Re: Headaches while trying to test my own custom d-i modules
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Myself, I find it easier to include udebs I am testing on the initrd, even if they don't normally go there. However, if they depend on a lot of libraries, this can result in some large initrds, which may be a problem depending on how you're booting (and can require you to increase the initrd size kernel parameter to boot properly). This is what I tried and several others suggested me to do the same. However, my first tests were with partitioner...which needs fdisk-udeb for working. fdisk-udeb is huge (because of localisation files) and I never succeeded at making the initrd small enough... So I turned to another solution--loop mount of of manty's images, copy it somewhere, add my custom built udebs there in pool/mail, add a config file at the root and then run apt-ftparchive on all this. FInally, build an ISO image with build/dest ans this directory, combined to be the root of the ISO image. Seems to work well, except that cdrom-checker currently says that this CD is not a Debian CD. I have to look at it for learning what is the used criterion and adapt my stuff to it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inconsistencies among pt_BR/el translations in d-i
CC to list with André's agreement. Quoting Andre Luis Lopes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): However, in http://people.debian.org/~barbier/d-i/l10n/pt_BR/pt_BR.po there's a inconistency which I don't know exactly what means. It's as bellow : #. #-#-#-#-# templates.pot (PACKAGE VERSION) #-#-#-#-# #. Type: string #. Description #. #-#-#-#-# templates.pot (PACKAGE VERSION) #-#-#-#-# #. Type: string #. Description #. #-#-#-#-# templates.pot (PACKAGE VERSION) #-#-#-#-# #. Type: string #. Description #. #-#-#-#-# templates.pot (PACKAGE VERSION) #-#-#-#-# #. Type: string #. Description #. #-#-#-#-# templates.pot (PACKAGE VERSION) #-#-#-#-# #. Type: select #. Description I have no idea what it all means and how to fix these ones. Do you know what these means ? This is not an inconsistent translation. This just marks that the corresponding string is found in several packages. However, there are not identified because you don't use the Project-Id field in your translations (I suggest you put the package name there) However, you still have: (inconsistencies between partman-basicfilesystems and partman-ext3--These packages future is not well defined currently. I think we will end up with only one partman-basicfilesystems package...partman-ext3 is, I guess a tentative example) #. Type: boolean #. Description #, fuzzy msgid Go back to the menu and correct errors? msgstr #-#-#-#-# pt_BR.po (partman-basicfilesystems_5) #-#-#-#-#\n Voltar ao menu e corrigir erros ?\n #-#-#-#-# pt_BR.po (partman-ext3_3) #-#-#-#-#\n Voltar ao menu e corrigir os erros ? #. Type: boolean #. Description #, fuzzy msgid If you do not go back to the partitioning menu and correct these errors, the partition will not be used at all. msgstr #-#-#-#-# pt_BR.po (partman-basicfilesystems_5) #-#-#-#-#\n Caso você não queira voltar ao menu de particionamento e corrigir esses erros, a patição não será usada.\n #-#-#-#-# pt_BR.po (partman-ext3_3) #-#-#-#-#\n Caso você não queira voltar ao menu de particionamento e corrigir esses erros, a partição não será usada. #. Type: error #. Description #, fuzzy msgid Failed to create a file system msgstr #-#-#-#-# pt_BR.po (partman-basicfilesystems_5) #-#-#-#-#\n Falha ao criar um sistema de arquivos\n #-#-#-#-# pt_BR.po (partman-ext3_3) #-#-#-#-#\n Falha ao cria um sistema de arquivos #. Type: boolean #. Description #, fuzzy msgid If you do not go back to the partitioning menu and assign a mount point from there, this partition will not be used at all msgstr #-#-#-#-# pt_BR.po (partman-basicfilesystems_5) #-#-#-#-#\n Caso você não queira voltar ao menu de particionamento e atribuir um ponto de montagem a partir de lá, esta patição não será usada.\n #-#-#-#-# pt_BR.po (partman-ext3_3) #-#-#-#-#\n Caso você não volte ao menu de particionamento e atribua um ponto de montagem a partir de lá, esta partição não será usada. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#227355: install report
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: 20040112 http://people.debian.org/~sjogren/d-i/images/daily/ uname -a: 2-4-22-1-386 Date: 20040112 Method: netinst with floppies Machine: IBM PC 300GL Processor: pentium Memory: 64Mo Root Device: /dev/hda Root Size/partition table: Feel free to paste the full partition table, with notes on which partitions are mounted where. Output of lspci: Base System Installation Checklist: Initial boot worked:[O] Configure network HW: [E] Config network: [ ] Detect CD: [ ] Load installer modules: [ ] Detect hard drives: [ ] Partition hard drives: [ ] Create file systems:[ ] Mount partitions: [ ] Install base system:[ ] Install boot loader:[ ] Reboot: [ ] [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Comments/Problems: 1. for french translators: when i install network modules, the message displayed is 'chargez les modules présents sur la disquette maintenant' but the floppy in the device is floppy-image.img, not net-drivers-image.img so it's better to say: 'chargez les modules présents sur une autre disquette' for example 2. list of network modules is in reverse order 3. i have to call 3 times 'detect network hardware' to have the panel to enable me to enter options for network modules the first time, it detects nothing (i have a dlink 220e and a cs89x0 card) the second time , it rery again, nothing is detected by i have a red screen error with 'modprobe -v ide-cd' and the third time, i can config ne module but 'Ethenet card not found' (but i use the same options in woody and it works!) 4. when i want to rechange the language (to see for example, the translation in en_US), just after, it call hardware detection or 'configure the network', it depends on the position in the installation process. 5.when i select 'load drivers from a floppy', it access directly on the device with no message like 'install the floppy and press enter' for example 6. unable to go back in 'configure the network panel' sylvain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sparc boot progress -- or at least a different error
Blars Blarson schrieb am Sonntag, 11. Januar 2004 um 23:59:49 -0800: If anyone else wants to try it, it's at http://www.blars.org/debian/blars/sparc-debian-installer.iso (about 10 megabytes). So far, it's only been tested on a sparcstation LX (sun4m). I just tried on a SUn E450: here is the result: {0} ok boot cdrom Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],4000/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:f File and args: SILO Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux Testing (Sarge) This is the Debian Install CD for Sparc. It is currently in alpha test, and should not be expected to work. WARNING: You should completely back up all of your hard disks before proceeding. The installation procedure can completely and irreversibly erase them! If you haven't made backups yet, remove the rescue CD from the drive and press L1-A to get back to the OpenBoot prompt. Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. [ ENTER - Boot install ] [ TAB - List alternative boot targets ] boot: linuxrescue boot: Loading initial ramdisk Fast Instruction Access MMU Miss {0} ok -- Jörg Friedrich Die Natur bestraft alles, an den Besten auch die kleinsten Fehler und gerade diese am härtesten. -- Jean Paul (eig. Johann Paul Friedrich Richter) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#227114: 20040108 fails on ia64
Hi Alex, Thanks for your report, comments below.. On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 02:30:26PM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote: Package: installation-reports Version: 20040108-ia64 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable Debian-installer-version: http://people.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/ia64/20040108/sarge-ia64-netinst.iso uname -a: 2.4.20-ia64 #1 Mon Jan 5 07:53:11 GMT 2004 ia64 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 13:50:04 -0700 Method: USB Keychain and IDE CDROM Machine: hp rx2600 Processor: 2x Itanium2 Memory: 6GB Root Device: SCSI sda Root Size/partition table: GPT 100MB fat16 (not mounted), ~30G ext3 (/), ~2G swap Output of lspci: Not available Base System Installation Checklist: Initial boot worked:[E] - failed to autoboot. manually running bootloader worked OK, I'll fix the directory layout after beta2. Configure network HW: [O] Config network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [E] - failed to load from USB mass storage, worked fine from CD I havn't tried to use usb at all on my box. Hopefully Dannf's new kernel packages (2.4.22 or 23) will provide that module, and I plan on adopting those after beta2. Will have to ensure those modules get included in the initrd. Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Create file systems:[O] Mount partitions: [O] Install base system:[O] Install boot loader:[E] - Never got there, couldn't get a kernel installed This is odd. I have the buisnesscard iso here, and it lists 8 kernels, not 4 as you got from the netinst iso. It lists images for itanium and mckinley, smp and up, for 2.4.19 and 2.4.20. I wonder if there is something missing from the netinst iso. The latest ISOs are now on gluck; I'm currently downloading http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/ia64/20040111/sarge-ia64-netinst.iso and will see what that does for me. In the meantime, if you are bored, you might try the latest buisnesscard ISO (from http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/ia64). Something else that may not be obvious; when you partition the target disk you need to use parted to create a FAT16 filesystem on the boot partition, and set the BOOT flag (set N boot on). Thanks, Richard Reboot: [ ] [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Comments/Problems: I was hoping to do an install off of a USB keychain. I'm using a 256MB keychain, partitioned as GPT with a 100MB fat16 partition, and the rest ext3. I copied the contents of the el-torito image into the fat16 partition and the rest of the CD into the ext3 partition. The system failed to autoboot when I selected USB for install (the directory and filename layouts are incorrect for autoboot). I then went to an EFI Shell and booted manually by typing elilo (I'm using a VGA console for install). Install went fine till it started looking for a CD. I got it to look for the install media elsewhere, but it got an error that the usb-storage module wasn't available. I gave up on the USB keychain and popped in a CD. In the processes of installing the base system, I got some unaligned access errors on the console. These were mainly from main-menu and anna. Really ought to fix these, use prctl to turn them off or maybe just turn down the dmesg level to make them not go to the console. I got the base system installed and selected the install kernel option. It presented a list of 4 available kernels. Selecting any of them immediately brought me back to the main menu w/ the install kernel option highlighted. I checked the /target drive, and no kernel was installed. I tried this several times before I gave up. I have some concerns about using devfs for the install. I'm told that after install you will not end up with a devfs system, but I couldn't get that far to verify. It's confusing to be presented with SCSI devices as host/bus/target/lun when you're really just expecting sda. I'm aware of all the naming problems with sdX, but using a deprecated interface doesn't seem like the way to work around it. My 2 cents. Thanks, Alex -- Alex Williamson HP Linux Open Source Lab -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
support for expert mode?
Is this feature ui.txt --- Note that since cdebconf allows questions to be prioritized, it is possible that the install process will skip over any or all of the questions. -- planned to be used for some expert/fast mode? -- Try Linux 2.6 from BitKeeper for PXA2x0 CPUs at http://www.mn-logistik.de/unsupported/linux-2.6/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
d-i powerpc status report.
Hello, I have grabed the latest d-i builds from Thorsten, and i used the netboot image to build an builtin initrd kernel for chrp. I have not yet tried the cdrom image, but latest experiences provded that it may well be too big, altough the cdrom image might have decreased in size lately. So, i managed to boot it with the devfs=mount option, and it worked just fine. I think the subarch detection is still not working right, or maybe kbd-choser doesn't know about it, since i was presented with choice of only USB mac keyboards, while i use a standrard ps2 keyboard. the come back button did not work, and i miss a choice for searching in the arch-indep list of keyboards there. I promptly rebooted the box at this state, since i cannot afford to loose my harddisk another time right now. I will test this again once i have finished with the kernel RTC clock work i am doing right now, and which is needed for a true unified kernel between pmac, chrp, chrp-rs6k and prep. What about the beta2 readiness issue ? We have not yet talked about that. I believe that it should be almost ok, but i would like a comment from the pmac peoples. A few notes though : - oldpmac will not be supported. This is post beta2 issue, but kernel-wise everything should be ready for it. We need a powerpc-small image, and the needed stuff to build the miboot floppy images, as well as a quik-installer udeb probably. - chrp, crhp-rs6k and prep should be ok, once the builtin initrd is built, and if subarch detection works ok. I am ok with letting the builtin initrd stuff wait for post-beta2, since it is possible to build them by hand, but the detection stuff should be fixed before beta2. - power3 and power4 : no kernels are built. I will probably soon enable builds of 32bit kernels for those processors, and upload them to experimental. 64bit kernels would need support from gcc to build, and we are not yet there. - G5 pmacs : my kernel doesn't support them yet. maybe a new kernel, based on benh's 2.6 tree would be a solution there. Definitively post beta2 material. Also, on the kernel issue, we currently use 2.4.22, which has been patched for the security issues. 2.4.20 and 2.4.21 have been removed from experimental. But, the installed kernels should really be based on 2.4.23 or above, since these include recent drm modules, and the dri/xfree86 packagers have decided to not propose standalone drm modules anymore. I would ideally skip 2.4.23 and package 2.4.24, but herbert has not yet packaged these. Anything else i have missed ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems building d-i on sparc: mklibs failed
Hi, I just tried to build d-i on sparc. System was a new installed woody upgraded to unstable. recent cvs checkout, all build-debs satisfied. btw. its a sun e450 using make TYPE=cdrom and this is the problem: # Library reduction. mkdir -p ./tmp/cdrom/tree/lib mklibs -v -d ./tmp/cdrom/tree/lib --root=./tmp/cdrom/tree `find ./tmp/cdrom -type f -perm +0111 -o -name '*.so'` I: Using ld-linux.so.2 as dynamic linker. Adding rpath ./tmp/cdrom/tree//usr/lib/cdebconf for ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/lib/cdebconf/frontend/newt.so Adding rpath ./tmp/cdrom/tree//usr/lib/cdebconf for ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure Adding rpath ./tmp/cdrom/tree//usr/lib/cdebconf for ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/lib/cdebconf/db/rfc822db.so Adding rpath ./tmp/cdrom/tree//usr/lib/cdebconf for ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/bin/debconf Adding rpath ./tmp/cdrom/tree//usr/lib/cdebconf for ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/bin/debconf-loadtemplate Adding rpath ./tmp/cdrom/tree//usr/lib/cdebconf for ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/bin/debconf-copydb Adding rpath ./tmp/cdrom/tree//usr/lib/cdebconf for ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/bin/debconf-dumpdb I: library reduction pass 1 Objects: libresolv-2.3.2.so anna bterm udpkg newt.so di-utils-shell.postinst libdebconf.so busybox libnss_dns-2.3.2.so cdrom-checker main-menu dpkg-reconfigure discover rfc822db.so nano libdiscover.so debconf debconf-loadtemplate debconf-copydb debconf-dumpdb kbd-chooser Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/lib/libresolv-2.3.2.so Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/bin/anna Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/bin/bterm Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/bin/udpkg Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/lib/cdebconf/frontend/newt.so Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/var/lib/dpkg/info/di-utils-shell.postinst Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/lib/cdebconf/libdebconf.so Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/bin/busybox Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/lib/libnss_dns-2.3.2.so Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/bin/cdrom-checker Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/bin/main-menu Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/sbin/discover Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/lib/cdebconf/db/rfc822db.so Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/bin/nano Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/lib/libdiscover.so Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/bin/debconf Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/bin/debconf-loadtemplate Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/bin/debconf-copydb Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/bin/debconf-dumpdb Object: ./tmp/cdrom/tree/usr/bin/kbd-chooser 449 symbols, 378 unresolved reducing libresolv.so.2 /lib//libresolv.so.2 62256L ./tmp/cdrom/tree/lib/libresolv.so.2-so 55763L ./tmp/cdrom/tree/lib/libresolv.so.2-so-stripped 48616L reducing libdiscover.so.1 Command failed with status 1 : gcc -nostdlib -nostartfiles -shared -Wl,-soname=libdiscover.so.1 -udisk_detect -ucdrom_detect -uideinterface_detect -uscsiinterface_detect -uvideo_detect -uethernet_detect -uusb_detect -uide_detect -upcmcia_detect -userial_detect -uscsi_detect -uusbinterface_detect -usoundcard_detect -upci_detect -uinit_lst -uisa_detect -uparallel_detect -ubridge_detect -o ./tmp/cdrom/tree/lib/libdiscover.so.1-so /usr/lib//libdiscover_pic.a -lgcc -L ./tmp/cdrom/tree/lib -L/lib/ -L/usr/lib/ -L/usr/X11R6/lib/ -L./tmp/cdrom/tree//usr/lib/cdebconf -L./tmp/cdrom/tree//usr/lib/cdebconf -L./tmp/cdrom/tree//usr/lib/cdebconf -L./tmp/cdrom/tree//usr/lib/cdebconf -L./tmp/cdrom/tree//usr/lib/cdebconf -L./tmp/cdrom/tree//usr/lib/cdebconf -L./tmp/cdrom/tree//usr/lib/cdebconf -lc -lm With output: /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib//libc.so when searching for -lc /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib//libc.a when searching for -lc /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib//libm.so when searching for -lm /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib//libm.a when searching for -lm /usr/bin/ld: warning: sparc architecture of input file `/usr/lib//libdiscover_pic.a(bridge.lo)' is incompatible with sparc:v9 output /usr/bin/ld: warning: sparc architecture of input file `/usr/lib//libdiscover_pic.a(cdrom.lo)' is incompatible with sparc:v9 output /usr/bin/ld: warning: sparc architecture of input file `/usr/lib//libdiscover_pic.a(disk.lo)' is incompatible with sparc:v9 output /usr/bin/ld: warning: sparc architecture of input file `/usr/lib//libdiscover_pic.a(ethernet.lo)' is incompatible with sparc:v9 output /usr/bin/ld: warning: sparc architecture of input file `/usr/lib//libdiscover_pic.a(ide.lo)' is incompatible with sparc:v9 output /usr/bin/ld: warning: sparc architecture of input file `/usr/lib//libdiscover_pic.a(isa.lo)' is incompatible with sparc:v9 output /usr/bin/ld: warning: sparc architecture of input file `/usr/lib//libdiscover_pic.a(lst.lo)' is incompatible with sparc:v9 output /usr/bin/ld: warning: sparc architecture of input file `/usr/lib//libdiscover_pic.a(parallel.lo)' is incompatible with sparc:v9 output /usr/bin/ld: warning: sparc architecture of input file `/usr/lib//libdiscover_pic.a(pci.lo)' is incompatible with sparc:v9 output /usr/bin/ld: warning: sparc architecture of input file
Re: support for expert mode?
Am Die, den 13.01.2004 schrieb Holger Schurig um 10:56: Is this feature ui.txt --- Note that since cdebconf allows questions to be prioritized, it is possible that the install process will skip over any or all of the questions. -- planned to be used for some expert/fast mode? It's not only planned to be used. We already use it heavily. Gaudenz -- Try Linux 2.6 from BitKeeper for PXA2x0 CPUs at http://www.mn-logistik.de/unsupported/linux-2.6/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: support for expert mode?
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 11:45:04AM +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Am Die, den 13.01.2004 schrieb Holger Schurig um 10:56: Is this feature ui.txt --- Note that since cdebconf allows questions to be prioritized, it is possible that the install process will skip over any or all of the questions. -- planned to be used for some expert/fast mode? It's not only planned to be used. We already use it heavily. Would be nice to provide a hint on how to use it too here, no ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Plurar and Singular
Denis Barbier wrote: Here is a patch, tested with French language. I forgot several points in my previous message: * $... cannot handle plural forms, so calls to gettext is the only option. * The shell string extractor has been introduced in gettext 0.13 * gettext 0.13 should hit testing in few days. This version is only needed to build .pot files, so these files could be shipped in the tarball if depending on a new version is harmful. * The whole sentence has been passed to ngettext, to make sure that no language is excluded. /bin/bash has not been replaced by /bin/sh, it should be done too. Please let me know if I can commit this patch or you prefer waiting for gettext 0.13 entering testing. I've got a modified version in my tree, I'll commit it as soon as I can scrape together some bandwidth. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Plurar and Singular
Nikolai Prokoschenko wrote: Well, it seems there are more places. I just found one while translating, it is in debian-installer/tools/isoscan/debian/po, which says: The quick scan for installer ISO images, which looks only in common places, searched ${NUM_DIRS} directories in ${NUM_FILESYSTEMS} file systems without finding an installer ISO image. Obviously, it is also a case for plural forms :(( I guess it's too late to try to implement this properly in d-i/debconf/whatever ? I don't know, but for now I have reworded the templates to avoid these number substitutions. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Arabic translation is complete (100 % done)
Hello Dennis: Well it took me 4 hours of CVS check out and check in and data massage and it took Ossama Khayat (main translator) close to 1 week in total to finish almost everything. Thanks for the heads up on the identical translation issue. I will get the guys to make sure we have some consistency in our translation. We will attend to that next week as I am waiting for the msgids to stabilize. Fair enough. if Alastair is really busy then i will try and recruite somebody to work on newt. Thanks alot. anmar Oueja --- www.arabeyes.org Denis Barbier wrote: On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 01:48:50PM -0800, Anmar Oueja wrote: I am happy to note that Arabic translation of d-i is 100 % complete. I will be checking in the code sometime today. Now that the translation is complete, it would be nice to be able to use it ;). Debian installer will require bidi and shaping patches. Bidi is a lib that can be plugged in. Not exactly sure how it works. but shaping is an actual code that must be written from scratch. We (http://www.arabeyes.org) have some samples of shaping code (patched Vim 6.2) that can be studied. it is a simple piece of code to right any way. Congratulations. Do you have an estimation of how many hours are needed to translate everything from scratch? This might be interesting to know, if some other translators want to add a new language. As several translators were involved on your side, some identical msgids have different translations. This is not a big deal, but is easy to fix, you could get http://people.debian.org/~barbier/d-i/l10n/ar/ar.po and check for #-#-#-#-#-#-# strings, they delimit such msgstrs. You can then choose the best alternative and fix other packages. Also Alastair seems very busy these days, maybe someone from arabeyes.org could try to hack newt, you are the ones who know what to do ;) Of course we will try to help if we can. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installation report - successful powermac installations
Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: (1) The title of the boot loader message was: Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux ${DEBIAN_VERSION}! Seems as the substition is not done correctly by debian-cd Drat, I see another bug in my old attempted fix for that. I have checked a fix into debian-cd cvs; manty will need to cvs up at least tools/boot/sarge/boot-powerpc in his tree. (2) Why does netcfg ask for a hostname at priority high? I thought that this is implemented in base-config now. If we keep the minimal questions in d-i policy this should go away again. I put that in at the last minute, because the stuff base-config does does not currently catch all the places a hostname might go. (3) On the netinst install partitioner crashed after I selected the filsystem for the root partition. On the second try it worked without problems. These images seem to be quite beta2 ready for powermacs. Good news. Which image set did you test, the ones with the unstable udebs, or the ones with the testing udebs? If you're not sure just tell me the url.. I need to know whether I should propigate some (which? all?) udebs into testing for powerpc, or whether the current set is ok. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug#227114: 20040108 fails on ia64
Richard Hirst wrote: The problem is that initrd-tools is not included on the netinst ISO. The kernel doesn't depend on it, so that is correct. Unfortunately on ia64 we have do_initrd=yes so kernel-installer wants to install initrd-tools. Not a problem with the businesscard ISO because it just pulls initrd-tools from the net. I belive that I have checked in a fix to debian-cd's tools/generate_di+k_list to fix this. Manty will need to cvs up that file in his build tree. d-i manages to install a kernel then, but elilo-installer causes (at least) one of my scsi disks to run down, and report 'Not Ready'. I have two disks, sda (8/0) and sdb (8/16). The errors are on sdb, which I'm not installing to. elilo runs parted /dev/discs/discN/disc print | sed when translating /dev/discs/ paths in to /dev/scsi/ paths. Earlier in the install (partitioning disks) I was able to use parted to print the partition table ok. I havn't seen this problem with the businesscard ISOs, but the most recent I tested so far was 20040108. The ia64 udebs on the netinst CD you used have not been updated since then, so I don't know about this. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#225861: no way to back out to main menu
On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:04 PM, Joey Hess wrote: Package: netcfg Severity: normal I'm at high priority, and dhcp fails. The dialog lets me retry dhcp, or go into static config, but does not offer a way to back out to the main menu. It should. Similarly, if I go on to the first page of static config, and use the back button there, it redoes the dhcp step. I think it should instead jump back to the retry question, or the main menu would be reasonable. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux dragon 2.4.23 #1 Wed Dec 17 13:50:20 EST 2003 i686 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US -- see shy jo I had to unplug the Ethernet patch cable to force DHCP failure so I could use a manual config. -- Barry C. Hawkins All Things Computed site: www.allthingscomputed.com weblog: www.yepthatsme.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#227343: discover-data: wrong module for CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
tags 227343 pending Thanks I applied your patch to the CVS. It will be fixed with the next upload (planned for just after the beta2 release). Gaudenz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Bug#225587 acknowledged by developer (Bug#225587: fixed in wireless-tools 26+27pre7-2)]
Now we need someone how makes a wireless-config-udeb or integrates wireless configuration into netcfg. Is there enough space on the netboot initrd that we can include this for wireless configuration in a shell. Gaudenz -Weitergeleitete Nachricht- From: Debian Bug Tracking System [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gaudenz Steinlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bug#225587 acknowledged by developer (Bug#225587: fixed in wireless-tools 26+27pre7-2) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:18:20 -0600 This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report #225587: please provide wireless-tools-udeb for debian-installer, which was filed against the wireless-tools package. It has been closed by one of the developers, namely Guus Sliepen [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Their explanation is attached below. If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate message then please contact the developer, by replying to this email. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) Received: (at 225587-close) by bugs.debian.org; 13 Jan 2004 15:17:31 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 13 09:17:30 2004 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from auric.debian.org [206.246.226.45] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1Afvso-0005DN-00; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 00:49:06 -0600 Received: from rdonald by auric.debian.org with local (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1Afvmz-0003kx-00; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 01:43:05 -0500 From: Guus Sliepen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Katie: lisa $Revision: 1.26 $ Subject: Bug#225587: fixed in wireless-tools 26+27pre7-2 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: Randall Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 01:43:05 -0500 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: wireless-tools Source-Version: 26+27pre7-2 We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of wireless-tools, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive: libiw-dev_26+27pre7-2_i386.deb to pool/main/w/wireless-tools/libiw-dev_26+27pre7-2_i386.deb libiw27_26+27pre7-2_i386.deb to pool/main/w/wireless-tools/libiw27_26+27pre7-2_i386.deb wireless-tools-udeb_26+27pre7-2_i386.udeb to pool/main/w/wireless-tools/wireless-tools-udeb_26+27pre7-2_i386.udeb wireless-tools_26+27pre7-2.diff.gz to pool/main/w/wireless-tools/wireless-tools_26+27pre7-2.diff.gz wireless-tools_26+27pre7-2.dsc to pool/main/w/wireless-tools/wireless-tools_26+27pre7-2.dsc wireless-tools_26+27pre7-2_i386.deb to pool/main/w/wireless-tools/wireless-tools_26+27pre7-2_i386.deb A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is attached. Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you have further comments please address them to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate. Debian distribution maintenance software pp. Guus Sliepen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (supplier of updated wireless-tools package) (This message was generated automatically at their request; if you believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:36:31 +0100 Source: wireless-tools Binary: wireless-tools wireless-tools-udeb libiw27 libiw-dev Architecture: source i386 Version: 26+27pre7-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Guus Sliepen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Guus Sliepen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libiw-dev - Wireless tools - development files libiw27- Wireless tools - library wireless-tools - Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions wireless-tools-udeb - Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions (udeb) (udeb) Closes: 225587 Changes: wireless-tools (26+27pre7-2) unstable; urgency=low . * Provide udeb package. Closes: #225587 Files: 547bf2f9fab5751bb7e503d0b9a4c79c 667 net extra wireless-tools_26+27pre7-2.dsc 9eac02dd23d0276a1c0efd42e08dc82f 4801 net extra wireless-tools_26+27pre7-2.diff.gz 25e2d1609758b843720bf82ed31340e7 22416 libs extra libiw27_26+27pre7-2_i386.deb 54d3a306064e8bb1d375190e7a08e119 35702 libdevel extra libiw-dev_26+27pre7-2_i386.deb 0703d0e973aec43e78615d3520f697e2 64448 net extra wireless-tools_26+27pre7-2_i386.deb 49d6840f39513962bc1dfdb7bb405e7a 22760 debian-installer extra wireless-tools-udeb_26+27pre7-2_i386.udeb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAAE4YAxLow12M2nsRAjYsAJ4tevz55kN8c8YxcPpPUzB8W0eLPwCdE2FT eZADDWuzmNJif0V7jMOxuSU= =FW5L -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#227498: failed install with 20040111 sarge netinst ISO on Tosh SatPro 4300 Laptop
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/20040111/sarge-i386-netinst.iso uname -a: Linux tacitus 2.4.23-1-386 #1 Sun Nov 30 16:49:14 EST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux Method: Grabbed the ISO mentioned above, burnt it to CD and booted off it. Machine: Toshiba SatPro 4300 Series Laptop Processor: P3 600Mhz Memory: 192 mb Root Device: 30 Gb IDE Hitachi Travelstar Root Size/partition table: Disk /dev/hda: 30.0 GB, 30005821440 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3648 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 3617 29053521 83 Linux /dev/hda2 3618 3648 249007+ 82 Linux swap Output of lspci: [Don't have this due to failed install; I'm planning to install woody shortly and can provide this info after that if it's needed/useful] Base System Installation Checklist: Initial boot worked:[E] Configure network HW: [E] Config network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Create file systems:[E] Mount partitions: [O] Install base system:[O] Install boot loader:[O] Reboot: [E] [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Comments/Problems: o ISOLINUX prompt hangs, then prints something like Failed to get sector size, assuming 0800 after ~1.5 minute and boots. o Chose 3c59x for my network card and got the Ethernet card not found hate-message... waited 10 seconds or so and my PCMCIA card came to life as expected. o Was then dropped into the Configure the network dialog box. Go back didn't work at this stage. o devfs. eww. o There was no dialog/progress bar while creating partitions which took quite some time. o The system ejected the CDROM and gave me the System Reboot dialog; after I pressed Continue, it dropped into the Configure debconf dialog, but I wasn't able to do anything with it as the system was already rebooting. * On reboot, the network didn't come up. I got the message below (by hand cut'n'paste): Starting PCMCIA services: modulesLinux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22 options: [pci] [cardbus] [pm] /lib/modules/2.4.23-1-386/pcmcia/i82365.o: /lib/modules/2.4.23-1-386/pcmcia/i82356.o: unresolved symnol isapnp_find_dev_R27cb2cad ds: no socket drivers loaded! /lib/modules/2.4.23-1-386/pcmcia/ds.o: init_module: Operation not permitted Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module paramters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg cardmgr. o I selected qwerty, British in the console tools config stage, and saw loading mac-usb-uk flash past? o P.S. woody installs fine on this laptop -- James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#226730: Problem with wireless pcmcia network card and keymap
Hi, The translation stuff seems to be fixed, or will be fixed soon. However, I didn't see much response related to my network and keymap problems. For the networking: the problem (or a part of the problem at least) seems to be that during boot (rcS), PCMCIA isn't started. /etc/network/interfaces however contains auto eth0 and tries to run the dhcp client on this interface, before it is possible. The way to do it (according to the FAQ in the pcmcia-cs package), is to remove the auto keyword for PCMCIA network interfaces. When PCMCIA starts in runlevel 2, it will run ifup eth0 and get the network running. I'm not sure how this fits in the installer boot process but I guess you will need to handle this distinction between regular and PCMCIA interfaces. Another thing I noticed: At the first boot, hardware detection is executed. This causes the pcmcia and orinoco_cs modules to be loaded. I then get the screen asking me which network module to use. When I select orinoco_cs there, I get a red screen telling me there's no network card. I guess this is because modprobe orinoco_cs fails because the module is already loaded. If I select none of the above, I don't get an error, but I'm dropped to the menu where you can choose which installation step to perform. Selecting the hilighted step makes the install continue fine. The same thing happens when I use my pcnet_cs card. The keymap problem: the error I am getting is a bug in console-tools in testing and unstable. See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=226742 Bastiaan -- Bastiaan Van Eeckhoudt bastiaan[at]vaneeckhoudt[dot]net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFS support in d-i: netinst CD image available for download
Hi Robert, Thanks for the feedback! I think it's clear by this point where our biggest bug lies (mkfs.xfs -f) -- definitely a major issue for anyone not installing on a pristine disk... On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 01:46:43PM +1100, Robert Moonen wrote: Well, here's my experiences with the new installer in a nutshell. The first boot went nice and smoothly, then while it was downloading packages, I was reading stuff about appropriate partitioning schemes and decided to change the partition structure on the install. So I ctrl-C'd out and started it again. Well the first hurdle came up when I tried to initialize my shiny new partition structure through the installer; it baulked and wouldn't initialize the first partition. Apparently even though I had removed all partitions and made the root partition smaller, the mkfs.xfs proggie wouldn't work with it because it hadn't been invoked with the -f option, so something to add the the install script there. ;-) Right, because if the new partition starts in the same place as the old partition, the XFS signature is still there. After low-levelling the drive(scsi), I tried again, this time when I was setting up the sources.list file, I had to press cancel to go back and fix something up(still in the script though), well now when it got to tasksel, that wouldn't work, even though I knew tasksel *did* work from the previous iteration. Another script bug i'd reckon. Hmm, probably not XFS related. Can you elaborate on that wouldn't work? -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: daily powerpc images
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 07:12:45AM +0100, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: Il lun, 2004-01-12 alle 23:34, Thorsten Sauter ha scritto: [...] | Should I stop creating my images for manty? I'm not aware that someone builds images for the cdrom's. I have talked with Joeyh (and maybe manty, can't remember :-)) because the images used for the cdrom's are very outdated. That's why I have tried to bring the daily builds back. The images built by manty (starting about 28th december) were using my hourly images. You may find them at http://people.debian.org/~eppesuig/debian-installer/daily-powerpc-build/ Actually I build the initrd for cdrom and netboot from HEAD and from beta2. Manty was using those files in order to create his CD images. I don't care about keeping this autobuilder, since I set it up only because there wasn't any available and I think that powerpc images should have been created. I jut read on a different thread that autobuilder for CD images is up and running again, so I would stop creating them. Er, are you talking about the autobuilder that creates http://gluck.debian.org/cdimages/testing/ ? The scripts used to build those images are still pulling in *your* published d-i images to create the powerpc CDs... :) AIUI, the Debian autobuilders won't ever be taking on the role of doing daily d-i builds; they'll only be building d-i when someone does an actual upload of debian-installer. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#221908: initrd image name
The generated lilo.conf also points to /initrd.img. However, at least after installing a new custom-built kernel-image, the links are named /initrd and /initrd.old, so lilo still complains on that. After having complained about the devfs issues, that is. I did not see that mentionned here, but since devfs is not mounted by default, lilo refuses to run. Not counting that the device names in lilo.conf are non-devfs ones... Obviously, mounting devfs and (temporarily) editing lilo.conf, just the time to reboot and edit lilo.conf back to normal (non-devfs), and things are OK again... Regards, -- Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alcove.com/ Technical support managerResponsable de l'assistance technique Senior Free-Software Consultant Consultant senior en Logiciels Libres Debian developer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Développeur Debian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Processed: Re: Bug#227343: discover-data: wrong module for CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
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debian-boot@lists.debian.org
Your message dated Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:49:54 +0100 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Bug#227252: installation-reports: installation sarge-i386-netinst.iso 2004-01-12 fails with libacl1 error??Installing with above iso image does fail. The installer calims that libacl1 is not retrievable.??The package does exist on CDROM. has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what I am talking about this indicates a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact me immediately.) Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 12 Jan 2004 19:17:11 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 12 13:17:10 2004 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from www12.your-server.de [213.133.104.12] by master.debian.org with smtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1AfzDI-0004EH-00; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 04:22:28 -0600 Received: (qmail 15201 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jan 2004 10:22:27 - Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by www12.your-server.de by uid 502 with qmail-scanner-1.15 (vexira: 6.23.0.2/6.23.0.28. Clear:. Processed in 0.418501 secs); 12 Jan 2004 10:22:27 - X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via www12.your-server.de X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.15 (Clear:. Processed in 0.418501 secs) Received: from pd9e17630.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO sol1) (217.225.118.48) by www12.your-server.de with SMTP; 12 Jan 2004 10:22:26 - Received: by sol1 (Postfix, from userid 500) id 37B9531C41; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:22:00 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Juergen Lueters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Bug Tracking System [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?installation-reports=3A_installation__sarge-i386-netinst?= =?iso-8859-1?q?=2Eiso_2004-01-12_fails_with_libacl1_error=0D=0AInstalling_wi?= =?iso-8859-1?q?th_above_iso_image_does_fail=2E_The_installer_calims_that_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?libacl1_is_not_retrievable=2E=0D=0AThe_package_does_exist_on_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?CDROM=2E_?= X-Mailer: reportbug 2.37 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:22:00 +0100 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-master.debian.org_2003_11_25-bugs.debian.org_2004_1_5 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on master.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_PACKAGE autolearn=no version=2.60-master.debian.org_2003_11_25-bugs.debian.org_2004_1_5 X-Spam-Level: Package: installation-reports Severity: normal -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux sol1 2.6.0 #1 Mon Dec 29 10:19:17 CET 2003 i686 Locale: LANG=de_DE, LC_CTYPE=de_DE --- From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 13 13:44:12 2004 Received: (at 227252-done) by bugs.debian.org; 13 Jan 2004 19:44:44 + Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from macwheel.xs4all.nl (gpm.stappers.nl) [213.84.119.166] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1AgLBL-0004Kp-00; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 03:49:55 -0600 Received: by gpm.stappers.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 548DC1800; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:49:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:49:54 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bug#227252: installation-reports: installation sarge-i386-netinst.iso 2004-01-12 fails with libacl1 error??Installing with above iso image does fail. The installer calims that libacl1 is not retrievable.??The package does exist on CDROM. Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 11:22:00AM +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geert Stappers) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_01_13 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on master.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_01_13 X-Spam-Level: On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 11:22:00AM +0100, Juergen Lueters wrote: Package: installation-reports Severity: normal -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux sol1 2.6.0 #1 Mon Dec 29 10:19:17 CET 2003 i686 Locale: LANG=de_DE, LC_CTYPE=de_DE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Closing the above slip of the pen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of
Bug#227355: install report
Gaudenz Steinlin a crit : Am Die, den 13.01.2004 schrieb sylvain ferriol um 00:07: 2. list of network modules is in reverse order I don't understand this sentence. What do you mean and which order would be the right one? Which list of network modules do you refer to? the list is displayed when it tried to detect hardware and did not find, so it display a list to enable user to select manually a module. the display is like this: d c b a initial cursor position instead of a initial cursor position b c d 3. i have to call 3 times 'detect network hardware' to have the panel to enable me to enter options for network modules the first time, it detects nothing (i have a dlink 220e and a cs89x0 card) the second time , it rery again, nothing is detected by i have a red screen error with 'modprobe -v ide-cd' and the third time, i can config ne module but 'Ethenet card not found' (but i use the same options in woody and it works!) This is the effect of the automatic lowering of the debconf priority on failure. The modprobe -v ide-cd error can be ignored. Please try modprobeing the correct module in a shell on the second console. but why there is the second step? At the first time, if nothing is detected , the next step is to display the options module panel. So this is done in two steps not in three. Are these PCI cards? If yes and they are not detected correctly please provide the output of lspci -v and lspci -n along with the relevant kernel module so we can add them to the discover hardware list. no i have a isa card (ne module) and a isapnp (cs89x0 module) on woody, i can configure isapnp internal chip with isapnpdump and isapnp commands but i don't know how to configure an isapnp card with d-i, i will search later for instance, i try to configure the isa dlink card) sylvain Gaudenz smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
NEWT Support for UTF-8 and Fribidi
Hello All: After many tries to get fribidi integrated into d-i, we gave up and decided to do it our selves. Here is what I need to know first before we hack newt or cdebconf/newt.c : 1. is Newt UTF-friendly ? and if it is who is the code maintainer ? and is there a mailing list for it. I could not find any 2. is libtextwrap UTF-8 friendly ? 3. Should we have newt lib or should we hack cdebconf/newt.c file ? Most likely we will need to hack newt lib. then were should we start. 4. is there s CVS we need to check changes in and who should we talk to to give them the patches. We are willing to put the work in but require some direction so we can get the darn things done ASAP. Your help is greately appreciated. Anmar -- Arabic UNIX Project www.arabeyes.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Plurar and Singular
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 12:10:38AM +0100, Nikolai Prokoschenko wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 10:06:56AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: So does this mean we can use ngettext-style translations from now on? Only for the one thing in base-config that actually uses ngettext.. Well, it seems there are more places. I just found one while translating, it is in debian-installer/tools/isoscan/debian/po, which says: The quick scan for installer ISO images, which looks only in common places, searched ${NUM_DIRS} directories in ${NUM_FILESYSTEMS} file systems without finding an installer ISO image. Obviously, it is also a case for plural forms :(( I guess it's too late to try to implement this properly in d-i/debconf/whatever ? Oh, dear... this hasn't even had a proper implementation in gettext yet, that I know of. :( Having multiple numeric variables in a single msgid causes an exponential explosion of the translation possibilities, and not all languages will let you decompose the msgid for separate translation, either. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#227498: failed install with 20040111 sarge netinst ISO on Tosh SatPro 4300 Laptop
* James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-12 18:49]: o Chose 3c59x for my network card and got the Ethernet card not found hate-message... waited 10 seconds or so and my PCMCIA card came to life as expected. I just did an installation on a laptop I borrowed and I see the same. I select 3c59x and immediately get the error. I don't know about the 10 seconds - I switched to F2 and looked at /proc/net/devices and saw eth0 immediately after loading the module (no wait at all). Starting PCMCIA services: modulesLinux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22 options: [pci] [cardbus] [pm] /lib/modules/2.4.23-1-386/pcmcia/i82365.o: /lib/modules/2.4.23-1-386/pcmcia/i82356.o: unresolved symnol isapnp_find_dev_R27cb2cad I get the same. -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#227081: marked as done (cp does not truncate existing destinations)
Your message dated Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:17:25 -0500 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Bug#227081: fixed in busybox-cvs 20040101-4 has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what I am talking about this indicates a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact me immediately.) Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 11 Jan 2004 00:47:14 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jan 10 18:47:13 2004 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from zoot.lafn.org [206.117.18.6] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1Af94n-0008WU-00; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 20:42:23 -0600 Received: from catalunya (host-66-81-179-198.rev.o1.com [66.81.179.198]) by zoot.lafn.org (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i0A2gAXh037943 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:42:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from kraai by catalunya with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Af86r-0006tT-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 17:40:17 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:40:16 -0800 From: Matt Kraai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cp does not truncate existing destinations Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Matt Kraai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-master.debian.org_2003_11_25-bugs.debian.org_2004_1_5 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on master.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_PACKAGE autolearn=no version=2.60-master.debian.org_2003_11_25-bugs.debian.org_2004_1_5 X-Spam-Level: --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Package: busybox-cvs Version: 20040101-2 Severity: grave Tags: patch cp does not truncate existing destinations. That is, after running echo foo foo echo fubar fubar cp foo fubar the contents of fubar are foo r instead of foo This breaks debian-installer. The attached patch fixes it. -- Matt Kraai [EMAIL PROTECTED] --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=patch diff -ru busybox-cvs-20040101-old/libbb/copy_file.c busybox-cvs-20040101/libbb/copy_file.c --- busybox-cvs-20040101-old/libbb/copy_file.c 2004-01-09 17:32:08.0 -0800 +++ busybox-cvs-20040101/libbb/copy_file.c 2004-01-09 17:39:09.0 -0800 @@ -153,7 +153,7 @@ } } - dst_fd = open(dest, O_WRONLY); + dst_fd = open(dest, O_WRONLY|O_TRUNC); if (dst_fd == -1) { if (!(flags FILEUTILS_FORCE)) { bb_perror_msg(unable to open `%s', dest); --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ-- --- Received: (at 227081-close) by bugs.debian.org; 13 Jan 2004 20:11:00 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 13 14:11:00 2004 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from auric.debian.org [206.246.226.45] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1Ag05r-0007bd-00; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 05:18:51 -0600 Received: from katie by auric.debian.org with local (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1Ag04T-0005OK-00; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:17:25 -0500 From: Glenn McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Katie: $Revision: 1.43 $ Subject: Bug#227081: fixed in busybox-cvs 20040101-4 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: Archive Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:17:25 -0500 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_01_13 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on master.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_01_13 X-Spam-Level: Source: busybox-cvs Source-Version: 20040101-4 We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of busybox-cvs, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive: busybox-cvs-floppy-udeb_20040101-4_i386.udeb to pool/main/b/busybox-cvs/busybox-cvs-floppy-udeb_20040101-4_i386.udeb busybox-cvs-static_20040101-4_i386.deb to pool/main/b/busybox-cvs/busybox-cvs-static_20040101-4_i386.deb busybox-cvs-udeb_20040101-4_i386.udeb to pool/main/b/busybox-cvs/busybox-cvs-udeb_20040101-4_i386.udeb busybox-cvs_20040101-4.diff.gz to
Bug#227600: hostname asked twice, /target unmounted too early, default real name
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: daily from 2004-01-09 http://gluck.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/i386/20040109/sarge-i386-netinst.iso uname -a: 2.4.23-1-386 Method: booted off daily CD image Machine: Random Laptop Processor: Celeron 366 Memory: 160 MB Root Device: IDE Base System Installation Checklist: Initial boot worked:[O] Configure network HW: [E] Config network: [O] some problems Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Create file systems:[O] Mount partitions: [O] Install base system:[O] Install boot loader:[O] some problems Reboot: [O] some problems [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Comments/Problems: I have the same problems with my PCMCIA network card as James Troup in #227498: I load the 3c59x module and even though it is loaded fine (and /proc/net/devices immediately shows that eth0 is there) I get a Ethernet card not found error. Also, as in #227498, it doesn't work after reboot (unresolved symbol error in i82356.o). It asks me for my hostname twice. After loading the ethernet module, I enter the hostname. Then it tries to configure DHCP, fails, and I configure a static address - IP, netmask, gateway, DNS... and hostname again (showing the one I chose before). I installed the base system, LILO and then I'm at the Finish the installation and reboot screen. I realize I'd like to have GRUB instead, and press no (or go back or whatever it was) here. GRUB fails to install because the CD-ROM and /target have been unmounted already! I think the CD should only be ejected and /target unmounted if people actually select Reboot at the Finish the installation and reboot screen and not before. After getting the Installing GRUB in /target failed. message, I get into the main menu. However, the status bar from Installing GRUB boot loader is still in the background. Quite ugly. Pressing reboot in the Finish the installation and reboot screen, it tries to refresh the screen before rebooting, but doesn't actually refresh the whole screen (most of it is black, but the Go back and Reboot is still there). This laptop might be a bit slow, but not that terribly. After reboot: in the past, base-config would ask me if I wanted to create an user account. It no longer does this, which is fine with me, but it also does not ask for the real name anymore and creates an account with Debian user. We really shouldn't do that. I noticed that during base-config was running, the debconf priority was set to high and later it was medium. (Is it even base-config that does this? I cannot find the user creation code in there.) I tried aptitude for the first time. I only had a CD with main on it, and when I pressed on a section in aptitude it wouldn't actually show me a listing of packages straight away, but showed main first. This makes it really quite tiresome to use. Since surely 99% of users will only have main, aptitude should cope with this and not show main if there is only main to choose from. I also tried expert mode. Way too many questions are shown here. I thought I might use expert by default, but this is _really_ painful. During hardware detection, it asks me for additional parameters for _every module_! This is surely a bit too much, eve n for expert mode. Also, even though there is only one kernel package, it showed me which one to install and I had to press ok. You can argue about the latter, but the former is clearly insane. -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: daily powerpc images
Il mar, 2004-01-13 alle 19:29, Steve Langasek ha scritto: On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 07:12:45AM +0100, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: [...] I jut read on a different thread that autobuilder for CD images is up and running again, so I would stop creating them. Er, are you talking about the autobuilder that creates http://gluck.debian.org/cdimages/testing/ ? The scripts used to build those images are still pulling in *your* published d-i images to create the powerpc CDs... :) Good to know. In this case I will not stop building the images. Thanks, Giuseppe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#221908: initrd image name
Am Die, den 13.01.2004 schrieb Yann Dirson um 17:52: The generated lilo.conf also points to /initrd.img. However, at least after installing a new custom-built kernel-image, the links are named /initrd and /initrd.old, so lilo still complains on that. After having complained about the devfs issues, that is. I did not see that mentionned here, but since devfs is not mounted by default, lilo refuses to run. Not counting that the device names in lilo.conf are non-devfs ones... Which version of lilo do you use? At least the lilo version in woody works for me without problems on kernels that have devfs support, not mount it. AFAIK all Debian i386 kernel packages in woody have devfs enabled. Gaudenz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installation report - successful powermac installations
Joey Hess wrote: Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: The ones in sid_d-i on gluck. I believe they are built with unstables udebs. Do you also need a test report for the sarge builds? Nah. If the unstable powerpc udebs work, I will try to get them propigated to sarge for beta 2. Done, they should be in tomorrow's CD build. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: d-i manual: content status report
Miroslav Kure wrote: I'd like to wake up developers and convince them to start writing missing bits of documentation. This is hard to do when you cannot build the docs and see how your change looks, so I was very happy to see your post to debian-doc about the stuff you have come up with to build the manual. Thanks to Chris Tillman's hard work we now have solid base for sarge manual written in DocBook XML (debian-installer/doc/man/en/ directory). I guess about 30% is still missing and we need some actualization. *If* Joey claims beta2 will turn into final in e.g. 3 weeks and Aj sets up another aggressive release date This seems fairly unlikely, but I cannot speak for aj. on stable, desire), where will be manual then? And how much time will be left for translators to catch up? If my memory serves well, official documentation for cds and www is built only once (just before the new stable is released). I don't see any real reason to do it that way, I would rather build the manual at least as freqently as the boot media and always have as current a version as possible on the cds and linked to from d-i's website. It is clear, that rewriting parts of documentation again and again just to reflect the current state of the installer is quite unproductive. I don't propose this. What I propose, is to write _now_ about stable parts of d-i which _won't change_ (or will change in very subtle ways) in the future. [e.g. With clear conscience I do recommend translators to begin with translating of the welcome chapter right now, because I'm convinced everything important is in and won't change]. I'm fairly sure that the following will not change significantly: - overall basic design, means of booting it and stuff like that - keyboard selection - network setup - udeb selection and retreival - base installation - ancillary stuff like running a shell, checking a cd, where the logs are, etc - base-config The following have a good chance of significant changes: - partitioning and formatting - language / country selection The following will probably change in small ways that should be easy to keep docs up-to-date for: - names of boot images - installer boot parameters (ie, we might get an xfs or 2.6 boot method) -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: d-i manual: xml status report
Miroslav Kure wrote: I did some proof of concept build system, which I use to verify my work on document xml structure. You can download it from http://www.debian.cz/~kurem/build.tar.gz. It consists of updated *.ent files according to point 2., file build.sh, which calls script buildone.sh for each language and architecture to build. (Here can go some management code like moving just-built doc to some safer location...). Buildone.sh sets up profiling and calls the right tools (change various variables inside to suit your needs). There are also three style-*.xsl files, which can be used to customize output. Just grab current debian-installer/doc/manual/en, drop it into the unpacked directory and run e.g. ./buildone.sh powerpc en. Used toolchain consists of xsltproc (.html and .fo) and fop (.pdf). I'm not a DD, so I'd like to hear your oppinion about this. I do understand we will need some DD to write nice build system, which will be flexible and much more dynamic, so don't bash my coding style, but the overal idea. I dunno, at the moment, you're the only volenteer, and you have something that seems to work. Maybe there will be something better later, but I would not mind having it in cvs alongside the manual so we can build it and make sure our corrections are valid xml. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#152152: FW:STOCK MARKET ALERT: QENC 2003 Third Quarter Net Income Rose 76.8%
OTC FIRST ALERT - New Public Company of the Month Symbol: QENC Market: PK Sector: Queench, Inc. BREAKING NEWS: Jan 8, 2004 -- Queench, Inc.(OTC: QENC)is now a full-time supplier of bottled water to the military. JERICHO, NY - Queench, Inc.(OTC: QENC) today announced that it has completed inspection and approval of its water bottling plants by the U.S. Army Veterinary Command (VETCOM). BREAKING NEWS: Nov. 13, 2003 -- Queench, Inc.(OTC: QENC) 2003 Third Quarter Net Income Rose 76.8%. The Third Quarter Net Income ending 9/30/03 increased 76.8% from the Q2, and a 987% increase year-to-year. Net income for the 9 months ending 9/30/03 resulted in a 1274% year-to-year increase. Jim Furey of Lehman Brothers says, You want to own small stocks versus large stocks when economic growth is accelerating, which is exactly the period we're in now. QENC is a small company perfectly poised to harness the $7.6 billion bottle water segment with a high quality premium brand priced competitively. The bottled water segment is the fastest growing of the beverage market. Of the $100 billion beverage industry, bottled water is nearly $7.6 billion annually, and forecasted to grow over 50% over the next 5 years. QENC has the best of both worlds, where unlike Aquafina and Dasani, QENC is high-end natural spring water, and unlike Evian, QENC is competitively priced. QENC's target consumer is health and beauty conscious including Gen Y, Gen X, and Baby Boomers who live a metropolitan lifestyle. QENC offers two fantastic product lines: Queench Natural Spring Water and the Queench Flavored Water Beverages, which are vitamin-enhanced and come in five cool new flavors: Coconut, O' Ginger, Red Raspberry, Pineapple and LeMon. DISTRIBUTION AND MARKETING QENC bottled water is nationally distributed through SYSCO FOODS. SYSCO Foods is the largest food distributor operating 145 locations and has sales and service relationships with 420,000 customers including restaurants, healthcare and educational facilities, lodging establishments, and more. This relationship provides key access to new markets with low capital requirements. Naomi Campbell's NC CONNECT integrated marketing agency, has signed to help QENC reach national and global consumers by providing marketing and advertising that will position QENC as a major lifestyle brand in the bottled water market. 01/08/04: QENC completed inspection and approval of its plants by the US Army Veterinary Command (VETCOM). QENC's been supplying the military contract in the South and Florida and the Army has been increasing orders on a monthly basis, which will result in higher Q1 2004 revenue. 12/03/03: QENC's strategically placing new eye-catching vending machines in locations on college campuses, retail, entertainment and sports venues and convenience stores. 500 vending machines installed in initial rollout in 2003 with approx. 2,500 vending machines to be installed in a 3-year period. The beverage-vending channel is typically highly profitable. FINAL CONSIDERATIONS 12/03/03: QENC is currently shipping over 54,000 cases of bottled water quarterly, with a year-to-date quarterly revenue growth rate of 19.7% QENC's NET INCOME for the Q3 ending 9/30/03 increased 76.8% from the Q2, and a 987% increase year-to-year. Net income for the 9 months ending 9/30/03 resulted in a 1274% year-to-year increase. QENC's SALES for the Q2 of 2002 increased 77% to $848,269 year-to-year, from $478,052, as a result of rolling out new product lines and implementing a channel development strategy. QENC's high quality premium water is priced very competitive, they have an excellent distribution channel with SYSCO and strategically placed vending machines, and a marketing campaign designed to focus on their target market. For a young company QENC has made substantial accomplishments and is poised to harness their segment of the $7.6 billion bottle water industry. To Receive First Notices on Companies like this ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The information herein is for information purposes only and should not be construed as an offer or solicitation of an offer to buy or to sell securities. This assembled information is based on information supplied by the company, press releases, SEC filings, or from other sources believed to be reliable, but no representation, expressed or implied, is made as to its accuracy, completeness or correctness. The data contained herein is subject to change without notice. Small-cap companies, micro-cap companies, penny stocks and/or thinly traded securities are inherently risky and volatile; therefore the risk of losing some or all should be calculated. Please always do your own due diligence and consult a financial advisor. OTCFirstAlert accepts no liability for any losses arising from an investor's reliance on or use of this report. Affiliates of OTCFirstAlert have been hired by a third party and are to receive eight hundred thirty three thousand three hundred
Processed: reassign 224528 to base-config
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New aboot-installer package for alpha, translations needed
Just as an FYI for translators, the aboot-installer package (Alpha bootloader) has just undergone a major rewrite so that it can actually be useful for installing the bootloader. This means there are several new templates to be translated, and more to come. Since some of the templates have been cloned off of grub-installer with just s/GRUB/aboot/ for the English, I've tried to provide fuzzied suggested translations for these strings based on the GRUB originals. For most languages these still need to be reviewed by a translator, and there are other untranslated strings as well, but hopefully this will give people a starting point. I have a little more testing to do here and may refine the scripts a little, but otherwise I think what I've committed to CVS qualifies as beta quality; and this is the last piece needed for this arch to be installable, so I'd like to upload soon. Thanks, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer signature.asc Description: Digital signature