date:20110207

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:22 PM, drew  wrote:

> On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 20:08 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
> > On 02/07/2011 08:05 PM, drew wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 19:50 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
> > >> On 02/07/2011 04:59 PM, drew wrote:
> > >>> On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 15:52 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Do you still want the large banner?
> > >>
> > >> If so, we'll need an image that has the following dimensions
> > >> 71.80" x 30.20"
> > >> 1824mm x 767mm
> > >> 5385 x 2265 pixels
> > >
> > > YES (ah somehow I thought you where going with 5' not 6.)
> >
> > VistaPrint only does fixed sizes. You were right: originally it was 5'.
> > However, that's not possible with VistaPrint.
> >
> > > - give me a few minutes.
> >
> > No problem. I have plenty to do this evening.
> >
> > > I could produce one with the contemporary logo, but looking at the
> > > photos from FOSDEM it does not look like the banner uses it, it looks
> > > like it uses the one in the file you have.
> >
> > Good. I'm glad you're tracking that.
>
> http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_72inx30in.pdf
>
> same deal, the svg is along side just change the descriptor.
>

The image is just a bit too wide. The edge of the "e" in "office" and the
right edge of the "n" in "foundation" are in the trim margin. That means
they'll be cut during the trimming process.

I'm guessing that the image is 3mm too wide. Can you adjust it?

I'm going to check the small banner now.

Cheers,.
jec

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Re: Banner ( was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line )

On 02/07/2011 08:22 PM, drew wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 20:08 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
>> On 02/07/2011 08:05 PM, drew wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 19:50 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
 On 02/07/2011 04:59 PM, drew wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 15:52 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:

 Do you still want the large banner?

 If so, we'll need an image that has the following dimensions
 71.80" x 30.20"
 1824mm x 767mm
 5385 x 2265 pixels
>>>
>>> YES (ah somehow I thought you where going with 5' not 6.)
>>
>> VistaPrint only does fixed sizes. You were right: originally it was 5'.
>> However, that's not possible with VistaPrint.
>>
>>> - give me a few minutes.
>>
>> No problem. I have plenty to do this evening.
>>
>>> I could produce one with the contemporary logo, but looking at the
>>> photos from FOSDEM it does not look like the banner uses it, it looks
>>> like it uses the one in the file you have.
>>
>> Good. I'm glad you're tracking that.
> 
> http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_72inx30in.pdf
> 
> same deal, the svg is along side just change the descriptor.

Looks good. I'll get the banners ordered.

Thanks,
jec

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Re: Banner ( was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line )

On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 20:08 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
> On 02/07/2011 08:05 PM, drew wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 19:50 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
> >> On 02/07/2011 04:59 PM, drew wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 15:52 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
> >>
> >> Do you still want the large banner?
> >>
> >> If so, we'll need an image that has the following dimensions
> >> 71.80" x 30.20"
> >> 1824mm x 767mm
> >> 5385 x 2265 pixels
> > 
> > YES (ah somehow I thought you where going with 5' not 6.)
> 
> VistaPrint only does fixed sizes. You were right: originally it was 5'.
> However, that's not possible with VistaPrint.
> 
> > - give me a few minutes.
> 
> No problem. I have plenty to do this evening.
> 
> > I could produce one with the contemporary logo, but looking at the
> > photos from FOSDEM it does not look like the banner uses it, it looks
> > like it uses the one in the file you have.
> 
> Good. I'm glad you're tracking that.

http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_72inx30in.pdf

same deal, the svg is along side just change the descriptor.




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Re: Banner ( was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line )

On 02/07/2011 08:05 PM, drew wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 19:50 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
>> On 02/07/2011 04:59 PM, drew wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 15:52 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
 On 02/07/2011 03:48 PM, Christoph Noack wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> yes, all the material is available. Just being curious, what do you
> intend to do?

 Thanks, Christoph

 Here's the relevant thread:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/design@libreoffice.org/msg00747.html

>>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> Here is a pdf file that should work for the 5' x 2.5' banner
>>>
>>> http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_60inx30in.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> //drew
>>
>> HI Drew:
>>
>> Do you still want the large banner?
>>
>> If so, we'll need an image that has the following dimensions
>> 71.80" x 30.20"
>> 1824mm x 767mm
>> 5385 x 2265 pixels
> 
> YES (ah somehow I thought you where going with 5' not 6.)

VistaPrint only does fixed sizes. You were right: originally it was 5'.
However, that's not possible with VistaPrint.

> - give me a few minutes.

No problem. I have plenty to do this evening.

> I could produce one with the contemporary logo, but looking at the
> photos from FOSDEM it does not look like the banner uses it, it looks
> like it uses the one in the file you have.

Good. I'm glad you're tracking that.

> Also I see they went much closer to edges then I did, I'll do that also,
> which will raise the height, which is a good thing.

Agreed.

> BRB

Standing by.

How do we make sure that Bernhard is in the loop?

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Banner ( was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line )

On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 19:50 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
> On 02/07/2011 04:59 PM, drew wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 15:52 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
> >> On 02/07/2011 03:48 PM, Christoph Noack wrote:
> >>> Hi Jeff,
> >>>
> >>> yes, all the material is available. Just being curious, what do you
> >>> intend to do?
> >>
> >> Thanks, Christoph
> >>
> >> Here's the relevant thread:
> >>
> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/design@libreoffice.org/msg00747.html
> >>
> > 
> > Hi Jeff,
> > 
> > Here is a pdf file that should work for the 5' x 2.5' banner
> > 
> > http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_60inx30in.pdf
> > 
> > 
> > //drew
> 
> HI Drew:
> 
> Do you still want the large banner?
> 
> If so, we'll need an image that has the following dimensions
> 71.80" x 30.20"
> 1824mm x 767mm
> 5385 x 2265 pixels

YES (ah somehow I thought you where going with 5' not 6.)

- give me a few minutes.

I could produce one with the contemporary logo, but looking at the
photos from FOSDEM it does not look like the banner uses it, it looks
like it uses the one in the file you have.

Also I see they went much closer to edges then I did, I'll do that also,
which will raise the height, which is a good thing.

BRB

> 
> The image you sent will work for the small banner. It's free, and has
> the following dimensions:
> 35.70" x 20.20"
> 907mm x 513mm
> 2678 x 1515 pixels
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line

On 02/07/2011 04:59 PM, drew wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 15:52 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
>> On 02/07/2011 03:48 PM, Christoph Noack wrote:
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> yes, all the material is available. Just being curious, what do you
>>> intend to do?
>>
>> Thanks, Christoph
>>
>> Here's the relevant thread:
>>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/design@libreoffice.org/msg00747.html
>>
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> Here is a pdf file that should work for the 5' x 2.5' banner
> 
> http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_60inx30in.pdf
> 
> 
> //drew

HI Drew:

Do you still want the large banner?

If so, we'll need an image that has the following dimensions
71.80" x 30.20"
1824mm x 767mm
5385 x 2265 pixels

The image you sent will work for the small banner. It's free, and has
the following dimensions:
35.70" x 20.20"
907mm x 513mm
2678 x 1515 pixels




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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line

On 02/07/2011 05:24 PM, drew wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> Here is a pdf file that should work for the 5' x 2.5' banner
>>>
>>> http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_60inx30in.pdf
>>>
>>
>> and here is 35 x 20
>>
>> http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_35inx20in.pdf
>>
>> Both files are set for 75 dpi
>>
> 
> Sorry for one more mail on this:
> 
> - you can find the svg files in the same location just change the file
> descriptor. 
> 
> Just export to pdf from inkscape if you need to make a change.
> 
> [I did make one last change to each so check that you clear you cache
> before grabbing the pdf files]
> 
> Drew

OK I'll look at them now.

Bernhard:

 are you following this thread?

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo request for vinyl banner

On 02/07/2011 04:08 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> Hi Jeff, *
> 
> Jeff Chimene schrieb:
>> Hi Bernard, Drew:
>>
>> Thanks so much for taking the time to answer my questions. I /really/
>> appreciate your help! I've tried to answer your questions inline below.
>> I still have a few of my own.
>>
>> On 02/06/2011 03:57 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
>>> Hi Jeff, *
>>>
>>> Jeff Chimene schrieb:
 Hi Folks:

 I'm hoping someone can help w/ this request. I'd like to get a 5' wide
 banner for the SCALE event in California at the end of this month.

 Is there an official logo that's at least 600dpi resolution?
>>>
>>> Please have a look at the  branding wiki page:
>>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Resources
>>
>> Got it. Thanks
> 
> So you found the links there in the table? They are different from the
> link you give here
>>
>> Drew: I'm thinking this image:
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice-Initial-Artwork-Colors_Guidelines_Valid1.png
>>
>>
> This is *not* the official logo file, it just describes how the logo
> should be used.

It was simply a starting point, not the final banner contents. I spoke
too informally for the list.

> The links in the table at
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Resources contain
> the logo in different versions. Like the one I mentioned here:
>>>
>>> The largest exported PNG version is 2000px width
> 
> It's direct link in the contemporary version is:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_Initial-Artwork-Logo_ColorLogoContemporary_2000px.png

Thanks. I've been looking at that image.

>>> but you can use Inkscape with the source file linked
>>> there to export larger versions too.
>>
>> Hi Bernard:
>>
>> Is that the image here?
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice-Initial-Artwork-Colors_Guidelines_Valid1.png
>>
>>
>> If not, where do I find it?
> See above.
> 
> I can scale it via Gimp.
> 
> Please *never* upscale a bitmap to get a larger image (except you want
> to reach the pixelized view as a matter of artistic element).

Right. I was going upscale the vector version. My apologies for the
confusion. I realize I have to use Inkscape (upscale vector, not bitmap).

> If you can't use the vector source from the table, I'll create a bitmap
> in the right dimensions for you.

Well, I know far less about Inkscape than Gimp. However, I really don't
want to make additional work for you.

>> The printer is named "VistaPrint"
> 
> Know it - used it for my private business cards.
>>
>> It looks like the best resolution I can get with them is 75 dpi (see
>> below)
> 
> So you want a logo in 5' width and 75 dpi resolution?
> 
> The file would be 5 (foot) x 12 (inch to foot) x 75 (DPI) = 4500 px  in
> width and 1436 px in height.
> 
> The resulting banner would be 5' x 1.596' (1,52m x 0,484m)
> 
> I don't know if you want to print the "Basic" or "Contemporary" logo.

Contemporary. Is that what Cor used?

> While the basic version consists of only two colors (Green and Black),
> the contemporary uses different gradients in the green tone and grey.
> 
> I don't know if there will be a difference in the price - the gradient
> between two different green tones will lead to a multitude of colors, so
> it might be more expensive...

The VistaPrint pricing does not seem to be color sensitive.

>>> Especially with posters and banners please remember to include the
>>> necessary white space area around the logo in your design.
>>
>> Right (see below re: full bleed)
>>
 I see that
 there's an interesting design for a vertical banner. Is that design
 ready yet?
>>>
>>> Which design do you talk about?
>>> Can you link it here?
>>
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Banner_Rough_Ideas_fromcornouws.png
>>
> 
> There are different ideas on the file.
> 
> Cor used no 3 on FOSDEM - see below.

>From Cor's response, I found the zip file and the logo. I don't know how
folks downstream (i.e. subsequent U.S. shows) would react to a vertical
logo, but I think it's cool.

>>> What size do you need?
>>
>> Full Bleed Size (starting document size)
>> 71.80" x 30.20"
>> 1824mm x 767mm
>> 5385 x 2265 pixels
> 
> That's not the vertical banner - do you speak of the logo banner again?

Yes. That's the size from VistaPrint's specifications. The vertical
banner would be rotated to fit. As far as I can tell, VistaPrint
recommends an image sized to the above dimensions, full bleed. Without
scaling the current images, I agree, there will be too much whitespace
around the logo.

Here's my dilemma:

1. You've already done the work to upscale the vertical image. I'd like
to reuse that work. But, I don't know how other people would react to a
vertical orientation.

2. The contemporary logo would have to be upscaled to get to 5385 x 2265
pixels. I don't know how the banner will be used at future tradeshows,
so I don't want to pre-position the image to handle the whitespace.

I guess the best answer

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line

> > 
> > Hi Jeff,
> > 
> > Here is a pdf file that should work for the 5' x 2.5' banner
> > 
> > http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_60inx30in.pdf
> > 
> 
> and here is 35 x 20
> 
> http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_35inx20in.pdf
> 
> Both files are set for 75 dpi
> 

Sorry for one more mail on this:

- you can find the svg files in the same location just change the file
descriptor. 

Just export to pdf from inkscape if you need to make a change.

[I did make one last change to each so check that you clear you cache
before grabbing the pdf files]

Drew





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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line

On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 18:59 -0500, drew wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 15:52 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
> > On 02/07/2011 03:48 PM, Christoph Noack wrote:
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > > 
> > > yes, all the material is available. Just being curious, what do you
> > > intend to do?
> > 
> > Thanks, Christoph
> > 
> > Here's the relevant thread:
> > 
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/design@libreoffice.org/msg00747.html
> > 
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> Here is a pdf file that should work for the 5' x 2.5' banner
> 
> http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_60inx30in.pdf
> 

and here is 35 x 20

http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_35inx20in.pdf

Both files are set for 75 dpi

Thanks


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line

On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 15:52 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
> On 02/07/2011 03:48 PM, Christoph Noack wrote:
> > Hi Jeff,
> > 
> > yes, all the material is available. Just being curious, what do you
> > intend to do?
> 
> Thanks, Christoph
> 
> Here's the relevant thread:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/design@libreoffice.org/msg00747.html
> 

Hi Jeff,

Here is a pdf file that should work for the 5' x 2.5' banner

http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_60inx30in.pdf


//drew






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Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo request for vinyl banner

2011-02-07 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Jeff, *

Jeff Chimene schrieb:

Hi Bernard, Drew:

Thanks so much for taking the time to answer my questions. I /really/
appreciate your help! I've tried to answer your questions inline below.
I still have a few of my own.

On 02/06/2011 03:57 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:

Hi Jeff, *

Jeff Chimene schrieb:

Hi Folks:

I'm hoping someone can help w/ this request. I'd like to get a 5' wide
banner for the SCALE event in California at the end of this month.

Is there an official logo that's at least 600dpi resolution?

Please have a look at the branding wiki page:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Resources

Got it. Thanks

So you found the links there in the table? They are different from the
link you give here

Drew: I'm thinking this image:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice-Initial-Artwork-Colors_Guidelines_Valid1.png

This is *not* the official logo file, it just describes how the logo
should be used.

The links in the table at
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Resources contain
the logo in different versions. Like the one I mentioned here:

The largest exported PNG version is 2000px width

It's direct link in the contemporary version is:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_Initial-Artwork-Logo_ColorLogoContemporary_2000px.png

but you can use Inkscape with the source file linked
there to export larger versions too.

Hi Bernard:

Is that the image here?
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice-Initial-Artwork-Colors_Guidelines_Valid1.png

If not, where do I find it?

See above.

I can scale it via Gimp.

Please *never* upscale a bitmap to get a larger image (except you want
to reach the pixelized view as a matter of artistic element).

If you can't use the vector source from the table, I'll create a bitmap
in the right dimensions for you.

The printer is named "VistaPrint"

Know it - used it for my private business cards.

It looks like the best resolution I can get with them is 75 dpi (see below)

So you want a logo in 5' width and 75 dpi resolution?

The file would be 5 (foot) x 12 (inch to foot) x 75 (DPI) = 4500 px in
width and 1436 px in height.

The resulting banner would be 5' x 1.596' (1,52m x 0,484m)

I don't know if you want to print the "Basic" or "Contemporary" logo.

While the basic version consists of only two colors (Green and Black),
the contemporary uses different gradients in the green tone and grey.

I don't know if there will be a difference in the price - the gradient
between two different green tones will lead to a multitude of colors, so
it might be more expensive...

Especially with posters and banners please remember to include the
necessary white space area around the logo in your design.

Right (see below re: full bleed)

I see that
there's an interesting design for a vertical banner. Is that design
ready yet?

Which design do you talk about?
Can you link it here?

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Banner_Rough_Ideas_fromcornouws.png

There are different ideas on the file.

Cor used no 3 on FOSDEM - see below.

What size do you need?

Full Bleed Size (starting document size)
71.80" x 30.20"
1824mm x 767mm
5385 x 2265 pixels

That's not the vertical banner - do you speak of the logo banner again?

The logo is not as high as your banner, so it might be positioned in the
middle (if the banner will hang in the air or at a wall) or at the top
(if the banner should be pinned to the tables in the booth).

yield:
Document Trim Size (final size after being cut)
71.53" x 30.00"
1817mm x 762mm
5365 x 2250 pixels

I realize the DPI is not what I spoke to originally. This is actually
fewer dpi (75) I was under the impression that VistaPrint could produce
a high-res banner. Apparently that's not the case. I do have a printer
in Tucson that can do hi res, but it will be about 3 or 4 times the
VistaPrint cost.

I'd like some feedback from you folks: do you want a 75 dpi banner, or
should we go for higher resolution (but more $) Personally, I think the
"LibreOffice-Initial-Artwork-Colors_Guidelines_Valid1.png" (if that's
the logo) will be OK at 75 dpi: graphic edges are straight, sans-serif
font. At a distance (> 6 feet), I think we can get by for a trade show.

I think 75 dpi per color should be enough, but I'm not that experienced
in creating vinyl banners.

If we buy by 10-Feb, we get a free banner which has the following
dimensions:

Full Bleed Size (starting document size)
35.70" x 20.20"
907mm x 513mm
2678 x 1515 pixels

So you need this size too.

Please avoid scaling from one to another size (and if you need to:
downscaling to the smaller size is less problematic than upscaling).

It would be best, if you would extract .png bitmap files from the source
with Inkscape.

Document Trim Size (final size after being cut)
35.50" x 20.00"
902mm x 508mm
2662 x 1500 pixels

Again, 75 dpi, but up close (< 3 ft) it should be OK.

Cor used a enlarged versi

[libreoffice-design] FOSDEM 2011 and the Design Team

Hi all,

just a short message from the FOSDEM 2011 and our activities there - and
since some of them are Design Team related, let's have a look at
that ...

Blog Day 1:
http://luxate.blogspot.com/2011/02/fosdem-2011-first-bits-and-pieces.html

Blog Day 2:
http://luxate.blogspot.com/2011/02/fosdem-2011-summary.html

Design Team Presentations Page:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Presentations

Note: It is recommended that you view the ODP in the presentation mode
in Impress.

Information about LibreOffice talks:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2011

You may also consider to scan the TDF Planet - for example, Italo also
shared his slides, and Cor summarized his perceptions.

Enjoy! And, it would be great to hear some thoughts ... oh, and thanks
to Bernhard for reviewing the presentation in advance!

Regards,
Christoph


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line

On 02/07/2011 03:48 PM, Christoph Noack wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> yes, all the material is available. Just being curious, what do you
> intend to do?

Thanks, Christoph

Here's the relevant thread:

http://www.mail-archive.com/design@libreoffice.org/msg00747.html

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line

Hi Jeff,

yes, all the material is available. Just being curious, what do you
intend to do?

Here you go:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Work_Items

Cheers,
Christoph

Am Montag, den 07.02.2011, 15:14 -0700 schrieb Jeff Chimene:
> On 02/07/2011 02:40 PM, Christoph Noack wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I totally forgot to mention ... The LibO banners Cor brought to the
> > FOSDEM were based on our installer images and just looked *amazing* - so
> > although we talk about some issues, the quality was just great. There
> > was even a person who came and asked to get one of those "simple
> > printouts" after the FOSDEM.
> 
> Hi:
> 
> Are those installer images available on the wiki?
> 
> Thanks,
> jec
> 



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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line

On 02/07/2011 02:40 PM, Christoph Noack wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I totally forgot to mention ... The LibO banners Cor brought to the
> FOSDEM were based on our installer images and just looked *amazing* - so
> although we talk about some issues, the quality was just great. There
> was even a person who came and asked to get one of those "simple
> printouts" after the FOSDEM.

Hi:

Are those installer images available on the wiki?

Thanks,
jec

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates

2011-02-07 Thread Jaron Kuppers

Hi LibO Designers,

Sorry for a second email already. ;-)
I decided to send out a list of potential template categories that Kevin and
I would use to guide our development of the default LibO templates.  I
wasn't sure how to get started so I thought about use cases for Impress and
then created potential template categories as follows (with design concepts
in parenthesizes):

*Academic templates:*
 - Architecture/Engineering (I-beam or similar structural element)
 - Biology/Chemistry (chemical symbol or stylized chemical model)
 - Social Sciences (one template as a sociology image)
 - *Economics could overlap with Business template and Geography could
overlap with travel*
 - Performing arts
 - History
*Business Templates:*
 - Business logo oriented theme (could include directions in theme to
substitute a company logo for a placeholder within the master)
 - Motivational: (Stylized human reaching for star)
*Leisure & home Templates:
* - Photobooks ("bound book" look)
 - Weddings or other life-events
 - Sports (maybe a Futbol theme as it is the most popular sport
internationally)
*Nature and Travel Templates:*
 - Seasonal (perhaps a simple one for each season)
 - Nature and animals
 - Travel (Famous locations or a stylized map/compass)
*General Templates:*
 - Solid color (currently available in LibO, so we should evaluate which
ones we want to keep)
 - High contrast (Simple black on white or similar)
 - *Right-to-left language templates:* exs: Arabic, Hebrew
 - *Top-to-bottom language Templates:* exs: Chinese

Please provide feedback or direction as Kevin and I move forward on
developing a few templates.  Thanks!

Cheers,
Jaron





On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Jaron Kuppers  wrote:

> Hi LibO Designers,
>
> Quick question...  Is anyone familiar with the following:
> - Right-to-left language templates  (ex: Arabic, Hebrew)
> - Top-to-bottom language templates  (ex: Chinese)
>
> I feel like it would be nice if we supported those with at least one
> general use template for each language direction.  What do people think?  I
> am personally completely unfamiliar with top-to-bottom languages in the
> context of presentations.
>
> Cheers,
> Jaron
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Kevin Soviero  wrote:
>
>> Alright, How about we carve template design up into sections, one (or
>> more) for each of us...
>>
>> For example, I am good at making the background (not just cause its easy
>> ;)), and I can coordinate colors.  We need someone to do the technical stuff
>> (title placement, etc...) , and we need to come up with the subjects to base
>> the templates on.  Your list is a very good start though...
>>
>> Any other jobs you can think of?
>>
>>
>> On 01/31/2011 08:43 PM, Paulo José wrote:
>>
>>> It's a great idea! I think some steps to start this should be:
>>> 1. Choose some main topics to cover with the templates, for all types of
>>> presentation: school, enterprise, marketing...
>>> 2. Look for the real presentations in each topics. There are many sites
>>> of slide sharing, when you can find the most rated presentations. I gives
>>> the feeling of what is needed to achieve in each template.
>>> 3. Work hard to create the best templates in a office suite ever! :D
>>>
>>> Count with me,
>>> ~Paulo
>>>
>>> I ever start with the Ubuntu one... :P
>>>
>>> On 31-01-2011 01:45, Kevin Soviero wrote:
>>>
 As I am sure most of you have noticed by now, the default set of
 templates from OOo Impress is terrible.  I was wondering if I were to make 
 a
 set (lets say 10 - 20) of really high quality templates for Impress, if we
 could get them included by default?


>>>
>>>
>> --
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>> Email: ksovi...@gmail.com 
>> Phone: (512) 672-9641
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line

Hi all,

I totally forgot to mention ... The LibO banners Cor brought to the
FOSDEM were based on our installer images and just looked *amazing* - so
although we talk about some issues, the quality was just great. There
was even a person who came and asked to get one of those "simple
printouts" after the FOSDEM.

Moreover, I got some feedback by one core developer who really liked the
clean design of the current splash screen :-)

Cheers,
Christoph

Am Montag, den 07.02.2011, 22:34 +0100 schrieb Christoph Noack:
> Hi Bernhard,
> 
> I'm sorry to appear a bit disruptive, but I think that the changes
> concerning the logo already address some parts of the community
> branding. Although I'm happy if we can further refine our branding, I
> fear that such changes lead to a bit confusion ... I've already seen a
> lot of Material created for the trade fairs (shirts, banner, pens,
> lanyards, ...) being affected of such changes. Moreover, blogger and
> press already use the given material ... so I am a bit doubtful
> concerning any change at the moment.
> 
> Thus, if there are issues to combine the document symbol with the rest
> of the graphic items, would it be helpful to just foucs on the text
> LibreOffice and a subline? If we need something "neat", why not play
> with the triangle that may be added somewhere - it can also be
> considered to be a (current) key visual.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Cheers,
> Christoph
> 
> Am Sonntag, den 06.02.2011, 13:44 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
> > Hi Nik, all,
> > 
> > here my ideas:
> > 
> > Dr. Bernhard Dippold schrieb:
> > > Hi Nik, all,
> > >
> > > sorry for not replying earlier, but...
> > >
> > > Nik wrote:
> > >> [...]
> > >>
> > >> If we were feeling adventurous, I think small changes could really
> > >> improve the look of the current logo; (refer to R05)
> > >> *http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibOlogo_reconfigs03.jpg*
> > >> - Clip the L so it is cut by the same gap which slices the paper icon:
> > >> for continuation.
> > >
> > > Good idea - even if I don't think we should do the same with the "b2"
> > > as in R06.
> > >
> > > I've already tried to reduce the distance between symbol and "L" even
> > > more by extending the green corner to the "L" - not really a valid idea,
> > > but you might get what I mean, when I'll upload the draft tomorrow
> > > (today only mail access).
> > 
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Logo_idea.png
> > 
> > Still with the darker grey, no consistency in borders, distance between
> > symbol and corner still to be improved and many other things...
> > 
> > I'd like to see the symbol as integrated part of the logo - and with 
> > less difference in height between symbol and text, allowing the text to 
> > be readable in smaller scales too.
> > 
> > I prefer b) very much over a), because the corner becomes too large and 
> > I like optical illusion (negative visualization of the upper part of the 
> > "L"), but I wanted to show you both.
> > 
> > Best regards
> > 
> > Bernhard
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 



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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line

Hi Bernhard,

I'm sorry to appear a bit disruptive, but I think that the changes
concerning the logo already address some parts of the community
branding. Although I'm happy if we can further refine our branding, I
fear that such changes lead to a bit confusion ... I've already seen a
lot of Material created for the trade fairs (shirts, banner, pens,
lanyards, ...) being affected of such changes. Moreover, blogger and
press already use the given material ... so I am a bit doubtful
concerning any change at the moment.

Thus, if there are issues to combine the document symbol with the rest
of the graphic items, would it be helpful to just foucs on the text
LibreOffice and a subline? If we need something "neat", why not play
with the triangle that may be added somewhere - it can also be
considered to be a (current) key visual.

What do you think?

Cheers,
Christoph

Am Sonntag, den 06.02.2011, 13:44 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
> Hi Nik, all,
> 
> here my ideas:
> 
> Dr. Bernhard Dippold schrieb:
> > Hi Nik, all,
> >
> > sorry for not replying earlier, but...
> >
> > Nik wrote:
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> If we were feeling adventurous, I think small changes could really
> >> improve the look of the current logo; (refer to R05)
> >> *http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibOlogo_reconfigs03.jpg*
> >> - Clip the L so it is cut by the same gap which slices the paper icon:
> >> for continuation.
> >
> > Good idea - even if I don't think we should do the same with the "b2"
> > as in R06.
> >
> > I've already tried to reduce the distance between symbol and "L" even
> > more by extending the green corner to the "L" - not really a valid idea,
> > but you might get what I mean, when I'll upload the draft tomorrow
> > (today only mail access).
> 
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Logo_idea.png
> 
> Still with the darker grey, no consistency in borders, distance between
> symbol and corner still to be improved and many other things...
> 
> I'd like to see the symbol as integrated part of the logo - and with 
> less difference in height between symbol and text, allowing the text to 
> be readable in smaller scales too.
> 
> I prefer b) very much over a), because the corner becomes too large and 
> I like optical illusion (negative visualization of the upper part of the 
> "L"), but I wanted to show you both.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Bernhard
> 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Back in business, hopefully

Hi Mirek,

great to have you back :-) I'm also back (from the FOSDEM) and try to
cover some of the points below.

Am Montag, den 07.02.2011, 17:45 +0100 schrieb Mirek M.:
> c) I think that the change of the default icon set to Tango happened a bit
> too early, as a number of the icons are actually a lot less usable than
> their Galaxy equivalents. For example, look at the "smiley face" icon or the
> flowchart icons on the "Drawing" toolbar -- you can hardly see the inner
> lines. In general, there is a lot less contrast in the Tango icons than
> there was in Galaxy, which means that icons are a bit harder to decipher.

Correct, was rather a DEV decision than a Design decision. The coverage
is sometimes less than optimal, especially with regard to specific
functionality like the macro stuff.

> d) Great to see the Design team Kick-off. Is there a certain schedule for
> each of the steps?

Unfortunately, not. But I wanted to announce the next step
(introduction) tomorrow or the day after. First, I'd like to provide the
presentation material which might be interesting as well.

But you are right, a schedule might help here, although we might miss
some data (which is not bad, but the schedule might make our approach
more transparent). Maybe I'll come up with a proposal ...

> Hopefully that covers most of the important topics on the list.
> 
> In any case, I'm glad to be back and ready to help.

:-)

Mirek, one thing that is important to me is, that someone has an
additional look at the website topics at the moment. I was unable to
keep track concerning the menu stuff ... but it seems that some
discussions are a bit too technical, although the main issues arise from
"content / structure" on the website.

Cheers,
Christoph


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Re: [libreoffice-design] MimeType icons: final run!

Hi Bernhard, Thorsten, all!

Thorsten, although we had some time to discuss this during the FOSDEM,
thanks for that (in public *g*).

Am Freitag, den 04.02.2011, 00:27 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
> > For each column (like Writer), you select one of the
> > placeholders, and set its Object Properties ->  Label. For existing
> > icons, you notice the naming scheme, e.g. "main_128_hc" or
> > "main_128". Before running the script, of course you need to set
> > that placeholder layer opacity back to 0, to not have it visible.
> 
> As you already did the naming for all the placeholders, we can just
> work 
> on the icons and improve them - as long as we leave the placeholders 
> (and the positions of the icons) unchanged, the script will be able to
> extract the icons.
> 
> Thank you very much for this possibility to ease the implementation of
> new icons in the source! 

Could anybody pick up this topic and summarize Thorsten' explanation in
our wiki? Maybe a sub page in our tools section ... It would be great to
have the information available for our future work (anything related to
creating/editing graphics in Inkscape).

Thanks in advance!

Cheers,
Christoph


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Some question concerning the 'fields' dialogue in writer