Re: Athlon XP Motherboard Advice Sought
On Saturday 01 June 2002 5:25 am, Simon Read wrote: > I'm considering building an Athlon XP 2100+ based system. I'd like to > build it with a 333 MHz Front Side Bus. I'm considering KT333 based > motherboards from various manufacturers. I'm especially enamoured > with the EPoX 8K3A+. Does anyone out there have any experiences they'd > be willing to share? First off the KT333 is FSB200/266 DDR200/266/333 not FSB & DDR 200/266/333 . But the best PC2700 board is the Abit KX333 or Asus A7V333, with the KX7 beatin' the A7V on it's extra DIMM & PCI slot (find the extra slots useful) with the slighly more sane position of the FDD port give it the edge. Ani -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cdparanoia error from SCSI emulation?
After an old SCSI CD-ROM dyin' I've replaced it with an IDE, temorarly, and am usin' SCSI emulation on the drive, basicaly so everything is still the same, but I've noticed when rippin CD's I get the followin' error.. I've not seen this before is this just to do with the SCSI emulation or is it something to do with the IDE drive? scsi_read error: sector=0 length=7 retry=0 Sense key: 5 ASC: 64 ASCQ: 0 Transport error: Illegal SCSI request (rejected by target) System error: Invalid argument TIA Ani
Re: OT: BIG drives in old P90 ??
On Saturday 16 March 2002 4:50 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > I've an old Pentium 90MHz. The CPU is probably about the only > notable component with a brandname on it. I want to put another drive in > it, but am wondering about the ability of this old machine to handle the > huge hard drives that are on the market. > > Specifically, > > 1) Will the kernel be able to see a 20-100 GB drive if the BIOS >can't see it ? Last time I checked, the kernel wasn't > bothered by the BIOS's limitations, but last time I checked, > a ten GB drive was astronomically huge. I'm runnin' various Dell Optiplex's with 20~80Gb HD's none of them can see more than 8.4Gb one no more than but from within' linux I can see the HD... The only problem is that some BIOS's crash when they see drives over 32Gb :( > > 2) Should I be worried about the heat of a 7200 RPM drive ? > This box has nothing more than the power supply fan, and > the CPU fan to keep things cool. Also, the HD cage of this > case is really tight --- there is very little space for air > to circulate between the drives, and there are already two > drives in the cage. Actually, there is really only space > for two HD in the cage. The new one will being hanging upside > down from the bottom of the mounting cage. To be honest unless you're gonna put a second IDE card get a 5k4 rpm drive cause you're just spendin' money on something you're not gonna use & causes more problems. Havin' said that goin' back to the Optiplex's in a few I'm usin' Seagate Barra' IV's, for the low noise. I have, however, moded the case to have a fan blowin' air over the HD & replaced th PSU fan (for a, compared to the fan that I removed, 'high ouput' Papst 612 M). This has brought the suface temp of the segate down from 45~47°C to 34~36°C. Graham
Re: hey..mpg123?
On Saturday 02 February 2002 11:01 pm, Petre Daniel wrote: > i got 2.2r4 and it says something but the package that is obsoleted when i > try to apt-get install mpg123.. > what's happening? :))) I know what you're talkin' about, I got it to from a 2.2r3 CD turned out that mpg123 is only on the CD as a refrence for xmms or something like that, the solution is simple as I'm guessing you've not got any sources besided the CD. If I'm right add some sources to /etc/apt/sources.list then # apt-get update # apt-get install mpg123 Ani
Help, can't build working netfiler
Okay I did a dist-upgrade to the latest SID on 5/01/2002, replaced the new bin-utils that caused the kernel not to compile but now I can't build netfiler, I try any kernel and any version I get the following (or something very simlar to). This is from a clean 2.4.13 source & then patched with ac8 & used a config that worked perfectly before I built the kernel, besided lack of plip & slip support. I'm lost Ani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/firewall restart /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_register_sockopt_Rsmp_24711385 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt_Rsmp_c3edea95 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod ip_tables failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_register_sockopt_Rsmp_24711385 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt_Rsmp_c3edea95 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod iptable_filter failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_register_sockopt_Rsmp_24711385 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt_Rsmp_c3edea95 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod iptable_mangle failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_register_sockopt_Rsmp_24711385 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt_Rsmp_c3edea95 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod iptable_nat failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_register_sockopt_Rsmp_24711385 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt_Rsmp_c3edea95 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod ipt_LOG failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_register_sockopt_Rsmp_24711385 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt_Rsmp_c3edea95 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod ipt_limit failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_register_sockopt_Rsmp_24711385 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt_Rsmp_c3edea95 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod ipt_mac failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_register_sockopt_Rsmp_24711385 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt_Rsmp_c3edea95 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod ipt_mark failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_register_sockopt_Rsmp_24711385 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt_Rsmp_c3edea95 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod ipt_multiport failed /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_register_sockopt_Rsmp_24711385 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt_Rsmp_c3edea95 /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.13-ac8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter
Re: OT: performance problems.
On Monday 07 January 2002 1:54 am, Dries Kimpe wrote: > on the original and copy. While I was doing that, load also got up to 3-4. > Looking at top, I saw that some kernel daemon (think kupdated) got *AlOT* > of CPU. The system also started responding slow (missing eth0 traffic, > ...) > > Maybe it's normal, > maybe it's a kernel bug (only seem to have it with AMD) / chipset bug? Any South Bridge/VIA 686* North Bridge (hope that's the right way round) with untweaked PCI latency = missing of data on anything atached to the PCI bus :( I've not seen this behaviour with _pure_ AMD, SiS & Ali chipset mobo's & currently activly trying to move all my systems to pure AMD/SiS/Ali chipset mobos... :(..
Re: OT: performance problems.
On Sunday 06 January 2002 3:52 pm, martin f krafft wrote: > folks, sorry if i am posting this here, but i am sort of clueless, and > i'd love some advise from you wise people! > > i have this AMD Thunderbird 1.3 GHz machine with 512Mb of SD-RAM, a 1Gb > swap partition on a 20Gb 5400 seagate IDE drive. that's quite powerful, > isn't it? Well it might not be the CPU that's at fault, what's your soundcard & mobo, even with the most sorted latency on VIA chipsets I'm still getting problems with sound cards @ high CPU loads (specialy when building & compressing). This can be agrvated by soundcards with problems (creative SB Lives being a prime candidate)... I was havin' a fight with an SB Live on a dual 1900XP system 512Mb DDR & a mix of 7k2 rpm IDE & 10k0 rpm SCSI drives. Ani
Re: Need url for debian sources..
On Monday 31 December 2001 2:10 am, dman wrote: > http://cdimage.debian.org/rsync-mirrors.html I would use that page but I've yet to get a page from that server :( I can ping it but I never get a page *sigh*. I thought it was a Freeserve problem but it also happens on other ISP's :(... The only problem I had was finding sparc CD images.. but where are the local mirrors for cdimage? Ani
xlockmore - disabling public logout
okay, I'm wanting to use xlockmore to secure my machine localy.. but I can't.. cause of that damn public logout box.. I've read the man & info pages but I see no refrence about how to disable the damn thing. The other thing is I also want to provent people switching to (unused)terminals I can see the options in the man pages but the when I try to use them it comes 'bad command line option' etc.. TIA Ani
Largedisk-HOWTO clarifcation
The Largedisk-HOWTO is a little unclear about this, but I take it that Linux couldn't give a monkys about the disk size specifed in the BIOS and will address the full size of the disk (as long as it's below 127Gb). Is that right? Ani
Re: What's a debian kid look like?
22 y/o Fem, English, single mother of 1, Free-lance Audio & Comp Techi. with NVQ
SparcUltra2 Q.
Okay I'm gettin' a SparcUltra 2 'toy' after I come back from the christmas break I was kind of wantin' to run Debian on it. As I understand it I need to use a 'Sparc64' Port but there's only a Sparc port, so what am I to do?.. give up on Debian for my Ultra & Run NetBSD or use the Sparc port of Debian. TIA Ani
Performence: ext2/3 v's reiserfs, I/O per sec & gkrellm
hdparm is reporting harddrive performence of >30Mb/s, yet ext2 & ext3 when copying from 1 disk to another (on seprate channels) performence is sub 5k I/O per sec. but reiserfs I'm getting over 30k I/O's per sec EH? i've obviously missed something here Also how can I work out aprox. I/O's per second for a given drive performence. Though my current method of hdparm -t /dev/hdc like 10 times works i'd much prefer to do 35Mb/s SDR = xxI/O per sec. And one last thing I've got 4 IDE drives, why can I only get stats in gkrellm for hda & hdb and not hdc & hdd?
Re: How do you repair a bad LILO?
On Monday 26 November 2001 05:25, jennyw wrote: > I reinstalled Debian 2.2. After installing the base system, it rebooted > fine to finish the rest of the install. I logged in and used it for a bit > then decided to reboot again. This time it hung after showing "LIL-". I > asked on #debian on IRC and folks said this meant I had a bad LILO MBR. > Someone suggested that I try typing "rescue root=/dev/hda1" at the boot: > prompt. I tried this booting off of the install CD and it ended up loading > my Debian install just fine, but it doesn't seem to fix the problem when I > reboot. > > I then booted off a boot floppy and tried to run lilo. It said that there > was no lilo.conf file. I did a search on the filesystem for lilo.conf and > there is no file anywhere ... At this point I'm reinstalling (again!), but > I'd like to know how to fix this problem for the future. Make a /etc/lilo.conf file something like: = BEGIN /etc/lilo.conf = lba32 boot=/dev/hda install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map delay=20 prompt #single-key #delay=100 #timeout=100 default=2.4.6 image=/boot/bzImage-2.4.6 label=2.4.6 root=/dev/hda1 vga=791 read-only image=/boot/bzImage-2.4.6-ac label=2.4.6-ac5 root=/dev/hda1 vga=791 read-only image=/boot/bzImage-2.4.13-ac label=2.4.13-ac8 root=/dev/hda1 vga=791 read-only other=/dev/hdb1 label=BSD == END /etc/lilo.conf ==
Re: Virus incident
On Friday 23 November 2001 04:36, Brian Nelson wrote: > Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Yes, and newbies are also users, so their questions are appropriate in > > this forum. > > So you're saying newbie questions are appropriate... Very much so! > But no one wants to read newbie questions. So why are they > appropriate if no one wants to read them? They're deb users right? > Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with newbies banding > together and trying to answer each other's questions. Sounds like it > would be a great learning experience. Were you born that short sighted & elitist or do you have to practice? They're probably having the most dificult time with computers since they started using them or even THE MOST difficult time with a computer. They are finding the fundmentals of their venture into Linux/UNIX dis-information, mis-understood concepts & bad practices started now can make for major problems latter. Guess what, you've just proposed the best wat to propergate dis-information & bad practices while also promoting mis-understood concepts. > Newbies are nothing more than impatient learners. I don't understand > why it's so important to help them on this list. See above, & cause they're the next generation of users. Is it to much to ask to give a guying hand, a > I think it's more helpful to not help them, just point them toward the docs > and let them help themselves. It will make for a far better Debian > experience for them in the long run. You mean man pages.. RTFM, well I've RTFM & for the first 6 month of linux I typicaly was more confused AFTER reading the man pages than before. They require a level of knolage & understanding and often newbies DON'T have that. > Besides, those Outlook attributions are so god damn annoying. They > polute the list and make my eyes hurt. Do something about it then, help people no NOT use outlook. Ani
Re: Question about dselect:
On Tuesday 20 November 2001 01:08, Petro wrote: > I have a little...issue with dselect. > > I'm trying to set up a base configuration for a fleet of servers, > and I want certain software, and *only* certain software on them. > > At least one of these pieces of software is a perl modules that > wants to have libc6-dev, which is fine as far as that goes, > but it seems that libc6-dev recommends that I install gcc, and it's > rather most insistent that I install it, even if I tell dselect _ > (purge) and (Do what I tell you numbskull). > > Is there a way to tell dselect ONCE AND FOR ALL that I have no wish > to install gcc on this machine? 'Tis this exact behaviour that's made me move to apt-utils, to install packages, apt-get only installs the dependencys which is what I like (I prefer to turn on bells & whisles not off). I know it's not what you wanted, but that's my solution. Ani
Re: apt-get problem
On Tuesday 13 November 2001 00:12, Howland, Curtis wrote: > > Hi. Last night I was doing a Woody install of some various Japanese > > and Chinese language input software, as well as the incremental > > updates. It was a 5 hour download, so I went to sleep to deal with it > > in the morning. > > > > However, the dial-up session died during the night, and more than half > > of the packages did not download. dselect shows the packages as > > "dependency broken" or "to be upgraded" still, but when I try to > > restart the download, apt does not think there are any packages to > > > > download. I get the following error: > > > Reading Package Lists... Done > > > Building Dependency Tree... Done > > > Correcting dependencies... Done > > > The following NEW packages will be installed: > > > canna canna-shion chinput cjk-latex dialog expat freetype1-tools > > > imlib1 > > > kdelibs3-cups libcanna1g libexpat1 libkpathsea3 libpaperg libpth13 > > > libtabe-db libtabe0 libwww0 libxmltok1 perl-tk psutils rxvt > > > > rxvt-ml > > > > > tetex-base tetex-bin tfm-arphic-bsmi00lp ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp > > > ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp unicon-im xa+cv xcin xcin2.3 xcingb > > > xfonts-arphic-bsmi00lp xfonts-arphic-gbsn00lp xfonts-cmex-big5p > > > xfonts-intl-chinese > > > 50 packages upgraded, 36 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not > > > upgraded. > > > 3 packages not fully installed or removed. > > > Need to get 0B/95.4MB of archives. After unpacking 130MB will be > > > > used. > > > > > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n > > > Abort. > > > > So how do I tell apt that its database is broken, the .deb's have not > > been downloaded yet, and it should be "Need to get 95.4MB" of > > archives", not "0B/95.4MB"? By deleteing the contence of /var/cache/apt/archives but keep /var/cache/apt/archives/partial Ani
Re: Thoghts on a computer as a stero component?
On Saturday 10 November 2001 19:03, Stan Brown wrote: > OK, I'v got the bug. > > I'm siting here thinking about giving my stero system (medium high end) a > computer for Christmas :-) > > Seroiousl what have people done for computers used promarliy as a steror > system component? Seems to me tahe niose sheidling would be priority No.1, > followed closely by a reasonably compact design, and then, a failry smalle, > but usuable display. My system is made up with rackmount units so I used a rackmount PC, I doubt that'll be sutible for you though, I duno what the case is it was from a computer fair. For a small PC try the Asus Terminator I've got the P-III version it's small, quiet & everything is supported in linux. I'm using it to write this email. This thing runs 24/7 with a half speed P-III 866 (no need for fan on the HS), 512Mb PC-133 & the latest Seagate HDD, I've changed the fan in mine for something quiter. It's no speed demon but it's not slow either. http://www.digit-life.com/articles/asusterminator/ The Shuttle SV24 is better looking, smaller, but louder as it uses a 60mm fan, the asus uses a slow 92mm fan. I think the only thing that is slighly suspect is the audio but its got a PCI slot so that can be solved. http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2001q4/shuttle-sv24/index.x?pg=1 Noise isn't too much of a problem with these things, the Asus with just it's 2mm fan runs cool and is almost silent. Ani
Re: Mouse wheel in woody
On Friday 09 November 2001 00:01, Steffen Evers wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 23:33, Aniartia wrote:
> > > Is it the same procedure with woody (XFree86 4.1.0)?
> >
> > Yes but you shouldn't need to do this:
> > > > in Xsession:
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > # Starts the imwheel process from the global
> > > > # Xsession file.
> > > > . /etc/X11/imwheel/startup.conf
> > > > if [ "$IMWHEEL_START" = "1" ]; then
> > > > /usr/bin/imwheel ${IMWHEEL_PARAMS}
> > > > fi
> > > > -
>
> I am using gpm with a raw repeater to /dev/gpmdata. Is there something to
> consider?
If it truly is a raw repeater nope but I don't have a clue. My tendecey would
be to turn off gpm for a bit, try it without gpm (some mice don't seem to
work with the XF86 v4 scroll maping anyway), if it works then try with gpm.
Ani
Re: Mouse wheel in woody
On Thursday 08 November 2001 21:54, Steffen Evers wrote:
> Is it the same procedure with woody (XFree86 4.1.0)?
Yes but you shouldn't need to do this:
> > in Xsession:
> >
> > -
> > # Starts the imwheel process from the global
> > # Xsession file.
> > . /etc/X11/imwheel/startup.conf
> > if [ "$IMWHEEL_START" = "1" ]; then
> > /usr/bin/imwheel ${IMWHEEL_PARAMS}
> > fi
> > -
Re: Which installer? Aptitude, dselect deity...
On Thursday 08 November 2001 00:31, Brian Nelson wrote: > Jesse Goerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I had been using this method for about a year before I even > > learned of apt-cache search, et all. > > > > If you install a program and it's missing a feature, check for > > suggests and recommends, that almost always fixed what I thought > > was "broken." > > All the more reason to use dselect instead, though it's overly > persistent about recommends. I'd say that it's a good reason NOT to use dselect, install what you need & use and only what you need & use. dselect also has this anoying tendancy to blowaway packages when you've built your own dependecy for some reason. Ani
Re: Weird File Permissions
On Wednesday 07 November 2001 22:33, Sunny Dubey wrote: > hey, > > what does it mean to have an S or an s when doing ls -l ?? > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED])(/)$ ls -l | grep home > drwxrwsr-x8 root staff1024 Oct 15 12:02 home I thought s = execute with SUID And this is the point where I get told I'm totaly wrong! ;) Ani
Re: some questions (after a HD crash)
On Sunday 04 November 2001 15:21, Darren Wyn Rees wrote: > My little box crashed yesterday. The hard disk started making > a repetitive whining, metallic noise. Welcome to the world of dieing IBM as experenced by me 8 times. > The hard disk is an IBM 40GB. Not sure of the model, but it's > only about 4 months old, so I should be able to return it under > the guarantee. Well if it's the 7k2 rpm drives GPX75's are notoriously bad for reliablty & I've found that GPX60's need to be in the direct flow of air from a fan other wise they tend to over heat. > What is the best way to WIPE data on the disk ? IBM ain't gonna go in for data recovery, so you'd probably get away with just a format of the partitions. If you're paraniod about it try: * Boot up on a floppy * Delete & reparition using diffrent partiton sizes * Format the partions * Delete all the partitions Ani
Re: Installing XFree86
On Saturday 03 November 2001 17:24, John Purser wrote: > Would someone either post a summary of the steps involved or point me to a > HOW-TO that shows how to install this the debian way? I got so confused I edited my sources.lst then # apt-get update # apt-get upgrade # apt-get install apt debconf dpkg apt-utils mime-support # apt-get dist-upgrade # apt-get install gnome-core galeon everybuddy cvs rsync kde toolame gnucash xpdf xmms libncurses5 wine I also apt-get'ed every x package with 4.1.0 in it's version ;) (use the packages search page) Ani
Re: Question about memory use in Linux
On Saturday 03 November 2001 18:52, David P James wrote: > My Debian Woody box has 128Mb of RAM, and a 128Mb swap partition... > ...I understand that linux uses essentially as much RAM as it can > because it is there. Now, I opened up that colossal memory hog, WP9 for > linux. The RAM usage shot up to 99% (about 7Mb more) BUT the swap usage > only went up by .75Mb... ...Then, shutting down all 4 apps of WPO had an > interesting effect - swap usage slipped by 3Mb but RAM usage went below > 100Mb, or 80%. This is easy, it's called a file cache.. ;) you see linux keeps a copy of files you've opened in memory to speed up secondary access of file. If you open a new file or exicute a binary, if it's got a load of file cache it'll purge the older files from the cache to make way for the 'new' binary. When I open a 200Mb file it'll page a little bit into swap but most ram will be reclamed from the file cache (given that I've normaly got a >1Gb file cache). > A somewhat related question is there any point in having 128Mb of swap? If > I had had 64 instead would it still carry on as it does or would it have > scaled back the system's swap usage in some proportion? I duno, I tend to run 2-4Gb swap partitions (mainly cause I have older SCSI HD's in the 2-4Gb area) and typicaly I've got 100Mb of swap (currently I've got 91Mb swap, with a 1.3Gb file cache & 160Mb used). > Likewise, would adding another swap partition increase the amount of swap > being used or just spread it around some more? Adding a 2nd swap file on a disk seems counter productive as you've not got 2 stores and unless the swap priorty is the same will jump between then making things slower. I don't understand swap priortys but to say you can tell linux to swap to 1 partition in prefrence to another. Multi-swap partitions on seperate disks can make swap faster but on IDE disks it seems to be more of a hinderence than a benafit, SCSI seems to benafit from havin' swap distrubuted over serveral drives. Ani
Re: sources list additions
On Saturday 03 November 2001 09:52, Martin Kacerovsky wrote: > My sources list: > deb http://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free > > > I am in Czech republic but I think that bulgarian servers are "bloody" fast > :) QUIET! don't tell everyone!.. you'll spoil secret to finding fast reliable mirrors! Ani
Re: IDE CD recorder, in machine with SCSI tape?
On Saturday 03 November 2001 01:37, Stan Brown wrote: > NOw, acording to the CD Recording HOWTO, I should be able to run "cdrecord > -scanbus" and see what my avaialble devise are. Unfortunately, on both > machines it just reports 7 slots, one of which has the SCSI tape in it. I've always had problems with "cdrecord -scanbus" I never seem to get the second scsi bus on my machines (where all the CD burners are) scaned but using "cdrecord dev=1,4,0 speed=8 /path/to.iso" works fine for my 8x4x24 Yam. First off SCSI emulation is the second scsi bus (as the first bus is your real scsi card). I'd be guessing that a virtual scsi controler would at the first scsi device (1,0,0) so I'd try 1,1,0. What I would do is to try to burn a cd without a cd in the burner starting at 1,0,0 and increasing that second number (the device id), you'll either get something about the device not existing or it'll barf when it checks the media but before then you'll get a load of info about te burner. HTH Ani
Re: 2nd core pointer speed settings in XFree4
On Monday 29 October 2001 12:28, you wrote: > this option won't work on my USB tablett but also not with my PS/2 > Mouse. Mh, what am I doing wrong... It might be that it won't work :(.. from the XF86Config-v3 man pages: Resolution count sets the resolution of the device in counts per inch. This is not always supported by all the mice. Try it with just a window manager, I know that KDE blows away the resolution setings for my mice :(, and I'd have a good guess that Gnome would do the same as well :(. FWIW ripped from my config file: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "TrackMan FX" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" Option "Protocol" "MouseManPlusPS/2" Option "Resolution" "255" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "M-C48" Driver "mouse" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse1" Option "Protocol" "MouseMan" Option "Resolution" "130" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" # does this work? EndSection Ani
Re: 2nd core pointer speed settings in XFree4
On Monday 29 October 2001 11:24, Timo \"Blazko\" Boewing wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Today I installed an USB graphic tablet under Sid w/ XF86 v4. I
> installed the tablet as second USB mouse device and it works well in X
> so far (okay, with no pressure sensitivity, but anyhow...). The problem
> ist that the pen is slightly too fast. I use GNOME and there I can set
> the speed of the first pointing device but not of a second.
> Doe anyone know if I can set this in the X config? Found nothing on
> appropriate websites such as xfree.org, some distributors, several
> *.sourceforge sites etc. Any Help is much appreciated.
I duno about tablets but in mice
Option "Resolution" "{number}"
works well for me, T-ball at 255 & mouse at 130.. T-ball nice n' fast, mouse
nice n' slow ;)
Ani
Re: Alsa 0.9.0b7 build problem.
On Saturday 20 October 2001 17:06, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > Those are symbols from ncurses, as you would have seen if you had searched > Google for the missing symbols. You need to install libncurses5 and > libncurses5-dev packages. Well I did, and 'twas what I first thought untill: debian:/home/dstorm# apt-get install libncurses5 libncurses5-dev Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Sorry, libncurses5 is already the newest version. Sorry, libncurses5-dev is already the newest version. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 42 not upgraded. debian:/home/dstorm# Ani
get all -dev packages relateing to my install
I can't see any mechanisum to get the all dev packages besided geting them down by hand one at a time. Have I missed something fundmental here? Ani
Re: Debian 'woody' + Kernel 2.4.12 recompile + modules
On Saturday 20 October 2001 12:44, Tim Kane wrote: > I'm new to debian itself, and seem to be having a problem with regard > to modules. > > I've succesfully compiled and booted with kernel 2.4.12 without a > problem. The issue I have is with missing modules. > > I've done a 'make modules' and 'make modules_install' but upon > reboot, the system is unable to locate most of these modules.. I believe > I've followed all the the HOWTO's I could find to the letter, to no > avail. > > Anything I'm failing to do here? > > I am able to succesfully compile and install 2.4.12 + modules on other > distro's without error, so something's up. Are you using modutils >= 2.4.0? I'm sure that Woody is at 2.4.10 Ani
Re: EXT3
On Friday 19 October 2001 21:18, Craig Dickson wrote: > To use ext3, you need a kernel that supports it. Patches for 2.2.19 and > the current 2.4 kernels are available online. Also, Alan Cox's current > 2.4 kernels (the -ac kernels) include ext3 support. For the sake of mild curiosty, what's 'special' about the -ac kernels? Ani
Alsa 0.9.0b7 build problem.
This only happens on my deb machine, do everything as I did on my other boxes: untar a clean source, make & make install drivers, exicute the snddev script, go into alsa-libs make & make instal, go into alsa-oss make & make install, change ld.so.conf to include /usr/local/lib, ldconfig, go into alsa-utils make and this happens: debian:/home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7# make Making all in include make[1]: Entering directory `/home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/include' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/include' Making all in alsactl make[1]: Entering directory `/home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsactl' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -g -O2 -c alsactl.c gcc -g -O2 -o alsactl alsactl.o -lasound -lm -ldl make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsactl' Making all in alsamixer make[1]: Entering directory `/home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -g -O2 -c alsamixer.c gcc -g -O2 -o alsamixer alsamixer.o -lasound -lm -ldl alsamixer.o: In function `mixer_init_dc': /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:298: undefined reference to `init_pair' alsamixer.o: In function `mixer_dc': /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:305: undefined reference to `stdscr' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:307: undefined reference to `stdscr' alsamixer.o: In function `mixer_init_draw_contexts': /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:315: undefined reference to `start_color' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:321: undefined reference to `acs_map' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:328: undefined reference to `acs_map' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:329: undefined reference to `acs_map' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:330: undefined reference to `acs_map' alsamixer.o: In function `mixer_clear': /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:369: undefined reference to `clearok' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:376: undefined reference to `stdscr' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:376: undefined reference to `wmove' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:376: undefined reference to `stdscr' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:376: undefined reference to `waddch' alsamixer.o: In function `mixer_abort': /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:387: undefined reference to `stdscr' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:387: undefined reference to `wrefresh' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:388: undefined reference to `keypad' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:389: undefined reference to `leaveok' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:390: undefined reference to `endwin' alsamixer.o: In function `mixer_update_cbar': /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:667: undefined reference to `stdscr' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:667: undefined reference to `wmove' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:667: undefined reference to `stdscr' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:667: undefined reference to `waddnstr' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:678: undefined reference to `stdscr' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:678: undefined reference to `waddnstr' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:700: undefined reference to `stdscr' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:700: undefined reference to `wmove' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:700: undefined reference to `stdscr' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:700: undefined reference to `waddnstr' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:706: undefined reference to `stdscr' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:706: undefined reference to `wmove' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:706: undefined reference to `stdscr' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:706: undefined reference to `waddnstr' /home/istorm/alsa/0.9.0b7/alsa-utils-0.9.0beta7/alsamixer/alsamixer.c:709: undefined reference to `stdscr' /home/istorm/al
KDE v's Gnome font rendering & how do I get all of gnome Anyways?
I've just finaly got X working only to find KDE, correctly, uses 75dpi font rendering but gnome for some god forsaken reason is using 100dpi, anyone got any ideas how to get gnome & kde on the same page, prefrably the 75dpi page? Next thing, how do I get all of gnome down devel libs n' all with apt-get? Please don't tell me to use dselect cause I want to use apt-get. Have I missed something here?.. TIA Ani
Re: X server working but I can't log in (unstable)
On Sunday 14 October 2001 11:13, Colin Watson wrote: > Are you running unstable? Have you read debian-devel or debian-x > recently? I think so.. and yes I did > http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2001/debian-x-200110/msg4.html 'Twas one of the first things I did. Ani
X server working but I can't log in (unstable)
okay I'm stuck on this one, xdm works great nice log in screen, but when I try to log in I'm just dumped at xdm again, the only error I can find is: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession: /usr/bin/ssh-agent x-window-manager: No such file or directory (I get a similar one if I use startx from the console) but everything exists.. so what's going on, can someone please tell me what's going on and how to fix it. TIA Ani
Best route to testing/unstable?
I've got a 2.2 r3 CD, an inet connection.. what's the quickest and pain-free way to get to testing/unstable? TIA Ani
