Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-02 Thread Matt
Scott,

Can I have a million dollars???

:)



R. Scott Perry wrote:

We now have a new interim release 1.78i8 of Declude Virus Pro at 
http://www.declude.com/interim that will look for invalid .bat, .com, 
.pif, and .scr files, and will treat them as vulnerabilities.  It is 
expected that this will cut down significantly on the impact of future 
viruses in the time before new virus definitions are available.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-02 Thread Donn Bly
Title: RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files






If we are already blocking those extensions, how would that help?


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> Subject: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus

> .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

> 

> 

> We now have a new interim release 1.78i8 of Declude Virus Pro at 

> http://www.declude.com/interim that will look for invalid 

> .bat, .com, .pif, 

> and .scr files, and will treat them as vulnerabilities.  It 

> is expected 

> that this will cut down significantly on the impact of future 

> viruses in 

> the time before new virus definitions are available.

> 

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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-02 Thread Darin Cox
Title: RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files



It blocks them _inside_ of a zip file, as opposed 
to regular attachments.
Darin.
 
 
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If we are already blocking those extensions, how would that 
help? 
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Behalf Of R. Scott Perry > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 
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> Subject: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to 
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> > > 
We now have a new interim release 1.78i8 of Declude Virus Pro at 
> http://www.declude.com/interim that 
will look for invalid > .bat, .com, .pif, 
> and .scr files, and will treat them as 
vulnerabilities.  It > is expected 
> that this will cut down significantly on the impact 
of future > viruses in > 
the time before new virus definitions are available. > > 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-02 Thread R. Scott Perry

If we are already blocking those extensions, how would that help?
If you are already blocking .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files, the new 
interim release won't help.

However, if you are not blocking all those files (most of our customers are 
not), it will help.

It can also be used if you want to allow the good files through.  For 
example, if people have a legitimate need to send .PIF files through, the 
new blocking of bogus .PIF files should prevent any viruses from getting 
through with .PIF extensions.  .bat/.com/.scr have holes that would allow 
viruses through, but it's unlikely that any viruses would take advantage of 
those holes (there are other holes that they can use more easily and gain 
more from).

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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

I switched from i5 to i8 6 hours ago. Until now I can see two empty vir
directories. Before I've had one undeleted vir directory per month. (5000 to
7000 msgs / day)
What is in those files?

Have you checked the Declude Virus log file to see the log file entries for 
those E-mails?

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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Markus Gufler
I switched from i5 to i8 6 hours ago. Until now I can see two empty vir
directories. Before I've had one undeleted vir directory per month. (5000 to
7000 msgs / day)
 
I'm using 
 
BANEZIPEXTS ON
BANEXT (file extensions)
 
Markus
 
 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus
.bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files


Matt,
Thanks, I don't have the old format listed BANEXT EZIP, I pulled it
out and only list the two:
 
BANEZIPEXTS ON
BANZIPEXTS ON
 
BANEXT  (FILE EXT)
 
 Not sure where to go from here, but I had over 200 vir directories
this morning when I checked, thus I know i7 is working.  Thanks,
 
Keith

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Sent: Wed 3/3/2004 2:08 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus
.bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files



Keith,

I'm not sure about your config, but we did detect an executable within a
password protected file (identified by the text of the captured file)
and blocked it according to our config settings.  I did remove the
BANEXT EZIP setting, maybe if you have both the new and the old format,
this will create issues???  Anyway, this is working for me I think:

- Virus.cfg -
BANEZIPEXTSON

BANEXTBAS
BANEXTBAT
BANEXTCMD
BANEXTCOM
BANEXTEXE
BANEXTMSI
BANEXTMSP
BANEXTMST
BANEXTPIF
BANEXTREG
BANEXTSCR
BANEXTSCT
BANEXTVB
BANEXTVBE
BANEXTVBS
BANEXTWSC
BANEXTWSF
BANEXTWSH


- Log File -
03/03/2004 01:12:04 Q77320ad90180418d MIME file: Information.zip
[base64; Length=12424 Checksum=1573366]
03/03/2004 01:12:04 Q77320ad90180418d Banning .ZIP file with EXE extension.
03/03/2004 01:12:07 Q77320ad90180418d Scanned: Banned file extension.
[MIME: 2 12942]
03/03/2004 01:12:07 Q77320ad90180418d From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
03/03/2004 01:12:07 Q77320ad90180418d Subject: Warning about your e-mail
account.


- Source Snippet -
For security purposes the attached file  is  password protected. 
Password is  "24247".




Matt




Keith Johnson wrote:

>Scott,
>I dropped back to 1.78i7 and that eicar zip file test (encrypted
with com file in it), got caught right away and showed up in the log,
however, I am back to the directories not being removed.  Any thoughts?
> 
>I wish I had something to show you in the logs with i8, however,
nothing shows up in the logs, it just passes straight through.
>
>Keith
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: Keith Johnson on behalf of Keith Johnson
>   Sent: Wed 3/3/2004 1:37 AM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Cc:
>   Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block
bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files
>  
>  
>   Scott,
> I don't think 1.78i8 is working correctly.  Since moving
to i8 from i7, I haven't noticed any zip's with viruses in them come through
the log.  I thought it was me, however, I password zipped up an eicar virus
(first testing it plain to ensure it was blocked), then sent it through and
I got it unaltered.  I haven't seen any logs (running MID) that we blocked
any, and I have know we are getting hammered with them.  Do you have any
thoughts?  I may need to fall back to i7 to ensure.  Thanks,
>   
>   Keith
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of R. Scott
Perry
>   Sent: Tue 3/2/2004 6:39 PM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Cc:
>   Subject: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to
block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files
>  
>  
>
>   We now have a new interim release 1.78i8 of Declude Virus
Pro at
>   http://www.declude.com/interim that will look for invalid
.bat, .com, .pif,
>   and .scr files, and will treat them as vulnerabilities.  It
is expected
>   that this will cut down significantly on the impact of
future viruses in
>   the time before new virus definitions are available.
>  
>   -Scott
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>   since 2000.
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott,
 I believe it is only with the new encrypted (password) zip files.  I saw in 
my log (when running i8) that my Scanners were picking up and detecting normal zip's, 
normal pifs, normal scr. etc. of all virus flavors (if there is such thing as normal). 
 I believe I wouldn't see (as long as we have a sig file) any banning of normal zips 
(un-passworded) since the AV scanner would pick it and process it first before 
banning.   
 
 For whatever reason, any password laid virus zip files containing com, pif, 
scr, exe, or others are not getting picked up on our system with i8, however, they are 
with i7.   I hope this helps.  
 
 I just used to test this was the Eicar.com virus zipped up with WinZip with 
an applied password.  Ran it through both to an address on the system and also to 
another Declude protected Imail system, both came straight through.
 
Keith


>I'm not clear on exactly what is happening.  Is the problem *only* with
>.ZIP files, or is it also occurring with other types of files?
>
>-Scott


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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread andyb
I also forwarded the original message to your email addresswith .zip
attached.

Thanks, Andy

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>
> >Matt, that's how I have it setup, and one got through.
>
> What is "one"?  A .ZIP file with a banned encrypted file extension?  A
.ZIP
> file with a banned non-encrypted file extension? A .ZIP file with an
> encrypted file that does not have a banned file extension?  Something
else?
>
>
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

 For whatever reason, any password laid virus zip files 
containing com, pif, scr, exe, or others are not getting picked up on our 
system with i8, however, they are with i7.   I hope this helps.
I assume you are using "BANEXT EZIP" with i7.  Are you using it with i8 as 
well?  Do you have "BANEXT com", "BANEXT pif", etc. in your virus.cfg file?

 I just used to test this was the Eicar.com virus zipped up with 
WinZip with an applied password.  Ran it through both to an address on 
the system and also to another Declude protected Imail system, both came 
straight through.
Do the eicarencodedzip E-mail from the Test Virus Sender at 
http://www.declude.com/tools/ get caught?

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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

I also forwarded the original message to your email addresswith .zip
attached.
No, no, NO.

NEVER send a virus or any file that you think may be malicious to ANY 
E-mail address that is not expecting it.

We have one and only one E-mail address that viruses or suspicious files 
may be sent to (the declude.com "virustrap" address).

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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott,
I am not using BANEXT EZIP with i7 nor i8 per your instructions to remove it 
in place of the new commands:
 
BANEZIPEXTS and BANZIPEXTS ON
 
   I used that encoded file to test it under i8 first and it went straight 
through, that is what tipped me off that something was not right.  I then turned 
around and made my own test from eicar.com and it went through.  I just tested it 
under i7 and it got caught.  I am unsure where to turn as our .vir directories are off 
the charts.  
 
Keith

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>  For whatever reason, any password laid virus zip files
> containing com, pif, scr, exe, or others are not getting picked up on our
> system with i8, however, they are with i7.   I hope this helps.

I assume you are using "BANEXT EZIP" with i7.  Are you using it with i8 as
well?  Do you have "BANEXT com", "BANEXT pif", etc. in your virus.cfg file?

>  I just used to test this was the Eicar.com virus zipped up with
> WinZip with an applied password.  Ran it through both to an address on
> the system and also to another Declude protected Imail system, both came
> straight through.

Do the eicarencodedzip E-mail from the Test Virus Sender at
http://www.declude.com/tools/ get caught?

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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott,
 This is my top portion of my virus.cfg file under i7 and i8.  
 
Keith

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Scott, 
 This is a 'top' sample of what I have listed in my Virus.CFG file:
 
BANEZIPEXTS ON
BANZIPEXTS ON
BANEXT exe
BANEXT ex_
BANEXT pif
BANEXT pi_
BANEXT scr
BANEXT sc_
BANEXT bat
BANEXT ba_
BANEXT com
BANEXT co_
 
 Since we modify extensions at our Firewall, you see the different 
alternate extensions above.  I made no modifications to the above moving to i8.  I 
noticed in my log (tried MID and HIGH) after moving to i8 that I no longer saw any 
Banning extension with (EXT) lines.  Thus, I got concerned.  On average, we get a 
virus every few seconds, and moving back to i7, within a minute, I was catching the 
banned extension inside of zip's again.  When I was on i8, I did a simple test of 
zipping an Eicar .com virus and password protecting it.  I ran it through and it went 
straight to my inbox.  I then dropped back to i7 and ran the same file through and it 
was picked up and logged, however, the directory couldn't be removed.  Thus, this 
morning I had well over 200 plus .vir directories to delete.  Any thoughts?  Thanks 
for the aid.
 
Keith
 
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>I'll second that. Running 1.78i8, with BANZIPEXTS and BANEZIPEXTS ON, 
the
>encoded zip eicar test passes through. The regular zip version of the 
eicar
>test is caught.

Just to clarify, this IS the expected behavior with 1.78i18.

BANZIPEXTS ON and BANEZIPEXTS ON will *only* block .ZIP files *if* they
contain files that have a banned file extension.  So unless you also 
have a
line "BANEXT com" in the virus.cfg file, an encrypted eicar.com file 
won't
get caught.

For others having issues with these new features, please be very clear 
what
is happening.  There are a lot of possibilities here.  You'll need to
specify [1] Whether you are using BANZIPEXTS ON or BANEZIPEXTS ON (or 
the
not-recommended-but-still-useful BANEXT EZIP), [2] Whether you have a
BANEXT line to block the appropriate file (BANEXT com, for example), 
[3]
What type of file you are sending through (.com? .com within a .zip?), 
[4]
If it is a .ZIP file, is the file inside it encrypted?

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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

I am not using BANEXT EZIP with i7 nor i8 per your instructions 
to remove it in place of the new commands:
In that case, i7 will *not* block any encrypted .ZIP files.

BANEZIPEXTS and BANZIPEXTS ON

   I used that encoded file to test it under i8 first and it went 
straight through, that is what tipped me off that something was not right.
What extension does the attachment in your mail client show?  I'm thinking 
that the firewall is mucking things up (if it renames the .ZIP to .ZI or 
.ZI_, for example, Declude Virus won't look at it).

I am unsure where to turn as our .vir directories are off the charts.
Unfortunately, this isn't useful information without knowing which 
version(s) caused them, and preferably the log file entries for them as 
well.  There was an old interim that could cause this, but the latest 
should not.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

03/03/2004 10:19:17 Qa313025b008ed2a1 Invalid COM Vulnerability
03/03/2004 10:19:17 Qa313025b008ed2a1 File(s) are INFECTED [: 
W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 3]

does this mean that the "COM Vulnerability" and the virus was discovered?
Correct.  v1.78i9 fixes this, so that the "Invalid COM Vulnerability" will 
not be used when a virus scanner detects a virus (so users will see 
"W32/Netsky.B" in their notifications, rather than "Invalid COM 
Vulnerability").

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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott,
I don't know that our firewall is the issue due to it working
under i7 and all prior Declude versions.  The Firewall only modifies the
extension, it does not in anyway alter the file.  When you wrote that i7
will not block encrypted zips without the BANEXT EZIP line, it was my
understanding if you have the following:

BANEZIPEXTS ON
BANEXT com

then it will block encrypted zip files containg .com files?  Am
I wrong?  Do I need to have all the following lines in there?

BANEZIPEXTS ON
BANEXT EZIP
BANEXT com

I thought you mentioned that BANEXT EZIP was 'undesireable' and
using the first example above was ideal? 

Version i7 is causing the .vir directories and the lines in the
log that indicate Declude could not remove the .vir directory.  Inside
those directories are files called 0.zi and 1.zi   It was my
understanding that i8 fixed this issue with the .vir directory and also
added new features for attacking .bat, .scr. Etc.  

I am currently on i7, due to i8 not catching encrypted .zip
files with extensions in my BANEXT listing.  This was tested from the
encoded zip file as well as an eicar.com file zipped and password
protected.  



Keith

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> I am not using BANEXT EZIP with i7 nor i8 per your 
> instructions to remove it in place of the new commands:

In that case, i7 will *not* block any encrypted .ZIP files.

>BANEZIPEXTS and BANZIPEXTS ON
>
>I used that encoded file to test it under i8 first and it went 
> straight through, that is what tipped me off that something was not
right.

What extension does the attachment in your mail client show?  I'm
thinking that the firewall is mucking things up (if it renames the .ZIP
to .ZI or .ZI_, for example, Declude Virus won't look at it).

>I am unsure where to turn as our .vir directories are off the charts.

Unfortunately, this isn't useful information without knowing which
version(s) caused them, and preferably the log file entries for them as
well.  There was an old interim that could cause this, but the latest
should not.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

I don't know that our firewall is the issue due to it working
under i7 and all prior Declude versions.
The problem is that it CANNOT be working with previous versions.  The 
BANZIPEXTS/BANEZIPEXTS options were just added to i8; BANEXT EZIP was just 
added to i7.

You're going to need to detail EXACTLY what is happening (see my previous 
post for the minimum 4 pieces of information that are needed along with the 
version you are using AT THE TIME THE PROBLEM OCCURS).  Time and list 
bandwidth is precious today.  :)

The Firewall only modifies the extension, it does not in anyway alter the 
file.
Correct.  If it changes ".ZIP" to ".ZI", it is no longer a .ZIP file, and 
the new features will not apply to the file.  Problem solved.

When you wrote that i7
will not block encrypted zips without the BANEXT EZIP line, it was my
understanding if you have the following:
BANEZIPEXTS ON
BANEXT com
then it will block encrypted zip files containg .com files?
No.  That only works with 1.78i8 and higher.

Version i7 is causing ...
That's not relevant now; that is an old interim release, is a known issue, 
and the problem was fixed in v8.

Inside those directories are files called 0.zi and 1.zi
Then it does sound like the firewall is altering the attachments.  I'll 
look into why this may be happening, if it happens with the latest interim, 
as time allows.

I am currently on i7, due to i8 not catching encrypted .zip
files with extensions in my BANEXT listing.
You'll have to decide whether you want to use i7 as-is, or use the latest 
interim in which case we can troubleshoot and fix problems.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott,
I apologize for the flood of emails to you as I know your time
is precious.  However, I pulled the following that BANZIPEXTS and
BANEZIPEXTS was added in i7:

>FYI, we now have a new interim release 1.78i7 (at
http://www.declude.com/interim ) that will allow you to ban file 
>extensions within .ZIP files.

>To do this, you can add either the line "BANZIPEXTS ON" to the
\IMail\Declude\virus.cfg file (to ban file extensions 
>within .ZIP files, for files that are not encrypted) and/or
"BANEZIPEXTS ON" (to ban file extensions within .ZIP files, 
>for files that are encrypted).  They will use the same file extensions
as the BANEXT option. 

I am unsure on the .zip to .zi_ as I have no issues with Declude
with versions 1.78i7 and prior.  It was only with i8 that Declude was
not seeing the zip with hiding file extensions any longer.  I will move
forward to the latest interim and do the testing you require.

Keith

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> I don't know that our firewall is the issue due to it working 
>under i7 and all prior Declude versions.

The problem is that it CANNOT be working with previous versions.  The
BANZIPEXTS/BANEZIPEXTS options were just added to i8; BANEXT EZIP was
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
could you please post the link here

just got connected to the list again and can't find anything in the archieve
 

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> Administrator
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> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to 
> block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files
> 
> on 3/3/04 11:30 AM, Matt wrote:
> 
> > Since this is working in some cases and not in others, 
> maybe there is a
> > syntax bug.
> 
> I think everyone running i7 and i8 should download version i9 
> at the interim
> link. I had problems with i8 and they seemed to get fixed 
> after installing
> i9.
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Matt,
I had a space in mine, not a tab.  For what it is worth.

Keith 

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bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

Here's a thought.

Since this is working in some cases and not in others, maybe there is a
syntax bug.

I have the following:

BANEZIPEXTSON
BANEXTEXE
BANEXTCOM
etc.

What if someone had spaces, multiple spaces or multiple tabs?  How about
a space or tab following one of the lines?  Maybe Declude isn't parsing
this correctly from the config file???

I think it's worth a quick look.

Matt






R. Scott Perry wrote:

>
>> I apologize for the flood of emails to you as I know your 
>> time is precious.  However, I pulled the following that BANZIPEXTS 
>> and BANEZIPEXTS was added in i7:
>
>
> Sorry, my mistake.
>
>> I am unsure on the .zip to .zi_ as I have no issues with 
>> Declude with versions 1.78i7 and prior.  It was only with i8 that 
>> Declude was not seeing the zip with hiding file extensions any
longer.
>
>
> Unfortunately, I'm not sure what you are referring to regarding the 
> hiding file extensions.
>
> Again, it is vital that people be very clear in their posts.  I'm very

> close to turning this into a moderated list until this all blows over.
>
> What we are looking for is to get as much information about bugs in 
> the new interim as quickly as possible on this list, while at the same

> time minimizing the amount of posts to this list.
>
>
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Matt,
Is yours working with the TAB, I'll try anything?

Keith 

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Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block
bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

Here's a thought.

Since this is working in some cases and not in others, maybe there is a
syntax bug.

I have the following:

BANEZIPEXTSON
BANEXTEXE
BANEXTCOM
etc.

What if someone had spaces, multiple spaces or multiple tabs?  How about
a space or tab following one of the lines?  Maybe Declude isn't parsing
this correctly from the config file???

I think it's worth a quick look.

Matt






R. Scott Perry wrote:

>
>> I apologize for the flood of emails to you as I know your 
>> time is precious.  However, I pulled the following that BANZIPEXTS 
>> and BANEZIPEXTS was added in i7:
>
>
> Sorry, my mistake.
>
>> I am unsure on the .zip to .zi_ as I have no issues with 
>> Declude with versions 1.78i7 and prior.  It was only with i8 that 
>> Declude was not seeing the zip with hiding file extensions any
longer.
>
>
> Unfortunately, I'm not sure what you are referring to regarding the 
> hiding file extensions.
>
> Again, it is vital that people be very clear in their posts.  I'm very

> close to turning this into a moderated list until this all blows over.
>
> What we are looking for is to get as much information about bugs in 
> the new interim as quickly as possible on this list, while at the same

> time minimizing the amount of posts to this list.
>
>
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Rodney Bertsch
>>Again, it is vital that people be very clear in their posts.  I'm very
>>close to turning this into a moderated list until this all blows over.


Scott, I can certainly sympathize with what you are going through there.
You do an OUTSTANDING job for us and I rank Declude as #1 in my book in all
areas.

I for one would GLADLY want you to turn this into a moderated list.  My
inbox is flooded as it is by virus notifications, add to the immense amount
of posts on the declude list and it's all I can do to just wade through my
e-mail.  I subscribe to the declude list to keep up on all the latest virus
info, not to read a hundred posts asking the same question over and over
again.

PLEASE go to a moderated list!

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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Matt
Here's a thought.

Since this is working in some cases and not in others, maybe there is a 
syntax bug.

I have the following:

BANEZIPEXTSON
BANEXTEXE
BANEXTCOM
etc.
What if someone had spaces, multiple spaces or multiple tabs?  How about 
a space or tab following one of the lines?  Maybe Declude isn't parsing 
this correctly from the config file???

I think it's worth a quick look.

Matt





R. Scott Perry wrote:


I apologize for the flood of emails to you as I know your time
is precious.  However, I pulled the following that BANZIPEXTS and
BANEZIPEXTS was added in i7:


Sorry, my mistake.

I am unsure on the .zip to .zi_ as I have no issues with Declude
with versions 1.78i7 and prior.  It was only with i8 that Declude was
not seeing the zip with hiding file extensions any longer.


Unfortunately, I'm not sure what you are referring to regarding the 
hiding file extensions.

Again, it is vital that people be very clear in their posts.  I'm very 
close to turning this into a moderated list until this all blows over.

What we are looking for is to get as much information about bugs in 
the new interim as quickly as possible on this list, while at the same 
time minimizing the amount of posts to this list.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread andyb
thanks,

Andy
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> Virustrap at the declude.com domain - Scott wisely doesn't post actual
> "@" addresses on the list.  The list archive is probably scanned for
> addresses just as our websites are.
>
> John
>
> -Original Message-
>
> OK...
>
> so I got a No, no, NO
>
> but what is the address!!!???
>
>
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> > -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

Is yours working with the TAB, I'll try anything?
FYI, tabs/spaces should not affect anything (they are only important in 
.eml files, where only one space/tab per line is allowed in the commands in 
the headers).

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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread andyb
That is just wrong...the Internet is all about sharing information.

Andy

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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread System Administrator
on 3/3/04 12:13 PM, ISPhuset Nordic AS wrote:

> could you please post the link here

http://www.declude.com/interim/

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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

But...I'm curious as to why this new Vulnerability feature is a PRO only
one. If this is truly a feature that "will cut down significantly on the
impact of future viruses in the time before new virus definitions are
available" that sounds like a feature that should be implemented for ALL
Declude users.
The reason is that this is protection that goes above and beyond what is 
normally expected of a virus scanner.  Given that the Pro version usually 
costs a lot less than most other mailserver AV programs, we feel that it is 
reasonable to limit such features to the Pro version.

However, we do continue to make sure that any basic functionality that is 
required of a mailserver virus scanner be available in all versions (so no 
virus that the AV software can detect should get through even if you are 
using the Lite version).

We are a local government agency that has need of sending/receiving
encrypted zip files (due to security reasons) but I have to block all of
them due to the only option available to us standard version users.
BANEXT EZIP. Along with the BANZIPEXTS and BANEZIPEXTS being Pro only,
you are tying the hand of us smaller organizations that do not have the
means to spend the extra $400 for the pro version.
In this case, we have the "BANEXT EZIP" option available to allow blocking 
of the viruses that AV programs won't be able to detect.

What I would recommend in your case is a new policy that encrypted .ZIP 
files must use an extension other than .ZIP (until viruses start asking 
their victims to rename the files first!).  That way, you will be protected 
against new threats and meet your financial requirements.

Are you trying to add more features to the Pro version to sweeten the
deal or is this just an Interim version issue that will eventually make
it into the standard version?
The BANEXT EZIP will remain in all versions; the BANZIPEXTS/BANEZIPEXTS 
will likely stay in the Pro version (but a final decision has not yet been 
made).

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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Matt
Keith Johnson wrote:

Matt,
	Is yours working with the TAB, I'll try anything?
 

Yes, mine is working.

It's a shot in the dark, but here's my Virus.cfg attached as a text file 
with the only modification being that my CODE was removed.  You will 
definitely want to customize the settings nearer the top of the file for 
logging and scanners.  It's best to save the attachment an then edit 
from that instead of copy and paste from this E-mail if the attachment 
displays.

Matt

--
=
MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro.
http://www.mailpure.com/software/
=
#
# Declude Virus configuration file
#

CODE###

# The "" in the LOGFILE option automatically gets replaced with the month/date

LOGFILE E:\spool\virus\virus.log
LOGLEVELHIGH
CONSOLE OFF

#
# SCANFILE is the location of the command-line virus scanner. Note that it 
# must include the full path.  VIRUSCODE is the code that scanner returns if
# it finds a virus.
#

SCANFILE1   C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOBOOT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE 
/PACKED /DUMB /REPORT=report.txt
VIRUSCODE1  3
VIRUSCODE1  6
REPORT1 Infection:

SCANFILE2   C:\Progra~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avg.exe /NOMEM /NOSELF /ARC /REPORT=report.txt
VIRUSCODE2  5
VIRUSCODE2  6
REPORT2 identified

#SCANFILE2  C:\Progra~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgscan.exe /NOMEM /NOBOOT /NOHIMEM /NOEXPORT 
/NOSELF /ARC /RT /ARCW /RTW /MACROW /REPORT=report.txt
#VIRUSCODE2 5
#VIRUSCODE2 6
#REPORT2identified


# VIRDIR is the directory to move E-mails with viruses; by default,
# it is set to 'virus' (\IMail\spool\virus).

VIRDIR  E:\spool\virus\hold

# The MAXATONCE option limits the number of AV processes.  For example,
# MAXATONCE 1 will only allow 1 AV process to run at once (IE for licensing
# purposes).  A value of 0 (or commenting it out) allows unlimited processes
# to run at the same time.

MAXATONCE   50

#
# The following options allow you to limit scanning to only incoming or outgoing
# E-mail.
#

INCOMINGON
OUTGOINGON

#
# The ONACCESS option should be set to OFF unless you have an on-access virus scanner
# that will be deleting attachments with viruses.  It is recommended NOT to have an
# on-access scanner interfering, and to leave this at OFF.
#

ONACCESSOFF

#
# The SCANNERTIMEOUT option lets you choose the number of seconds that Declude will
# wait for the virus scanner to finish.  The minimum value is 10 seconds.  Most
# scanners will not need to take that long.  This option is mainly to prevent
# defective scanners (that never finish) from interfering with your outgoing E-mail.
# Raising this will NOT help if your virus scanner always times out.
#

SCANNERTIMEOUT  60

#
# The SKIPEXT option will let you skip scanning of certain file extensions.  For
# example, a GIF file can't contain a virus, so there is no need to scan it.
#

SKIPEXT GIF
SKIPEXT TXT
SKIPEXT JPG
SKIPEXT MPG
SKIPEXT PNG

#
# The BANEXT option will let you ban file extensions.  E-mails containing attachments
# with these file extensions will be quarantined, and if you have a BANnotify.EML file,
# it will be sent out.  This works in the Standard and Pro versions.
#

BANEZIPEXTS ON

BANEXT  BAS
BANEXT  BAT
BANEXT  CMD
BANEXT  COM
BANEXT  CPL
BANEXT  EXE
BANEXT  HTA
BANEXT  JS
BANEXT  MSI
BANEXT  MSP
BANEXT  MST
BANEXT  PIF
BANEXT  REG
BANEXT  SCR
BANEXT  SCT
BANEXT  VB
BANEXT  VBE
BANEXT  VBS
BANEXT  WS
BANEXT  WSC
BANEXT  WSF
BANEXT  WSH


#
# Declude Virus Pro can pre-scan HTML files.  If no dangerous code is detected, the 
# virus scanner will not get called.  This can significantly cut down on CPU usage.
#

PRESCAN ON

#
# Declude Virus can block treat files using CLSID extensions as viruses.  This type of 
# extension will force a certain type of program to be run, while making the file 
appear
# to be a .TXT or other safe file.  There is no known legitimate reason to send this
# type of file through E-mail.  BANPARTIAL ON bans the Partial Vulnerability.
#

BANCLSIDON
BANPARTIAL  ON

#
# The FOOTER lines will add a footer to the bottom of E-mails that are scanned.  This 
may
# not be visible if you send HTML or attachments with the E-mail.
#

#FOOTER ---
#FOOTER [This E-mail was scanned and tested clean for viruses]

#
# The DELETEVIRUSES option, when set to ON, will delete viruses, rather than 
quarantine them.
# It is recommended to leave this at OFF.
#

DELETEVIRUSES   OFF

#
# The DELIVERERRORS option, when set to ON, will treat errors from the virus scanner 
as if no
# virus was found.  When set to ON, this could cause viruses to 

Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Don Hickey
I tried this with 1,2,3 spaces and tabs between the BANZIPEXTS, BANZIPEXTS
and the ON.

Then I send myself a compress .pif file both pw protected and not pw
proteced and every single one was caught (eight total) (as banned extensions
ZIP-PIF).

All my BANEXT lines have one space between it and the actual extension
name...example-

BANEXTEXE

#Regular Zip File
BANZIPEXTS   ON
#Password Protected Zip File
BANEZIPEXTS   ON

Don


- Original Message - 
From: "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus
.bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files


> Here's a thought.
>
> Since this is working in some cases and not in others, maybe there is a
> syntax bug.
>
> I have the following:
>
> BANEZIPEXTSON
> BANEXTEXE
> BANEXTCOM
> etc.
>
> What if someone had spaces, multiple spaces or multiple tabs?  How about
> a space or tab following one of the lines?  Maybe Declude isn't parsing
> this correctly from the config file???
>
> I think it's worth a quick look.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
> R. Scott Perry wrote:
>
> >
> >> I apologize for the flood of emails to you as I know your time
> >> is precious.  However, I pulled the following that BANZIPEXTS and
> >> BANEZIPEXTS was added in i7:
> >
> >
> > Sorry, my mistake.
> >
> >> I am unsure on the .zip to .zi_ as I have no issues with
Declude
> >> with versions 1.78i7 and prior.  It was only with i8 that Declude was
> >> not seeing the zip with hiding file extensions any longer.
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, I'm not sure what you are referring to regarding the
> > hiding file extensions.
> >
> > Again, it is vital that people be very clear in their posts.  I'm very
> > close to turning this into a moderated list until this all blows over.
> >
> > What we are looking for is to get as much information about bugs in
> > the new interim as quickly as possible on this list, while at the same
> > time minimizing the amount of posts to this list.
> >
> >
> >-Scott
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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

I tried this with 1,2,3 spaces and tabs between the BANZIPEXTS, BANZIPEXTS
and the ON.
Just a reminder for people who didn't see it:  spaces/tabs are irrelevant 
here (they are only relevant in .eml files).

Then I send myself a compress .pif file both pw protected and not pw
proteced and every single one was caught (eight total) (as banned extensions
ZIP-PIF).
Great.

   -Scott
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