Re: 10BT cables and lightning

[Carey Evans]

"Walter L. Preuninger II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[snip]

> Would running the cable thru some metal conduit protect me? Are there
> devices similar to surge suppresors for ethernet cables?

I was reading a section in an IBM manual about the requirements for
running twinax (sort of like thick coax) cabling outside a building.
Each end of the cable must be run through a box to protect the
equipment, and (paraphrased) the box "must be no closer than [some
number of] feet from any flammable objects".

I would really recommend trying to run it inside.  A hole drilled at
the bottom of a wall is quite unobtrusive in a carpeted room.

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Boot linux from two linux partition

[cheng]

Hi.

Sorry for this silly question. I am new to both Debian
and Linux.

My disk has following partions:
   /dev/hda1DOS
   /dev/hda2extended partion
   /dev/hda3swap
   /dev/hda4Red Hat linux
   /dev/hda5Debian 1.3
By installing debian, my computer starts from /dev/hda2
and boot /dev/hda5. Can someone tell me how to setup
lilo so that I can also /dev/hda4 ? I know there are doc
about it, but I can not find them. :(  Here is /etc/lilo.conf
-
boot=/dev/hda2
root=/dev/hda5
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
image=/vmlinuz
label="Debian Linux"
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label="Windows 95"


BTW, is there a way to find video configuration from Metro?
My /dev/hda4 (RedHat 4.1) can use X windows, but I don't know t
he configuration, so I can not configure xf86 for Debian.

Thanks a lot.

-ctang

 



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Bash 2.00 error in xterm

[Civ Kevin F. Havener]

I use startx to launch my xserver.  A default xterm comes up with no 
error.  However when I start a new xterm from the window manager, I get 
the following error:

bash: /home/havenerk/.bashrc:  line2: unexpected EOF while looking for 
matching `''
bash: /home/havenerk/.bashrc:  line3: syntax error: unexpected end of 
file bash-2.00

here is my .bashrc:
# ~/.bashrc:  executed by bash(1) for non-login shells
PS1=\u\'@'\h\n\w

Question 1:  since this used to work under bash 1.14, I presume it's 
related to bash 2.00's posix compliance, but what 2.00 convention have I 
broke?  Where should I put the matching `'' to get the same functionality 
as before?

Question 2:  Why doesn't the error occur in the default xterm.  After all 
that isn't a login shell...is it?

PS.  yes I know I should read the fine manual, but it's in 
incomprehensible english and comprehensible english is my native language!

  Thanx for your quick fix suggestions
  kfh


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Re: Upgrading 1.2 -> 1.3

[Scott K. Ellis]

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On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:
> 
> > ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libc.so (No such file or
> > directory), skipping
> > ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libm.so (No such file or
> > directory), skipping
> > ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libpthreads.so (No such file or
> > directory), skipping
> 
> > The strange thing is though, that these files and directories to
> > in fact exist.  Any explanations/solutions?
> 
> Sounds like a broken symbolic link.  Try "file /usr/lib/libc.so" or do an
> "ls -l" on the files to see where they are pointing.

Actually, those messages are an indication that the libc5 and libc5-dev
packages on his system are out of sync.  The solution here is to install
the proper libc5-dev package.

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Re: SMAIL/smarthost/BIND error

[gvl]

I would also start the search for a new ISP immediately.  Except for 
the BIND error report it seems to me that it's also possible may have 
changed their SMTP implementation (maybe a move to NT)  andt's not 
allowing some of the standard SMTP commands.

  But the lack of support for you, regardless of the OS you use, is 
inexcusable.  If they know anything about internet connectivity (they ARE 
an ISP, right?) then the errors reported my smail should have at least 
allowed them to troubleshoot enough to determine the location of the error 
so you'd know if it is you or them causing it.

On 13 Jun 97,  
debian-user@lists.debian.org wrote regarding:__ Re: SMAIL/smarthost/BIND 
error __

> Just something to try...
> 
> post.metrolink.net does not have a dns MX record. I don't think smail
> should give you an error if your smarthost doesn't have an MX record but
> it might. Try changing you smarthost to metrolink.net (it resolves to
> post.metrolink.net) and see if it helps.
> 
> I assume your name resolution is working just fine (you can ping
> post.metrolink.net from your linux box. If not, get that working first
> (start at your /etc/resolv.conf).
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Al Youngwerth
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> >  I posted this on June 10, but have not had any response, so I'm 
> > trying again.  My ISP says "we do not offer support for linux mail". 
> > I hope someone can give me a clue.  I'm getting tired of going into 
> > Windoze to send mail.
> > 
> >  I am running debian 1.2.4, and use smail ver 3.2-3. I have
> > configured it to use my ISP as a smart host.  /etc/smail/routers
> > includes the following:
> > 
> > smart_host:
> > driver=smarthost, transport=smtp;
> > path=post.metrolink.net
> > 
> >  This has worked fine for many months until May 31.  Since then
> > when I try to run the queue I get an error message similar to the
> > following:
> > 
> > bob:vc-1:bob>mailq
> > m0wbSvY-000ZEXC From: bob  (in /var/spool/smail/input)
> > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:33:44 -0400 (EDT)
> > Args: -t -oem -f bob -oMP sendmail
> > bob:vc-1:bob>runq -v
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: autometric.com matched by smart_host:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: mc.seflin.net matched by smart_host:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: metrolink.net matched by smart_host:
> > routed [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
> > post.metrolink.net
> > routed [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
> > post.metrolink.net
> > routed [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
> > post.metrolink.net
> > transport smtp uses driver tcpsmtp
> > transport smtp: BIND server failure: : Connection timed out
> > write_log:Deferred TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:smart_host
> > TRANSPORT:smtp ERROR:(ERR164) transport smtp: BIND server failure: :
> > Connection timed out
> > write_log:Deferred TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:smart_host
> > TRANSPORT:smtp ERROR:(ERR164) transport smtp: BIND server failure: :
> > Connection timed out
> > write_log:Deferred TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:smart_host
> TRANSPORT:smtp
> > ERROR:(ERR164) transport smtp: BIND server failure: : Connection timed
> out
> > 
> >  I now have to go into DOS/WIN3.1 and use Eudora to send mail, which
> > is unacceptable.
> > 
> >  Does anyone have any suggestions as to a possible cure for this?
> > 
> >  I have asked my ISP if he has made any recent changes, but don't
> > expect much satisfaction there.
> > 
> > Bob
> 
> 
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Re: Screen grabbers?

[Tim Sailer]

In your email to me, Dale Scheetz, you wrote:
> 
> I need to be able to grab some images off of an X windows session. I
> remember hearing hints that xv could do this, but I can't find any
> information on the subject.
> Can someone point me in the right direction?

xwpick

Tim

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Re: Installing Debian Linux

[Jesse Goldman]

Hi,

Sound as if you might have the wrong driver for your 3Com card. What model
is the card and what driver are you using for it? 

J. Goldman


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Re: Screen grabbers?

[joost witteveen]

> On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Erv Walter wrote:
> 
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > 
> > On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Works great, but seems to have some limits. I can't quite get the whole
> > > screen in the selection box and get an image. Once I shrink the size of
> > > the selection box sufficiently it creates an image. What determins the
> > > size limitation?
> > > 
> > 
> > As i recall, you can tell xv to grab an entire window and not do a
> > selection.  This is on the window after pressing GRAB?  Anyway, choose
> > entire window and click on the root window somewhere (background).  It
> > grabs the entire screen.  I have used it several times.
> > 
> Thanks! That worked...sort of. I can grab the first screen this way, but
> to grab a second one successfully, I must first kill off the xv session
> and start a new one, which will also grab only the first attempt. Oh,
> well, at least it works well enough to get the screens I needed.

I just want to advertise xwd again, it's so much easier:

xwd -root|xwdtopnm > root.pnm

No buttons, no clicks, just pres enter!

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Re: Installing Debian Linux

[Dale Scheetz]

When you boot up a base system there is a command line ftp and telnet
client available. Can you ping ftp.debian.org from the base system
machine? If you can't make the command line ftp client work:

>ftp ftp.debian.org

because of timeouts, but you can get to locations on the "local" net, this
begins to look like a DNS problem. Take a look in /etc/resolv.conf for
lines like:

nameserver 199.44.34.2

I forget how many are allowed but you can have more than one such line in
this file.

Hope that helps,

Dwarf

P.S. you probaby don't want to use the IP address above. It's my providers
Name Server ;-)
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Re: Release Date for Debian 1.3.1

[Dale Scheetz]

On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Lawrence Chim wrote:

> Patrick Ryan wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > When is Debian 1.3.1 going to be released?

When it's ready ;-)

With luck that should happen sometime next week...

> 
> What do you expect in Debian 1.3.1?
> 
The major push for 1.3.1 is to fix problems with the XFree86 packages.
They are currently in the process of being upgraded from 3.2 to 3.3. The
first round of testing showed up some minor problems that are being fixed
as we speak. If the new changes get past a round of testing they will
become part of 1.3.1 along with several other packages that have fixed
bugs. The list of packages added to 1.3.0 to make 1.3.1 will be found in
the ChangeLog file. (If it is done as it was with 1.2)

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: gcc can't find stddef.h

[Alex Yukhimets]

> Hi,
> 
> I'm having problems trying to compile some programs. gcc doesn't seems
> to find stddef.h. As an example:

You can always help gcc to find it by:

gcc ... -I/usr/include/linux ...

(substitute /usr/include/linux for any directory you want gcc to look for
included .h files)

Alex Y.

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Installing Debian Linux

[Richard Harran.]

  I have been attempting to install debian linux onto my Cyrix 6x86 PC
from the ftp.de.debian.org site.  I successfully downloaded the
installation disks (via windows 95), created a 300MB linux partition and a
linux swap partition, and got the basic OS functioning.
  When I ran dselect, i got the error messsage: "dpkg (subprocess) :
failed to exec C compiler 'gcc': No such file or directory", and "error 
exit status 2"
  The program ran and I chose the "Access" option, and then the "ftp"
option. I entered "ftp.de.debian.org" as ftp site, "debian" as debian
directory, "anonamous", "-rmwh2.trin.cam.ac.uk" as password, and tried
both "y" & "n" in response to "passive mode".  The message : "Connecting
to ftp.de.debian.org" was displayed for a while, then the error message :
"etho : transmit timmed out, Tx_status 00 status 2000 Tx FIFO room 1512".

  I am not very familiar with UNIX, but I managed to find the
/etc/init.d/network file, and to display it using edit.  This is what it
said: 
"#! /bin/sh
 ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
 route add -net 127.0.0.0
 IPADDR = 131.111.193.137
 NETMASK = 255.255.255.0
 NETWORK = 131.111.193.0
 BROADCAST = 131.111.193.255
 GATEWAY = 131.111.193.62
 ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
 route add -net ${NETWORK}
 route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1"

The values for ipaddr, netmask,broadcast, and default gateway are those I
use on my windows setup (which works).  (I also have ip addresses for DNS
nameservers which don't feature in the above setup file).  There don't
seem to be any network errors on startup, and I can cause the error "The
network is unreachable" by changing the NETWORK value to a different
number.  I am attatched to the network through a 3-COM ethernet card on an
isa bus, both being plug and play.  The card seems to initialise OK during
start-up.

  Please could you suggest way that I could access the installation
packages through ftp.

  Thank you

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Re: Screen grabbers?

[Dale Scheetz]

On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Erv Walter wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> 
> On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Works great, but seems to have some limits. I can't quite get the whole
> > screen in the selection box and get an image. Once I shrink the size of
> > the selection box sufficiently it creates an image. What determins the
> > size limitation?
> > 
> 
> As i recall, you can tell xv to grab an entire window and not do a
> selection.  This is on the window after pressing GRAB?  Anyway, choose
> entire window and click on the root window somewhere (background).  It
> grabs the entire screen.  I have used it several times.
> 
Thanks! That worked...sort of. I can grab the first screen this way, but
to grab a second one successfully, I must first kill off the xv session
and start a new one, which will also grab only the first attempt. Oh,
well, at least it works well enough to get the screens I needed.

Thanks again,

Dwarf
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Re: Release Date for Debian 1.3.1

[Lawrence Chim]

Patrick Ryan wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> When is Debian 1.3.1 going to be released?
> 

What do you expect in Debian 1.3.1?

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Release Date for Debian 1.3.1

[Patrick Ryan]

Hello,

When is Debian 1.3.1 going to be released?

-Patrick


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Re: Screen grabbers?

[Erv Walter]

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On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> 
> Works great, but seems to have some limits. I can't quite get the whole
> screen in the selection box and get an image. Once I shrink the size of
> the selection box sufficiently it creates an image. What determins the
> size limitation?
> 

As i recall, you can tell xv to grab an entire window and not do a
selection.  This is on the window after pressing GRAB?  Anyway, choose
entire window and click on the root window somewhere (background).  It
grabs the entire screen.  I have used it several times.

Erv

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help with man pages

[frankk]

I have installed Debian 1.3 and have a problem to see man
pages. If I try to see any man page (e.g man man), I can only see
the following : 

> man man
Reformatting man(1), please wait...

and the screen remains blank. After pressing CTR+C, I get my Linux
prompt back.

If I go into  /usr/man/man1 and execute

zcat man.1.gz | groff -man | less

I get what I would like to see when I type "man man". 

Also, the following may help: when I started the installation, I did
not have "interpreters". After fixing "interpreters" (perl, gcc, etc.)
I have still error messages related to tetex. 

Any idea how to tackle this problem is very much appreaciated.

thanks


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gcc can't find stddef.h

[Emilio Lopes]

Hi,

I'm having problems trying to compile some programs. gcc doesn't seems
to find stddef.h. As an example:

   gcc -O2 -g -Wall   -c asmail.c -o asmail.o
   In file included from asmail.c:16:
   /usr/include/stdlib.h:34: stddef.h: No such file or directory
   In file included from /usr/include/stdlib.h:234,
from asmail.c:16:
   /usr/include/alloca.h:24: stddef.h: No such file or directory
   In file included from asmail.c:17:
   /usr/include/string.h:33: stddef.h: No such file or directory
   In file included from asmail.c:18:
   /usr/include/X11/Xlib.h:73: stddef.h: No such file or directory
   In file included from asmail.c:23:
   /usr/include/unistd.h:104: stddef.h: No such file or directory
   make[1]: *** [asmail.o] Error 1
   make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ecl/debian/asmail/asmail-0.50'
   make: *** [build] Error 2

But I have stddef.h somewhere:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate stddef.h
   /usr/include/g++/std/stddef.h
   /usr/include/linux/stddef.h
   /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/include/stddef.h
   /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include/linux/stddef.h

Relevant package info:

   ii  cpp 2.7.2.2-4  The GNU C preprocessor.
   ii  gcc 2.7.2.1-8  The GNU C compiler (ELF version).
   ii  kernel-image-2. custom.1.0 Linux kernel binary image.
   ii  kernel-package  3.31   Debian Linux kernel package build scripts.
   ii  kernel-source-2 2.0.30-6   Linux kernel source.
   ii  libc5   5.4.23-4   The Linux C library version 5 (run-time 
libr
   ii  libc5-dev   5.4.23-4   The Linux C library version 5 
(development f
   ii  libc6   2.0.3-4The GNU C library version 2 (run-time 
files)
   ii  libg++272.7.2.1-8  The GNU C++ libraries (ELF version).
   ii  libg++27-dev2.7.2.1-8  The GNU C++ libraries (ELF version).

do I have buggy include files? Does some one has the same problem?
Solutions... 

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Re: Screen grabbers?

[Dale Scheetz]

On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, joost witteveen wrote:

> > I need to be able to grab some images off of an X windows session. I
> > remember hearing hints that xv could do this, but I can't find any
> > information on the subject.
> > Can someone point me in the right direction?
> Xv, click right mouse to get controls, click "grab" button just above
> "Quit" (Quit's in on the bottum, to the right), then you'll get another
> window, and click "grab" again: Now you can just click on any window
> you want to be grabbed.

Thanks to all who replied. This is what I was looking for.

The reason I couldn't find it: I had an old version of xv that referenced
docs in a package I didn't have. When I figured this out, upgrading to the
newer version got me the docs and I was able to read the fine manual and
obtain the answer given above.

Works great, but seems to have some limits. I can't quite get the whole
screen in the selection box and get an image. Once I shrink the size of
the selection box sufficiently it creates an image. What determins the
size limitation?

Thanks again for all the quick replies!

This list is the greatest!

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Re: Rescue disk hurts my ethernet card

[jghasler]

Joost writes:
> I think that it is however possible to fry hardware with linux: while
> trying 1.3 I inserted a wrong module for the cdrom interface and it fried
> the cdrom drive.

IMHO anything that can be truly "fried" in this way (that is, physically
damaged) is broken as designed.

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ip aliasing and virtual servers

[keith york]

I am new to Linux (just installed it a week since) and I want to get the 
machine to answer to additional ip addresses and run virtual servers with 
apache.  Is there a comprehensive guide to this anywhere?  I have read the 
mini-HowTo on ipaliasing but its not very clear to me (being a newbie!)  and I 
really need a step-by step guide.  I haven't a clue how to re-compile the 
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Re: SMAIL/smarthost/BIND error

[Heiko Schlittermann]

On Jun 13, Robert D. Hilliard wrote
:  I posted this on June 10, but have not had any response, so I'm 
: trying again.  My ISP says "we do not offer support for linux mail". 
: I hope someone can give me a clue.  I'm getting tired of going into 

... probably the wrong ISP.   (But not the help you'd have expected ;-))

: bob:vc-1:bob>mailq
: m0wbSvY-000ZEXC From: bob  (in /var/spool/smail/input)
: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:33:44 -0400 (EDT)
: Args: -t -oem -f bob -oMP sendmail
: bob:vc-1:bob>runq -v
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: autometric.com matched by smart_host:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: mc.seflin.net matched by smart_host:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: metrolink.net matched by smart_host:
: routed [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
: post.metrolink.net
: routed [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
: post.metrolink.net
: routed [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
: post.metrolink.net
: transport smtp uses driver tcpsmtp
: transport smtp: BIND server failure: : Connection timed out
 ~~~

Reads as an DNS problem.  Try to turn on more debugging in smail 
(-v1000 or somewhat similar, see the manpage ...).  This way you should
be able to find what actually is the BIND failure.  No MX (but that
should'nt hurd), no response ... 

Try ``mx post.metrolink.net'' or ``host post.metrolink.net''.



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Installing Debian Linux

[Richard Harran.]

  I have been attempting to install debian linux onto my Cyrix 6x86 PC
from the ftp.de.debian.org site.  I successfully downloaded the
installation disks (via windows 95), created a 300MB linux partition and a
linux swap partition, and got the basic OS functioning.
  When I ran dselect, i got the error messsage: "dpkg (subprocess) :
failed to exec C compiler 'gcc': No such file or directory", and "error 
exit status 2"
  The program ran and I chose the "Access" option, and then the "ftp"
option. I entered "ftp.de.debian.org" as ftp site, "debian" as debian
directory, "anonamous", "-rmwh2.trin.cam.ac.uk" as password, and tried
both "y" & "n" in response to "passive mode".  The message : "Connecting
to ftp.de.debian.org" was displayed for a while, then the error message :
"etho : transmit timmed out, Tx_status 00 status 2000 Tx FIFO room 1512".

  I am not very familiar with UNIX, but I managed to find the
/etc/init.d/network file, and to display it using edit.  This is what it
said: 
"#! /bin/sh
 ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
 route add -net 127.0.0.0
 IPADDR = 131.111.193.137
 NETMASK = 255.255.255.0
 NETWORK = 131.111.193.0
 BROADCAST = 131.111.193.255
 GATEWAY = 131.111.193.62
 ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
 route add -net ${NETWORK}
 route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1"

The values for ipaddr, netmask,broadcast, and default gateway are those I
use on my windows setup (which works).  (I also have ip addresses for DNS
nameservers which don't feature in the above setup file).  There don't
seem to be any network errors on startup, and I can cause the error "The
network is unreachable" by changing the NETWORK value to a different
number.  I am attatched to the network through a 3-COM ethernet card on an
isa bus, both being plug and play.  The card seems to initialise OK during
start-up.

  Please could you suggest way that I could access the installation
packages through ftp.

  Thank you

  Richard Harran.
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Re: Screen grabbers?

[Brandon Mitchell]

On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> I need to be able to grab some images off of an X windows session. I
> remember hearing hints that xv could do this, but I can't find any
> information on the subject.
> Can someone point me in the right direction?

The current Linux Gazette Weekend Mechanic:
http://www.ssc.com/lg/issue18/lg_toc18.html
List: xv, xwpick, and xwd
as the programs he used to get some screen grabs.  xwd dumps what ever
window you want.  xwpick lets you draw a rectangle where you want to dump
to take place.

HTH,
Brandon

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Re: auth.log: su(to root) fails 1000 times /min?

[Brandon Mitchell]

On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, joost witteveen wrote:

> 
> >From my /var/adm/log.auth:
> Jun 12 23:05:57 rulcmc su: FAILED SU (to root) joost on none
> Jun 12 23:06:28 rulcmc last message repeated 552 times

Looks like a program caught in an infinite loop.  Check for processes
under your user name that are hoging all the cpu time using "ps aux".
Since it is on none, it reminds me of a crontab or a boot message, but the
time looks a bit off for that.  Do you have any scripts that have an su
placed in a loop.

HTH,
Brandon

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Re: Upgrading 1.2 -> 1.3

[Brandon Mitchell]

On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:

> ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libc.so (No such file or
> directory), skipping
> ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libm.so (No such file or
> directory), skipping
> ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libpthreads.so (No such file or
> directory), skipping

> The strange thing is though, that these files and directories to
> in fact exist.  Any explanations/solutions?

Sounds like a broken symbolic link.  Try "file /usr/lib/libc.so" or do an
"ls -l" on the files to see where they are pointing.

> Is it true that dselect can't handle missing files even if they're
> not needed?  Any way to get around the problem.  Debian is so big
> now that a solution needs to be found, other wise I will have
> tremendous problems installing Debian.

If you are making a special mirror (i.e. non standard), make a special
packages file using dpkg-scanpackages from dpkg-dev.  In the mounted
option of dselect, I point the "_main_ binary dir" to the root of my
mirror where my packages file for all packages exist.

HTH,
Brandon

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Re: 3c905 problems with 1.3 (and 1.2.5)

[Dave Cinege]

On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 15:37:12 +1000 (EST), Tim Bell wrote:

>Rick Macdonald wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Tim Bell wrote:
>> 
>> > So, I figured I'd go back to the 1.2.5 setup which had worked. This I
>> > did, and it worked -- until I rebooted.
>> 
>> I had similar problems once, but nothing to do with a network card.
>> It turned out that lilo.conf wasn't pointed at the partition that I
>> thought it was, so when I ran lilo and rebooted I wasn't getting the
>> kernel that I thought I was.
>> 
>> Others have done the same thing. Can you verify you're booting the
>> intended kernel? You didn't say anything about how you were booting.
>
>I'm booting with lilo (whichever version comes with 1.2.5 or 1.3) and
>I have verified I'm booting what I think I'm booting. I've been fiddling
>with different kernel configurations, so I've been checking kernel
>compile dates and lilo configurations regularly.
>
>The funny thing is that it will work with a kernel once, but never again.

Sometime the cards needs a 'jump start'. I've seen it where I start 
ping...it would fail and I would stop it after a few seconds. Start 
another ping, and it would fail. Start yet another ping, and after failing
about 8 times, I would see some I/O errors, then the board would kick in, 
and for the rest of that session be OK.

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Big Problem in upgrading from 1.2 to 1.3

[Chris Brown]

 I have a machine that I was using on my net here and I upgraded 
it from 1.2 to 1.3 over the last couple of days.  When I rebooted 
this morning the machine came back up with my old 2.0.27 kernel but I 
can't get an aliased address on the ethernet port.  The reason that 
it is a big problem is that the machine is temporarily acting as a 
router between 2 subnets that happen to be running on the same 
ethernet cable.  Once I get my filtering gateway running correctly it 
won't be a problem because these subnets will actually be split but 
until then I'm in real trouble.


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Re: Screen grabbers?

[joost witteveen]

> I need to be able to grab some images off of an X windows session. I
> remember hearing hints that xv could do this, but I can't find any
> information on the subject.
> Can someone point me in the right direction?
Xv, click right mouse to get controls, click "grab" button just above
"Quit" (Quit's in on the bottum, to the right), then you'll get another
window, and click "grab" again: Now you can just click on any window
you want to be grabbed.

Note that you can also do this with:
  xwd | xwud

(xwd gives a file to stdout; xv understands this format).

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Re: Tape backup

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Fri, Jun 13, 1997 at 03:56:00PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> I am using an iomega "jaz" removable disk cartridge for backup. I got
> the scsi internal version for $299 with one disk. The disks aren't
> cheap: $100 for 1GB, but they are fast and much more convenient than
> tape and useful for much more than backup. Compare them to $40 for a
> travan cartrige and there doesn't seem to be much reason to use tape
> any longer unless you are going to DAT or 8mm with their multi-gigabyte
> capacity. I've been testing Debian installs by installing the entire
> system on the jaz cartrige. I also use them for "sneakernet" to carry
> 1GB from work to home and back.

Well, a $40 Travan cartridge can store 1.6Gb or 2Gb in the right flavours,
and the cartridges are a bit cheaper. The speed would have to be better
then the Iomega floppy-controller tape drives though ...



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Screen grabbers?

[Dale Scheetz]

I need to be able to grab some images off of an X windows session. I
remember hearing hints that xv could do this, but I can't find any
information on the subject.
Can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks,

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Re: Rescue disk hurts my ethernet card

[J.P.D. Kooij]

On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Jun 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
> 
> > fit in the kernel. If you can tell me about the I/O ports of your network
> > card we can give you magic words to put on the boot command line for that
> > device that reserve its ports and prevent other drivers from touching them.
> 
> Fraid the reserve boot command did not help this problem, it's EEProm IO
> ports may not have been in the region I had the card set to or one of the
> drivers may be ill behaved. 

I've struggled with some software configurable isa ne2k's. They appeared
to function quite nicely with linux, but win95's autoprobing had severe
difficulties with the cards. The dos configuration utility would let me 
change io and irq settings just fine, I could also write them to the 
"register" but not to the card's eeprom, giving me an error in the 
card's own setup utility.

The problem appeared to be that the cards used a different combination of irq
and io for configuration and actual operation. It listened only half the
time to the operation addresses and the configuration addresses were
conflicting with other hardware. 

This kept me stumped for quite a while and until I figured it out I too
had long bought pci cards (which also gave some trouble .) 

This was the solution in my case:  
-on the motherboard bios setup, disable com2:, freeing irq 3. 
-with the dos utility, set the io and irq to what the card uses to 
receive programming data.
-then set it to what would suit the computer's available interrupts and 
io addresses. Don't forget to write the settings to the card's eeprom.

In your case, the conflicts may ofcourse be a little bit harder to 
resolve before you can access the card again. Maybe it doesn't work 
altogether on your card. Maybe it's really burnt. You can always try.

>I've long since gotten rid of it, now have a RealTek PCI NE2k. 

Hmmm, I bought winbonds. They don't work without a patch. It would be 
great if this patch would make it to the next bootfloppy, or even better 
- 2.0.31. Until then, I have to make my own rescue-floppy kernels.

> I heard of two fried network cards, one was mine and one was a friends,
> both D-Link DE-250's and both fried by booting the rescue disk. My other
> De-250 just got disabled during linux's boot, had a bit of a time figuring
> out why Linux didn't want to use my card till I figured it out.

Please check my solution if that may help you, if the reprogrammed io and 
irq aren't too outrageous there may still be hope. 

I think that it is however possible to fry hardware with linux: while
trying 1.3 I inserted a wrong module for the cdrom interface and it fried
the cdrom drive. 

Good luck,


Joost


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Re: Rescue disk hurts my ethernet card

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Thu, Jun 12, 1997 at 04:39:53PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> When I rebooted to linux I noticed several network error 
> messages, and ping showed "Network is unreachable".
> Apparently the rescue disk had confused my WD8013 ethernet
> card. Then I booted do DOS -- and it complety hang after
> probing the ethernet card: "WD80x3 adress PROM contents are
> invalid". I did a hard reset, and, look, my ethernet card
> automagically awoke from paralyzation -- what the hell had
> happened?
> 
> I remember that I had similar problems with two cheapo NE2000
> clones after installing Debian the first time. One (Debian 1.1,
> Dec 96) came back to life after consulting the DOS 
> configuration tool (grrr...). The second case (1.2, Apr 97)

> Am I the only one with such an expirience? I should add that I

Interesting. I've got quite a few NE2000s and haven't had them
lose their configuration, but I have had quite a few (about
three now) die completely. I'm currently using an WD 8013 in my
PC, which on a couple of occasions has had invalid PROM
states; the DOS driver won't load, and I haven't had the
EtherEZ stuff on hand to reconfigure it. Usually, I boot
Linux and Linux revives it.

8013 seems to be quite a good card. Better than the NE2000's
I've got. And I bought it for $1.50 Australian out of a junk
basket at a local electronics store; marked "no drivers."
Better than the $40 NE2000s. I also bought (for $5) a big
VLB IDE/IO/SCSI card (Adaptec 1520 based), also "no drivers."


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Re: 10BT cables and lightning

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Thu, Jun 12, 1997 at 08:59:32AM -0500, Walter L. Preuninger II wrote:
> I would like to setup my home-net using 10bt cables between my linux and
> windoze boxen, but the only way I have to run the cables is to run it out
> a window, under the house, and back in a window. Is there any method of
> protecting the cables & cards from lightning damage? Several pc's and a 16
> port concentrator died recently due to a very close lightning strike.
> 
> Would running the cable thru some metal conduit protect me? Are there
> devices similar to surge suppresors for ethernet cables?

Ouch. Sounds like Ethernet just isn't intended for the environment
you're intending. You really can't drill a couple of holes in the floor
or the walls?

The metal conduit might help, but it may also attract the lightning ..


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Partitioning a 34GB Harware Raid

[Markus Diesmann]

This is a follow up to my last weeks question.

I was not able to create a 34GB ext2 file system on
a primiary partition using fdisk and mke2fs.

However, when I first create a 1GB primary partition and 
a 33GB logical partition. It works. I was able to create
a 33GB file system on the logical partition.

Can this analysis be correct?
Is there a size limitation for primary but not for logical
partitions?
Before I move all the home accounts of our research group to
the raid I would like to be sure that everything is correct.

Thanks,

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Re: libXt.so.6

[Shaya Potter]

It's still an aout file, therefore you need the xcompat package for the
aout libs.

HTH,

Shaya

On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, dpk wrote:

> I have had problems with multple programs finding 'libXt.so.6'.  I am
> hoping to stop giving up on packages/software because of this and actually
> solve the problem.  My recent confrontation was when I installed
> mpeg_play.  These is the errors I get:
> 
> mpeg_play: can't load library '/usr/lib/libXt.so.6'
> Unknown error
> mpeg_play: can't load library '/lib/libXt.so.6'
> Unknown error
> mpeg_play: can't find library 'libXt.so.6'
> 
> This library does exist, however it is in /usr/X11R6/lib. I am running
> Debian 1.2.6 and have added /usr/X11R6/lib to my /etc/ld.so.conf and ran
> ldconfig. I have tried making a symbolic link to it from /usr/lib and /lib
> to see if that would fix the problem however no such luck.  I find this to
> be odd, because netscape and sirc ( a perl irc client ) have been the only
> NON-debian installs.  And I don't have any unconfigured or error-ing
> packages I figure it *should* work being basically a totally debian
> box.  I have tried to set paths ( I use tcsh ) and have had no such luck.
> Anyone know a fix for this problem?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dennis
>  
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Re: Rescue disk hurts my ethernet card

[Bruce Perens]

The EEPROM getting scrambled is a result of drivers probing for devices
on the bus that don't happen to be there, and hitting the network card
instead. This happens more with the rescue disk than with a custom kernel
because the rescue disk is built for every scsi and ethernet card we could
fit in the kernel. If you can tell me about the I/O ports of your network
card we can give you magic words to put on the boot command line for that
device that reserve its ports and prevent other drivers from touching them.

This isn't strictly a Debian problem - it'll happen to any generic kernel
with all of the device drivers built in. Also, well-designed hardware wants
you to say the exact right magic words before it makes its EEPROM writable.
It doesn't write it for just any random I/O. I'd suggest that others stay
away from net cards that exhibit this behavior.

Thanks

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installing debian onto a new partition w/o rebooting

[Joey Hess]

I have a machine thas has been running as a diskless box that mounts / over
nfs. I now have an 800 mb drive to put in it, so I want to use that to
install debian on the machine. Since this computer is also a headless box,
I'd prefer to be able to accomplish this without hooking a monitor up to it,
ie, from a telnet session.

Well, I've installed dpkg_1.4.0.17_i386.nondebbin.tar.gz into the new
partition, which is mounted on /mnt. Next, I tried to install ldso, but I'm
getting this error:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] />dpkg --root=/mnt -i 
/var/mirror/debian/hamm/hamm/binary/base/ldso_1.9.2-3.deb  
(Reading database ... 0 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking ldso (from .../binary/base/ldso_1.9.2-3.deb) ...
dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute new pre-installation script: No such file 
or directory
dpkg: error processing 
/var/mirror/debian/hamm/hamm/binary/base/ldso_1.9.2-3.deb (--install):
 subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/mirror/debian/hamm/hamm/binary/base/ldso_1.9.2-3.deb

Hm, I've never seen this error before... anyone have an idea what it's
talking about? Even better, does anyone have a list of commands you need to
run to install debian onto a new partition like this, or what packages
should be installed in what order, etc?

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Master.debian.org

[Nathan E Norman]

master.debian.org down?? I can't even ping it!

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securing my X server

[HenSiong Tan]

Pardon me,

I have Debian 1.3 installed, and are trying to start 
the X server with 

   /usr/bin/X11/xinit -auth $HOME/.Xauthority

This works ... .  But when I provide the remote host, 
a Sparc machine running solaris 2.5, with my magic 
cookie (xauth add $DISPLAY . x cookie ) 
and execute, say, "xterm &", I got the message

   Xlib: connection to "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0.0" refused by server
   Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
   Error: Can't open display: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0.0

at the remote machine.  What am I doing wrong here?

Could it be that the script I use to generate the 
magic cookie not usable on a Debian system?  I found 
it at

   http://cc-toolkit.crd.ge.com/tkxauth/bet-1.txt

There was a mention about non-portability but I am 
not totally sure if it is the case here.  Maybe the 
knowledgeables can check this out for us.

Does anyone has workable script then?  I am aware 
that xdm is suppose to run a secure X server.  Is 
this script already sitting on my machine?  Where 
can I find it?  I ready don't wish to run xdm.

Thank you in advance!

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Re: 3c905 problems with 1.3 (and 1.2.5)

[Rick Macdonald]

On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Tim Bell wrote:

> So, I figured I'd go back to the 1.2.5 setup which had worked. This I
> did, and it worked -- until I rebooted.

I had similar problems once, but nothing to do with a network card.
It turned out that lilo.conf wasn't pointed at the partition that I
thought it was, so when I ran lilo and rebooted I wasn't getting the
kernel that I thought I was.

Others have done the same thing. Can you verify you're booting the
intended kernel? You didn't say anything about how you were booting.

...RickM...


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checkergcc

[lapreste]

I have installed checker on debian 1.3 and it works fine, but if I try to
link files with X librairies I encounter at my program compilation the
following kind of messages :



cd /home/jtl/esa/model2/
make -fmkvisu -k 
checkergcc -Wall -g -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../libsx/src -c 
RdStr.c -o RdStr.o
checkergcc -Wall -g -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../libsx/src -c loc.c 
-o loc.o
checkergcc -Wall -g -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../libsx/src -c 
camera.c -o camera.o
checkergcc   visu.o intervisu.o RdStr.o point3d.o matrix.o binmoddrw.o names.o 
binarymod.o hidden.o loc.o camera.o perm.o  -o visu -L/usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw95 
-L/usr/X11R6/lib  -L../libsx/src -lsx -lXaw95 -lXmu -lXt -lX11 -lm  
/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `siglongjmp'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `__sigjmp_save'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `chmod'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `accept'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `umask'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `rand'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `signal'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `listen'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `srand'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw95.so: undefined reference to `__errno_location'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `link'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `mkdir'
make: *** [visu] Error 1
make: Target `all' not remade because of errors.

Compilation exited abnormally with code 2 at Fri Jun 13 08:03:16
--

What did I miss? I found no hint in the info files. Must I link with a
supplementary lib? With gcc the program visu compiles and works fine.

  thanks for help
 JT Lapreste'


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Re: [Off-Topic] Making FLI's

[Philippe Troin]

On Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:25:31 MDT "Marcelo E. Magallon" 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Hi, sorry for posting this here, but since xanim supports FLI's, I hope
> somebody here knows the answer. Does anybody here know if there's a Linux
> program for making FLI's? In the Povray homepage I found a reference to a
> DOS program (DTA was it?) but I'd like to stick to Linux.

I have a ppm2fli program.
Can't remember where I got it.
I'll make a debian package of it.

Phil.



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Help NT4.0 -> Linux Printing fails

[Oz Dror]

I have linux (debian 1.2.8 Kernel 2.0.30) machine as server (192.168.0.1)
and NT4.0 workstation as client (192.168.0.3)

I setup the NT machine to print using lpd (port 192.168.0.1:lp4)
lp4 is my linux printer (HP660c). The NT machine uses its own driver
for the printer.  

When I tried to print a test page. On the NT machine queue I see
the message printing (but nothing happens on the Linux side)

when I type netstat -t
I get
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address State  
tcp5  0 Linux.Domain:printerNT.Domain:printer   TIME_WAIT

Clearly the NT machine and linux communicate about the printing, but nothing
happens.

When I run WIndows95 on the NT machine I can uses the printer.

I have a different NT machine 192.168.0.2 that can print into the the Linux
machine with the same setup as the the first machine.

The first NT machine is a desktop using the Ethernet card DECchip 21041

the second NT machine is a laptop using NE2000 compatible PCMCIA card.

Any help will be appreciated in debugging this problem.

Thanks

Oz Dror
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Re: Easy way to switch from RedHat to Debian?

[Bruce Perens]

From: Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I REALLY don't what to start a flame war : ) but I'd like to know why
> people would want to do this [switch from Red Hat to Debian] I've looked
> briefly at Debian and it seems quite attractive, but I'm using RH at the
> moment and it works pretty well, so if it ain't broke...

It's not really Debian's policy to say bad things about Red Hat. The
people there are nice, they throw good parties, their system isn't bad.

Bruce Perens
Debian Project Leader
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xlockmore and shadow?

[Hanno Wagner]

Hi,
I have now upgraded my normal passwd-system to shadow. It
works perfectly - but xlock won't run anymore. It tells me
following:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ xlock
xlock: it looks like you have shadow passwording.
Contact your administrator.


Well... I asked the package maintainer (it is the last
version of xlockmore I am using Version 4.02-1). And I
verified the group and s+bit of xlock:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -l `which xlock`
-rwxr-sr-x   1 root shadow 462824 Apr 25 01:53 /usr/bin/X11/xlock


So, this seems to be fine.
But why doesn't accept it the shadow-passwds?

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Re: Locales Problem?

[Victor Torrico]

W Paul Mills wrote:
> 
> This all seems to have something to do with libc and a wg15-locale
> package. Do you have anything in /usr/share/locale. Most seem to
> start having this problem if they install StarOffice which has you
> set LANG=us. It really does not seem to hurt anything other than
> all the trash it puts on your screen when perl programs are run.
> As more programs depend on these features, it may become more of an
> issue.
> 

Bingo!  You hit the nail on the head.  It all seems to have started
since I installed StarOffice.


***

Here is what is in /usr/share/locale:

vtorrico# cd /usr/share/locale
locale# dir
da_DK en_GB fr_CA kl_GL pl_PL
deen_IE fr_CH kopt
de_AT en_US fr_FR locale.alias  pt_PT
de_BE esfr_LU lt_LT ro_RO
de_CH es_ES gr_GR lv_LV ru_RU
de_DE et_EE hr_HR nlsl_SI
de_LU fi_FI hu_HU nl_BE sv
enfo_FO is_IS nl_NL sv_FI
en_CA frit_IT no_NO sv_SE
en_DK fr_BE iw_IL pl
locale# 

***

Here is what is in /usr/lib/X11/locale:

vtorrico# cd /usr/lib/X11/locale
locale# dir
C iso8859-3 iso8859-8 koth_TH.TACTIS
compose.dir   iso8859-4 iso8859-9 koi8-rzh
en_US.utf iso8859-5 jalocale.alias  zh_TW
iso8859-1 iso8859-6 ja.JISlocale.dir
iso8859-2 iso8859-7 ja.SJIS   tbl_data
locale#

***

Thanks so much to the many guys and dolls who replyed to this thread. 
Your help is much appreciated.

Victor


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Re: SMAIL/smarthost/BIND error

[Al Youngwerth]

Just something to try...

post.metrolink.net does not have a dns MX record. I don't think smail
should give you an error if your smarthost doesn't have an MX record but it
might. Try changing you smarthost to metrolink.net (it resolves to
post.metrolink.net) and see if it helps.

I assume your name resolution is working just fine (you can ping
post.metrolink.net from your linux box. If not, get that working first
(start at your /etc/resolv.conf).

Hope this helps,

Al Youngwerth
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>  I posted this on June 10, but have not had any response, so I'm 
> trying again.  My ISP says "we do not offer support for linux mail". 
> I hope someone can give me a clue.  I'm getting tired of going into 
> Windoze to send mail.
> 
>  I am running debian 1.2.4, and use smail ver 3.2-3. I have
> configured it to use my ISP as a smart host.  /etc/smail/routers
> includes the following:
> 
> smart_host:
> driver=smarthost, transport=smtp;
> path=post.metrolink.net
> 
>  This has worked fine for many months until May 31.  Since then
> when I try to run the queue I get an error message similar to the
> following:
> 
> bob:vc-1:bob>mailq
> m0wbSvY-000ZEXC From: bob  (in /var/spool/smail/input)
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:33:44 -0400 (EDT)
> Args: -t -oem -f bob -oMP sendmail
> bob:vc-1:bob>runq -v
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: autometric.com matched by smart_host:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: mc.seflin.net matched by smart_host:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: metrolink.net matched by smart_host:
> routed [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
> post.metrolink.net
> routed [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
> post.metrolink.net
> routed [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
> post.metrolink.net
> transport smtp uses driver tcpsmtp
> transport smtp: BIND server failure: : Connection timed out
> write_log:Deferred TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:smart_host
> TRANSPORT:smtp ERROR:(ERR164) transport smtp: BIND server failure: :
> Connection timed out
> write_log:Deferred TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:smart_host
> TRANSPORT:smtp ERROR:(ERR164) transport smtp: BIND server failure: :
> Connection timed out
> write_log:Deferred TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:smart_host
TRANSPORT:smtp
> ERROR:(ERR164) transport smtp: BIND server failure: : Connection timed
out
> 
>  I now have to go into DOS/WIN3.1 and use Eudora to send mail, which
> is unacceptable.
> 
>  Does anyone have any suggestions as to a possible cure for this?
> 
>  I have asked my ISP if he has made any recent changes, but don't
> expect much satisfaction there.
> 
> Bob



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Re: xemacs and tex

[Anthony Fok]

Hello!  :)

On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I recently updated to 1.3 latex was replaced by Tetex distribution and
> xemacs became 19.14.1. 
> I have the problem that the tex-modes.el lisp file is now aged of years,
> and do not recognize the latex2e format and display no menu on the menu
> bar.
> Do you know if there is an adaptation of the equivalemt emacs file (which
> do not work with xemacs) that is more recent? Or must I try to adapt it ?

Is XEmacs 19.15 in Debian 1.3?  I am using the unstable distribution and
it comes with XEmacs 19.15.  AUC TeX is included with 19.15, but I am not
sure about 19.14.  Try the command

locate auctex

and see if you find the AUCTeX files with XEmacs.  I found a bunch of them
in '/usr/lib/xemacs-19.15/lisp/auctex'.

However, I had the same problem as yours when I first used XEmacs.  For
some reason, it loaded the old TeX mode by default.  I had to add the
'50tex-site.el' file in '/etc/xemacs/site-start-19.d' to make it load AUC
TeX by default.  Try the following:

  # cd /usr/xemacs/site-start-19.d
  # ln -s /usr/lib/xemacs-19.15/lisp/auctex/tex-site.el 50tex-site.el

(Of course, in your case, you would probably use
'/usr/lib/xemacs-19.14/lisp/auctex/tex-site.el' instead.  :)

Since I know little about Emacs, it took me a while to figure out how to
do it.  It wasn't until I found the file
'/etc/emacs/site-start.d/50tex-site.el' from GNU Emacs that I found out I
could do the same with XEmacs to make AUC TeX work in XEmacs also.  :)

> If you have any hint on what to do or who to ask I would be very pleased.
>   thank you and sorry for disturbing with perhaps trivial questions.

Hey, this is not a trivial question!  :)  I had that very same problem and
it took me quite a while to figure out what was going on.  :)  So don't
apologize, because this is what this list is all about!  :)

Anthony

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Re: hostid

[jghasler]

Joey Hess writes:
> Accordint to the man page, it's based on IP address.

And this is supposed to make it unique?  Somehow I suspect that mine is not
the only machine with IP 192.168.1.

/home/john hostid -v
Hostid is 8323328 (0x7f0100)

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Re: hostid

[Karl M. Hegbloom]

What package is it in?

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Re: netbase, update-rc.d

[joost witteveen]

> I tried installing netbase 2.13-1, and recieved this error:
> 
> Setting up netbase (2.13-1) ...
> /usr/sbin/update-rc.d: line 109: syntax error: unexpected end of file
> dpkg: error processing netbase (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  netbase
> 
> I tried re-installing update 1.2-1, thinking it might help.  It didn't.
> What should I do?

update-rc.d isn't from update, it's from dpkg:

$ dpkg -S /usr/sbin/update-rc.d
dpkg: /usr/sbin/update-rc.d

So, could you upgrade your dpkg to the one in bo, 1.4.0.8? That will
_probably_ fix it.


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Re: read news on/off line

[Alexandre Lebrun]

On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Timothy Phan wrote:

...
>   Secondly,  would some one please point me to the doc./pointers to
>   setup the Debian system to download the news onto my local drive
>   for later use?  Thanks!
> 
Try leafnode, there is a debian package in section news.
Alexandre

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Re: hostid

[Oliver Elphick]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, writes:
  >Joey Hess writes:
  >> Accordint to the man page, it's based on IP address.
  >
  >And this is supposed to make it unique?  Somehow I suspect that mine is not
  >the only machine with IP 192.168.1.
 
RTFM?! The man page says that hostid is _normally_ set to resemble the 
host's internet address; it can be set by the superuser to any value.

>From the point of view of a vendor wanting to secure a software licence,
it's not much good!
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Re: Mail broken :(

[Joey Hess]

Tim O'Brien:
> My email system on my Linux box at work has broken. It just stopped a few
> days ago. I've also noticed several runq zombies.
> 
> When ps is used repeatedly, I can see that there's one copy of runq going
> with the same process number, and another that keeps restarting and
> incrementing the process number. The modem lights look like the mail is
> being sent, and I get no bounce messages of any sort. 
> 
> Any ideas what I might have screwed up this time? 

I used sendmail for about 10 months, until I switched to qmail at the
beginning of this month. My mail server is a moderatly busy one, and I always 
had from 2 to 5 runq zombies. Sometimes more. I never did get an explination 
of why they were zombieing, but it didn't seem to cause any real difficulties 
with my mail server.

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Re: text mode 3270 emulator?

[Jeff Noxon]

> > There's 'tn3270', but it's not packaged for Debian. I looked at it a while
> > ago but it required the NetKit source to compile...
> [...]
> 
> I have it working now... There is the tn3270-510.tar.gz package
> at sunsite with an a.out tn3270 binary that works when 
> termcap-compat is installed.

I managed to get it compiled with libc5/ncurses using Debian 1.3.  It
is nothing more than a gross hack, but it works for me.  If anyone would
like the binary or hacked sources, please let me know.  I'll consider
packaging it if there is enough demand.

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Re: hostid

[Joey Hess]

Tim Sailer:
> I'll have to look at the source to see what it actually does. I have yet
> to see a dupe.

Accordint to the man page, it's based on IP address.

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ack, never mind

[J. LILLIBRIDGE]

Sorry, I figured it out.  Just needed to upgrade dpkg.

joe


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xemacs and tex

[Norris Preyer]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 > Hello,
 > 
 > I was using xemacs in conjunction with Latex in debian 1.2.
 > 
 > I recently updated to 1.3 latex was replaced by Tetex distribution and xemacs
 > became 19.14.1.
 > 
 > I have the problem that the tex-modes.el lisp file is now aged of years,
 > and do not recognize the latex2e format and display no menu on the menu bar. 
 > 
 > Do you know if there is an adaptation of the equivalemt emacs file (which
 > do not work with xemacs) that is more recent? Or must I try to adapt it ?
 > 
 > [snip] 
 > 
 >Jean Thierry Lapreste
 > 
 
Xemacs comes with a pretty recent auctex that recognized latex2e just
fine.  Did you separately install auctex?  Try removing your
tex-init.el and see what happens by default.  I'm running Xemacs
19.15p5 (compiled myself, since the debian package crashes on my
machine), and tex.el starts:

;;; tex.el --- Support for TeX documents.

;; Maintainer: Per Abrahamsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
;; Version: 9.7l
;; Keywords: wp
;; X-URL: http://sunsite.auc.dk/auctex

Hmm, I don't actually have tex-modes.el anywhere on my machine.  I
think you need a more recent auctex.  I can e-mail you more details if
needed.

--Norris

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Unresolved symbols with ibmtr_cs PCMCIA module

[Stephen Zander]

Further in my attempts to setup up a Thinkpad 760CD...

When attempting to load the ibmtr_cs.o mdules under the standard
2.0.30 kernel, I get the folliowing unresolved symbols.

netif_rx_R9117ffb8
dev_alloc_skb_R24e337ab
dev_kfree_skb_R7a61ae71
dev_tint_Rcc72f6b2
unregister_netdev_Re5a9d51a
register_netdev_R70caa700
tr_setup_R787bcf6f
tr_type_trans_Rf1130552

Should I load another module to resolve these or is there
something else I'm missing?


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Re: kernel with apm/pcmcia for 1.3 install

[Stephen Zander]

Niels wrote:
> BootPart:
>   http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gvollant/bootpart.htm
> 
> More instructions:
>   http://ledoux.arbld.unimelb.edu.au/~agoon/windows/dualboot.html
> 
> to save AltaVista the hits :-)

Thanks for the info... NT's boot manager now handles linux

Now I just need to set up ppp so I can do an FTP
install.  Is this documented somewhere??


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Re: why does make-kpkg put vmlinux and vmlinuz in package?

[Joey Hess]

Michael Alan Dorman:
> > The uncompressed one was used to make psdatabase. I don't know if it is
> > still needed.
> 
> The installation process deletes the uncompressed image.
> 
> It would be interesting to see if there was a way one could use the
> compressed image for that, though.

Would it somehow be possible to extract the psdatabase info from the kernel
image while the package was being made, instead of ig the postinst?

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Re: why does make-kpkg put vmlinux and vmlinuz in package?

[Michael Alan Dorman]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes:
> The uncompressed one was used to make psdatabase. I don't know if it is
> still needed.

The installation process deletes the uncompressed image.

It would be interesting to see if there was a way one could use the
compressed image for that, though.

Mike.


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Firewalls

[dgolpira]

Anyone running a debian-based firewall out there?

Does anyone have any experience with the TIS firewall toolkit package
for Debian?  How about setting up firewalling in the kernel?

What are the pros and cons of each method for building a Linux firewall?

Thanks.

Dave
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Re: Easy way to switch from RedHat to Debian?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 13 Jun 1997, Paul Seelig wrote:

> In article <"tW1_d.0.lw2.Vy5ep"@debian>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Michael Shaw") writes:
> > 
> > I'm planning to convert my home systems to Debian Linux from RedHat and was
> > wondering if there was anyone out there who had performed this task before?
> > 
> Christoph Lameter posted a small receipt on how to convert a Redhat
> system without any reboot into a Debian system.  He obviously already
> has aquired some experience doing this! ;-) Search via Deja News for
> his name in comp.os.linux.development.system and/or for the thread
> "Re: rpm vs. dpkg ( + How to upgrade to Debian)". What the heck, i
> just found it and will reproduce the relevant portions of it here:
> 
> 
I REALLY don't what to start a flame war : ) but I'd like to know why
people would want to do this. I've looked briefly at Debian and it seems
quite attractive, but I'm using RH at the moment and it works pretty
well, so if it ain't broke...

I'd be interested to hear comments from people with experience of both
systems.

Anthony
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netbase, update-rc.d

[J. LILLIBRIDGE]

I tried installing netbase 2.13-1, and recieved this error:

Setting up netbase (2.13-1) ...
/usr/sbin/update-rc.d: line 109: syntax error: unexpected end of file
dpkg: error processing netbase (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 netbase

I tried re-installing update 1.2-1, thinking it might help.  It didn't.
What should I do?

thanks,
joe


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Re: xlockmore and shadow?

[Christian Hudon]

On Jun 13, Hanno Wagner wrote
> Hi,
> I have now upgraded my normal passwd-system to shadow. It
> works perfectly - but xlock won't run anymore. It tells me
> following:
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ xlock
> xlock: it looks like you have shadow passwording.
> Contact your administrator.
> 
> 
> Well... I asked the package maintainer (it is the last
> version of xlockmore I am using Version 4.02-1). And I
> verified the group and s+bit of xlock:
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -l `which xlock`
> -rwxr-sr-x   1 root shadow 462824 Apr 25 01:53 /usr/bin/X11/xlock
> 

Hmm. That's kinda odd.

Maybe check the permissions on your /etc/shadow file. It should be:

-rw-r-   1 root shadow897 Apr  6 03:40 /etc/shadow

  Christian


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Re: why does make-kpkg put vmlinux and vmlinuz in package?

[Bruce Perens]

The uncompressed one was used to make psdatabase. I don't know if it is
still needed.

Bruce
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Re: checkergcc

[Alex Yukhimets]

> I have installed checker on debian 1.3 and it works fine, but if I try to
> link files with X librairies I encounter at my program compilation the
> following kind of messages :
> 
> 
> 
> cd /home/jtl/esa/model2/
> make -fmkvisu -k 
> checkergcc -Wall -g -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../libsx/src -c 
> RdStr.c -o RdStr.o
> checkergcc -Wall -g -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../libsx/src -c 
> loc.c -o loc.o
> checkergcc -Wall -g -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../libsx/src -c 
> camera.c -o camera.o
> checkergcc   visu.o intervisu.o RdStr.o point3d.o matrix.o binmoddrw.o 
> names.o binarymod.o hidden.o loc.o camera.o perm.o  -o visu 
> -L/usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw95 -L/usr/X11R6/lib  -L../libsx/src -lsx -lXaw95 -lXmu 
> -lXt -lX11 -lm  

I would add -lICE -lSM after -lX11

Alex Y.

> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `siglongjmp'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `__sigjmp_save'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `chmod'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `accept'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `umask'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `rand'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `signal'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `listen'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `srand'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw95.so: undefined reference to `__errno_location'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `link'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `mkdir'
> make: *** [visu] Error 1
> make: Target `all' not remade because of errors.
> 
> Compilation exited abnormally with code 2 at Fri Jun 13 08:03:16
> --
> 
> What did I miss? I found no hint in the info files. Must I link with a
> supplementary lib? With gcc the program visu compiles and works fine.
> 
>   thanks for help
>  JT Lapreste'

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checkergcc

[lapreste]

(sorry to duplicate, I had forgotten to type in the subject.)

Thank you for the help, now with the two libs the compilation works fine, but
at the execution I have :

visu: can't resolve symbol '_IO_stdout_'
visu: can't resolve symbol '_IO_stdin_'

Aren't standard? Do you see what is missing now ?

   JT Lapreste'

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> I have installed checker on debian 1.3 and it works fine, but if I try to
> link files with X librairies I encounter at my program compilation the
> following kind of messages :
> 
> 
> 
> cd /home/jtl/esa/model2/
> make -fmkvisu -k 
> checkergcc -Wall -g -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../libsx/src -c 
> RdStr.c -o RdStr.o
> checkergcc -Wall -g -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../libsx/src -c 
> loc.c -o loc.o
> checkergcc -Wall -g -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../libsx/src -c 
> camera.c -o camera.o
> checkergcc   visu.o intervisu.o RdStr.o point3d.o matrix.o binmoddrw.o 
> names.o binarymod.o hidden.o loc.o camera.o perm.o  -o visu 
> -L/usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw95 -L/usr/X11R6/lib  -L../libsx/src -lsx -lXaw95 -lXmu 
> -lXt -lX11 -lm  


>I would add -lICE -lSM after -lX11

>Alex Y.

>



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Re: Running boa using inetd

[Jean Pierre LeJacq]

On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Luis Francisco Gonzalez wrote:

> So the question is, how do I get this to work. Boa complains that there is
> some other process listening to the port and exits with an error. 
> Alternatively
> is there some other way of having a small server that can only be accesed
> from the local host or may be a small selected list of hosts?

This is easily handled with the WN server.  There is a
daemon, wn, that works with inetd and a stand-alone daemon,
swn.  Access can be restricted to specific hosts on a
directory by directory basis.

I recently released the latest wn package, wn-1.17.11_1, to
the unstable distribution.

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Re: hostid

[Tim Sailer]

In your email to me, Jens B. Jorgensen, you wrote:
> > 
> > llug:~> uname -a
> > Linux llug 2.0.30 #2 Sun May 18 00:47:52 EDT 1997 i586 unknown
> > llug:~> hostid
> > 0xc782f032
> > llug:~>
> > 
> 
> So there is a debian command for it! Well, it doesn't come from hardware
> in linux and isn't guaranteed to be unique, which is what this number
> was intended to do. I believe DCE needs some number like this.

I'll have to look at the source to see what it actually does. I have yet
to see a dupe.

Tim

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Is there a Debian 1.3 "Unleashed" available?

[Michael Shaw]

Anyone know if there is a "Linux Unleashed" book/CD available for Debian 1.3?  
I'm trying to find a place to get a CD at a decent price, but so far the really 
cheap places(CheapBytes, Tri-Linux) seem to have problems with their cut.  I
am now considering PHT or InfoMagic, but if I can get a book AND CD for about 
the same price or a little more then I'll do that.

Anyone got recommendations?

TIA,


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why does make-kpkg put vmlinux and vmlinuz in package?

[Joey Hess]

If I use "make-kpkg -r=box.1.0 kernel_image" to make a custom kernel
package, I see it includes:

-rw-r--r-- root/root327834 1997-06-13 17:15 boot/vmlinuz-2.0.30
-rw-r--r-- root/root816421 1997-06-13 17:15 boot/vmlinux-2.0.30

Why include both files? Is there any way to turn that off and just include
the vmlinuz file? I'm operating on a low-disk-space system, and I need to
save every MB I can.

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Re: frequently paused modem connection

[Shaya Potter]

On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, Eugene Sevinian wrote:

> I use USR14400 modem and it works fine with mgetty. The only bad thing
> which I noticed so far are the short pauses (~1-5 sec) during the
> sessions. Unfortunatly, to say the least of it, the quality of telephone
> lines is not very good. However I would like to know if there are some 
> other ("soft") reasons  which can explain such a behavior.
> 
> Many thanks in advance for any idea.

I remember reading a month or 2 ago, that USR was having this kind of
problem with their modems.  If I remember correctly, their is a simple
switch that you send to the modem that should fix it.  Check their home
page, or contact their techincal support, for more info.

HTH,

Shaya


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Re: Master.debian.org

[Bruce Perens]

Yes, master is down at the moment. Mike will bring it back as soon as he can.

Bruce
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Re: tar boo-boo...

[Jim Pick]

> Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Since it only wrote out a few files, does anyone know if there is a
> > way to retrieve the files off the tape that weren't overwritten?
> 
> Hmm.  Given my previous experiences with tape drives, you may be out
> of luck.  When you clobbered the old file, you wrote an end of tape
> marker that the drive will probably refuse to move past (which is
> normally an excellent behavior).
> 
> The only thing I can think is to try using "mt seek" to bytes past the
> end of the tape, but I'd be surprised if the drive lets you.

It wouldn't let me - I found an easier solution.  I had previously used
the system where the old disk was going (a Win95 only system, for now) 
with the "nfsroot" package, so I just used that boot floppy, and I was 
able to mount the partition, and copy all of the files via NFS.

Thanks for the help, guys...  :-)

Cheers,

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Re: Help with in.pop3d

[Stephane Bortzmeyer]

On Thursday 12 June 97, at 22 h 40, the keyboard of "Benjamin T. White" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> in.pop3d seems to be running as root when it is invoked by inetd, so what 
> gives?  The mail boxes exist, the connnection is made but no mail is 
> delivered

Anyway, I seriously suggest you use qpopper instead. There is at least 
one very good reason: last time I checked, in.pop3d didn't log the 
erroneous passwords, so a cracker could use it to try typical passwords 
(even if you have shadow).

Package: qpopper
Status: install ok installed
Priority: extra
Section: mail
Installed-Size: 110
Maintainer: Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 2.2-4
Depends: libc5 (>= 5.4.0-0), libgdbm1
Description: Enhanced Post Office Protocol server (POP3).
 This is The Qualcomm enhanced version of the Post Office Protocol Daemon
 (POP3 daemon), based on the latest BSD version. The QualComm popper has
 some extensions to the normal pop3 daemon, such as UIDL and bulletin 
support.


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BIG NetScape Bug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 (fwd)

[George Bonser]

Better take this SERIOUSLY folks, it is a VERY big bug ... major security
hole.  It allows a server to see EVERYTHING on the client filesystem.


George Bonser
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:06:45 -0500
From: Francisco Benavides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BIG NetScape Bug1

Hi, 

A HUGE flaw was uncovered in the new NetScape, for more details:

http://cnnfn.com/digitaljam/9706/12/netscape_pkg/

Bye/Francisco :)


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Re: debian-user-digest problems

[George Bonser]

> (So can everyone stop using rows of dashes!! :-)
> 
> -- David Pfitzner 
> 
> 

ANy idea HOW MANY dashes it takes in a row to split the message for your
mail reader?  Many programs put two or three to designate the .sig


George Bonser
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Re: debian-user-digest problems

[David Pfitzner]

> ANy idea HOW MANY dashes it takes in a row to split the message for your
> mail reader?  Many programs put two or three to designate the .sig

The digest separator is 28 dashes.
Anything over that seems to cause a problem.
It probably has to start at the start of a line, too.


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[Off-Topic] Making FLI's

[Marcelo E. Magallon]

Hi, sorry for posting this here, but since xanim supports FLI's, I hope
somebody here knows the answer. Does anybody here know if there's a Linux
program for making FLI's? In the Povray homepage I found a reference to a
DOS program (DTA was it?) but I'd like to stick to Linux.

TIA, and apologies again,

Marcelo Magallon


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XPilot-package and sound

[Marc Saric]

Hi,

I don´t know if the maintainer of the Xpilot-package is reading this
mailing-list, but if so, he/she might be able to answer my little
question:

After trying to get the sound-thingy running with XPilot, I failes to do
so, and I´m asking myself if there is sound-support at all compiled into
the Debian-version of Xpilot.

Otherwise someone might give me a hint (or are you playing Quake all the
time :-))

Thanks in advance!

-- 

Bye,


Marc Saric

Visit http://www.rat.de/marc_saric



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FWD: Debian Linux prob

[Joey Hess]

Perhaps some other developer is better-suited to deal with this than I, who
don't even have a CD drive. :-)

-Forwarded message from Myopsis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>-

Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 14:07:55 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Myopsis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Debian Linux prob
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey, i hear you're maintaining the Debian distribution of Linux
Well, I just wanted to report to you that when I got a Linux CD (TRI-LINUX)
and tried installing debian (1.2.8), I couldn't get it to find my CDROM
drive, so i just went on to Slackware, which I've been staying with.  I
don't know how common this problem is, but I thought you should know so
that you could have a chance to correct it.  

  Later!!

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Running boa using inetd

[Luis Francisco Gonzalez]

Hi,
following the recent thread about dwww, I decided to try it out. I installed
boa as a web server but was trying as someone suggested in that thread, to
run it through inetd. The idea is that I want to disallow all non-local
connections to the http server. Unfortunately I have deleted those messages
and don't remeber if there contained any details on how to do this. The
mailing list archives do not contain them yet either.

So the question is, how do I get this to work. Boa complains that there is
some other process listening to the port and exits with an error. Alternatively
is there some other way of having a small server that can only be accesed
from the local host or may be a small selected list of hosts?

Thanks in advance,
Luis.
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Re: Locales Problem?

[W Paul Mills]

On Thu, 12 Jun 1997, Victor Torrico wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > On 12 Jun, Victor Torrico wrote:
> > >
> > > I tried putting LANG="en_US" in my .bash_profile and still get LANG=us
> > > when I do an env. As you can tell I'm a unix/linux novice.  What am I
> > > overlooking?
> > 
> > For a quick test (I assume you use bash), do
> > 
> > export LANG=en_US
> > 
> > You can then check if it works by
> > 
> > perl -v
> > 
> > Please do tell me if setting LANG solved your perl problems.
> > 
> > Ciao,
> > Martin
> 
> I did as you requested and still get the perl problem.  See the
> following for my results:
> 
> 
> 
> vtorrico# export LANG=en_US
> vtorrico# perl -v
> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
> LC_ALL = (unset),
> LANG = "en_US"
> are supported and installed on your system.
> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
> 
> This is perl, version 5.004
> 
> Copyright 1987-1997, Larry Wall
> 
> Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License
> or the
> GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5.0 source
> kit.
> 
> vtorrico#
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Victor
> 
> 
> PS:  Perhaps it is due to using the latest version of Perl?  Is it
> possible that the LC_ALL and LANG are compiled incorrectly into the
> kernel?  I am using a recently compiled kernel 2.0.30.  I'm getting in
> over my depth of knowledge here.


This all seems to have something to do with libc and a wg15-locale
package. Do you have anything in /usr/share/locale. Most seem to 
start having this problem if they install StarOffice which has you
set LANG=us. It really does not seem to hurt anything other than
all the trash it puts on your screen when perl programs are run.
As more programs depend on these features, it may become more of an
issue.

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Re: Easy way to switch from RedHat to Debian?

[Shaya Potter]

There is no real easy way.  However, if you have enough disk space, you
can make a new partition, or use an old one, install debian on it, and
migrate all your config date to the debian side.  YOu can then wipe
redhat, and install all the packages you need from debian.

Shaya

On 12 Jun 1997, Michael Shaw wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm planning to convert my home systems to Debian Linux from RedHat and was
> wondering if there was anyone out there who had performed this task before?
> 
> I'm currently running RedHat 4.0 and want to install Debian 1.3.  I'm
> wondering if there is a better way to do this cutover then nuking the root
> disk and starting over from scratch?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Mike
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Re: NIS is broken in Debian 1.3!

[Jim Pick]

> Both the server and the client machines have libc5 version 5.4.23-4 and 
> libc6 version 2.0.3-4. Let me give you an example of what's happening on
> the client machine:
> 
> ~> ypmatch rover passwd
> rover:V/8DB9sycYRnM:1017:1017::/home/rover:/bin/bash
> ~> su rover
> su: user rover does not exist  
> 
> However, the /etc/passwd file in the client machine ends with the line
> +:: Shouldn't this work?
> 
> So, the NIS binding process is ok, but all system utilities (like su,
> ls, passwd, etc.) in the client machine are unable to see the NIS maps.


I just discovered I'm having the same problem here.

'su' doesn't work, but 'login' does.

Hmm.  This is probably a bug in su (or libc).

Did you resolve the problem?

Cheers,

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can qmail be run from inetd

[Joey Hess]

I have a small system that has qmail installed, and doesn't get much mail,
so it's really a waste of memory to have the various qmail daemons running
all the time. Is there a way to set up qmail so it gets run from inetd?

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Re: 3c905 problems with 1.3 (and 1.2.5)

[Tim Bell]

Rick Macdonald wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Tim Bell wrote:
> 
> > So, I figured I'd go back to the 1.2.5 setup which had worked. This I
> > did, and it worked -- until I rebooted.
> 
> I had similar problems once, but nothing to do with a network card.
> It turned out that lilo.conf wasn't pointed at the partition that I
> thought it was, so when I ran lilo and rebooted I wasn't getting the
> kernel that I thought I was.
> 
> Others have done the same thing. Can you verify you're booting the
> intended kernel? You didn't say anything about how you were booting.

I'm booting with lilo (whichever version comes with 1.2.5 or 1.3) and
I have verified I'm booting what I think I'm booting. I've been fiddling
with different kernel configurations, so I've been checking kernel
compile dates and lilo configurations regularly.

The funny thing is that it will work with a kernel once, but never again.

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Re: checkergcc

[Ciccio]

> I have installed checker on debian 1.3 and it works fine, but if I try to
> link files with X librairies I encounter at my program compilation the
> following kind of messages :
> 
> 
> 
> cd /home/jtl/esa/model2/
> make -fmkvisu -k 
> checkergcc -Wall -g -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../libsx/src -c 
> RdStr.c -o RdStr.o
> checkergcc -Wall -g -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../libsx/src -c 
> loc.c -o loc.o
> checkergcc -Wall -g -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../libsx/src -c 
> camera.c -o camera.o
> checkergcc   visu.o intervisu.o RdStr.o point3d.o matrix.o binmoddrw.o 
> names.o binarymod.o hidden.o loc.o camera.o perm.o  -o visu 
> -L/usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw95 -L/usr/X11R6/lib  -L../libsx/src -lsx -lXaw95 -lXmu 
> -lXt -lX11 -lm  
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `siglongjmp'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `__sigjmp_save'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `chmod'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `accept'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `umask'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `rand'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `signal'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `listen'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `srand'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw95.so: undefined reference to `__errno_location'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `link'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to `mkdir'
> make: *** [visu] Error 1
> make: Target `all' not remade because of errors.
> 
> Compilation exited abnormally with code 2 at Fri Jun 13 08:03:16
> --
> 
> What did I miss? I found no hint in the info files. Must I link with a
> supplementary lib? With gcc the program visu compiles and works fine.
> 
>   thanks for help
>  JT Lapreste'
> 
You didn't miss anything. These messages go away, if you link explicitly
against libc. But this doesn't help. Maybe it would help to link also with
-g compiled X libs, but this is huge. The author told me he'll see what
he can do for the next release. BTW. Don't link in more things. I did and
got worse messages about inexisting memory faults.

HTH

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Re: checkergcc

[joost witteveen]

> (sorry to duplicate, I had forgotten to type in the subject.)
> 
> Thank you for the help, now with the two libs the compilation works fine, but
> at the execution I have :
> 
> visu: can't resolve symbol '_IO_stdout_'
> visu: can't resolve symbol '_IO_stdin_'
> 
> Aren't standard? Do you see what is missing now ?

(I don't *think* I have the answer, but:)

These errors also appear when running binaries that are statically
linked against an old libc5 with recent X libraries. I _suspect_ the
checker libs were compiled whith old libc stuff installed. However
it should be easy to check this: upgrade to libc6, and install the
libc6 checker.

I can sortof understand you if you don't really want to do the above.
If you still want to try it out, I can get you an account on my libc6
machine, and you can test it out anyway.

The other test for my theory is: download the checker source (from bo),
and compile it yourself. Then install the pacakge you just created.
 


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Re: Rescue disk hurts my ethernet card

[Jason Gunthorpe]

On Thu, 12 Jun 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

> The EEPROM getting scrambled is a result of drivers probing for devices
> on the bus that don't happen to be there, and hitting the network card
> instead. This happens more with the rescue disk than with a custom kernel
> because the rescue disk is built for every scsi and ethernet card we could
> fit in the kernel. If you can tell me about the I/O ports of your network
> card we can give you magic words to put on the boot command line for that
> device that reserve its ports and prevent other drivers from touching them.

Fraid the reserve boot command did not help this problem, it's EEProm IO
ports may not have been in the region I had the card set to or one of the
drivers may be ill behaved. I've long since gotten rid of it, now have a
RealTek PCI NE2k. 

I heard of two fried network cards, one was mine and one was a friends,
both D-Link DE-250's and both fried by booting the rescue disk. My other
De-250 just got disabled during linux's boot, had a bit of a time figuring
out why Linux didn't want to use my card till I figured it out.

Jason


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Re: How can I restore Dselect's needed Perl modules?

[Kendall P. Bullen]

On 13 Jun 1997, Terrence Brannon wrote:

> Somehow, the Perl modules that dselect needs got munged.

Yah, whassup wit' dat?  I had problems with dselect's 'install'
option, and with chat2.pl.  I copied a missing module from elsewhere,
re-ran dselect, tried to install something new, and ran into another
missing one module.  By adding in missing modules, I could've gotten
things working eventually, but it was getting ridiculous.  ;)

I suspect I somehow messed up something, so I reinstalled perl-base
and perl from 1.2.15.  Things *seem* okay now.

Kendall



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Re: routing question

[Tim Sailer]

In your email to me, Pete Templin, you wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
>   I'm in the process of setting up a 486 sx/25 as a dialup router
> (with one modem and one network card).  Unfortunately, the ISP can't seem
> to get the external routing right yet, so my testing is being held up.
> 
>   The question is this: I've compiled a lean, mean kernel with the
> appropriate IP forwarding enabled (no firewalling or masquerading is being
> used).  Will it "route" by default, or do I need to add a specific package
> or other external software?
> 
>   Here's the output of "route":
> 
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway  Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
> cs10.mil.ptd.ne *255.255.255.255 UH0  02 ppp0
> cs10.mil.ptd.ne *255.255.255.255 UH1  00 sl0
> 204.186.230.0   *255.255.255.0   U 0  0   35 eth0
> 127.0.0.0   *255.0.0.0   U 0  0   18 lo
> default *0.0.0.0 U 0  0   87 ppp0
> default *0.0.0.0 U 1  0   15 sl0
> 
> The modem is 204.186.27.145 (cs10-01.mil.ptd.net).  Our IP addresses (not
> yet completely routed, but will be routed through the modem) are:
> 204.186.230.1, 204.186.230.2, 204.186.230.3 .  The first address is given
> to the network card in the Linux dialup router, and the second address is
> assigned to an NT server on the network, so once the external router to
> the ISP recognizes the route, pinging 204.186.230.2 is a good test.

I take it that the sl0 is a dialup connection? You have to add a static
route (maybe) and proxyarp it (arp -s). The rest should be OK. The dialups
are the real pains since they have no MAC address to arp to.

Tim

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routing question

[Pete Templin]

Hi there,

I'm in the process of setting up a 486 sx/25 as a dialup router
(with one modem and one network card).  Unfortunately, the ISP can't seem
to get the external routing right yet, so my testing is being held up.

The question is this: I've compiled a lean, mean kernel with the
appropriate IP forwarding enabled (no firewalling or masquerading is being
used).  Will it "route" by default, or do I need to add a specific package
or other external software?

Here's the output of "route":

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway  Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
cs10.mil.ptd.ne *255.255.255.255 UH0  02 ppp0
cs10.mil.ptd.ne *255.255.255.255 UH1  00 sl0
204.186.230.0   *255.255.255.0   U 0  0   35 eth0
127.0.0.0   *255.0.0.0   U 0  0   18 lo
default *0.0.0.0 U 0  0   87 ppp0
default *0.0.0.0 U 1  0   15 sl0

The modem is 204.186.27.145 (cs10-01.mil.ptd.net).  Our IP addresses (not
yet completely routed, but will be routed through the modem) are:
204.186.230.1, 204.186.230.2, 204.186.230.3 .  The first address is given
to the network card in the Linux dialup router, and the second address is
assigned to an NT server on the network, so once the external router to
the ISP recognizes the route, pinging 204.186.230.2 is a good test.

_Any_ advice would certainly be helpful!

Pete

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Re: parallel port zip drive?

[gvl]

  Dave campbell's page is gone.  I've sent mail to one of the other 
developers asking how to get the latest driver.

On 10 Jun 97,  Albatross wrote regarding:
__ Re: parallel port zip drive? __

> Hi,
> 
> >> Could anyone point me to information about using an Iomega parallel port
> >(Not
> >> SCSI) zip drive? Is it possible in Linux?
> 
> Pay attention the driver enclosed with kernel 2.0.xx it rather slow, it
> doesn't use all the features of the zip. Look at:
> http://www.cage.curtin.edu.au/~campbell/ for more info.
> 
> Best regards.
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Re: Is there a Debian 1.3 "Unleashed" available?

[Chad D. Zimmerman]

I have yet to see any books on the market that do more than mention
Debian.  That is why I am working on the Debian Book Project.  I am still
in the begining stages now but I am hoping early next year .. or arround
the Debian 2.0 release to have the book published.

I have had offers from at least 4 peole as well that want to convert it
into other languages.  (5 total right now)

You can get more on the DBP at http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/Debian/

Chad



On 13 Jun 1997, Michael Shaw wrote:

> Anyone know if there is a "Linux Unleashed" book/CD available for Debian 1.3? 
>  
> I'm trying to find a place to get a CD at a decent price, but so far the 
> really 
> cheap places(CheapBytes, Tri-Linux) seem to have problems with their cut.  I
> am now considering PHT or InfoMagic, but if I can get a book AND CD for about 
> the same price or a little more then I'll do that.
> 
> Anyone got recommendations?
> 
> TIA,
> 
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Help configuring rlogin

[Scott Smith]

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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 10:06:36 -0600 (MDT)
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Subject: Help configuring rlogind

I am trying to remote login between two linux boxes - but I don't think
that the server is set up properly (there is no rlogind in the services
file).  How do I go about configuring the server so that I can rlogin from
a remote host.  Scott :-}



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Re: xlockmore and shadow?

[Hanno Wagner]

Hi,

On Jun 13, Christian Hudon wrote

> Maybe check the permissions on your /etc/shadow file. It should be:
> 
> -rw-r-   1 root shadow897 Apr  6 03:40 /etc/shadow

Well... mine was only readable for root and group was root,
so...

But now it works - thanks!

Ciao, Hanno
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