Netscape install was Re: memory usage and Netscape

[AJT60]

While we are on the topic, I have had problems using the debian install
package to install Netscape 4.05. I copy the .tar.gz file (somethinging
like netscape-405-unknown-linux20-export.tar.gz, IIRC), rename it by
deleting the "export" word (so the install package doesn't complain) and
do a 

dpkg -i netsca~2.deb 

(my debian CD was cut from a DOS/win3.11 system. So shoot me.)

and then I get an error message something like

illegal seek: ns-install. 

plus the usual unable to install package messages. 
It's not as if ns-install isn't there, either, because I untarred and
gunziped it by hand and used the self-same script to install it,
heretically not using the .deb package. Is there something that's eluding
me? 

Andrew Tarr

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zmore & Latex

[Dennis Dixon]

I am still having trouble with basic text commands.  Doesn't seem like it
should be that hard.

The following command, for instance:

   zmore Xserver.1x.gz 

gives me text with control characters in it.  I'm fairly sure I'm not using
the right procedure to view these files.

Also, someone suggested using 'zless', but when I run this command I get a
'/usr/bin/zless: less: command not found' error.


In regards to a file that I downloaded (xxx.tar.gz), which was supposed to
be a latex archive file, as mentioned in an earlier post, I unzipped it with: 
  'tar zxvf filename.tar.gz'

Which gave me numerous xx.tex files.  I finally deduced that I can only view
the .tex files that begin with '/begin/document' or I'll get an 'uncontolled
character sequence error' or something like that.  

I then ran:

  latex guide.tex  (Which has the correct starting text in it)

and got the error message:

  'Can't find file linuxdoc.sty'

Thinking I needed the library 'tetex-extra_0.4pl6-4.deb' I installed this,
which didn't solve the problem.  

Reading simple text files shouldn't be this hard.  

Thanks for any help someone might have.
Dennis Dixon
P.O. Box 1896 
Fort Bragg, CA  95437

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Running FreeBuilder.jar

[Dennis Dixon]

I have already posted the following e-mail on the FreeBuilder and the
Java-Linux mailing lists.  I have reposted it here just in case someone on
this list might know the answer.

**

I'm a relatively new Debian Linux user (version 1.3) and have recently
succesfully installed jdk1.1.5. I downloaded FreeBuilder.jar and ran the
command:
  
 java FreeBuilder

which gave me the error message:
   
 Can't find class FreeBuilder.

Am I doing something wrong?  I copied 'CardTest.class' and 'CardPanel.class'
into the same directory and ran the command:

java CardTest

which ran fine.  My guess is it has something to do with the .jar ending.

I also have a second question that you might have an answer to.  When I run
'java anything' I get the following message:

 Warning: cannot allocate colormap entry for default background.

Possibly, someone knows how to fix this configuration problem.

Any help you could pass on would be appreciated.  Thanks.
Dennis Dixon
P.O. Box 1896 
Fort Bragg, CA  95437

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Solved JDK/Display error

[Dennis Dixon]

Thanks to Paul Reavis and others for your help.  I was getting the following
error message:

*
'appletviewer
/usr/local/jdk1.1.5/demo/awt-1.1/lightweight/OpenlookButtons/example.html'

My error message was:
java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0' as
the value of the DISPLAY variable.
*

I was trying to run the appletviewer outside Xwindows.  Inside Xwindows
there was no "display error" message.  Pretty silly actually.

I did notice, while trying to solve this problem that there wasn't a
'/etc/X0.hosts' file.  I guess this is ok.  Xwindows somehow solves the
'xwindow access permission' configuration without this file.

To Paul Reavis: I plan to upgrade to Debian 2.0 eventually. Being new to
Linux, however, I thought it best to get the system I have running first
before trying to make improvements.
 

Thanks again. 

Dennis Dixon
P.O. Box 1896 
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fvwm2/xterm/bash/(child process) problem

[Colin Telmer]

Say I run a process in the background from an xterm. For example,

emacs &

Then, if I kill the xterm by clicking on the X in the right, top corner,
it ALSO kills emacs. On the other hand, if I kill the xterm by typing
`exit' at the command line, the emacs job continues. I want to have the
corner button under fvwm2 act like 'exit' so that I can close the shell
either way. At the moment under fvwm2, the corner button is mapped to
the builtin fvwm2 function "close". 

Is there any way to do this? Any help is gratefully appreciated. 

Cheers, Colin.


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Re: program to switch consoles?

[Michael Beattie]

On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

> 
> Perfect!  That is exactly what I'm looking for.
> 
> Thanks
> -Paul

No Worries :)

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more on the mail problem

[Rick Hawkins]

Upon more fiddling, I find that sendmail is listening on port 25, and
mailq informs me that there have been attempts at communication:

eyry:/home/hawk# mailq
Mail Queue (8 requests)
--Q-ID-- --Size-- -Q-Time- Sender/Recipient
QAA015758 Thu Jun 25 16:43 hawk
   hawk
QAA015816 Thu Jun 25 16:43 hawk
   inc
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
QAA023405 Thu Jun 25 16:53 root
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
QAA015954 Thu Jun 25 16:45 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
QAA023563 Thu Jun 25 16:55 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
QAA02349   12 Thu Jun 25 16:54 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
QAA0230331263 Thu Jun 25 16:50 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  8BITMIME
   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
QAA016280 Thu Jun 25 16:48 hawk
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
eyry:/home/hawk# 

so why aren't they talking?  mail neither goes in nor out, but attempts
in either direction are duly logged.  I just don't get it.


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Re: Weird diald behavior

[lantz moore]

> "Randy" == Randy Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have my "connect" parameter of diald.options pointing to "/usr/bin/pon
> ncia" and the "disconnect" parm pointing at "/usr/bin/poff".  I have
> diald.option's "ip-up" parameter pointing to "/etc/ppp/ip-up" and
> "ip-down" pointing to "/etc/ppp/ip-down".

i ran into a similar problem.  the problem, iirc, is that diald wants to
be in charge of bringing up pppd.  the script pointed at by the diald
connect param should only bring up the link, not bring up pppd.  

i believe what is happening to you is that pon brings up both the link and
pppd.  then diald attempts to bring up pppd, which fails (since it is
already up) and times out, causing diald to call the disconnect script.

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Re: memory leak

[Gary L. Hennigan]

In a message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Something that I'm running is leaking memory like crazy. How do I
| find this memory leak and more importantly, how does one fix it? I
| have 128Meg of memory on the system and when I first boot up, the
| system has 99Meg free. After running for a day or two, I'm dipping
| into the swap space and the /proc/meminfo shows 90 Meg tied up in
| "buffers:" 

Are you positive that you're using swap? "buffers:" is just disk
cache. Linux, and most other Unices, and I think even Win95,
dynamically adjust the amount of disk cache used based on how much
memory your system has and how much is being used. What's supposed to
happen is that as your applications, or the OS for that matter, ask
for memory Linux is supposed to shrink the amount of disk cache to
some minimum value. When your applications are finished then Linux
will, again, gradually start increasing the disk cache. Also, swap is
not only used as virtual memory, if an application is idle for a time
and not accessing the memory it's allocated Linux can swap it out.

I'm not saying you don't have a leak. K&R knows I've written my share
of memory leaking monstrosities, but it's pretty tricky to narrow
something like that down under a sophisticated OS like Linux. I would
imagine, if you're convinced you have a leak, judicious use of "ps"
could help.

Good Luck!
Gary


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Re: Linux system Instalation - CRC Error

[Michael B. Taylor]

Sounds like you there may be a media defect on the floppy you used for the
rescue disk.  Use another floppy.  This is pretty common.  

Here is what I do do make a Debian boot floppy set.  It is kinda time
consuming, but it has pretty much eliminated this kind of problem for me.

DOS (Win95, whatever) format the stack of floppys that you plan to use for
your installation set.  Watch the output messages.  If the format program
marks any sectors as bad, toss the disk or at least dont use it to make
your installation set.

Mike

On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Romilson Cruz de Carvalho wrote:

> Gentlemen,
> 
> I got the following files of instalation of Linux Debian:
> 
> Root.Bin
> Resc1440.Bin
> Drv1440.Bin
> Base-1.Bin  Base-2.Bin
> Base-3.Bin  Base-4.Bin
> Base-5.Bin  Base1_3.Tgz
> 
> The RAWRITE2.EXE was used to make the instalation disks.
> 
> When I put the RESCUE DISK in the drive and reboot my computer, the
> Linux initialization starts,
> but at the time that ROOT volume will be mounting, I got the folllowing
> error message:
> 
> CRC ERROR: Mounting Root File System.
> KERNEL PANIC.
> 
> Any help will be appreciate.
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> Romilson C. Carvalho
> 
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Re: How do I setup /dev/cdrom ?

[Randy Edwards]

First, go into /dev and do a "ls -l cdrom" and see where the symbolic link is
pointing to.

If your CD-ROM is the slave off from the primary controller, then it will be
known as /dev/hdb.

If the symbolic link is missing, or pointing to some other device than what your
CD-ROM is on, then simple delete it (if needed) and recreate another one using
something like "ln -s  ", or "ln -s /dev/hdb 
/dev/cdrom".

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Linux system Instalation - CRC Error

[Romilson Cruz de Carvalho]

Gentlemen,

I got the following files of instalation of Linux Debian:

Root.Bin
Resc1440.Bin
Drv1440.Bin
Base-1.Bin  Base-2.Bin
Base-3.Bin  Base-4.Bin
Base-5.Bin  Base1_3.Tgz

The RAWRITE2.EXE was used to make the instalation disks.

When I put the RESCUE DISK in the drive and reboot my computer, the
Linux initialization starts,
but at the time that ROOT volume will be mounting, I got the folllowing
error message:

CRC ERROR: Mounting Root File System.
KERNEL PANIC.

Any help will be appreciate.

Best regards.

Romilson C. Carvalho


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Problem with F90 compiler after upgrade to libc6

[Chris Auld]

Hi,

Yesterday I used the autoup.sh script to upgrade libc5 -> libc6.
My NAG Fortran 90 compiler now crashes out with the following
error:

f90 -w-c global.f -o global.o
In file included from global.f:1:
/usr/local/lib/f90/f90.h:48: math.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [global.o] Error 1   

Could someone please help me deal with this problem?


Thanks,

Chris Auld  (403)220-4098
Economics, University of Calgary
Calgary, Alberta, Canadahttp://jerry.ss.ucalgary.ca/>


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Weird diald behavior

[Randy Edwards]

Recently I decided to revamp my ppp and diald setup and adopt the
script strategy that the new version of ppp uses rather than my old
kludge.  Well, my experience proves the old saying, "if it ain't
broke..." ;-)

Here's the problem I'm having.  If I connect to my ISP using the ppp
package's script "pon" (e.g. "pon ncia") everything is rock solid.
The system runs beautifully.

I've got diald setup, diald will dial out properly, everything will
connect to the internet just fine.  However, after about a minute or
two of perfectly working internet usage, the system will dump the
carrier.

This is not a problem of ISP (I've tried it on two) and is not on the
phone line (as I said, if I do a "pon ncia" everything is rock solid
and I can stay on the net literally for days).

I have my "connect" parameter of diald.options pointing to
"/usr/bin/pon ncia" and the "disconnect" parm pointing at
"/usr/bin/poff".  I have diald.option's "ip-up" parameter pointing to
"/etc/ppp/ip-up" and "ip-down" pointing to "/etc/ppp/ip-down".

Something must be going astray in the initial logon sequence.  What
I'm suspecting is that the pon script might be timing out; does anyone
know if this is possible?

Also, is it foolish/recursive to have diald's diald-option "ip-up" and
"ip-down" parameters pointing to the same files as ppp runs for
"ip-up" and "ip-down"?  Could this be the source of my problem?  Any
thoughts on what might be happening would be greatly appreciated.

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mail woes after reinstall

[Rick Hawkins]

ARGH!!!

Yesterday mornign, I let unstable update itself.  Once more, the mail was 
clobhered.

Since I had an hour or two, and there were odd things about the disk, i decided
it woudl be a good time to wipe the disk.

Eventually, I figured out that most of my troubles comes from my maxtor 8.4 not 
liking
an 83 bus speed at all.  I"d known that it didn't like it with dma3, but life 
became
easier.

Stil, though, I don't have mail runnign again.  I couldn't get smail working 
for the life
of me.  (I'm sorry about the line breaks; i'm doing this from the command
line over telnet).  I managed to get sendmail partway, but not completely,
working.  It will send to the machine itself, but not offsite, and won't receive
mail from offsite.  I've tried with & without the null host ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

I'm stumped

I'd appreciate a cc to this adress ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); i'm still not clear on 
what's
going where, even though I think this adress will receive the digest.

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RE: older debian release?

[Laurent PICOULEAU]

Hi, 

> hi, i've got what may seem a strange request.. i'm looking for an older
> release of debian. i have a laptop w/ only 2MB RAM and i've been told that
> one of the older releases of debian will run under 2MB.

Bo can run in 2 MB RAM. You'll have to use the lmemboot floppy and to 
compile a kernel with make zImage (bzImage ones need 4 MB). Count 
about 20 hours to complete the installation of the base system. 

After the install, use ash instead of bash it's much much less greedy in RAM.




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Newbie stymied by installation ... twice! (1.3 _and_ 2.0)

[Tim Topper]

I'd really like to use Debian, but the installation's getting the better
of me. I've made two failed attempts. I'll describe them both, because
I'll pursue whichever one is most promising.

1. Installed Debian 1.3, but couldn't get network going. First I had
trouble installing the driver because the card (Intel Etherexpress
Pro/10) was not at a polled location, then because no entry for the
module was placed in /etc/modules. Eventually I had the card recognized
and no error messages, but still unable to ping or telnet.

Then I saw the news about 2.0. It looked easier to do another install
than to get networking going and then upgrade, so I ...

2. Wiped the 1.3 installation and installed 2.0, but still no network.
This time because during installation there was no driver offered for my
Ethernet card. I tried the Etherexpress driver without any luck.

So, is there an _easy_ way to get a driver for the Etherexpress Pro on
to my machine and install it, or should I redo the 1.3 install, try to
get networking going, and then upgrade to 2.0?

Any help gratefully accepted.

.
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Re: squake not working

[Jens B. Jorgensen]

Unfortunately, SVGA does not stand for "standard VGA". SVGAlib, which is what
squake runs under, doesn't have support for NeoMagic because NeoMagic won't give
out technical info about their cards freely. There are commercial X Servers for
NeoMagic boards so maybe you could use xquake with one of them. Even then, 
xquake
may rely on XFree86-specific extensions so this might not work either. It would
be a great help to the linux community if you would register your discontent 
with
NeoMagic.

Ian Lynagh wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> I am having a few problems  :-(
>
> Am I right in saying that my Neomagic video card should be able to
> play games such as squake in standard VGA mode? Whenever I try to
> run squake I get
>
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
>
> although I can't find a core anywhere. How do I set this up?

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Multiple ethernet cards

[Yosef B]

Using Hamm - 2.0.33 monolithic kernel with ne compiled in.  Trying to
get two ne2000 cards to work.  Doesn't seen to operate like 1.3.
Putting the hardware parameters in lilo.conf doesn't seem to have any
effect.   Also, the mini-howto for multiple ethernets seems to have
dissapeared off the net.

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Re: squake not working

[Shaleh]

This is a problem w/ your svgalib (the libc5 version).  Apparently the
package is not running ldconfig like it is supposed to.  As root type
'ldconfig'.  This reloads your list of shared libraries.  After this
squake should work.  If not, please run 'ldd squake.real' in the
directory where squake.real is and send the output to this list.  I
think it is either /usr/bin or /usr/games/.

Ian Lynagh wrote:
> 
> Hi all!
> 
> I am having a few problems  :-(
> 
> Am I right in saying that my Neomagic video card should be able to
> play games such as squake in standard VGA mode? Whenever I try to
> run squake I get
> 
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> 
> although I can't find a core anywhere. How do I set this up?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Ian
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Re: Once burned...

[Bob Nielsen]

As far as the 820 is concerned, the following is from the Ghostscript
printer compatibility page (www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/printer.html):

The HP DeskJet 720C, 722C, 820C and 1000C are PPA printers. They will
   not work with the PCL drivers above. You are expected to use PPA
   printers with a special Windows printer driver. You might be able to
   use the Ghostscript mswinpr2 device which is only available under
   Windows and talks to the Windows printer driver. A PPA driver for the
   HP820C does exist for Ghostscript. It was written without access to
   documentation. See ftp://ftp.ig.utexas.edu/outgoing/scottk/820C/
   
You'd have to compile your own ghostscript from the source code, adding
this driver, instead of just installing the Debian gs-aladdin package, but
it should work. 

On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I hope this is the right list for utterly and incredibly new Linux newbies.
> I had another distribution my machine but it was too old to recognize most
> of my hardware to I gave it away. I'm waiting now for Debian 2 to start
> anew but I wanted to be sure my hardware will work with this one. Hope you
> can help.
> 
> I have a Logitech TrackMan Marble (same connector as the standard PS/2 port
> mouse), an HP DeskJet 820 CSE on LPT1, an ATI Video Expression+ (Direct
> Draw) video card, and a Sound III 336SP Sound Card and 333 modem
> combination (OEM stuff). The other Linux either didn't recognize any of
> them or I couldn't figure out how to make it; actually I never had the
> chance to try the modem. 
> 
> The other Linux did recognize both my hard drives and my CD.
> 
> Sorry to be so wordy but I'd rather not set it all up again only to find I
> can't use it. Anyway, is there a way to find out specifically if Debian 2
> will be able to support my hardware?
> 
> Thanks much. 
> 
> NN
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Re: Once burned...

[Oliver Elphick]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  >Hi all,
  >
  >I hope this is the right list for utterly and incredibly new Linux newbies.
  >I had another distribution my machine but it was too old to recognize most
  >of my hardware to I gave it away. I'm waiting now for Debian 2 to start
  >anew but I wanted to be sure my hardware will work with this one. Hope you
  >can help.
  >
  >I have a Logitech TrackMan Marble (same connector as the standard PS/2 port
  >mouse)...

I can't comment on the rest, but this is fine.  It is a PS/2 mouse and uses
device /dev/psaux.

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memory leak

[tko]

Something that I'm running is leaking memory like crazy. How do I find this
memory leak and more importantly, how does one fix it? I have 128Meg of memory
on the system and when I first boot up, the system has 99Meg free. After
running for a day or two, I'm dipping into the swap space and the
/proc/meminfo shows 90 Meg tied up in "buffers:"

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Re: nvidia riva 128 - xf86config

[Ossama Othman]

Hi,

> I`m useing a Diamond Viper V330 (Nvidia Riva 128) card but this card
> isn`t listed...

Try the SVGA driver.  I believe support for the Riva 128 is in it.

-Ossama


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Re: How do I get exim to work?

[Jaakko Niemi]

>> popclient: POP3< +OK 5698 octets
>> reading message 1 (5698 bytes)
>> popclient: SMTP connect to (null) failed

 Smells like exim is not running, nor inetd is starting it. Do you have 
something like the
 following in your inetd.conf:

 #:MAIL: Mail, news and uucp services.
smtpstream  tcp nowait  mail/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/exim 
exim -bs

?

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Re: How do I setup /dev/cdrom ?

[Jaakko Niemi]

>> i have the same problem,my cdrom is no more accessible (though it's not a
>> indrance for now),i have a pioneer ATAPI CD drive,a regular ide card and
>> the drive is properly configured as slave (my Hard Drive is master),i did
>> not have the problem before when i was having Ontrack Disk Manager but
>> i have removed it knowing linux can work with big drive,but since then,the
>> CD drive stopped working,here's my lilo.conf:
>> 
>> boot=/dev/hda2
>> root=/dev/hda2
>> compact
>> install=/boot/boot.b
>> map=/boot/map
>> vga=normal
>> delay=20
>> image=/vmlinuz
>> label=Linux
>> read-only
>> 
>> do you know if adding the linear parameter would help ???

 I don't think it does have anything to do with CDROMs. 
 The CD in your case is /dev/hdb, and in my system 
 /dev/cdrom is symlink to the appropriate device.

 Can you mount it? (mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /cdrom)

 Does the kernel find the CDROM in boot ?

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Re: HELP! can't get my email!

[Johnie Ingram]

"Brian" == Brian Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Brian> Report from server Err Maillock: 'var/spool/pop/bmorgan.pop'

Sounds like a qpopper bug I ran into in October 96; pity its still
there.  My solution was to install cucipop (packaging it in the
process).  ;-)

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Re: Once burned...

[Ossama Othman]

Hi,

I can vouch for the Trackman Marble since I have the exact same thing.  :)

It works fine for me.  All three buttons work in X Windows.  If you are
using the PS/2 mouse port, make sure you have PS/2 mouse support enabled
in your kernel or installed as a module.  The module for this psaux.  From
what I recall, Debian has this setup by default.

I can't help you with the other hardware. Sorry.

-Ossama


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CONFIRM s062514302514253

[Yosef B]

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Re: older debian release?

[Nelson Posse Lago]

On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, peter wrote:

> hi, i've got what may seem a strange request.. i'm looking for an older
> release of debian. i have a laptop w/ only 2MB RAM and i've been told that
> one of the older releases of debian will run under 2MB.

Try using an older kernel; The 1.2.13 is smaller than 2.0.X, and has
support for ELF binaries. With it, I guess debian 1.3.1 should be OK. And
you might want to use 1.0.9, smaller still, but I don't know about ELF,
maybe you'd have to use debian 0.93R6 which was a.out.

Also, you may want to check out http://rsphy1.anu.edu.au/~gpg109/mem.html .

I don't know if this address is still valid!

See ya,
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ppp analog bonding w/ eql

[Debian Mailing List]

hi there i am a newbie and was wondering if anyone has or know how to use
two modems or more to dial up to a isp and bond all the lines together..

my isp currently uses ascend dial-up servers and supports 56k modems

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nvidia riva 128 - xf86config

[O.G.]

Hi,
I`m useing a Diamond Viper V330 
(Nvidia Riva 128) card but this card isn`t listed in the xf86config. Now my 
question: where can I get a xf86config which supports the Nvidia Riva 128 chip 
set?
Thanks
Olli

Re: Once burned...

[Marsh Ray]

I just set up a machine sort of like that one . . .

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I have a Logitech TrackMan Marble (same connector as the standard PS/2 port
>mouse),

use /dev/psaux, I think you need to load a kernel module.

>an HP DeskJet 820 CSE on LPT1,
ATI Video Expression+ (Direct
>Draw) video card,

Should work fine for X, think of it as an "ATI Mach 64"

>and a Sound III 336SP Sound Card

Probably SB16 compatible

>and 333 modem combination (OEM stuff).

Watch out . . this might be one of those "WinModem" type
things which only works under Microsoft Windows!

>The other Linux either didn't recognize any of
>them or I couldn't figure out how to make it; actually I never had the
>chance to try the modem.
>
>The other Linux did recognize both my hard drives and my CD.
>
>Sorry to be so wordy but I'd rather not set it all up again only to find I
>can't use it. Anyway, is there a way to find out specifically if Debian 2
>will be able to support my hardware?


see http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO.html

Usually device support is a kernel rather than a distribution
issue.  Debian 2.0 beta comes with a fairly recent kernel,
but you may still want to build your own kernel.  I needed to update to 2.0.34
in order to support my 3c905b.

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squake not working

[Ian Lynagh]

Hi all!

I am having a few problems  :-(

Am I right in saying that my Neomagic video card should be able to
play games such as squake in standard VGA mode? Whenever I try to
run squake I get

Segmentation fault (core dumped)

although I can't find a core anywhere. How do I set this up?

Thanks in advance
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Once burned...

[neuwirth]

Hi all,

I hope this is the right list for utterly and incredibly new Linux newbies.
I had another distribution my machine but it was too old to recognize most
of my hardware to I gave it away. I'm waiting now for Debian 2 to start
anew but I wanted to be sure my hardware will work with this one. Hope you
can help.

I have a Logitech TrackMan Marble (same connector as the standard PS/2 port
mouse), an HP DeskJet 820 CSE on LPT1, an ATI Video Expression+ (Direct
Draw) video card, and a Sound III 336SP Sound Card and 333 modem
combination (OEM stuff). The other Linux either didn't recognize any of
them or I couldn't figure out how to make it; actually I never had the
chance to try the modem. 

The other Linux did recognize both my hard drives and my CD.

Sorry to be so wordy but I'd rather not set it all up again only to find I
can't use it. Anyway, is there a way to find out specifically if Debian 2
will be able to support my hardware?

Thanks much. 

NN
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xmp-1.1.3 plays wrong on AWE32...

[Aki Nyrhinen]

What's wrong ?
When I try to play a module using oss_seq, it plays the patterns _really_
fast. The oss_mix works like a charm.. 

platform is a noname alpha, kernel version is 2.1.107.





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Re: changing module parameters

[Mike Schmitz]

On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 10:50:29AM -0400, Hank Fay wrote:
> Mike,
> 
>   yup, that works fine, thanks.
> 
>   A followup question: the old "wrong parameters" install still shows up
> earlier in the boot sequence.  Where is that information stored?  I'm
> half-guessing, being new at this thing, that it was compiled into some kind
> of map when I built the system using the install. ???
> 
> Hank

Check earlier in the same file.

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Re: dump and 4mm DAT

[Jens B. Jorgensen]

I use:

dump 0uBf 4096000 /dev/st0

A couple of things to notice:

0   This means do a level 0 dump (everything). You'll want to work out a 
schedule
of full/incremental dumps
u   This means that /etc/dumpdates should be updated. Incrementals backups 
depend
on this data.
B   This is the length of the media, in bytes. It is important that you make 
this
the length of your tape. I've got a DDS2 drive which has 4GB capacity (native) 
on
120M tapes.
/dev/st0   This is obviously the device file. Yours is probably the same.

Philippe BARBELET wrote:

> Dear debian users,
>
> Do you know what are the good parameters to use whith the "dump"
> command for a 4mm DAT system ?
>
> Tank you.
>
> Phil.
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dosemu resolution

[Robert Kerr]

Many thanks to all those who gave me their thoughts on dosemu.  I got it
up and running yesterday.  Here's what I did:

1) Boot dos6.22.
2) Sys a floppy
3) boot Linux
4) run dosemu using the boot floppy
C: drive is the supplied hdimage
5) lredir d: my hard drive dos directory
6) using the hard drive dos directory sys C:
7) change dosemu.conf to bootC and
Voila!!  everything works very nicely.

Thanks


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Re: smbmount /usr possible?

[Jens Ritter]

Gunnar Strand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've recently gotten myself a little local network and have decided
> to run my old 486 as server for exporting its large HD by using samba.
> My new PC (the client) has both Linux and Win95 bootable + the old
> 1GB HD. Now, I want to minimize the Linux partition on my client and
> smbmount the /usr directory from my server. The target is to share
> every little file that is sharable to maximize the usage of the HD.
>  
> The best would be (I suppose) to have the same /usr mounted on both
> hosts. However, debian seems to use /usr to store vital installation
> information which will cause conflicts if I manage to smbmount that
> directory.

What do you mean by "vital installation information"? Debian strives
to put every configuration file into /etc, so I guess I didn´t
understand the problem.

If you run Debian on both machines, there´s no easy solution for
keeping the dpkg database up to date on both servers.

I would try mounting /usr from the server with the big hd and
propagate /etc in another way. 

Jens
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Re: speed improvements for a low end system

[Raymond A. Ingles]

On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

> 
> I'm in the process of replacing my computer's role with an old computer,
> to give my system more freedom (I don't have to be up all the time!).
> 
> Anyone have any software suggestions on how I can improve the speed on my
> old 486DX/33 (8 ram, 1 ide, 2 old scsi drives, PS/1 w/ 8k i-cache!)?

 First, I have one hardware suggestion: add more RAM if at all possible.
Even a couple more megs will make a noticeable difference.

 Running all this stuff means you will be using swap. Put your swap on the
fastest drive you have. Better yet, put a swap partition on each drive,
and give priority to the fastest drive. This will make your swap as fast
as possible.

 But swap is still a couple orders of magnitude slower than RAM, so the
very best thing you can do for this system is to put in more RAM if at all
possible. Linux is very efficient with RAM, but the more the better.

 The next best thing is to set up your software to use less RAM. This will
reduce swapping. Make the smallest possible kernel you can - only include
support for what you need. If possible, don't use modules, compile
everything in. The RAM savings is tiny, but every little bit helps.

> This computer is only used for the following services:
> * telnet (only for password changes, all shells are /usr/bin/passwd)
> * html (running apache)

 Do you really need to do this? See if you can limit the amount of memory
Apache takes up. Or look at boa or some other, smaller webserver. Or use a
port redirector and run the service on another computer.

> * pop3 (also running qmail, running from inetd)
> * smtp (currently running qmail, running as a daemon)

 Are there any mailservers that are smaller?

> * dns (running bind)

 Check the man page for bind, and limit the amount of memory it uses.

> * ip masquerading (local -> internet, both 10mbit ethernet connections)
> 
> I listed the services in order of how fast they run (first being the
> slowest, and last the fastest)  -- this isn't a heavly used system, but
> when multiple events occur at the same time, it becomes extremely slow.

 That really sounds like swapping. Putting in RAM is the very best thing.

> I want to remove all processes that take lots of cpu time and memory. 

 I think the main problem is memory. A 486/33 is a decent CPU for these
kinds of things - you're not doing math or compiling or anything.

 Sincerely,

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Re: Mouse freezes when running GIMP

[Ed Cogburn]

Ed Cogburn wrote:
> 
> I have libgtk 1.04 and GIMP 1.0 (hamm) and a standard serial el-cheapo
> mouse.  When I run GIMP, the mouse locks up.  I have to use Ctrl-Alt-Backsp
> to exit X.  This didn't happen with prior versions, but I'm not sure what
> exactly is causing it, because both gtk and gimp have been updated in the
> recent past (I didn't pay close attention), as well as a video hardware
> upgrade resulting in a new default resolution and color depth for X. I've
> tried reinstalling, changing mouse protocols in XF86Config, killing GPM
> before running X but nothing changes.  Has anybody seen this before?
> 


I'll answer my own question.  As soon as I had posted the above, it hit 
me
that something else has changed since GIMP last worked and that was X (3.3.1
to 3.3.2).  I looked in XF86Config and discovered the XInput section which I
had activated (for joystick support) even though I've yet to use that
functionality.  I commented this out and reran.  Presto!  So, either GIMP
doesn't like Xinput or X doesn't like GIMP, I'm not sure which to point the
finger at.  Moral of this story, don't use Xinput (for now).


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Re: dosemu

[The Gecko]

On 24-Jun-98 Ian Stuart wrote:
> How on earth do I get dosemu to use my 4Dos dos rather than freedos?

dosemu uses a disk image that's been created before hand.  To get dosemu to use
another *dos than the one it's currently using.. build another/different disk
image.. I built my image off of a floppy formated with MSDos 6x. I forgot the
exact commands I used (this was a few months back)...  See if that little bit
of information helps you... if not.. let me know and I'll dig out my notes back
when I was working with it.


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Re: program to switch consoles?

[Paul Miller]

Perfect!  That is exactly what I'm looking for.

Thanks
-Paul

On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Paul Miller wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I'm looking for a program to switch the displayed console after my system
> > finishes booting (from tty1 to tty2).
> > 
> > Why?  I use tty1 for logging in and tty2 for syslog messages, and I'd like
> > to see the output by default after my system boots.
> > 
> > -Paul
> 
> chvt
> 
> package: kbd
> 
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VAXstation Linux

[Tod Detre]

Is there any plans to port Debian to VAXstations? I know there is a port
of NetBSD, but Debian would be so much cooler.

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Re: memory usage and Netscape

[Mark Panzer]

Ed Cogburn wrote:
> 
> Mark Panzer wrote:
> >
> > Ed Cogburn wrote:
> > >
> > > Nelson Posse Lago wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Mark Panzer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > While running netscape ver 4.05 I commonly run out of memory after two
> > > > > hours.  I have 32Mbytes of RAM and a 50Mbyte swap.
> > > >
> > > > Netscape for linux leaks memory like hell; you may want to install
> > > > netscape using the debian installer package, it preloads (or used to,
> > > > don't know if this is the case still) some libraries tha alleviate (but
> > > > don't solve) the problem. There's not much more you can do about it. I
> > > > *think* what really kills memory fast are animated gifs, since it
> > > > actually "reloads" the gif indefinetely, so "ESC" should help also.
> > > >
> > > > See ya,
> > > > Nelson
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > That's Internet!
> > > >
> > > > "The future? I've seen the future: It's a 46 years old
> > > > virgin singing 'I am a hotdog'" - From "Demolition Man"
> > > >
> > >
> > > How can this be?  If NS ran out of memory after two hours of use 
> > > it would
> > > affect everybody.  Yet this is the first post concerning the problem, and 
> > > in
> > > all the time I've used NS on linux its only happened once (I was doing a 
> > > lot
> > > of stuff in the background at the time).  It may be related to the version
> > > (professional/standalone) or maybe something else thats running at the 
> > > same
> > > time.
> > The thing is the only way I seem to have enough free memory to run
> > Netscape is to be the only person log-in an account and the only
> > programs running are shown in myproc.txt which is attached.  Right now I
> > have 12MBytes of RAM free and am not using the swap but wait maybe 20
> > min. even if I don't do anything and it'll already be using about 20Meg
> > of my swap.  That seems weird because I have my memory cache down to
> > 100Kbytes and disk cache to 1Meg.
> >
> > Mark Panzer
> >
> 
> That does sound weird.  I have 32M ram + 70M swap, running 2.0.34 
> kernel,
> using glibc version of NS v4.05 professional.  After logging in to X, I then
> logged in to 2 other consoles and ran dselect and mc in them.  Its hard to
> tell what's going on by the output of top, but at the beginning of this
> session, top showed all mem in use but no swap.  After about an hour and a
> half, including mail and browser activity, it has released ~1M of RAM but is
> using ~8M of swap.  As soon as I end the apps in the consoles I get ~5M of
> ram back (free), for a max change of 2 to 8 meg of used memory.  That isn't
> much of a change, and seems reasonable given what I was doing.  I have
> certainly never seen the kind of effects you are seeing (like using 20M of


I'm about ready to use a big profanity because I had a really nice
message worked up to reply but then netscape mail used up all my memory
and quit blowing away about 25 min of typing a message.  Anyway attached
are the results from ps and free at about 5 min before it wiped out all
my communicator apps I had open (dumping all the text I had typed
).  Someone asked if I had used the debian package to install it,
yes I did.  Maybe this problem could be attributed to my kernel?  Maybe
it doesn't do memory management correctly?  I also noticed that right
after I went to a page which used java and the java vm started that my
memory (now swap) usage went up by 5 meg!  Is there someone else that
may know more about this?  It is starting to get really annoying when I
have to have a xterm open all the time and every 5 min check the amount
of free space to see if I have to close netscape and open it again to
stop this memory growth problem.  Is there anything that you know of
that I can try (there's seems to be some weird bug here).  Maybe when
netscape gets compiled for libc6 I won't have to load the old v5 libs
and it'll save memory??? 

Mark Panzer

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Mem: 30260  29816444   9212116   7440
-/+ buffers/cache:  22260   8000
Swap:48188  20484  27704
  PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
  157   1 S0:00 (bash)
  163   1 S0:00 (xinit)
  171   1 S0:02 /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2 
  181   1 S0:00 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm2/FvwmPager 8 5 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fv
  183  p0 S0:00 -bash 
  193   1 S2:59 /usr/lib/netscape/netscape mailbox: 
  205   1 S0:00 (netscape)
  363  p0 R0:00 ps 

Mouse freezes when running GIMP

[Ed Cogburn]

I have libgtk 1.04 and GIMP 1.0 (hamm) and a standard serial el-cheapo
mouse.  When I run GIMP, the mouse locks up.  I have to use Ctrl-Alt-Backsp
to exit X.  This didn't happen with prior versions, but I'm not sure what
exactly is causing it, because both gtk and gimp have been updated in the
recent past (I didn't pay close attention), as well as a video hardware
upgrade resulting in a new default resolution and color depth for X. I've
tried reinstalling, changing mouse protocols in XF86Config, killing GPM
before running X but nothing changes.  Has anybody seen this before?


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Re: Re[2]: Two 'gcc's? Yea or Nay?

[Ossama Othman]

Hi,

> >   $ ls -l /usr/bin/egcc /usr/bin/gcc
> >   -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root60320 Jun 17 03:04 /usr/bin/egcc*
> >   -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root49460 Jun 15 00:48 /usr/bin/gcc*
> 
> Ok, I haven't posted a BIG DUMMY question in quite some time; I'm overdue!
> 
> SO: what's the significance of the asterisks next to those two lines above?

Heh, good question!  :)

The asterisk after the filename indicates that it is an executable file.
Similarly a directory would have a "/" after it.  This type of output is
caused by doing a "ls -F."  Debian sets up the following aliases:

unalias ls
alias   ls  'ls-F -C'

It seems that "ls-F" (no space after ls) is a shell built-in command.  As
stated above, shells that don't have this built-in command can simply use
"ls -F" (with a space after ls) to produce the desired output.
Incidentally, here is an excerpt from the ls man page:

   -F, --classify
  Append a character to each file name indicating the
  file type.  For regular files that are  executable,
  append a `*'.  The file type indicators are `/' for
  directories, `@' for symbolic links, `|' for FIFOs,
  `=' for sockets, and nothing for regular files.

-Ossama


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Re[2]: Two 'gcc's? Yea or Nay?

[Bob Bernstein]

Anthony Fok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, if you are patient (to wait for the CD), or if you don't mind
> downloading Debian 2.0 Beta:  Debian 2.0 Beta already comes with both gcc
> and egcs.  ;-)

Kewl. BTW, Linux System Labs is taking orders for 2.0 (at least they've got
mine!); they forecast delivery starting the end of this month or early next...

>   $ ls -l /usr/bin/egcc /usr/bin/gcc
>   -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root60320 Jun 17 03:04 /usr/bin/egcc*
>   -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root49460 Jun 15 00:48 /usr/bin/gcc*

Ok, I haven't posted a BIG DUMMY question in quite some time; I'm overdue!

SO: what's the significance of the asterisks next to those two lines above?


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Re[2]: Two 'gcc's? Yea or Nay?

[Bob Bernstein]

Christopher Fury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Don't worry, I had a simular but unlrelated FAQ reading problem with
> egcs recently too... :)

Hmmm...sort of a new public mental health issue, huh? We could call it
FAQophobia or something equally pithy! Start a movement to defend the rights
of FAQ-literacy-challenged minority group, and nominate ourselves its founding
members. 

> configure egcs like so:
> 
> ../configure --prefix=/usr/local/egcs
> 
> when you install, this will make a directory egcs in /usr/local.
> 
> then I went into /usr/local/bin and symlinked the binaries so I could
> have both gcc and egcc (what I called the symlink for egcs's version of
> gcc).

This appears to be an excellent tactic; it's too bad that in typical
bull-in-china-shop fashion I just barged into the compile using the default
/usr/local prefix! When will I learn patience?  Oh well, I'll just do it
over as I've done over so many other things!

Thanks!


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How to use 2 ISPs with PAP?

[atheris]

Can anyone advise on how to configure the system to handle two ISP
connections, both of which use PAP:

1. ISP with dynamic IP address
2. ISP with fixed IP address

How should the routing work? At present I have

127.0.0.1  0.0.0.0  255.255.255.255  UH  0 0   0 lo
192.168.0.00.0.0.0  255.255.255.0U   0 0   0 eth0
127.0.0.0  0.0.0.0  255.0.0.0U   0 0   1 lo

On dial-up, the dynamic IP then appears as a gateway.

The 192.168.0.0 is the internal network (one other linux box), so
how/where do I also have to configure the fixed IP address? At present
/etc/resolv.conf has domain/search entries for the dynamic IPs.

Also, PAP-Secrets says not to use more than one login name and password,
at present those of the dynamic IP connection. So how does one add another
ISP there? 

I have RTFM and Kirch's excellent Network Administrator's Guide but am
becoming more confused by the minute, so any tips would be greatly
appreciated.

TIA
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Socks

[Boris Lackovic]

helo!!

Where can I find socks package?
Running bo 1.3.1.
I would like to install sockd demon to help local users to use port 1080
as SOCKS port for the netscape etc... in my gateway to another network.
Btw...Im inside firewal..no chanse to run some proxy server on my PC.
(Im not alloved to use some proxy myself,only gatewaying.)

73's de Boris

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Re: /etc/init.d/boot message?

[Ulisses Alonso Camaro]

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> But generally I would like to see something like this, writing the output from
> this program to a seperate log file might be an idea to.

HPUX also makes boot/shudown logs

regards,

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Re: /etc/init.d/boot message?

[Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131]

>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> I have bootet some HPux systems here at the Univiersity and I realy
>> liked the way they boot:
>> After the kernel is loaded you get a list of things to be done. All
>> have a [.] at the end. Now the bootprocedure goes from top to
>> bottom and fills in what its doing into that list.
>> Heres an example made up to explain what I mean:

Yep I have seen that sort of thing before, and I think it would be a good idea.
 
>> ...
>> Running filesystem check . [  ok  ]
>> Mounting local filesystems ... [  ok  ]
>> Starting remote services . [failed]
>> Synchronysing time ... [ wait ]
>> Starting xdm   [..]
>> ...
>> 
>> The status in [...] is colored. OK is green, wait and similar are
>> yellow, failed will be red I think.
>> 
>> I would like to implement a similar thing for Linux. My programm would 
>> check the last boot sequence for output and create a menu
>> acordingly (this could be done on roots demand or after every
>> boot). Also the boot messages would go to another console (like
>> console 8) and to a logfile.
>>
>> What do you think of this?

I think It may be rather difficult to implement, as wouldn't it mean a program
taking over the boot process and it would then be this program that controled
the execution sequence of the init scripts.  Also how would you tell if the
scripts had been executed sucsessfully?  Do they return a code or something on
completion?

But generally I would like to see something like this, writing the output from
this program to a seperate log file might be an idea to.

Good Luck
 
Graham

P.S. If you want any help please feel free to contact me.

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>> 
>> May the Source be with you.
>>  Mrvn
>> 
>> PS: We could also show some ansi or gfx penguin in the corner during
>> boot. This wont look as bad as the old one, because the screen wont be 
>> scrolling.
>> 
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Re: Partitioning/Dual Booting

[Mark Panzer]

M. Phillips wrote:
> 
> I'm a newby to the whole Linux/GNU/Debian system, being a long-time MS
> devotee, and although I am very close to being sold on getting it, I have a
> couple of questions to clear up first.
> 
> 1: In the FAQ, section 3.4
>  states that one
> should partition a 1.6 GB hard disk with the following partitions:
> "
> *30 MBytes for the root directory (/)
> *450 MBytes for /usr
> *50 MBytes for swap space
> *1000 MBytes for home directories (some of this could be used for
> /usr/local/)
> *0 MBytes for /tmp; make /tmp a symbolic link to /var/tmp
> *40 MBytes for /var "
> 
> Pardon my ignorance, or mayhaps it's the ambiguity of the whole section,
> but does this mean I need five separate partitions on the single disk, or
> (more likely, methinks) does it mean that the single partition consists of
> 1570 MBytes?  Any clarification would be most appreciated.
> 

Yes this example show that you need 5 separate partitions.  I just did
this to my computer recently.  Here is how I have it set-up:

paritionLinux Name  Mount Point (where it is in the directory map)
1   hda1none Win 95
2   hda2Linux root (/)
3   hda3Linux /usr (where most of your applications 
hide)
4   hda4Linux swap

Just use your handy cfdisk program included with you Debian distribution
(after backing up ALL the data you wish to keep) and make your
partitions.  Otherwise you could use "Partition Magic" to shrink the
size of your Windows or DOS partition and create your linux partitions
from the free space.

> Also, seeing as how I _am_ new to the idea, I would very much like to
> perform a dual boot between Win95/MS-DOS, and Debian/GNU Linux operating
> systems.  Seems like somewhere in the dark recesses of the PC World
> archives there's a miniscule article about dual-booting between 2 or more
> OSes, but I've since lost/given away the issue, and I'd like to hear it
> from a user more experienced than myself in the area.
> 
To use the quick way out at www.linux.org in the HOWTO documents there
is one on dual booting between Linux and Win95/DOS/OS2 etc...  Linux
uses the LILO loader to load up your operating system, but you can also
use it to load Windows or DOS.  If you need more help just ask I can
send you my lilo.conf the file which tells LILO how to boot up Win95 in
my system.

Mark Panzer

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Re: program to switch consoles?

[Steve Mayer]

Paul,

  man switchto

Steve Mayer
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Paul Miller wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for a program to switch the displayed console after my system
> finishes booting (from tty1 to tty2).
> 
> Why?  I use tty1 for logging in and tty2 for syslog messages, and I'd like
> to see the output by default after my system boots.
> 
> -Paul
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smbmount not showing all dir enteries on client

[servis]

Hi,

I have my Debian box running samba 1.9.18p8.  I am also mounting
the clients drives with smbmount.  The problem is that not all the
directories on the client are showing up when mounted.

In the windows directory on the client when I issue
'dir /a:d/o:n' I get:

AIM95  04-26-98  6:31p aim95
COMMAND03-19-98  3:08p COMMAND
CONFIG 03-19-98  3:08p CONFIG
COOKIES03-19-98  3:37p Cookies
CURSORS03-19-98  3:08p CURSORS
DESKTOP03-19-98  3:08p DESKTOP
DRIVERS04-19-98  8:55a Drivers
FAVORI~1   03-19-98  3:38p Favorites
FONTS  03-19-98  3:08p FONTS
FORMS  03-19-98  3:08p FORMS
HELP   03-19-98  3:08p HELP
HISTORY03-19-98  3:37p History
INF03-19-98  3:08p INF
INTUIT 04-26-98 12:21p Intuit
JAVA   03-19-98  3:08p JAVA
LOTUSAPP   04-16-98  8:08p LOTUSAPP
MEDIA  03-19-98  3:08p MEDIA
MSAPPS 03-19-98  3:15p MsApps
NETHOOD04-16-98  1:18p NetHood
OPTIONS03-19-98  3:08p OPTIONS
PHOTOCD03-19-98  3:16p PHOTOCD
PIF03-19-98  3:37p PIF
PROFILES   04-20-98  5:49p Profiles
RECENT 03-19-98  3:37p Recent
SENDTO 03-19-98  3:21p SendTo
SHELLNEW   03-19-98  3:08p ShellNew
SPOOL  03-19-98  3:08p SPOOL
STARTM~1   03-19-98  3:15p Start Menu
SYSBCKUP   03-19-98  3:15p SYSBCKUP
SYSTEM 03-19-98  3:08p SYSTEM
TEMP   03-19-98  3:15p TEMP
TEMPOR~1   03-19-98  3:37p Temporary Internet Files
UBISOFT04-16-98  2:24p UbiSoft
WANGSAMP   03-19-98  3:08p WANGSAMP
WORDVIEW   03-19-98  3:14p WORDVIEW
WS2BAKUP   04-26-98  4:04p ws2bakup

But from the server when I issue in the windows directory with 
'find . -type d -maxdepth 1' I get:

./COMMAND
./CONFIG
./CURSORS
./DESKTOP
./FONTS
./FORMS
./HELP
./INF
./JAVA
./MEDIA
./MsApps
./OPTIONS
./PHOTOCD
./SPOOL
./SYSBCKUP
./SYSTEM
./SendTo
./TEMP
./WANGSAMP
./WORDVIEW

Why are some of the directory not showing up?  Thanks.

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dump and 4mm DAT

[Philippe BARBELET]

Dear debian users,

Do you know what are the good parameters to use whith the "dump"
command for a 4mm DAT system ?

Tank you.

Phil.


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Re: memory usage and Netscape

[Ed Cogburn]

Mark Panzer wrote:
> 
> Ed Cogburn wrote:
> >
> > Nelson Posse Lago wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Mark Panzer wrote:
> > >
> > > > While running netscape ver 4.05 I commonly run out of memory after two
> > > > hours.  I have 32Mbytes of RAM and a 50Mbyte swap.
> > >
> > > Netscape for linux leaks memory like hell; you may want to install
> > > netscape using the debian installer package, it preloads (or used to,
> > > don't know if this is the case still) some libraries tha alleviate (but
> > > don't solve) the problem. There's not much more you can do about it. I
> > > *think* what really kills memory fast are animated gifs, since it
> > > actually "reloads" the gif indefinetely, so "ESC" should help also.
> > >
> > > See ya,
> > > Nelson
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > That's Internet!
> > >
> > > "The future? I've seen the future: It's a 46 years old
> > > virgin singing 'I am a hotdog'" - From "Demolition Man"
> > >
> >
> > How can this be?  If NS ran out of memory after two hours of use it 
> > would
> > affect everybody.  Yet this is the first post concerning the problem, and in
> > all the time I've used NS on linux its only happened once (I was doing a lot
> > of stuff in the background at the time).  It may be related to the version
> > (professional/standalone) or maybe something else thats running at the same
> > time.
> The thing is the only way I seem to have enough free memory to run
> Netscape is to be the only person log-in an account and the only
> programs running are shown in myproc.txt which is attached.  Right now I
> have 12MBytes of RAM free and am not using the swap but wait maybe 20
> min. even if I don't do anything and it'll already be using about 20Meg
> of my swap.  That seems weird because I have my memory cache down to
> 100Kbytes and disk cache to 1Meg.
> 
> Mark Panzer
> 


That does sound weird.  I have 32M ram + 70M swap, running 2.0.34 
kernel,
using glibc version of NS v4.05 professional.  After logging in to X, I then
logged in to 2 other consoles and ran dselect and mc in them.  Its hard to
tell what's going on by the output of top, but at the beginning of this
session, top showed all mem in use but no swap.  After about an hour and a
half, including mail and browser activity, it has released ~1M of RAM but is
using ~8M of swap.  As soon as I end the apps in the consoles I get ~5M of
ram back (free), for a max change of 2 to 8 meg of used memory.  That isn't
much of a change, and seems reasonable given what I was doing.  I have
certainly never seen the kind of effects you are seeing (like using 20M of
swap).


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RE: changing module parameters

[Hank Fay]

Mike,

yup, that works fine, thanks.

A followup question: the old "wrong parameters" install still shows up
earlier in the boot sequence.  Where is that information stored?  I'm
half-guessing, being new at this thing, that it was compiled into some kind
of map when I built the system using the install. ???

Hank



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From: Mike Schmitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Mike Schmitz
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 2:20 AM
To: 'Debian-User E-mail'
Subject: Re: changing module parameters


On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 01:52:11AM -0400, Hank Fay wrote:
> Oops -- the info on modules to be loaded was in /etc/modules -- but no
info
> on the parameters being passed.

You want /etc/conf.modules.
my ne otions line is:

options ne io=0x340


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Re: Need linux for alpha

[Will Lowe]

> unless something drastic happened very recently, Linux will NOT
> run on any of the DEC 3000 series.  for more info, check out

Thanks for the info.  Arg. :)
Will


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2 ethernet cards - Thank you

[BARBELET Philippe]

Hi Ian,

You were right. I have recompile the kernel whith the module 3c509
included
and it's working very well !

Thenak you !

Phil.

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A: Barbelet, Philippe
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Objet: Re: 2 ethernet cards  (more ...)
Date: jeudi 25 juin 1998 01:14

Microsoft Mail v3.0 IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note
From: Ian Eure
To:  Barbelet, Philippe
Cc:  debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:  Re: 2 ethernet cards  (more ...)
Date: 1998-06-25 01:14
Priority: 3

 
 --

On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 12:08:07PM -0700, Philippe BARBELET wrote:
> Hi Debian friends,
>
> I have 2 ISA 3C509 ethernet cards in my PC.
>
> At boot time, the system says :
>
> 3c509: WARNING! Module load-time probing works reliably only for EISA
> and MCA bus!!
> loading device 'eth0'...
> eth0: 3c509 at 0x300 tag 1, 10baseT port, address  00 20 af 34 e8 44,
> IRQ 3.
> 3c509.c:1.07 6/15/95 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> My lilo.conf file is correctly configured :
>
>   append="ether=0,0,eth1"
>
> but the system doesn't see the second card. I think that the probing
> test doesn't work
> correctly.
>
> If I put just 1 card at a time, the card is always recognized.
IIRC, the kernel boot paramaters only work if the driver is compiled
into the
kernel. If you are compiling it as a module (eg default Debian setup)
you need
to edit /etc/conf.modules and add a line like:
``options 3c509 io=0xAAA,0xBBB irq=CC,DD''
where 0xAAA and CC are for eth0, and 0xBBB and DD are for eth1. Note
that I'm
not certain about the specific parameters, you might want to read the
driver
source if it dosen't work- alternatively, you could just recompile your
kernel
with the 3c509 driver in the kernel instead of a module.
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RE: lilo-password-dos

[Richardson,Anthony]

You just need to add a "password=XX" line to each OS stanza as
shown in the lilo.conf file below.  You are prompted for
a password after entering your OS selection at the lilo prompt:

prompt
compact
single-key
timeout=600
boot=/dev/hda
message=/boot/message

image=/vmlinuz
 label=Linux
 alias=1
 password=linpass
 root=/dev/hda7
 read-only

other=/dev/hda2
 label=Win95/WinNT
 alias=2
 password=winpass
 change
  partition=/dev/hda2
   activate
   set=dos16_big_normal
  partition=/dev/hda1
   deactivate
   set=dos16_big_hidden

other=/dev/hda1
 label=MSDOS/Win3.11
 alias=2
 password=dospass
 change
  partition=/dev/hda1
   activate
   set=dos16_big_normal
  partition=/dev/hda2
   set=dos16_big_hidden
   deactivate

Since the passwords are plain text, you want to make sure that only root   
has
read permission on your lilo.conf file. Note: I've got version 20 of LILO   
(because
I need the partition activation/deactivation and partition   
hiding/unhiding stuff
that is only present in version 20), but I believe passwords were   
supported in
the same manner in the version that comes with BO (version 19).

Tony Richardson

 -Original Message-
From: xsat [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 9:34 AM
To: debian-user
Subject: lilo-password-dos

Hy,
don't you know, how to passwordize
dos part of lilo - to make safer computer.
(I know, that the best is to formate dos,
but sometimes I need dos a bit).
Thak's a lot.
Martin S.





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Re: setuid problems

[David Z. Maze]

Oskar Liljeblad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
OL> Aren't setuid shell scripts supposed to be executed with EUID=1?
OL> They aren't on my system. I can't see what's wrong here...

setuid-root (and probably setuid-anything) scripts run with the uid of 
the caller; they ignore the setuid bit.

OL> Some users should be able to mount two specific DOS hdd drives,
OL> and the same users should also be able to call shutdown -r/-h now.
OL> I can't see any other way to do it.

You can make users able to mount specific drives by adding a "user"
option to their lines in /etc/fstab; see mount(8) for more details.
You can also use the sudo command to grant specific users permission
to do specific things as root; install the Debian sudo package and
read its documentation.

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Re: Linux & Compaq servers?

[Chea Prince]

don't have a server model in mind.  situation is this.  we (public domain,
inc. --pd) have been providing internet access to other nonprofits and
individual artists for the past seven years on a sun 4/280 running sun OS
4.1.1.  we now need to replace the sun -- which btw has run reliably 24/7
for all these years and only rarely required a reboot -- can't imagine
running anything but a 'unix' OS.  anyway, we have long been supporters of
free software/gnu/open source.  having looked over all the options we find
we are most closely aligned philosophically with debian/GNU.  i've already
installed debian on a 486 and pentium/166 and with the exception of some
choking on an onboard aic6160 scsi chip (append statements in LILO brought
no joy) all's well and i'm looking forward to upgrading to the 2.0beta. 
my interest in compaq is in trying to find a hardware DONOR.  i'm looking
for a company with a corporate giving program that will understand the
proposal i'm writing explaining our decision to go with Linux.  someone
mentioned to me (off this group) that compaq might be approachable. 
suggestion was that they were either shipping boxes with linux
pre-installed or shipping boxes without an OS on which unix/linux could be
installed.  i am looking for clarification on compatibility between debian
linux and compaq servers and on compaq's attitude toward linux in general
so i'll know what kind of spin to put in the proposal, or whether its even
worthwhile putting something in front of them at all.  if anyone happens
to know of a company thats particularly linux friendly, please let me
know. 

pd is a 501-(c)-3 so all donations are, of course, tax deductible.
please visit us at www.pd.org.  thanks for the response, OK.  

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> 
> On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Chea Prince wrote:
> 
> > 
> > is Compaq shipping servers with Linux installed?  is there an article
> > somewhere outlining Compaq + Linux?
> > 
> 
> what kind of server(s) are you interesting in?
> 
> we just installed rh 5.1 (sorry, debian) on 2CPU
> Compaq Proliant 2500. I have some docs and
> howtos. Feel free to ask
> 
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lilo-password-dos

[xsat]

Hy,
don't you know, how to passwordize
dos part of lilo - to make safer computer.
(I know, that the best is to formate dos,
but sometimes I need dos a bit).
Thak's a lot.
Martin S.





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Re: PNP

[Ed Cogburn]

Adam Greene wrote:
> 
> I've been out of the loop for a while and I am wondering if Plug and Play is
> yet in the kernel??
> 


PnP support is in the development kernel (currently 2.1.106) but not in 
the
stable kernel (currently 2.0.34).  There is a package called isapnptools
that can detect and initialize PnP cards at Linux bootup.  I've used it and
it works well (but has a somewhat difficult lisp-like config file).  Then I
discovered that my BIOS is PnP aware, and now use it to init my PnP sound
card.


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Re: smbmount /usr possible?

[Nathan C. Burnett]

I'm not sure about the package management issue but I would definely use
NFS in this case isntead of samba.  SMB is missing some important
filesystem features, such as permission bits and file ownership that you
generally really want to have on /usr.

Nate


On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Gunnar Strand wrote:

> Greetings fellow debian users,
>  
> I've recently gotten myself a little local network and have decided
> to run my old 486 as server for exporting its large HD by using samba.
> My new PC (the client) has both Linux and Win95 bootable + the old
> 1GB HD. Now, I want to minimize the Linux partition on my client and
> smbmount the /usr directory from my server. The target is to share
> every little file that is sharable to maximize the usage of the HD.
>  
> The best would be (I suppose) to have the same /usr mounted on both
> hosts. However, debian seems to use /usr to store vital installation
> information which will cause conflicts if I manage to smbmount that
> directory.
>  
> So, is it possible to only use dselect on my server to install programs
> I want to share between the hosts. And is it possible to share the
> entire /usr directory?
>  
> Regards,
>  
> /Gunnar

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Re: mouseman+ with linux

[Ed Cogburn]

Mike Orr wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 04:14:52PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Does anybody have any info on using the 4-button/1-wheel logitech
> > mouseman+ mouse with linux?
> 
> See Colas Nahaboo's X Mouse Wheel Scroll Page at
> http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/
> and also also /usr/doc/X11/README.mouse
> 
> You will have to spend some time tweaking the settings and your
> XF86Config file and making sure each button does what you want.  I have
> a Logitech MouseMan+, which I had set up specially so that buttons 2 and
> 3 are reversed, so that the right button does "paste" (same as GPM) and
> the bottom button does the other thing.  (I think I put a "pointer 1 3
> 2" line or such somewhere, but I can't find it in ~/.xsession or
> /etc/X11/XF86Config so I'm not sure where I put it.)


There is a 'pointer' command for Xmodmap, thats probably where you put 
it.


> Anyway, when I tried to set up the mouse wheel thing, my paste button
> moved to the bottom button, and the Debian Menu (which I use all the
> time) also moved to the bottom button.  This was intolerable, so I
> backed out the changes until I can find some time to get all the buttons
> right.
> 
> Also, the doc mentions that your applications receive the wheel-up and
> wheel-down events as two extra "buttons" but then makess you remap the
> button order because X only supports 5 buttons and you now have 6.  I'm
> not sure what the optimal settings should be, and how each application
> should be set up.
> 
> If you try this and it works, let me know.  Maybe we can put together a
> "Suggested Debian Solution" if no one else is working on it.
> 
> One advantage of Linux over Windows is that the Windows driver cannot
> distinguish between pressing the bottom button and pressing the wheel
> button.  I got one of these mice for my mother (she finds it better for
> her hand than the MS mice because of her carpal-tunnel syndrome).
> Anyway, she didn't want to do any dragging, and so we made the wheel
> button be a "start drag" command.  Unfortunately, the function got
> propagated to the bottom button as well.  But because she's used to
> resting her thumb right where the bottom button is, she was constantly
> pressing the bottom button inadvertently.  So we had to disable the
> bottom button, which meant we lost the wheel button and the "drag
> button" function as well.
> 
> >  What about gpm?
> 
> I haven't heard anything about GPM.
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Re: xhost

[Martin Bialasinski]

>> "GL" == 44 1785 248131  writes:

GL> I am trying to configure my debian 1.3.1 box to allow me to run X
GL> programs from 
GL> the root account when I am logged in as another user, this is because
GL> the root

GL> Also I have root's profile script set to export the DISPLAY environment
GL> variable when I do a 'su -' but does it matter if this is set if I am
GL> not in X
GL> but just using the console or telnet?  If it does then how can I get
GL> it to only
GL> be set when I 'su -' from within X?

ssh will do all the magic necessary. And it will encript and compress the
traffic, so it is secure as well.

Just install the package.

Ciao,
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smbmount /usr possible?

[Gunnar Strand]

Greetings fellow debian users,
 
I've recently gotten myself a little local network and have decided
to run my old 486 as server for exporting its large HD by using samba.
My new PC (the client) has both Linux and Win95 bootable + the old
1GB HD. Now, I want to minimize the Linux partition on my client and
smbmount the /usr directory from my server. The target is to share
every little file that is sharable to maximize the usage of the HD.
 
The best would be (I suppose) to have the same /usr mounted on both
hosts. However, debian seems to use /usr to store vital installation
information which will cause conflicts if I manage to smbmount that
directory.
 
So, is it possible to only use dselect on my server to install programs
I want to share between the hosts. And is it possible to share the
entire /usr directory?
 
Regards,
 
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Re: xhost

[fantomas]

-> I am trying to configure my debian 1.3.1 box to allow me to run X
-> programs from the root account when I am logged in as another user, this
-> is because the root account is locked so I have to 'su' to root, the
-> problem I am having is that before I 'su' to root I have to run xhost
-> .  Is there anyway to have this done automatically or do I have
-> to enter it in manually?

hmmm maybe "ssh localhost -l root" would help; but you must have ssh
installed which is not default in the US afaik. And i wouldn't recommend
allowing remote logins of root even via ssh.

I anyway would advise doing "xhost [EMAIL PROTECTED]" which is more secure -
"xhost localhost" would allow ANYONE to connect afaik.

-> Also I have root's profile script set to export the DISPLAY environment
-> variable when I do a 'su -' but does it matter if this is set if I am not
-> in X but just using the console or telnet?  If it does then how can I get
-> it to only be set when I 'su -' from within X?

maybe the best way would be
1. use script for su'ing which whould do xhost and su
2. use script which would copy .Xauthority and setup DISPLAY in root's
shell;

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Re: older debian release?

[Maarten Bezemer]

On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, peter wrote:

> hi, i've got what may seem a strange request.. i'm looking for an older
> release of debian. i have a laptop w/ only 2MB RAM and i've been told that
> one of the older releases of debian will run under 2MB.

well, I tried 1.3.1 with 2MB, but that's really really not done...
I even compiled a kernel with no support for anything, but is still
didn't quite boot... It was a 386/25 (I even don't know if it's a SX or
DX). I had to outcomment some lines in the source code of the kernel to
make it even boot the kernel... Eventually I had a kernel of about 500KB,
I had modified the boot script to enable swap before anything else, but
after some 45 minutes the syslogd was only just started...

> and just to stave off the usual responses i get, i know that i won't be
> able to do much with only 2MB, but i'm only interested in a base install
> anyway, i use my main machine for all the big stuff.

if you install 1.3.1 (at least if you succeed...) and try booting with
init=/bin/bash you might say you're running linux, but you can't run
much more than just a shell...

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but it seems this is the truth...

Regards,
 Maarten.


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Re: xhost

[Stefan Gödel]

If you always su to root from the same account (as i do), you can
simply create a symbolic link from /root/.Xauthority to
/home/xyz/.Xauthority (with xyz being your user name).

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setuid problems

[Oskar Liljeblad]

Aren't setuid shell scripts supposed to be executed with EUID=1?
They aren't on my system. I can't see what's wrong here...

oskar:~$ id
uid=1000(usel) gid=1000(usel) groups=1000(usel)
oskar:~$ cat /usr/local/bin/suidtest
#!/bin/sh
echo uid=$UID euid=$EUID
oskar:~$ ls -l /usr/local/bin/suidtest
-rwsrwxr-x   1 root root   35 Jun 25 12:31
/usr/local/bin/suidtest*
oskar:~$ /usr/local/bin/suidtest
uid=1000 euid=1000
oskar:~$

Some users should be able to mount two specific DOS hdd drives,
and the same users should also be able to call shutdown -r/-h now.
I can't see any other way to do it.

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Re: Postgres, php question

[Gergely Madarasz]

On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 07:51:19AM -0400, Paul McDermott wrote:
> > hello my debian user friends,  I've installed Postgres.deb, php3.deb,
> > apache.deb and www-pgsql from the slink area. I've done the postgres
> > tutorial and it was great.  Now i want to start on makeing a web interface
> > for a database i put together.  I read through the documentation, but i am
> > confused.  Is there a tutorial for the php3 program?  If so where can i

Sorry, I missed the original posting. If you want to use php3 with
postgres, you need the php3-pgsql package too, and you dont need
www-pgsql. There are some examples for php in /usr/doc/php3/examples
and there is lots of documentation in the php3-doc package. Read
README.Debian too, it explains you how to use the postgresql functions in
php3 scripts.

Greg (php3 maintainer)

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xhost

[Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131]

Hi all,

I am trying to configure my debian 1.3.1 box to allow me to run X programs from
the root account when I am logged in as another user, this is because the root
account is locked so I have to 'su' to root, the problem I am having is that
before I 'su' to root I have to run xhost .  Is there anyway to have
this done automatically or do I have to enter it in manually?

Also I have root's profile script set to export the DISPLAY environment
variable when I do a 'su -' but does it matter if this is set if I am not in X
but just using the console or telnet?  If it does then how can I get it to only
be set when I 'su -' from within X?

Regards

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Re: Swapping Hard Drives on the fly

[Ian Eure]

On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 11:29:38PM -0700, Damon Muller wrote:
> Hey Folks,
> 
> I have a 1.2G IDE HD that I have in a removable drive cady on my Bo
> system. It's not a 'hot-swap' drive or anything sophisticated like that,
> and on my Windoze system I wouldn't have even considered pulling it out
> while the PC was running.
> 
> However, under Linux, shouldn't I just be able to unmount or mount the
> drive at will?  Would that damage or confuse anything? Or possibly put
> in the drive once I have booted without it?
> 
> Anyone have a similar setup?
Hotswapping devices not intended for it is a Bad Thing(tm). However, if you are
determined... I have safely hot-swapped network/sound/serial boards under Linux
with no problems, BUT that does not mean it is safe. Chances are you will fry
something. I do _NOT_ recommend that you even attempt a hot-swap of an IDE
device. If you are going to hotswap, you _must_ turn off the driver for it
first, ie rmmod it. Since you are booting off an IDE device, it is compiled in
the kernel, and you can't rmmod it- so when you disconnect the drive, the kernel
will complain _loudly_. I tried it once, just to see- ended up hard resetting
my box.

If you wanted a hot-swappable setup, you might try setting up some sort of
ramdisk root fs with the ide driver compiled as a module and all your important
stuff (/usr, /var etc) mounted off your ide drive, you could then drop to single
user mode, umount the ide devices, rmmod the driver and maybe have a chance.


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man -k isn't working on recent hamm

[Dr. Michael Grimm]

Hi,

I'm running a hamm system from June, 23rd and have problems with "man -k".

Both relevant packages, man-db_2.3.10-65.deb and manpages_1.19-1.deb, are
installed correctly, that's at least what "dpkg -s" is telling me. I can
access every manpage in /usr/man/..., but I can't use "man -k", it won't
find a single match.

According to the man page of mandb one should use "mandb --create" to
create an index file (index.db ?? out of memory) in /var/catman/...
If I use this command mandb parses through all man directories (my
MANPATH is recognized correctly) but tells me at the end, that there
are 0 man pages to update !!! And I can't find any index file afterwards.

Am I thinking or doing something wrong ???

Any help is highly appreciated !

Thank's,

Michael

P.S. I'm not subscribed to debian-user, so could you CC any reply to
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Files missing on ftp-mirrors

[Joerg Friedrich]

There are many files missing on ftp.de.debian.org and ftp.at.debian.org

i.e. 

dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xfnt100_3.3.2.2-1.deb
dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/devel/kernel-source-2.0.34_2.0.34-2.deb
dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xfntscl_3.3.2.2-1.deb
dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xfntbig_3.3.2.2-1.deb
dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xbooks_3.3.2.2-1.deb
dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/doc/kernel-doc-2.0.34_2.0.34-2.deb
dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xfntbase_3.3.2.2-1.deb
dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xfnt75_3.3.2.2-1.deb
dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xfntpex_3.3.2.2-1.deb



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Re: Linux & Compaq servers?

[kriol]

Hi, Chea

On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Chea Prince wrote:

> 
> is Compaq shipping servers with Linux installed?  is there an article
> somewhere outlining Compaq + Linux?
> 

what kind of server(s) are you interesting in?

we just installed rh 5.1 (sorry, debian) on 2CPU
Compaq Proliant 2500. I have some docs and
howtos. Feel free to ask

regards

OK


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Re: Two 'gcc's? Yea or Nay?

[Anthony Fok]

On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 11:47:27PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote:
> 
> I would like to put egcs on this Debian 1.3 system (which, with the imminent
> release of 2.0 CD's will most likely become my next "experimental" victim) but
> it now occurs to me to ask what caveats I should observe upon accomplishing
> that.
> 
> Should I rename /usr/bin/gcc (the GNU gcc) and then put a symlink in that dir
> to point to /usr/local/bin/gcc? Perhaps there are other changes I ought to
> make?

Well, if you are patient (to wait for the CD), or if you don't mind
downloading Debian 2.0 Beta:  Debian 2.0 Beta already comes with both gcc
and egcs.  ;-)  I'm lazy, so I never compile egcs.  ;-)  When I want to use
egcs instead of gcc, I just use "CC=egcc".  :-)

  $ ls -l /usr/bin/egcc /usr/bin/gcc
  -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root60320 Jun 17 03:04 /usr/bin/egcc*
  -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root49460 Jun 15 00:48 /usr/bin/gcc*

Cheers,

Anthony

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Re: /etc/init.d/boot message?

[Lindsay Allen]

On 25 Jun 1998, Brederlow wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > On 23 Jun, BARBELET Philippe wrote:
> 
> > But I think people want an exact list of the output that is generated
> > after the kernel is done and the init scripts have started.  So this is
> > not the 'complete' solution.

[snip]


> Starting remote services . [failed]

A bit more info would be nice.  I for one would be quite happy just to
have a record of what has been printed on the screen.

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Re: Swapping Hard Drives on the fly

[Brederlow]

Damon Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hey Folks,
> 
> I have a 1.2G IDE HD that I have in a removable drive cady on my Bo
> system. It's not a 'hot-swap' drive or anything sophisticated like that,
> and on my Windoze system I wouldn't have even considered pulling it out
> while the PC was running.
> 
> However, under Linux, shouldn't I just be able to unmount or mount the
> drive at will?  Would that damage or confuse anything? Or possibly put
> in the drive once I have booted without it?
> 
> Anyone have a similar setup?

Linux can handle Hot-puging of harddrives and nearly any other
hardware, BUT:

Forget it with IDE. IDE drives that don't get power most likely crash
your ide bus (try booting with an unpowered drive conected).

With scsi you can send a commando to the scsi kernel thread to create
or kill a device (after unmounting all partitions on it). After that
you can 99.99% savely remove the drive. You should not do that while
large amounts of data are transfered over the scsi bus, but generally
its save.

You can try the same with ide, but I think the bus will crash and then 
your without any ide drive until reboot.

May the Source be with you.
Mrvn


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Re: Installing 95 & NT w/out frying Linux. [Important]

[Brederlow]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Hi,
> I have heard some ppl on the list frying their Linux installations 
> when
> installing 95/NT. So can someone please instruct me as to a -safe- way of
> removing & installing 95 & NT.

Win95 should be fine, but WinNT will fry your boot menu. Make a
bootdisk for your Linux and reinstall the Linux bootloader into the
eNTe one after installing NT. Apart from that just be carefull not to
format the wrong drives.

May the Source be with you.
Mrvn


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Re: Need help running man on newly installed Debian system

[Brederlow]

"Fungame Game" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have recently installed Debian using the instructions on the web site. 
> (I used a 5 floppy set). Everything seems to work fine. But man is 
> missing (or so I think). I cannot access the manpages (am i doing it 
> incorrectly by using man?) and whatis also doesnt work. I have combed 
> the distributions archive and found nothing as far as man. Does anyone 
> know what I need to do, or what I am doing wrong.
> 
> Thanks,
> Fungame

Did you run dselect at least once? The base only includes the realy
neccessary packages, but alls the normal packages like man are
preselected in dselect. If you start it, set the access, do a update,
then a select and just quit that again and the install you should get
those.

Alternatively: apt-get install man-db

May the Source be with you.
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Re: /etc/init.d/boot message?

[Brederlow]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> On 23 Jun, BARBELET Philippe wrote:

> But I think people want an exact list of the output that is generated
> after the kernel is done and the init scripts have started.  So this is
> not the 'complete' solution.

> This is just a stab in the dark. But could something like this be done
> in /etc/inittab?

> How about this:

>  [snip]
>  si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS 2>&1 | tee --append /var/log/rcS.log

>  [snip]
>  l0:0:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 0 2>&1 | tee --append /var/log/rc0.log
>  l1:1:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 1 2>&1 | tee --append /var/log/rc1.log
>  l2:2:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 2 2>&1 | tee --append /var/log/rc2.log
>  l3:3:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 3 2>&1 | tee --append /var/log/rc3.log
>  l4:4:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 4 2>&1 | tee --append /var/log/rc4.log
>  l5:5:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 5 2>&1 | tee --append /var/log/rc5.log
>  l6:6:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 6 2>&1 | tee --append /var/log/rc6.log
> 

> I don't know I just thought this. I haven't tried it but maybe someone
> that understands the startup scripts better can flame me!

> Disclaimer:  I don't know if this will work and have not tried it so
> don't blame me if it breaks your system.  You have been warned!

> Brian

I have bootet some HPux systems here at the Univiersity and I realy
liked the way they boot:
After the kernel is loaded you get a list of things to be done. All
have a [.] at the end. Now the bootprocedure goes from top to
bottom and fills in what its doing into that list.
Heres an example made up to explain what I mean:

...
Running filesystem check . [  ok  ]
Mounting local filesystems ... [  ok  ]
Starting remote services . [failed]
Synchronysing time ... [ wait ]
Starting xdm   [..]
...

The status in [...] is colored. OK is green, wait and similar are
yellow, failed will be red I think.

I would like to implement a similar thing for Linux. My programm would 
check the last boot sequence for output and create a menu
acordingly (this could be done on roots demand or after every
boot). Also the boot messages would go to another console (like
console 8) and to a logfile.

What do you think of this?

May the Source be with you.
Mrvn

PS: We could also show some ansi or gfx penguin in the corner during
boot. This wont look as bad as the old one, because the screen wont be 
scrolling.


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Re: Isn't cc the default compiler?

[Steve Lamb]

On 25 Jun 1998 10:24:02 +0200, Brederlow wrote:

>I compiled a lot of packages on my system and often I see that
>programms don't use cc as their compiler. Thus they don't use
>/etc/alternatives/cc.

>Unless somebody tells me a good reason for not using cc I will open
>bugs against any Packages that just uses gcc for fun. I know that some 
>Packages need gcc explicitly, but that should be a realy small number.

Uhm, aside from the fact that gcc is now the de facto standard and cc is
considered an aniquated POS?


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Re: pppd 2.3 oddity. Help me, dammit! :)

[Martin Bialasinski]

>> "DH" == Dale Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

DH> I dialin to a provider and authenticate via PAP. This was fine up until I
DH> upgraded ppp. It doesn't authenticate anymore. I've tried it on other
DH> providers and the same story... except when I dial into another hamm box.
DH> Everything's fine then. It works like a charm.

DH> # dpkg -l |grep ppp
DH> ii  ppp 2.3.5-2Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon.
DH> ii  ppp-pam 2.3.5-2Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon 

DH> Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="username" 
password="password"]
DH> Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x49bd1d10]
DH> Jun 25 14:25:58 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 ""]

AuthAck, so Authentication worked all right.

DH> Jun 25 14:25:58 apathy pppd[837]: Remote message: 
DH> Jun 25 14:26:25 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x084d]
DH> Jun 25 14:26:25 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0x49bd1d10]

Looks like it is sending the wrong "magic". Sorry, don't know what this
is. Maybe you could deinstall ppp-pam and retry.

Ciao,
Martin


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DO NOT UPGRADE TO PLAN 1.6.1-4.2 ! USE -5

[Yann Dirson]

Sorry for this, but I made a very bad mistake in -4.2, which will just
unconditionally overwrite you netplan-acl file with an empty one.

Please get 1.6.1-5 instead (in Incoming for now, maybe at its
mirrors), it has this problem fixed.

Sorry for the inconvenience - I sincerely hope nobody suffered from
this.

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Re: xterm-debian?

[jdassen]

On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 04:05:57PM -0400, Ossama Othman wrote:
> What's the difference between a standard xterm and a xterm-debian
> terminfo/termcap entry?

> It's easy enough to do a "set term=xterm" but I really don't want to keep
> doing that.  Why did Debian create their own terminfo/cap entry and why
> was such a change necessary?

http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/22/22668.html

HTH,
Ray
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Swapping Hard Drives on the fly

[Damon Muller]

Hey Folks,

I have a 1.2G IDE HD that I have in a removable drive cady on my Bo
system. It's not a 'hot-swap' drive or anything sophisticated like that,
and on my Windoze system I wouldn't have even considered pulling it out
while the PC was running.

However, under Linux, shouldn't I just be able to unmount or mount the
drive at will?  Would that damage or confuse anything? Or possibly put
in the drive once I have booted without it?

Anyone have a similar setup?

damon

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How do I get exim to work?

[Johann Spies]

Hallo,

After a discussion on this list some time ago on exim, I decided to try
out exim once again and once again I could not get it to work.

I use Debian 1.3.1.

I have a dialup system and use fetchmail an procmail normally with smail.

After running eximconfig and answering the questions as close as possible
to that of smailconfig, I tried it out.

The first effort to get mail from the ISP failed with the message that
/etc/exim.conf has the wrong owner, group or permissions.  Then I changed
the permissions to  644 and tried again. Here is a copy of what appeared
on the screen:

Script started on Thu Jun 25 08:27:13 1998
[EMAIL PROTECTED](1)$ ses
/home/jhspies/.netrc:1: warning: found "login" before any host names
/home/jhspies/.netrc:2: warning: found "password" before any host names
fetchmail: 3.8.0 querying alpha.futurenet.co.za (protocol POP3) at Thu Jun 25 
08:28:01 1998
popclient: POP3< +OK IMS POP3 Server 0.87 Ready <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
popclient: POP3> USER jhspies
popclient: POP3< +OK jhspies is welcome here
popclient: POP3> PASS *
popclient: POP3< +OK jhspies's mailbox has 9 message(s) (86582 octets)
popclient: POP3> STAT
popclient: POP3< +OK 9 86582
popclient: POP3> LAST
popclient: POP3< +OK 0
popclient: 9 messages at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
popclient: POP3> RETR 1
popclient: POP3< +OK 5698 octets
reading message 1 (5698 bytes)
popclient: SMTP connect to (null) failed
popclient: POP3> QUIT
popclient: POP3< -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
popclient: SMTP transaction error while fetching from alpha.futurenet.co.za
fetchmail: normal termination, status 9
ppp0 link terminated

1998-06-25 08:28:04 Exim configuration file /etc/exim.conf has the wrong
owner, group, or mode
--
At this stage I changed the permissions of /etc/exim.conf to 644 and tried
again with the following result:

/home/jhspies/.netrc:1: warning: found "login" before any host names
/home/jhspies/.netrc:2: warning: found "password" before any host names
fetchmail: 3.8.0 querying alpha.futurenet.co.za (protocol POP3) at Thu Jun 25 
08:30:43 1998
popclient: POP3< +OK IMS POP3 Server 0.87 Ready <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
popclient: POP3> USER jhspies
popclient: POP3< +OK jhspies is welcome here
popclient: POP3> PASS *
popclient: POP3< +OK jhspies's mailbox has 9 message(s) (86582 octets)
popclient: POP3> STAT
popclient: POP3< +OK 9 86582
popclient: POP3> LAST
popclient: POP3< +OK 0
popclient: 9 messages at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
popclient: POP3> RETR 1
popclient: POP3< +OK 5698 octets
reading message 1 (5698 bytes)
popclient: SMTP connect to (null) failed
popclient: POP3> QUIT
popclient: POP3< -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
popclient: SMTP transaction error while fetching from alpha.futurenet.co.za
fetchmail: normal termination, status 9
ppp0 link terminated
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About two years ago, when I was a total newcomer to Linux, I could install
smail and use it.  I have now after about 6 efforts not be able to install
exim successfully.

Can somebody help me, please?  

In the mean time, I am going back to smail now.

Johann.

PS.  When I tried to send this message I got the message 

[Error sending: 421 SMTP connection went away!]


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Re: changing module parameters

[Mike Schmitz]

On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 01:52:11AM -0400, Hank Fay wrote:
> Oops -- the info on modules to be loaded was in /etc/modules -- but no info
> on the parameters being passed.

You want /etc/conf.modules.
my ne otions line is:

options ne io=0x340
 

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Re: speed improvements for a low end system

[Jason Gunthorpe]

On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

> I want to remove all processes that take lots of cpu time and memory. 
> Recompiling the kernel is also something I'm interested in -- what takes
> cpu time/memory in the kernel?  Experimenting with this is too slow; it
> takes several hours to recompile! 

Then recompile it on your fast machine and use the kernel-package to ship
it over :> Remove -everything- you don't need to clear off space. A big
kernel needs big ram.
 
You can get better telnet speed by removing tcpd and look at boa for http.

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Re: printing man pages

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,
>>"Alex" ==   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 >> Can anyone explain me how can i print a man page? Is there any utility
 >> program for this?

 Alex> You may convert the source of the man page to postscript file
 Alex> and then print it, like:

 Alex> zcat /usr/man/man1/ls.1.gz  | groff -tmandoc -T ps > ls.ps

You can do this directly using man, for example,
__> man -Tdvi foo.1x > ./foo.1x.dvi
__> man -Tps man | lpr

   -T device, --troff-device [=device]
  This option is used to change  groff  (or  possibly
  troff's)  output  to be suitable for a device other
  than the default.  It implies -t.   Examples  (pro­
  vided with Groff-1.09) include dvi, latin1, X75 and
  X100.

manoj
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RE: changing module parameters

[Hank Fay]

Oops -- the info on modules to be loaded was in /etc/modules -- but no info
on the parameters being passed.



-Original Message-
From: Hank Fay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 1:36 AM
To: Debian-User (E-mail)
Subject: changing module parameters


The Debian install (from floppies; CD is in the mail, couldn't wait )
went smoothly; a lot more smoothly than RedHat.  The only hitch was that the
ethernet was not installed correctly until the second try, and the first
try's settings were stuck in some file (Running... says look for an .RC
file, but none I can find has the settings in it), which I can't find.  I
know the correct settings, but would appreciate being pointed toward the
file.

I guess I could do it at the boot: prompt, but I'd really like to find the
file and change it once and for-all.  I know the module (ne) and can see it
listed in lilo.conf, but can't find where the settings are stored.

The grand scheme of things is to FTP the rest of the stuff; this being an
interesting way to create a cable-modem IP Masquerade/Diald (1-way cable
modem, requires regular modem in addition) box for the network, which will
eventually FTP through _it_. 

Compliments to the folks who wrote the setup.  The network setup, in
particular, is much clearer than RedHat 5.1.  Also the installation of
modules, and explanation of parameters, is much clearer (in fact, in the
case of MCD and MCDX, clearer than the docs in the modules section of the
installation doc at Sunsite).

TIA,

Hank Fay



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changing module parameters

[Hank Fay]

The Debian install (from floppies; CD is in the mail, couldn't wait )
went smoothly; a lot more smoothly than RedHat.  The only hitch was that the
ethernet was not installed correctly until the second try, and the first
try's settings were stuck in some file (Running... says look for an .RC
file, but none I can find has the settings in it), which I can't find.  I
know the correct settings, but would appreciate being pointed toward the
file.

I guess I could do it at the boot: prompt, but I'd really like to find the
file and change it once and for-all.  I know the module (ne) and can see it
listed in lilo.conf, but can't find where the settings are stored.

The grand scheme of things is to FTP the rest of the stuff; this being an
interesting way to create a cable-modem IP Masquerade/Diald (1-way cable
modem, requires regular modem in addition) box for the network, which will
eventually FTP through _it_. 

Compliments to the folks who wrote the setup.  The network setup, in
particular, is much clearer than RedHat 5.1.  Also the installation of
modules, and explanation of parameters, is much clearer (in fact, in the
case of MCD and MCDX, clearer than the docs in the modules section of the
installation doc at Sunsite).

TIA,

Hank Fay



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pppd 2.3 oddity. Help me, dammit! :)

[Dale Harrison]

Howdy,

I recently [ie, 6am this morning] upgraded one of my bo boxes to hamm, via
apt-get [which I must say is incredibly cool.. ]

Everything seems ok, except for ppp. It doesn't want to work anymore. I'd be
happy if that were the end of the story, it'd mean that I was doing
something wrong. See, the problem is, it doesn't work on _some_ providers.

A little detail..

I dialin to a provider and authenticate via PAP. This was fine up until I
upgraded ppp. It doesn't authenticate anymore. I've tried it on other
providers and the same story... except when I dial into another hamm box.
Everything's fine then. It works like a charm.

# dpkg -l |grep ppp
ii  ppp 2.3.5-2Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon.
ii  ppp-pam 2.3.5-2Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon with

Heres what the logs have to say (sorry, this is gunna have to be verbose)

[non-hamm box]

Jun 25 14:25:18 apathy pppd[837]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
Jun 25 14:25:20 apathy chat[838]: abort on (BUSY)
Jun 25 14:25:20 apathy chat[838]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
Jun 25 14:25:20 apathy chat[838]: abort on (VOICE)
Jun 25 14:25:20 apathy chat[838]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
Jun 25 14:25:20 apathy chat[838]: send (ATDT18319577^M)
Jun 25 14:25:20 apathy chat[838]: expect (CONNECT)
Jun 25 14:25:20 apathy chat[838]: %-u^M

*** chat seems to spit out random chars like above, but thats another story
*** I suspect..

Jun 25 14:25:45 apathy chat[838]: ATDT18319577^M^M
Jun 25 14:25:45 apathy chat[838]: CONNECT
Jun 25 14:25:45 apathy chat[838]:  -- got it 
Jun 25 14:25:45 apathy chat[838]: send (^M)
Jun 25 14:25:45 apathy pppd[837]: Serial connection established.
Jun 25 14:25:46 apathy pppd[837]: Using interface ppp0
Jun 25 14:25:46 apathy pppd[837]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
Jun 25 14:25:46 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ]
Jun 25 14:25:49 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ]
Jun 25 14:25:49 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x3  
   ]
Jun 25 14:25:49 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x3  
   ]
Jun 25 14:25:52 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4  
   ]
Jun 25 14:25:52 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x4  
   ]
Jun 25 14:25:52 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ]
Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ]
Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x5  
   ]
Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x5  
   ]
Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 ]
Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x084d]
Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="username" 
password="password"]
Jun 25 14:25:55 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x49bd1d10]
Jun 25 14:25:58 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 ""]
Jun 25 14:25:58 apathy pppd[837]: Remote message: 
Jun 25 14:26:25 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x084d]
Jun 25 14:26:25 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0x49bd1d10]
Jun 25 14:26:55 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x2 magic=0x084d]
Jun 25 14:26:55 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x2 magic=0x49bd1d10]
Jun 25 14:27:25 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x3 magic=0x084d]
Jun 25 14:27:25 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x3 magic=0x49bd1d10]
Jun 25 14:27:55 apathy pppd[837]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x6]
Jun 25 14:27:55 apathy pppd[837]: LCP terminated by peer
Jun 25 14:27:55 apathy pppd[837]: sent [LCP TermAck id=0x6]
Jun 25 14:27:55 apathy pppd[837]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Jun 25 14:27:55 apathy pppd[837]: Modem hangup
Jun 25 14:27:55 apathy pppd[837]: Connection terminated.

This happens with every single provider, with the exception of hamm boxes,
which looks like this:

[hamm box]

Jun 25 13:46:52 apathy pppd[639]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
Jun 25 13:46:52 apathy pppd[639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ]
Jun 25 13:46:53 apathy pppd[639]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1]
Jun 25 13:46:53 apathy pppd[639]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x1]
Jun 25 13:46:55 apathy pppd[639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ]
Jun 25 13:46:55 apathy pppd[639]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 ]
Jun 25 13:46:55 apathy pppd[639]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0xfffb]
Jun 25 13:46:55 apathy pppd[639]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="user" 
password="password"]
Jun 25 13:46:55 apathy pppd[639]: rcvd [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="tombston" 
password=""]

*** why am I receiving a user request from the other end? fwiw, that
*** username only ever appears in an _OLD_ pap-secrets file.. any takers?

Jun 25 13:46:55 apathy pppd[639]: sent [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 "Login ok"]
Jun 25 13:46:56 apathy pppd[639]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x0382]
Jun 25 13:46:56 apathy pppd[639]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 "Success"]
Jun 25 13:46:56 apathy pppd[639]: Remote message: Success
Jun 25 13:46:56 apathy pppd[639]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1  
]
... etc.


pap-secrets outbound connections is setup as

user*   password

Re: Partitioning/Dual Booting

[Oliver Elphick]

"M. Phillips" wrote:
  >I'm a newby to the whole Linux/GNU/Debian system, being a long-time MS
  >devotee, and although I am very close to being sold on getting it, I have a
  >couple of questions to clear up first.
  >
  >1: In the FAQ, section 3.4
  > states that one
  >should partition a 1.6 GB hard disk with the following partitions:
  >"
  >•30 MBytes for the root directory (/) 
  >•450 MBytes for /usr 
  >•50 MBytes for swap space 
  >•1000 MBytes for home directories (some of this could be used for
  >/usr/local/) 
  >•0 MBytes for /tmp; make /tmp a symbolic link to /var/tmp 
  >•40 MBytes for /var "
  >
  >Pardon my ignorance, or mayhaps it's the ambiguity of the whole section,
  >but does this mean I need five separate partitions on the single disk, or
  >(more likely, methinks) does it mean that the single partition consists of
  >1570 MBytes?  Any clarification would be most appreciated.
  >
This is indeed 5 partitions.  The swap partition is used as a runtime
memory extension; the other partitions separate out parts of the directory
tree to limit the extent of damage in case of any disaster.  If one
filesystem gets corrupted, the others should still be OK.
  >
  >
  >Also, seeing as how I _am_ new to the idea, I would very much like to
  >perform a dual boot between Win95/MS-DOS, and Debian/GNU Linux operating
  >systems.  Seems like somewhere in the dark recesses of the PC World
  >archives there's a miniscule article about dual-booting between 2 or more
  >OSes, but I've since lost/given away the issue, and I'd like to hear it
  >from a user more experienced than myself in the area.

When you install Debian, you can get dual booting by using LILO.  This is
my config file (/etc/lilo.conf):

boot=/dev/hda3
root=/dev/hda3
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=50
# Linux - 2.0.32
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.32
  label=linux
  append="mem=96m aic7xxx=ultra"
  read-only
# Linux - 2.0.33
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.33
  label=linux2033
  append="mem=96m aic7xxx=ultra"
  read-only
# Win 95
other=/dev/hda1
  label=w95

This particular configuration allows me to boot Linux with either of two
kernel versions; it also allows for Windows95.

Important! 

  1  After changing /etc/lilo.conf, and especially after changing the
 kernel, you must run /sbin/lilo to update the boot map.

  2  Install any Microsoft product first; Microsoft has no respect for the
 presence of any other OS and is liable to overwrite the boot sector.

  3  Make sure you have a rescue floppy or a bootable CD.

If you don't want to risk using LILO you can boot Linux from inside DOS
with LOADLIN.EXE.

-- 
Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Isle of Wight  http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
   PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1
 
 "Honor thy father and mother; which is the first  
  commandment with promise; That it may be well with 
  thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth."
  Ephesians 6:2,3 



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