Re: cannot log on to msn using pidgin on lenny amd64

[Star Liu]

but another strange thing is my gaim on etch works fine with msn everyday,
while the pidgin in lenny doesn't work with msn. I'd like to report this bug
to lenny. :)

I'd like to cut off proprietary IM protocols, but my friends still use msn
for work, they work in microsoft. :)

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 11:15 +0800, Star Liu wrote:
> > it's quite strange, the first time i used pidgin to log on to msn was
> > quite smooth, but the second time when i logged on, i waited for about
> > 2 minutes, then the 3nd time i logged on, about 5 minutes,., now,
> > it totally refuses to log on! the bottom of pidgin stops at a waiting
> > status, and the buddy list is empty.
> > Is it a known bug? How could I work it around?
>
> Yes, this is a known bug.  It also affects support of ICQ, AIM, Yahoo,
> Gadu-Gadu, MySpaceIM, QQ, and all other centrally-organized,
> proprietary, private IM systems.  Most of them prohibit you from using
> any client other than their own in the first place, and enforce this by
> changing the protocol on a regular basis.
>
> The workaround?  Don't use proprietary IM protocols:  Cut them off
> instead.  Use XMPP instead.
>
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Re: project: wired/wireless router

[H.S.]

Celejar wrote:


I'm considering these options, too.  IIUC, another argument in favor of
the former option is the power draw; isn't it much lower for a SOHO
router than for a full blown computer running as a router?


Yes, you are correct. Plus the form factor, no upgrades, no keyboard, 
etc. If one wants is just a simple router with plug-and-go 
functionality, a consumer SOHO router is the way to do.


->HS


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Re: project: wired/wireless router

[Celejar]

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:50:51 -0400
"H.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

...

> I would say the consumer router choice (e.g. WRT-54G(L)) is the easiest 
> to implement. The other choice, making a computer as a router, is quite 
> involved but interesting (could be made very streamlined using a 
> firewall machine oriented Linux Distro) and serves as an excellent 
> learning project (networking and iptables). Moreover, with the latter 
> choice, one has very fine grained control over the routing and filtering 
> of network packets.

I'm considering these options, too.  IIUC, another argument in favor of
the former option is the power draw; isn't it much lower for a SOHO
router than for a full blown computer running as a router?

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Re: [OT] the limits of googling

[Mark Allums]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

Google searching is (still?) primitive.

I would like to know the answer to a simple question:

What are the most recent laptops that run Linux *and* have a working 
analog (RJ-11) modem installed?


Listed by highest price first.

Hugo

PS All the searching I have done lead me to believe that they don't 
exist. But how do you prove that with Google?



I know you would rather not hear this, but I think, ultimately, a
compact USB modem will end up being your best bet.

Another option might be a wireless aircard, running in NDIS mode, if you
can find one with a Linux driver.  You might get around that with a
router, there are a few that can use an aircard or USB wireless
broadband card or 3G phone with a USB port.  I use the Kyocera KR2, it
works pretty well, as long as you don't go over the 5GB cap, and get
throttled. (If you let that happen, it's a bit of a nightmare to connect.)


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Re: project: wired/wireless router

[H.S.]

Nick Lidakis wrote:

cables and antennas, would have been a big expense.  It was much cheaper 
to pick up a used Linksys WRT54G ($20 from Craigslist) and use it as a 


Yup, going this way is going to be cheaper, no doubt. However, if the OP 
goes the way he is thinking about (adding a multiport NIC and a wireless 
bridge or an additional wireless card), that will be an excellent 
learning experience. I have an old machine running as a router this way. 
It has two NICs and a wireless PCI card working as an access point 
(D-Link, can look up the model if anyone wants, but it is supported by 
madwifi driver). One of the NICs is connected to my ADSL modem, the 
other to a LAN switch. My wired LAN is 192.168.0.x, my wireless LAN is 
192.168.5.0 and I have iptables running with my custom rules controlling 
both the network with access the internet via the ppp0 connection made 
through the ADSL modem.


Now, I also have the WRT-54GL which has been flashed with the open 
source firmware.


I would say the consumer router choice (e.g. WRT-54G(L)) is the easiest 
to implement. The other choice, making a computer as a router, is quite 
involved but interesting (could be made very streamlined using a 
firewall machine oriented Linux Distro) and serves as an excellent 
learning project (networking and iptables). Moreover, with the latter 
choice, one has very fine grained control over the routing and filtering 
of network packets.


My 2 cents,
either way, Good luck to the OP!


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Re: project: wired/wireless router

[Ron Johnson]

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On 06/28/08 22:05, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:04:52PM +0200, oneman wrote:
>> On 28-jun-2008, at 18:30, Gregory Seidman wrote:
>>
>>> I have a mini case with a VIA motherboard and CPU. It has an on-board
>>> ethernet port. I'd like to use it as a Linux firewall/NAT router to
>>> replace the (wired only) LinkSys I have now. It only has one PCI slot,
>>> but I want to be able to provide both wired and wireless LAN access. I'm
>>> looking for both hardware suggestions (i.e. a PCI card with both wired
>>> and  wireless ethernet that is supported by the kernel in stable) and
>>> configuration help.

Adding all this extra equipment is going to cost you *much* more
than buying a Linksys WRT56GL and reflashing it with the Tomato or
DD-WRT firmware.

>> Maybe not the answer that you were looking for. But seeing what your  
>> requirements are, I'd simply add a two or four port ethernet card to the 
>> case and plug a wireless bridge into one of the ports. This would be a 
>> hassle free setup and give you all the options you need without having to 
>> hunt down that probably rare or non existent card with both wireless and 
>> wired. This would also give you the future proof posibility to add 
>> another wireless bridge when a new and better standard is hitting the 
>> market. (I love to have both 802.11b and 802.11n bridges on my network, 
>> so I can have the 802.11n bridge running at its fastest setting).
> 
> Good advice. Suggestions on make/model for a multiport card supported by
> the stable distribution's kernel?

Intel cards have been well-supported for ages.

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Re: cannot log on to msn using pidgin on lenny amd64

[Mark Grieveson]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:34:19 + (UTC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I don't know how/where, and the gnome built-in bug
> reporting tool is buggy itself for me.

try using the command line program reportbug. It's much better than the
gnome bug-buddy.

Mark


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Re: project: wired/wireless router

[Gregory Seidman]

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:04:52PM +0200, oneman wrote:
> On 28-jun-2008, at 18:30, Gregory Seidman wrote:
>
>> I have a mini case with a VIA motherboard and CPU. It has an on-board
>> ethernet port. I'd like to use it as a Linux firewall/NAT router to
>> replace the (wired only) LinkSys I have now. It only has one PCI slot,
>> but I want to be able to provide both wired and wireless LAN access. I'm
>> looking for both hardware suggestions (i.e. a PCI card with both wired
>> and  wireless ethernet that is supported by the kernel in stable) and
>> configuration help.
>>
> Maybe not the answer that you were looking for. But seeing what your  
> requirements are, I'd simply add a two or four port ethernet card to the 
> case and plug a wireless bridge into one of the ports. This would be a 
> hassle free setup and give you all the options you need without having to 
> hunt down that probably rare or non existent card with both wireless and 
> wired. This would also give you the future proof posibility to add 
> another wireless bridge when a new and better standard is hitting the 
> market. (I love to have both 802.11b and 802.11n bridges on my network, 
> so I can have the 802.11n bridge running at its fastest setting).

Good advice. Suggestions on make/model for a multiport card supported by
the stable distribution's kernel?

> Groet,
> Peter Teunissen
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Re: cannot log on to msn using pidgin on lenny amd64

[Paul Johnson]

On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 11:15 +0800, Star Liu wrote:
> it's quite strange, the first time i used pidgin to log on to msn was
> quite smooth, but the second time when i logged on, i waited for about
> 2 minutes, then the 3nd time i logged on, about 5 minutes,., now,
> it totally refuses to log on! the bottom of pidgin stops at a waiting
> status, and the buddy list is empty.
> Is it a known bug? How could I work it around? 

Yes, this is a known bug.  It also affects support of ICQ, AIM, Yahoo,
Gadu-Gadu, MySpaceIM, QQ, and all other centrally-organized,
proprietary, private IM systems.  Most of them prohibit you from using
any client other than their own in the first place, and enforce this by
changing the protocol on a regular basis.

The workaround?  Don't use proprietary IM protocols:  Cut them off
instead.  Use XMPP instead.

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Re: Open Source Video Codec and Container (alternative to Xvid)

[Paul Johnson]

On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 13:28 +0200, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote:

> 2) Is there a real open source format what I should prefer? Can you say
> something about its quality?

Ogg is what you want.  It's probably currently best known for it's audio
layer, Vorbis, though it also has a video component called Theora.  From
my experience, Vorbis stacks up very nicely against MPEG, the latter
suffers from compression artifacts horribly at 128kbps when compared to
a similarly encoded Vorbis file, and the Vorbis file comes in smaller.

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Re: [OT] the limits of googling

[Owen Townend]

On 29/06/2008, James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Google searching is (still?) primitive.
>  >
>  > I would like to know the answer to a simple question:
>  >
>  > What are the most recent laptops that run Linux *and* have a working analog
>  > (RJ-11) modem installed?
>  >
>  > Listed by highest price first.
>  >
>  > Hugo
>  >
>  > PS All the searching I have done lead me to believe that they don't exist.
>  > But how do you prove that with Google?
>
>
>
> Not strictly an answer to your question, but the Linux Emporium sell a
>  proper hardware modem in a PCMCIA card, which should work with most
>  laptops I'd guess.
>
>
>  James.
>

Hey,

Again sidestepping the actual question:

I had this same issue when they started phasing out RS232 ports from
laptops, the solution for me was to use a usb adapter. I believe the
same solution may apply here. Staying with the google theme there are
results such as these:
http://www.google.com/products?&q=usb+56K+modem+linux

Though it then becomes yet another dongle to carry around...

cheers,
Owen.


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Re: [OT] the limits of googling

[Paul Johnson]

On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 08:59 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> What are the most recent laptops that run Linux *and* have a working 
> analog (RJ-11) modem installed?

By searching for a laptop with a real modem, before even taking Linux
into account, you have eliminated 100% of all available options:  It
doesn't exist.  Carry a real modem with you if you need a modem.  

Besides, do you really trust the phone company to provide proper voltage
and polarity?  Any idea what a line surge directly to your motherboard
does?  :o)

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xscreensaver and XDM login window

[David Witbrodt]

Has anyone on this list who runs XDM tried to get the 'xscreensaver'
to run on the login screen?  The 'man' page gives some instructions,
but those do not work for me.  In fact, the suggestion to place

xhost +localhost

in /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config does not work.  On my system, the way to 
run GUI apps as root under XOrg is more like this:

xhost +local:root

Using this in 'xdm-config' prevents the startup breakage, but still
does not allow 'xscreensaver' to run.

This is a matter of curiosity, just to see if anyone has been able
to get it working.  The 'xscreensaver' runs fine once my regular
user logs in, and I have the XOrg DPMS settings adjusted so that
the monitor blanks if no one logs in to the XDM login within 5
minutes.


Dave Witbrodt


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Re: [OT] the limits of googling

[Celejar]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:45:13 +0100
"James Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Google searching is (still?) primitive.
> >
> > I would like to know the answer to a simple question:
> >
> > What are the most recent laptops that run Linux *and* have a working analog
> > (RJ-11) modem installed?
> >
> > Listed by highest price first.
> >
> > Hugo
> >
> > PS All the searching I have done lead me to believe that they don't exist.
> > But how do you prove that with Google?
> 
> 
> Not strictly an answer to your question, but the Linux Emporium sell a
> proper hardware modem in a PCMCIA card, which should work with most
> laptops I'd guess.

They are also readily available on Ebay, for about $10 US including
shipping (to USA).  See this list of compatible hardware [0].  I use a
Xircom, which works quite well.

> James.

[0] http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ftp/SUPPORTED.CARDS [see the
section "Modem and serial cards:"]

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Re: Advice for troubleshooting X (total screen loss) -- Newb Alert

[Gabriel Parrondo]

El sáb, 28-06-2008 a las 16:57 -0400, Jeff Soules escribió:
> Thanks for the help so far, everyone.
> 
> > I have retried using both of the generic drivers.  Now I'm
> getting a
> > fatal server error -- no screens found.
> > Still not working, but at least it's enough to start me on
> further
> > research.
> >>
> > The monitor in question is an Acer 22" lcd, if anyone out
> there has
> > any experience with these.
> >
> 
> Can you post your xorg.conf and the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
> 
> 
> As requested I have attached my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log files.  I'm
> attaching the conf and log files which occurred using the nv driver,
> although I get the same results (near as I can tell) when using the
> vga driver.
> You can also see that I've disabled glx output and restricted screen
> resolution to 1024x768 or lower (non-widescreen resolutions) in the
> hope that this might help, but no luck so far.
> 
Ok, the xorg.conf seems ok. Just to be sure anyway, go back to the file
that was created by dpkg-reconfigure, since the modifications didn't
help there's no need for them to be there.


The problem doesn't seem monitor-related. What's the output of 'lspci |
grep VGA'?


And, BTW, you're using etch, right?


> To keep the message length down I have attached these files instead of
> copied the text.  Hope this doesn't violate any mailing list etiquette
> rules.
> 
> Haven't gotten the box to recognize the monitor yet, although I did
> manage to get the mouse configured correctly thanks to mdetect.  Is it
> unusual to have to require root privileges to open /dev/psaux ?  I
> couldn't cat that device file on my usual login, and mdetect could not
> discover it without being run as root.

Yes, it's normal. The X server is run as root anyway.


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*** More info *** Debian 4.0r3 for s/390, network install problem

[Ventura]

The instalation log:
Jun 28 23:37:58 main-menu[689]: INFO: Modifying debconf priority limit
from 'high' to 'medium'
Jun 28 23:37:58 debconf: Setting debconf/priority to medium
Jun 28 23:37:58 main-menu[689]: DEBUG: resolver (libc6): package
doesn't exist (ignored)
Jun 28 23:38:02 main-menu[689]: INFO: Menu item 'download-installer'
selected
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12:15:43 2008 UTC using DSA key ID D6518C9D
Jun 28 23:38:07 net-retriever: gpgv: Good signature from "Jorge
Ventura (Ventura) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
Jun 28 23:38:07 net-retriever:
Jun 28 23:38:08 anna[1227]: WARNING **: no packages for kernel in
archive

The repository apache log:
192.168.2.5 - - [28/Jun/2008:20:38:03 -0300] "GET /debian-1/dists/etch/
Release HTTP/1.1" 200 817 "-" "Wget"
192.168.2.5 - - [28/Jun/2008:20:38:03 -0300] "GET /debian-1/dists/etch/
Release.gpg HTTP/1.1" 200 189 "-" "Wget"
192.168.2.5 - - [28/Jun/2008:20:38:07 -0300] "GET /debian-1/dists/etch/
main/debian-installer/binary-s390/Packages.gz HTTP/1.1" 200 2532 "-"
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Re: Open Source Video Codec and Container (alternative to Xvid)

[Carl Fink]

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:15:15AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote:

Quoting me, but with attribution removed.

> >> BTW, I convert FLV to AVI with this command line:
> >> 
> >>ffmpeg -i filename.flv -sameq filename.avi
> 
> This converts to MPEG4 (ffmpeg's default choice, at least on my system)
> in an AVI container which is a bad combination:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVI#Continued_use

Aside from ideological purity, it makes little difference.  Using MP4 makes
the file something like 1% smaller, and with several players harder to seek
in.  I'm sure there's a way to tweak the MP4 to be more open to seeking, but
Good Enough is good enough for me.
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Re: How to add kaddressbook ldif file to ldap server (LDAP question)

[Jabka Atu]

I ve found the next link
http://www.hoernerfranzracing.de/kde/ldap.html?PHPSESSID=512fcd85b4816ca869bcb3c8ab2d35e5that
explains it.

the strange thing is that names in hebrew are deleated from the kaddressbook
file.

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>
>

Re: Open Source Video Codec and Container (alternative to Xvid)

[Jochen Schulz]

Jochen Schulz:
> Simon Jolle sjolle:
> 
>> How accepted is Ogg Theora in Non-Geek environments?
> 
> Not at all. It is even quite uncommon in non-geek environments.

Of course I meant to write "even quite uncommon on geek environments".

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Re: Open Source Video Codec and Container (alternative to Xvid)

[Jochen Schulz]

Simon Jolle sjolle:
> 
> It means AVI is the best choice for out-of-the-box playing on all
> platforms and devices?

AVI is only a container for audio and video content. It can contain
video encoded in many formats (MPEG2, MPEG4, H.264 etc). Just because a
player knows the container format doesn't mean it can decode the
content.

BTW, AVI is obsolete. MP4 (a container format defined in the MPEG4
standard) appears to become the new standard.

So what you're aiming for is to find the right combination of container,
video codec and audio codec. My suggestion would be to use H.264 video
and AAC audio in an MP4 container. If you choose the right settings,
these files should be playable on video iPods and PS3s (and any computer
with current software).

>> BTW, I convert FLV to AVI with this command line:
>> 
>>  ffmpeg -i filename.flv -sameq filename.avi

This converts to MPEG4 (ffmpeg's default choice, at least on my system)
in an AVI container which is a bad combination:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVI#Continued_use

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Re: project: wired/wireless router

[Nick Lidakis]

oneman wrote:


On 28-jun-2008, at 18:30, Gregory Seidman wrote:


I have a mini case with a VIA motherboard and CPU. It has an on-board
ethernet port. I'd like to use it as a Linux firewall/NAT router to 
replace

the (wired only) LinkSys I have now. It only has one PCI slot, but I want
to be able to provide both wired and wireless LAN access. I'm looking for
both hardware suggestions (i.e. a PCI card with both wired and wireless
ethernet that is supported by the kernel in stable) and configuration 
help.



Maybe not the answer that you were looking for. But seeing what your 
requirements are, I'd simply add a two or four port ethernet card to the 
case and plug a wireless bridge into one of the ports. This would be a 
hassle free setup and give you all the options you need without having 
to hunt down that probably rare or non existent card with both wireless 
and wired. This would also give you the future proof posibility to add 
another wireless bridge when a new and better standard is hitting the 
market. (I love to have both 802.11b and 802.11n bridges on my network, 
so I can have the 802.11n bridge running at its fastest setting).




I had done something similar with my monowall firewall running on a PC 
Engines WRAP board. Adding a mini-PCI wireless card, with its associated 
cables and antennas, would have been a big expense.  It was much cheaper 
to pick up a used Linksys WRT54G ($20 from Craigslist) and use it as a 
dedicated wireless AP. You can also use the the remaining  3 ethernet 
ports as you would a regular switch for the wired devices on your LAN.



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Re: Open Source Video Codec and Container (alternative to Xvid)

[Jochen Schulz]

Simon Jolle sjolle:
> On 06/28/2008 08:28 PM, Jochen Schulz wrote:
>> Why do you convert in the first place? Re-encoding files with a lossy
>> codec can only degrade their quality, no matter what bitrate you are
>> using.
> 
> I know that re-encoding degrades the quality. But my eyes don't see the
> difference :-)

But only because you choose to use a bitrate larger than the original
file. :)

> How accepted is Ogg Theora in Non-Geek environments?

Not at all. It is even quite uncommon in non-geek environments.

> Are the most desktop and devics (Game Consoles, DVR, etc) users by
> default able to play Ogg Theora?

Probably not. But by default you can't play many formats on most Windows
machines anyway. I advise Windows users to install VLC every time they
have trouble playing videos.

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Debian 4.0r3 for s/390, network install problem

[Ventura]

I am trying to do a network install of Debian 4.0r3 and unfortunately
I am receiving a message about modules unavailable.

This the part of installation dialog with the messages.
//
No kernel modules were found. This probably is due to a mismatch
between the kernel used by this version of the installer and the
kernel version available in the archive.
If you're installing from a mirror, you can work around this problem
by choosing to install a different version of Debian.
The install will probably fail to work if you continue without
kernel modules. Continue the install without loading kernel modules?

  
//-


The web log I have:

Jun 28 13:57:00 anna[936]: WARNING **: no packages for kernel in
archive

Have anybody ever had this problem or have any idea ???

Thanks in advance,
Jorge Ventura


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Re: Advice for troubleshooting X (total screen loss) -- Newb Alert

[Jeff Soules]

Thanks for the help so far, everyone.

> I have retried using both of the generic drivers.  Now I'm getting a
> > fatal server error -- no screens found.
> > Still not working, but at least it's enough to start me on further
> > research.
> >>
> > The monitor in question is an Acer 22" lcd, if anyone out there has
> > any experience with these.
> >
>
> Can you post your xorg.conf and the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log?


As requested I have attached my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log files.  I'm
attaching the conf and log files which occurred using the nv driver,
although I get the same results (near as I can tell) when using the vga
driver.
You can also see that I've disabled glx output and restricted screen
resolution to 1024x768 or lower (non-widescreen resolutions) in the hope
that this might help, but no luck so far.

To keep the message length down I have attached these files instead of
copied the text.  Hope this doesn't violate any mailing list etiquette
rules.

Haven't gotten the box to recognize the monitor yet, although I did manage
to get the mouse configured correctly thanks to mdetect.  Is it unusual to
have to require root privileges to open /dev/psaux ?  I couldn't cat that
device file on my usual login, and mdetect could not discover it without
being run as root.


Xorg.0.log
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xorg.conf
Description: Binary data

Debian 4.0r3 for s/390, network install problem

[Ventura]

I am trying to do a network install of Debian 4.0r3 and unfortunately
I am receiving a message about modules unavailable.

This the part of installation dialog with the messages.
//
No kernel modules were found. This probably is due to a mismatch
between the kernel used by this version of the installer and the
kernel version available in the archive.
If you're installing from a mirror, you can work around this problem
by choosing to install a different version of Debian.
The install will probably fail to work if you continue without
kernel modules. Continue the install without loading kernel modules?

  
//-


The web log I have:

Jun 28 13:57:00 anna[936]: WARNING **: no packages for kernel in
archive

Have anybody ever had this problem or have any idea ???

Thanks in advance,
Jorge Ventura


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Re: Advice for troubleshooting X (total screen loss) -- Newb Alert

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:34:50PM -0700, Memnon Anon wrote:
> On 27 Jun., 19:30, "Jeff Soules" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> Hi!
> 
> > After install, I attempt to start X using startx.  A few lines of text flash
> > on the screen, then it blacks out and the system buzzer gives me one
> > short beep.  I cannot alt-Fx to any other terminal and lose the terminal
> > I'm working in, and have to restart with ctrl-alt-del.
> 
> Sorry, can not help you with your original problem. But I wanted to
> suggest not using ctr-alt-del in such
> cases. Try using Magic SysRq: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
> They suggest a different sequence than I use (alt+print+ s e i u b.
> Mnemonic: "So, everything is unusual: Boot")
> but doing so, a loss of data is not so probable.
> 
> So whenever you really have no control over your system anymore, try
> those keys.
 
On my laptop with Sid Ctrl+Alt+Del triggers a normal shutdown. Only if 
it won't work I use magic sysrq s and b.

Regards,
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Re: [OT] the limits of googling

[Nate Bargmann]

* Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jun 28 09:01 -0500]:

I can't answer except from personal experience.  The former Lucent now
Agere chipset seems well supported by the Martian Modem driver in
Non-free.  I have Thinkpads 390e and T23 with that chipset and nary a
problem.  I know they're quite old by now.

Several years ago I had used a T42 with another chipset that was
supported by the HSF modem, I believe.  The author required $10 for a
code to run at higher than 14.4 kbps.  That was a bit of a pain but it
worked well enough.

I don't even know if analog modem functionality is included in new
laptops.  We have some T60s at work and I'm not sure about them or the
new Dells.  Even PCMCIA card slots may become a thing of the past. 
Does anyone make a USB modem?

- Nate >>

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Re: project: wired/wireless router

[oneman]

On 28-jun-2008, at 18:30, Gregory Seidman wrote:


I have a mini case with a VIA motherboard and CPU. It has an on-board
ethernet port. I'd like to use it as a Linux firewall/NAT router to  
replace
the (wired only) LinkSys I have now. It only has one PCI slot, but  
I want
to be able to provide both wired and wireless LAN access. I'm  
looking for
both hardware suggestions (i.e. a PCI card with both wired and  
wireless
ethernet that is supported by the kernel in stable) and  
configuration help.



Maybe not the answer that you were looking for. But seeing what your  
requirements are, I'd simply add a two or four port ethernet card to  
the case and plug a wireless bridge into one of the ports. This would  
be a hassle free setup and give you all the options you need without  
having to hunt down that probably rare or non existent card with both  
wireless and wired. This would also give you the future proof  
posibility to add another wireless bridge when a new and better  
standard is hitting the market. (I love to have both 802.11b and  
802.11n bridges on my network, so I can have the 802.11n bridge  
running at its fastest setting).







Groet,


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Re: Advice for troubleshooting X (total screen loss) -- Newb Alert

[Memnon Anon]

On 27 Jun., 19:30, "Jeff Soules" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
Hi!

> After install, I attempt to start X using startx.  A few lines of text flash
> on the screen, then it blacks out and the system buzzer gives me one
> short beep.  I cannot alt-Fx to any other terminal and lose the terminal
> I'm working in, and have to restart with ctrl-alt-del.

Sorry, can not help you with your original problem. But I wanted to
suggest not using ctr-alt-del in such
cases. Try using Magic SysRq: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
They suggest a different sequence than I use (alt+print+ s e i u b.
Mnemonic: "So, everything is unusual: Boot")
but doing so, a loss of data is not so probable.

So whenever you really have no control over your system anymore, try
those keys.

hth
memnon


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Re: Open Source Video Codec and Container (alternative to Xvid)

[Simon Jolle sjolle]

On 06/28/2008 04:36 PM, Carl Fink wrote:

Under US law, you may want to think about copyright issues.  I don't know
about any other country's laws.


Good input.


There's a Debian packaged mencoder at debian-multimedia.org.  Just add that
repository to your sources.list.


thanks.


It's going to be.  The AVI container format isn't suitable for the very
smallest file size, and you're setting a high bit rate.


Ogg Theora springs to mind.  It's totally free (no patents, no nothing). 
Quality is good, but ...


Not the right codec for Mac and Windows users (software not available)?


AVI works, actually.  Windows Media Video (WMV) is not open, but it's
playable on all three with the right software.  MP4 can be played on all
with the right software and will give you excellent compression.  Actually,
FLV is a good choice for web streaming.  You can play them locally, if you
can convince your users to install VLC or something.


I don't wish to use FLV because its a proprietary format developed and
maintained by one company. I don't wish to support closed formats.
Streaming is not a requirement for me.

It means AVI is the best choice for out-of-the-box playing on all
platforms and devices?


BTW, I convert FLV to AVI with this command line:

ffmpeg -i filename.flv -sameq filename.avi

You can automate this with:

for i in *.flv ; do ffmpeg -i {} -sameq `basename {} flv`.avi ; done

Using "-sameq" gives you the same bit rates as the original file.  If
desired, you can specify codecs as well, but the default MPEG4 ASP and MP2
works for me.  (If size is an issue, force MP3 compression.)


With your command line options the size problem still exists:

$ du -sk test*
10072   test.avi
2464test.flv
10104   test_mp3.avi

cheers
Simon





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Re: Open Source Video Codec and Container (alternative to Xvid)

[Simon Jolle sjolle]

On 06/28/2008 08:28 PM, Jochen Schulz wrote:

Why do you convert in the first place? Re-encoding files with a lossy
codec can only degrade their quality, no matter what bitrate you are
using.


I know that re-encoding degrades the quality. But my eyes don't see the
difference :-)

I already described in other posting that I am not a fanboy of Adobe's
proprietary products, pricing policy, etc


AFAIK the only "real open source format" is Ogg Theora. Which codec
yields the best quality depends a little bit on the bitrate you are
using. H.264 is generally a good choice, though. You can use ffmpeg
(from debian-multimedia.org) for this, too.


How accepted is Ogg Theora in Non-Geek environments? Are the most
desktop and devics (Game Consoles, DVR, etc) users by default able to
play Ogg Theora?

cheers
Simon






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Re: Open Source Video Codec and Container (alternative to Xvid)

[Simon Jolle sjolle]

On 06/28/2008 01:59 PM, Pol Hallen wrote:

What's improve? Only the file size or also the quality?


IMHO the quality of the original FLV is the same as my converted AVI. So
I only need to improve file size


Sure! U do the coding at 1000kb/s
I remember that flv files (from youtube) are about 550Kb/s



try: ffmpeg -i file.flv to view the code


thank you. Really good input!

Most clips even have much lower bitrate

$ ffmpeg -i example.flv
[...]
Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate:
1000.00 (1000/1) -> 29.92 (359/12)
Input #0, flv, from 'example.flv':
  Duration: 00:01:03.5, start: 0.00, bitrate: 56 kb/s
  Stream #0.0: Video: flv, yuv420p, 320x240, 29.92 fps(r)
  Stream #0.1: Audio: mp3, 22050 Hz, mono, 56 kb/s
Must supply at least one output file

and try something like: ffmpeg -i source.flv -b 500k -vcodec mpeg4 -vtag 
divx -acodec mp3 -ar 8000k -ab 64k destination.avi


and check size/quality


$ ffmpeg -i example.flv -b 500k -vcodec mpeg4 -vtag divx -acodec mp3 -ar
8000k -ab 64k example.avi

$ du -sh example.*
4.4Mexample.avi
2.5Mexample.flv

With the size I am happy. But the quality is much worse (often it is
jumping to the next frame)

Consider: are your file done for internet stream or local stream? and choose 
what you prefer :-)


Not for streaming. Just let other users downloading and archiving.

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Re: dvd and cd burning and ripping

[H.S.]

Daniel Dalton wrote:


So, do I need to create the video_ts folder into an iso image and then
burn the iso?


hmm .. other should correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think you 
really need to create the ISO image of a folder containing the VIDEO_TS 
folder. Just copying the VIDEO_TS (and the AUDIO_TS if you have that as 
well) folder to the DVD should suffice. It has been a little while, but 
IIRC that is what I did the few times I did that in the recent past.


->HS


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Re: dvd and cd burning and ripping

[H.S.]

Daniel Dalton wrote:
 >

Well, it is legal, all dvds belong to me, and others are just other
people's home movies...
So, mostly for backing up on other disks and on my hard drive and as I
said home movies.
(and im just playing with this stuff for a bit of fun)


I didn't try to hint that you were doing anything illegal, sorry if it 
came out that way ... only that you were having some fun with the movies 
and format shifting. The risk of getting flamed was because I was going 
to suggest a Windows application.






No, qt isn't supported yet by a screenreader, so they aren't
accessible. (kde is qt)
I think qt accessibility will be nice though because a lot of apps are
qt...


I see.



Thanks for your help.


You are welcome.
->HS



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Re: Open Source Video Codec and Container (alternative to Xvid)

[Jochen Schulz]

Simon Jolle sjolle:
> 
> 1) Its very generic command line to convert videos. What would you
> improve? The size is much bigger than the original FLV :(

Why do you convert in the first place? Re-encoding files with a lossy
codec can only degrade their quality, no matter what bitrate you are
using.

> 2) Is there a real open source format what I should prefer? Can you say
> something about its quality?

AFAIK the only "real open source format" is Ogg Theora. Which codec
yields the best quality depends a little bit on the bitrate you are
using. H.264 is generally a good choice, though. You can use ffmpeg
(from debian-multimedia.org) for this, too.

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Re: cannot log on to msn using pidgin on lenny amd64

[Jan Schmitt]

Hi,

> Is it a known bug? How could I work it around? though i can use amsn
> instead, but i prefered pidgin.

sorry I cannot really help you, but aMSN (in etch) doesn't work, either
since some days. In the aMSN forum I read that it's not a server issue
but an issue of aMSN itself. Anyhow, something must have changed because
some days ago it did work. The latest SVN version of aMSN should work,
but I didn't try it. So installing aMSN from debian might not fix your
problem. Hope this will be fixed in the etch-package soon. Maybe someone
can make a bugreport, I don't know how/where, and the gnome built-in bug
reporting tool is buggy itself for me.
Maybe you can find a working pidgin or more infos on the pidgin website.

Jan


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Re: Help with VLC - no longer plays video files

[Carl Fink]

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 01:27:20PM -0300, Gabriel Parrondo wrote:

> Of course you could also downgrade to last debian-multimedia compatible
> version if you have other packages that depend on ffmpeg, libavcodec51
> and friends.

That seemed like a lot of trouble to me, so I just switched to totem.
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Re: how to install flash plugin for iceweasel on leny amd64?

[Mark Grieveson]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:28:09 + (UTC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On lenny amd64, I often get the prompt to install flash plugin, but
> result in "unknown plugin... x-shockwave-flash", how could i fix it?
> Thanks!

Do you have the multimedia repository in your sources.list?  If not,
add 

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main

to your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list).  Then, after
updating, install flashplugin-nonfree.  That should work.  If not, you
could also install the flashplayer-mozilla package.

Mark


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project: wired/wireless router

[Gregory Seidman]

I have a mini case with a VIA motherboard and CPU. It has an on-board
ethernet port. I'd like to use it as a Linux firewall/NAT router to replace
the (wired only) LinkSys I have now. It only has one PCI slot, but I want
to be able to provide both wired and wireless LAN access. I'm looking for
both hardware suggestions (i.e. a PCI card with both wired and wireless
ethernet that is supported by the kernel in stable) and configuration help.

My requirements are:

1) Wireless is an independent subnet from the wired, and is firewalled from
   the wired LAN in the same way as the outside world.

2) Several open ports forwarded to not necessarily the same port on a
   machine on the wired LAN (e.g. ports 80, 22, 443).

3) WPA encryption on wireless.

4) UPNP support (wired and wireless).

5) NAT/DHCP support (wired and wireless).

6) Prioritize all wired traffic over wireless.

7) Prioritize all SIP (VoIP) traffic (via wired) over everything else.

Basically, I want my VoIP line to get the best bandwidth available on the
external connection, wired to get priority over wireless, and wireless to
be firewalled from the external interface (no forwarded ports at all,
except UPNP), but wired firewalled from both wireless and external
interfaces (with some forwarded ports). I don't feel the need to run my own
DNS, though, just routing.

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Re: Help with VLC - no longer plays video files

[Gabriel Parrondo]

El sáb, 28-06-2008 a las 16:51 +0100, andy escribió:
> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> > andy wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I cannot seem to get VLC to display the video when I am playing it.
> >> Instead, it only seems to play it as an audio file. The progress bar
> >> moves, but there is no video display. The settings seem to be fine, at
> >> least to my untutored eye. This is the same regardless of the format I
> >> am playing *.flv, *.mpg, *.avi, *.wmv etc.
> >>
> >> Any ideas what has happened here?
> >> 
> >
> > 
> [...]
> ===
> Carl Fink wrote:
> 
> I'll bet you're using files from debian-multimedia.org.  Their libraries are
> no longer compatible with the VLC distributed with Debian.  See the newsbox
> at that site for more information.
> 
> 
> and
> 
> Gabriel Parrondo wrote:
> 
> Y'know, that's entirely possible. So, I uninstalled VLC and purged all 
> of its config files and rm -fr .vlc and reinstalled using only the 
> official repos and still the same problem.
> 
> So, now what?
> 


Did you also purge its dependencies and reinstalled from official repos?
I think the relevant dependencies are: 
ffmpeg libavcodec51 libavdevice52 libavformat52 libavutil49
libpostproc51 libswscale0

but I would go for every dependency just to be sure. AFAIK, many users
are having the same problem and I think the recommendation from debian
is to use only official packages. 

Of course you could also downgrade to last debian-multimedia compatible
version if you have other packages that depend on ffmpeg, libavcodec51
and friends.



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Re: Help with VLC - no longer plays video files

[andy]

Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:

andy wrote:

  

Hi

I cannot seem to get VLC to display the video when I am playing it.
Instead, it only seems to play it as an audio file. The progress bar
moves, but there is no video display. The settings seem to be fine, at
least to my untutored eye. This is the same regardless of the format I
am playing *.flv, *.mpg, *.avi, *.wmv etc.

Any ideas what has happened here?



What is the version of VLC? What distribution are you using?

I would try some other player like mplayer first.

raju
  

Hi Raju

VLC version is 0.8.6e Janus

Other players (e.g. Xine and Kaffeine) play fine. VLC does not play 
*any* files, except as an audio track.


Error message is "(.:366): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 5503"

=
Ron Johnson wrote:

Do you have any Internet-accessible examples we could try?


Not really - I downloaded these off of the Internet and converted them 
from *.flv to *.mpg intending to write to a DVD. Two such examples would 
be Bill Mollison's "The global gardener" and the National Geographic 
film "The human footprint" (the latter is easily 90 minutes long though, 
so you may not want to download that simply to test!


===
Carl Fink wrote:

I'll bet you're using files from debian-multimedia.org.  Their libraries are
no longer compatible with the VLC distributed with Debian.  See the newsbox
at that site for more information.


and

Gabriel Parrondo wrote:

Y'know, that's entirely possible. So, I uninstalled VLC and purged all 
of its config files and rm -fr .vlc and reinstalled using only the 
official repos and still the same problem.


So, now what?

Thanks all

Andy

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Re: [OT] the limits of googling

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

James Youngman wrote:

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

Google searching is (still?) primitive.

I would like to know the answer to a simple question:

What are the most recent laptops that run Linux *and* have a working analog
(RJ-11) modem installed?

Listed by highest price first.

Hugo

PS All the searching I have done lead me to believe that they don't exist.
But how do you prove that with Google?



Not strictly an answer to your question, but the Linux Emporium sell a
proper hardware modem in a PCMCIA card, which should work with most
laptops I'd guess.



Indeed. But it irks me that I can't google for it(1) and to pay more 
than for a desktop with a piece of equipment that doesn't work(2).


Hugo


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Re: [OT] the limits of googling

[James Youngman]

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Google searching is (still?) primitive.
>
> I would like to know the answer to a simple question:
>
> What are the most recent laptops that run Linux *and* have a working analog
> (RJ-11) modem installed?
>
> Listed by highest price first.
>
> Hugo
>
> PS All the searching I have done lead me to believe that they don't exist.
> But how do you prove that with Google?


Not strictly an answer to your question, but the Linux Emporium sell a
proper hardware modem in a PCMCIA card, which should work with most
laptops I'd guess.

James.


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Re: Open Source Video Codec and Container (alternative to Xvid)

[Carl Fink]

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 01:28:47PM +0200, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote:

> I am running a forum with small video clips (from YouTube and others). I
> convert those Macromedia Flash videos with:

Under US law, you may want to think about copyright issues.  I don't know
about any other country's laws.
 
> $ mencoder example.flv -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=1000:autoaspect
> -vf pp=lb -oac mp3lame -lameopts fast:preset=standard -o example.avi
> 
> I use mencoder RPM from Dag Wieers

There's a Debian packaged mencoder at debian-multimedia.org.  Just add that
repository to your sources.list.
 
> 1) Its very generic command line to convert videos. What would you
> improve? The size is much bigger than the original FLV :(

It's going to be.  The AVI container format isn't suitable for the very
smallest file size, and you're setting a high bit rate.
 
> 2) Is there a real open source format what I should prefer? Can you say
> something about its quality?

Ogg Theora springs to mind.  It's totally free (no patents, no nothing). 
Quality is good, but ...

> 3) Whats the most painless format for exchanging videos with Win, Mac
> and Linux users?

AVI works, actually.  Windows Media Video (WMV) is not open, but it's
playable on all three with the right software.  MP4 can be played on all
with the right software and will give you excellent compression.  Actually,
FLV is a good choice for web streaming.  You can play them locally, if you
can convince your users to install VLC or something.

BTW, I convert FLV to AVI with this command line:

ffmpeg -i filename.flv -sameq filename.avi

You can automate this with:

for i in *.flv ; do ffmpeg -i {} -sameq `basename {} flv`.avi ; done

Using "-sameq" gives you the same bit rates as the original file.  If
desired, you can specify codecs as well, but the default MPEG4 ASP and MP2
works for me.  (If size is an issue, force MP3 compression.)
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Re: Help with VLC - no longer plays video files

[Carl Fink]

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 01:56:50PM +0100, andy wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I cannot seem to get VLC to display the video when I am playing it. 
> Instead, it only seems to play it as an audio file. The progress bar 
> moves, but there is no video display. The settings seem to be fine, at 
> least to my untutored eye. This is the same regardless of the format I 
> am playing *.flv, *.mpg, *.avi, *.wmv etc.

I'll bet you're using files from debian-multimedia.org.  Their libraries are
no longer compatible with the VLC distributed with Debian.  See the newsbox
at that site for more information.
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Re: Help with VLC - no longer plays video files

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On 06/28/08 07:56, andy wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I cannot seem to get VLC to display the video when I am playing it.
> Instead, it only seems to play it as an audio file. The progress bar
> moves, but there is no video display. The settings seem to be fine, at
> least to my untutored eye. This is the same regardless of the format I
> am playing *.flv, *.mpg, *.avi, *.wmv etc.
> 
> Any ideas what has happened here?

Do you have any Internet-accessible examples we could try?

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Re: Help with VLC - no longer plays video files

[Kamaraju S Kusumanchi]

andy wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I cannot seem to get VLC to display the video when I am playing it.
> Instead, it only seems to play it as an audio file. The progress bar
> moves, but there is no video display. The settings seem to be fine, at
> least to my untutored eye. This is the same regardless of the format I
> am playing *.flv, *.mpg, *.avi, *.wmv etc.
> 
> Any ideas what has happened here?

What is the version of VLC? What distribution are you using?

I would try some other player like mplayer first.

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Re: Help with VLC - no longer plays video files

[Gabriel Parrondo]

El sáb, 28-06-2008 a las 13:56 +0100, andy escribió: 
> Hi
> 
> I cannot seem to get VLC to display the video when I am playing it. 
> Instead, it only seems to play it as an audio file. The progress bar 
> moves, but there is no video display. The settings seem to be fine, at 
> least to my untutored eye. This is the same regardless of the format I 
> am playing *.flv, *.mpg, *.avi, *.wmv etc.
> 
> Any ideas what has happened here?


This seems to be a problem between the official and debian-multimedia
packages. Try reinstalling all vlc dependencies from the official
repository and clearing the plugin cache with 'vlc
--reset-plugins-cache.



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[OT] the limits of googling

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hi,

Google searching is (still?) primitive.

I would like to know the answer to a simple question:

What are the most recent laptops that run Linux *and* have a working 
analog (RJ-11) modem installed?


Listed by highest price first.

Hugo

PS All the searching I have done lead me to believe that they don't 
exist. But how do you prove that with Google?



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Re: 2.6.25 kernel on D820

[Pol Hallen]

> But with that kernel, the machine doesn't boot anymore. He can't find the
> disks (/dev/sda* in my case) anymore.
Is there initrd?

Have you tried with make oldconfig?

Pol


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Help with VLC - no longer plays video files

[andy]

Hi

I cannot seem to get VLC to display the video when I am playing it. 
Instead, it only seems to play it as an audio file. The progress bar 
moves, but there is no video display. The settings seem to be fine, at 
least to my untutored eye. This is the same regardless of the format I 
am playing *.flv, *.mpg, *.avi, *.wmv etc.


Any ideas what has happened here?

Cheers

Andy

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2.6.25 kernel on D820

[Bart Schelstraete]

Hello,

I've upgraded a Dell D820 (laptop) to 2.6.24 & 2.6.25 kernel with Debian (so
standard kernel).
But with that kernel, the machine doesn't boot anymore. He can't find the
disks (/dev/sda* in my case) anymore.
With the older 2.6.23, this still works.
Somebody who has the same problem?




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Re: gtk themes not applied when launching gtk apps from kmenu or kicker

[Brad Rogers]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:58:01 +0200
Dexter Filmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello Dexter,

> Funny issue here: when I launch gtk apps like Gimp, Sonata, gThumb
> from KMenu, kicker quick launcher or "run command" the gtk theme is
> not applied. When I run from a terminal, all fine.

In KDE Control Centre, look and see if the tick box in "Appearance &
Themes"- Colours - Apply to non-KDE applications, is checked.

Beyond, that, I'm not sure what it might be.

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Re: how to install flash plugin for iceweasel on leny amd64?

[Star Liu]

I'm afraid ia32 libs won't support amd64, i heard that no solution provided
for x86_64 cpus, but not sure.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 6:06 PM, michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
> On 27 Jun 2008, at 23:49, Star Liu wrote:
>
>  On lenny amd64, I often get the prompt to install flash plugin, but result
>> in "unknown plugin... x-shockwave-flash", how could i fix it?
>> Thanks!
>>
>
> For etch, (from memory so check the package names) I downloaded some ia32
> libs and nspluginwrapper and then the flash plugin
>
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Re: Open Source Video Codec and Container (alternative to Xvid)

[Pol Hallen]

> $ mencoder example.flv -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=1000:autoaspect
> -vf pp=lb -oac mp3lame -lameopts fast:preset=standard -o example.avi

> 1) Its very generic command line to convert videos. What would you
> improve? 
What's improve? Only the file size or also the quality?

> The size is much bigger than the original FLV :( 
Sure! U do the coding at 1000kb/s
I remember that flv files (from youtube) are about 550Kb/s

try: ffmpeg -i file.flv to view the code

and try something like: ffmpeg -i source.flv -b 500k -vcodec mpeg4 -vtag 
divx -acodec mp3 -ar 8000k -ab 64k destination.avi

and check size/quality

> 2) Is there a real open source format what I should prefer? Can you say
> something about its quality?
Consider: are your file done for internet stream or local stream? and choose 
what you prefer :-)

> 3) Whats the most painless format for exchanging videos with Win, Mac
> and Linux users?
mhmh.. xvid/divx/mp3/ogg

Pol


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gtk themes not applied when launching gtk apps from kmenu or kicker

[Dexter Filmore]

Funny issue here: when I launch gtk apps like Gimp, Sonata, gThumb from KMenu, 
kicker quick launcher or "run command" the gtk theme is not applied.
When I run from a terminal, all fine.
Created a new user account, fired up a kde session - all fine there, too.
Any idea how come?

Dex

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Open Source Video Codec and Container (alternative to Xvid)

[Simon Jolle sjolle]

Hi Debian users

I am running a forum with small video clips (from YouTube and others). I
convert those Macromedia Flash videos with:

$ mencoder example.flv -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=1000:autoaspect
-vf pp=lb -oac mp3lame -lameopts fast:preset=standard -o example.avi

I use mencoder RPM from Dag Wieers

1) Its very generic command line to convert videos. What would you
improve? The size is much bigger than the original FLV :(

2) Is there a real open source format what I should prefer? Can you say
something about its quality?

3) Whats the most painless format for exchanging videos with Win, Mac
and Linux users?

cheers
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Re: dvd and cd burning and ripping

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On 06/28/08 03:13, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:39:40AM -0700, Lee Glidewell wrote:
>> On Saturday 28 June 2008 12:31:55 am Daniel Dalton wrote:
 Yes, it is. For a Gtk based burning application, take a look at Brasero.
 wodim
>>> Can that do dvds? (that will play in all dvd players?)
>>>
>> Yes, it can. That said, whether or not it plays in a DVD player is more a 
> 
> So, do I need to create the video_ts folder into an iso image and then
> burn the iso?
> When I ripped it, I got a video_ts folder with vob files which mplayer
> can play.
> 
> Also, how would I burn single vob files from my camera to a dvd?
> (so the dvd player can play them)

Try the package (and app) DeVeDe.  It only makes simple DVDs, but
does work, and will convert any video type into the correct format.

Good news: there's a check box to indicate if the input format is
VOB/MPEG-PS.  That tells DeVeDe not to waste time converting to MPEG.

>> function of the file creation software than the burning software. So, if you 
> 
> So if the original disk did the burnt one should?
> 


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Re: how to install flash plugin for iceweasel on leny amd64?

[michael]

On 27 Jun 2008, at 23:49, Star Liu wrote:

On lenny amd64, I often get the prompt to install flash plugin, but  
result in "unknown plugin... x-shockwave-flash", how could i fix it?

Thanks!


For etch, (from memory so check the package names) I downloaded some  
ia32 libs and nspluginwrapper and then the flash plugin



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Re: dvd and cd burning and ripping

[Greg Madden]

On Friday 27 June 2008, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What tools should I use for the following:
> - ripping a cd
> - burning a cd
> - ripping a dvd
> - burning a dvd
>
> I used "ripit" for ripping a cd, is this a good tool? It seemed to go
> quite slow, but was ok.
> - Will wodim burn audio cds? Is this the best tool to use?
>
> I ripped a dvd with 'dvdbackup' is this the correct way of ripping a
> dvd movie?
> Or are there better tools. I ended up with a video_ts folder with lots
> of files inside including vob files I could play with mplayer... So is
> this how you rip a dvd? If so how can I then burn it to a blank dvd
> disk? (So I can watch it on the dvd player on the tv?)
>
> I am blind, so I can only use gtk applications, eg. gnome ones and of
> course command line stuff.
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
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ripping a dvd I use dvdrip, it rips the dvd then  uses transcode to create 
a file,  mpeg, avi, ogg. I store them on a hard drive, mythtv box, to 
view so I haven't burned to dvd any of them.  xine is my current favorite 
movie viewer.

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Re: dvd and cd burning and ripping

[Wackojacko]

Daniel Dalton wrote:

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:39:40AM -0700, Lee Glidewell wrote:

On Saturday 28 June 2008 12:31:55 am Daniel Dalton wrote:

Yes, it is. For a Gtk based burning application, take a look at Brasero.
wodim

Can that do dvds? (that will play in all dvd players?)

Yes, it can. That said, whether or not it plays in a DVD player is more a 


So, do I need to create the video_ts folder into an iso image and then
burn the iso?


Yes, genisoimage in debian will create dvd-video iso images which can 
then be burnt by wodim.  But there is an outstanding bug in genisoimage 
that means some standalone players wont play them.  My Panasonic DVD 
recorder for one :(.



When I ripped it, I got a video_ts folder with vob files which mplayer
can play.

Also, how would I burn single vob files from my camera to a dvd?
(so the dvd player can play them)


You need to create the dvd-video structure.  dvdauthor is the tool from 
the command line that does this.  Its very simple to get a basic dvd 
with no menus, but with some learning you can create very good looking 
dvd's.


function of the file creation software than the burning software. So, if you 


So if the original disk did the burnt one should?



Yes but beware of the bug on some standalone players.

HTH

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Re: dvd and cd burning and ripping

[Daniel Dalton]

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:39:40AM -0700, Lee Glidewell wrote:
> On Saturday 28 June 2008 12:31:55 am Daniel Dalton wrote:
> > > Yes, it is. For a Gtk based burning application, take a look at Brasero.
> > > wodim
> >
> > Can that do dvds? (that will play in all dvd players?)
> >
> 
> Yes, it can. That said, whether or not it plays in a DVD player is more a 

So, do I need to create the video_ts folder into an iso image and then
burn the iso?
When I ripped it, I got a video_ts folder with vob files which mplayer
can play.

Also, how would I burn single vob files from my camera to a dvd?
(so the dvd player can play them)

> function of the file creation software than the burning software. So, if you 

So if the original disk did the burnt one should?

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2008 #1206

[Sathyainkara Balendra]

,Hello world'
I am using Sid, not ready for Lenny and far away from stable release;
Give me some time;
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Re: [OT] quick question about function declarations in C++

[Mumia W..]

On 06/27/2008 11:30 PM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:

[...]
I think that C++ or any programming related questions are appropriate on
this list. [...]


With all due respect Mr. Kusumanchi, you're wrong.

http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/2D078D31-24DA-4CC9-A3D2-E90325AC2817/
http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/2B45BB8F-3709-4CC5-9248-18431BE5D520/ [0]

On a completely unrelated note, I want to apologize to the list for 
forgetting to trim from time to time.



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Re: Alternative for fetchmail

[Andrei Popescu]

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 06:26:07PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Salut AP,
> 
> Am 2008-06-25 13:54:37, schrieb Andrei Popescu:
> > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 06:12:30PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
> >  
> > > Getmail is pretty good, it's a bit slower than fetchmail but it works.
> > 
> > Did you test or is this just anecdotal evidence?
> 
> I HAVE TESTET IT not.
> And it is so slow, that I have never gotten mail.

Interesting. I am running getmail for three accounts and I have no 
problems. Did you try the getmail mailing list? Charles Cazabon (the 
Author) is very active and answers personally all queries.

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Re: dvd and cd burning and ripping

[Lee Glidewell]

On Saturday 28 June 2008 12:31:55 am Daniel Dalton wrote:
> > Yes, it is. For a Gtk based burning application, take a look at Brasero.
> > wodim
>
> Can that do dvds? (that will play in all dvd players?)
>

Yes, it can. That said, whether or not it plays in a DVD player is more a 
function of the file creation software than the burning software. So, if you 
have files/filesystem images that play in DVD player, the burned DVD will 
play. 

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Re: dvd and cd burning and ripping

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On 06/28/08 01:24, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> What tools should I use for the following:
> - ripping a cd

abcde, which is a great CLI tool.

> - burning a cd

In GNOME, I haven't had success burning ISO images to CD.

> - ripping a dvd

For what purpose?  Getting a direct, byte-for-byte copy of the DVD,
or a compressed version of the movie?

Anyway, try dvdrip.

> - burning a dvd

Brasero.

> I used "ripit" for ripping a cd, is this a good tool? It seemed to go
> quite slow, but was ok. 
> - Will wodim burn audio cds? Is this the best tool to use?
> 
> I ripped a dvd with 'dvdbackup' is this the correct way of ripping a dvd
> movie?

Depends on what you want.  Is your goal to compress the movie even
further?

> Or are there better tools. I ended up with a video_ts folder with lots
> of files inside including vob files I could play with mplayer... So is
> this how you rip a dvd? If so how can I then burn it to a blank dvd
> disk? (So I can watch it on the dvd player on the tv?) 

Brasero.  Choose the "Burn Image" button, and point it at the
directory above the VIDEO_TS folder,

> I am blind, so I can only use gtk applications, eg. gnome ones and of
> course command line stuff.

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Re: dvd and cd burning and ripping

[Daniel Dalton]

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:07:24AM -0700, Lee Glidewell wrote:
> On Friday 27 June 2008 11:57:21 pm Daniel Dalton wrote:
> > Isn't k3b qt based (kde)?
> >
> Yes, it is. For a Gtk based burning application, take a look at Brasero. 
> wodim 

Can that do dvds? (that will play in all dvd players?)

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Re: dvd and cd burning and ripping

[Lee Glidewell]

On Friday 27 June 2008 11:57:21 pm Daniel Dalton wrote:
> Isn't k3b qt based (kde)?
>
Yes, it is. For a Gtk based burning application, take a look at Brasero. wodim 
is very easy to use, though, and the man page contains examples of most use 
cases (including audio files). 

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