Re: lp-device trouble
You have received some good answers and hopefully one of them will help. I'd like to add one thing. I recently had a similiar problem. I followed the docs diligently and installed everything perfectly but I still could not print. Then out of frustration I deinstalled apsfilter and tried magicfilter and suddenly everything worked. Apparently there is some kind of bug in apsfilter or Debians version of it. I would have filed a bug report except I don't have the slightest clue what went wrong. -- Jaldhar On Wed, 23 Apr 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a serious problem with my printer: it does not print. If I try to print anything (via cat as root, or with lpr), the device seems to receive data, because its display says so (PROCESSING...WAITING... and then READY). But it still does not print. My Debian is 1.2 of the InfoMagic Dev.Resource-CD. I'm using apsfilter_4.9.1-10 (well, in fact I'm _not_using_ it so far). My printer is a NEC Silentwriter S60P-Printer. This is a Postscript-Printer, but an old one. It works fine under DOS (Win95), and it had been sucessful the RedHat-Linux-Computer of a friend. I do not use plip, I read the Printing-Howto and fiddled around with tunelp, it keeps saying things like: # bash# tunelp /dev/lp1 # /dev/lp1 using polling # bash# tunelp /dev/lp1 -s # /dev/lp1 status is 223, on-line # bash# tunelp /dev/lp1 -i 7 # /dev/lp1 using IRQ 7 # bash# tunelp /dev/lp1 -s # /dev/lp1 status is 223, on-line with no positive effect on printing. I tried, if a kernel-version-upgrade would help, but nope: No printing with 2.0.27 nor 2.0.29. lp-support is a module in the kernel, kerneld starts it at boot time. # bash# dmesg | grep lp # lp1 at 0x0378, (polling) Can someone help me? Are there any tools to debug my problem further than with tunelp? Like a kind of 'ping' for lp-devices? Thank you in advance Frank Barknecht ### mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ### -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ACM 4.7-3 with Debian Linux 1.2.4
SUMMARY: I find problems with Air Combat Maneuvers coming as Debian (1.2.4) package, both trying to run it (can't load libX11.so.6 and once that is done with a workaround there is very slow motion) and trying to rebuild the binaries (random number generators, a portability problem which the man page says has been fixed). The problems may not just involve the (networked) ACM simulator itself, so I think some other Debian users may be interested. Slackware and RedHat are also mentioned. As I will be away and so not able to read incoming messages since tomorrow Thursday 24th until Monday 28th, I'll try to do an exhaustive report with this unique posting, though bandwith-intensive, I beg everybody's pardon in advance. I had previously sent this to Ian Murdock, who maintains the package (and who invited me to post the question to the list): --- Forwarded message --- Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 02:47:28 -0200 (GMT+2) From: Nicola Bernardelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ian Murdock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ACM 4.7-3 with Debian Linux 1.2.4 I can't run ACM 4.7 under Debian Linux 1.2.4, from which CD I had dselect install it. It's not a problem of my P90 system, I have by now some hundred hours ACM flight under and old Slackware installation (and some with a quite recent Slackware and RedHat). Here is what I get when I run acms. I tried putting symbolic links in /usr/lib and even /lib to have libX11.so.6 appear there (actually, inside /usr/X11R6/lib/ the libX11.so.6 itself is a symbolic link to libX11.so.6.1), but the result does not change: acms: can't load library '/usr/lib/libX11.so.6' Unknown error acms: can't load library '/lib/libX11.so.6' Unknown error acms: can't find library 'libX11.so.6' Here is my /etc/ld.so.conf file (I ran ldconfig after adding the last line, and I did it also with the X11 files already installed): /usr/local/lib /usr/lib/i486-linuxaout /usr/X11R6/lib I tried rebuilding with the environment variables x_includes and x_libraries initialized as the README explains (respectively /usr/X11R6/include and /usr/X11R6/lib) but when I run ./configure I get complains about the random number generators: checking for gcc checking for a BSD compatible install checking for ranlib checking how to run the C preprocessor checking for ANSI C header files checking for stdlib.h checking for malloc.h checking for unistd.h checking for elf.h checking for return type of signal handlers checking for X include and library files with xmkmf checking for X include and library files directly checking for -lXt checking for -laudio checking for AuCloseServer checking for ACloseAudio checking for -lnsl checking for -lsocket checking for -ldnet_stub checking for -lbsd checking for -lm checking for strdup checking for gettimeofday checking for setsid checking for rand checking for random Hmm. Your system does not support either random() or rand(). ACM needs one of the random number generators to operate. (Actually, I was also hoping to be able to rebuild with some Pentium optimization switched on, and by the way I wonder if the XF86_W32 server also exists in [possibly prebuilt binary] Pentium-optimized version.) The diff file on the CD seems to have already been applied. Please, can you help me? Enf of Forwarded message --- Of course I also tried putting a symbolic link in /usr/lib and even in /lib to /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6, but it didn't work. Why not try with THE OLD library file? So I have put a link to the same file I have in an old Slackware, August '95: libX11.so.6 - /mnt/linuxOld/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 NOW acms, the server process, succesfully starts and so does the frontend acm, but everything is VERY slow, also with another X server binary, an alfa (3.2A) I got a few months ago via ftp (...the one coming with Slackware 3.1 December '96 had no ics5341 ramdac awareness yet, while I was using _one_year_before_ that improvement done by Koen Gadeyne...). With that same X server, acms was running very fast (just thanks to the Pentium optimized kernel I suppose) under Slackware 3.1 and also under RedHat 3.03 (for the latter, PROVIDED I FIRED THE *OLD* acms binary and *NOT* the one coming with the RedHat package, which gave a similar slow motion too!!! but unfortunately with Debian 1.2.4 this makes no difference). I put some few attachments that _may_ (or may not) be involved: - result of startx with the two X servers I tried (--- those PEX and XIE complains reveal that also OTHER libraries are NOT loaded - maybe ANY - which ARE currently installed in /usr/X11R6/lib ---) - result of 'ldconfig -D' - result of 'ps -aux' - kernel configuration... Could it be the loopback device the cause of such slow motion? battle zone (cbzone), not a Debian package (yet, as I know) and not a networked game, has
Re: fvwm2: don't get window outline when resizing window
On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: I keep up-to-date with unstable. A few weeks ago I rebooted my machine for the first time in ages (had to go to dos/win to do my income tax). When I started up X, I found that I can still resize windows by dragging the corners or edges, but I no longer get a window outline while doing so. It's not a huge problem, since the mouse pointer itself tells me where I've gragged the edge to, but this seems like a bug. Has anybody seem this? Yup, this has been reported as Bug#8768. Have you tried playing with XORValue in your config file: some background colours interact badly with the window outline drawing code. Please let me know how you get on, Austin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem ftpd
Yeap it looks just fine! :( On 23 Apr 1997, Rob Browning wrote: Comet Mercantile [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hope this helps! its very annoying and I haven't really done any changes for this to have happenned! I am using BO btw maybe thats it. Hmm, it looks OK to me too. Did you check the /etc/shells problem that others mentioned... -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
globally override/fool dpkg dependency mechanism?
I do Perl development and I like to keep a current binary as /usr/bin/perl so that it gets a good workout. How should I tell the dpkg system that perl is available even though I don't have the standard perl package installed? -- Roderick Schertler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Critical Times article
I'll have to agree with Rick. I cannot believe that this person is a journalist !?!? I could tell right away that he did alot of research on the subject ! :) Come on guys... step outside our little linux circle and think about it. Linux is *vastly* unfriendly for people who know little about their computers and simply want things to work. What the author did wrong was that he missed the bigger picture and was hugely unflattering of the Linux community in general. As far as his comments of computer geeks goes he was achem a little ignorant, and very insulting. As far as his comments towords Linux's worth (especially as a server) he was achem a little ignorant, and very insulting. But as far as his comments torwards Linux's suitability for average Joe's desktop he was basically on the money. For all of those of you how do tech support for windows/mac imagine trying to talk one of those users you teach how to click the start button and go to Programs - Accessories - Dial-up Networking to install Linux. I shudder and feel sick at the prospect. For us our computer is a tool that makes our lives easier and opens up a world of information and friends around the world. Because of this we use the best tool for the job. For most people their computer is a necessary evil that they would banish to the broom closet if they tought they could get away with it. Lets not make either of our lives harder by trying to force Linux on them. Adam. - Earthlight Communications Limited P.O. Box 5301 Adam Shand (fax) +64 3 477 5463 Dunedin, New Zealand Systems Manager(voice) +64 3 479 0303 -- http://larry.earthlight.co.nz/ -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Rocket Port ISA card and LINUX
Hi, Ted == Theodore Y Ts'o [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ted I the file that he was looking for was probably autoconf.h --- Ted it's required by files such as /usr/include/linux/config.h. Ted autoconf.h is generated by the kernel as part of the make Ted config process. I thought about that. But then, the file autoconf.h (or, properly /usr/include/linux/autoconf.h) can be found in the package libc5-dev, which is required for *any* compilation. So, I suspect that if the customer has not installed libc5-dev, installing that would be the solution. In which csae one would be well advised to check if the customers machine has also installed other development packages as well. Incidentally, kernel-source-X.XX and kernel-headers-X.XX packages also will provide /usr/src/linux/include/linux/autoconf.h (Debian maintains /usr/src/linux as a symlink; the real directories will look like /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include/linux). IMHO these packages are probably not required. If the customer has downloaded clean kernel sources on their own, they *would* need to run make config to generate the file in question. So, in summary, have the customer install the libc5-dev package, and attempt a recompile. Please feel free to ask us questions if it still does not work. manoj -- Optimisation is not free. Gratuitous optimisation can be translated directly into missing features or later release dates. Peter da Silva ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ...and more bugs. ...and performance optimization without thoughtful performance testing is usually misdirected and, as above, at best does nothing and at worse delays/worsens the product and drives up life-cycle costs. your humble cookie editor Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Rocket Port ISA card and LINUX
Hi, I currently use the Rocketport here under 2.0.6 and 2.0.27 I just recompiled the V1.12 driver as I was using the 1.10 driver from way back. The driver compiled OK but I DO have autoconf.h on the system. I have it in ./usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.27/include/linux/autoconf.h ./usr/include/linux/autoconf.h This is possibly because I have the full source installed for some development work. If it is of any help I can provide the compiled drivers from both 2.0.6 2.0.27. The 2.0.6 driver is currently in use (V1.10) with the basic Debian kernel. I can also build the 1.12 driver with the stabdard kernel if you wish. Hope this helps Rowan - Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:17:21 -0500 From: Lauralyn Gorham [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is a customer of a coworker of mine from the UK. I'm in the US, so I don't know when I can get an answer to which version of libc he has. I do know he has the kernal revision 2.0.21. To be honest, I don't know if the customer has Debian, but I do. I was hoping by installing Debian 2.0.3, that I could duplicate his problem or at least investigate it a little. But I'm beginning to realize even more how different the distributions are. It's not so much that the distributions are different (everyone puts the include files in /usr/include and the kernel files in /usr/src/linux). The trouble comes when users don't install all of the packages, for what they might consider to be good and proper reasons (why do they need kernel sources, etc.). At this point, it's a question of what the right packages are to install, and there the various distributions seriously part company. The good news is that this is basically an install issue, and once we get through these install issues will hopefully be the end of most of the users' problems. - Ted -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Wavelan cards and PCI ethernet
Hi, I am trying to install a wavelan card into a linux box. The setup is: Digital Celebris XL 5166 Digital DE450 PCI Combo Ethernet Card (using tulip driver) Western Digital (wd8003) 8-bit (el-cheapo) Ethernet card (using wd driver) Built-In NCR SCSI Host (using 53c7,8xx driver) Adaptec 2940 Ultr-Wide PCI SCSI (using aic7xxx driver) (some PCI video card, who cares) The wavelan card I want to install is: NCR Wavelan v1.04 (930406), IRQ 10, Port 300 I have tried having the drivers for the 2 ethernet cards, and the wavelan card, as modules, but the wavelan card is not recognised initially and the DE450 is assigned IRQ 10 (is that how PCI does it, just looks for a free one?) and so I cannot load the wavelan driver anymore? I tried another tack: compiled the wavelan driver into the kernel and left the other 2 as modules, sure enough it now assigns the DE450 to eth1 but still uses IRQ 10, so I'm still stuffed. I noticed that the driver for the wavelan probes only at 0x390, whereas I believe this card is at 0x300 so I altered the wavelan.c file to match this, but still no go! Could anyone help me here please? TIA, 8---8 Richard Shepherd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 8---8 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
pon/poff not as root, like this?
Running pon/poff as root is quite straightforward, otherwise... On my Linux box with Debian 1.2.4 I created a pppusers group, I let user nbern (born as member of group users) be a member of it (and also a member of dialout, which is the group of /dev/ttyS1), and I set the following files as belonging to the pppusers group: /etc/ppp.chatscript with r-- permission for the group /etc/ppp.options_out /etc/ppp/options (no pap and no chap is currently used, the whole login sequence is done by chat... my previous ISP had pap but that is not crypted either [and this provider is much more efficient for the rest than our national monopolyst]) /usr/sbin/pppd with r-x permission for the group /etc/ppp/ip-up /etc/ppp/ip-down /etc/connect-errors with rw- permission for the group /var/log/ppp.log- It seems to make no difference I could go up to this point, where I was stuck: Apr 22 11:04:41 nick pppd[2036]: pppd 2.2.0 started by nbern, uid 1000 Apr 22 11:05:01 nick pppd[2036]: Serial connection established. Apr 22 11:05:02 nick pppd[2036]: ioctl(PPPIOCGUNIT): Operation not permitted Apr 22 11:05:02 nick pppd[2036]: ioctl(PPPIOCGDEBUG): Operation not permitted Apr 22 11:05:02 nick pppd[2036]: Exit. I could run pon as nbern only after typing this as root: - chmod u+s /usr/sbin/pppd --- Notice, no difference with g+s or g-s (g+s alone does not work). But I _have_ to give pppd to the pppusers group, otherwise I get this complain again: /usr/bin/pon: /usr/sbin/pppd: Permission denied Here I am. IS ALL THIS CORRECT OR AM I MISSING SOME SECURITY ISSUE? I'll be away since tomorrow Thursday 24th and won't be able to read incoming messages until Monday 28th, so please don't think I'm not polite if I don't answer immediately. Anyway, thank you in advance. Nicola Bernardelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for messages from any kind of robot, such as mailing lists. From that address no autoresponse messages will return even when I'm not at home. --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xautolock
I just installed xautolock and wish it to come up when X is started. Seems like the command should be in .xinitrc, but this dummy is having trouble even finding that file. any ideas? Thanks, Jim -- Debian Linux! Where I REALLY went today! Jim Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oz.net/~jim/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xautolock
Jim Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just installed xautolock and wish it to come up when X is started. Seems like the command should be in .xinitrc, but this dummy is having trouble even finding that file. any ideas? Well, if you're talking about it launching whenever you log in, yes, that should be done from your .xinitrc and/or .xsession files. (I just symlink my .xsession file to my .xinitrc file for convenience.) These files should be created in your home directory using your favorite editor, and you should make sure to do a chmod u+x .xsession .xinitrc so they'll be executable. The contents of the file(s) should look something like this: #! /bin/bash xautolock -time 5 -locker xlock -nolock -duration 60 rxvt exec fvwm2 -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Adaptec AHA1522B plus AHA2940UW
You can connect all your devices to the 2940. If you use the 50 pin internal connector for the narrow devices you need to disable onboard termination of the low 8 bits and enable onboard termination of the high 8 bits. You can still connect them externally if you get the appropriate internal to external or wide to narrow adaptors. The best source for these is probably Adaptec. You could still have proplems if the narrow devices are not compliant with the Scsi-2 specifications. You might be able to get the 1522 working by passing the right io-port parameters, either on boot, or to the module in /etc/conf.modules . --Brian Dong H Nam wrote: Hello, I have an ISA SCSI controller (AHA1522B) to which Iomega Jaz external and Plextor SCSI CD-ROM internal are attached and a PCI SCSI (AHA2940UW) with two wide hard drives attached (C:, D:). When I tried to boot from Debian Linux (Debian GNU/Linux 1.2.2), the first SCSI controller (AHA1522B) was not recognized, but AHA2940UW was. I disabled the bios of AHA1522B in vain. I tried with Slackware Linux with the same result. Therefore, I could not install Liunx since my CD-ROM was not detected. I can connect the CD-ROM to AHA2940UW, but I have Jaz still on the AHA1522B since AHA2940UW works that way. Please let me know if there is any way I can use both of the controllers or I can use all of the devices (Wide SCSI H/Ds, SCSI CD-ROM, SCSI Jaz) on the AHA2940UW. Thank you very much. Sincerely, DH. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: globally override/fool dpkg dependency mechanism?
On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Roderick Schertler wrote: I do Perl development and I like to keep a current binary as /usr/bin/perl so that it gets a good workout. How should I tell the dpkg system that perl is available even though I don't have the standard perl package installed? Install the perl package, and then replace the files you want with the newer versions... -- Nicolás Lichtmaier.- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Critical Times article on Linux
Nico == Nico De Ranter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [reply diverted to debian-user] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Times, a respected British newspaper, published an article that was offensively critical of Linux in its Sunday edition. Nico Is there any place on-line where I could read that article, I'm Nico getting curious :-) ? Yup. Go to yahoo. look for 'The Sunday Times'. go to that site. fill out the info they need. do a search for linux and there you are. (sorry I didn't save the direct url) Jim -- @James LewisMoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Blessed Be! @http://www.dimensional.com/~dres | Linux is cool! @Argue for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours. Bach -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Again - Multilink PPP vs. EQL
To: Steve Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org After burrowing around some, I finally found some info and docs on EQL; however, Multilink PPP is mentioned as a newer, and improved alternative. Unfortunately, I can't find any info on Multilink PPP in the HowTo's, etc. I thought mutlilink PPP was something only available for ISDN? If i'm incorrect, someone correct me. I have been looking at multilink ppp right now. (Trying to understand it really.) There is an RFC on it that gives a broad description of it and directly states that it is not intended to be used on only one link service. From the way it reads it should be able to handle one dial up analog modem and one ISDN (or more) at the same time. My ISP has currently been moving to a new location and has been supporting a Fractional T1 frame relay line to handle one of his old modem banks. A few days ago the router on the CSU/DSU died and the T1 bill came in at the same time. For the heck of it he set up several modems on the modem server for multilink ppp and had one call the new office. If several people call into the old modem bank one of the other modems dials up and starts sharing the load. He let old Bell kill the T1 line and now only uses the dialup. The response isn't too fast but it's miles cheaper than T1. Once the modems are running together the second doesn't drop our right away so it works ok. This message will actually go over that link. If you would like to know what the RFC is I can find out, it's at work and I am extremely interested in it. The modem server brand escapes me right now but I can find that out too. Nope, you're correct. It was something new to me to, but after some well-received guidance, I've got things straightened out grin By the way, Kevin -- what docs have you found on eql? Do you know if one has to use eql_enslave to enslave links, and if so, is the latest eql_enslave the one stored inside one of old eql patches on sunsite.unc.edu? About all I've found on EQL was in the NET3-Howto. I haven't tried any of this yet (soon, though), but from the docs it looks as if all you need is to run ifconfig eql up/down to establish the driver/interface. (Of course, you need kernel support for EQL as well.) Once that's done, there are additional steps required to establish connections to the remote system, but I can't remember those steps and I don't have access to the Howto right now. Also, I'm sure there are others _much_ more knowledgeable about EQL than I am - I'm a true newbie in this area. Thanks for the help, Kevin Traas Systems Analyst Edmondson Roper CA http://www.eroper.bc.ca -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Critical Times article on Linux
I think David Hewson was spouting off about UNIX -- and about it's renewal in Linux. Until Linux came along, it is true that there was no AOL-style propagation of the unix variants -- and that's what worries him. He's saying that marketing Linux along those lines -- tear it out of a popular magazine cover -- a fresh cdrom -- and destroy your world as you know it -- isn't a good idea. I concur. All insults he gave to Linux equally apply to SunOS, to NetBSD, FreeBSD -- but Linux' popularity shows though the piece; in a way, it's an honor to be singled out as *the* new unix-like devil. Thank you, Mr. Hewson, for this recognition. I've been running Debian GNU/Linux for almost a year; before that, a year and a half of Linux Slackware -- and if you wanted to pry it outta my hot little hands, you'd better bring along some sedatives, and have some snappy dialogue ready. The astronauts in the shuttle are in the same camp -- technophiles -- too. Long live such folk, and the systems they bring to market. But I agree -- keep Linux out of the magazine promotions -- don't present it as plug and pray; present it as what to do when you have completely mastered Ms-dos, Windows and wish a new challenge and new rewards. And new tools. -- Christopher W. Hafey (1:142/540) - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| 1078 New Britain Ave Apt 217 WA1TNR since 1974 | W Hartford Ct USA 06110-2434 http://www.tingri.ml.org | tel. 860-236-5400 - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: lp-device trouble again
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If it's a line-termination character problem, how can solve it? Well, with HP printers, there's a control character that you can send the character to set the convention. I don't know what you'd do for other printers, or even if it's actually relevant, but I'd say you should try the reference section of the printer manual if there is one. One other thing I'd suggest. You might try getting magicfilter, and seeing if it knows anything about our printer. As I recall it has a bunch of config files which know what codes to send to different printers for different purposes. Good luck -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Rocket Port ISA card and LINUX
I installed the ISA RocketPort card on a debian 1.2.8 machine with no problems at all. I had built a kernel first. John Foster On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:49:04 -0500 From: Lauralyn Gorham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ted. I'm going to be installing the 2.0.01 Debian Linux here shortly, in hope to find autoconfig.h file. Our UK office has a customer that seems to be missing it, and it causes the driver install to fail? do you know what it's use if for and where to get it? It's from the kernel include files, and it indicates that the compilation environment isn't set up properly. I don't know enough about the debian distribution to know whether or not all of the include files (including the kernel include files) are present as part of the default compilation environment or not. Depending how the Debian has set things up, the user might have to get a copy of the kernel sources and build a kernel before they can build the Rocketport driver. (This isn't necessary for Redhat, since their kernel include package --- which is mandatory if you install the C compiler --- has a fully configured set of kernel include files that match the kernel which they install.) I've cc'ed this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], in hopes that someone there can help shed light on this issue. Thanks!! - Ted 2) Linux with Kernal release 2.0.21 Their customer has a problem installing the driver. ( He downloaded the latest release from FTP site). The problem occurs during the recompile stage of the installation (step number 3 in our install guide) The installation fails with a autoconfig.h not found message. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
mh security
I looked at the debian mh and noticed it was suid group with the group mail and although I'm not sure that a non root user can newgrp to mail (I tried and it didn't work) I changed inc and msgchk to rwxr-xr-x (instead of rwxr-sr-x). Does anyone know if what I did could create any problems?? Did I fix any problems??? It seems to me that as long as I own my /var/spool/mail file inc and msgchk don't need to be suid. --- Forwarded Message Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Delivered: at request of mail on tinuviel Received: from smtp.gte.net ([207.115.153.29]) by tinuviel.cs.wcu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11712 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:37:43 -0400 Received: from russkiy ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [153.35.193.225]) by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with SMTP id NAA19793; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 13:37:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:37:46 -0400 From: RuSSKIy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Security Holes Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=150C4FA07A45 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --150C4FA07A45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.123.net/~onkyo/files/exploits/linux-mh.asc - --150C4FA07A45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=linux-mh.asc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename=linux-mh.asc There is a security hole in Red Hat 2.1, which installs /usr/bin/mh/inc and /usr/bin/mh/msgchk suid root. These programs are configured suid root in order to bind to a privileged port for rpop authentication. However, there is a non-security conflict between mh and the default Red Hat 2.1 configuration in that the /etc/services lists pop-2 and pop-3 services, but the mh utilities do lookups for a pop service, which doesn't exist, resulting in an inability to use any of the pop functionality. This may be a fortunate bug, since there may be more serious security holes within the pop functions of these two program. The security hole present in these two programs is that when opening up the configuration files in the user's home directory, root privileges are maintained, and symbolic links are followed. This allows an arbitrary file to to be opened. Fortunately, the program does not simply dump the contents of this file anywhere, and only certain formatting is allowed in the file to be processed by the program in order to see any output. In the cases where it will be processed, only the first line of the file will actually be output to the user. Program: /usr/bin/mh/inc, /usr/bin/mh/msgchk Affected Operating Systems: RedHat 2.1 linux distribution Requirements: account on system Patch: chmod -s /usr/bin/mh/inc /usr/bin/mh/msgchk Security Compromise: read 1st line of some arbitrary files Author: Dave M. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Synopsis: inc msgchk fail to check file permissions before opening user configuration files in the user's home directory, allowing a user on the system to read the first line of any file on the system with some limitations. Exploit: $ ln -s FILE_TO_READ ~/.mh_profile $ /usr/bin/mh/msgchk - --150C4FA07A45-- --- End of Forwarded Message -- Jason Killen Question Stupidity Mama's don't let your babies grow up to be Linux hackers Monolith : the new ANSI standard for humans PGP fingerprint = 64 71 48 14 31 AE C6 70 E4 4F 64 EB 3B AA 00 6B [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Fwd: Critical Times article on Linux]
Walt Tautz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i hope no-one takes this silly thing seriously -- this is what i'd call self-selective material. if you're going to listen to rubbish like this, then you're probably not the kind of person who'd be interested in linux anyway. in fact, i'd go so far as to say htis is a reasonable article on these grounds: if you don't konw that this CD he's referring to is a *completely different computing environment*, and that things like backing up your disk, etc, are novel to you, then this does the service of filling you in on these facts. otoh, the personal remarks against linus, e.g., are just bizarre -- this guy has issues. Apologies to those who get easily insulted, but is the article in question. Perhaps this should not be posted. -W.T. April 20 1997SOUNDING OFF [Image][Down] [Image] [Line] [Image] Your news selection in the Personal It is the craze of the month among geeks whoTimes love complexity. Avoid it at all costs Key coverage Linux, the PC program from hell in Election '97 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Wavelan cards and PCI ethernet
Richard L Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I am trying to install a wavelan card into a linux box. The setup is: Digital Celebris XL 5166 Digital DE450 PCI Combo Ethernet Card (using tulip driver) Western Digital (wd8003) 8-bit (el-cheapo) Ethernet card (using wd driver) Built-In NCR SCSI Host (using 53c7,8xx driver) Adaptec 2940 Ultr-Wide PCI SCSI (using aic7xxx driver) (some PCI video card, who cares) The wavelan card I want to install is: NCR Wavelan v1.04 (930406), IRQ 10, Port 300 I have tried having the drivers for the 2 ethernet cards, and the wavelan card, as modules, but the wavelan card is not recognised initially and the DE450 is assigned IRQ 10 (is that how PCI does it, just looks for a free one?) and so I cannot load the wavelan driver anymore? I tried another tack: compiled the wavelan driver into the kernel and left the other 2 as modules, sure enough it now assigns the DE450 to eth1 but still uses IRQ 10, so I'm still stuffed. I noticed that the driver for the wavelan probes only at 0x390, whereas I believe this card is at 0x300 so I altered the wavelan.c file to match this, but still no go! Could anyone help me here please? TIA, 8---8 Richard Shepherd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 8---8 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Well i don´t now the wavlan card, but i asume it is an ISA card. Depending on what BIOS you have, you shoud have a way to configure the assingment of IRQ´s for the PCI Slots. The deault setting is Auto and any IRQ. You can try leaving AUTO, and reserve IRQ 10 for ISA. If that doesen´t work you still try to assing the IRQ´s you want for the PCI slots. Hope it helps! -- Philip Rangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] c/o Bashford Lokstedterweg 112 20251 Hamburg Tel: 040/4808512 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HELP: Fatal Signal 11
John == John Maheu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Hi all: I'm fairly new to linux. Lately I've been getting a John lot of fatal signal 11's. John It seems to occur when my system has been up for a few days John under light load or up a day under a heavier load, running John some job in the background for about 24 hours. Then I get, John compiling using g77 (I had been running memtest in the John background for about 18 hours): I had exactly the problem you describe, and it turned out to be a stuck CPU fan. I had been cooking french fries in my small apartment, and the vapor from the oil gummed up the CPU fan. I was able fix it with some WD-40 (a light machine oil that comes in an aerosol can with a tube in the squirter to restrict the spray into droplets.) sprayed into the fan... I shut down the computer, and opened the case. Then, I unplugged the power from all of the drives and the motherboard, and lifted the lever to pull out the CPU with its attached fan. I took the fan off of the CPU, (breaking one foot-hook off the mount, but it still works.) and with the fan being the only thing plugged into the power supply, turn on the main switch. The fan would not spin; I spun it with my finger, and it started for a second, then quit again. I sprayed WD-40 inside, being careful not to drip on the computer's guts. I used enough so it dripped clean, and turned it on again, and got it started. It began spinning on its own, while I tilted it back and forth to spread the lubricant inside it. After I turned it back off, I wiped it clean with a towel, so it wouldn't drip inside the computer thusfrying my CPU, and put everything back together again. (Discovering that the socket7 is so designed as to make it impossible to insert the CPU the wrong way. Good thing!) The sig11's quit happening. -- Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.30t Have you seen the Emperor's new red hat? :-o -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Problem with cdwrite, Help needed bad
Hi all: I'm running kernel 2.1.29 from and Debian Version 1.2.8. I have an AHA2940 SCSI controller. On that controller I have a tape, HD and Yamaha CDR400t CDROM burner. The tape and HD work fine. The CDROM however works only a little. I can eject and read CDs only. Every time I try to burn a CD via cdwrite I get the following messages: cdwrite 2.0 Track 01: data 596 Mb Manufacturer: YAMAHA Model: CDR400t Revision: 1.0c Using mode:Yamaha Using speed: 2 mode_select6#2 result 0, pack_id 12 sense 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 26 02 00 00 18 of 18 mode_select6#2 reply bytes: 00 00 00 00 31 02 00 10 59 41 4D 41 48 41 20 20 43 44 write_data_track result 0, pack_id 14 sense 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 18 of 18 write_data_track reply bytes: 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 48 41 20 20 43 44 SENSE_ERROR iter 1: pipe_to_cd result 0, pack_id 15 sense 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 18 of 18 pipe_to_cd reply bytes: 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 48 41 20 20 43 44 SENSE_ERROR iter 2: pipe_to_cd result 0, pack_id 15 sense 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 18 of 18 pipe_to_cd reply bytes: 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 48 41 20 20 43 44 That SENSE_ERROR goes on forever. I do see a little flash on the write light of the CD writer. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks for your support Peter -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem with cdwrite, Help needed bad
On Apr 24, Peter Iannarelli wrote Hi all: I'm running kernel 2.1.29 from and Debian Version 1.2.8. I have an AHA2940 SCSI controller. On that controller I have a tape, HD and Yamaha CDR400t CDROM burner. ^^^ cdwrite is at the moment not able to work with this cd writer. You have to wait for new release, try cdrecord or write with dumb Lose95 software. Regards... Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HELP: Fatal Signal 11
On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, John Maheu wrote: Hi all: I'm fairly new to linux. Lately I've been getting a lot of fatal signal 11's. gcc: Internal compiler error: program f771 got fatal signal 11 This error means a problem with your memory or with your cache (try to look the GCC FAQ). You can try to disable the cache in your BIOS and compile again to check if this error is caused by it or by the main memory... * John Maheu Queen's University Dept. of Economics Kingston ON Canada K7L 3N6 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . .../\/\/\/\.../\../\ ../\./\/\/\../\../\.. Felix Almeida .. ./\/\/\/\.../\../\../\.../\/\... [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. /\/\./\/\../\../\/\.. .../\/\.../\../\.../\/\. Brazil .. ../\../\/\./\/\../\../\../\ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: cdrom mounting problems
On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Igor Grobman wrote: I am trying to help my friend install debian. He is getting the following error when dselect tries to mount his cdrom: mount: /dev/hdd has wrong major or minor number unable to mount /dev/hdd on /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt type iso9660 Anyone know what major/minor number mean? This numbers are used to identify a device in the system. Every device has its own major and minor numbers. Check if your /dev/hdd has the following major and minor numbers (ls -l): brw-rw 1 root disk 22, 64 May 8 1995 /dev/hdd ^^ ^^ major minor If not, you can use the MAKEDEV command do correct this (see the man page). Thanks. -- Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Felix Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Kernel panics
Dear all, On one of the machines here, which is more or less a clone of other linux machines, I keep getting kernel panics at times of low activity (e.g. 6 in the morning). The /var/log/messages file contains lines like: Apr 24 08:23:00 bobbin kernel: general protection: Apr 24 08:23:00 bobbin kernel: CPU:0 Apr 24 08:23:00 bobbin kernel: EIP:0010:[dir_namei+126/296] Apr 24 08:23:00 bobbin kernel: EFLAGS: 00010202 Apr 24 08:23:00 bobbin kernel: eax: 0035e12e ebx: 00be6002 ecx: 0001 edx: 00be6005 Apr 24 08:23:00 bobbin kernel: esi: 00be6000 edi: 00aa5f90 ebp: 00aa5f80 esp: 00aa5f40 Apr 24 08:23:00 bobbin kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 002b ss: 0018 Apr 24 08:23:00 bobbin kernel: Process sh (pid: 30271, process nr: 37, stackpage=00aa5000) Apr 24 08:23:00 bobbin kernel: Stack: 00aa5fb4 400e3471 bce0 0b8f 400e3472 00129feb 00be6000 Apr 24 08:23:00 bobbin kernel:00aa5f84 00aa5f80 0035e1f0 00aa5f90 03ff bbfc 03ff Apr 24 08:23:00 bobbin kernel:400e3471 bce0 0012a0e4 00be6000 0001 00aa5fb4 bbfc Apr 24 08:23:00 bobbin kernel: Call Trace: [_namei+43/180] [namei+44/68] [sys_newstat+39/84] [system_call+85/128] Apr 24 08:23:00 bobbin kernel: Code: 74 44 8b 54 24 28 66 ff 42 7c 8d 44 24 14 50 51 56 52 e8 13 after which the computer hangs. Is this a hardware fault or some problem with BIOS config? Any help is appreciated since my knowledge of Linux stops well short of kernel internals. Alvin -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: LILO cylinder problem
I'm reposting this since I haven't gotten any responses yet. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Rick Jones wrote: I don't understand why lilo is doing this. I've never had this problem before. I just repartitioned my drive and put linux on hda2. When I try to run lilo to boot linux from hda2 instead of hda1 it gives me this error about my cylinders. geo_comp_addr: Cylinder number is too big (2312 1023) I am aware that, for whatever reason, lilo won't look beyond cylinder 1023, the 540MB line that M$ drew out of ignorance years ago. (It might not have been Bill but I like blaming shit on him anyway.) Anyway. The point is that I took this into account and started hda2 at cylinder 817. I gave hda1 405MB, hda2 792MB, and hda3 is a 20MB rescue partition. So why in the hell does lilo report cylinder 2312 which I'm fairly sure is in hda3 when I'm setting up hda2 which starts at 817? I have used this same partition setup before without any trouble. Anyone have a clue? When is lilo going to recognise hard drives larger than 540MB? This is an ignorant limitation. Now that BIOS can read them when is lilo going to be updated? --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V97 #145
I have been using magicfilter for a while, and have had several good experiences with it. I remembered last night why I had not used apsfilter. I tried to install apsfilter last night, because there is no magicfilter on bo. I got a new printer, and am trying to get it working right, while preserving the setup for other printers. The apsfilter setup program put my system in a hammerlock, two or three times in a row, gobbling up all available swap space. I suspect either bash 2 or (more likely) the fact I am using the Aladdin ghostscript from non-free (happily, except it doesn't have drivers for the HP870). The apsfilter install script does interact, I think, with ghostscript. It froze up at the point where it was going to display a tabular of deskjet printer drivers. Why isn't there a magicfilter for bo? It works. Jaldhar wrote: Then out of frustration I deinstalled apsfilter and tried magicfilter and suddenly everything worked. Apparently there is some kind of bug in apsfilter or Debians version of it. I would have filed a bug report except I don't have the slightest clue what went wrong. -- Jaldhar Neither do I Alan Davis -- Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School 15o 8.8'N GMT+10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001145o 42.5'E Voice: (670) 235-6580 Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands in any community where conspicuous consumption is an element of the scheme of life, an increase in an individual's ability to pay is likely to take the form of an expenditure for some accredited line of conspicuous consumption --Thorsten Veblen, _The Theory of the Leisure Class_ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Anacron
On Tue, 22 Apr 1997 you wrote: This -should- help you. if not, consider install anacron, that will ensure your cron entries get run regularly if you shut down at night. It sounds like I need anacron, but I don't find it in my /var/lib/dpkg/available. In what directory is anacron located on the ftp sites? Bob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem with cdwrite, Help needed bad
There is a support list for cdwrite. Send subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Then send your question to the list. My Yamaha CDR-100 seems to write well at 4X speed on my Pentium with aic7xxx controller on the motherboard, but worked more poorly on some of my 486 systems with ISA SCSI controllers. I had to change the LILO parameters to increase the on-bus time of the SCSI controller to the maximum possible value. I also had to use hdparm to turn interrupt masking off during IDE transfers. You might also want to use irqtune to prioritize the SCSI and disk controller interrupts during CD writing. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HELP: Fatal Signal 11
On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Felix Almeida wrote: On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, John Maheu wrote: Hi all: I'm fairly new to linux. Lately I've been getting a lot of fatal signal 11's. gcc: Internal compiler error: program f771 got fatal signal 11 This error means a problem with your memory or with your cache (try to look the GCC FAQ). You can try to disable the cache in your BIOS and compile again to check if this error is caused by it or by the main memory... Thanks for all the suggestions. My fan should be OK as I replaced it 2 months ago. Last night I turned the external cache off in the bios, and ran memtest over night. This morning I found: Apr 24 08:03:00 macrae kernel: VFS: Wrong blocksize on device 03:42 Apr 24 08:20:00 macrae kernel: VFS: Wrong blocksize on device 03:42 Apr 24 08:21:00 macrae kernel: EXT2-fs error (device 03:42): ext2_read_inode: bad inode number: 2147686406 Apr 24 08:26:00 macrae kernel: EXT2-fs warning (device 03:42): ext2_free_inode: bit already cleared for inode 110220 I'm hoping this was missed by fsck at the last boot time? So I ran fsck. However I was able to compile a lot of code without a signal 11, untill I was in Xwin and only doing a telnet when the server crashed complaining about catching a Signal 11. Very Strange John * John Maheu Queen's University Dept. of Economics Kingston ON Canada K7L 3N6 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Anacron
anacron came with bo. (the next distribution, currently beta) search in frozen/binary-i386/admin I don't verify because I got kernel problems. But you should find it there. Alexandre On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Robert D. Hilliard wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 1997 you wrote: This -should- help you. if not, consider install anacron, that will ensure your cron entries get run regularly if you shut down at night. It sounds like I need anacron, but I don't find it in my /var/lib/dpkg/available. In what directory is anacron located on the ftp sites? Bob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem with cdwrite, Help needed bad
Bruce Perens wrote: There is a support list for cdwrite. Send subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Then send your question to the list. quickly: has anyone ever burned cd's using the HP4020i? m* -- The Shining One -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mgetty pppd dialin
Philipp JW Grau wrote: On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Stephen Davey wrote: There is an entry in the /etc/mgetty/login.config for /AutoPPP/ but it just seems to be ignoring it AFAIK there must be an Define in the Makefile, but I am not familiar with mgetty as a Debian package From the Makefile: # If you want to auto-detect incoming PPP calls (with PAP authorization), # add -DAUTO_PPP. Not needed if PPP callers want to get a real login: # prompt first. Don't forget to activate the /AutoPPP/ line in login.config! Have a close look on the docs of the Debian package, or perhaps fetch the source an make your own mgetty... ;-) I use the AutoPPP feature and have the binary 1.0.0-1 version. It works fine. You have to get the client which is dialing in to start sending PPP rather then looking for login:. This works well with Win95 Dial-Up Networking. I can use the same login/password for a telnet login and PPP login. Your problem is most likely with the client. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xserver_s3v
Mathieu Guillaume wrote: I'm using the lastest xserver_s3v from hamm with a Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 (S3 virge chipset). I can't get it to work in 16 bpp mode with a screen size of 1024x768. Supposedly, that's because the former s3v specs only allowed a maximum rate of 80MHz in 16 bpp mode. Since then, S3 relaxed the specs to allow a rate of 94.5MHz in this mode, so I wondered if a package would soon come which would allow this. If not, is there anything I can do to make it work without having to recompile the whole server ? I ran into this same problem with a STB Powergraph 3D. What I did was write my own modeline which uses the 80MHz dotclock. My refresh is only 59.6 Hz as a result, but that ain't so bad--a hell of a lot better than just using 8bpp. I looked at using the 3.2 beta, but I figured I'd rather just wait until they're done so the debian upgrades will go smoothely. (I initially used the XFree source for 3.2 because debian didn't have it and that was the only way to have native support for the S3V. It wasn't pretty.) I'll have to email you the modelines I came up with from home--I'm at work now. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HELP: Fatal Signal 11
Few month a go I had the same problem (sigsegv in gcc), solved it by changing the motherboard. I suspect it was the cache but I can't say for sure. Hope that helps, borik --- Boris D. Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] System Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Institute of Computer Science [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hebrew University Jerusalemhome: +972 2 6411880 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem with cdwrite, Help needed bad
On Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:04:41 -0500, m* wrote: Bruce Perens wrote: There is a support list for cdwrite. Send subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Then send your question to the list. quickly: has anyone ever burned cd's using the HP4020i? I use a Philips CDD2000, which is the same drive as the OEM HP 4020 but different firmware Dave 'Kill a Cop' Cinege (aka Psychopath #3) --- Super Genius at Large The Oklahoma City Federal building bombing - Americas first response to government abuse http://www.psychosis.com/ Libertarian Party 1-800-682-1776http://www.lp.org/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
kerberos packages?
A couple of weeks ago I believe that there was some mention of Kerberos-4 and Kerberos-5 packages to appear on the non-US sites real soon now. Does anyone have an updated ETA for these? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: LILO cylinder problem
On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Rick Jones wrote: I don't understand why lilo is doing this. I've never had this problem before. I just repartitioned my drive and put linux on hda2. When I try to run lilo to boot linux from hda2 instead of hda1 it gives me this error about my cylinders. geo_comp_addr: Cylinder number is too big (2312 1023) I am aware that, for whatever reason, lilo won't look beyond cylinder 1023, the 540MB line that M$ drew out of ignorance years ago. (It might not have been Bill but I like blaming shit on him anyway.) Anyway. The point is that I took this into account and started hda2 at cylinder 817. I gave hda1 405MB, hda2 792MB, and hda3 is a 20MB rescue partition. So why in the hell does lilo report cylinder 2312 which I'm fairly sure is in hda3 when I'm setting up hda2 which starts at 817? A bit of back-of-the-envelope maths: hda1=405MB=816cyl, i.e. 2cyl per MB. Therefore hda2 ends at about 1200MB=2400cyl. I don't run large EIDE disks, but I think the entire partition has to come in under the 1023 limit. After all, you have no control over precisely where in the partition the kernel resides. I have used this same partition setup before without any trouble. Anyone have a clue? Perhaps the kernel was nearer the start of the partition. When is lilo going to recognise hard drives larger than 540MB? This is an ignorant limitation. Now that BIOS can read them when is lilo going to be updated? -- David Wright, Open University, Earth Science Department, Milton Keynes MK7 6AA U.K. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +44 1908 653 739 fax: +44 1908 655 151 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Critical Times article on Linux
I agree with you. I also disagree with him. Linux can be just as user friendly as Windows and more, if it is setup by an experienced person. Or even a knowledgable person (even tho most of us aint good spellars). I think that most that come to Linux are as you say, tired of M$ and want a challenge. So we aren't a bunch of engineers. Set up properly anyone can use it and like it. My mom uses it sometimes and knows nothing about computers. He missrepresents the abilities of Linux in his article. That is what my problem is. Being a Journalist? he should have his facts straight. My X environment blows Windows v### away. It doesn't matter what version it is. I beta tested NT 4.0 and removed it from my drive the next day. With the work Debian is doing it won't be long before a novist can plug in a CD and start working in a stable, friendly, Linux environment. As long as a person can boot it, get on the net, and get into a mailer to mail this list, s/he, with patience, can go all the way with it. As it stands now. Allthough, I don't know if I would want my inbox filling with questions on how to cd \ or del temp.fil :) On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Christopher W Hafey wrote: I think David Hewson was spouting off about UNIX -- and about it's renewal in Linux. Until Linux came along, it is true that there was no AOL-style propagation of the unix variants -- and that's what worries him. He's saying that marketing Linux along those lines -- tear it out of a popular magazine cover -- a fresh cdrom -- and destroy your world as you know it -- isn't a good idea. I concur. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Java
I wish to be able to enable Java support in Netscape 3.01 without it crashing whenever I try a java site. Is there a patch or fix for this? I've noticed that when I do a Make Xconfig to build a kernel the selection to enable java support (CONFIG_BINFMT_JAVA) is grayed out. Do I need to change something in kernel sources? Would a non-production kernel i.e. 2.1.XX help? This is not vital as I have plenty of other things to do, but things that crash programs bother me. Thanks... Jim -- Debian Linux! Where I REALLY went today! Jim Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oz.net/~jim/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Rocket Port ISA card and LINUX
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: ... the file that he was looking for was probably autoconf.h --- it's required by files such as /usr/include/linux/config.h. autoconf.h is generated by the kernel as part of the make config process. /usr/include/linux/autoconf.h is 56 bytes and contains a comment about being autogenerated, don't edit. It's in libc5-dev. Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Java
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: I wish to be able to enable Java support in Netscape 3.01 without it crashing whenever I try a java site. Is there a patch or fix for this? I've noticed that when I do a Make Xconfig to build a kernel the selection to enable java support (CONFIG_BINFMT_JAVA) is grayed out. Do I need to change something in kernel sources? You need to answer yes to prompt for experimental drivers (or something like that), then you can compile java binfmt module. It has nothing to with Netscrape, though. Here's my /usr/X11R6/bin/nescape: #!/bin/sh MALLOC_CHECK_=0 NPX_PLUGIN_PATH=$HOME/.netscape/plugins:/usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins XNLSPATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/nls XKEYSYMDB=/usr/local/netscape/XKeysymDB export MALLOC_CHECK_ NPX_PLUGIN_PATH XNLSPATH XKEYSYMDB exec /usr/local/netscape/netscape $@ -- same as in debian netscape installer package (in contrib.) Change paths to reflect your setup. Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: LILO (DOH!!) J.B. does it again.
I moved all my files from hda1 to hda2 with the kernel being the last file moved. So ofcourse it is beyond the 1023 line. That would explain it. My mind is going and I'm only 32. Since I'm going to repartition this again I should give in and split it across partitions. You have a good layout for this in an 800MB limit? I have never done this since I was always worried about one partition outgrowing it's limits and being stuck re-installing the whole works. I haven't got a clue what directories to have in a root partition or what other partitions I should make, and there size. Well, other than /usr ofcourse. I plan on getting a good sized drive that Linux can have to its self in the next few months. On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Rick Jones wrote: So why in the hell does lilo report cylinder 2312 which I'm fairly sure is in hda3 when I'm setting up hda2 which starts at 817? I have used this same partition setup before without any trouble. Anyone have a clue? New BIOS may support cylinders higher than 1023, but old BIOS doesn't. Lilo may not make a distinction. I think you should check again what cylinder hda2 starts on. The important fact is where the disk blocks for your *kernel* are. With a large disk people often create a root I was thinking that it was in the range since it was in / God knows why. partition which the *know* is well withing 1024 cylinders so that the kernel is always guaranteed to be within range. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Java
On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Jim Smith wrote: I wish to be able to enable Java support in Netscape 3.01 without it crashing whenever I try a java site. Is there a patch or fix for this? Thanks... Jim -- Hi Jim, Just re-install Netscape with the debian package in the contrib section. You'll need to grab the installer for the version of Netscape you wish 3.01 or 4.??. You may need to grab the .tar.gz file from Netscape again if you don't still have it. The script requires it to be in /tmp? I think. That should clear up your java woes. :-) Rich M [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Java
This is what I do: (per the netscape/java howto) #!/bin/sh export CLASSPATH=/usr/local/lib/netscape/java_301:. export LD_PRELOAD=/lib/gnumalloc.so exec /usr/local/bin/netscape-3.01 $@ gnumalloc.so is on java.blackdown.org I believe this solves netscape crashing, in most cases - liem On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Jim Smith wrote: Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:29:35 -0700 From: Jim Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Java I wish to be able to enable Java support in Netscape 3.01 without it crashing whenever I try a java site. Is there a patch or fix for this? I've noticed that when I do a Make Xconfig to build a kernel the selection to enable java support (CONFIG_BINFMT_JAVA) is grayed out. Do I need to change something in kernel sources? Would a non-production kernel i.e. 2.1.XX help? This is not vital as I have plenty of other things to do, but things that crash programs bother me. Thanks... Jim -- Debian Linux! Where I REALLY went today! Jim Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oz.net/~jim/ -- === Contributions/posts to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.ssc.com/ssc/linux-list/archive To unsubscribe: unsubscribe linux-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Problem reports to list admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Liem Bahneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator http://www.cobaltgroup.com/~roland The Cobalt Group (206) 269-6363 x300 Seattle, Washington F(206) 269-6350 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Partition sizes - again...
I know this was asked not too long ago. I ignored it since I didn't intend on putting Win95 back on my computer. That changed since wine doesn't yet support some software I need to use. Anyway. I've never even thought of running Linux across partitions so if anyone has a good layout for root - usr partitions I would be appreciative. I want to keep the partitions on one drive in an 800MB space. I want to keep root as lean as possible with a little room for upgrade expansion and use the rest for /usr and whatever other directories might need room to grow. Thanks, --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: pon/poff not as root, like this?
On 23 Apr 1997, James LewisMoss wrote: Nicola I'll be away since tomorrow Thursday 24th and won't be Nicola able to read Nicola incoming messages until Monday 28th, so please don't think Nicola I'm not polite if I don't answer immediately. Nicola Anyway, thank you in advance. I'm here... damn... :-( food intoxication the doctors say... nice pink spots this morning when I woke up, though nearly none in my face. chown root.pppuser /usr/sbin/pppd chmod 4750 /usr/sbin/pppd YES, I had included and then cut away these lines: # ls -l /usr/sbin/ppp* -rwsr-x--- 1 root pppusers75944 Dec 7 23:54 /usr/sbin/pppd* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7796 Dec 7 23:54 /usr/sbin/pppstats* Ok, THANK YOU a lot Jim for parsing my actions, so I can say I have it now. Nicola -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Critical Times article on Linux
Just thought I'd kick in my two cents on this. I know Bruce thinks it best not to respond, but after reading the article I felt compelled. And I think that, with careful composition and a clear head, it's possible to argue with an idiot and not look like one. Maybe I'm wrong; you be the judge. Here's what I sent them. -- Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 04:38:57 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Hanson) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Linux, the PC program from hell I have just read the April 20 Sounding Off article and find it to be extremely offensive. I am a professional computer programmer and electrical engineer with 20 years of experience in this field. I use the Linux operating system for most of my work. In sharp contrast to Mr. Hewson's opinion, I believe that Linux provides an extremely productive environment. This belief is based on extensive experience using many operating systems, including Windows, DOS, and OS/2, and several versions of unix. There are some problems with Linux, as there are with all operating systems. It is well known that Linux can be difficult to install, and that it is not as friendly to beginning users as some other systems. But Linux has advantages as well. Linux is faster and uses less memory than most other PC operating systems, including Windows. It is far less prone to system crashes and lockups, which are a common problem on all of the Windows systems, particularly Windows 95. And there is an enormous body of software that runs under Linux. This software is freely available from hundreds of computers on the Internet. I can only conjecture that Mr. Hewson went to his local computer store, which for obvious reasons doesn't sell free software, and concluded that there isn't any software for Linux. Mr. Hewson is entitled to his opinion, and perhaps the sarcastic tone that he uses to deride not only Linux, but also users of Linux, is considered acceptable at the Times. But I resent being referred to as bug-eyed, strange, and obsessive; I'm sure my wife doesn't think of me in that way and I would hate for my children to do so. I am a responsible and respected member of my field, and when the Times chooses to publish such an article, you show a lack of respect for the talented individuals who make the Times possible through their design and construction of the computers and software that you use every day. Mr. Hewson could have written a reasonable article, presenting his negative experience in a rational and calm manner. Instead, he chose to liven up the article by means of insult and sarcasm, and by attacking the many satisfied users of Linux rather than the flaws in Linux itself. What this article demonstrates to me is his ignorance and his disregard for others, and consequently the poor judgement of the Times editorial staff in allowing such an article to be published. Chris Hanson Principal Research Scientist Artificial Intelligence Laboratory Massachusetts Institute of Technology -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Critical Times article on Linux
In your email to me, Chris Hanson, you wrote: Just thought I'd kick in my two cents on this. I know Bruce thinks it best not to respond, but after reading the article I felt compelled. And I think that, with careful composition and a clear head, it's possible to argue with an idiot and not look like one. Maybe I'm wrong; you be the judge. Here's what I sent them. Very nicely done. If everyone responded like that, we'd have no problems. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Don't hang on, nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. Kansas - Dust in the Wind ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Critical Times article on Linux
On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Chris Hanson wrote: Just thought I'd kick in my two cents on this. I know Bruce thinks it best not to respond, but after reading the article I felt compelled. And I think that, with careful composition and a clear head, it's possible to argue with an idiot and not look like one. It works for me. I might have added that he obviously got his impression from hear-say from those that had a bad experience rather than first-hand experience since his discription of Linux was off the mark. Like the telephone game, the final report doesn't match the original. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Partition sizes - again...
If your existing system is about what you want except for partitioning you can figure it out for yourself. This example assumes you're starting with one large partition and want to calculate sizes for the same system using multiple partitions. 1) decide on which partitions to use: - root swap - usr - usr/local - home for example. Some clever souls use a /logs partition (or /var/logs...) so that runaway log files won't fill up /. 2) Calculate your present disk usage: % cd /; du -sk . gets space used by entire filesystem % cd /usr; du -sk . % cd /usr/local; du -sk . ... 3) Do some creative subtraction: space needed by root for above example is: root - usr - home usr needs usr - usr/local ... 4) Do some creative addition or multiplication to calculate how much additional space to alot in each partiton beyond present usage (crystal ball-land.) HTH, --emk Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 16:20:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian User List debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Partition sizes - again... Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org I know this was asked not too long ago. I ignored it since I didn't intend on putting Win95 back on my computer. That changed since wine doesn't yet support some software I need to use. Anyway. I've never even thought of running Linux across partitions so if anyone has a good layout for root - usr partitions I would be appreciative. I want to keep the partitions on one drive in an 800MB space. I want to keep root as lean as possible with a little room for upgrade expansion and use the rest for /usr and whatever other directories might need room to grow. Thanks, --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Partition Sizes
Rick Jones wrote: I moved all my files from hda1 to hda2 with the kernel being the last file moved. So ofcourse it is beyond the 1023 line. That would explain it. My mind is going and I'm only 32. Since I'm going to repartition this again I should give in and split it across partitions. You have a good layout for this in an 800MB limit? I have never done this since I was always worried about one partition outgrowing it's limits and being stuck re-installing the whole works. I haven't got a clue what directories to have in a root partition or what other partitions I should make, and there size. Well, other than /usr ofcourse. I plan on getting a good sized drive that Linux can have to its self in the next few months. [ previous discussion cut ] Well, I wish I have a good partition map. When I used to administer Sun Workstations we typically set up machines with /, /usr, /tmp, and /var partitions, as well as swap. We arrived at the sizes after having measured how much we used on other machines. It worked well because we almost never installed stuff locally on the machines after they were set up--just the OS was local. So, I currently take the lazy route and put everything in one partition--not a good solution. I could also get bit by this same problem, although I haven't yet. The trouble with the / partition is that it isn't good enough to just get rid of /usr onto another partition--you also need to get rid of /var, /tmp, and /home if you want to do it right. I would almost say that the best idea would be to make a special partition for *just* the kernel, let's say /kernel and give it 1MB. This raises questions in my mind about whether or not the kernel has to be in the root partition. My programmer instincts tell me it shouldn't have to be there. Past experience with making naive assumptions suggest that I not bet the ranch (and risk a perfectly good and bootable system) on such assumptions. I wish I has a clean, available PC I could test this on, because I'd love to do this at home. Maybe you'd like to try this out for us? -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Partition sizes - again...
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: ... 4) Do some creative addition or multiplication to calculate how much additional space to alot in each partiton beyond present usage (crystal ball-land.) In particular, think about apps that use /tmp -- gcc does, and if your /tmp is on small root partition your kernel may not compile: not enough room for temporary files that gcc creates. Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
