Re: Asking for documentation help (Re: IPSec questions...)

2002-01-15 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña

On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 07:52:59AM -0700, Stefan Srdic wrote:
 
 I don't have any pratical experience with FreeSWAN at all, however, I have 
 statically compiled BIND 9 and placed it in a chroot jail on Debian. I 
 wonder if it would hard to packge a chroot'ed setup of BIND9 once it 
 completely configured?
 

As already said, documentation is a *Very* important part of a
distribution. IMHO the Securing Debian HOWTO (might change it to Manual
sometime in the future) does tackle an important issue.

I would be very grateful if you reviewed and improved the
(incomplete) information I wrote regarding Bind security in Debian (IMHO
it's better placed here than in a separate HOWTO).
Please read:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch-sec-services.en.html#s-sec-bind

SGML sources are available through CVS (check
http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp), patches for the CVS sources are
prefered but I will also accept any other suggestions.

Regards

Javi


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Re: Asking for documentation help (Re: IPSec questions...)

2002-01-15 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña

That would be great. I will accept patches anytime. Please don't
forget about writting it! (I will keep this mail, just as a reminder :)

Javi

On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 10:46:48AM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
 
 I'd happily volunteer to write the whole chapter, but I don't forsee
 having enough free time for that until sometime in mid March.  If
 anybody wants to work on it, though, let me know, and I'll lend a hand.
 
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Re: Asking for documentation help (Re: IPSec questions...)

2002-01-15 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 07:52:59AM -0700, Stefan Srdic wrote:
 
 I don't have any pratical experience with FreeSWAN at all, however, I have 
 statically compiled BIND 9 and placed it in a chroot jail on Debian. I 
 wonder if it would hard to packge a chroot'ed setup of BIND9 once it 
 completely configured?
 

As already said, documentation is a *Very* important part of a
distribution. IMHO the Securing Debian HOWTO (might change it to Manual
sometime in the future) does tackle an important issue.

I would be very grateful if you reviewed and improved the
(incomplete) information I wrote regarding Bind security in Debian (IMHO
it's better placed here than in a separate HOWTO).
Please read:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch-sec-services.en.html#s-sec-bind

SGML sources are available through CVS (check
http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp), patches for the CVS sources are
prefered but I will also accept any other suggestions.

Regards

Javi



Re: Asking for documentation help (Re: IPSec questions...)

2002-01-15 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
That would be great. I will accept patches anytime. Please don't
forget about writting it! (I will keep this mail, just as a reminder :)

Javi

On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 10:46:48AM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
 
 I'd happily volunteer to write the whole chapter, but I don't forsee
 having enough free time for that until sometime in mid March.  If
 anybody wants to work on it, though, let me know, and I'll lend a hand.
 
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Re: Asking for documentation help (Re: IPSec questions...)

2002-01-14 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans

On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 10:31:38AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
   I was wondering... could someone write a How to build VPN's in
 Debian small documentation for inclusion in the Debian Security HOWTO
 (http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp) it could make for a nice chapter in there.

I can't necessarily volunteer right now, as I'm far too busy, but I can
certainly put in some effort and provide some technical help.  I use
FreeS/WAN in just about every configuration it supports, all on Debian.

I'd happily volunteer to write the whole chapter, but I don't forsee
having enough free time for that until sometime in mid March.  If
anybody wants to work on it, though, let me know, and I'll lend a hand.

noah

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Re: Asking for documentation help (Re: IPSec questions...)

2002-01-14 Thread Lupe Christoph

On Monday, 2002-01-14 at 10:31:38 +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
   I was wondering... could someone write a How to build VPN's in
 Debian small documentation for inclusion in the Debian Security HOWTO
 (http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp) it could make for a nice chapter in there.
   Topics to comment about:

   - FreeSwan 
   - CIPE
   - Ssh
   - ...

   Any volunteer?

Not this one: ENOTUITS. But I'd like to suggest to incorporate
information from http://www.shorewall.net/PPTP.htm and
http://poptop.lineo.com/setup_pptp_server.html on PPTP and
MPPE. At least temporarily until the US vs. Non-US problem
for the kernel and PPP goes away.

I just set up PPTP and the description at the two sites applies
to Debian, too.

Obstacles that should be removed:
1) integrate MPPE in the kernel.
2) patch PPP for MPPE and MSCHAPv2.
3) upgrade PPTP to 1.0.1.

I sincerely hope this can happen soon. Until then, SuSE is ways
easier to set up for PPTP. (Dunno what they deliver in the US,
but here in Germany, they have those patches integrated.)

Lupe Christoph
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Re: Asking for documentation help (Re: IPSec questions...)

2002-01-14 Thread Stefan Srdic

On January 14, 2002 02:31 am, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 I w
 as wondering... could someone write a How to build VPN's in
 Debian small documentation for inclusion in the Debian Security HOWTO
 (http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp) it could make for a nice chapter in there.
   Topics to comment about:

   - FreeSwan
   - CIPE
   - Ssh
   - ...

   Any volunteer?

   Javi

I would'nt mind getting involved with the Debian project, even it is just 
wriiting docs for the community.

I don't have any pratical experience with FreeSWAN at all, however, I have 
statically compiled BIND 9 and placed it in a chroot jail on Debian. I 
wonder if it would hard to packge a chroot'ed setup of BIND9 once it 
completely configured?

Anyway,

I would be glad to contribute to any aspect of Debian itself. Just let me 
know what I can do.

Stef


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Re: Asking for documentation help (Re: IPSec questions...)

2002-01-14 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans

On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 07:52:59AM -0700, Stefan Srdic wrote:
 
 I would'nt mind getting involved with the Debian project, even it is just 
 wriiting docs for the community.

Even if it's *just* writing docs for the community?  A lot of people
don't seem to realize it, but that's one of the most important things
you can do to contribute!  In many cases, the code is all there but the
only people who know how to use it are the people who wrote it!

 I don't have any pratical experience with FreeSWAN at all, however, I have 
 statically compiled BIND 9 and placed it in a chroot jail on Debian. I 
 wonder if it would hard to packge a chroot'ed setup of BIND9 once it 
 completely configured?

I recall there being discussion a while back about packaging chroot
bind.  I don't know whether or not anything came of it at all.  There is
a chroot bind HOWTO already.  Last I knew, this only addressed bind 8
and did so from either a distribution independent or (worse) a Redhat
specific point of view.  I'm not sure where you would want to publish
your bind 9 docs.  Perhaps they'd be put to best use if contributed to
the Securing Debian howto.  Or you could offer them to the author of
the chroot bind HOWTO, possibly adding the Debian specific stuff as an
appendix to the main document or something.

 
 I would be glad to contribute to any aspect of Debian itself. Just let me 
 know what I can do.
 

If you're serious about your willingness to contribute documentation,
see http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp/  To me, it seems that a lot of the
docs there have a great deal of potential, but there's a lot of
duplication of effort.  I'd really love to see a relatively major,
broadly scoped document linked directly from the www.debian.org, similar
to the FreeBSD Handbook.  That's my suggestion, anyway.  There's plenty
of work to be done.

noah

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Re: Asking for documentation help (Re: IPSec questions...)

2002-01-14 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 10:31:38AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
   I was wondering... could someone write a How to build VPN's in
 Debian small documentation for inclusion in the Debian Security HOWTO
 (http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp) it could make for a nice chapter in there.

I can't necessarily volunteer right now, as I'm far too busy, but I can
certainly put in some effort and provide some technical help.  I use
FreeS/WAN in just about every configuration it supports, all on Debian.

I'd happily volunteer to write the whole chapter, but I don't forsee
having enough free time for that until sometime in mid March.  If
anybody wants to work on it, though, let me know, and I'll lend a hand.

noah

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Re: Asking for documentation help (Re: IPSec questions...)

2002-01-14 Thread Lupe Christoph
On Monday, 2002-01-14 at 10:31:38 +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
   I was wondering... could someone write a How to build VPN's in
 Debian small documentation for inclusion in the Debian Security HOWTO
 (http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp) it could make for a nice chapter in there.
   Topics to comment about:

   - FreeSwan 
   - CIPE
   - Ssh
   - ...

   Any volunteer?

Not this one: ENOTUITS. But I'd like to suggest to incorporate
information from http://www.shorewall.net/PPTP.htm and
http://poptop.lineo.com/setup_pptp_server.html on PPTP and
MPPE. At least temporarily until the US vs. Non-US problem
for the kernel and PPP goes away.

I just set up PPTP and the description at the two sites applies
to Debian, too.

Obstacles that should be removed:
1) integrate MPPE in the kernel.
2) patch PPP for MPPE and MSCHAPv2.
3) upgrade PPTP to 1.0.1.

I sincerely hope this can happen soon. Until then, SuSE is ways
easier to set up for PPTP. (Dunno what they deliver in the US,
but here in Germany, they have those patches integrated.)

Lupe Christoph
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Re: Asking for documentation help (Re: IPSec questions...)

2002-01-14 Thread Stefan Srdic
On January 14, 2002 02:31 am, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 I w
 as wondering... could someone write a How to build VPN's in
 Debian small documentation for inclusion in the Debian Security HOWTO
 (http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp) it could make for a nice chapter in there.
   Topics to comment about:

   - FreeSwan
   - CIPE
   - Ssh
   - ...

   Any volunteer?

   Javi

I would'nt mind getting involved with the Debian project, even it is just 
wriiting docs for the community.

I don't have any pratical experience with FreeSWAN at all, however, I have 
statically compiled BIND 9 and placed it in a chroot jail on Debian. I 
wonder if it would hard to packge a chroot'ed setup of BIND9 once it 
completely configured?

Anyway,

I would be glad to contribute to any aspect of Debian itself. Just let me 
know what I can do.

Stef



Re: Asking for documentation help (Re: IPSec questions...)

2002-01-14 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 07:52:59AM -0700, Stefan Srdic wrote:
 
 I would'nt mind getting involved with the Debian project, even it is just 
 wriiting docs for the community.

Even if it's *just* writing docs for the community?  A lot of people
don't seem to realize it, but that's one of the most important things
you can do to contribute!  In many cases, the code is all there but the
only people who know how to use it are the people who wrote it!

 I don't have any pratical experience with FreeSWAN at all, however, I have 
 statically compiled BIND 9 and placed it in a chroot jail on Debian. I 
 wonder if it would hard to packge a chroot'ed setup of BIND9 once it 
 completely configured?

I recall there being discussion a while back about packaging chroot
bind.  I don't know whether or not anything came of it at all.  There is
a chroot bind HOWTO already.  Last I knew, this only addressed bind 8
and did so from either a distribution independent or (worse) a Redhat
specific point of view.  I'm not sure where you would want to publish
your bind 9 docs.  Perhaps they'd be put to best use if contributed to
the Securing Debian howto.  Or you could offer them to the author of
the chroot bind HOWTO, possibly adding the Debian specific stuff as an
appendix to the main document or something.

 
 I would be glad to contribute to any aspect of Debian itself. Just let me 
 know what I can do.
 

If you're serious about your willingness to contribute documentation,
see http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp/  To me, it seems that a lot of the
docs there have a great deal of potential, but there's a lot of
duplication of effort.  I'd really love to see a relatively major,
broadly scoped document linked directly from the www.debian.org, similar
to the FreeBSD Handbook.  That's my suggestion, anyway.  There's plenty
of work to be done.

noah

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