wonder, what if I just started the X display server on local cygwin and then attempt to throw an X display mgr to it from my sun box? Or get a little more screwy, start x server on my laptop cygwin, throw wmaker from my win2k box to my laptop, login to sun box and throw xterms to my laptop. hmm looking on the sunnyside of things, but I can't wait for the snow to fall. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RICHARD D HILDNER Sent: Thu, September 01, 2005 4:55 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: problem I have installed cygwin and everything seems to run smoothly except I can't get any display to work. If I execute XWin then it opens up a grey window with an X at the top followed by Cygwin/X-0:0 and that's it. There's no menu options or anything. If i do XWin -query remote_host then the same thing comes up with Cygwin/X- remote_host. If I connect with ssh -Y remote_host it connects me but if i try to execute something that requires a display...such as xeyes...Then it says connect 127.0.0.1 port 6000: Connection refused/ Xconnection to localhost:12.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown) So i don't know what I'm doing wrong. Thanks a lot, -Richard Hildner -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
How to have more than one X display?
How to indecisively start more than one X display on my XP system? Currently I have a startxwin.bat: SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 .. run XWin -screen 0 1750 1350 -whateverelse run wmaker as well as startxwin1.bat: = SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.1 .. run XWin -screen 1 1750 1350 -whateverelse run wmaker Running startxwin1.bat after running startxwin.bat successfully, gives me an error logged into /tmp/Xwin.log which I attach herewith. startxwin1.bat is an exact replica of startxwin.bat except for those two lines. Both of which are direct modification from default startxwin.bat supplied at installation except I have wmaker instead of twm. Do I have to have startxwin.bat this way: SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 .. run XWin -screen 0 1750 1350 -screen 1 1750 1350 -whateverelse run wmaker That would force me to write startxwin.bat decisively if I want one, two or more X displays. I prefer Reflection's giving me slack to indecisively decide when to willy-nilly start an additional X display. XWin.log Description: Binary data -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Copy and Paste between my PC and CygwinX
I was using Reflection/X and/or Exceed and recently moved to Cygwin/X. Like in Motif, paste is normally achieved by the middle moust button. While copy is achieved by simple selecting(without deselecting) the text. Therefore, when I am on the cygwin window/s I use the Motif style for copy/paste. And, when I am on an XP window, I use MSWin style for copy/paste. With such way of negotiating my mouse clicks between both sets of windows I am able to copy/paste between the two universes. While Reflection and Exceed would recognise my middle mouse button, Cygwin would not. So I decided to modify my Xwin startup with -emulate3buttons option. Which required me to emulate middle button by pressing both L R mouse buttons together. Finally I found why my cygwin would not recognise the physical middle mouse button. I had set its XP driver to double-click, because sometime ago I was racing to complete MSWin Solitaire. Which my record time is 76 seconds. A neighbour(in the boondocks of Maine) managed 55 seconds.(How did he do that?). I think Reflection doesnot depend on my setting of the XP mouse driver and therefore not affected by my past Solitaire exploits. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lee, Jason Sent: Tue, August 30, 2005 2:43 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Copy and Paste between my PC and CygwinX I have recently start using CygwinX which is a window to my UNIX environment. The problem is that I have being searching for answer to do copy and paste between CygwinX environment and my PC environment. I can use Ctrl-Insert and Shift-Insert to do copy and paste in my CygwinX environment. How do I copy and paste from my PC to CygwinX xterm windows and from CygwinX xterm windows back to my PC. Thank in advance, -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Copy and Paste between my PC and CygwinX
Actually, cygwin does recognise my middle mouse button, but as double click rather than paste. That is handy because one has to be a superfast double-clicker on Motif emulators, because no matter how I modified Exceed,Reflection or cygwin/wmaker config I am unable to have mouse double clicking behave as fluently as if I am on a Sun workstation. -Original Message- ... While Reflection and Exceed would recognise my middle mouse button, Cygwin would not. So I decided to modify my Xwin startup with -emulate3buttons option. Which required me to emulate middle button by pressing both L R mouse buttons together. Finally I found why my cygwin would not recognise the physical middle mouse button. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: high CPU load
My cygwin/x server processes are at 0% when not used. They are near 0% even when xwin is receiving lots of screen update from the solaris client running SAS. My last cygwin update was two weeks ago. When was your last update and what were your updates? (so that I know what to avoid updating). I am using XP/Pro on Dell Latitude P4 centrino(whatever is that?), where my xwin/wmaker is displayed on an external 2nd monitor at 1792x1344. Are you running wmaker, KDE or native ms windows manager? I had similar problems of high cpu before but I found that my anti-virus s/w was trying to check everything netbeans and cygwin was doing. I forgot how I took care of that. I did not shut any anti-virus process down. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric S. Johansson Sent: Fri, August 26, 2005 9:14 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: high CPU load (note: I sent this out last night but it didn't seem to appear. Forgive me if this is a duplicate post) I'm not sure what has happened but relatively recently I've noticed that the X11 server is consuming inordinate amounts of CPU (70%+) even when it is not doing anything. I've upgraded to the latest cygwin but it didn't change anything. Running on Windows 2000 with all service packs plus security fixes. ideas? ---eric -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Cygwin for exporting CDROM
I think you should ask the cygwin apps people rather than this cywin/x group. There is something like nfs which runs off cygwin. I believe so. IMHrO (In my horrible observation) cygwin/x is just another app (like the nfs app I I believe exists) executing on cygwin. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of clresid Sent: Fri, August 26, 2005 2:14 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Cygwin for exporting CDROM Dear Sir/Mdm, Is there a way for me to export the CDROM of my PC and allow a remote mount from another unix system (such as Sun or SGI) to read the CDROM data? Thank you. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: MOUSE MOVE EVENT + CTRL + LEFT CLICK not recognized?
XWin should have an option -numlockIsModifier true/false. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Second monitor and screen resolution
XWin -multimonitor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Maarten Boekhold Sent: Fri, August 19, 2005 5:06 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Second monitor and screen resolution Hi all, I've got a laptop that supports an external monitor. The windows desktop can be extended to that monitor, so I effectively have 2 displays. I'm running my X-server on that second monitor using -screen 0 @2. Sofar so good. The second monitor can run in a different resolution than the laptop screen. Eg. my laptop LCD runs at 1024x768, but the external monitor runs at 1280x1024. I can't get the X-server to use the full 1280x1024 however. It seems like it detects the screen resolution of the 1st monitor, and refuses to use a higher resolution than that, despite the fact that the monitor/screen it's actually running on supports a higher resolution. Any way I can make the X-server use the full 1280x1024 resolution of the external monitor? Regards, Maarten -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Second monitor and screen resolution
Earlier mail sent inadvertently. Actually, this is what I did, XWin -screen 0 1500 1150 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars -clipboard -silent-dup-error The scrollbars option somehow allowed X server to use to the extents of the second monitor attached to my XP laptop. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Maarten Boekhold Sent: Fri, August 19, 2005 5:06 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Second monitor and screen resolution Hi all, I've got a laptop that supports an external monitor. The windows desktop can be extended to that monitor, so I effectively have 2 displays. I'm running my X-server on that second monitor using -screen 0 @2. Sofar so good. The second monitor can run in a different resolution than the laptop screen. Eg. my laptop LCD runs at 1024x768, but the external monitor runs at 1280x1024. I can't get the X-server to use the full 1280x1024 however. It seems like it detects the screen resolution of the 1st monitor, and refuses to use a higher resolution than that, despite the fact that the monitor/screen it's actually running on supports a higher resolution. Any way I can make the X-server use the full 1280x1024 resolution of the external monitor? Regards, Maarten -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Dealing with screen resolution changes?
Coincidentally, I had cygwin/X connecting with our solaris server and I was playing around with the resolution of second diplay attached to my XP laptop, just before I read this email. I was running statistical and graphical software on solaris thrown to my cygwin wmaker display. My cygwin/X session went blank and unresponsive. No X windows were shown but the usual latent images sticking to any hung up XP window. I had to kill the window using XP task manager. Whenever I use Reflection/X and I happened to play around with my the resolution of my laptop, despite Reflection/X warning reset X server ... or else ... , the X display would still continue to function without any noticeable defect or degradation without a reset. If circumstances had me believe in Santa, though I never will, this issue would be on my wish list to be sent to the North Pole. [Dear Santa, I would like to have cygwin/x frost-free whenever I play around with resolution of my laptop.] -Original Message- Is cygwin/X somehow able to handle screen resolution changes? Currently I start X with the startxwin.bat file that comes in the package. I end up changing screen resolution depending on whether I am connected to a monitor or looking at the laptop LCD. Everytime my xterms start behaving oddly (e.g., with a white band in the right side, etc.) So can I make it work smoothly in this scenario with some flags, etc. If not is this on the list of things to do. Thanks. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: MOUSE MOVE EVENT + CTRL + LEFT CLICK not recognized?
I had similar problems until I found out that my numlock was on. I run SAS on solaris and it had its own keyboard mapping start-up init. SAS maps every key with what I think might be the exhaustive modifier keys combination. For example, For [INSERT] SAS maps none:osfInsert - SASInsert(); Capslock:osfInsert - SASInsert(); When I used Reflection/X, the Numlock on/off had no effect. But when I use cygwin/X, I need an additional SAS keyboard defn: Numlock:osfInsert - SASInsert(); Which I decided not to define. I simply make sure the numlock is off. There are two points to note here: 1. Does your software do the same as SAS, and therefore afflicted by it? 2. Why does numlock have no effect when using Exceed and Reflection but Cygwin/X is affected by it. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Is this SPAM!?
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RE: Can I close the startx cygwin shell?
When I start using cygwin.bat, it merely starts up a bash in a simulated unix env in an XP cmd window. Then I have to run startxwin.sh, which starts my cygwin-x server on display 0.0. After which I rlogin to real unix machines, setenv DISPLAY mysillylaptop:0.0, to run graphical apps which throw Xwindows onto my cygwin-x server. If I ever dared close my unabashedly bash XP cmd window, all my X client windows would disappear. The question that trebor(robert?) asks is Can we close the XP cmd window, without killing the local X server process? because he probably started using cygwin.bat. But if he started cygwin-x by clicking directly on Drive:\cygwin-home\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat, he would get an error msg, cygwin1.dll not found. What he needs to do is, Right click My Computer to append Drive:/cygwin-home/bin/ to his system path. Now he would be able to click directly, Drive:\cygwin-home\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat , and be a rather happy camper (provided he knows how to set up his XP system path). -Original Message-Trebor Sreyb wrote: Is there some way to run startx without opening a cygwin shell window? Or, alternatively, to exit the shell window after the X window manager has successfully started? Otherwise, I find myself having to leave open a cygwin shell window that is used for nothing other than kicking off startx - that window just sits there. This is only a nuissance (adds an extra icon to the task bar), but if there's another way I'd like to know. I use cygwin on Win XP SP2. Doesn't your startxwin.bat file accomplish this? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Can I close the startx cygwin shell?
There is possibility that wmaker aborted. XWin.exe starts the X display mgr. If you're not using multiwindow on XP desktop then X window mgr process is twm or wmaker, etc. I get confused between the terms xdm and xwm, and sometimes I wonder if I am using the right (or left) terminology. Without icons and an xterm that has no titles and which cannot be moved sounds just like your xterm is thrown onto a virgin xdm without an xwm. Wmaker having set the xdm background before dying would give an impression wmaker is still on. What does ps -ef say? Is wmaker in the list? If not, the question would be why wmaker aborted. -Original Message- So, what happens with my startxwin.bat is that wmaker gets started, but the mouse is unusable, and the initial icons I expect to see never get displayed. Only an empty wmaker desktop. I can start an xterm, but its window has no title bar, resizing button, window borders, etc. I can use the keyboard. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/