Re: What mail program does this?

[Lou Losee]

* Sridhar M.A. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-21 01:13]:
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 09:25:59PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> 
>> Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> > Someone now (it is not SPAM, I now the sender) has sent me a 1.2Mb
>> > jpeg file that mozilla chokes on, meaning he keeps trying to get it
>> > off the server, which fails after a while, who knows why.
>> 
>> fetchmail, mutt, gnus...
>> 
>> > So I want to delete that file from the server, without trying to
>> > download it.
>> 
>> Why not use fetchmail to fetch it?
>> 
> To delete the mails without downloading, use poppy.

If you desire to do it manually, you can use telnet to connect to the
POP server.  Briefly, here is the commands required:

telnet pop.server.ipaddr 110
USER x
PASS y
STAT
LIST x
RETR x
DELE x
QUIT

where:
110 is the normal POP port
x is your userid on the server
y is your password
x is the msg in question

regards,
Lou
> 
> Regards,
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Re: Debian queries

[Paul Johnson]

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David Kanter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 11:46:08PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> Better than any other OS on the market.  You might have to work for
>> parts of it, but jeeze, what other distribution of anything supports
>> 13 architectures?  How much more hardware support does man truly need?
>
> NetBSD?

Ah, yes, David brings up a very good point.  Debian supports 13
architectures on Linux alone, Debian has support for a variety of
kernels.

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Re: supported nics

[Kevin Mark]

On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 01:45:28AM -0400, James LeClair wrote:
> hey all. what network cards are recomended for using with woody ( or 
> sarge for that matter )? i have a couple that work right now and am 
> about to set up a few new boxes and was wondering what the least 
> botherome nics are.
> 
> thanks
> 
Hi James,
the key to getting a workable bit of hardware in *nix is CHIPSET.
Once you know that, you can usually find the appropiate kernel modules
for it. check in the /lib/modules//kernel/drivers/net/
directory and what is there. Many of the local superstores carry cheap
cards like the dlink or netgear that will work. BUT here is a tip, if
you have a card that requires a modules NOT in the installation method,
get a card that is supported by the installation method and use that to
get the basic install and them you can compile your kernel to add support
for a new network card and then swap in the new card. 
IE. have a 'always works' card handy to yank out
of a junk machine to do base installs. Although the new debian-installer
supprts more cards AND now supports wifi IIRC. Also if you have the 'cd
isos' (plain, vanailla, ide-scsi,etc) there are FAQS that say which one
to use for an install based upon your network card and hard drives.
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Re: What mail program does this?

[Sridhar M.A.]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 09:25:59PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
   > 
   > Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
   > 
   > > Someone now (it is not SPAM, I now the sender) has sent me a 1.2Mb
   > > jpeg file that mozilla chokes on, meaning he keeps trying to get it
   > > off the server, which fails after a while, who knows why.
   > 
   > fetchmail, mutt, gnus...
   > 
   > > So I want to delete that file from the server, without trying to
   > > download it.
   > 
   > Why not use fetchmail to fetch it?
   > 
To delete the mails without downloading, use poppy.

Regards,

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[solhlevitt]

please advise how you can help-thank 
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Re: ipopd and "unknown authorization state command"

[Jaldhar H. Vyas]

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Matthijs wrote:

> - Then, using squirrelmail, I accessed my Inbox (which under the hood
> uses IMAP. Logged in without problems, no mail in my Inbox
> - A few seconds later, I tried to access my Inbox again via
> squirrelmail but got a vague error:
> ERROR : Could not complete request.
> Query: SELECT "INBOX"
> Reason Given: Internal error [2004-03-20 12:59:13]
> - From then on, POPping was also not possible anymore.
>

If you check you mbox with a text editor you will probably find one or
more messages with double From lines (not From:)

> > Is /etc/c-client.cf properly set up?  See
> > /usr/share/doc/libc-client*/README.Debian
>
> Good tip. Probably plain text passwords are not enabled.
> Probably in the previous version of ipod (packaged with Debian
> stable), plain tex passwords were enabled but disabled in later
> versions.

Yep, that's exactly what happened.  dpkg-reconfigure libc-client2003debian

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supported nics

[James LeClair]

hey all. what network cards are recomended for using with woody ( or 
sarge for that matter )? i have a couple that work right now and am 
about to set up a few new boxes and was wondering what the least 
botherome nics are.

thanks

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Re: /boot is readonly file system -why?

[Jeremy Nickurak]

On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 18:49, Kenneth Macdoald Karlsen wrote:
> edit fstab eg:
> /dev/hdxx   /boot   ext3defaults 0  2
>  lsof |grep /boot
> kill process that locks boot (eg klogd)
> umount and remount
> or else you have to reboot.

Not so.

First of all, you are correct that /boot is mounted read-only in
accordance with /etc/fstab's settings. This is done because it contains
data that is very important to the function of the system, and being
read-only makes it very hard to accidentally damage it.

That said, you do need to open it to writing any time a package with
files there is updated or installed. To do this without unmounting or
rebooting:

$ mount -o remount,rw /boot

And proceed with the install. After installation is complete, return
/boot to it's original state. (You don't really have to, but again, it's
a good idea to protect that critical data).

$ mount -o remount,ro /boot

If anything about this options isn't obvious, the complete descriptions
will be in `man mount`.

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Re: What mail program does this?

[Paul Johnson]

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Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Someone now (it is not SPAM, I now the sender) has sent me a 1.2Mb
> jpeg file that mozilla chokes on, meaning he keeps trying to get it
> off the server, which fails after a while, who knows why.

fetchmail, mutt, gnus...

> So I want to delete that file from the server, without trying to
> download it.

Why not use fetchmail to fetch it?

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Re: Print Drivers

[Katipo]

Krikket wrote:
One thing I've been banging my head over is how do you load your printer's
drivers?
I just did a Sarge install, and everything is pretty much working exactly
as I could have hoped.  With the exception of the printer.  I don't know
if I forgo to turn it on during the install, or if it just doesn't cover
this part...
Any suggestions as to how I can get my printer working?

Thanks in advance!

Hello Krikket,

What version are you running?
With which kernel image?
Printer make and model?
Is this just for text?
and/or graphic (e.g., Gimp 1.2) reproduction?
Regards,
David.

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Re: Linux clients in network - experiences?

[John Hardcastle]

On 03/21/04 02:45, Cedric Ware wrote:

The main point I'd think of and that you may have missed would be software
installation and maintenance.  Don't assume it's something you only do once
as you're bound to buy more machines, deal with hardware failures, etc.
Centralize your logs, automate everything you can.  Ideally your OS install
procedure should be like "network boot or pop in floppy; enter install
password; check back half an hour later", which should take care of all
configuration and customization.
 

Yes.  Remember too that ordinary users don't need a full Linux 
installation on their PCs so you can save a lot of network 
administration time if you use a live Linux CD like Knoppix for your 
network workstations.  Pick a CD that most closely reflects your needs 
and remaster that to suit your particular requirements if necessary.  
There are many ways you can implement this.

John





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Re: Woody diskette install

[Kevin Mark]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 09:46:52PM -0500, Drogo Bumbleroot wrote:
> -Original Message-
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 03:02:52PM -0500, Drogo Bumbleroot wrote:
> > I'm trying to setup a P166 with woody via floppy since it won't boot 
> > from CD.
> > 
> > I've booted it with a rescue.img diskette.  It will eventually ask for 
> > another diskette while loading linux.bin
> > 
> > I thought the 2nd disk it was looking for was the root.img diskette.
> > 
> > Neither a root.img diskette nor a linux.bin diskette gets this machine 
> > to continue to boot.
> > 
> > Is there a known problem with any of the disk images?
> > 
> > (Yes, I am using rawrite2 to create the diskette out of the images.)
> > 
> > Thanks.
> 
> From: Pigeon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 6:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Woody diskette install
> 
> rescue.bin followed by root.bin works for me. Maybe you have a dodgy floppy?
> 
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> 
> 
> Quite possible.  I'll try again on Monday.  The machine is at work.
> 
> Thanks.
> 

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Hi Drogo,
In my experiece, a floppy is assumed to be 'doggy' unless I can verify
it. I use md5sum on the floppy until it matches the expected number.
This is what I did for my boot floppies.
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Re: OK, I'm a coward...help me feel more at ease?

[Kevin Mark]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 06:31:10PM +0100, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 10:57:53 -0600
> "Cybe R. Wizard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Tired of the 2.4.3 kernel that came with Libranet Debian 1.9.1, I am
> > trying to install the 2.6.4-1-k7 kernel image.  It's all downloaded
> > but synaptic tells me I need to put initrd=initrd.img into my
> > lilo.conf. [...]
> > Is there anything else I need to do before rebooting so I will have a
> > workable system afterward?
> 
> You need at least the module-init-tools (a replacement for modutils).
> For a complete set of required programs, see the kernel documentation,
> especially the "Changes" file. Also, a few modules might have changes
> names, so look for messages about that.
Hi Nicos,
This is a pet peeve of mine: changing module names. Is there some list
of these changes or a simple readme. Also, anyone know how to use
multiple kernel versions AND load the correct modules for each.
/etc/modules is ONE file. So, I have 2.4.x and 2.6.x and with the name
changes, I have to MANUALLY edit /etc/moduels and such.

> 
> Unless you're running some exotic hardware that is not enabled in the
> default kernel images (like some RAID controllers), you should at least
> be able to get to a console and sort the remaining issues out from
> there.
> 
> -- 
> Got Backup?
Hi Cyb,
I would make sure you have the old kernel installed and have the
matching lilo.conf stanza so that you can use it if needed. And as a
backup, use the 'mkboot' to make a boot disk WITH the old kernel image.
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Re: Loading modules at startup

[Jeff Elkins]

On Saturday 20 March 2004 10:13 pm, Didier Caamano wrote:
>Hello, I was wondering how to make the kernel to load modules at
>start up, I know i does it automatically, but I'm having a
>little bit of troubles, I was running with the kernel that comes
>with woody and decided to update to 2.6.4, after that my mouse
>wasn't working, so I issueed:
>
>modprobe mousedev
>modprobe psmouse
>
>but that only works during the computer is on, as soon as I
>reboot it the mouse is gone and I have to issue the command
>again. Is there any way in which I can make this modules to load
>at bootup and not having to issue them afterward?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Have a good day,
>Didier

man modules  
MODULES(5)

NAME
/etc/modules - kernel modules to load at boot time

DESCRIPTION
he  /etc/modules file contains the names of kernel modules that are to be 
loaded at boot time, one per line. Arguments can be given in the same line as 
the module name.  Comments begin with a `#', and everything on the line after 
them are ignored.

SEE ALSO
update-modules(8)
 /usr/src/linux/Documentation/modules.txt

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Loading modules at startup

[Didier Caamano]

Hello, I was wondering how to make the kernel to load modules at
start up, I know i does it automatically, but I'm having a
little bit of troubles, I was running with the kernel that comes
with woody and decided to update to 2.6.4, after that my mouse
wasn't working, so I issueed:

modprobe mousedev
modprobe psmouse

but that only works during the computer is on, as soon as I
reboot it the mouse is gone and I have to issue the command
again. Is there any way in which I can make this modules to load
at bootup and not having to issue them afterward?

Thanks in advance,
Have a good day,
Didier



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nat and dhcp

[uzoma nwosu]

I'm trying to turn my debian box into nat server.  So far, I've got the 
kernel configured with all the netfilter stuff that the IP 
Masquerade-howto on tldp.org said (I'm running 2.4.24, with sarge/sid).  
I've installed dhcpd and it seems to run fine.
So here's my problem:  my laptop (which has a dhcp client thats works on 
campus) can ping my deskstop but that's all.  It can't reach the net.
I have done the echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward thing to turn it 
on and still nothing.  So here is my dhcp.conf  and my 
/etc/network/interface file snippets.  ANY help would be greatly 
appreciated.

king:/proc/sys/net/ipv4# more /etc/dhcpd.conf
#
# Sample configuration file for ISC dhcpd for Debian
#
# $Id: dhcpd.conf,v 1.4.2.2 2002/07/10 03:50:33 peloy Exp $
#
# option definitions common to all supported networks...
option domain-name "mytalon.com";
#option domain-name-servers king.mytalon.com;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
default-lease-time 600;
max-lease-time 7200;
#my declared subnet for eth1
subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.10;
option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
#  option routers prelude.fugue.com;
}
king:/proc/sys/net/ipv4#  more /etc/network/interfaces
# /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
# The loopback interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The first network card - this entry was created during the Debian 
installation
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

#Second network card - 3Com vortex
auto eth1
iface eth1 inet static
  address 192.168.0.1
  netmask 255.255.255.0
  network 192.168.0.0
  broadcast 192.168.0.255
Something else that I don't completely understand (this is my first time 
ever creating a network) is that my laptop picks up 192.168.2.1 from 
DHCPACK when ifup eth0.  Shouldn't it receive on 192.168.0.1?

thanks,

Uzoma

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Curl script for Online Banking access?

[Number Six]

I could probably write this, but it would super-cool if I could use Curl 
to automate a Online Banking Session with my bank.

I'd need to trick it into thinking I was using a recent Mozilla, it 
probably checks for that.

(1) Does this already exist?
(2) Can you think of any potential security or functional downsides to 
this?  I wouldn't want to "mess up" the servers somehow by doing 
something illegal, but D/Ling that data would rock!


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RE: Woody diskette install

[Drogo Bumbleroot]

-Original Message-
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 03:02:52PM -0500, Drogo Bumbleroot wrote:
> I'm trying to setup a P166 with woody via floppy since it won't boot 
> from CD.
> 
> I've booted it with a rescue.img diskette.  It will eventually ask for 
> another diskette while loading linux.bin
> 
> I thought the 2nd disk it was looking for was the root.img diskette.
> 
> Neither a root.img diskette nor a linux.bin diskette gets this machine 
> to continue to boot.
> 
> Is there a known problem with any of the disk images?
> 
> (Yes, I am using rawrite2 to create the diskette out of the images.)
> 
> Thanks.

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rescue.bin followed by root.bin works for me. Maybe you have a dodgy floppy?

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Quite possible.  I'll try again on Monday.  The machine is at work.

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Re: Debian queries

[Roberto Sanchez]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's perfectly possible to
install 2.6 even on the current stable, albeit with a few backports
of

things like module-init-tools and e2fsprogs


I am too much of a newbie to attempt such a thing.  I was raised on
BASIC, on the Timex-Sinclair, C64, TI-994A, then moved to Unix
briefly in college.  However, I have been made largely spoon fed via
Windows since then.  I had to relearn all the fun Unix commands and
directories when starting to work with Linux.  I have lots of work to
do before I can handle things like the above, or even compiling my
own kernel/modules.  Please be patient :)
Thanks for the insight, everyone...looks like I will be giving Debian
a try, but if (and when) I run into issues, I will be back!
For the first year I used Linux (3 months RH before switching
to Debian), I was totally petrified of the thought of compiling
my own kernel.  I ended up just jumping in one day and doing
the `make xconfig && make dep && make bzImage && so on`.
I spent two hours reading every help entry in the xconfig
interface.
Later, I discovered kernel-package.  I read all the docs in
the kernel-package package and learned to build my own kernels
in a much more efficient way.
Since my "doing it the hardway" approach, someone else has been
kind enough to document the process step-by-step:
http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html

My reccomendation is to download the kernel-source-* package
that corresponds to the kernel you run now.  Use the configuration
for your currently running kernel (since you know it works).
After going through the process a few times, you will begin to
feel comfortable tweaking and changing settings.
I find it to be rather rewarding.  You probably will too.

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Re: crontab jobs not running?

[Nitebirdz]

On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 07:17:22AM +, Alan Chandler wrote:
> 
> Just a thought - do you have anacron installed.  Its a while since I have, 
> but I have this feeling that it simulates the running of cron and therefore 
> its the times in /etc/anacrontab that matter
> 

No, anacron is not installed.  In any case, the reboot appeared to clear the
problem, at least when it comes to the use of 'crontab -e'.  Once I got that
working, I didn't bother to check again and see if perhaps "/etc/crontab"
still has the problem with the timezones.  

Many thanks to everyone who provided assistance, especially Martin Dickopp
who sent a few emails back and forth.  


Nitebirdz
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usage of "ifup ppp0" as opposed to "pon"

[H. S.]

(I am using Debian Sarge, running kernel 2.4.24-1-686)

I recently installed new version of iptables and noticed it had made 
some changes to the start up scripts. While going over the 
documentation, I realized that I can use pre-up and up and down and 
post-down commands in the /etc/network/interfaces file to execute my 
firewall scripts. I am totally new to this method and I have it sort of 
working. But the problem is that I am not sure how ifup command relates 
to the pon command. I can have the various commands executed as an 
interface is brought up, but what happens if I just pon (which I think 
brings up the interfaces?). I may not have made myself very clear, so 
feel free to ask that I rephrase.

In the ppp0 section, what do you make of my pre-up, up and down and 
post-down command? At present, "/etc/init.d/networking restart" works 
perfectly fine, so that if I boot my computer I should have my firewall 
up. But "ifdown ppp0" says:
# ifdown ppp0
/usr/bin/poff: I could not find a pppd process for provider 
'dsl-provider'. None stopped.

"ifup ppp0" works fine. But I am not sure what happens if I use the 
usual method of pon and poff. Also, this troubles me because I guess 
"pon" activates my connection on start up. If this command ignores the 
ppp0 section in interfaces file, I will be without my firewall till I 
manually bring it up.

Here is my interfaces file:
# cat /etc/network/interfaces
# Used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8). See the interfaces(5) manpage or
# /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples for more information.
# /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
# The loopback interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The first network card - this entry was created during the Debian 
installation
# (network, broadcast and gateway are optional)
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.1.0
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.0
broadcast 192.168.0.255
#drop everthing on all interfaces except lo
pre-up /etc/iptables/iptables.sh panic
#get the rules up which do not require my DSL IP
pre-up /etc/iptables/iptables.sh preup_start
auto eth1
iface eth1 inet static
address 192.168.0.2
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.0
broadcast 192.168.0.255
#gateway 192.168.1.0

#this is for ppp0 configuration
auto ppp0
iface ppp0 inet ppp
#pre-up /etc/iptables/iptables.sh preup_start
#pre-up ip link set eth0 up
#now that ppp0 is up, implement more detailes rules that
#use the IP address that my DSL provider assigned me just now
up /etc/iptables/iptables.sh start
provider dsl-provider
down poff -a
post-down /etc/iptables/iptables.sh stop


In the above:
"/etc/iptables/iptables.sh preup_start" command implements a ruleset 
that does not use any public IP of my machine, and
"/etc/iptables/iptables.sh start" commands first obtains the IP address 
that my provider assigns me (I get a new one everytime I logon) and then 
implements a rule set with more details using this IP address.



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Re: Can't use gaim with yahoo account

[Kent West]

Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:

I am using debian testing.
Since I cannot find yahoo messenger in the debian packages, I thought 
of using gaim. But in gaim, whenever I go to accounts button and click 
on the on-line box, a window pops up and says something like this

username has been disconnected
date
unable to read
   reconnectclose

Even If I click on reconnect, nothing happens...

I am able to use hotmail account without any problem. The only problem 
is with yahoo account. Can someone tell me what I should do?

thanks
raju

Same here. Yahoo has a tendency to change their protocol every so often, 
which breaks third-party clients. Not much to do about it except wait 
for the GAIM maintainers to reverse-engineer the new protocol and 
release an updated client, or use Yahoo's client (ymessenger, not in the 
Debian respository, as you've already discovered).

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re:Debian queries

[users]

> It's perfectly possible to
> install 2.6 even on the current stable, albeit with a few backports
of
> things like module-init-tools and e2fsprogs

I am too much of a newbie to attempt such a thing.  I was raised on
BASIC, on the Timex-Sinclair, C64, TI-994A, then moved to Unix
briefly in college.  However, I have been made largely spoon fed via
Windows since then.  I had to relearn all the fun Unix commands and
directories when starting to work with Linux.  I have lots of work to
do before I can handle things like the above, or even compiling my
own kernel/modules.  Please be patient :)

Thanks for the insight, everyone...looks like I will be giving Debian
a try, but if (and when) I run into issues, I will be back!

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Re: /boot is readonly file system -why?

[Kenneth Macdoald Karlsen]

On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 02:29, glenn wrote:
> Hi - I'm trying to install kernel-image-2.6.4, however along the way
> dpkg complains that the boot directory is read-only (/boot=/dev/hdb1 and
> /=/dev/hdb3) like so:
> --
> Unpacking kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686 (from
> .../kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686_2.6.4-1_i386.deb) ...
> dpkg: error processing
> /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686_2.6.4-1_i386.deb
> (--unpack):
>  unable to create `./boot/config-2.6.4-1-686': Read-only file system
> ---
> Can anyone tell me why my boot filesystem might be read-only, and what
> can I do about it?
> For what its worth ls -l shows both /boot and all its contents to be +
> rw
> 
> Thanks 
> Glenn
> 
> 

edit fstab eg:
/dev/hdxx   /boot   ext3defaults 0  2
 lsof |grep /boot
kill process that locks boot (eg klogd)
umount and remount
or else you have to reboot.
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/boot is readonly file system -why?

[glenn]

Hi - I'm trying to install kernel-image-2.6.4, however along the way
dpkg complains that the boot directory is read-only (/boot=/dev/hdb1 and
/=/dev/hdb3) like so:
--
Unpacking kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686 (from
.../kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686_2.6.4-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686_2.6.4-1_i386.deb
(--unpack):
 unable to create `./boot/config-2.6.4-1-686': Read-only file system
---
Can anyone tell me why my boot filesystem might be read-only, and what
can I do about it?
For what its worth ls -l shows both /boot and all its contents to be +
rw

Thanks 
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Can't use gaim with yahoo account

[Kamaraju Kusumanchi]

I am using debian testing.
Since I cannot find yahoo messenger in the debian packages, I thought of 
using gaim. But in gaim, whenever I go to accounts button and click on 
the on-line box, a window pops up and says something like this

username has been disconnected
date
unable to read
   reconnectclose

Even If I click on reconnect, nothing happens...

I am able to use hotmail account without any problem. The only problem 
is with yahoo account. Can someone tell me what I should do?

thanks
raju
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Kernel 2.6 & wireless USB

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Hallo!

Is anyone using kernel 2.6 & an USB wifi card together?

I've tryed 2 different USB wifi cards -I'm using SID & 2.6.4 with debian 
patches-, and it seems not to recognize the device.  I mean that the USB 
system is not able to identify the card:
- -
usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using address 2
usb 2-1: device not accepting address 2, error -110
hub 2-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1.  Maybe the USB cable is bad?
- -

The above message is when plugging a ZyAir B-220 USB wifi card, and I've also 
tryed an Amper USB wifi card with an earlier 2.6 kernel (this was working 
fine with 2.4 kernel), showing the same error.

Thanks in advance  ;)

PD  it is working fine under XP
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Re: how to shape incoming traffic on specific port?

[David Clymer]

On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 11:15, Sergey Spiridonov wrote:
> David Clymer wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 19:18, Sergey V. Spiridonov wrote:
> 
> >>I need to limit incoming traffic on the specific port (I experimented
> >>with ssh). Outgoing traffic can me easely limited with tc, but I have
> >>problems with incoming traffic. I tried to drop some packets, but after
> >>this ssh stop working at all.
> >>
> >>Is there any standard way to do incoming traffic limitation?
> > 
> > 
> > What sort of set up is this? Is the box serving as a router, or a server
> > of some sort? What are you interested in policing? What kernel version
> > are you running?
> 
> Thank you for long reply.
> 
> It is a network of 12 machines with kernels 1x2.6.4, 2x2.6.2, 1x2.4.20,
> 3x2.4.18, 5x2.4.16 organized in two subnets. I need to limit network
> input/output bandwidth for specific port on some selected machines in
> various combinations for simulating another network.
> 
> > if the box is serving as a router/firewall, and you want to limit
> > traffic to a box behind it. you could forget about policing, and instead
> > use traffic shaping (policing is incoming traffic, shaping is outgoing)
> > on the packets you are sending to that box. That way, you can use tc and
> > your qdisc of choice to delay or prioritize traffic in a more flexible
> > way. AFAIK, you cannot use any of the fancy qdiscs on incoming packets,
> > only on outgoing.
> 
> Yes, I understand this. I already managed to shape outgoing traffic. One
> of the possibility to shape incoming traffic for host "A" is to shape
> outgoing traffic from all other hosts to A. It is possible, but not very 
> convenient (imagine, to change bandwidth for one host I will need to 
> change configuration on 12 hosts). I thought there is a way to do it 
> just by configuring target host "A".
> 
> > Using the shaping method, you could use PRIO to prioritize say
> > interactive traffic (including ssh) or (depending on your kernel
> > version) could use some iptable rules in conjuntion with a heirarchy of
> > HTB schedulers to modify traffic.
> 
> The above statement is valid just for outgoing traffic, isn't it?
> 

Yes. My assumption was that you would be recieving a packet on one
interface and sending it to another interface. I would think that a
packet is put in an incoming queue on the first (external network)
interface and an outgoing queue when sent from the 2nd (internal
network) interface. If the packet is outgoing on the 2nd interface,
wouldnt one be able to use qdiscs to shape traffic being sent to the
internal network - effectivly shaping incoming traffic? I'm certainly no
expert on this type of thing, so I may not understand how these things
are handled, it was just an idea :)

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Re: CUPS

[Alan Shutko]

Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What's the difference between lp and lpr (other than the option syntax)? 
> I think I had a bad /etc/printcap until I ran magicfilterconfig, so I
> don't think lp would have worked.

If you have only the CUPS lp and lpr clients, the only difference is
the option syntax.

They don't use the printcap at all.  The cups server can generate a
fake printcap so that applications which look at it to determine
which printers are available work.

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Re: Print Drivers

[Kent West]

Krikket wrote:

One thing I've been banging my head over is how do you load your printer's
drivers?
I just did a Sarge install, and everything is pretty much working exactly
as I could have hoped.  With the exception of the printer.  I don't know
if I forgo to turn it on during the install, or if it just doesn't cover
this part...
Any suggestions as to how I can get my printer working?

Thanks in advance!

Krikket

 

Setting up is not part of the install.

Further more, it's a black art.

It depends on a lot of things: is it a locally attached printer, or a 
network printer? Is it USB, or serial, or LPT? Is it a real printer, or 
a "win-printer" (in which case, Good Luck, Buddy; you'll need it)?

Assuming it's a printer that will work with Linux, probably the easiest 
way is to use CUPS (although there are other methods).

 apt-get install cupsys-client cupsys-bsd

Then use your web browser to go to "localhost:631" and you'll find a GUI 
for setting up your printer. You may also need to install some other 
packages, such as foomatic-filters-ppds and cupsys-driver-gimpprint, but 
I'm not sure what all you'll need; as I said, it's a black art.

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Re: LCD Terminal

[Jeff Elkins]

On Saturday 20 March 2004 06:53 pm, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
>On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 02:54:16PM -0500, Jeff Elkins wrote:
>> >This is one of the things a Knoppix or Mepis live CD is great for. Pop it
>> > in, then copy the resulting XFConfig-4 file somewhere safe.
>> >
>> >Jeff
>>
>> On Saturday 20 March 2004 02:21 pm, you wrote:
>> >I am not familiar with these. What do they do and where are they
>> > available?
>>
>> http://www.mepis.org/
>> http://www.knoppix.org/
>
>I think once I spent about 10 minutes trying to locate the download
>link of mepis, and gave up. Maybe it has changed, but then it was more
>less clear that they were trying to make it very difficult.

I downloaded the Mepis CD last year, in Nov. I think, and don't recall any 
problems. A live CD is a great addition to the toolbox. My brother-in-law 
does onsite repairs and uses the Knoppix CD I burnt him constantly. Its also 
a great Linux advocacy tool.

Jeff




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Re: dual-boot after crash

[Kent West]

Luis Finotti wrote:

Hi,

I recently had some problems with my computer and had
to reinstall Windows XP.  After I done that, I don't
get the LILO screen with boot options anymore.  It
starts XP automatically.  I checked and the Windows XP
C: drive is the size of the original partition, so I
think my Linux partition is still there.
 

For conceptual purposes, think of your hard drive as having three 
partitions, the WindowsXP partition, the Linux partition, and the Master 
Boot Record (MBR) partition.

Windows believes it's the only OS that anyone will ever have on a hard 
drive, so when you (re)install it, it automatically takes over the MBR 
with its own boot code, wiping out whatever was there beforehand.

So all you have to do is re-take the MBR from the control of Windows, 
and put it back in the hands of LILO.

So, I would like to set the computer for dual-boot
again.  But at this point I don't have access to the
Linux partition.  I just made a bootable floppy from:
http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/index.html

So, I guess that that will allow me to "see" the linux
partition.
I am not sure if after the crash my linux partition is
OK.  So I wanted to check its integrity.  (cfsck?) 
How would I do that?
 

When you boot into Linux, it'll automatically check the file systems' 
integrity if necessary. Or you can do it manually with fsck.

Finally how would I make Lilo give me the dual-boot
option?
 

Boot into Debian using your boot floppy; you'll need to enter some 
parameters at the "boot:" prompt, like
 boot: linux single root=/dev/hda2
Where the "hda2" part points to your Debian's root partition.

Once you're logged in via this single-user mode, just run "lilo" (or 
"/sbin/lilo" if the full path is needed), and then reboot (with "reboot").

Voila! It's fixed.

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Re: Flash and Firefox (was Re: Mozilla Firefox Plugins)

[Kent West]

Patrick Wiseman wrote:

Well, apparently, I lied - after restarting Firefox a second time, at
least some flash sites are working just fine.
 

Yeah, but what about http://www.homestarrunner.com? That's the only 
Flash site anyone really needs. :-)

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Re: LCD Terminal

[Antonio Rodriguez]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 02:54:16PM -0500, Jeff Elkins wrote:

> >This is one of the things a Knoppix or Mepis live CD is great for. Pop it
> > in, then copy the resulting XFConfig-4 file somewhere safe.
> >
> >Jeff
> 
> On Saturday 20 March 2004 02:21 pm, you wrote:
> >I am not familiar with these. What do they do and where are they available?
> 
> http://www.mepis.org/
> http://www.knoppix.org/
> 

I think once I spent about 10 minutes trying to locate the download
link of mepis, and gave up. Maybe it has changed, but then it was more
less clear that they were trying to make it very difficult.


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Re: Print Drivers

[Kenneth Macdoald Karlsen]

On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 00:12, Chris Metzler wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 17:38:47 -0500 (EST)
> Krikket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > One thing I've been banging my head over is how do you load your
> > printer's drivers?
> > 
> > I just did a Sarge install, and everything is pretty much working
> > exactly as I could have hoped.  With the exception of the printer.  I
> > don't know if I forgo to turn it on during the install, or if it just
> > doesn't cover this part...
> > 
> > Any suggestions as to how I can get my printer working?
> 
> What's the actual problem (i.e., in what way does your attempts to print
> fail)?  What have you tried so far that hasn't worked?  What have you
> read that didn't make sense?  People write long, detailed HOWTOs and
> other documents about printing; without giving us some detail, it's hard
> to know what of all that to say.
> 
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> 
> -c
Another url that could be of interst is:
http://www.linuxprinting.org/
http://www.linuxprinting.org/linux-kongress-tutorial-2002.html
also
http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/ IF you have a hp deskjet (hint hpijs)
After you have read that and installed cups you are a full blown
print-guru.
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Re: aptitude update is boke

[glenn]

Hi Rodney - 
First make sure you don't have aptitude, apt or dpkg or dselect, or
synaptic, or gnome-apt etc etc in the middle of something somewhere on
another login/console.
The remove the lock files...
ok lets see if I can remember all of them.
rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
rm /var/lib/aptitude/lock
rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
I've got a hunch there might be another one - these  seem to work for me
50% of the time though - Disclaimer - I really don't know the
consequences of doing this, it just seems to fix the problem for me
Good luck 
Glenn

On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 09:34, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> I'm attempting to upgrade my friends laptop. As root, running "aptitude
> update". it does it's thing, but at the end I get this message;
> 
> Fetched 2914kB in 41s (69.4kB/s)
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree
> Reading extended state information... Done
> W: Warning: could not lock the cache file file. Opened in read-only mode
> 
> What is this error, how do I get his fixed.


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Sendmail Auth only

[Jody Grafals]

I actually got sendmail setup to use  Auth. But how do I tell it to only 
accept mail from an authenticated  user. It's now accepting connection 
with and without authentication.

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Re: Print Drivers

[Chris Metzler]

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 17:38:47 -0500 (EST)
Krikket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One thing I've been banging my head over is how do you load your
> printer's drivers?
> 
> I just did a Sarge install, and everything is pretty much working
> exactly as I could have hoped.  With the exception of the printer.  I
> don't know if I forgo to turn it on during the install, or if it just
> doesn't cover this part...
> 
> Any suggestions as to how I can get my printer working?

What's the actual problem (i.e., in what way does your attempts to print
fail)?  What have you tried so far that hasn't worked?  What have you
read that didn't make sense?  People write long, detailed HOWTOs and
other documents about printing; without giving us some detail, it's hard
to know what of all that to say.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

-c

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Re: Woody diskette install

[Pigeon]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 03:02:52PM -0500, Drogo Bumbleroot wrote:
> I'm trying to setup a P166 with woody via floppy since it won't boot from
> CD.
> 
> I've booted it with a rescue.img diskette.  It will eventually ask for
> another diskette while loading linux.bin
> 
> I thought the 2nd disk it was looking for was the root.img diskette.
> 
> Neither a root.img diskette nor a linux.bin diskette gets this machine to
> continue to boot.
> 
> Is there a known problem with any of the disk images?
> 
> (Yes, I am using rawrite2 to create the diskette out of the images.)
> 
> Thanks.

rescue.bin followed by root.bin works for me. Maybe you have a dodgy
floppy?

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Re: Linux clients in network - experiences?

[Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder]

On Saturday 20 March 2004 11.01, Paul Johnson wrote:
> You might want to submit your public key to
> x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu/ so others may fetch it.

It is there.

Key id is 0x92082481, but pgp.mit.edu is b0rked and
 - carries only a corrupted version of my key and
 - can't search by subkey (which is what I use to sign).

Better use subkeys.pgp.net as your keyserver. More info on 
.

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Re: What mail program does this?

[Ralph Katz]

On 03/20/04 16:30, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Thank you guys!! I got rid of it.


Here's another way for next time.  A universal option to manage pop mail 
accounts is to use a web portal like https://www.mail2web.com/





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Re: Linux clients in network - experiences?

[Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder]

Yo!

On Saturday 20 March 2004 14.45, Cedric Ware wrote:
> > [debian-security CC:ed since people there certainly have experience in
> > the 'Server/network set up' section below. Please don't crosspost when
> > you reply.
>
> Well, what about people subscribed to only one list but interested in both
> aspects of your message? :-)

They can always read the list archive :-)
[replying to both - I dunno which list you are on.]

> The main point I'd think of and that you may have missed would be software
> installation and maintenance.  Don't assume it's something you only do once

I wasn't mentioning it because I saw a thread or two discussing this a few 
months back, so I have quite a few pointers from there.

> http://www.infrastructures.org/
bookmarked - didn't know it.

> This doesn't solve the problem of installing new software / updating the
> configuration on multiple machines.  A shared /usr/local can help for
> non-packaged software and for part of the configuration (symlinks from /etc
> for selected files).  For the rest, one could use a special .deb whose
> installation scripts and dependency list makes the necessary changes, but
> alas I've not tried it yet.

I've been doing the custom config .deb thing on a few machines, but not for 
long. I feel this can solve a lot of problems.

> Of course, you had better make sure not to be the only one who understands
> the system, unless you intend to work there forever with no vacations.

:-)

[NFS]
> Perhaps it can be secured if all traffic on
> your network is IPsec-based?

I'm thinking about that - it would also solve most wifi-router and plugged-in 
laptop problems.

> >  - what is the color of my briefs?
> White and blue, separated along a diagonal?

I'm from Basel, though, and just in Zürich because I have to (well, might be 
that my girlfriend has something to do with it, too).

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Re: Which package creates /etc/environment?

[Phil Edwards]

On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 10:44:05PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Phil Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Because 'dpkg -S' can't find it.
> 
> Right, nothing in Debian provides it.

This turns out not to be the case.  After some more grepping, I found
that locales.postinst can create it.  Probably other things can too (this
bonobo lib thingy, for example).  I'm thinking now that this is supposed
to be one of those common files that everything can use, but nothing is
responsible for.  All well and good, but it should be documented somewhere.
(The traditional Unix solaution would be a single paragraph, made available
by "man 5 environment", but whatever.)


> > And more to the point, what's looking at that file?  It isn't my login shell,
> > it isn't any of the setup files that it looks at (.bashrc and so
> > forth).
> 
> Actually, it is.  You can set site-wide variables there.

Um.  Let me elaborate.   When I said that it isn't the login shell, I
meant that strace'ing a shell session showed no sign of reading that file.
When I said that it isn't any of the setup files, I meant that a depth-first
inspection by hand never found any ". /etc/environment" lines.

So, yeah, /something/'s looking at it, and if I can reassure myself with
proof that I know what that something is -- i.e., and know not to remove
it from the system -- then I might start putting variables in there myself.

Did it show up recently?  I never saw it in a woody installation.  How long
have you been using it?

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Print Drivers

[Krikket]

One thing I've been banging my head over is how do you load your printer's
drivers?

I just did a Sarge install, and everything is pretty much working exactly
as I could have hoped.  With the exception of the printer.  I don't know
if I forgo to turn it on during the install, or if it just doesn't cover
this part...

Any suggestions as to how I can get my printer working?

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aptitude update is boke

[Rodney D. Myers]

I'm attempting to upgrade my friends laptop. As root, running "aptitude
update". it does it's thing, but at the end I get this message;

Fetched 2914kB in 41s (69.4kB/s)
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree
Reading extended state information... Done
W: Warning: could not lock the cache file file. Opened in read-only mode

What is this error, how do I get his fixed.

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Re: /dev/cdrom and 2.6 - what should /dev look like and how do I get there the Right Way

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Peter Sebastian Masny (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I want to try to get my cd burner working with 2.6, but the mappings
> in /dev are weird.  My cdrom is on hdd (not hdc).
> 
> /dev contains:
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root  11 Dec 14 22:31 cdrom ->
> /dev/cdrom0
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root  8 Dec 14 22:31 cdrom0 -> /dev/hdc
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root  8 Nov 25 12:14 cdrom1 -> /dev/hdc
> brw-rw1 root disk  22,  64 Oct  4 06:48 hdd

Looks like discover did this.

> Should I change this directly by hand or is there an automated way?
> Also, I want the cd device to be in the "cdrom" group, but not hdd in
> "cdrom" (someday, hdd may be used by a hard drive in my system.. who
> knows...)

You can change this manually. However, if you use discover, maybe it
will revert your changes. You should link cdrom to hdd and change
ownership for hdd from root.disk to root.cdrom. With kernel 2.6 you
won't need ide-scsi emulation for cd writing (if your cd writing
applications are new enough).

> /dev also has a bunch of other references to cdroms, but they are not
> familiar to me.
> 
> How should I fix this the Right Way?
> [...]

I think you can leave these device files alone.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: dual-boot after crash

[Shri Shrikumar]

On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 21:49, Luis Finotti wrote:
> I recently had some problems with my computer and had
> to reinstall Windows XP.  After I done that, I don't
> get the LILO screen with boot options anymore.  It
> starts XP automatically.  I checked and the Windows XP
> C: drive is the size of the original partition, so I
> think my Linux partition is still there.
> 
> So, I would like to set the computer for dual-boot
> again.  But at this point I don't have access to the
> Linux partition.  I just made a bootable floppy from:
> 
> http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/index.html
> 
> So, I guess that that will allow me to "see" the linux
> partition.
> 
> I am not sure if after the crash my linux partition is
> OK.  So I wanted to check its integrity.  (cfsck?) 
> How would I do that?

Hi,

If you use a debian rescue disk, you can boot into your system this by
passing the kernel the correct arguments such as

linux root=/dev/yourrootpartition

after its booted up, you should be able to just run lilo to re-install
it.

HTH,

Shri

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Re: What mail program does this?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

dragon wrote:
hello,

i do such things with popcheck on the console ;)

greetz

This suits my purposes. But popcheck isn't clear (to me ;-)) as to what 
to do after marking a message with D, you hit S, or does hitting D take 
effect immediately?

Hugo.

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dual-boot after crash

[Luis Finotti]

Hi,

I recently had some problems with my computer and had
to reinstall Windows XP.  After I done that, I don't
get the LILO screen with boot options anymore.  It
starts XP automatically.  I checked and the Windows XP
C: drive is the size of the original partition, so I
think my Linux partition is still there.

So, I would like to set the computer for dual-boot
again.  But at this point I don't have access to the
Linux partition.  I just made a bootable floppy from:

http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/index.html

So, I guess that that will allow me to "see" the linux
partition.

I am not sure if after the crash my linux partition is
OK.  So I wanted to check its integrity.  (cfsck?) 
How would I do that?

Finally how would I make Lilo give me the dual-boot
option?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Best to all,

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Re: What mail program does this?

[dragon]

hello,

i do such things with popcheck on the console ;)

greetz

"Hugo Vanwoerkom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Hi Debian!
>
> I normally use Mozilla to retrieve mail from my ISP mailserver.
>
> Someone now (it is not SPAM, I now the sender) has sent me a 1.2Mb jpeg
> file that mozilla chokes on, meaning he keeps trying to get it off the
> server, which fails after a while, who knows why.
>
> So I want to delete that file from the server, without trying to
> download it.
>
> What program does this? Or may be better yet, how do I do that? And
> calling the ISP is not an option.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Hugo.
>
>




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Re: Flash and Firefox (was Re: Mozilla Firefox Plugins)

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 at 3:13pm, Kent West wrote:

:Patrick Wiseman wrote:
:
:>On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 at 8:50pm, Kenneth Macdoald Karlsen wrote:
:>
:>:On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 17:09, James Hosken wrote:
:>:> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
:>:> Hash: SHA1
:>:>
:>:> Is there a way to apt-get firefox plugins?
:>:> I can't find any when searching apt-cache, but I'm sure there will be.
:>:>
:>:> Can any one point me in the right directions?
:>:> Thanks
:>:> J
:>:>
:>:Apt-get for some other mozilla browser and then you copy plugins to:
:>:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
:>
:>I just installed the Flash plugins to that directory (and verified that
:>they're there) but when I restart firefox, still no functioning flash.
:>Pages with Flash just do nothing.  Any suggestions?
:>
:>Patrick
:>
:>
:>
:What are the permissions on the plugin files?

Well, apparently, I lied - after restarting Firefox a second time, at
least some flash sites are working just fine.

Patrick


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Re: What mail program does this?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:



Thank you guys!! I got rid of it.

I tried 2 webmailer accounts I have, Yahoo! said that the server did not 
support LAST, and care2 that my mailbox was not big enough.

So next I installed fetchmail and fetchmailconf, through my super-duper 
7 woody CD's all loopmounted and configured fetchmail.

Then I did "fetchmail -a -l 1 -F" and voilá... 1.8 meg file gone.

Hugo.

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Re: KDE Mouse Failure

[Pigeon]

On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 10:19:53PM -0800, Clyde Wilson wrote:
> Yes, when I tried to start it wouldn't come up.  Plenty of messages but 
> no error messages.
> I commented out the extra mice one at a time with the same results.
> 
> It bothers me that XF86Config works fine with gnome but not with kde...

Reading your post more carefully than I did the first time :-/ the
message "Caught signal 4" refers to encountering an illegal
instruction. So maybe you have a damaged package... try reinstalling
kde (kdebase, kdebase-libs, kdelibs3), or failing that reinstall X. If
none of that works it might be an idea to post your XFree86.0.log.

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Re: What mail program does this?

[Pigeon]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 07:57:21PM +0100, Julius Plenz wrote:
> * Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-20 19:48]:
> > So I want to delete that file from the server, without trying to 
> > download it.
> > 
> > What program does this? Or may be better yet, how do I do that? And 
> > calling the ISP is not an option.
> 
> I havent tested it but i think this should work (if fetchmail is set
> up correctly):
> 
> fetchmail -a -l 1 -F
> 
> This will flush (=delete) all messages with a size _over_ 1 Byte. :)
> Do you have Access to a WebMailer? I had a similar problem recently
> and solved it by removing the message throu the webinterface...

Or for an interactive command-line method try pop3browser.

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Re: OK, I'm a coward...help me feel more at ease?

[Paul E Condon]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 10:57:53AM -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> Tired of the 2.4.3 kernel that came with Libranet Debian 1.9.1, I am
> trying to install the 2.6.4-1-k7 kernel image.  It's all downloaded but
> synaptic tells me I need to put initrd=initrd.img into my lilo.conf. 
> That I have done, and also run   but still avoid rebooting, one,
> because I have my best uptime going right now([EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> uptime 10:51:44 up 64 days, 10:31, 6 users, load average: 0.15, 0.28,
> 0.22), and, two, because I'm an inherent coward and don't know enough
> about this to feel secure. Is there anything else I need to do before
> rebooting so I will have a workable system afterward? I've busted things
> several times in the past and not known enough to get back up and
> running.  I have had to re-install my original Libranet Debian OS and
> would like to avoid that, if possible.
> Should I just reboot?  Is there anything else to do/know before I take
> the plunge?
> 
> Thanks for any help/solace you may6 be able to give.
> 

kernel 2.4.3 directly to kernel 2.6.4 is a rather large leap. You might
consider going first to kernel 2.4.24, or some such. 

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Re: Flash and Firefox (was Re: Mozilla Firefox Plugins)

[Kent West]

Patrick Wiseman wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 at 8:50pm, Kenneth Macdoald Karlsen wrote:

:On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 17:09, James Hosken wrote:
:> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
:> Hash: SHA1
:>
:> Is there a way to apt-get firefox plugins?
:> I can't find any when searching apt-cache, but I'm sure there will be.
:>
:> Can any one point me in the right directions?
:> Thanks
:> J
:>
:Apt-get for some other mozilla browser and then you copy plugins to:
:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
I just installed the Flash plugins to that directory (and verified that
they're there) but when I restart firefox, still no functioning flash.
Pages with Flash just do nothing.  Any suggestions?
Patrick

 

What are the permissions on the plugin files?

flash.com has a Linux installer which I always use. Works for me.

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/dev/cdrom and 2.6 - what should /dev look like and how do I get there the Right Way

[Peter Sebastian Masny]

Hi all,

I want to try to get my cd burner working with 2.6, but the mappings in 
/dev are weird.  My cdrom is on hdd (not hdc).

/dev contains:
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root  11 Dec 14 22:31 cdrom -> /dev/cdrom0
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root  8 Dec 14 22:31 cdrom0 -> /dev/hdc
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root  8 Nov 25 12:14 cdrom1 -> /dev/hdc
brw-rw1 root disk  22,  64 Oct  4 06:48 hdd
Should I change this directly by hand or is there an automated way? 
Also, I want the cd device to be in the "cdrom" group, but not hdd in 
"cdrom" (someday, hdd may be used by a hard drive in my system.. who 
knows...)

/dev also has a bunch of other references to cdroms, but they are not 
familiar to me.

How should I fix this the Right Way?

Thanks,
Peter
other /dev stuff follows:

brw-rw1 root cdrom 29,   0 Oct  4 06:49 aztcd0
brw-rw1 root cdrom 41,   0 Oct  4 06:49 bpcd
brw-rw1 root cdrom 24,   0 Oct  4 06:49 cdu535
brw-rw1 root cdrom 30,   0 Oct  4 06:49 cm206cd0
brw-rw1 root cdrom 16,   0 Oct  4 06:49 gscd0
brw-rw1 root cdrom 24,   0 Oct  4 06:49 lmscd
brw-rw1 root cdrom 23,   0 Oct  4 06:49 mcd
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root5 Nov 10 12:37 mcdx -> mcdx0
brw-rw1 root cdrom 20,   0 Oct  4 06:49 mcdx0
brw-rw1 root cdrom 20,   1 Oct  4 06:49 mcdx1
brw-rw1 root cdrom 20,   2 Oct  4 06:49 mcdx2
brw-rw1 root cdrom 20,   3 Oct  4 06:49 mcdx3
brw-rw1 root cdrom 20,   4 Oct  4 06:49 mcdx4
brw-rw1 root cdrom 17,   0 Oct  4 06:49 optcd
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root6 Nov 10 12:37 sbpcd -> sbpcd0
brw-rw1 root cdrom 25,   0 Oct  4 06:49 sbpcd0
brw-rw1 root cdrom 25,   1 Oct  4 06:49 sbpcd1
brw-rw1 root cdrom 25,   2 Oct  4 06:49 sbpcd2
brw-rw1 root cdrom 25,   3 Oct  4 06:49 sbpcd3
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,   0 Oct  4 06:49 scd0
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,   1 Oct  4 06:49 scd1
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,  10 Oct  4 06:49 scd10
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,  11 Oct  4 06:49 scd11
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,  12 Oct  4 06:49 scd12
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,  13 Oct  4 06:49 scd13
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,  14 Oct  4 06:49 scd14
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,  15 Oct  4 06:49 scd15
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,  16 Oct  4 06:49 scd16
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,   2 Oct  4 06:49 scd2
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,   3 Oct  4 06:49 scd3
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,   4 Oct  4 06:49 scd4
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,   5 Oct  4 06:49 scd5
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,   6 Oct  4 06:49 scd6
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,   7 Oct  4 06:49 scd7
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,   8 Oct  4 06:49 scd8
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,   9 Oct  4 06:49 scd9
brw-rw1 root cdrom 18,   0 Oct  4 06:49 sjcd
brw-rw1 root cdrom 15,   0 Oct  4 06:49 sonycd
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Nov 10 12:37 sr0 -> scd0
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Nov 10 12:37 sr1 -> scd1
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root5 Nov 10 12:37 sr10 -> scd10
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root5 Nov 10 12:37 sr11 -> scd11
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root5 Nov 10 12:37 sr12 -> scd12
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root5 Nov 10 12:37 sr13 -> scd13
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root5 Nov 10 12:37 sr14 -> scd14
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root5 Nov 10 12:37 sr15 -> scd15
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root5 Nov 10 12:37 sr16 -> scd16
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Nov 10 12:37 sr2 -> scd2
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Nov 10 12:37 sr3 -> scd3
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Nov 10 12:37 sr4 -> scd4
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Nov 10 12:37 sr5 -> scd5
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Nov 10 12:37 sr6 -> scd6
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Nov 10 12:37 sr7 -> scd7
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Nov 10 12:37 sr8 -> scd8
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Nov 10 12:37 sr9 -> scd9
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Re: What mail program does this?

[Kent West]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi Debian!

I normally use Mozilla to retrieve mail from my ISP mailserver.

Someone now (it is not SPAM, I now the sender) has sent me a 1.2Mb 
jpeg file that mozilla chokes on, meaning he keeps trying to get it 
off the server, which fails after a while, who knows why.

So I want to delete that file from the server, without trying to 
download it.

What program does this? Or may be better yet, how do I do that? And 
calling the ISP is not an option.


In addition to other comments, if you ISP offers webmail, just log in 
that way and deal with the message.

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Flash and Firefox (was Re: Mozilla Firefox Plugins)

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 at 8:50pm, Kenneth Macdoald Karlsen wrote:

:On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 17:09, James Hosken wrote:
:> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
:> Hash: SHA1
:>
:> Is there a way to apt-get firefox plugins?
:> I can't find any when searching apt-cache, but I'm sure there will be.
:>
:> Can any one point me in the right directions?
:> Thanks
:> J
:>
:Apt-get for some other mozilla browser and then you copy plugins to:
:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins

I just installed the Flash plugins to that directory (and verified that
they're there) but when I restart firefox, still no functioning flash.
Pages with Flash just do nothing.  Any suggestions?

Patrick

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Re: OK, I'm a coward...help me feel more at ease?

[Kent West]

Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

Tired of the 2.4.3 kernel that came with Libranet Debian 1.9.1, I am
trying to install the 2.6.4-1-k7 kernel image.  It's all downloaded but
synaptic tells me I need to put initrd=initrd.img into my lilo.conf.
As someone else pointed out, this should be "initrd=/initrd.img", not 
"initrd=initrd.img".

That I have done, and also run   but still avoid rebooting, one,
 



Should I just reboot?  Is there anything else to do/know before I take
the plunge?
 

As someone else pointed out, your lilo.conf should have a stanza for 
your old kernel, which means when you reboot, if your new kernel doesn't 
work, you should be able to fall back to your old kernel.

Even if not, you can boot off a boot floppy, or a Knoppix (Mepix, etc) 
CD, or the Debian installation CD, and repair any problems.

In short, if anything goes wrong (short of hardware failure or 
corruption not related to the new kernel), you can recover without 
having to reinstall Debian.

I'd say reboot.

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Re: LCD Terminal

[Kent West]

Tom Atkins wrote:

I have a new system, NO M$. Iinstalled Woody  3.0r1 from the disks I
ordered. Included X. When I was asked if I had a LCD I answered yes and
configured the H & V rates. As root when I do a start x it can not find a
correct configuration file. It thinks the terminal is a TV-2003.  It is a
Microscan A708. The Mother board is a MSI Intel 845 G/GL/GE/PE/GV Chipset
based with on board Vidio and sound. Any help would be appreciated.
Tom Atkins

 

If you have the 2.2 kernel, you may need to upgrade to 2.4 or even 2.6.

The version of X in 3.0r1 may be too old for the integrated Intel 845 
chipset; I'm not sure. You could upgrade to testing or sid, or use 
backports.org (?) or download a newer version of the XFree86 server. But 
I wouldn't go this route until you've exhausted other possibilities. (I 
personally upgrade my workstations to unstable just for these types of 
reasons; I only keep my servers on stable, because they need to be, 
well, stable.)

You might also want to run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and select 
VESA as your driver, rather than i810. This will also let you tinker 
with your monitor settings. (Or if you wanted, you could edit the 
"/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" file by hand, which is what this little tool 
does, but if you do edit it by hand, you'll break this tool's ability to 
manage the file.)

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Re: how to export messages from outlook express

[Number Six]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:20:17PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote:
> root wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm in the last steps of my migration from M$ to Debian. I have 400MB of
> >messages that I need to have available in my mail client. Using Ximian
> >Evolution right now.
> >I need suggestions on how to do it.
> 

I should expect a simple C Win32 app that just uses the MAPI.dll 
function interface (not the COM objects) would be easy to write and easy 
to host in Wine.  Has this approach been tried?

If not, perhaps I'll try it.


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Re: how to export messages from outlook express

[Erik Steffl]

root wrote:
Hi,

I'm in the last steps of my migration from M$ to Debian. I have 400MB of
messages that I need to have available in my mail client. Using Ximian
Evolution right now.
I need suggestions on how to do it.
  you can use IMAP, set up an IMAP server (uw-imap is very easy to 
setup), then connect to this IAMP server from outlook, then copy the 
messages from outlook folder to imap folder (within outlook).

  then you can either do oposite in evolution (connect to the same imap 
server and copy messages to evolution folders) or simply continue to use 
the imap server (which imo is a lot better solution, you can check your 
email remotely, you can try different email clients without worrying 
about them supporting one or another storage system etc.)

	erik

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Re: OK, I'm a coward...help me feel more at ease?

[Cybe R. Wizard]

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 10:56:43 -0800
"mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you installed your new kernel from the kernel image, then
> it should have configured lilo for you so that your old kernel
> will still boot. If for some reason, your 2.6.4 kernel bombs out,
> just hard reboot your machine, and select Linuxold at the lilo prompt.
> 
> Mike

Thanks, Mike.  I'm glad I've put off trying it out so far.  May have to
wait for more incoming advice.

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Re: Linux clients in network - experiences? [OT] biometric id

[Paul E Condon]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 02:01:30AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> [snip]
> Until a safe-for-use retina scanner happens, I really don't
> realistically see any biometric identification happening.
> 

I think it is much harder problem that you suppose. ANY scanner device
has a digital output which is encoded and sent to a central server for
comparison with a database of approved scanner outputs. In this chain
of transmission there are many interfaces that must have well defined
and open specifications.  If an attacker has physical access to the
hardware at any of these interface locations, the system is not
secure.

I suppose retina scanners might be useful as part of an access secuity
system that is totally in the hands of the security police. Such might
be the case for passangers boarding an airline, but a retinal scanner
built into a wi-fi laptop is silly technology.

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Re: Linux clients in network - experiences?

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 03:41:20AM +0100, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote:
> Yo!
> 
> So far, my experience was with administrating smallish servers and mostly 
> stand-alone clients. The future shines bright, however, and I may soon be in 
> a position to do much more than that.  But, lacking experience, I now need 
> some advice.
> 
> Environment: typical office environment, no or few 'special' applications. 
> 20-50 clients. Friendly $BOSS who hates M$, also, there's not much to migrate 
> as this is pretty much start from scratch. (So it's quite an engineer's 
> dream). Security is *very* important.
> 
> as 'apt-get install foo'.
> 
> Office: 
> I guess OpenOffice (or perhaps StarOffice) is more or less the default here. 
> Perhaps some find that koffice or the gnome counterparts can realistically be 
> considered (for people who will receive word/excel/pp documents from their 
> customers etc.)?
OpenOffice.org
gnumeric
magicpoint?? - presentations
scribus?? - PDF

> 
> 'Collaborative work'
>  - evolution is quite mature - but iirc it required a MS Outlook server for 
> the calendar application to work for groups. Is this still true?
I think that's not necessarily true.  Evolution is a no brainer for 
anyone used to Outlook, IMHO.
>  - wiki: which one? Focus on usability by people who have no idea what this 
> is.
> 
Any - but give them the chance to settle on the other stuff first :)
> Business software:
>  - financial: sqlledger? How good is it really? How advanced is the thing in 
There is a Canadian "thing" but I can't remember what its called.
>  - ticketing: phpgroupware has one. request-tracker is quite good. double 
> choco latte and bugzilla are available, too. I guess I'll just go with 
> request-tracker since I know that a bit. Might be abused as a crm with a bit 
> tweaking, I guess.
> 
> Server/network set up
>  - unix account management: I suspect NIS is not really an option in a 
> security conscious environment (just hearsay, though, I'll look at it). 
> Kerberos? With pam there should be no problem with integration. Others?
LDAP of some sort, potentially
>  - networked filesystem. NFS is certainly not the right tool here. 
> AFS/Coda/Intermezzo? Or Lustre? Others? For this and the above, it would be 
> nice if laptops could be integrated more or less nicely. Also, if the data 
> would be encrypted on the wire this would be an added bonus.
Work out what you need to share. NFS may do: Samba exporting shared
directories may do. Don't predicate everything on one enormous shared
file system - the larger it is, the harder it is to do backups :)
>  - authentication: I favor USB tokens (since ssh/pgp secret keys could be 
> stored there, too). $BOSS wants fingerprint auth. What solutions do exist (I 
> see there's an ITP out for libpam-usb. What about Linux-supported 
> fingerprinting systems? Laptops?)
>  - firewalls/routers: build my own, or buy? (I see an endless debate coming 
> here :-)
Build: iptables should do almost anything you need. If you really need
wireless, then a commercially made small router/switch/access point
might be useful.  Stripped down Debian is a good start here anyway.
> 
> Hardware:
>  - Dual head: what is available with good Linux support? How much tweaking 
> does Debian (think sarge) need (KDE? Gnome?)? (Ok, this will change every few 
> months, so I'll need to do that research again when this actually comes).
Matrox ?? [Flightgear flight simulator :) ]
>  - ok, this would be on the server side: RAID and hotswapping. I personally 
> like software raid since I can swap controllers without problems. The 
> software RAID HOWTO says it's possible with SCSI hardware, impossible to do 
> reliably with IDE. This still true? (SATA?)
SATA supported well as of 2.4.25.  Avoid cheap IDE raid cards. Expensive
IDE raid cards are fine. Linux software raid now possible on any disk
AFAIK. Hotswapping may always be more problematic
> 
> Misc:
>  - What experience do you have with setting the default locale to something 
> like de_CH.UTF-8? Personally, I have quite a good impressions, but my primary 
> tools are kmail, xterm, vi and konqueror - I rarely use any office 
> applications. There will mostly be ???, perhaps a few slavic characters. No 
> right-to-left, cyrillic, chinese or korean except in spam mail.
>  - what is the color of my briefs?
> 
> Ok, enough for a few weeks, I guess :-)
> Thanks already for those who take the time. 
> 
> Greetings
> -- vbi
> 
> -- 
> Will the information superhighway have any rest stops?

Not an expert - just my first thoughts.

Andy


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Re: What mail program does this?

[Michael D. Crawford]

You can telnet to port 110 of your POP server and delete it by typing in pop 
commands.

I used to telnet to a pop server to read my mail (in the happy days before spam) 
because I worked at a place whose firewall wouldn't allow external pop access. 
What I did was telnet to a regular login outside the firewall, then telnet to my 
popserver.

$ telnet server.domain.com 110

Try giving the "HELP" command to find out what commands you can do.

Mike
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Woody diskette install

[Drogo Bumbleroot]

I'm trying to setup a P166 with woody via floppy since it won't boot from
CD.

I've booted it with a rescue.img diskette.  It will eventually ask for
another diskette while loading linux.bin

I thought the 2nd disk it was looking for was the root.img diskette.

Neither a root.img diskette nor a linux.bin diskette gets this machine to
continue to boot.

Is there a known problem with any of the disk images?

(Yes, I am using rawrite2 to create the diskette out of the images.)

Thanks.

=> Ed <=

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Re: LCD Terminal

[Jeff Elkins]

On Saturday 20 March 2004 01:44 pm, Jeff Elkins wrote:
>On Saturday 20 March 2004 09:53 am, Tom Atkins wrote:
>> I have a new system, NO M$. Iinstalled Woody  3.0r1 from the disks I
>> ordered. Included X. When I was asked if I had a LCD I answered yes and
>> configured the H & V rates. As root when I do a start x it can not find a
>> correct configuration file. It thinks the terminal is a TV-2003.  It is a
>> Microscan A708. The Mother board is a MSI Intel 845 G/GL/GE/PE/GV Chipset
>> based with on board Vidio and sound. Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>>Tom Atkins
>
>This is one of the things a Knoppix or Mepis live CD is great for. Pop it
> in, then copy the resulting XFConfig-4 file somewhere safe.
>
>Jeff

On Saturday 20 March 2004 02:21 pm, you wrote:
>I am not familiar with these. What do they do and where are they available?

http://www.mepis.org/
http://www.knoppix.org/

They are bootable CDs containing a working debian-based distribution. They are 
handy for system repair, hardware diagnostics, etc. You can also install them 
to your hard drive in lieu of a 'normal' debian install, but be aware that 
the resulting installation isn't 'pure,' it will be somewhat different from a 
straight debian install. For instance, under Mepis, su:root is allowed to run 
X programs and the default runlevel is 5 rather than 2. 

They come pre-loaded with KDE, Open Office, etc.

Jeff


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Re: xterm double-click to select words like "cups-bsd", "/var/log"

[Gregory Seidman]

On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 11:51:13PM -0500, Jameson C. Burt wrote:
} I frequently double-click with the left mouse button from a previous
} xterm displayed result like
}ii  cupsys
}ii  cupsys-bsd
} Here, double-clicking "cupsys" highlights the whole word,
} but double-clicking "cupsys-bsd" highlights only "cupsys",
} since double-clicking sees a word boundary at characters like
}-
}/
}space
} As a result, I must left-click and drag my mouse over the word 
}cupsys-bsd
} which is several times slower (perhaps 2 seconds).
} HOW CAN I GET DOUBLE-CLICKED WORDS TO HIGHLIGHT EVERYTHING BETWEEN
} SPACES; eg, all of "cupsys-bsd" or all of "/var/log/messages"?
[...]

Some of us prefer this behavior, but it is configurable. You need to get
the following X resource to be noticed by xterm:

XTerm*charClass: 0-32:1,33-126:2,127-160:3,161-255:2

There are many ways of going about it, but the simplest is to put it in
you ~/.Xdefaults (or maybe it's ~/.Xresources; I forget which is
standard these days) and run xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults somewhere in your
.xinitrc (or whatever else you use for starting X). Another option is to
put it on xterm's commandline:

xterm -xrm "XTerm*charClass: 0-32:1,33-126:2,127-160:3,161-255:2"

If you want to understand what's going on, read the CHARACTER CLASSES
section of the xterm man page.

} Jameson C. Burt, NJ9L   Fairfax, Virginia, USA
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Re: A couple of missing modules on bootup

[David Baron]

Blacklisted them ( /etc/hotplug/blacklist) and never heard about them 
again :-) Apparently devices, not modules.

On Friday 19 March 2004 13:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> pciehp and shpchp?
> related to hotplug which I am not starting at present.


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Re: OK, I'm a coward...help me feel more at ease?

[mike]

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 10:57:53 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote
> Tired of the 2.4.3 kernel that came with Libranet Debian 1.9.1, I am
> trying to install the 2.6.4-1-k7 kernel image.  It's all downloaded but
> synaptic tells me I need to put initrd=initrd.img into my lilo.conf. 
> That I have done, and also run   but still avoid rebooting,
>  one, because I have my best uptime going right now([EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> uptime 10:51:44 up 64 days, 10:31, 6 users, load average: 0.15, 0.28,
> 0.22), and, two, because I'm an inherent coward and don't know enough
> about this to feel secure. Is there anything else I need to do before
> rebooting so I will have a workable system afterward? I've busted things
> several times in the past and not known enough to get back up and
> running.  I have had to re-install my original Libranet Debian OS and
> would like to avoid that, if possible.
> Should I just reboot?  Is there anything else to do/know before I 
> take the plunge?

If you installed your new kernel from the kernel image, then
it should have configured lilo for you so that your old kernel
will still boot. If for some reason, your 2.6.4 kernel bombs out,
just hard reboot your machine, and select Linuxold at the lilo prompt.

Mike


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Re: Console is screwy (shows what looks like boot log)

[Brad Sims]

 I have added the following line Xfree86.config
Option         "UseFBDev"              "true"
and at boot prompt added vga=normal and it seems to have worked
at least for now  

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Re: What mail program does this?

[Julius Plenz]

* Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-20 19:48]:
> So I want to delete that file from the server, without trying to 
> download it.
> 
> What program does this? Or may be better yet, how do I do that? And 
> calling the ISP is not an option.

I havent tested it but i think this should work (if fetchmail is set
up correctly):

fetchmail -a -l 1 -F

This will flush (=delete) all messages with a size _over_ 1 Byte. :)
Do you have Access to a WebMailer? I had a similar problem recently
and solved it by removing the message throu the webinterface...

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What mail program does this?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hi Debian!

I normally use Mozilla to retrieve mail from my ISP mailserver.

Someone now (it is not SPAM, I now the sender) has sent me a 1.2Mb jpeg 
file that mozilla chokes on, meaning he keeps trying to get it off the 
server, which fails after a while, who knows why.

So I want to delete that file from the server, without trying to 
download it.

What program does this? Or may be better yet, how do I do that? And 
calling the ISP is not an option.

Thanks!

Hugo.

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Re: LCD Terminal

[Jeff Elkins]

On Saturday 20 March 2004 09:53 am, Tom Atkins wrote:
> I have a new system, NO M$. Iinstalled Woody  3.0r1 from the disks I
> ordered. Included X. When I was asked if I had a LCD I answered yes and
> configured the H & V rates. As root when I do a start x it can not find a
> correct configuration file. It thinks the terminal is a TV-2003.  It is a
> Microscan A708. The Mother board is a MSI Intel 845 G/GL/GE/PE/GV Chipset
> based with on board Vidio and sound. Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Tom Atkins

This is one of the things a Knoppix or Mepis live CD is great for. Pop it in, 
then copy the resulting XFConfig-4 file somewhere safe. 

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Re: OK, I'm a coward...help me feel more at ease?

[Cybe R. Wizard]

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:36:42 -0500
Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Make sure that you have installed module-init-tools and a more recent
> e2fsprogs (assuming you have ext2 or ext3 partitions).

Yep, have both. (maybe because I am tracking unstable?)
Thanks, and also to Nicos, as I had no idea.
I believe I will reboot Very Soon Now.

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Re: KDE Mouse Failure

[Clyde Wilson]

Yes, when I tried to start it wouldn't come up.  Plenty of messages but 
no error messages.
I commented out the extra mice one at a time with the same results.

It bothers me that XF86Config works fine with gnome but not with kde...

Pigeon wrote:

On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 12:46:28AM -0800, Clyde Wilson wrote:
 

I have just installed Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 rev 1 "woody".  I can bring up gnome just fine but when I try to bring up kde I get the following message:

(**) Generic Mouse: Protocol: "ImPS/2"
(**) Generic Mouse: always reports core events
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
  No such device.
(EE) Generic Mouse: cannot open input device
(EE) PreInit failed for input device "Generic Mouse"
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Configured Mouse" (type: MOUSE)
Fatal server error:
Caught signal 4.  Server aborting
I do have /dev/input/mice and I am using a PS/2 mouse.  Any help would be appreciated!
   

/dev/input/mice is for USB mice. For a PS/2 mouse you want /dev/psaux.

Also, ImPS/2 is for scroll wheel mice; if you don't have a scroll
wheel, just plain PS/2 is probably what you want.
 





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FOLLOW-UP Re: OpenOffice blank page after first page

[Emma Jane Hogbin]

On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 03:54:01PM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * Emma Jane Hogbin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])[20040308 13:35]:
> > I've googled before for this problem and I can't find the solution. When
> > I'm writing proposals for clients I like to use two page styles:
> > First Page
> > Default (the rest of the document)
> > But when I print the document an extra page is inserted between First Page
> > and Default. The page numbering is correct. 
> >
> > As far as I can tell this is because Open Office wants all pages to be 
> > either Left or Right. First Page is, by default, a "Left Page" and
> > Default, by default, starts with another "Left Page" -- which leaves a
> > blank "Right Page" between the two. If I modify the First Page style to 
> > be "Right Only" then my document *starts* with a blank page and flows 
> > correctly. But I still have a blank page.
> 
> A workaround to save a few sheets until you find a solution:
> Set the first page to "Right", and when you print, choose to
> print only pages "2-", meaning all pages except 1.

This doesn't work for the "export to PDF" option as the PDF button/options
doesn't go through the print dialog.

I found out that this is actually a very well known bug. (Although there
is some debate on whether it's a feature or a bug.)
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3910

As far as I can see the issue will not be resolved until at least OOo 2.0.
For anyone using digital documents and who need a title page followed
immediately by a content page, I would encourage you to drop a note on the
URL above so that the developers know how much of a show stopper their
"feature" is.

thanks,
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Re: OK, I'm a coward...help me feel more at ease?

[Roberto Sanchez]

Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
Tired of the 2.4.3 kernel that came with Libranet Debian 1.9.1, I am
I would definitely say that an upgrade is long overdue.

trying to install the 2.6.4-1-k7 kernel image.  It's all downloaded but
synaptic tells me I need to put initrd=initrd.img into my lilo.conf. 
That should probably be initrd=/initrd.img (i.e., the symlink that
points to your actual initial ramdisk).
That I have done, and also run   but still avoid rebooting, one,
because I have my best uptime going right now([EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
uptime 10:51:44 up 64 days, 10:31, 6 users, load average: 0.15, 0.28,
0.22), and, two, because I'm an inherent coward and don't know enough
Congrats on the uptime.

about this to feel secure. Is there anything else I need to do before
rebooting so I will have a workable system afterward? I've busted things
several times in the past and not known enough to get back up and
running.  I have had to re-install my original Libranet Debian OS and
would like to avoid that, if possible.
Make sure that you have installed module-init-tools and a more recent
e2fsprogs (assuming you have ext2 or ext3 partitions).
Should I just reboot?  Is there anything else to do/know before I take
the plunge?
If you feel at all unsure, grab a .deb of the latest 2.4 kernel (2.4.25)
and use that.  Going from one 2.4 kernel to a newer 2.4 kernel should
pose the least trouble.  Of course, you could roll your own kernel
using kernel-package and the directions available here:
http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html

Thanks for any help/solace you may6 be able to give.

Cybe R. Wizard
HTH,

-Roberto


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Re: OK, I'm a coward...help me feel more at ease?

[Nicos Gollan]

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 10:57:53 -0600
"Cybe R. Wizard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tired of the 2.4.3 kernel that came with Libranet Debian 1.9.1, I am
> trying to install the 2.6.4-1-k7 kernel image.  It's all downloaded
> but synaptic tells me I need to put initrd=initrd.img into my
> lilo.conf. [...]
> Is there anything else I need to do before rebooting so I will have a
> workable system afterward?

You need at least the module-init-tools (a replacement for modutils).
For a complete set of required programs, see the kernel documentation,
especially the "Changes" file. Also, a few modules might have changes
names, so look for messages about that.

Unless you're running some exotic hardware that is not enabled in the
default kernel images (like some RAID controllers), you should at least
be able to get to a console and sort the remaining issues out from
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OK, I'm a coward...help me feel more at ease?

[Cybe R. Wizard]

Tired of the 2.4.3 kernel that came with Libranet Debian 1.9.1, I am
trying to install the 2.6.4-1-k7 kernel image.  It's all downloaded but
synaptic tells me I need to put initrd=initrd.img into my lilo.conf. 
That I have done, and also run   but still avoid rebooting, one,
because I have my best uptime going right now([EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
uptime 10:51:44 up 64 days, 10:31, 6 users, load average: 0.15, 0.28,
0.22), and, two, because I'm an inherent coward and don't know enough
about this to feel secure. Is there anything else I need to do before
rebooting so I will have a workable system afterward? I've busted things
several times in the past and not known enough to get back up and
running.  I have had to re-install my original Libranet Debian OS and
would like to avoid that, if possible.
Should I just reboot?  Is there anything else to do/know before I take
the plunge?

Thanks for any help/solace you may6 be able to give.

Cybe R. Wizard
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Re: CUPS

[Pigeon]

On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:29:06PM -0600, Alan Shutko wrote:
> Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 07:55:00AM +, Adam Funk wrote:
> 
> >> In my experience, just installing cupsys-bsd didn't make lpr work
> >> (output just disappeared).  
> >
> > Me too.
> 
> Did you folks have some other lpr command installed as well?  (I don't
> see how, I believe they conflict.)  If lp works, I can't think of any
> reason the cups lpr wouldn't work.  I've never had to do anything
> additional to get cupsys-bsd's lpr to work... it talks to CUPS
> directly, just like lp.
> 
> Unless you mean having other machines use the lpr protocol to talk to
> a CUPS server

No, not that; and I think you are right about conflicts. This is going
back a long time, but my suspicion would be that I originally had some
other form of lpr installed - I think whatever is the default you get
on installation - which didn't work, and I then replaced it with the
CUPS tools, which did work, but some of the original not-working lpr
config files were still lying around.

When I want to print, lp is the command that I find natural to use,
from days of using UNIX; and since it works for me, I've never really
bothered to find out why lpr doesn't.

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Re: KDE Mouse Failure

[Pigeon]

On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 06:38:38AM -0800, Clyde Wilson wrote:
> Pigeon wrote:
> >On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 12:46:28AM -0800, Clyde Wilson wrote:
> >>I have just installed Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 rev 1 "woody".  I can bring up 
> >>gnome just fine but when I try to bring up kde I get the following 
> >>message:
> >>
> >>(**) Generic Mouse: Protocol: "ImPS/2"
> >>(**) Generic Mouse: always reports core events
> >>(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
> >>  No such device.
> >>(EE) Generic Mouse: cannot open input device
> >>(EE) PreInit failed for input device "Generic Mouse"
> >>(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Configured Mouse" (type: MOUSE)
> >>
> >>Fatal server error:
> >>Caught signal 4.  Server aborting
> >>
> >>I do have /dev/input/mice and I am using a PS/2 mouse.  Any help would be 
> >>appreciated!
> >
> >/dev/input/mice is for USB mice. For a PS/2 mouse you want /dev/psaux.
> >
> >Also, ImPS/2 is for scroll wheel mice; if you don't have a scroll
> >wheel, just plain PS/2 is probably what you want.
>
> I made the changes and kdm came down with no error messages...

Sorry, "came down" is not an expression I recognise... do you mean it
"came up" with no error messages, ie. it's now working OK, or it "went
down" with no error messages, ie. it failed and didn't tell you why?

If the latter... in what way exactly does it cease to function?

A possibility: you seem to have two mice configured... comment out one
of them.

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Re: Debian queries

[Pigeon]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 01:21:13AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks for the replies.  More insight is very welcome, so keep them
> coming.
> 
> So far what I think I am going to do is wait for SuSE 9.1 and the new
> release of Debian (which I presume will both use the 2.6 Kernel) and
> re-compare, based on user opinions.  But the info now is welcome.

I don't speak from any kind of "official" position but I don't think
2.6 is currently considered stable enough to be made the default for a
Debian "stable" release. However, that doesn't mean you can't install
Debian and then install a 2.6 kernel. It's perfectly possible to
install 2.6 even on the current stable, albeit with a few backports of
things like module-init-tools and e2fsprogs.

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Configuring network interfaces

[Richard Barraclough]

Dear all,

I'm trying to change the configuration of my network interfaces but I'm
having trouble with dhclient overriding my settings and with disabling
masquerading and ipchains.

Original config:
eth0 static ip address
eth1 address obtained via dhcp
Network on eth0 is masqueraded to eth1

What I want:
Both static IPs with no masq/firewall

Problems:
I set /etc/networks/interfaces but dhcp seems to override it
Is it possible to disable dhcp without un-installing it?
On reboot the firewall (ipchains) is always reset to the masquerading
config. How do I get it to stay how I put it?

Thanks,
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Re: Microsoft Truetype fonts not working now?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 20 Mar 2004, Andreas Janssen wrote:
> Hello
> 
> Anthony Campbell (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> 
> > I just tried to install Microsoft TrueType fonts on my laptop via the
> > msttcorefonts package. All seemed to go off correctly and the fonts
> > appeared where expected in
> > /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/ I also modified
> > /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 as instructed to reflect the above path. I also
> > tried "xset fp rehash".
> >
> > However, the fonts do not show up with xfontsel and when starting X I
> > get an error message about not being able to init the above path.
> 
> Maybe there is no fonts.scale and/or fonts.dir file in that directory.
> Install the ttmkfdir package, run the command in your true type fonts
> directory, and use fonts.dir and fonts.scale for the output.

[snip]

No, these files are there. And ttmfdir complains that  there is no file
called /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/microsoft-win3.1.enc.
Oddly enough, I dont't have such a file on my desktop either, yet the
fonts are working there. 

Perhaps I should file a bug report.

AC

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Will there be packages for Xorg ?

[jjluza]

Hello,

I read here :
http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/XOrgRepository
that xorg is closed to be a free Xfree 4.4.
Is there a plan about someone would intend to package/maintain it for debian ?
I heard that it has some improvements compare to xfree 4.4 (features, 
speed ...), so I would like to test it.

Regards,
JJ Luza


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Re: Graphical resolution changer for Xfree86?

[Toshiro]

On Saturday 20 March 2004 12:34, Christophe Combelles wrote:
> Mike Fedyk wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was reading some reviews of other distributions, and they had a
> > graphical "control panel" that allowed you to change your resolution
> > without restarting X11.
> >
> For gnome you have capplets, which features the gnome-display-properties
> that does exactly what you want and very easily.
> (it is an GUI for randr)
>
> apt-get install capplets capplets-data
> then go to the desktop properties menu -> screen resolution

You also have it in KDE 3.2, its name is 'krandrtray' and is included in the 
package 'kcontrol'

Toshiro

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cdrdao problem

[Kenneth Macdoald Karlsen]

Im running kernel 2.6.4 and Sarge.
Cdrdao version cdrdao/testing uptodate 1:1.1.7-5
I can rip from a cd and make cue/bin file but when i try to burn i get
this message:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:cdrdao$> cdrdao write --device /dev/hdc --driver generic-mmc
gubben
Cdrdao version 1.1.7 - (C) Andreas Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  SCSI interface library - (C) Joerg Schilling
  Paranoia DAE library - (C) Monty

Check http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/drives.html#dt for current driver
tables.

Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'

/dev/hdc: SONY CD-RW  CRX140E   Rev: 1.0n
Using driver: Generic SCSI-3/MMC - Version 2.0 (options 0x)

Starting write at speed 8...
Pausing 10 seconds - hit CTRL-C to abort.
Process can be aborted with QUIT signal (usually CTRL-\).
WARNING: No super user permission to setup real time scheduling.
Executing power calibration...
Power calibration successful.
ERROR: Drive does not accept any cue sheet variant - please report.
ERROR: Writing failed.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:cdrdao$> cdrdao write --device /dev/hdc --driver generic-mmc
gubben



What am I doing wrong?
Kenneth


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Re: Sharing sound between users

[Kenneth Macdoald Karlsen]

On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 07:41, Paul Johnson wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >
> >> glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> > If someone logs into gnome -they own the esd and no one else can get in
> >> > and use sound, even after they log out, unless someone manually kills
> >> > esd deamon. If there are two X sessions running - only one can access
> >> > sound - Sound seems easier in kernel 2.6 so I'm hoping I can finally
> >> > solve this problem - any help... please?
> >>
> >> Get a sound card that allows more than one stream to play at the same
> >> time.  Yours does not.  I don't know what cards do other than mine
> >> does.  It's a Creative SoundBlaster Live! 128.
> > I have alwasys wanted this feature as well. Is it possible to achive this
> > with a better sound card?
> 
> Yes.  Like I said, I use a Creative SoundBlaster Live! 128 and I can
> do it.  Any quality sound card will support it.  I'm not trying to be
> elitist here, but the ability to get a SBL! 128 for about $20 these
> days really should be forcing AC97 and other similarly craptastic
> chipsets to justify their existence.
> 
> > In windows my soundcard can play several
> > simultanius streams but not in linux with oss/alsa.
> 
> Windows does something like what ARTS or ESD does for KDE and Gnome
> environments.
> 
> > As I understad this I would with a better soundcard? Is this
> > correct?
> 
> Yes.  By the way, what's the frequency?

REM :)

http://leoslyrics.com/listlyrics.php?hid=ANm3L6mVSMg%3D
Kenneth


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Re: Graphical resolution changer for Xfree86?

[Christophe Combelles]

Mike Fedyk wrote:
Hi,

I was reading some reviews of other distributions, and they had a 
graphical "control panel" that allowed you to change your resolution 
without restarting X11.

Does Debian have anything like that?

Thanks,

Mike


For gnome you have capplets, which features the gnome-display-properties that 
does exactly what you want and very easily.
(it is an GUI for randr)

apt-get install capplets capplets-data
then go to the desktop properties menu -> screen resolution
You also have graphical tools to configure the network, services, users & groups 
 and lilo.

regards
Christophe Combelles
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Re: x window?$B$,N)>e$j$^$;$s!#

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Florian Ernst wrote:
Hello 'wadaminoru'!

His 'x window' doesn't boot up and he asks for guidance. He already
tried 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' but this didn't help.
He feels sorry for asking, but does anyone have a hint for him. He
uses a NVidia 'G-fource3' graphics card.
wadaminoru, please note this list's language is english.
Sorry, I personally don't know much about graphics cards...
Cheers,
Flo
PS: I CC you as I don't know whether you are subscribed or not.
I have a NVidia MX-440 and I use NVidia's driver 4496.
I also have Backstreet Ruby (multiple users on one box with multiple X 
servers) but I don't think that matters for this to work.

I download the closed-source driver from 
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-4496.html
and do as they say.

That creates a module in ../kernel/drivers/video. I put that module 
(nvidia) in /etc/modules (I run kernel 2.4.23, patched for Backstreet 
Ruby) So then he loads nvidia when booting.

I run woody but compiled my own X4.3.0 because there are no binaries for 
Backstreet Ruby and Woody, but that should not matter.

I attach XF86Config-4 as a bzipped file, that identifies the driver as 
"nvidia" in the device section.

Should run as advertized.

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Re: x window?$B$,N)>e$j$^$;$s!#

[Kenward Vaughan]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 08:55:07AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote:
> Florian Ernst wrote:
> >Hello 'wadaminoru'!
> >
> >His 'x window' doesn't boot up and he asks for guidance. He already
> >tried 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' but this didn't help.
> >He feels sorry for asking, but does anyone have a hint for him. He
> >uses a NVidia 'G-fource3' graphics card.
> >
> >wadaminoru, please note this list's language is english.
> >Sorry, I personally don't know much about graphics cards...
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Flo
> >
> >
> >PS: I CC you as I don't know whether you are subscribed or not.
> 
> I have an NVidia GForce video card also.
> But that card is not currently running on a Debian box, SuSE.
> 
> However, the following should apply:
> NVidia drivers are not normally available under Linux (with 3d support). 
>  I believe there is a dummy driver called 'nv' that you can choose from 
> during the set up.
> In order to get NVidia 3D support you need to download the kernel 
> headers and get a script from NVidia that will compile and install the 
> driver for you.  Then select the driver 'nvidia' for your X11 configuration.

All that is needed is already packaged for Sid. Don't know about
testing/stable.  If he's into rolling his own kernels, and uses
kernel-package, it's a dream to set up.  Otherwise the kernel headers
need to be installed to build the driver.

Other threads have come up recently on this, too.  I didn't track them,
though.  Sorry.  


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Specifying a release for dselect

[Michael Stovenour]

Is there a way to specify a default release (e.g. woody or
stable) for dselect?

 

I read the instructions for setting
the default release for apt.  (i.e. add APT::Default-Release
"stable"; to /etc/apt/apt.conf).  However when I add an apt line
for unstable to my sources.list file and run dselect, dselect seems to ignore
the default release and want to upgrade every package to the unstable
release.  This happens before I select any packages.  apt-get is
honoring the default release, but dselect seems to ignore it.

 

Must I abandon dselect (or constantly
unselect hundreds of packages), if I want to run a mixed system?

 

 

Michael Stovenour

LCD Terminal

[Tom Atkins]

 I have a new system, NO M$. Iinstalled Woody  3.0r1 from the disks I
 ordered. Included X. When I was asked if I had a LCD I answered yes and
 configured the H & V rates. As root when I do a start x it can not find a
 correct configuration file. It thinks the terminal is a TV-2003.  It is a
 Microscan A708. The Mother board is a MSI Intel 845 G/GL/GE/PE/GV Chipset
 based with on board Vidio and sound. Any help would be appreciated.

Tom Atkins


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Thanks Re: OT: help with mawk

[ghcbc]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 02:14:25AM +, Clive Standbridge wrote:
> On Thu 18 Mar 2004 16:53:58 +(-0800), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 06:19:43PM +0100, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:
> > > Hi ghcbc,
> > > 
> > > VARIABLENAME=$(mawk 'whatever') .
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Thanks.  I can get this to work on the command line, but not in a bash
> > script.
> 
> I think the original question was how to strip / characters from a 
> variable in a shell script. Assuming it's a bash script you can do it 
> like this:
> 
>   that=some/reasonable/path/name
>   this=${that//\//}
> 
[snip]

> 
> 1. You didn't give mawk any input.
> 
> 2. The third argument to gsub is the name of an awk variable to modify.
>In this case it's $1 which is the first field of the input line (which
>is empty because there's no input).

In the code, I called the function with the argument
"some/reasonable/file/name".  I just didn't include the function call in the
code sample I provided.  I have to admit, it wasn't very clearly stated.

Both your solutions (above and below) worked for me.  I'm going to go with
the simple substitution above.  I only attempted the mawk thing because I
didn't know that the /thisbecomes/that/ syntax was available in bash.  But I
am also very glad to know why $1 was not getting through to mawk in the
function, and thus why Joachim's suggestion worked for me on the command
line but not in the script.

Thanks to both Clive and Joachim.

Ta,

Gerald

> 
> 3. I suspect you meant $1 to be the first argument to function _foobar,
>but it's not because the shell doesn't expand $ inside '', you need
>to use "" instead.
> 
> Try this:
>   symbolicname=$(echo "$1" | mawk 'gsub("/","") { print }')
> 
> 

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Re: mounting extended or logical partions

[Christopher J. Noyes]

the Windows is Windows ME. They were partitioned with fdisk from Windows,
hda was partitioned with fdisk from me, hdb with win95. fdisk says they are
fat32. Since the original portioning was done, I ran a somewhat out of date
copy of Partition magic on the first disk to partion the linux partions root
and swap, but didn't alter the other partions.
Christopher J. Noyes
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Brazil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 05:09 AM
Subject: Re: mounting extended or logical partions


> Was sent to my own addres, not list. Reply at end.
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:35:56PM -0500, Christopher J. Noyes wrote:
> > here they are.
> > Christopher J. Noyes
> 
> >
> > Disk /dev/hdb1: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 130 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
> >
> >  Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
> > /dev/hdb1p1   ?257914248478 2071690107   f6  Unknown
> > Partition 1 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
> >  phys=(1014, 246, 54) logical=(257913, 124, 58)
> > Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
> >  phys=(1014, 246, 54) logical=(248477, 160, 47)
> > Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
> >  phys=(1014, 246, 54) should be (1014, 254, 63)
> > /dev/hdb1p2   ?257914248478 2071690107   f6  Unknown
> > Partition 2 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
> >  phys=(1014, 246, 54) logical=(257913, 124, 58)
> > Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
> >  phys=(1014, 246, 54) logical=(248477, 160, 47)
> > Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
> >  phys=(1014, 246, 54) should be (1014, 254, 63)
> > /dev/hdb1p3   ?257914248478 2071690107   f6  Unknown
> > Partition 3 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
> >  phys=(1014, 246, 54) logical=(257913, 124, 58)
> > Partition 3 has different physical/logical endings:
> >  phys=(1014, 246, 54) logical=(248477, 160, 47)
> > Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary:
> >  phys=(1014, 246, 54) should be (1014, 254, 63)
> > /dev/hdb1p4   ?257914248478 2071690107   f6  Unknown
> > Partition 4 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
> >  phys=(1014, 246, 54) logical=(257913, 124, 58)
> > Partition 4 has different physical/logical endings:
> >  phys=(1014, 246, 54) logical=(248477, 160, 47)
> > Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary:
> >  phys=(1014, 246, 54) should be (1014, 254, 63)
>
> >
> > Disk /dev/hda1: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1147 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
> >
> >  Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
> > /dev/hda1p1   ?120513235786 925929529+  68  Unknown
> > Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
> >  phys=(288, 101, 46) should be (288, 254, 63)
> > /dev/hda1p2   ? 82801116350 269488144   79  Unknown
> > Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
> >  phys=(0, 13, 10) should be (0, 254, 63)
> > /dev/hda1p3   ? 33551120595 699181456   53  OnTrack DM6 Aux3
> > Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary:
> >  phys=(324, 77, 19) should be (324, 254, 63)
> > /dev/hda1p4   ? 86812 86813 10668+  49  Unknown
> > Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary:
> >  phys=(335, 78, 2) should be (335, 254, 63)
> >
> > Partition table entries are not in disk order
>
> What was this partitioned with? I'm not worried about the boundry
> warnings but the Ids/System being unknown is a concern. If you are running
XP I
> believe it uses a different parition table format that you might have to
> compile into the kernel (its under filesystems). I have installed Woody
> on an XP system with no problems mounting NTFS(xp drive) or vfat(second
> drive, cfdisk).
>
> In fact looking at the partition table again all the paritions on hdb
> overlap, as does some on hda. Please tell me you didn't try the 'double
> your hardisk space' from slashdot recently. I don't have a system with
> extended partitions to hand check what it should look like.
>
> For FAT the Ids should probably be 0b or 0c. Linux is 83 and Linux swap is
82
> 'echo l | fdisk /dev/hda' for more ids.
>
> I would guess that the fat kernel driver checks the partition type before
> mounting and this is why it won't mount.
>
> Your partition table would appear to be seriously messed up. Did you
> change it without rebooting? Also is it all viewable with Windows? If
> you have a Knoppix disk(or any other bootable Linux - this includes
> Debian install disks - Alt-F2) could you try mounting it with that?
>
> Brian
>
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