Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Drew Jensen wrote: > >> >> I will be glad to do it. Don't worry about the cost as I think I can >> cover that. If we do as others have with the CDs then we can recover at >> least some of the cost. >> > > Do you have the lead time needed for the printer after they 'acceptable' > the art? > For some reason I am thinking it is a week, but I have an email in to get a better answer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
I will be glad to do it. Don't worry about the cost as I think I can cover that. If we do as others have with the CDs then we can recover at least some of the cost. Do you have the lead time needed for the printer after they 'acceptable' the art? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Drew Jensen wrote: > > > Tell you what - can you take this as yours and coordinate with folks in > the art project (I see you sent an email already) > > I will just pencil in $55.00 for a banner under projected costs and you > as the owner, if that's alright? > > (it would really be nice to have a banner before June 14th & 6 foot > would be a good size) > I will be glad to do it. Don't worry about the cost as I think I can cover that. If we do as others have with the CDs then we can recover at least some of the cost. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [pr] Re: [marketing] Re: [pr] Re: [marketing] dial-in details for phone conference
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Peter, Peter Junge wrote on 2010-01-21 03.16: Well among 13 people who voted there are 2 living in China (Dong Xiaohong and me), 1 in Japan (Kobayashi-san) and Graham is AFAIR from New Zealand. That' about 30%. Well, Graham doesn't seem to care about making calls in the middle of the night. Voting for majorities always poses the risk to exclude minorities. Due to the large number of time zones from U.S. West Coast to New Zealand a global phone conference will never work. Maybe it's better to have some regional sub-conferences. Rosana (thanks again!) yesterday found out that 9 PM German time might be a time that could fit for everyone. Let's keep that in mind next time and see if it's possible. On my normal workday, this could get hard after 10+ hours of work, but if there's enough interest and people can attend then, we can try it out. 9 PM German time would be even worse for China and Japan (2 AM/3 AM), it might be better for New Zealanders who wake up early. I would recommend to play around with the Time And Date meeting planer: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html To try out an extreme example use Los Angeles, Berlin, Beijing and Wellington. I honestly wasn't aware that the chosen times are not good for all countries, that's why I was asking for feedback. The next time just ping me and let me know, so we can all benefit. I frequently attend phone conferences at OASIS, hence I'm already used to having calls late at night. ;-) Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Drew, As a reference, I can get a 6ft by 2.5ft heavy duty, reusable, sign for around $51.00. I say reusable so that it can be used for, hopefully, other events during the year. Tell you what - can you take this as yours and coordinate with folks in the art project (I see you sent an email already) I will just pencil in $55.00 for a banner under projected costs and you as the owner, if that's alright? (it would really be nice to have a banner before June 14th & 6 foot would be a good size) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Drew Jensen wrote: > Andy, > > Sign - no. Joyce got a quote for a 3 ft banner today, but she hasn't > gotten that to me yet. > > Flier - ah, tell you the truth I didn't really have to time to look that > over, I will do so this weekend OK. > > Thanks > > Drew Drew, As a reference, I can get a 6ft by 2.5ft heavy duty, reusable, sign for around $51.00. I say reusable so that it can be used for, hopefully, other events during the year. Anytime on the flyer will be fine. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Drew Jensen wrote: > Hamish, Russel > > Thanks again for prompting me to think a little more here. > > My last trip cross country, I needed to use the public access computer > kiosks at a couple of small town libraries (as in middle of Wyoming > small). Both cases they had really nice printers (I was surprised a > little) but the computers where a good 5-6 years old. (As an aside: one > had a copy of OO.o 3 installed - when asked the Librarian said a local > high school kid asked to install it - and - he was a good kid, so fine > with her...but she didn't know anything about it ) > > My intention is to bring just such a machine, an older Compaq, with > Linux/OO.o - this machine would not handle Win7/MSO 2010. I was thinking > that it's one thing to say that Linux/OO.o breaths performance back into > older hardware, it's another to let them see for themselves. > > Also - I was thinking we could offer the workstation/PCS as a public > access kiosk for the attendees, say for someone that needs to print a > resume. For those that have the 'deer in the headlights look' when they > realize it's not MS we have a real live person there to get them > started. [might be a dumb idea ??] > > Anyway, I'm just throwing out ideas here. > > Drew > Drew, It sound good and reasonable to me. Back in the old days sysops from local bbs would meet up at the "computer shows" and pass out a bbs list and sometimes have a "demo" bbs setup for new users to play with. It was great. :) Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Drew, interesting ideas Yes, I've noticed when I use Ubuntu it is a lot faster than Win 7 (I have previously used the Win 7 RC). Windows requires about 1 GB RAM and 16GB HDD and Ubuntu requires only 384 MB RAM and 8GB HDD. I think letting people use a Linux PC with OO.o (doesn't matter too much what Linux distribution, but you should use the latest OOo) will let them see how fast & easy it is to use. But you've also got to remember OOo is using the conference to promote OpenOffice.org and not so much Linux. Also, remember if we let lots of people print off their resume/CV the cost could end up rising, but yes I like the idea of something like that. Cheers Hamish - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Andy, Sign - no. Joyce got a quote for a 3 ft banner today, but she hasn't gotten that to me yet. Flier - ah, tell you the truth I didn't really have to time to look that over, I will do so this weekend OK. Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Hamish, Russel Thanks again for prompting me to think a little more here. My last trip cross country, I needed to use the public access computer kiosks at a couple of small town libraries (as in middle of Wyoming small). Both cases they had really nice printers (I was surprised a little) but the computers where a good 5-6 years old. (As an aside: one had a copy of OO.o 3 installed - when asked the Librarian said a local high school kid asked to install it - and - he was a good kid, so fine with her...but she didn't know anything about it ) My intention is to bring just such a machine, an older Compaq, with Linux/OO.o - this machine would not handle Win7/MSO 2010. I was thinking that it's one thing to say that Linux/OO.o breaths performance back into older hardware, it's another to let them see for themselves. Also - I was thinking we could offer the workstation/PCS as a public access kiosk for the attendees, say for someone that needs to print a resume. For those that have the 'deer in the headlights look' when they realize it's not MS we have a real live person there to get them started. [might be a dumb idea ??] Anyway, I'm just throwing out ideas here. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Drew Jensen wrote: > > Hi, > > Is that the layout of the flyer or the actual production of the flyers? > > Thanks > > Drew > Drew, On the wiki page you ask for someone to make the print the flyers. Since the flyer is three pages and most black & white let me know how many you think will be needed and I will do them. Also do you have a sign yet? If not I will see what I can come up with. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Knowing MS, I would not put it past them. Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Preventing software donations.. thats a concept :) > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Andy Brown > wrote: >> WorldLabel.com wrote: >>> Im listing here some other organizations and bloggers who can >>> possibly help >>> this effort: >>> >>> http://www.techsoupforlibraries.org/ >>> >> >> This site has a very interesting page, >> http://www.techsoup.org/stock/libraries/ . >> >> Sun is listed as donating servers and MS as donating software, with >> restrictions. If someone has the pull maybe OpenOffice.org could get >> list, unless MS has a contract that prevents it. >> >> Andy >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] request for SIP providers
Hi Christine, all, First I'd like to thank you for your contributions to the OOo marketing - all the topics you raised in your (admittedly nearly as long as mine) mails are important and need to be discussed further. If we could agree on using the Conf-call agenda [1] as general to-do list (as we can't cover the topics mentioned there in one or a few conference calls), you might add your ideas there... With regards to your proposal to use intensive mailing contacts in a given time-slot instead of a phone conference, I totally understand your concerns about phone conferences. Christine Louise Beems schrieb: [...] I personally find telephone conferences awkward. I seem incapable to understand 'who is who' by simply listening to tone of voice and this impedes my participation (which I know may not be a problem for others). For me it's a problem as long as I don't know the others from a few calls before or personal. If the number of members of a call is not too large (meaning more than 6 to 8 people), I'll be able to differ between them after some time. Also, in general I do not like the quality of VOIP (or cell) services due to reliability and clarity issues. Even if someone with a cell phone takes part in a landline conference it's harder for me to understand. Another point where I see phone conferences problematic is language: I think that I improved my English during the last years because of my OOo activities, and I'm able to follow spoken English in most cases. But on the phone it is much harder - and in a conference I don't ask for a repetition more than one time, because I think everybody else did understand it... There are reasons to have phone conferences instead of mail exchange, if a dedicated group wants to get a common actual status on a certain topic or if decisions have to be made in short term. Even in these cases I'd prefer IRC. But reading is much faster than writing, and you can't transport meta-information very good with written content - therefore phone calls can be easier and lead faster to results. Let's see how the call on Monday will work... Best regards Bernhard [1]: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Marketing_ConfCall_Agenda&diff=154505&oldid=154416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Preventing software donations.. thats a concept :) On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Andy Brown wrote: WorldLabel.com wrote: Im listing here some other organizations and bloggers who can possibly help this effort: http://www.techsoupforlibraries.org/ This site has a very interesting page, http://www.techsoup.org/stock/libraries/ . Sun is listed as donating servers and MS as donating software, with restrictions. If someone has the pull maybe OpenOffice.org could get list, unless MS has a contract that prevents it. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Español IM: j...@jabber.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
WorldLabel.com wrote: > Im listing here some other organizations and bloggers who can possibly help > this effort: > > http://www.techsoupforlibraries.org/ > This site has a very interesting page, http://www.techsoup.org/stock/libraries/ . Sun is listed as donating servers and MS as donating software, with restrictions. If someone has the pull maybe OpenOffice.org could get list, unless MS has a contract that prevents it. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Additionally the screen can accept a secondary input, so bring your own laptop. meant - so if anyone brings a Mac laptop? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Hamish Bell wrote: Hi I agree ... while we should be encouraging people to use Linux, we have to realise that Windows is just as important platform because so many more people use Windows than Linux. We should be doing our best to increase OOo usage, no matter what platform the user uses and by having maybe one Windows-based station will show that OOo works fine on platforms other than Linux. Hamish, Russell, Well, if you look the station with key number [2] = Virtualized Desktop. The two screens [1]and[2] would be running off an OpenSolaris server with virtualbox. The console [2] can run OpenSolaris, Linux, Win 7 desktops as needed. Additionally the screen can accept a secondary input, so bring your own laptop. Would that cover us? Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Hi I agree ... while we should be encouraging people to use Linux, we have to realise that Windows is just as important platform because so many more people use Windows than Linux. We should be doing our best to increase OOo usage, no matter what platform the user uses and by having maybe one Windows-based station will show that OOo works fine on platforms other than Linux. Hamish -Original Message- From: WorldLabel.com Reply-to: dev@marketing.openoffice.org To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Subject: Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:28:33 -0500 Hi Drew This is great: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Booth.odg Noticed all the work stations are Linux, i think we should definitely consider a Windows station also :( Russell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Hi Drew This is great: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Booth.odg Noticed all the work stations are Linux, i think we should definitely consider a Windows station also :( Russell On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Andy Brown wrote: > WorldLabel.com wrote: > > Hi Andy > > > > I was thinking mostly in terms of letting them know OOo will be > exhibiting > > (free CDs and downloading available) and information on ODF will be > > available, so hopefully they would help us get the word out that we will > be > > there though thier media outlets. > > > > Best > > Russell > > Hi Russell, > > Sorry, I misunderstood. That sounds great. > > Andy > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > >
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
WorldLabel.com wrote: > Hi Andy > > I was thinking mostly in terms of letting them know OOo will be exhibiting > (free CDs and downloading available) and information on ODF will be > available, so hopefully they would help us get the word out that we will be > there though thier media outlets. > > Best > Russell Hi Russell, Sorry, I misunderstood. That sounds great. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Hi Andy I was thinking mostly in terms of letting them know OOo will be exhibiting (free CDs and downloading available) and information on ODF will be available, so hopefully they would help us get the word out that we will be there though thier media outlets. Best Russell On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Andy Brown wrote: > WorldLabel.com wrote: > > Im listing here some other organizations and bloggers who can possibly > help > > this effort: > > > > http://www.oclc.org/us/en/default.htm > > http://www.oss4lib.org/ (very active open source group for libraries) > > http://www.webjunction.org > > http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/ (information wants to be free) > > http://www.techsoupforlibraries.org/ > > http://www.libraryjournal.com/ (largest publication for libraries) > > http://www.educause.edu/ > > http://www.arl.org/sparc/ > > http://www.cni.org/ > > > > I will approach these entities at some point closer to the conference > date > > to see if they can get the word out to help us. > > > > If you know any other organizations and/or librarian bloggers to > approach, > > please advise. > > > > Russell > > Russell, > > Thanks for the links. I am not sure how we can add these to this > mission, maybe adding another page to the flyer from Jean, but they > will help on a local project I am working on. > > Andy > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > >
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
WorldLabel.com wrote: > Im listing here some other organizations and bloggers who can possibly help > this effort: > > http://www.oclc.org/us/en/default.htm > http://www.oss4lib.org/ (very active open source group for libraries) > http://www.webjunction.org > http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/ (information wants to be free) > http://www.techsoupforlibraries.org/ > http://www.libraryjournal.com/ (largest publication for libraries) > http://www.educause.edu/ > http://www.arl.org/sparc/ > http://www.cni.org/ > > I will approach these entities at some point closer to the conference date > to see if they can get the word out to help us. > > If you know any other organizations and/or librarian bloggers to approach, > please advise. > > Russell Russell, Thanks for the links. I am not sure how we can add these to this mission, maybe adding another page to the flyer from Jean, but they will help on a local project I am working on. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Im listing here some other organizations and bloggers who can possibly help this effort: http://www.oclc.org/us/en/default.htm http://www.oss4lib.org/ (very active open source group for libraries) http://www.webjunction.org http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/ (information wants to be free) http://www.techsoupforlibraries.org/ http://www.libraryjournal.com/ (largest publication for libraries) http://www.educause.edu/ http://www.arl.org/sparc/ http://www.cni.org/ I will approach these entities at some point closer to the conference date to see if they can get the word out to help us. If you know any other organizations and/or librarian bloggers to approach, please advise. Russell On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Andy Brown wrote: > Drew Jensen wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Is that the layout of the flyer or the actual production of the flyers? > > > > Thanks > > > > Drew > > Drew, > > Have you have time to look at the flyer? Contact me off list. > > Andy > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > >
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Drew Jensen wrote: > > Hi, > > Is that the layout of the flyer or the actual production of the flyers? > > Thanks > > Drew Drew, Have you have time to look at the flyer? Contact me off list. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Heavlin, Lee wrote: > Andy: If you are going to be using these brochures for multiple > conferences and will have a steady stream of orders coming from > OpenOffice.org as a corporate identity, we offer just in time print on > demand for a series of products. > > We support some very large Fortune 500 companies that use our digital > center and fulfillment resources. Some use us for outfitting conference > attendees with everything they need, shipped to conference center/hotel > or to their office/home. > > Volume is what makes the difference. Let me know. Morning Lee, This runs into two problems. The first is that OpenOffice.org does not order them. The second is that this could be a one time thing. Thanks for the offer though. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [marcon] swag for Bengali-Bangladesh (bn-BD) team
Hi Mak, mak wrote on 2010-01-20 20.09: Considering your concern (in a separate thread in dev list) over limited marketing budget for this year, I've managed my organization to share a part of the cost for DVD, already mentioned in my previous mail. Now, we will need 400 US$ or 27,700 BDT. thanks a lot for the offer! I've just compiled the current budget expenses and wait for a reply of the budget authorizers. If they agree, we can start the funding process. I'll let you know shortly. Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
RE: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Andy: If you are going to be using these brochures for multiple conferences and will have a steady stream of orders coming from OpenOffice.org as a corporate identity, we offer just in time print on demand for a series of products. We support some very large Fortune 500 companies that use our digital center and fulfillment resources. Some use us for outfitting conference attendees with everything they need, shipped to conference center/hotel or to their office/home. Volume is what makes the difference. Let me know. Lee Heavlin Business Manager PBM GRAPHICS, INC. 3700 S Miami Blvd Durham, NC 27703 Office: 919-595-7612 Cell:919-741-0582 -Original Message- From: Andy Brown [mailto:a...@the-martin-byrd.net] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:41 PM To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Subject: Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference WorldLabel.com wrote: > Jean Hollis Weber just forwarded these links on ODF for libraries which will > be usefull: > > http://www.friendsofopendocument.com/resources/ODF-for-libraries-Oct06.o dt > http://www.friendsofopendocument.com/resources/ODF-for-libraries-Oct06.p df > > Russell > I just got the links myself. I will see what I can do to get them printed and ready. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Alarm (perhaps)
sh...@pi-consult.by wrote (22-01-10 11:07) \> Thanks for comments but now there is the following: Community of developers using Java environment and same programming language, is concerned about the further fate of a popular development [...] I've no reason to share any concern. Crystal bowls rule ATM. Wanna have a look in mine ;-) I just look forward to working with people from Oracle :-) Cor -- >> Your office 2010 software: the new OpenOffice.org << Cor Nouws - nl.OpenOffice.org marketing contact - Community Council member - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Hi Drew, Drew Jensen wrote on 2010-01-21 15.40: Booth staffing commitments: now at 4 persons (this includes Marino Marcich from the ODFAlliance organization) Team responsibilities: I will take responsibility for the booth ( setup, tear-down, staffing schedule, supply needed computing equipment for displays and demos ) Looking for: someone that will take responsibility for the 'content' we want on those computer screens thanks a lot for the update! I'll clarify the funding issue offlist with Russell and Matthias, so we can go on. Thanks for pushing this forward! Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Alarm (perhaps)
Hello All Thanks for comments but now there is the following: Community of developers using Java environment and same programming language, is concerned about the further fate of a popular development in the light of the impending takeover Sun Microsystems by Oracle. Large software vendors also believe that Java will happen around pretty much incomprehensible. Mark Little, technical director of middleware software in Red Hat, said that the intention of Oracle and open community of developers Java, are likely to have little in common. "Views of the development of Java for Oracle and third-party developers are likely to be different" - he said. "Oracle is much more focused on the monetization of technology than Sun. This fact should push the company into a more tight control over Java, than it was at Sun. Such an approach would benefit the most of Oracle, but significantly limit the ability of third-party users of Java". General Manager, SpringSource, a member of the VMware, Rob Johnson, also did not expect from Oracle any gifts to open community of developers. "I do not think that Oracle will do something foolish for Java, it is not a stupid company," - he said. Recall that SpringSource offers its own Java-development environment Spring and supports an open Java-server Tomcat. In most Oracle does not comment on plans for the development of products Sun, saying that on January 27 will provide full roadmep. Previously, the company announced that Java - this is one of the key assets that have become attractive to corporations. In addition, Oracle reported that intend to increase investment in Java, but did not say in whose interests it is they would be held. Today, open community of Java-developers published an open letter addressed to heads of corporations Larry Ellison's request simply to continue the course of Java, to take another Sun. The letter notes that Sun has made a positive weight for Java, so that this environment is the basis not only of Oracle, and HP, IBM and BEA Systems. Extremely important is to continue to remain open course for Java (the letter). "When the Sun in 2006 took the decision to open Java, then this environment at that time was the world's most popular. It is important for Oracle to maintain continuity, but did not consider Java as a competitive weapon in the fight against the same IBM or Microsoft", - said Little. In addition, the expert said that even if Oracle and Java take a rod of iron, the IT community, it will not become a catastrophe. First, the market is open application servers such as JBoss or WebLogic, and secondly, there is increasing cross-platform language capable of competing with Java. "Until present Oracle quite wisely, but solely in their interest to use the purchased company. Let's see what will be happen to the Sun", - summarized Little. "Many developers are not too concerned about the fate of Java itself. At the moment a lot of companies is creating Java-software, but the main work has come not directly from Java, but with additional functionality, which considers Java as a foundation." Viktor > Hi Stefan, > > Stefan Taxhet (sonews) wrote on 2010-01-21 13.46: > >> You are referring to the FAQ on Oracle and Sun which is linked from here >> http://www.openoffice.org/news/#plan > > right, thanks for the link! > > Florian > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org