date:20020222

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:57:54PM -0500, Stephen Nosal wrote:
| Folks -
| 
| I recently got Time Warner Road Runner installed. It seems to be a
| straight forward dhcp install but I'm having a problem getting
| dh-client running. I've manageed to make it work with the same box
| running NT, as well as an old Macintosh I have, so I'm pretty sure
| it's my dhcp setup that's causing the problem (currently it runs
| pppoe/dsl just fine)

If you're using PPPoE I don't think you need DHCP at all.
 
| I've been through the man pages and the dhcpcd how-to and I think
| I've covered the basics, but when I run dhclient (or dhclient eth1)
| I get no connectivity, no messages, nothing. I'm currently at a loss
| as to where to look.

dh-client and dhcpcd are two totally different DHCP implementations.

| Can anyone point me in the right direction? I'm quite frustrated at
| this point in time trying doing something that should be so simple
| I'm sure I've been hit with the stupid stick.

DHCP is a network-layer thing.  If the DHCP server is set up correctly
(not in your control and it probably is) and the link and physical
layers work, there should be no problems.

For me (both systems I use) I simply have :

|   iface eth1 inet dhcp

in the interfaces file.  Then I run 'ifup eth1' and it gets an IP from
the server.

| My dhclient.conf file is blank.

I didn't need to configure dh-client at all.  The default
dhclient.conf has a whole bunch of stuff, but it is all commented out.

Check your syslog.  There should be stuff like

Feb 22 18:45:49 dman dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPREQUEST on eth1 to 64.213.112.1 port 67
Feb 22 18:45:49 dman dhcpd-2.2.x: DHCPREQUEST for 64.213.114.152 from 
00:04:5a:4f:30:67 via eth1
Feb 22 18:45:49 dman dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPACK from 64.213.112.1
Feb 22 18:45:49 dman dhclient-2.2.x: bound to 64.213.114.152 -- renewal in 
32400 seconds.

in it.

(actually, ignore that second line, it is because I run a dhcp server
also, but it ignores requests for that interface, the issue is that
broadcast packets are received by all hosts on the network segment)

HTH,
-D

-- 

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but a faithful man who can find?
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Re: apt error

2002-02-22 Thread Jerome Acks Jr

On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 12:37:42PM -0500, Igor Gueths wrote:
> Hi. If this message, or something similar, has been posted by me, I 
> appologize for the re-post. I am having a problem installing the source tree 
> in 2.2r5 stable. I am a blind user, and am running Speakup, which is a screen 
> review package. The reason I am mentioning this is because if anyone sends me 
> any sollutions that involve using graphical methods, I won't be able to 
> properly use them. Anyway, when I use apt-cdrom, I get the following error: 
> handler silently failed. I am using the following syntax: apt-cdrom add -a
> 
> I get a prompt to insert my source Cd, and it goes through the process of 
> scanning for the Cd label and any package/source indexes. It is finding the 4 
> source index files that are on the Cd, but it doesn't seem to be copying 
> them. Note that this error only comes up when trying to install the source 
> tree, not any packages from Cds. When I try to instal packages from Cdroms, 
> everything works fine. Could I have overlooked something in terms of 
> configuring Apt? Any help would be greatly apreciated. Thanks in advance! 
> 

When you ran apt-cdrom, did you get any new entries at all in
/etc/apt/sources.list for the source tree?

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RE: php4 installtion

2002-02-22 Thread Jonathan Tabaco









Well who knows what caused my issue.

I reformatted and did the entire install
from scratch and all works well.

 

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Tabaco
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:40 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: php4 installtion

 

I am attempting to install/configure
php4

 

When I uncomment the loadmodule line
for the php4 module I get VM: killing process apache

 

Anybody know why?

 

 I can’t find anything on any of the
sites….

 

 

Thanks in advance for any help,

 

Jon Tabaco

scp question

2002-02-22 Thread Cheryl Homiak

I have two computers running debian linux; I can run ssh from one to the
other, either way, with no problem. One is a ppp connection and the other
is cable-modem. The cable-modem's address may not be static but hasn't
ever changed as far as I know and the ppp connection's ip addresses are
obtainable by ifconfig each time.
I have no problem running ssh, but frequently when i try to run scp using
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 9substituting those values) I get:
permission denied: publickeyPasswordKeyboard-interactive

What does this mean?
TIA.

-- 
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Aztech MM pro 16

2002-02-22 Thread Antonio Alberto Lobato



Hi all!


Please, how do I configure (which modules, conf. programs, etc...) a
sound card Aztech MM pro 16 ?





Thanks
Tom

dh-client setup problems

2002-02-22 Thread Stephen Nosal

Folks -

I recently got Time Warner Road Runner installed. It seems to be a straight 
forward dhcp install but I'm having a problem getting dh-client running. I've 
manageed to make it work with the same box running NT, as well as an old 
Macintosh I have, so I'm pretty sure it's my dhcp setup that's causing the 
problem (currently it runs pppoe/dsl just fine)

I've been through the man pages and the dhcpcd how-to and I think I've covered 
the basics, but when I run dhclient (or dhclient eth1) I get no connectivity, 
no messages, nothing. I'm currently at a loss as to where to look.

Can anyone point me in the right direction? I'm quite frustrated at this point 
in time trying doing something that should be so simple I'm sure I've been hit 
with the stupid stick.

Thanks.

- Steve
  Stephen Nosal
  New York, NY

System details:
kernel 2.2.17
mostly unstable packages
dhcp-client p15-7 (testing)
Dell PIII 500 256MB

here's my /etc/network/interfaces file:
# /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
# The loopback interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The first network card
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
  address 192.168.0.1
  netmask 255.255.255.0
  network 192.168.0.0
  broadcast 192.168.0.255
# The second network card - connected to ISP modem
auto eth1
iface eth1 inet dhcp

My dhclient.conf file is blank.

I had a few problems with IPMASQ  so I've been disabling it during initial 
setup with /etc/init.d/ipmasq stop. ipchains -L returns:
Chain input (policy ACCEPT):
Chain forward (policy DENY):
Chain output (policy ACCEPT):

Aztech MM pro 16

2002-02-22 Thread tomlobato

 

Hi all! 


Please, how do I configure (which modules, conf. programs, etc...) a 
sound card Aztech MM pro 16 ? 





Thanks 
Tom 

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Re: firewall: linux vs. freebsd

2002-02-22 Thread Tim Kelley

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 22:18:03 -0500
timothy bauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well BSD had some advantages prior to 2.4/netfiler.  Linux makes a pretty
great firewall these days.  However, I have heard ipfilter (BSD) is easier to
understand than iptables (Linux).  Couldn't tell you myself.  

> I am planning on building a firewall
> here. There is a lot of hype about
> Freebsd being great for firewalls,
> and books regarding Linux firewalls.
> 
> I love Linux, but I believe in
> finding the best solution for a
> problem. My question is not which OS
> is better for a firewall, but which
> one you would use (or do use).
> 
> Thank you for your help!
> (==timothy==)
> 
> "All software sucks. Linux sucks less."
> 
> 
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Re: firewall: linux vs. freebsd

2002-02-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 23-Feb-2002 timothy bauscher wrote:
> I am planning on building a firewall
> here. There is a lot of hype about
> Freebsd being great for firewalls,
> and books regarding Linux firewalls.
> 
> I love Linux, but I believe in
> finding the best solution for a
> problem. My question is not which OS
> is better for a firewall, but which
> one you would use (or do use).
> 

In the end either works about the same.  Do a Debian install and skip the
package selection.  You then remove portmapper and config exim to not listen
for mail.  After that you just install the needed packages for your setup
(masquerading, etc.) and compile a fresh kernel.

Re: firewall: linux vs. freebsd


hiya

use the distro you know how to harden to your likings...
and can tweek and fix and debug if something happens...

hardened linux distros ??? donno if its any better
than off the shelf thats been hardened ...
http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Distro/distro.gwif.html


- define a security policy - who can do what and when

- harden the kernel
http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Harden/kernel.gwif.html

- apply all the distro patches...
- get the latest patches/apps for ports that are used
- harden your file systems 
- turn off stuff you dont need, minimum install of apps
- install host and network ids
- backup your "important data"..
- other paranoia precautions
- how important is the data ...

- bsd vs linux ???
- seems like a small piece of the pie
- keep in mind lots of rootkits attacks unsecured "redhat" boxes

have fun linuxing
alvin
http://www.Linux-Sec.net


On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, timothy bauscher wrote:

> I am planning on building a firewall
> here. There is a lot of hype about
> Freebsd being great for firewalls,
> and books regarding Linux firewalls.
> 
> I love Linux, but I believe in
> finding the best solution for a
> problem. My question is not which OS
> is better for a firewall, but which
> one you would use (or do use).
>

Re: Motherboard/Mainboard+Athlon chip


hi ya

> > I'm in the market for a new computer and plan to run potato. The last
> > time I bought a box for linux, I bought a cheap system and found the
> > on-board sound & video chipsets weren't supported.

usually newer boards are the ones not supported...
unless were talking 3-5 yrs ago when the number of 
x11 drivers and nic drivers are far less
 
> Currently running woody (2.4.17) on 
> - an ASUS A7V266 (Via chipset w/ Promise 20265 ATA/100 IDE) running 
>   1GHz Athlon-C
> - an ECS K7S5A (SiS 735) running Athlon XP 1600+

soyo's Dragon series are good ... you can overclock them puppies
1Mhz at a time... 1500+ overclocked to 1700+

they now starting to have onboard nic and onboard svga for amd cpus !!!

> They are definitely hot, but since you are getting a case from
> Coolermaster, you know the importance of temerature.

just shipped a P3-1.0Ghz machine with no fan on the cpu... just its
original heatsink ... and 40mm fans on the side... nice and cool
compared to when you have fans fighting for air in them 1Us...

c ya
alvin

> I bought the ECS from http://www.micronux.com, which I found at
> http://www.linux.org/vendors/systems.html.
> 
> > This time, sound and video are non-issues -- the system will act as a
> > personal server more than a workstation. I'd like to go ahead and get
> > a fairly powerful AMD chip, though -- from shallow research the
> > Athlons seem to be very good values. 
> > 
> > http://web.archive.org/web/20010923184323/www.thedukeofurl.org/reviews/misc/linuxguide12/4.shtml
> > 
> > 
> > However, this comment from Red Hat
> > 
> > AMD Athlon compatible motherboards. The new motherboard architecture
> > being used and the cutting edge technology often implimented in the
> > chipsets can create problems during the installation. Red Hat Linux
> > may or may not install properly on a Athlon compatible motherboard
> > according to its components.
> > 
> > http://www.redhat.com/support/hardware/intel/62/rh6.2-hcl-i.ld-2.html
> > 
> > has me all nervous (as does reviewing that the Duke of URL's review
> > was for a systel with a 2.4 kernel). Searching through the last 6
> > months of the mailing list didn't signal anything to me about how to
> > choose the motherboard/mainboard.
> > 
> > Does anyone know of a site with reviews of recent cpu and mainboard
> > reviews linking them to any linux kernel limitations?
> > 
> > Would anyone know whether 
> > AMD 1400MHz Athlon Thunderbird Processor (266MHz FSB)
> > and
> > (AMD) Asus A7M266 AMD-761 Motherboard (DDR DRAM)
> > would work well with a 2.2 kernel?
> > 
> > TIA, very very much,
> > 
> > judith 
> > 
> > PSs:
> > 
> > Why that particular config? Because i'm looking at prebuilt systems
> > that come with the ATC-210 Aluminum Tower Case by Coolermaster. So
> > far, I've only found hypersonic-pc.com offers that.
> > 
> > http://kachinatech.com/'s configuration system has been down for a
> > while and they don't specify what mother board they use with their
> > Debian installed systems.
> > 
> > i miss thedukeofurl.org -- old reviews can be still be studied at
> > http://web.archive.org/web/20010802153901/www.thedukeofurl.org/reviews.shtml
> > 
> > 
> > http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=details&hid=293
> 
> 
> -- 
> ++
> | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
> | Jefferson, LA  USA  http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81|
> ||
> | 484,246 sq mi are needed for 6 billion people to live, 4   !
> ! persons per lot, in lots that are 60'x150'.|
> ! That is ~ California, Texas and Missouri.  !
> ! Alternatively, France, Spain and The United Kingdom.   |
> ++
> 
> 
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firewall: linux vs. freebsd

2002-02-22 Thread timothy bauscher

I am planning on building a firewall
here. There is a lot of hype about
Freebsd being great for firewalls,
and books regarding Linux firewalls.

I love Linux, but I believe in
finding the best solution for a
problem. My question is not which OS
is better for a firewall, but which
one you would use (or do use).

Thank you for your help!
(==timothy==)

"All software sucks. Linux sucks less."

Re: Motherboard/Mainboard+Athlon chip

2002-02-22 Thread Ron Johnson

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 18:17:41 -0600 Judith Elaine Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I'm in the market for a new computer and plan to run potato. The last
> time I bought a box for linux, I bought a cheap system and found the
> on-board sound & video chipsets weren't supported.

Currently running woody (2.4.17) on 
- an ASUS A7V266 (Via chipset w/ Promise 20265 ATA/100 IDE) running 
  1GHz Athlon-C
- an ECS K7S5A (SiS 735) running Athlon XP 1600+

They are definitely hot, but since you are getting a case from
Coolermaster, you know the importance of temerature.

I bought the ECS from http://www.micronux.com, which I found at
http://www.linux.org/vendors/systems.html.

> This time, sound and video are non-issues -- the system will act as a
> personal server more than a workstation. I'd like to go ahead and get
> a fairly powerful AMD chip, though -- from shallow research the
> Athlons seem to be very good values. 
> 
> http://web.archive.org/web/20010923184323/www.thedukeofurl.org/reviews/misc/linuxguide12/4.shtml
> 
> 
> However, this comment from Red Hat
> 
>   AMD Athlon compatible motherboards. The new motherboard architecture
>   being used and the cutting edge technology often implimented in the
>   chipsets can create problems during the installation. Red Hat Linux
>   may or may not install properly on a Athlon compatible motherboard
>   according to its components.
> 
> http://www.redhat.com/support/hardware/intel/62/rh6.2-hcl-i.ld-2.html
> 
> has me all nervous (as does reviewing that the Duke of URL's review
> was for a systel with a 2.4 kernel). Searching through the last 6
> months of the mailing list didn't signal anything to me about how to
> choose the motherboard/mainboard.
> 
> Does anyone know of a site with reviews of recent cpu and mainboard
> reviews linking them to any linux kernel limitations?
> 
> Would anyone know whether 
>   AMD 1400MHz Athlon Thunderbird Processor (266MHz FSB)
>   and
>   (AMD) Asus A7M266 AMD-761 Motherboard (DDR DRAM)
> would work well with a 2.2 kernel?
> 
> TIA, very very much,
> 
> judith 
> 
> PSs:
> 
> Why that particular config? Because i'm looking at prebuilt systems
> that come with the ATC-210 Aluminum Tower Case by Coolermaster. So
> far, I've only found hypersonic-pc.com offers that.
> 
> http://kachinatech.com/'s configuration system has been down for a
> while and they don't specify what mother board they use with their
> Debian installed systems.
> 
> i miss thedukeofurl.org -- old reviews can be still be studied at
> http://web.archive.org/web/20010802153901/www.thedukeofurl.org/reviews.shtml
> 
> 
> http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=details&hid=293


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| Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
| Jefferson, LA  USA  http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81|
||
| 484,246 sq mi are needed for 6 billion people to live, 4   !
! persons per lot, in lots that are 60'x150'.|
! That is ~ California, Texas and Missouri.  !
! Alternatively, France, Spain and The United Kingdom.   |
++

Re: RAID 1 setup on woody


hiya 

to make an existing distro into a raid1 setup after the fact
is a little dangerous to its data ... 
- backup your data first

numerous ways to convert /dev/hda  into raid1 with hda and hdc

http://www.1U-Raid5.net/HowTo/SW-Raid-HOWTO.txt
( lots of "fun" reading...

- key parts
- backup your important files

- partition your disks similarly to keep things simple
- make sure your raid partitions are "fd" type  ( NOT 83 )

- the "FD" types sorta tells me you cant use an
existing disk... you have to wipe it ( format it too )...

- if its not fs type i am not sure that you can
still boot off the other mirror... you cant ??

- learn some raid commands ( dont experiement with real data )
http://www.1U-Raid5.net/HowTo/Commands.uhow2.txt
- raidstart, raidstop, raidhotadd, raidsetfaulty, etc
- mdctl --examine
- cat /proc/mdstat
- mdadd ...

Existing/working raid1 mirror

http://www.1U-Raid5.net/Conf/raid1_root_raid.lilo.conf
http://www.1U-Raid5.net/Conf/raid1_root_raid.raidtab

- pull out a disk and see if it boots in degraded mode

starting from scratch ... "FD" partition and re-installing is about
1hr process ??? and re-store data from backups...
- trying to do stuff from the "middle" might take lots longer

- using a good installer might help too ???
( one that knows how to make root-raid 

- if the above is redhat... than make a standalone boot disks
to run in memory... wipe out the disk ... and overwrite / with
debian... and you're done in under an hour ??..

have fun raiding
alvin
http://www.1U-Raid5.net


On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Dave Sherohman wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:32:17AM -0800, Richard Weil wrote:
> > I need some help setting up RAID 1 on a fresh Woody
> > install. The software is newer than the docs,
> > particularly for Lilo, so any help from those with
> > experience would be most appreicated.
> 
> The Software-RAID-HOWTO got me through this one.
> 
> > My hda and hdc drives are identical in size. hda is
> > divided into multiple partitions -- / (/dev/hda2),
> > /boot (/dev/hda1), /home (/dev/hda5), /usr
> > (/dev/hda6), /var (/dev/hda7). There is nothing on hdc
> > yet.
> 
> Step 1:  Partition hdc just like hda.  You should probably set your
> partitions to type FD on both drives if you haven't done so already.
> 
> > If anyone has a similar setup already working, I'd
> > love to see their /etc/raidtab
> 
> Just lots of sections that look like:
> 
> raiddev /dev/md0
> raid-level  1
> nr-raid-disks   2
> nr-spare-disks  0
> persistent-superblock   1
> chunk-size  4
> device  /dev/hdg1
> raid-disk   0
> device  /dev/hde1
> raid-disk   1
> 
> > and lilo.conf files
> 
> Pretty bog-standard, aside from the lines:
> 
> boot=/dev/md0
> root=/dev/md0
> 
> > with a brief description of how to get it working
> > without deleting anything on hda (i.e., reformating
> > the drive).
> 
> 1.  Partition both drives identically.  Make sure that no partitions
> on hdc (except for swap - swap can stripe itself, so don't RAID it)
> are larger than the corresponding partitions on hda.
> 
> 2.  Install on hda.
> 
> 3.  Create your /etc/raidtab with an md device for each non-swap
> partition on hda/hdc.  For now, set up the last 4 lines of each md
> device like so:
> 
> device  /dev/hdcX
> raid-disk   0
> device  /dev/hdaX
> failed-disk 1
> 
> Note that the partition on hdc is listed first and the partition on
> hda is listed as a failed-disk instead of a raid-disk.
> 
> 4.  Start your RAID devices with raidstart.  They will all be
> degraded (due to the "failed" partitions on hda), but that's what you
> want at this point.  Format the md devices with, e.g., "mke2fs
> /dev/mdX".
> 
> 5.  In single-user mode, copy each partition from hda to the
> corresponding md device.  After copying the root partition over, edit
> the copy of etc/fstab on the RAID (i.e., /mnt/etc/fstab) to reference
> the appropriate md devices instead of the partitions on hda.
> 
> 6.  Edit lilo.conf, changing the boot and root devices to /dev/md0
> and re-run lilo.
> 
> 7.  Reboot.  When the system comes back up, use mount to check
> whether your system is mounted from hda or the RAID devices.  It
> should now be on RAID.
> 
> 8.  Change your partition types on hda to FD if you haven't already
> done so, change all the failed-disk directives in /etc/raidtab to
> raid-disk, and add the partitions from hda using raidhotadd.
> 
> And you're done.  Easy as that.
> 
> > -  Can I create a single RAID

Re: lilo problem


hi ya rudy

- first test that the sid kernel boots and oyu have sid running...
  by putting it onto floppy...and boot off floppy
- sometimes it might not boot till you rdev the boot floppy
( the part i am wondering about for your kernel & system

- once you know sid boots and redhat also boots...
  than we can fix lilo ... 

- it doesnt matter where you put the kernel...
  it doesnt matter where "boot=/dev/xxx" references
- lilo will warn you if you pick hdc instead of hda

- it does matter that rh kernel can find /dev/hda1
  it does matter that sid kernel can find /dev/hdc1
( or wherever you have / partition for each distro )

- rdev is a way to force it easily on floppy..
( to know that the kernel works fine as does the "distro"

- i dont know if you can rdev a "kernel file"
( i think you can )... and if not.. youhave to make your own
kernel on hdc1 and copy it to hda1

- you'd need initrd if the kernel doesnt have all its drivers
  for the hardware the kernel needs to read from since the kernel
  is on disks it does not yet know how to read -- catch-22 problem
- scsi and usb-drives probably needs initrd
until you've made your own kernel w/ all its drivers built in

have fun lilo'ing
alvin

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Rudy Gevaert wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 12:48:05PM -0500, Bob Thibodeau wrote:
> > I'm just coming into the thread, but if you had your initrd=
> > in the main section of lilo.conf, try putting it
> > in the image section of your Sid kernel. That way,
> > no other kernel will try to use it.
> 
> Where should I put the init image?  On hda or hdc?  (hdc has sid, hda
> has redhat, and my sidkernel is in hda)
>

Re: lilo problem - / problem


hi ya rudy

if you "use" a precompiled kernel... you have to tell
it where / is on the new machine... otherwise you do get
those "kernel panics" and "no init found"
- i always make a kernel on the target... and copy it around

but if you copy that kernel to flippy... 
that floppy should boot your system w/ the correct distro/kernel
dd if=/..kernel.. of=/dev/fd0
rdev /dev/fd0  /dev/hda1

or /dev/hdc1  if you want it to boot into /dev/hdc

if the floppy tests works..
than (if it can be done), you'd need to rdev your kernel

rdev /boot/kernel /dev/hdc1 ( donno if this works )
where /boot is the one on /dev/hda1

- recompiling a new kernel on hdc1 and copying to hda1 works
to lilo it and boot it and get into hdc1

have fun
alvin

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Rudy Gevaert wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Due to some workload I've only had the time to look at this now.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 05:12:12AM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote:
> > 
> > hi ya
> > 
> > if it hands on "ramdisk"... remove that initrd line...
> > and/or make sure the file exists as typed
> 
> Wel, I removed the initrd line from lilo.conf, and redhat boots fine,
> but when I try to boot Sid I get a kernel panic, "no init found... try
> passing init= ...etc".
> 
> This is my lilo.conf:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# cat /etc/lilo.conf
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> linear
> default=nieuwekernel
> 
> image=/boot/2.4.17
> label=nieuwekernel
> read-only
> 
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.19
> label=DebianSid
> read-only
> root=/dev/hdc1
> 
> other=/dev/hda1
> label=dos
> 
> > initrd is not needed if your kernel has all the hardware
> > drivers needed to boot...
> 
> So this explains why I get that error?  Because it is still the standard
> kernel from Sid?
> 
> 
> 
> > if you're referring to redhats "simple install"..
> > - just boot the cdrom and tell it upgrade
> > and it will go thru what you got ant ask you 
> > what else you want
> 
> No, I'm referring to Debians install, when you can choosse: Simple or
> advanced install. ;)  How do I get that screen back?  Or, what packages
> do I have to install to get make etc?  (I guess gcc ...?)
> 
> > rh is such a pita aint it???
> 
> Yes!  But let me explain, when I got my new pc and started university I
> wanted GNU/Linux... and redhat was the only one I knew.  After a couple
> of months I got to know Debian (they used it in my studentgroup (don't
> know the right translation...), and I wiped windows out at home and
> installed debian.  On my new pc I had suffered 4 months to configure my
> dualhead that I didn't dare to install debian yet.. but now I bought a
> new hd; so the time has come to switch to debian :).
> 
> Thanks for the help up till now, I hope you can help me with the rest :)
> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
> Rudy Gevaert - [EMAIL PROTECTED]  - http://www.webworm.org
>  - keyserverID=24DC49C6 - http://www.zeus.rug.ac.be   
> Private mail with incorrect quoting behavior will remain unanswered
> 
> "While one person hesitates because he feels inferior,
> the other is busy making mistakes and becoming superior" 
> -- Henry C. Link 
>

Re: [OT] Price / performance & Software RAID / Hardware RAID / IDE/ SCSI


hi ya

am curious... why 3Ware cards are not in the list of "hardware raid"
supported chipsets..
- 3ware (supposedly) does raid0/raid1 in hw...

- easy enough to test ... pull the drives... :-)

c ya
alvin

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Emil Pedersen wrote:

> O Polite wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 02:16, Alvin Oga wrote:
> > 
> > > if you can write data to /dev/hda1  in 5 seconds...
> > > writing to striped raid0 will be say 7-10 seconds...
> > Why is this? I thoght the point of raid0 was to write to all drives in
> > parallell.
> 
> It is[1].  You trade increased performance (compared to non-raided
> disks) for the cost of higher probability  of hardware failure.  (raid0
> means any disk dies, the entire stripe set is lost).
>   For more details use google or just click
>   http://www.kintronics.com/raidwpaper.htm
> 
> As for the page
>   http://www.linux-ide.org/chipsets.html
> 
> I miss 3Ware's Escalade-cards, who as far as I know was the first and/or
> best TRUE ide/ata raid cards supported in linux, no?
>   http://www.3ware.com/index.shtml
> 
> 
> [1]  Assumed that they are not on the same bus OR that the bus can hadle
> it properly (which I _think_ so far only scsi can).
> 
> 
> Regards,
>   Emil
> 
> 
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Re: undeleting


hi ya kurdt

to protect against "rm -rf"...
- dont login as root...( if you were )
- have backups
- run hourly incremental backup if you're really paranoid
  ( backed up into other server's disks )
- definitely run daily incremental backups into a different server

to try to recover deleted files

http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Txt/erase.txt

have fun
alvin
http://www.Linux-Backup.net


On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Kurdt wrote:

> does anyone know how to undelete some files?
> i did an rm -rf of my .C files of my programming project  (it was coded 
> in the Makefile, under the make clean option.. :)
>

smart-hosting w/ exim w/o dns - solved

2002-02-22 Thread Michael P. Soulier

Hey people. 

I asked a while back about smart-hosting all mail from my desktop box to
my firewall/router which is only known by it's internal IP and a hostname in
/etc/hosts. It failed to work because exim kept doing DNS lookups on my router
which has no DNS entry. 

The fix was to change one token in the route. 

smarthost:
  driver = domainlist
  transport = remote_smtp
  route_list = "* rabbit byname"

end

Note the route_list above. Previously, after running eximconfig and
selecting the smarthost option, the "byname" above was "bydns_a". By changing
it to "byname", exim performs a standard gethostbyname() system call, which
thanks to my /etc/nsswitch.conf results in checking /etc/hosts first, finds
the "rabbit" hostname, and all is well. 

Cheers,

Mike

-- 
Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08
"...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix


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Re: Exim configuration

2002-02-22 Thread Jerome Acks Jr

On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 06:19:30AM -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, R.Pac wrote:
> 
> > how do I configure Exim with eximconfig if  I'm behind a firewall ? is

[snip]

> system, I'd also recommend adding this after you run eximconfig to
> /etc/exim/exim.conf (you'll see where it goes if you look)
> 
> 
> 
> # Exim contains support for the Realtime Blocking List (RBL) that is being
> # maintained as part of the DNS. See http://maps.vix.com/rbl/ for
> # background. Uncommenting the following line will make Exim reject mail
> # from any host whose IP address is blacklisted in the RBL at maps.vix.com.
> 
> rbl_hosts = !192.168.0.0/24
> rbl_domains = 
> relays.ordb.org:inputs.orbz.org:orbs.dorkslayers.com:relays.osirusoft.com:spews.relays.osirusoft.com:dialups.mail-abuse.org:postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org:dsn.rfc-ignorant.org:bl.spamcop.net
> rbl_reject_recipients = true
> rbl_warn_header = false

If I am reading this correctly. This does not log info about blocked
messages. I find that a lot of IP addresses in dynamic IP pools for
dialups are listed in various RBL databases. It's sort of like a
lottery if your ISP assigns you a dynamic IP. Some days no problem, and
some days everything you send is blocked as spam. Surprise, surprise,
one day when I checked what my spam filter was blocking, I found my
lover's emails--not really something I want blocked. Another day my
son's emails were spam. Personally, I prefer to dump spam into a folder
that I can check periodically to see what got blocked that shouldn't
have.

> recipients_reject_except = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> rbl_log_rcpt_count
> rbl_log_headers
> always_bcc
> 
> 

-- 
Jerome

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Re: X: cannot read /etc/X11/X symbolic link

2002-02-22 Thread Sam Varghese

On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 01:30:52AM +, Keith Willoughby wrote:
> Sam Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I did this, using ln -s /etc/X11/X /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 as root.
> > I get a message stating that the file exists.
> 
> You've got your parameters to ln backwards. If it helps, I do this all
> the time.

Yeah, you're right. Upgrading from potato to woody over a ppp link over
a period of 48 hours has left me slightly inclined to stupidity.
Thanks for pointing it out.

Sam
-- 
Sam Varghese
http://www.gnubies.com
Linux and all free software is not about the smell of money but the
improvement of community

Re: Motherboard/Mainboard+Athlon chip



> in at over $400 more than I paid a few weeks ago.  I bought mine at
> Pogolinux.com.  I wanted to support a linux builder.  Came with
> RedHat 7.2 but I replaced it with Debian.


everytime i see pogo linux i have to bring this up. i ordered
3 1U servers from pogolinux last year, and it was a absolute
nightmare. its probably an isolated incident. but they shipped
the systems late, gave some systems mismatched memory, none
of the systems had ECC memory as ordered, one system had half
the memory ordered, one system was missing a floppy drive cable,
none of the rack kits had any screws, and on top of that when
we returned them using their UPS shipper ID, 2 out of 3(all 3
shipped from different parts of the country) were returned
to us. Seems at the time we were returning them, Pogo decided
to move to a new office, and did not tell UPS in time, I would
of expected UPS to know about the new address and forward the
package since it was on their account, but it was returned.
there was more problems, but thats a taste of what I
experienced.

i ordered from another company, slightly more expensive,
larger box(4U vs 1U), but much better quality stuff,
and they shipped the system in perfect condition, nothing
missing, all parts the right kind, everything tested.

one of the head engineers over there(pogo) probably remembers
me, i was pissed.

maybe it was an isolated incident ...only the folks
at pogo know that i suspect.

(note: i too like to support linux vendors. i do not
buy from any of the "big name" OEMs. With the exception
of laptops, which most are IBM. Otherwise all my purchases
of new systems are from small shops, that usually support
linux in some form or another. Of course this is for
x86 hardware only, i also buy Sun stuff sometimes. ..)



nate
(trying very hard not to curse pogo's name)

Re: Motherboard/Mainboard+Athlon chip


> Would you know what kernel the red hat is using?
> I assume it's 2.4, but it sounds really promising!
>
> I'll make sure to get a controller then, thanks.

it's a 2.4 kernel of some sort. im certain it would
work fine under 2.2 as well. i picked 2.2-compadible
hardware such as Matrox G400 video, Soundblaster PCI
128 sound, 3COM 3C905B NIC ..Another known problem
area is AGP which i forgot to mention in the other
email. If you try to turn on full AGP on some AMD
(or maybe even some Intel) systems you may experience
problems depending on card/chipset. I don't have AGP
enabled(Nvidia defaults to disable AGP on my chipset),
and don't see a need for AGP, so i have not had any
stability issues.

my home system is a 1.3 Athlon with a Tyan motherboard,
its solid as a rock under 2.2.19. my motherboard can't
support more then 1.3 though, its based on an older
chipset. I originally started with a Asus A7A266
but that was a horrid experience. later my friend
told me they had recalled some boards due to a defect.
i haven't bothered to check mine its still sitting on
a shelf unused.

be sure to get a good power supply. i overcompensated
my Athlon 1.3 at home with a PC Power & Cooling Turbocool
450ATX (~$200). check the AMD website for certified
power supplies.


good luck!

nate

php4 installtion

2002-02-22 Thread Jonathan Tabaco









I am attempting to install/configure php4

 

When I uncomment the loadmodule
line for the php4 module I get VM: killing process apache

 

Anybody know why?

 

 I can’t find
anything on any of the sites….

 

 

Thanks in advance for any help,

 

Jon Tabaco

Re: X: cannot read /etc/X11/X symbolic link

2002-02-22 Thread Keith Willoughby

Sam Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I did this, using ln -s /etc/X11/X /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 as root.
> I get a message stating that the file exists.

You've got your parameters to ln backwards. If it helps, I do this all
the time.

-- 
Keith Willoughby
Our Father, who art in heaven, Harold be Thy name.

http://www.randomreviews.co.uk - it does what it says on the tin

X: cannot read /etc/X11/X symbolic link

2002-02-22 Thread Sam Varghese

G'day

I upgraded one of my potato boxes to woody over the last two nights.
I have encountered problems setting up X after the upgrade.

After creating an XF86config, startx yields this error message:

X: cannot read /etc/X11/X symbolic link (Invalid argument) aborting

I looked through the mailing list archives and found one post which
referred to this. The solution advocated was to link /etc/X11/X to
/usr/bin/X11/XFree86.

I did this, using ln -s /etc/X11/X /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 as root.
I get a message stating that the file exists.

startx again yields the same error message as the first time.

I would appreciate some pointers in getting out of this mess.

Sam
-- 
Sam Varghese
http://www.gnubies.com
Linux and all free software is not about the smell of money but the
improvement of community

Re: Netscape: Can't enable javascript anymore

2002-02-22 Thread Jeff

Andreas Goesele, 2002-Feb-22 00:12 +0100:
> Andreas Goesele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Since a few days I can't enable javascript in netscape (4.77-2 on
> > up to date woody) anymore.
> > 
> > Trying to do so crashes netscape (it becomes unresponsive with very
> > high CPU usage). It can not be a problem of my configuration in
> > ~/.netscape, as removing that directory makes in impossible to start
> > netscape (as javascript is enabled by default).
> 
> Per accident I found out that I can enable javascript in netscape as
> root but not as (any) user. I now would assume a permission
> problem. But what permissions javascript in netscape could be missing
> and how could I find out?
> 
> Any hints?
> 
> Andreas Goesele

I have the same problem with Mozilla 0.9.8 and jre 1.4.  I'm
still working on it though...no answers yet.

I'm gonna try to install the java in my home directory instead of
in /usr/local...see what that does.

jc

-- 
Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer
Diggin' Debian  Admin and User

Re: [OT] "-" user on solaris

2002-02-22 Thread Michel Loos

Em Sex, 2002-02-22 às 17:56, Kent West escreveu:
> Michel Loos wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I know it is not Debian related,but if anybody has an idea...
> > I just found a user with username -
> > on a sparc/solaris, he has both an entry in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
> > in shadow he is locked (*LK* as passwd)
> > 
> > NIS should not be running, (and it would be a + entry, I think)
> > 
> > any idea ?
> > 
> > Michel.
> 
> I can't address your issue, Michel, but I've been dying to say this to 
> someone.
> 
> The only *nix I've ever known is Debian (going on about 4 years now), 
> and this week I was tasked with putting in a new drive and doing a clean 
> install of Solaris 7 on an Ultra 1. Wow! Debian is to Solaris like 
> Macintosh is to NT on a 486 laptop with proprietary hardware from 
> vendors who are out of business with only 16MB RAM. In other words, my 
> little experience with Solaris so far leads me to the conclusion that 
> compared to Debian (as far as ease of installation/maintenance/extra 
> packages), Solaris sucks.
> 
> Just thought I should make an OT posting even more OT  :-)

I can only totally agree with you. And sincerely the arguments for
keeping that thing are purely stupid: "We spent so much money on it,
you have to make it work, and no you can't install debian on it"

Michel.

Re: Motherboard/Mainboard+Athlon chip

2002-02-22 Thread Bill Moseley

At 06:17 PM 02/22/02 -0600, Judith Elaine Bush wrote:
>Would anyone know whether 
>   AMD 1400MHz Athlon Thunderbird Processor (266MHz FSB)
>   and
>   (AMD) Asus A7M266 AMD-761 Motherboard (DDR DRAM)
>would work well with a 2.2 kernel?

Hi,

I've run Potato -> Sid on Athlon XP 1800+ on a Microstar K7T266 Pro2 MB.
It does seem to run a lot warmer than my PIII machines, but no problem
installing Debian.  Haven't upgraded to 2.4 kernel yet.

>Why that particular config? Because i'm looking at prebuilt systems
>that come with the ATC-210 Aluminum Tower Case by Coolermaster. So
>far, I've only found hypersonic-pc.com offers that.

Hum, must be a nice case.  I just priced my hardware (except for main
board) on their site (and with the case you want) and it came in at over
$400 more than I paid a few weeks ago.  I bought mine at Pogolinux.com.  I
wanted to support a linux builder.  Came with RedHat 7.2 but I replaced it
with Debian.

-- 
Bill Moseley
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RAID 1 setup on woody

2002-02-22 Thread Richard Weil

Thanks, this is great. A couple of follow-up
questions:

1. How do I get to single user mode without rebooting?
(I know I should already know this.)

2. Do I need to do anything special to copy the
partitions from /dev/hdaX to /dev/mdY? Once I'm in
single user mode can I just "cp -R /dev/hdaX
/dev/mdY"? Or, will I need do something like the HOWTO
suggests for the root filesystem for all the
filesystems:

- create /mnt/newroot

- then:

cd /
find . -xdev | cpio -pm /mnt/newroot

Thanks.

Richard

--- Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:32:17AM -0800, Richard
> Weil wrote:
> > I need some help setting up RAID 1 on a fresh
> Woody
> > install. The software is newer than the docs,
> > particularly for Lilo, so any help from those with
> > experience would be most appreicated.
> 
> The Software-RAID-HOWTO got me through this one.
> 
> > My hda and hdc drives are identical in size. hda
> is
> > divided into multiple partitions -- / (/dev/hda2),
> > /boot (/dev/hda1), /home (/dev/hda5), /usr
> > (/dev/hda6), /var (/dev/hda7). There is nothing on
> hdc
> > yet.
> 
> Step 1:  Partition hdc just like hda.  You should
> probably set your
> partitions to type FD on both drives if you haven't
> done so already.
> 
> > If anyone has a similar setup already working, I'd
> > love to see their /etc/raidtab
> 
> Just lots of sections that look like:
> 
> raiddev /dev/md0
> raid-level  1
> nr-raid-disks   2
> nr-spare-disks  0
> persistent-superblock   1
> chunk-size  4
> device  /dev/hdg1
> raid-disk   0
> device  /dev/hde1
> raid-disk   1
> 
> > and lilo.conf files
> 
> Pretty bog-standard, aside from the lines:
> 
> boot=/dev/md0
> root=/dev/md0
> 
> > with a brief description of how to get it working
> > without deleting anything on hda (i.e.,
> reformating
> > the drive).
> 
> 1.  Partition both drives identically.  Make sure
> that no partitions
> on hdc (except for swap - swap can stripe itself, so
> don't RAID it)
> are larger than the corresponding partitions on hda.
> 
> 2.  Install on hda.
> 
> 3.  Create your /etc/raidtab with an md device for
> each non-swap
> partition on hda/hdc.  For now, set up the last 4
> lines of each md
> device like so:
> 
> device  /dev/hdcX
> raid-disk   0
> device  /dev/hdaX
> failed-disk 1
> 
> Note that the partition on hdc is listed first and
> the partition on
> hda is listed as a failed-disk instead of a
> raid-disk.
> 
> 4.  Start your RAID devices with raidstart.  They
> will all be
> degraded (due to the "failed" partitions on hda),
> but that's what you
> want at this point.  Format the md devices with,
> e.g., "mke2fs
> /dev/mdX".
> 
> 5.  In single-user mode, copy each partition from
> hda to the
> corresponding md device.  After copying the root
> partition over, edit
> the copy of etc/fstab on the RAID (i.e.,
> /mnt/etc/fstab) to reference
> the appropriate md devices instead of the partitions
> on hda.
> 
> 6.  Edit lilo.conf, changing the boot and root
> devices to /dev/md0
> and re-run lilo.
> 
> 7.  Reboot.  When the system comes back up, use
> mount to check
> whether your system is mounted from hda or the RAID
> devices.  It
> should now be on RAID.
> 
> 8.  Change your partition types on hda to FD if you
> haven't already
> done so, change all the failed-disk directives in
> /etc/raidtab to
> raid-disk, and add the partitions from hda using
> raidhotadd.
> 
> And you're done.  Easy as that.
> 
> > -  Can I create a single RAID device (md0) that
> > mirrors all of the hda/c, or do I need to create
> > separate RAID devices for each partition(md0, md1,
> > ...,md4)?
> 
> I'm not entirely sure whether it's possible to
> create an uber-RAID
> and partition it using the md driver, but separate
> md devices works
> fine.
> 
> > -  Assuming I need one for each partition, what
> are
> > people's thoughts on skipping / and /boot RAID?
> This
> > is the most intimidating part from reading the
> docs,
> > but it would seem to lessen the value of RAID
> > considerably.
> 
> There's no reason that / and /boot can't be RAIDed
> also.  If you put
> them on RAID, you'll have to reboot to complete the
> transition, but
> that's no big deal.
> 
> > -  Is the Boot+Root+RAID Howto still accurate,
> > particularly for Lilo?
> 
> Never read it.  Like I said, the Software-RAID-HOWTO
> seems to be
> sufficient.
> 
> > There's now a RAID boot option in Lilo which I'm
> not
> > sure how it would effect things like boot= and
> root=.
> 
> Not familiar with this option, but I've used the
> procedure above
> several times (I've got 3 or 4 systems running
> all-RAID) and it works
> fine with potato's lilo.  I can't imagine that
> woody's would have a
> problem with it.
> 
> -- 
> When we reduce our own liber

Re: Motherboard/Mainboard+Athlon chip


>
> Would anyone know whether
>   AMD 1400MHz Athlon Thunderbird Processor (266MHz FSB)
>   and
>   (AMD) Asus A7M266 AMD-761 Motherboard (DDR DRAM)
> would work well with a 2.2 kernel?
>

thats too weird. i have 2 AMD 1.4s here with A7M266s. they
run redhat 7.x fine. haven't tried debian(they aren't
my machines)

you can save a lot of headaches possibly by not using
the onboard IDE controllers of these newer boards. All
of my new systems use Promise ATA/100 controller cards.
debian works with them fine provided you use the ide
boot disk. a lot of troubles in the past have been
due to chipsets(most of the time dealing with IDE drives)


the 2 AMDs that i have at this office use the promise card,
as does my desktop P3. as does my athlon at home
and my P3 at home. all of my systems run 2.2.19.

i would NOT use the raid editions of these cards, just
the standard ones.

nate

Motherboard/Mainboard+Athlon chip

2002-02-22 Thread Judith Elaine Bush

I'm in the market for a new computer and plan to run potato. The last
time I bought a box for linux, I bought a cheap system and found the
on-board sound & video chipsets weren't supported.

This time, sound and video are non-issues -- the system will act as a
personal server more than a workstation. I'd like to go ahead and get
a fairly powerful AMD chip, though -- from shallow research the
Athlons seem to be very good values.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010923184323/www.thedukeofurl.org/reviews/misc/linuxguide12/4.shtml

However, this comment from Red Hat

AMD Athlon compatible motherboards. The new motherboard architecture
being used and the cutting edge technology often implimented in the
chipsets can create problems during the installation. Red Hat Linux
may or may not install properly on a Athlon compatible motherboard
according to its components.

http://www.redhat.com/support/hardware/intel/62/rh6.2-hcl-i.ld-2.html

has me all nervous (as does reviewing that the Duke of URL's review
was for a systel with a 2.4 kernel). Searching through the last 6
months of the mailing list didn't signal anything to me about how to
choose the motherboard/mainboard.

Does anyone know of a site with reviews of recent cpu and mainboard
reviews linking them to any linux kernel limitations?

Would anyone know whether
AMD 1400MHz Athlon Thunderbird Processor (266MHz FSB)
and
(AMD) Asus A7M266 AMD-761 Motherboard (DDR DRAM)
would work well with a 2.2 kernel?

TIA, very very much,

judith

PSs:

Why that particular config? Because i'm looking at prebuilt systems
that come with the ATC-210 Aluminum Tower Case by Coolermaster. So
far, I've only found hypersonic-pc.com offers that.

http://kachinatech.com/'s configuration system has been down for a
while and they don't specify what mother board they use with their
Debian installed systems.

i miss thedukeofurl.org -- old reviews can be still be studied at
http://web.archive.org/web/20010802153901/www.thedukeofurl.org/reviews.shtml

http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=details&hid=293

Re: Show me some good newbie intros to GNU/Linux

2002-02-22 Thread Hans Ekbrand

On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 08:11:33AM +1000, Alan Davis wrote:
> I have a four machine GNU/Linux (Debian) net in my classroom, for student 
> use.  Many students have gotten to know the basics---which consists of how to 
> start up Galeon or Netscape, even how to log on as "students".  (I set up one 
> account, so far, for most students, and leave the machine logged on to that 
> account.  Comments?)

You might be interested in Linux Terminal Server Project. www.ltsp.org

> This is a demonstration/proof of concept project.  This is a Biology class; I 
> don't have the free reign to spend two weeks on computer basics.  I have the 
> students read Sterling's Brief History of the Internet, give them a few 
> pointers of web searching, show them galeon, and let them search.  Some 
> students do quite well.  

> But I CANNOT FIND any single good introduction to GNU/Linux that is geared to 
> this leverl.  Here is a typical opening paragraph:
> 
>Linux is a POSIX compliant, UNIX-like operating system, with a kernel
> written by a Finnish graduate student, and etc., etc., etc.  
> 
> Con someone point me to some documents that actually attempt to explain what 
> the differences are, from Windoze and the Mac (the two computers with which 
> students are obviously acquainted)?

"What the differences are", is, from the students perspective, largely
dependant on what programs/window managers/desktop-environments they
use. I find the KDE documentation pretty basic, e.g.
http://www.kde.org/documentation/userguide/desktop-components.html. A
quick glance at the gnome quickstart also gave a good impression:
http://www.labs.redhat.com/gug/users-guide/quickstart.html

Some other links you might want to check out:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO-7.html
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XWindow-User-HOWTO-3.html

If you decide to write your own documentation, please let us know.


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Re: LapTop LCD shifted in X


> Hi,
> I have been attemting to shift my display down on my laptop. By
> default, there is a 1/4 inch of unused display showing at the
> bottom and the top 1/4 inch is off the top of the screen. This only
> happens in 800x600 mode. In fact 640x480 mode shows up in the
> middle of a 800x600 screen size, I.E. large border all the way
> around instead of using the full screen.
> Some pertinent info;
> Latest Debian stable with all patches
> DFI 7200 TC Laptop 32mb memory

in all the laptops i have used ths is a BIOS option (stretch
screen) or something ..

you check your bios ..?

maybe theres a firmware upgrade available ..

nate

Re: [OT] Price / performance & Software RAID / Hardware RAID / IDE

2002-02-22 Thread Bill Moseley

At 03:20 PM 02/22/02 -0800, nate wrote:
>one of my servers is running 3 x seagate ST39204LW
>Ultra160 10,000RPM drives. 2 are in raid0 and 1 is
>not.
>
>this is for a 477MB file.
>
>non raid:
>mail:~# time dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=10 count=5000
>5000+0 records in
>5000+0 records out
>
>real   0m10.035s
>user   0m0.020s
>sys0m2.060s

Boy, that sure kills my IDE drives!

Here's an old SuSE 6.3 with a 20GB 7200RPM IDE IBM drive:

> time dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=10 count=5000
5000+0 records in
5000+0 records out

real2m3.151s
user0m0.710s
sys 1m36.770s

And here's a new Sid system with a 60GB 7200 IBM drive.

$ time dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=10 count=5000
5000+0 records in
5000+0 records out

real1m9.297s
user0m0.190s
sys 0m52.100s


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ipchains/firewall oddly blocking random websites

2002-02-22 Thread Bryan K. Walton

I have a bizarre problem that I am having trouble fixing.  I have a home
firewall running kernel 2.2.20 with ipchains.  For some odd reason, the
firewall blocks about 5% of the websites I try to go to.  I turned on
logging for my HTTP ipchains rules and nothing out of the ordinary seems
to be happening.  Here is the http portion of my rules:

# Allow HTTP access to remote web sites
ipchains -A output  -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -p tcp \
  -s $IPADDR $UNPRIVPORTS \
  -d $ANYWHERE 80 -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A input   -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -p tcp ! -y \
  -s $ANYWHERE 80 \
  -d $IPADDR $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT

# Allow HTTPS access to remote secure web sites
ipchains -A output  -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -p tcp \
  -s $IPADDR $UNPRIVPORTS \
  -d $ANYWHERE 443 -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A input   -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -p tcp ! -y \
  -s $ANYWHERE 443 \
  -d $IPADDR $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT

And here is how those variables are defined:
IPADDR="66.222.30.128"
EXTERNAL_INTERFACE="eth0"
ANYWHERE="any/0"
UNPRIVPORTS="1024:65535"

Furthermore, here is a sample log from a successful attempt to access
www.weather.com:

Feb 22 17:08:54 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: output ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 66.222.30.128:62543 63.111.66.11:80 L=48 S=0x00 I=
64715 F=0x4000 T=127 SYN (#38)
Feb 22 17:08:54 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: input ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 63.111.66.11:80 66.222.30.128:62543 L=48 S=0x00 I=0
 F=0x4000 T=51 (#89)
Feb 22 17:08:54 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: output ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 66.222.30.128:62543 63.111.66.11:80 L=40 S=0x00 I=
64971 F=0x4000 T=127 (#38)
Feb 22 17:08:54 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: output ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 66.222.30.128:62543 63.111.66.11:80 L=454 S=0x00 I
=65227 F=0x4000 T=127 (#38)
Feb 22 17:08:54 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: input ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 63.111.66.11:80 66.222.30.128:62543 L=40 S=0x00 I=7
564 F=0x4000 T=51 (#89)
Feb 22 17:08:54 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: input ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 63.111.66.11:80 66.222.30.128:62543 L=1500 S=0x00 I
=7565 F=0x4000 T=51 (#89)
Feb 22 17:08:54 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: input ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 63.111.66.11:80 66.222.30.128:62543 L=1500 S=0x00 I
=7566 F=0x4000 T=51 (#89)
Feb 22 17:08:54 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: output ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 66.222.30.128:62543 63.111.66.11:80 L=40 S=0x00 I=
65483 F=0x4000 T=127 (#38)
Feb 22 17:08:54 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: input ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 63.111.66.11:80 66.222.30.128:62543 L=1500 S=0x00 I
=7567 F=0x4000 T=51 (#89)
Feb 22 17:08:54 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: input ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 63.111.66.11:80 66.222.30.128:62543 L=1500 S=0x00 I
=7568 F=0x4000 T=51 (#89)
Feb 22 17:08:54 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: output ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 66.222.30.128:62543 63.111.66.11:80 L=40 S=0x00 I=
204 F=0x4000 T=127 (#38)
Feb 22 17:08:54 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: input ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 63.111.66.11:80 66.222.30.128:62543 L=1500 S=0x00 I
=7569 F=0x4000 T=51 (#89)
Feb 22 17:08:54 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: input ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 63.111.66.11:80 66.222.30.128:62543 L=1500 S=0x00 I
=7570 F=0x4000 T=51 (#89)
Feb 22 17:08:54 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: output ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 66.222.30.128:62543 63.111.66.11:80 L=40 S=0x00 I=
460 F=0x4000 T=127 (#38)
Feb 22 17:08:54 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: input ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 63.111.66.11:80 66.222.30.128:62543 L=1500 S=0x00 I

And then, here is a sample log from a failed attempt to access
www.wunderground.com:

Feb 22 17:20:53 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: output ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 66.222.30.128:62556 66.28.69.136:80 L=48 S=0x00 I=
20688 F=0x4000 T=127 SYN (#38)
Feb 22 17:20:56 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: output ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 66.222.30.128:62556 66.28.69.136:80 L=48 S=0x00 I=
21200 F=0x4000 T=127 SYN (#38)
Feb 22 17:20:56 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=6
66.28.69.136:80 66.222.30.128:62556 L=48 S=0x00 I=627
80 F=0x4000 T=51 (#26)
Feb 22 17:20:59 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=6
66.28.69.136:80 66.222.30.128:62556 L=48 S=0x00 I=629
45 F=0x4000 T=51 (#26)
Feb 22 17:21:02 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: output ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 66.222.30.128:62556 66.28.69.136:80 L=48 S=0x00 I=
4 F=0x4000 T=127 SYN (#38)
Feb 22 17:21:02 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=6
66.28.69.136:80 66.222.30.128:62556 L=48 S=0x00 I=632
56 F=0x4000 T=51 (#26)
Feb 22 17:21:06 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=6
66.28.69.136:80 66.222.30.128:62556 L=48 S=0x00 I=637
68 F=0x4000 T=51 (#26)
Feb 22 17:21:14 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: output ACCEPT eth0
PROTO=6 66.222.30.128:62556 66.28.69.136:80 L=48 S=0x00 I=
24272 F=0x4000 T=127 SYN (#38)
Feb 22 17:21:14 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=6
66.28.69.136:80 66.222.30.128:62556 L=48 S=0x00 I=644
17 F=0x4000 T=51 (#26)
Feb 22 17:21:18 cortafuegos kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=6
66.28.69.136:80 66.222.30.128

Re: Static route config


> Hi,
>
>   How do I configure a static route into the startup scripts / files
> so that the route is set at boot time? I dont think
> /etc/network/interfaces will work for this because none of the
> interfaces on the machine belong to the destination net. Here is
> the config I am working with :

what i do is make a script, be sure its executable,
then call it from /etc/network/interfaces via the
'up' option. so when that particular interface comes online
the script is executed.

nate

Re: [OT] Price / performance & Software RAID / Hardware RAID / IDE


> On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 02:16, Alvin Oga wrote:
>
>> if you can write data to /dev/hda1  in 5 seconds...
>> writing to striped raid0 will be say 7-10 seconds...
> Why is this? I thoght the point of raid0 was to write to all drives
> in parallell.


it is, and there is a decent performance improvement
in software raid under 2.2, i think i have read somewhere
that performance is dramatically down in kernel 2.4(don't
remember which kernel it was referring to).

just doing a crude test, i get approx 100% performance
increase in writes from raid0 compared to no raid.

one of my servers is running 3 x seagate ST39204LW
Ultra160 10,000RPM drives. 2 are in raid0 and 1 is
not.

this is for a 477MB file.

non raid:
mail:~# time dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=10 count=5000
5000+0 records in
5000+0 records out

real0m10.035s
user0m0.020s
sys 0m2.060s


raid0:
mail:/var/spool# time dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=10 count=5000
5000+0 records in
5000+0 records out

real0m5.156s
user0m0.030s
sys 0m2.690s


earlier in the year i ran bonnie on my servers and
heres some quick stats

Dual P3-800 512MB, 2xSeagate drives in raid0:
200MB - Block Writes - 95,826kB/second
Block reads - + kB/second (don't know why bonnie
did that)

no raid, same system
200MB - Block writes - 52,739kB/second
  - Block reads  - + kB/second (again, weird)

Dual P3-733 256MB RAM, similar drives, running in raid1:
200MB - Block writes - 41,243 kB/second
Block reads  - 195,953 kB/second

All filesystems ext2, all kernels 2.2.19

nate

Re: Show me some good newbie intros to GNU/Linux

2002-02-22 Thread Faheem Mitha

On 22 Feb 2002, Alan Davis wrote:

> I am trying to write this myself.  I have found nothing that explains
> GNU/Linux adequately to my students.  I teach Biology at a public high
> school on the island of Saipan, in the Northern Mariana Islands, a
> commonwealth of the United States.  Many of my students have never used
> computers before.  The highest level computer course at our school is
> computer literacy, which I think is an introduction to M$ Works (call
> that literacy?).
>
> I have a four machine GNU/Linux (Debian) net in my classroom, for
> student use.  Many students have gotten to know the basics---which
> consists of how to start up Galeon or Netscape, even how to log on as
> "students".  (I set up one account, so far, for most students, and leave
> the machine logged on to that account.  Comments?)

If you create separate accounts then they can customise the account (I'd
recommend you use KDE but you probably are already). If they can customise
the account they are more likely to feel the computer "belongs" to them in
some way and are more likely to take an interest in it. Of course, this
will greatly increase your security problems, like bad passwords etc. If
you decide to go this route you might want to buy a good book on Linux
Security like "Hacking Linux Exposed".

> This is a demonstration/proof of concept project.  This is a Biology
> class; I don't have the free reign to spend two weeks on computer
> basics.  I have the students read Sterling's Brief History of the
> Internet, give them a few pointers of web searching, show them galeon,
> and let them search.  Some students do quite well.
>
> But I CANNOT FIND any single good introduction to GNU/Linux that is
> geared to this leverl.  Here is a typical opening paragraph:
>
>Linux is a POSIX compliant, UNIX-like operating system, with a kernel
> written by a Finnish graduate student, and etc., etc., etc.
>
> Con someone point me to some documents that actually attempt to explain
> what the differences are, from Windoze and the Mac (the two computers
> with which students are obviously acquainted)?

I don't know if these are elementary enough for your students, but...

1)  http://rute.sourceforge.net

Notes: This book is a general tutorial and reference. I have not used it a
great deal myself, but it seems pretty good. Maybe too advanced for
your audience, but a great reference.

Also available in print as Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition
(With CD-ROM) by Paul Sheer, ISBN: 0130333514, Price on Amazon $27.99

2) http://www.dsl.org/cookbook/

Notes: This book is a guide for getting common and basic tasks done in
Linux/Unix. Very useful, and probably suitable for high school
students. Note this is also available as the Debian package
linuxcookbook.

Also available in print as The Linux Cookbook: Tips and Techniques for
Everyday Use by Michael Stutz, ISBN: ISBN: 1886411484, Price on Amazon
$20.96

3) Also possibly http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/

2) and 3) are rather Debian oriented, though. But since you have
Debian installed, this may not be such a bad thing.

Good luck getting your students acquainted with Debian. It is quite
ambitious of you. I've had some experience with students of that age, and
it is not easy.

Sincerely, Faheem Mitha.

Re: Spamassassin, fetchmail, exim, and system resource issues

2002-02-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava

>>"Karsten" == Karsten M Self  writes:

 Karsten> The problem I'm having as a dialup user is when I pull mail
 Karsten> periodically.  With several hundred emails stacked up, I can
 Karsten> readily run into user process limits (256 processes per
 Karsten> user) while handling mail.

I use fetchmail -> sendmail -> mailagent (encapsulates spamassassin)
 The nice thing about mailagent is that the stuff that runs in
 .forward is a C based agent just dumps the mail into a file, quickly,
 and reliably.  Once per run, a single copy of mailagfent is called to
 process the spooled mail.

mailagent rocks.
 
manoj
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 It'll be a nice world if they ever get it finished.
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Re: glade compilation problems

2002-02-22 Thread timothy bauscher

<< I don't remember the name of that new system, but I do see
'gnome-config' on my woody box.  It is in the 'libgnome-dev' package. Try
installing that and see if it helps. >>

libgnome-dev was what I needed.
Problem solved.

Thank you!
(==timothy==)

---

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 04:48:41PM -0500, timothy bauscher wrote:
| I am having some problems compiling my
| first glade application. I have fixed
| several problems so far, but now I am
| having troubles because gnomeConf.sh
| cannot be found.
| 
| I tried an apt-get install gnome-libs
| and an apt-get install gnome-libs-devel,
| but neither where found by apt. What
| should I ask apt to get?

[running autoconf]
| checking for gnome-config... no
| checking for gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib... not found
| configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is
generated
| by gnome-libs install

I think that autoconf isn't quite right in this case.  The simplest
thing you can do is just run the compiler yourself giving it all the
right options.  autoconf is nice if you want your app to build on a
system that may be different than yours.  I believe that the issue is
a reworking of how gtk/gnome lib build options are determined.  There
used to be a script called 'gnome-config' that would output the CFLAGs
and LDFLAGs that gnome apps should be compiled with.  I believe that
has now been consolidated into a single script with a database for the
libs/apps.  It is probably that transition that is tripping things up.
I don't remember the name of that new system, but I do see
'gnome-config' on my woody box.  It is in the 'libgnome-dev' package.
Try installing that and see if it helps.

HTH,
-D

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Re: RAID 1 setup on woody

2002-02-22 Thread Dave Sherohman

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:32:17AM -0800, Richard Weil wrote:
> I need some help setting up RAID 1 on a fresh Woody
> install. The software is newer than the docs,
> particularly for Lilo, so any help from those with
> experience would be most appreicated.

The Software-RAID-HOWTO got me through this one.

> My hda and hdc drives are identical in size. hda is
> divided into multiple partitions -- / (/dev/hda2),
> /boot (/dev/hda1), /home (/dev/hda5), /usr
> (/dev/hda6), /var (/dev/hda7). There is nothing on hdc
> yet.

Step 1:  Partition hdc just like hda.  You should probably set your
partitions to type FD on both drives if you haven't done so already.

> If anyone has a similar setup already working, I'd
> love to see their /etc/raidtab

Just lots of sections that look like:

raiddev /dev/md0
raid-level  1
nr-raid-disks   2
nr-spare-disks  0
persistent-superblock   1
chunk-size  4
device  /dev/hdg1
raid-disk   0
device  /dev/hde1
raid-disk   1

> and lilo.conf files

Pretty bog-standard, aside from the lines:

boot=/dev/md0
root=/dev/md0

> with a brief description of how to get it working
> without deleting anything on hda (i.e., reformating
> the drive).

1.  Partition both drives identically.  Make sure that no partitions
on hdc (except for swap - swap can stripe itself, so don't RAID it)
are larger than the corresponding partitions on hda.

2.  Install on hda.

3.  Create your /etc/raidtab with an md device for each non-swap
partition on hda/hdc.  For now, set up the last 4 lines of each md
device like so:

device  /dev/hdcX
raid-disk   0
device  /dev/hdaX
failed-disk 1

Note that the partition on hdc is listed first and the partition on
hda is listed as a failed-disk instead of a raid-disk.

4.  Start your RAID devices with raidstart.  They will all be
degraded (due to the "failed" partitions on hda), but that's what you
want at this point.  Format the md devices with, e.g., "mke2fs
/dev/mdX".

5.  In single-user mode, copy each partition from hda to the
corresponding md device.  After copying the root partition over, edit
the copy of etc/fstab on the RAID (i.e., /mnt/etc/fstab) to reference
the appropriate md devices instead of the partitions on hda.

6.  Edit lilo.conf, changing the boot and root devices to /dev/md0
and re-run lilo.

7.  Reboot.  When the system comes back up, use mount to check
whether your system is mounted from hda or the RAID devices.  It
should now be on RAID.

8.  Change your partition types on hda to FD if you haven't already
done so, change all the failed-disk directives in /etc/raidtab to
raid-disk, and add the partitions from hda using raidhotadd.

And you're done.  Easy as that.

> -  Can I create a single RAID device (md0) that
> mirrors all of the hda/c, or do I need to create
> separate RAID devices for each partition(md0, md1,
> ...,md4)?

I'm not entirely sure whether it's possible to create an uber-RAID
and partition it using the md driver, but separate md devices works
fine.

> -  Assuming I need one for each partition, what are
> people's thoughts on skipping / and /boot RAID? This
> is the most intimidating part from reading the docs,
> but it would seem to lessen the value of RAID
> considerably.

There's no reason that / and /boot can't be RAIDed also.  If you put
them on RAID, you'll have to reboot to complete the transition, but
that's no big deal.

> -  Is the Boot+Root+RAID Howto still accurate,
> particularly for Lilo?

Never read it.  Like I said, the Software-RAID-HOWTO seems to be
sufficient.

> There's now a RAID boot option in Lilo which I'm not
> sure how it would effect things like boot= and root=.

Not familiar with this option, but I've used the procedure above
several times (I've got 3 or 4 systems running all-RAID) and it works
fine with potato's lilo.  I can't imagine that woody's would have a
problem with it.

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Re: Show me some good newbie intros to GNU/Linux

On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 08:11:33AM +1000, Alan Davis wrote:

| I have found nothing that explains GNU/Linux adequately to my students.

| I have a four machine GNU/Linux (Debian) net in my classroom, for
| student use.  Many students have gotten to know the basics---which
| consists of how to start up Galeon or Netscape, even how to log on as
| "students".  (I set up one account, so far, for most students, and
| leave the machine logged on to that account.  Comments?)

Comments :
if you don't need to track which student did something and if
students don't have any private work they will store on the system
and if students are happy to all use one configuration, then
having a shared account is fine

it is all a matter of what level of security you want/need in your
environment

A counter example :
On my dad's win98 machine one of my brother's kept rearranging the
"start menu" and other things which other users didn't want him to
do.  I, partially, solved it by creating separate "accounts" (not
real multi-user, just independent configs) so that he can screw
with his config as he wishes without affecting others.

| This is a demonstration/proof of concept project.  This is a Biology
| class; I don't have the free reign to spend two weeks on computer
| basics.  I have the students read Sterling's Brief History of the
| Internet, give them a few pointers of web searching, show them galeon,
| and let them search.  Some students do quite well.  

Harley Hahn's Student Guide To UNIX (by Harley Hahn) is quite good,
but I don't recall if it is good for that level of background or not.
It is the book that the CS department at my college recommends for new
students (they use Solaris SPARC in the lab).

| But I CANNOT FIND any single good introduction to GNU/Linux that is
| geared to this leverl.  Here is a typical opening paragraph:
| 
| Linux is a POSIX compliant, UNIX-like operating system, with a kernel
| written by a Finnish graduate student, and etc., etc., etc.  
| 
| Con someone point me to some documents that actually attempt to
| explain what the differences are, from Windoze and the Mac (the two
| computers with which students are obviously acquainted)? 
| 
| I am writing this from scratch.  I am sure someone else has already
| done a better job than I can do---given that unique combination of
| nerd/geek/hacker/teacher?

I don't know if the newbiedoc project has anything suitable for your
use (http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net).  I think most of their focus
is for people who want to install (admin) a Debian system.


Anyways, I commend your efforts to introduce students to Debian.  It
is unfortunate that most people who know anything about computers are
wholly unaware that anything other than Microsoft exists (aside from
Mac).


-D

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look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from
being polluted by the world.
James 1:27

Re: CUPS (2)

* Wayne Topa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> Cam Ellison([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > * Randy Yarger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > Try this suggestion:

> 
> As I have not been following this thread you may already tried this.
> 
> Add to the append line in lilo.conf
> lp=parport0 parport=0x378,none
> 
> The '0x378,none' simply says do not use an IRQ.  I save an IRQ that way.
> 
A good idea, and I think I'll do that in preparation for the next time I 
reboot (which may be sooner, rather than later).  However, there's more 
going on here than just that.  I can't get CUPS to install my Canon 
BJC-4000 properly, to wit: when I try to print, it complains that it
cannot find the necessary translation routine: 
"client-error-document-format-not-supported"

Nothing else prints, either.  :-\

Cam


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Re: glade compilation problems

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 04:48:41PM -0500, timothy bauscher wrote:
| I am having some problems compiling my
| first glade application. I have fixed
| several problems so far, but now I am
| having troubles because gnomeConf.sh
| cannot be found.
| 
| I tried an apt-get install gnome-libs
| and an apt-get install gnome-libs-devel,
| but neither where found by apt. What
| should I ask apt to get?

[running autoconf]
| checking for gnome-config... no
| checking for gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib... not found
| configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated
| by gnome-libs install

I think that autoconf isn't quite right in this case.  The simplest
thing you can do is just run the compiler yourself giving it all the
right options.  autoconf is nice if you want your app to build on a
system that may be different than yours.  I believe that the issue is
a reworking of how gtk/gnome lib build options are determined.  There
used to be a script called 'gnome-config' that would output the CFLAGs
and LDFLAGs that gnome apps should be compiled with.  I believe that
has now been consolidated into a single script with a database for the
libs/apps.  It is probably that transition that is tripping things up.
I don't remember the name of that new system, but I do see
'gnome-config' on my woody box.  It is in the 'libgnome-dev' package.
Try installing that and see if it helps.

HTH,
-D

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is a beautiful woman who shows no discretion.
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Re: [OT] "-" user on solaris

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 02:56:00PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
 
| I can't address your issue, Michel, but I've been dying to say this to 
| someone.
| 
| The only *nix I've ever known is Debian (going on about 4 years now), 

How lucky you are :-).

| and this week I was tasked with putting in a new drive and doing a clean 
| install of Solaris 7 on an Ultra 1. Wow! Debian is to Solaris like 
| Macintosh is to NT on a 486 laptop with proprietary hardware from 
| vendors who are out of business with only 16MB RAM. In other words, my 
| little experience with Solaris so far leads me to the conclusion that 
| compared to Debian (as far as ease of installation/maintenance/extra 
| packages), Solaris sucks.

Yeah, I'll agree with that, even though I haven't admined Solaris
much.  It is really hard to find stuff on the disk and /proc tells you
nothing and ...

| Just thought I should make an OT posting even more OT  :-)

:-).

-D

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Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
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Re: Spamassassin, fetchmail, exim, and system resource issues

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 04:47:52AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
| on Thu, Feb 21, 2002, Alan Shutko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
| > "Karsten M. Self"  writes:
| > 
| > > When pulling mail, I'll see the system spike to 350 or more processes.
| > > It appears that each mail delivery initiates a separate exim process
| > > (which I hadn't expected) and procmail process (this I had).
| > 
| > I don't send fetchmail's output through exim, I just put this in
| > .fetchmailrc
| > 
| > defaults mda "/usr/bin/procmail -f %F"
| > 
| > which serializes mail delivery.  So instead of hitting user limits, it
| > takes a while to go through morning mail... maybe I should try
| > spamd
| 
| spamc/spamd is highly recommended.
| 
| I think the problem is exim's handling moreso than the others,

I agree -- it sounds like exim is forking lots of processes (one for
each delivery) as it tries to deliver all the messages ASAP.  As a
side effect, spamd forks that many times and takes a while to process
the mail.  If the messages come in fast enough (faster than they are
delivered) then the number of processes will increase.

| so your suggesting may be sane.  I trimmed my max messages accepted
| from ~100 to ~50.  I've got exim running queue every five minutes,
| which I think I'll cut to something like 2-3:
| 
| /etc/exim/exim.conf: smtp_accept_queue_per_connection = 50
| 
| ...and the appropriate mod in /etc/init.d/exim.
| 
| If I understand properly, this should cause exim to attempt fewer
| simultaneous delivers, and spread deliveries out over several minutes.

Looking at the spec just now, I think this is the option you want to
tweak.  Another option that you may want to try is :


queue_only_load   Type: fixed-pointDefault: unset

If the system load average is higher than this value, all incoming
messages are queued, and no automatic deliveries are started. If this
happens during local or remote SMTP input, all subsequent messages on the
same connection are queued. Deliveries will subsequently be performed by
queue running processes, unless the load is higher than
"deliver_load_max". There are some operating systems for which Exim cannot
determine the load average (see chapter 1); for these this option has no
effect. See also "smtp_accept_queue" and "smtp_load_reserve".

-D

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Several packages fail to install, exit status 10

2002-02-22 Thread Kent West

Several weeks ago I had a failure trying to uninstall gdm on a sid box. 
Since then, I've been unable to install or uninstall [x|w|g]dm, and 
several other packages have started failing on install. I've been doing 
a dselect update/install just about every day, hoping that whatever's 
broken will get fixed, but so far nothing, and I haven't found any 
helpful information via dogpile or google. Anyone have a solution?

Thanks!


Here's an example of the error:

 .
 .
 .

Removing xdm ...
dpkg: error processing xdm (--purge):
 subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 10
Errors were encountered while processing:
 gdm
 wdm
 xdm
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Some errors occurred while unpacking. I'm going to configure the
packages that were installed. This may result in duplicate errors
or errors caused by missing dependencies. This is OK, only the errors
above this message are important. Please fix them and run [I]nstall again
Press enter to continue.
Setting up cupsys (1.1.13-2) ...
dpkg: error processing cupsys (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xserver-xfree86:
 xserver-xfree86 depends on xserver-common (>= 4.1.0-10); however:
  Package xserver-common is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing xserver-xfree86 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of console-data:
 console-data depends on console-common (>= 0.7.13); however:
  Version of console-common on system is 0.7.12.
dpkg: error processing console-data (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 cupsys-bsd
 xserver-common
 man-db
 cupsys
 xserver-xfree86
 console-data

installation script returned error exit status 100.
Press  to continue.

Show me some good newbie intros to GNU/Linux

2002-02-22 Thread Alan Davis

I am trying to write this myself.  I have found nothing that explains GNU/Linux 
adequately to my students.  I teach Biology at a public high school on the 
island of Saipan, in the Northern Mariana Islands, a commonwealth of the United 
States.  Many of my students have never used computers before.  The highest 
level computer course at our school is computer literacy, which I think is an 
introduction to M$ Works (call that literacy?).  

I have a four machine GNU/Linux (Debian) net in my classroom, for student use.  
Many students have gotten to know the basics---which consists of how to start 
up Galeon or Netscape, even how to log on as "students".  (I set up one 
account, so far, for most students, and leave the machine logged on to that 
account.  Comments?)

This is a demonstration/proof of concept project.  This is a Biology class; I 
don't have the free reign to spend two weeks on computer basics.  I have the 
students read Sterling's Brief History of the Internet, give them a few 
pointers of web searching, show them galeon, and let them search.  Some 
students do quite well.  

But I CANNOT FIND any single good introduction to GNU/Linux that is geared to 
this leverl.  Here is a typical opening paragraph:

   Linux is a POSIX compliant, UNIX-like operating system, with a kernel
written by a Finnish graduate student, and etc., etc., etc.  

Con someone point me to some documents that actually attempt to explain what 
the differences are, from Windoze and the Mac (the two computers with which 
students are obviously acquainted)? 

I am writing this from scratch.  I am sure someone else has already done a 
better job than I can do---given that unique combination of 
nerd/geek/hacker/teacher?

I'm not sure this list is the best place to take up the issue---but it's a good 
one.  

Alan Davis
Marianas High School
Saipan, NMI
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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I have steadily endeavored to keep my mind free, so as to give up any
hypothesis, however much beloved -- and I cannot resist forming one 
on every subject -- as soon as facts are shown to be opposed to it.  
  -- Charles Darwin (1809-1882)

Re: CUPS (2)

2002-02-22 Thread Wayne Topa


Cam Ellison([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> * Randy Yarger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Try this suggestion:
> > http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/samba/2001-December/063385.html
> > It worked for me, just last night. (Basically, uncomment the two lines
> > that are commented out at the bottom of mime.types and mime.convs in
> > /etc/cups).
> > 
> > For your reference, it was the first hit that appeared when I searched
> > google for 'cups application/octet-stream'.
> > 
> Well, I scrapped printtool, and reinstalled cupsys, and made the suggested 
> changes.  No go.
> 
> There's probably something else that I'm doing incorrectly.
> 
> I have a Canon BJC-4000, which uses the cbjc600.ppd driver.  
> I have tried to use parallel:/dev/lp0, lpd://localhost/var/spool/lpd, 
> ipp://localhost:631, and a couple of other combinations.
> Using the command line does not get me any further than using the web admin 
> tool.
> 
> I'm out of ideas.
> 

As I have not been following this thread you may already tried this.

Add to the append line in lilo.conf
lp=parport0 parport=0x378,none

The '0x378,none' simply says do not use an IRQ.  I save an IRQ that way.

:-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)

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glade compilation problems

2002-02-22 Thread timothy bauscher

I am having some problems compiling my
first glade application. I have fixed
several problems so far, but now I am
having troubles because gnomeConf.sh
cannot be found.

I tried an apt-get install gnome-libs
and an apt-get install gnome-libs-devel,
but neither where found by apt. What
should I ask apt to get?

Thank you for your help!
(==timothy==)
"All software sucks. Linux sucks less."

#== output produced by autogen.sh ==

**Warning**: I am going to run `configure' with no arguments.
If you wish to pass any to it, please specify them on the
`autogen.sh' command line.

processing .
Creating ./aclocal.m4 ...
Running gettextize...  Ignore non-fatal messages.
You should update your own `aclocal.m4' by adding the necessary
macro packages gettext.m4, lcmessage.m4 and progtest.m4 from
the directory `/aclocal'
Making ./aclocal.m4 writable ...
Running aclocal  -I macros ...
Running autoheader...
Running automake --gnu  ...
Running autoconf ...
Running ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode --enable-compile-warnings
...
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... missing
checking for gnome-config... no
checking for gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib... not found
configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated
by gnome-libs install

Re: Missing man pages on new sid install

2002-02-22 Thread Colin Watson

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 04:35:47PM -0600, Sean Hendershot wrote:
> Dist-upgraded a base install of potato to sid today.

Seems you didn't upgrade dpkg and apt first ...

> manpage package is installed but the only manpage I have 
> is ae.  Also I have no /usr/bin/man.

You need to install man-db again. Potato's apt doesn't calculate the
upgrade correctly.

> Only dir's under /usr/man are man1 (w/ ae) and man8 (empty). Any idea
> what happened?

Man pages have mostly moved to /usr/share/man. ae is still in the old
location because it's been removed from woody.

Cheers,

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: which driver for Belkin ethernet card?

2002-02-22 Thread Cameron Kerr

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > Would anyone know what driver I would need for a Belkin F5D5000 Desktop 
> > Network Card (pci)?
>
> To answer my own question (so please correct me if I'm wrong), but it's
>the rtl8139.c or 8139too driver.

Probably. Its a function of the chipset. You can tell what chipset a PCI
card has by using the lspci command.

Cameron Kerr
-- 
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RE: [OT] MS/DoJ comments [was: "Blank Messages To Mailing List...", please let that thread die already :P]

2002-02-22 Thread Jeff Bonner

> Anybody here know how do something about this inconvenient
> monopoly? I've read that something is brewing in the beginning
> of March with Microsoft and the courts. Also, there's a Supreme
> Court case regarding the latest 20 year patent extension. Your
> comment should be read by a judge!

In fact, I did submit comments to the Department of Justice, along with
thousands of others (7,500 for, 15,000 against), regarding the upcoming
Microsoft settlement.  The comment period ended 28 January.  Mine are
available for viewing at http://integralogic.com/settle/ if anyone would
like to peruse them.

The government is supposed to publish these comments in the Federal
Register, although due to the cost it may instead put them on CD-ROM.

You can surf the following for additional info:

http://www.wired.com/news/antitrust/0,1551,50290,00.html - Re: comments
http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/ms-settle.htm - Status of MS settlement
http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/ms-major.htm - 45 "major" comments made
http://www.codeweavers.com/~jwhite/tunney.html - Prompted me to write
http://www.microsoft.com/freedomtoinnovate/default.asp - MS answer ;)

Jeff Bonner
Royal Oak MI USA

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Re: ps/2 mouse with serial adapter: no go

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 07:12:55PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I cannot get any ps/2 mouse to work thru a serial adapter.
 
| Is there something else I should be looking at?

Unless you paid a lot of money for your adapter, it is nothing more
than some wires between two differently shaped connectors.  It is
critical for the devices on each end of the adapter to use the same
signalling mechanisms.  This is why only _some_ USB devices can be
plugged into PS/2 ports.  My mouse is an example -- it has both USB
and PS/2 implemented in it, so physically connecting the plug to
either interface works.  For a mouse or keyboard that only works with
one signalling mechanism, it will only work with that same type of
port, regardless of the shape of the connector.

Do you have a reason to not plug the mouse into the PS/2 port?

-D

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Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.
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Re: [OT] "-" user on solaris

2002-02-22 Thread Kent West


Michel Loos wrote:

Hi,

I know it is not Debian related,but if anybody has an idea...
I just found a user with username -
on a sparc/solaris, he has both an entry in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
in shadow he is locked (*LK* as passwd)

NIS should not be running, (and it would be a + entry, I think)

any idea ?

Michel.


I can't address your issue, Michel, but I've been dying to say this to 
someone.


The only *nix I've ever known is Debian (going on about 4 years now), 
and this week I was tasked with putting in a new drive and doing a clean 
install of Solaris 7 on an Ultra 1. Wow! Debian is to Solaris like 
Macintosh is to NT on a 486 laptop with proprietary hardware from 
vendors who are out of business with only 16MB RAM. In other words, my 
little experience with Solaris so far leads me to the conclusion that 
compared to Debian (as far as ease of installation/maintenance/extra 
packages), Solaris sucks.


Just thought I should make an OT posting even more OT  :-)


Kent

Re: undeleting

2002-02-22 Thread Richard Weil

There's a mini-HOWTO; here's a link:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Ext2fs-Undeletion.html

Unmount the partition the data is on as quickly as
possible and then follow the howto. If you do a google
search there was also a recent article someplace about
undelete. Unfortunately it seems to work better if
you're using ext2 than ext3. It is amazing what you
can find.

Richard

--- Dimitri Maziuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Elizabeth Barham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake
> thusly:
> > Kurdt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > does anyone know how to undelete some files?
> > > i did an rm -rf of my .C files of my programming
> project  (it was coded 
> > > in the Makefile, under the make clean option..
> :)
> > > 
> > > tnx Pauwel
> > 
> > There is a book about programming (The Pragmattic
> Programmer?)  that
> > gives general programming advice, one of which is
> to use versioning
> > upon *all* coding - even the trivial ones.
> Hindsight is 20/20, I know,
> > but you might consider it in the future.
> 
> There is also Tao Of Backup: "always have one".
> 
> Dima (FVO "one" >= 2)
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Re: undeleting

2002-02-22 Thread Dimitri Maziuk

* Elizabeth Barham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> Kurdt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > does anyone know how to undelete some files?
> > i did an rm -rf of my .C files of my programming project  (it was coded 
> > in the Makefile, under the make clean option.. :)
> > 
> > tnx Pauwel
> 
> There is a book about programming (The Pragmattic Programmer?)  that
> gives general programming advice, one of which is to use versioning
> upon *all* coding - even the trivial ones. Hindsight is 20/20, I know,
> but you might consider it in the future.

There is also Tao Of Backup: "always have one".

Dima (FVO "one" >= 2)
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linux 2.0.40 [was Re: 2 questions]

2002-02-22 Thread Hans Ekbrand

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 12:57:14PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:22:38 +1100 Matthew Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Not only did the 2.0 series not end at 2.0.36, but it is still going.
> > 2.0.40-rc3 was released only 8 days ago. We'll see a real 2.0.40 in the
> > near future.
> > 
> > http://lwn.net/2002/0221/a/2.0.40-rc3.php3
> 
> Now that's a scary thought... 

Astonishing, I'd say.

> Though I guess it's good for ltsp,
> freesco & tomsrtbt.

There seems to be no good reason to use it on LTSP though. LTSP 3.0 supports 
NFS-swapping out the box, and requires devfs, so a customized 2.4 kernel is the 
way to go for old boxen with low RAM.

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Re: AntiVirus 4 Linux

2002-02-22 Thread Hilko Bengen

"Liam Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on debian-user:

> Bitdefender (www.bitdefender.com) is currently seeking Beta Testers for a
> Linux A/V product. Look under products/beta.

I d/l'd and Aliened it, however it does not work oin my
Debian/unstable system. "Does not work" as in:

,
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bengen $ /usr/local/bd7/shared/bdc
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| Reason: 2
| AVXC(pid:14729) crashed: 0xbffb75d8
| Fault address: 0x
| Reason: 2
| AVXC(pid:14729) crashed: 0xbffb60f0
| Fault address: 0x
| Reason: 2
| AVXC(pid:14729) crashed: 0xbffb4c08
| Fault address: 0x
| Reason: 2
| AVXC(pid:14729) crashed: 0xbffb3720
| Fault address: 0x
| Reason: 2
| AVXC(pid:14729) crashed: 0xbffb2238
| Fault address: 0x
| Reason: 2
| AVXC(pid:14729) crashed: 0xbffb0d50
| Fault address: 0x
| Reason: 2
| AVXC(pid:14729) crashed: 0xbffaf868
| Fault address: 0x
| Reason: 2
| AVXC(pid:14729) crashed: 0xbffae380
| Fault addr

Re: (OT) chicago

2002-02-22 Thread Alex Malinovich

On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 11:56, Rich Puhek wrote:

> tristate. And I've still never found the post office. Everyone in
> Chicago seems to go to the same post office, since they'll tell you how
> long it takes to get there!

I'm guessing that you're just joking, but at least for the benefit of
dman if/when he gets here, some clarification is in order. I can't for
the life of me remember which road it is, (I stick to the Skyway for
most of my city drives) but it runs right through a big building that
says "U.S. Post Office" on it. So, next time you drive through a
building, assuming, of course, that you're SUPPOSED to be driving
through it, and didn't get there due to a traffic mishap, make note of
where it is, and you'll have your Post Office. :)

-Alex

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Re: ps/2 mouse with serial adapter: no go

2002-02-22 Thread Eduard Bloch

#include 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri Feb 22, 2002 um 07:12:55PM:

> I have the device set for /dev/ttyS0, which is correct (un-adapted
> serial mice work fine).

Look through the protocols. XFree has sometimes problems with low-cost
mouse models. Also make sure that you mouse really understands the
serial protocol. Many cheap PS/2 mice cannot do it, and have been never
intended to be connected trough an adapter.

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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Re: Bandwidth limiting

2002-02-22 Thread Nick Jennings

Hi, I am running into the same problem and would like to know if you
could provide a reference URL to some documentation on the various
uses of 'tc' (or iproute in general).

On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 07:33:29PM -0500, Guillaume wrote:
> 
> Thank you all,
> iproute was what I was looking for so long.
> 
> just with this I reduce a little my outgoing bandwidth, but
> interactivity is greatly increased as well as my ping and DL bandwidth !
> 
> # tc qdisc add dev ppp0 root tbf rate 240kbit latency 30ms burst 1700
> 
> Raising the burst (=bucket) increases the outgoing bandwidth to the
> depends of interactivity. Also possible to do this by increasing the
> priority of the small packets.
> 
> Guillaume
> 
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Re: (OT) chicago

2002-02-22 Thread DvB

Juhan Kundla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Greetings to antipodes..
> 
> [tons of haba-haba about cars/trains/trucks/jumbos/whatever skipped]
> 
> Gee, i am glad, i live in country small enough to bicycle around it...
> :)

Not if Americans lived there, it wouldn't be... my town's probably no
bigger than the Chicago loop in area and yet walking or biking it would
mean eventually getting run over. I tried walking about 4 blocks
the other day and got taunted while crossing the 4 lane road in from my
my apartment, which I had to do in three parts: right turn lane on S
side, center lanes and right turn lane on N. There aren't any sidewalks
or bike lanes either.

Peace.

LapTop LCD shifted in X

2002-02-22 Thread McGillan, Patrick

Hi,
I have been attemting to shift my display down on my laptop. By default,
there is a 1/4 inch of unused display showing at the bottom and the top 1/4
inch is off the top of the screen. This only happens in 800x600 mode. In
fact 640x480 mode shows up in the middle of a 800x600 screen size, I.E.
large border all the way around instead of using the full screen.
Some pertinent info;
Latest Debian stable with all patches
DFI 7200 TC Laptop 32mb memory
...and from X startx ...
(--) SVGA: PCI: Cirrus Logic GD7543 rev 0, Memory @ 0x8100, 0x8000
(--) SVGA: clgd7543: LCD display only
(--) SVGA: clgd7543: 800x600 TFT-color (18-bit color) LCD detected
(**) SVGA: chipset: clgd7543
(**) SVGA: videoram: 1024k
(**) SVGA: Using 16 bpp, Depth 16, Color weight: 565
(--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 48.810 MHz
(**) SVGA: Mode "800x600": mode clock = 38.500
(--) SVGA: Virtual Resolution set to 800x600 
(--) SVGA: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024
(--) SVGA: clgd7543: Using programmable clocks
(--) SVGA: cldg7543: Internal memory clock register is 0x1e (Extended RAS)
(**) SVGA: clgd7543: Approximate DRAM bandwidth for drawing: 30 of 107 MB/s
(--) SVGA: cldg7543: Using linear framebuffer at 0x8100 (2064MB)
(--) SVGA: cldg7543: 88576 bytes off-screen memory available
(--) SVGA: cldg7543: Using hardware cursor
(--) SVGA: cldg7543: Using accelerator functions
(--) SVGA: cldg7543: Using BitBLT engine

I've tried using xvidtune, but it doesn't seem to change my screen at all. 

So, I need some new suggestions.
Thanks,
Patrick

Re: undeleting

2002-02-22 Thread Elizabeth Barham

Kurdt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> does anyone know how to undelete some files?
> i did an rm -rf of my .C files of my programming project  (it was coded 
> in the Makefile, under the make clean option.. :)
> 
> tnx Pauwel

There is a book about programming (The Pragmattic Programmer?)  that
gives general programming advice, one of which is to use versioning
upon *all* coding - even the trivial ones. Hindsight is 20/20, I know,
but you might consider it in the future.

Sorry to hear about this, though - it's happened to me, too.

Elizabeth

ps/2 mouse with serial adapter: no go

2002-02-22 Thread schuetz

I cannot get any ps/2 mouse to work thru a serial adapter.

I don't get any error messages, the cursor simply doesn't move.

I'm running the generic VGA server.

I have tried Microsoft, MouseMan, IntelliMouse, and most of the other usual 
protocols.

I have the device set for /dev/ttyS0, which is correct (un-adapted serial mice 
work fine).

Is there something else I should be looking at?



Thanks!

Re: 2 questions

2002-02-22 Thread Ron Johnson

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:22:38 +1100 Matthew Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> dman wrote:
> > It isn't too surprising that it still has a 2.0 kernel packaged for
> > it,  (in fact, .38 must be fairly new since I thought the 2.0 series
> > ended at .36) but the installer uses a 2.2 kernel.
> 
> Not only did the 2.0 series not end at 2.0.36, but it is still going.
> 2.0.40-rc3 was released only 8 days ago. We'll see a real 2.0.40 in the
> near future.
> 
> http://lwn.net/2002/0221/a/2.0.40-rc3.php3

Now that's a scary thought...  Though I guess it's good for ltsp,
freesco & tomsrtbt.

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gnome-error

2002-02-22 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini

Hello,

I ha installed woody in a fresh machine. I have installed the gnome stuff plus 
sawfish wm too. Now, when I point with the mouse the border, buttons or title 
bar of any window in the desktop I hear a "beep". Looking at the .gnome-errors 
file, I found that each beep produces a line in that file. The line is the 
following:

Error: no shuch font, -*-lucidatypewriter-medium-*-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

how can I fix it? I didn't define any custom font in the Gnome Control Center. 

Thanks!

Marcelo
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Re: lilo problem

2002-02-22 Thread Rudy Gevaert

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 12:48:05PM -0500, Bob Thibodeau wrote:
> I'm just coming into the thread, but if you had your initrd=
> in the main section of lilo.conf, try putting it
> in the image section of your Sid kernel. That way,
> no other kernel will try to use it.

Where should I put the init image?  On hda or hdc?  (hdc has sid, hda
has redhat, and my sidkernel is in hda)

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Re: [OT] "-" user on solaris

2002-02-22 Thread Dimitri Maziuk

* Michel Loos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> Hi,
> 
> I know it is not Debian related,but if anybody has an idea...
> I just found a user with username -
> on a sparc/solaris, he has both an entry in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
> in shadow he is locked (*LK* as passwd)
> 
> NIS should not be running, (and it would be a + entry, I think)
> 
> any idea ?

You may have been r00t3d. Try nmap'ing the box (inc. udp scan), 
chkrootkit etc.

All I can tell you is that there's no "-" user on full OEM (or
whatever it's called) install of Solaris 7 and 8. What's the
UID of "-"? If it's 0, be very afraid.

Dima
-- 
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Put me in front of something boring and I can find a near-infinite number 
of really creative ways to bugger off.   -- ADB

RAID 1 setup on woody

2002-02-22 Thread Richard Weil

Hi --

I need some help setting up RAID 1 on a fresh Woody
install. The software is newer than the docs,
particularly for Lilo, so any help from those with
experience would be most appreicated.

My hda and hdc drives are identical in size. hda is
divided into multiple partitions -- / (/dev/hda2),
/boot (/dev/hda1), /home (/dev/hda5), /usr
(/dev/hda6), /var (/dev/hda7). There is nothing on hdc
yet. My plan was to mirror all of hda onto hdc so if
there was a drive failure for one drive the system
would be fully functional.

If anyone has a similar setup already working, I'd
love to see their /etc/raidtab and lilo.conf files
with a brief description of how to get it working
without deleting anything on hda (i.e., reformating
the drive).

Otherwise, the questions I'm grappling with are:

-  Can I create a single RAID device (md0) that
mirrors all of the hda/c, or do I need to create
separate RAID devices for each partition(md0, md1,
...,md4)?

-  Assuming I need one for each partition, what are
people's thoughts on skipping / and /boot RAID? This
is the most intimidating part from reading the docs,
but it would seem to lessen the value of RAID
considerably.

-  Is the Boot+Root+RAID Howto still accurate,
particularly for Lilo? It was written before the Lilo
in Woody and it's not clear to me what still applies.
There's now a RAID boot option in Lilo which I'm not
sure how it would effect things like boot= and root=.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Richard

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Re: CUPS (2)

* Randy Yarger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Try this suggestion:
> http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/samba/2001-December/063385.html
> It worked for me, just last night. (Basically, uncomment the two lines
> that are commented out at the bottom of mime.types and mime.convs in
> /etc/cups).
> 
> For your reference, it was the first hit that appeared when I searched
> google for 'cups application/octet-stream'.
> 
Well, I scrapped printtool, and reinstalled cupsys, and made the suggested 
changes.  No go.

There's probably something else that I'm doing incorrectly.

I have a Canon BJC-4000, which uses the cbjc600.ppd driver.  
I have tried to use parallel:/dev/lp0, lpd://localhost/var/spool/lpd, 
ipp://localhost:631, and a couple of other combinations.
Using the command line does not get me any further than using the web admin 
tool.

I'm out of ideas.

Cam

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Re: PPPoverEthernet vs. PPPoverATM

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 04:47:02PM +0100, VERBEEK, Francois wrote:
| Note that PPPoE is anyway encapsulated in ATM so you eventually get an
| additional (and useless) overhead.

Possibly.  I expect, but have no facts or proof, that a "dsl modem"
will strip out the ethernet frames and use only the payload as the
data part of the ATM cells.  Thus the ATM cell will only contain the
PPP packet, not the entire ethernet frame.  If this is the case, using
PPPoE->ATM bridge->DSL signalling->DSLAM->PPP(oE)->internet
will be no worse than
PPPoA->DSL signalling->PPPoA->internet
apart from the "extra" ethernet segments.

The real difference, then, is ATM vs. ethernet at your box (and the
availability of a corresponding setup at the ISPs end).

| Some say you never feel it, others say you do.
| 
| Anyway, to avoid unnecessary encapsulation is always an advantage. 

Certainly.


My current setup is
(TCP/IP) ethernet -> ATM bridge (cicso 677) -> DSL signalling ->
DSLAM (ATM at ISPs end) -> internet
and it works great.

-D

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Re: lilo problem

2002-02-22 Thread Bob Thibodeau

I'm just coming into the thread, but if you had your initrd=
in the main section of lilo.conf, try putting it
in the image section of your Sid kernel. That way,
no other kernel will try to use it.

Bob


On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 03:47:53PM +0100, Rudy Gevaert wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Due to some workload I've only had the time to look at this now.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 05:12:12AM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote:
> > 
> > hi ya
> > 
> > if it hands on "ramdisk"... remove that initrd line...
> > and/or make sure the file exists as typed
> 
> Wel, I removed the initrd line from lilo.conf, and redhat boots fine,
> but when I try to boot Sid I get a kernel panic, "no init found... try
> passing init= ...etc".
> 
> This is my lilo.conf:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# cat /etc/lilo.conf
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> linear
> default=nieuwekernel
> 
> image=/boot/2.4.17
> label=nieuwekernel
> read-only
> 
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.19
> label=DebianSid
> read-only
> root=/dev/hdc1
> 
> other=/dev/hda1
> label=dos
> 
> > initrd is not needed if your kernel has all the hardware
> > drivers needed to boot...
> 
> So this explains why I get that error?  Because it is still the standard
> kernel from Sid?
> 
> 
> 
> > if you're referring to redhats "simple install"..
> > - just boot the cdrom and tell it upgrade
> > and it will go thru what you got ant ask you 
> > what else you want
> 
> No, I'm referring to Debians install, when you can choosse: Simple or
> advanced install. ;)  How do I get that screen back?  Or, what packages
> do I have to install to get make etc?  (I guess gcc ...?)
> 
> > rh is such a pita aint it???
> 
> Yes!  But let me explain, when I got my new pc and started university I
> wanted GNU/Linux... and redhat was the only one I knew.  After a couple
> of months I got to know Debian (they used it in my studentgroup (don't
> know the right translation...), and I wiped windows out at home and
> installed debian.  On my new pc I had suffered 4 months to configure my
> dualhead that I didn't dare to install debian yet.. but now I bought a
> new hd; so the time has come to switch to debian :).
> 
> Thanks for the help up till now, I hope you can help me with the rest :)
> 
> Cheers,
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Re: (OT) chicago

2002-02-22 Thread Rich Puhek

"Mark S. Reglewski" wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 08:25:02PM -0600, Rich Puhek wrote:
> >
> > I do love driving the Chicago area freeways though. Watch "Road Warrior"
> > before you go and you'll be ready for the evening traffic. Nothing like
> > following someone doing 85 on 355 (speed limit supposedly 55 MPH) and
> > seeing someone even crazier rocket by on the right while burning
> > wreckage sits on the right. Just make sure you've got a lot of quarters
> > (or get Ipass).
> 
> Heh, heh.  You drive the limit?  Speed limits on the expressways (never
> called freeways by the natives) and tollways are *only* recommendations.
> Except around holiday weekends, the roads are only lightly patrolled by
> state troopers.  And their speeder-catching hideouts are well known to
> regular travelers.  Haven't done 55 in twenty years.  Zero tickets in
> twenty years, without using a radar detector.  That should say something
> about speed enforcement around here.
> 
Ummm, sure, I always drive the speed limit. Especially if any members of
the Illinois law enforcement community are on the list :-)

I agree with the assesment of the speed limits. Just add about 15 MPH
and you've got the true limit, aside from the occational traffic tangles
at stuff like hwy 53.

Now if I could only learn the local nicknames. I turn on the TV in the
hotel or the radio in the car thinking that I'll get info on how traffic
is moving on 90, 94, 55, etc. I never hear that, but they will tell you
how fast the Ike is moving inbound, or that there's an accident on the
tristate. And I've still never found the post office. Everyone in
Chicago seems to go to the same post office, since they'll tell you how
long it takes to get there!

Of course, I get the fun of heading back home through Wisconsin. Been
lucky so far, but they've got a reputation when it comes to speeding,
and pricey tickets to boot (over $100 for 66 MPH in a 65 zone, and some
areas they really mean it).

--Rich

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Re: Static route config

2002-02-22 Thread Paul Hampson

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:01:40AM -0600, Jor-el wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>   How do I configure a static route into the startup scripts / files
> so that the route is set at boot time? I dont think
> /etc/network/interfaces will work for this because none of the interfaces
> on the machine belong to the destination net. Here is the config I am
> working with :
> 
> eth0 - 192.168.0.0/24  <-- Uplink to the router
> eth1 - 192.168.1.0/24
> tr0  - 192.168.2.0/24 
> 
> I need to route packets destined for 192.168.10.0/8 onto eth1. I can
> define the route on the command line - just havent figured out where to
> define it so that the system comes up on a reboot with this route also
> defined.

/etc/network/if-up.d/yourscript

Your script will prolly have to check if eth0 is up when
it runs... There's an environment variable being set for you,
but it's not in the docs AFAIK. It's in the source though.
(There's a wishlist bug there for sure. :-)

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Re: Blank Messages To Mailing List With Attachments Containing Message

2002-02-22 Thread Sam Rosenfeld

On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:31:44PM -0500, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 08:27:08PM -, Charlie Grosvenor wrote:
> > Hi
> > I have noticed that a number of people who post to this list post blank 
> > messages, with the actual message attached. Why is this?
> 
> 
> Your best bet is to dump OE and go with either Eurdora (if you must do
> email on Windows) or go with a linux solution like Mutt.
> 
I use debian and mutt and I get gobs of those messages, too.

sam

Re: Xwindows install problem on laptop

2002-02-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry


On 22-Feb-2002 Carlton Ellis wrote:
> I just did my first Debian install last evening.  Compaq Armada 1520 (oldie).
> 
> I used debconf to add Xwindows (HTTP install).  I have never been able to 
> get past the initial screen (after X-windows starts) with all the X's.  The 
> "X" cursor does go to a pointer, and then the machine hangs.  I chose 
> framebuffer option for X-windows.
> 
> I can't seem to interupt the boot process at any point - it boots, checks 
> the disk for errors, gets all set - starts Xwindows and hangs.
> 

don't use a framebuffer.

[OT] "-" user on solaris

2002-02-22 Thread Michel Loos

Hi,

I know it is not Debian related,but if anybody has an idea...
I just found a user with username -
on a sparc/solaris, he has both an entry in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
in shadow he is locked (*LK* as passwd)

NIS should not be running, (and it would be a + entry, I think)

any idea ?

Michel.

Re: is openssh version (in potato) 1.2.3-9.4 vulnerable?

2002-02-22 Thread Paul Hampson

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 11:39:02AM -0500, Walter Tautz wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Paul Hampson wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 02:20:00PM -, Liam Ward wrote:
> > > On 22 Feb 2002 at 9:11, Walter Tautz wrote:
> > > > http://www.cert.org/incident_notes/IN-2001-12.html
> > > > http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2001-35.html
> > > > which apparently refers to ssh1 crc-32 compensation attack detector
> > > > and some other problems?

> > > >   Judging from the page there openssh is fixed only in version 2.3.0
> > > >   and later? Or has the one in potato been patched so that none of
> > > >   these vulnerabilities.

> > > The new version of Nessus (in testing) is complaining about this too.

> > > I think, from looking at the bug reports etc., that in potato the
> > > offending versions of ssh and openssh have been patched so that,
> > > although your version number indicates that you have a problem, the 
> > > truth is that you're safe. All of this is, of course, dependent on
> > > you being up to date with security.debian.org updates.

> > > Can someone confirm this please...

> > Yup, ssh in potato has been patched against the known vulnerabilities
> > in that version of OpenSSH.

> > The version of ssh in sid (and presumably woody) reports
> > its Debian package version as well, so that tools such as Nessus
> > can tell it from the vanilla OpenSSH.

> > If you're curious, this extension was thoroughly debated in
> > debian-devel a fortnight ago or so. :-)

> When you refer to `extension' what do you mean?
The version of ssh in sid (and presumably woody) reports
its Debian package version as well, so that tools such as Nessus
can tell it from the vanilla OpenSSH.

> Also where would I look
> for bug reports for this kind of info? bugs.debian.org?

Which kind of info?
I suspect the answer to either is
/usr/share/doc/ssh/changelog.Debian.gz

And bugs.debian.org if it's a live or recently live
issue. But in this case it's not.

> ps. thanks for confirming the security but I wouldn't
> mind confirming it for myself.
http://security.debian.org would also let you see the various
fixes made to the ssh package...
Alternatively, ask on
debian-security@lists.debian.org

In fact, I whacked '945216 Debian' into goolge, and the
first link was the Debian Vendor Statement at CERT about
VU#945216, which pointed me to DSA-027-1

Of course, the changelog doesn't call it the CRC-32
compensator attack, nor reference the CERT VU#.

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Re: minicom

2002-02-22 Thread Jason M. Harvey

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 07:38:01AM -0500, Kurc, Marcin A. wrote:
| Hi,
| I'm trying to do install linux over serial console, everything is fine 
| until I have to insert root floppy - minicom goes offline 
| and there is no way to hit enter
| 
| Any ideas?
| 
| Marcin Kurc
| CAD Systems Administrator
| Cooper-Standard Automotive 
| 
| 

sorry, i have no idea how to help... 

i'm thinking of doing the same thing - to a compaq pentium laptop...
maybe. do you have any url's to documentation of installing over serial
console? if so, please send them either to me or the list.

thanks,
jason
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Re: undeleting

2002-02-22 Thread David Raeker-Jordan

Kurdt wrote:
> does anyone know how to undelete some files?
> i did an rm -rf of my .C files of my programming project  (it was coded 
> in the Makefile, under the make clean option.. :)
> 

You might try recover. Not sure if it is available for stable.

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tcp wrappers

2002-02-22 Thread Thedore Knab

I have some tcp wrapper syntax problems:

What is wrong here ?

Feb 21 11:30:01 albert sshd[21141]: warning: /etc/hosts.allow, line 18:
can't verify hostname: gethostbyname(WC-44-75.washcoll.edu) failed
Feb 21 11:35:29 albert sshd[21163]: warning: /etc/hosts.allow, line 18:
can't verify hostname: gethostbyname(WC-44-92.washcoll.edu) failed

#line 18,19,20
sshd: .edu, .com, .net, .md.us, .de.us
sshd: 209.243.
sshd: ALL EXCEPT 192.168.1.3, 192.168.1.4, 192.146.226., .ru .it .cz \
.microsoft.com : ALLOW



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Ted Knab

Xwindows install problem on laptop

2002-02-22 Thread Carlton Ellis


I just did my first Debian install last evening.  Compaq Armada 1520 (oldie).

I used debconf to add Xwindows (HTTP install).  I have never been able to 
get past the initial screen (after X-windows starts) with all the X's.  The 
"X" cursor does go to a pointer, and then the machine hangs.  I chose 
framebuffer option for X-windows.


I can't seem to interupt the boot process at any point - it boots, checks 
the disk for errors, gets all set - starts Xwindows and hangs.


???

Carty Ellis

Re: Exim configuration

* Tim Dijkstra ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> R.Pac wrote:
> 
> 

> > eximconfig talks about a visible name for the system is itmy ISP domain
> > name ?
> 
> 
> No it's the name of your machine. Probably something like:
> yourusername.yourisp.net .
> 
> 
Not exactly, since that would imply that your machine is part of your ISP's 
system.  I think what you need to do is make up a domain name for yourself, and 
append your hostname to it.  e.g. my "domain name" is ellisonet, and my 
hostname is treehouse, so: treehouse.ellisonet. If you look in exim.conf, you 
will see that the first uncommented line contains "qualify_domain =".  That is 
where your host plus "domain name" goes.

You are probably better off getting someone else's exim.conf, and amending it, 
rather than trying to use eximconfig.  Phil Brutsche used to have a good one 
posted on his website.  I don't have the URL handy, but a Google search will 
find it for you.

I suggest you read the manual (or portions thereof), though it's a very long 
slog.  Exim is extremely good, but complex, and not for the faint of heart.

Good luck

Cam

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YaOOQ (Yet another Open Office Question)

2002-02-22 Thread Timothy R. Butler

This may sound stupid, but is there an up-to-date Open Office package to be 
had as a deb? I was thinking it might be nice to install it that way rather 
than installing the OpenOffice.org binary which doesn't use package 
management.

  Thanks,
   Tim

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Re: is openssh version (in potato) 1.2.3-9.4 vulnerable?

2002-02-22 Thread Walter Tautz



On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Paul Hampson wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 02:20:00PM -, Liam Ward wrote:
> > On 22 Feb 2002 at 9:11, Walter Tautz wrote:
> > > http://www.cert.org/incident_notes/IN-2001-12.html
> > >  http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2001-35.html
> 
> > > which apparently refers to ssh1 crc-32 compensation attack detector
> > > and some other problems?
> 
> > >   Judging from the page there openssh is fixed only in version 2.3.0
> > >   and later? Or has the one in potato been patched so that none of
> > >   these vulnerabilities.
> 
> > The new version of Nessus (in testing) is complaining about this too.
> 
> > I think, from looking at the bug reports etc., that in potato the
> > offending versions of ssh and openssh have been patched so that,
> > although your version number indicates that you have a problem, the 
> > truth is that you're safe. All of this is, of course, dependent on
> > you being up to date with security.debian.org updates.
> 
> > Can someone confirm this please...
> 
> Yup, ssh in potato has been patched against the known vulnerabilities
> in that version of OpenSSH.
> 
> The version of ssh in sid (and presumably woody) reports
> its Debian package version as well, so that tools such as Nessus
> can tell it from the vanilla OpenSSH.
> 
> If you're curious, this extension was thoroughly debated in
> debian-devel a fortnight ago or so. :-)
> 
> -- 
When you refer to `extension' what do you mean. Also where would I look
for bug reports for this kind of info? bugs.debian.org?

-walter

ps. thanks for confirming the security but I wouldn't mind confirming it
for myself.

Re: CUPS

Thank you, Randy.  Actually, I had noticed that printtool was available, and 
decided to switch to that.  Simple setup, and the test pages print, but there 
is no apparent way to get lp to work.  Despite the fact that test pages print, 
the autodetect feature claims I don't have parport compiled into the kernel.  
It is there.  

With this assistance, I think I'll switch back to cups.

* Randy Yarger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Try this suggestion:
> http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/samba/2001-December/063385.html
> It worked for me, just last night. (Basically, uncomment the two lines
> that are commented out at the bottom of mime.types and mime.convs in
> /etc/cups).
> 
> For your reference, it was the first hit that appeared when I searched
> google for 'cups application/octet-stream'.
> 

Thanks again

Cam

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Re: deleted user but get vim mails from him