[Server-devel] BBC Podcast: how to put THE internet in a box !
Thanks especially to Benjamin Bach in Denmark who made this happen, by referring the BBC's "People Fixing the World" program to me and others earlier this summer. Yes this podcast is only 23min, but it took many months of hard work to pull together! Huge Thank You to Anish Mangal whose Internet-in-a-Box community action in remote Northern India truly brought this podcast to life — and to everyone who pulled together, so that the global public rich and poor listen up — and wake up to all these many amazing "Offline Internet" initiatives... All thanks to BBC producer Tim Colls himself, who courageously went far beyond the usual Technology Solutionism — carefully addressing "Educational Imperialism" and the ethics of ignoring grassroots community voices — *and what everyone of us CAN in fact do about this:* How to put the internet in a box People Fixing the World <https://pod.link/1177590377>Oct 19, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cszv1s (23min) * Thanks to Everyone catalyzing these grassroots learning hubs of all kind, in your own country AND in your own culture!* In that spirit (how can we *each* help, everyone in *their* our way) anybody with even the most basic Linux skills should consider trying out an Internet-in-a-Box 7.2 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.2-Release-Notes> pre-release to craft their very own "community learning hotspot." Thereby seeding exactly such Sneakernet-of-Alexandria "Burnings for Learnings" peoples networks, in any rural or impoverished community that you can find, that deserves its own aspirational tools... - What are the most humane Sneakernets-of-Alexandria currently being built today, around this planet? - How should these distant human networks in health clinics / schools / prisons / libraries (and in your own home!) tangibly learn from each other, co-curating to Pay It Forward helping others? *None of us have all the answers in 2020! But Internet-in-a-Box <http://internet-in-a-box.org> is one key piece of this puzzle and installable on most any Raspberry Pi or PC <http://download.iiab.io>, if you too can enable kids/communities and civic networks in your part of the world. So do write us <http://internet-in-a-box.org/pages/contributing.html> if you have any questions about how best to make this possible, so we help each you (and help each other!) materially help others ~* ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 7.2 Release Candidate 3
It's been just over 3 months since Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) 7.1 but we've packed in a *LOT* of improvements here: IIAB 7.2 Release Notes (DRAFT) https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.2-Release-Notes *Please Try It Out <http://download.iiab.io> and do let us all know what the local learning community in your country needs !! * ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [support-gang] [UKids] Volunteers are tracking COVID-19 more informatively than the US Govt CDC (for now)
There's a Google Docs doc at https://coronavirustechhandbook.com/ and a Facebook site with lots of info...fast-moving, with an ok signal-to-noise ratio, but useful. https://www.facebook.com/groups/221979475862484/ There's also https://nextstrain.org/ncov that's mapping the genomic epidemiology of the novel coronavirus, as the mutations pop up around the world. cheers, Sameer ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Volunteers are tracking COVID-19 more informatively than the US Govt CDC (for now)
Tragically but courageously, volunteers are providing better tracking of US Coronavirus state-by-state statistics at https://covidtracking.com than the (currently mismanaged) US Govt CDC. 1) If you want to assist their effort, please read: - https://covidtracking.com/about-tracker - https://github.com/COVID19Tracking 2) Can parts of this be quickly repurposed for other countries in critical need ? ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] NGINX question...Nextcloud video doesn't play!
Does anybody know NGINX well, who might be able to quickly tell why Nextcloud's out-of-the-box promo video fails to render on Internet-in-a-Box? Specifically, instead of playing the video, URL's like the following... http://box/nextcloud/apps/firstrunwizard/img/Nextcloud.webm http://box/nextcloud/apps/firstrunwizard/img/Nextcloud.mp4 ...are all redirected to... http://box/nextcloud/apps/files/ ...which in turn redirects to... http://box/nextcloud/apps/files/?dir=/=2... If there any NGINX gurus out there, the config file in question (/etc/nginx/conf.d/nextcloud-nginx.conf) is sourced from... https://github.com/iiab/iiab/blob/master/roles/nextcloud/templates/nextcloud-nginx.conf.j2 Which was cribbed (thanks to Anish Mangal!) almost directly from... https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/18/admin_manual/installation/nginx.html#nextcloud-in-a-subdir-of-nginx https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/18/admin_manual/installation/nginx.html#nextcloud-in-the-webroot-of-nginx PS you can also see this for yourself if you install Nextcloud (18.0.1) as part of an Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) 7.1 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.1-Release-Notes> pre-release as follows: curl http://d.iiab.io/install.txt | sudo bash After you install IIAB, an all-blue Nextcloud popup appears (instead of Nextcloud's product jingle video!) when you visit http://box/nextcloud and log in, using stock the username / password... i.e. Admin / changeme A bit more background at PRs #2119 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pull/2119> & #2255 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pull/2255>. In short, many of us would like to fix this, but sadly don't yet have enough NGINX experience, a welcome your suggestions !! _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box Design Call...starts in 25 min!
If things go well, Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) 7.1 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/6> will be released at the end of this month, bringing major improvements to underlying infra like: - Python 2 -> Python 3 - Apache -> NGINX - Easier WiFi access for smartphone / tablet / laptop users who happen to wander by an Internet-in-a-Box installation (a.k.a. "Captive Portal") If you'd like to join the call in 25 min from now, please don't hesitate to write back and/or add to the Call Agenda here: http://minutes.iiab.io Thanks! _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] http://minutes.iiab.io updated wtih (1) summary of today's call (2) agenda for next Thur 11AM EST
Please review/revise (1) 2019-12-12 Minutes and (2) 2019-12-19 Draft Agenda here: http://minutes.iiab.io Thanks all for the *very hard work* pushing Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) 7.1 towards the finish line...with Python 3 and NGINX (etc) now increasingly working across our main 3 OS's <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-Platforms> ! ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] 11AM EST Monday IIAB Call Agenda
1. Please add to the call agenda here, highlighting several problems of the Raspberry Pi 4: http://minutes.iiab.io 2. Raspberry Pi 4 WiFi failures CONTEXT: RPi 4 generally works great as a WiFi client machine. But very serious questions are now being raised as to its (current) appropriateness as a WiFi server, 6 months after the release of the RPi 4. As a result, Mexico schools (in both Chiapas State & Oaxaca State) are all using RPi 3 B+ (and RPi 3) Internet-in-a-Box servers until further notice. A conversation with upstream devs makes sense to try to sort out the RPi 4 landscape for 2020. And beyond. (Can things like 64-bit Ubuntu or new firmware for "RPi 4 B+" help salvage the unusable WiFi situation by/before 2021?) 3. We'll also discuss very significant IIAB progress towards Python 3 and NGINX... 4. Please reply if you'd like to join this Monday 11 AM EST / NYC Time call! _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Installing Internet-in-a-Box? Beware Raspbian's latest kernel & Ansible 2.8.6 !
Please beware that most installations of Internet-in-a-Box are being seriously affected by 2 upstream bugs: - #1993 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/1993> Kiwix install fails as part of install of current master [segmentation fault, due to Raspbian kernel] - #2010 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/2010> Calibre-Web fails to reinstall (due to Ansible 2.8.6 lineinfile bug?) Both upstream products should fix their bugs in a few short weeks (or hopefully days?!) But until further notice, please sit tight, and thanks all for your patience! And...if you want an instant solution...do click above...as 2 workarounds are included, one on each above ticket, to get your IIAB installation back in business (: ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] ANNC: Internet-in-a-Box 7.0 for $35 Raspberry Pi 4
*Install Internet-in-a-Box 3X Faster on Raspberry Pi 4* *F**or Rural Schools, Libraries and Medical Clinics* When clickbait-driven misinformation puts journalism, human rights (and democracy itself) at risk — where do we turn? Communities around the planet are taking the future into their own hands — crafting their own purpose-built digital libraries to... *Bring essential / endangered / indigenous knowledge and learning rights to life* *Announcing Internet-in-a-Box 7.0 — with offline Wikipedia, offline Khan Academy, RACHEL content packs — and tons more...* - Pick a subset of the Internet Archive Offline <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/tree/master/roles/internetarchive#internet-archive-universal-library--decentralized-web-readme> from some of the greatest libraries around the world. - Install an IIAB Map Pack <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-Maps> for your favorite continent, with satellite photos across 10 levels of zoom, and natural/human geography visible across 15-to-19 levels of zoom. (OpenStreetMap vector maps are like Google Maps, but better for schools especially, as they work offline and avoid the advertising!) - Involve MediaMaking tools like Nextcloud 17's offline collaboratives editor <https://youtu.be/Nr7cGN6ZJM0> (like Google Docs) helping students learn modern/team workflows. - Explore electronics projects with Node-Red 1.0 <https://nodered.org/blog/2019/09/30/version-1-0-released> flow-based / event-driven visual programming. - Set up an "offline GitHub" <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/tree/master/roles/gitea#gitea-readme> to teach coding-with-a-conscience where there's no Internet, nurturing the next generation of free and open developers! DIY'ing your own "Library of Alexandria" is that easy — for any local schools, libraries, health clinics and/or family of your choosing. Simply drag and drop the best of the World Free Knowledge Content Packs, using Internet-in-a-Box installed on any $35 Raspberry Pi 4 computer: *Building your own offline library is now easier than ever* Thanks Everyone for weaving in the (g)local knowledge ecosystems that matter most — both the Internet's crown jewels (Wikipedia, OpenStreetMap, Khan Academy, etc) AND countless lesser-known environmental / indigenous cultural content vitals. You can even update to the latest Content Packs, bringing your rural Internet-in-a-Box into the city every semester, using almost any home Internet connection e.g. to download the very latest Wikipedia etc! Please read about Internet-in-a-Box 7.0's new capabilities making this all possible: *IIAB 7.0 Release Notes* <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.0-Release-Notes> And try it out, asking us <http://wiki.laptop.org/go/IIAB/FAQ#What_are_the_best_places_for_community_support.3F> any questions! Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) 7.0 represents 7+ months of work since IIAB 6.7 — and we're very proud to offer this to you for free! Thanks to some amazing free/open source work from professional volunteers around the world <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.0-Release-Notes#credits>, who are servicing and learning from the more than 20 countries <http://wiki.laptop.org/go/IIAB/FAQ#Where_is_Internet-in-a-Box_used.3F> where IIAB is in use, in partially offline and fully offline environments both. And...if you're not yet familiar with Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB), watch our videos to get acquainted: *http://internet-in-a-box.org <http://internet-in-a-box.org/>* *Last but not least, consider our personal INVITATION...* 1) The Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) Community Summit will be in Boston November 7-10, in conjunction with Wikipedia North America's http://wikiconference.org at MIT. To attend, please reply privately to this email, so we can help you make arrangements. Building on our 2017 http://OFF.NETWORK <http://off.network/> "med/ucational" content hackathon, we'll demo our new offline versions of https://en.unesco.org/womeninafrica/ inviting all to do similar, learning how easy it is to now *roll your own* environmental/indigenous/etc Content Packs! 2) Whether you're on the technology, humanitarian or field implementation side of learning rights, do consider helping us refine the upcoming IIAB 7.1 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/6>. Here's a list of just a few of the advances <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.0-Release-Notes#what-might-future-versions-bring> now being considered and worked on, that we'd really love your help architecting and polishing for early 2020! 3) Join any of our Thursday Internet-in-a-Box Live Community Calls ( http://minutes.iiab.io) to learn about and contribute to everyone's high-quality free and open knowledge ecosystems — typically held 10AM NYC Time — in alliance with Wikipedia, Kiwix, OpenStreetMap, Kolibri (formerly Khan Academy Lite) and amazing others~
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 7.0 PREVIEW 3, for Raspberry Pi 4...AND Debian 10!
THANK YOU to the dozens of people who've tested & dramatically refined IIAB 7.0 pre-releases in recent months! Our main testing focus during the very final stretch here is slowness during the first 5 minutes after boot on *1GB RAM* Raspberry Pi 3's and 4's -- perhaps "BIG-sized" Internet-in-a-Box install have become just a *Little Bit Too Ginormous* possibly (: And might need a bit of pruning in coming days if the primary culprits can be confirmed, among these ~30 popular IIAB Apps/Services: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/IIAB/FAQ#What_services_.28IIAB_apps.29_are_suggested_during_installation.3F Then, a true IIAB 7.0 Release Candidate will be forthcoming extremely soon, as soon as volunteers (you if possible!!) help get this issue under control here: http://download.iiab.io https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/5 On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 6:36 AM Adam Holt wrote: > On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:07 PM Samuel Klein wrote: > >> Congrats!! Wonderful to see this speedy progress. I tested out an >> earlier release @ DWeb Camp on an RPi4 a couple weeks ago; can't wait to >> try this preview. SJ >> > > Thanks to people like Jerry Vonau & George Hunt who've made an intensive > QA effort happen in recent weeks, so that IIAB 7.0's Release Candidate will > be available very shortly in coming days! > > A self-hosted, all-in-one radio station platform called AzuraCast[*] is > even now available as part of Internet-in-a-Box — to schedule podcasts, > music, and even do live streaming of audio content: > > https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.0-Release-Notes > > > [*] fyi AzuraCast requires Ubuntu 18.04 or Debian 10 for now. It might > run on Raspberry Pi later this year! > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 10:35 PM Adam Holt wrote: >> >>> I don't even know where to begin to thank people for all the *amazing* >>> improvements over the last 3 weeks since IIAB 7.0 Preview 1. Little did we >>> know that 2 entirely new platforms would be released (Raspberry Pi 4 and >>> Debian 10 Buster) in the over these past 2 weeks ! >>> >>> As such this is an *extremely powerful release* having successfully >>> navigated to transition to both -- that is incredibly promising new >>> hardware (the Raspberry Pi 4 stands to transform schools around the planet) >>> and arguably the granddaddy of all Linux distributions (Debian 10 Buster is >>> the basis for many other OS's). >>> >>> IIAB 7.0 is officially now approaching the final home stretch: >>> >>> https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.0-Release-Notes >>> >>> As such please everybody who can report any remaining glitches or >>> showstopper issues affecting your country's >>> schools/clinics/libraries/orphanages! (And any subtle/critical needs we >>> might have overlooked, as you go about building your own DIY >>> Internet-in-a-Box digital library?) >>> >>> Thank you *again* to everyone who can submit (any & all) feedback that >>> you deem appropriate, either in a private email, or right here in our >>> tracker: >>> >>> https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/5 >>> >>> Background, just in case you're new to Internet-in-a-Box, our >>> 1-line-installer to get you going is all you need, and it's here: >>> >>> http://download.iiab.io >>> >>> *And almost 50 common questions and answers are right here, just in case >>> :) http://FAQ.IIAB.IO <http://FAQ.IIAB.IO>* >>> >>> -- >>> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Unleash Kids" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to unleashkids+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/unleashkids/CAHaBuGeKADRsTj_y%2BeGRWZ16s%3DndwMXSJ4DNUjzC%2Bs29fM3tYw%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/unleashkids/CAHaBuGeKADRsTj_y%2BeGRWZ16s%3DndwMXSJ4DNUjzC%2Bs29fM3tYw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 >> >> -- >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Unleash Kids" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to unleashkids+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/unleashkids/CAAtU9WLkRON%3D8ZQCf5rnkjgjrd-FJ1jS7-4pGi0R64PnfEJffQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/unleashkids/CAAtU9WLkRON%3D8ZQCf5rnkjgjrd-FJ1jS7-4pGi0R64PnfEJffQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . > > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Internet-in-a-Box 7.0 Preview 2, for Raspberry Pi 4...AND Debian 10!
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:07 PM Samuel Klein wrote: > Congrats!! Wonderful to see this speedy progress. I tested out an > earlier release @ DWeb Camp on an RPi4 a couple weeks ago; can't wait to > try this preview. SJ > Thanks to people like Jerry Vonau & George Hunt who've made an intensive QA effort happen in recent weeks, so that IIAB 7.0's Release Candidate will be available very shortly in coming days! A self-hosted, all-in-one radio station platform called AzuraCast[*] is even now available as part of Internet-in-a-Box — to schedule podcasts, music, and even do live streaming of audio content: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.0-Release-Notes [*] fyi AzuraCast requires Ubuntu 18.04 or Debian 10 for now. It might run on Raspberry Pi later this year! On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 10:35 PM Adam Holt wrote: > >> I don't even know where to begin to thank people for all the *amazing* >> improvements over the last 3 weeks since IIAB 7.0 Preview 1. Little did we >> know that 2 entirely new platforms would be released (Raspberry Pi 4 and >> Debian 10 Buster) in the over these past 2 weeks ! >> >> As such this is an *extremely powerful release* having successfully >> navigated to transition to both -- that is incredibly promising new >> hardware (the Raspberry Pi 4 stands to transform schools around the planet) >> and arguably the granddaddy of all Linux distributions (Debian 10 Buster is >> the basis for many other OS's). >> >> IIAB 7.0 is officially now approaching the final home stretch: >> >> https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.0-Release-Notes >> >> As such please everybody who can report any remaining glitches or >> showstopper issues affecting your country's >> schools/clinics/libraries/orphanages! (And any subtle/critical needs we >> might have overlooked, as you go about building your own DIY >> Internet-in-a-Box digital library?) >> >> Thank you *again* to everyone who can submit (any & all) feedback that >> you deem appropriate, either in a private email, or right here in our >> tracker: >> >> https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/5 >> >> Background, just in case you're new to Internet-in-a-Box, our >> 1-line-installer to get you going is all you need, and it's here: >> >> http://download.iiab.io >> >> *And almost 50 common questions and answers are right here, just in case >> :) http://FAQ.IIAB.IO <http://FAQ.IIAB.IO>* >> >> -- >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Unleash Kids" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to unleashkids+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/unleashkids/CAHaBuGeKADRsTj_y%2BeGRWZ16s%3DndwMXSJ4DNUjzC%2Bs29fM3tYw%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/unleashkids/CAHaBuGeKADRsTj_y%2BeGRWZ16s%3DndwMXSJ4DNUjzC%2Bs29fM3tYw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 > > -- > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Unleash Kids" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to unleashkids+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/unleashkids/CAAtU9WLkRON%3D8ZQCf5rnkjgjrd-FJ1jS7-4pGi0R64PnfEJffQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/unleashkids/CAAtU9WLkRON%3D8ZQCf5rnkjgjrd-FJ1jS7-4pGi0R64PnfEJffQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Internet-in-a-Box 7.0 Preview 2, for Raspberry Pi 4...AND Debian 10!
Congrats!! Wonderful to see this speedy progress. I tested out an earlier release @ DWeb Camp on an RPi4 a couple weeks ago; can't wait to try this preview. SJ On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 10:35 PM Adam Holt wrote: > I don't even know where to begin to thank people for all the *amazing* > improvements over the last 3 weeks since IIAB 7.0 Preview 1. Little did we > know that 2 entirely new platforms would be released (Raspberry Pi 4 and > Debian 10 Buster) in the over these past 2 weeks ! > > As such this is an *extremely powerful release* having successfully > navigated to transition to both -- that is incredibly promising new > hardware (the Raspberry Pi 4 stands to transform schools around the planet) > and arguably the granddaddy of all Linux distributions (Debian 10 Buster is > the basis for many other OS's). > > IIAB 7.0 is officially now approaching the final home stretch: > > https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.0-Release-Notes > > As such please everybody who can report any remaining glitches or > showstopper issues affecting your country's > schools/clinics/libraries/orphanages! (And any subtle/critical needs we > might have overlooked, as you go about building your own DIY > Internet-in-a-Box digital library?) > > Thank you *again* to everyone who can submit (any & all) feedback that you > deem appropriate, either in a private email, or right here in our tracker: > > https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/5 > > Background, just in case you're new to Internet-in-a-Box, our > 1-line-installer to get you going is all you need, and it's here: > > http://download.iiab.io > > *And almost 50 common questions and answers are right here, just in case > :) http://FAQ.IIAB.IO <http://FAQ.IIAB.IO>* > > -- > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Unleash Kids" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to unleashkids+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/unleashkids/CAHaBuGeKADRsTj_y%2BeGRWZ16s%3DndwMXSJ4DNUjzC%2Bs29fM3tYw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/unleashkids/CAHaBuGeKADRsTj_y%2BeGRWZ16s%3DndwMXSJ4DNUjzC%2Bs29fM3tYw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 7.0 Preview 2, for Raspberry Pi 4...AND Debian 10!
I don't even know where to begin to thank people for all the *amazing* improvements over the last 3 weeks since IIAB 7.0 Preview 1. Little did we know that 2 entirely new platforms would be released (Raspberry Pi 4 and Debian 10 Buster) in the over these past 2 weeks ! As such this is an *extremely powerful release* having successfully navigated to transition to both -- that is incredibly promising new hardware (the Raspberry Pi 4 stands to transform schools around the planet) and arguably the granddaddy of all Linux distributions (Debian 10 Buster is the basis for many other OS's). IIAB 7.0 is officially now approaching the final home stretch: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.0-Release-Notes As such please everybody who can report any remaining glitches or showstopper issues affecting your country's schools/clinics/libraries/orphanages! (And any subtle/critical needs we might have overlooked, as you go about building your own DIY Internet-in-a-Box digital library?) Thank you *again* to everyone who can submit (any & all) feedback that you deem appropriate, either in a private email, or right here in our tracker: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/5 Background, just in case you're new to Internet-in-a-Box, our 1-line-installer to get you going is all you need, and it's here: http://download.iiab.io *And almost 50 common questions and answers are right here, just in case :) http://FAQ.IIAB.IO <http://FAQ.IIAB.IO>* _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Who can test IIAB 7.0's near-final release on Raspberry Pi Zero W?
If you have a $5-10 Raspberry Pi Zero W computer handy, please consider these Guideline Instructions to give a big boost to low-income Internet-in-a-Box clinics & learning communities around the planet: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/1799 Thanks All ! Final Release Summary Status: If IIAB 7.0 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.0-Release-Notes> continues to look good with critical / UX / "documental" issues converging across our release tracker <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/5> in coming days, this will be released in final form in ( approximately ) one week~ *Regardless of the exact timing of our final release...please also consider our next Internet-in-a-Box global community call @ 10AM NYC Time Monday July 8th, ping me in advance if you might join in for a bit...and/or want to consider contributing...and/or have skills-or-experiences to help inform the design of IIAB 7.1...itself expected around early Autumn...thanks to the work growing out of http://minutes.iiab.io <http://minutes.iiab.io> !* _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] IIAB 7.0 Release Candidate...Days Away...If You Help!
PLEASE HELP TEST INTERNET-IN-A-BOX (http://download.iiab.io) THIS WEEKEND ON RASPBERRY PI 4...OR ON RPI 3 / 3 B+ JUST AS VALUABLY...USING: - Raspbian Buster Lite 2019-06-20 https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/ - Raspbian Buster With Desktop 2019-06-20 https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/ - RPi Zero W (after building IIAB on RPi 3 or 3 B+ above!) - Debian 10 Buster RC2 was released 2 days ago but please try the latest: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/ - Sure Ubuntu 19.04 is not mainline, but if we can come up with a reasonably solid/viable solution to https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/1714 ("MySQL database password-changing failure during fresh install of IIAB on Ubuntu 19.04") we'll all be in far better shape for 19.10 in ~3 months and 20.04 LTS in ~9 months (: *If there are glaring errors at https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-Platforms <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-Platforms> please let us know!* TEST THESE AREAS PLEASE! - Install your favorite Map Pack / Continent using: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-Maps#how-do-i-install-an-iiab-map-pack-for-my-region - Click all the buttons that matter to you within IIAB's Admin Console: http://box.lan/admin username: iiab-admin password: g0adm1n - All other IIAB Apps you care about from this list of 30! http://wiki.laptop.org/go/IIAB/FAQ#What_services_.28IIAB_apps.29_are_suggested_during_installation.3F KNOWN ISSUES: - Sugarizer should be fixed this wkd: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pull/1777 - Debian 10 "Buster" will not support Sugarizer ( https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/1437) but this new OS's pre-releases are looking very solid, as it approaches its "July 6th" expected final release! - We need your help understanding which aspects of https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.0-Release-Notes and http://FAQ.IIAB.IO are most *Important To You*, as helpful Screencast Videos should be appearing soon in coming months, thanks to several creative volunteers ! ___________ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] IIAB 7.0's final release delayed a bit (into July) to ensure it runs well on RPi 4
Please buy your own $35+ Raspberry Pi 4 today[*] assist in making sure IIAB 7.0 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.0-Release-Notes> runs super-smoothly across schools & clinics in the dozens of countries where this will be used, Thanks All! [*] if available in your area. Visiting a Micro Center store in person is the best option if you're in the US. Annc: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-from-35/ Excerpt: - A 1.5GHz quad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A72 CPU (~3× performance) - 1GB, 2GB, or 4GB of LPDDR4 SDRAM - Full-throughput Gigabit Ethernet - Dual-band 802.11ac wireless networking - Bluetooth 5.0 - Two USB 3.0 and two USB 2.0 ports - Dual monitor support, at resolutions up to 4K - VideoCore VI graphics, supporting OpenGL ES 3.x - 4Kp60 hardware decode of HEVC video - Complete compatibility with earlier Raspberry Pi products Specs: https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ Smallprint...cords will have to be replaced: - USB-C (no longer Micro-USB) for power - Micro-HDMI (no longer HDMI) output, to 2 screens - 2GB RAM & 4GB RAM options won't be free ;-) _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Fwd: Finding an "Internet in the Box" partner for a humanitarian aid project
Hi Vera, I can make several recommendations of IIAB implementers who've worked in Nigeria and others who do excellent work outside Nigeria too. Please write me privately and we'll arrange a call to explain these options if they are useful in context with you specific needs, Adam On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 3:02 PM Vera Wedekind < v...@translatorswithoutborders.org> wrote: > Dear all, > > I found your contact details on this website when researching for a > partner to work with on an Internet in the Box project: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/IIAB > <http://ghf2018.g2hp.net/wpcproduct/internet-in-a-box/> > > I am currently consulting for the Nigeria program of the NGO Translators > without Borders'. The program just received funding from the European Union > Humanitarian Aid fund for a pilot study for 21 Internet in the Box devices > to disseminate informational and educational materials in camps for > internally displaced people affected by the conflict and humanitarian > crisis here. The organization did not identify a partner up-front to > implement the activity with in case of receiving the funding so now I am > doing this with urgency. The timeline is extremely tight (all devices must > be in camps by November 30, the last day to spend the money) so I am > looking for a partner who has experience with IIAB. We are basically > looking for the most simple and easy to use features, just putting text, > audio and video documents with informational materials on the server, and > an ability for someone to swop/update content with a SSD card or other item > that can be exchanged. > > Unfortunately we don't have an IT staff on our team. We have a small > budget of several thousand US dollars for this project to purchase the > devices, batteries/solar panels, shipping and also some development/set-up > cost. > > I am writing you as I hope you might have a suggestion regarding whom we > could partner with? I would be grateful for any answer and available to > discuss more any time. > > Many thanks! > > Vera > -- > Vera Wedekind > Interim TWB Nigeria program manager (consultant) > v...@translatorswithoutborders.org > phone/whatsapp: +234 81 36 85 12 09 > skype: verawedekind > _______ > Server-devel mailing list > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Fwd: Finding an "Internet in the Box" partner for a humanitarian aid project
Dear all, I found your contact details on this website when researching for a partner to work with on an Internet in the Box project: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/IIAB <http://ghf2018.g2hp.net/wpcproduct/internet-in-a-box/> I am currently consulting for the Nigeria program of the NGO Translators without Borders'. The program just received funding from the European Union Humanitarian Aid fund for a pilot study for 21 Internet in the Box devices to disseminate informational and educational materials in camps for internally displaced people affected by the conflict and humanitarian crisis here. The organization did not identify a partner up-front to implement the activity with in case of receiving the funding so now I am doing this with urgency. The timeline is extremely tight (all devices must be in camps by November 30, the last day to spend the money) so I am looking for a partner who has experience with IIAB. We are basically looking for the most simple and easy to use features, just putting text, audio and video documents with informational materials on the server, and an ability for someone to swop/update content with a SSD card or other item that can be exchanged. Unfortunately we don't have an IT staff on our team. We have a small budget of several thousand US dollars for this project to purchase the devices, batteries/solar panels, shipping and also some development/set-up cost. I am writing you as I hope you might have a suggestion regarding whom we could partner with? I would be grateful for any answer and available to discuss more any time. Many thanks! Vera -- Vera Wedekind Interim TWB Nigeria program manager (consultant) v...@translatorswithoutborders.org phone/whatsapp: +234 81 36 85 12 09 skype: verawedekind ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] ANNC: Internet-in-a-Box 7.0 Preview, incl Amazing New Maps
The big story here is Internet-in-a-Box's *completely new maps*, that include satellite photos (10 levels of zoom) as well as new OpenStreetMap vector-based tiles *zoomable up to 18 levels of zoom*. These new Map Packs are incredibly easy to install for schools, orphanages, libraries or medical clinics on any continent -- regardless whether these maps will be used offline or online -- just pick your favorite continent and the downloading/unpacking/installing will be done for you! box.lan/admin > Install Content > Get Map Region https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-Maps Also there's lots more to explore in Internet-in-a-Box 7.0, including click-to-install Content Pack logos and a *field-customizable Internet-in-a-Box home page* -- for teachers who take action into their own hands: box.lan/admin > Content Menus https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-7.0-Release-Notes Next week we hope to release Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) 7.0 in final form, if you agree this preview looks good! As a reminder, you can also *choose between 30 IIAB Educational Apps* during installation, as shown here: What services (IIAB apps) are suggested during installation? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/IIAB/FAQ#What_services_.28IIAB_apps.29_are_suggested_during_installation.3F *All it takes to install IIAB 7.0 (Preview 1) is its 1-line installer (http://download.iiab.io <http://download.iiab.io>) on Raspberry Pi -- or use an old PC or laptop that you have lying around. (Installing an OS like Ubuntu 18.04, or Debian 9 / Debian 10 is the only prerequisite...please then let us know your impressions after installing & exploring IIAB...towards helping any school that you know is in need of a modern library!) * Example Content that you can quickly install: yesterday was a very lucky day for schools in the ~25 countries were Spanish is important, as the 22 GB Spanish Wikipedia was just published exactly 14 months after the prior version (it was 19GB back then in April 2018!) so please do let us know your impressions if you try this out: box.lan > Install Content > Get ZIM Files from Kiwix http://wiki.laptop.org/go/IIAB/FAQ#How_do_I_customize_my_Internet-in-a-Box_home_page.3F *Finally if you don't like mailing lists, but still love DIY libraries:* here are many other ways to make your contribution (of any kind!) count, by contacting us with your suggestions ,in more personal and friendly ways: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/IIAB/FAQ#What_are_the_best_places_for_community_support.3F _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Booting from a big USB stick
> My dream is an RPi3 based schoolserver with a 1TB (or 2TB) external hard-drive at under $150 (about 1/3 of NUC-based server). Or $35 RPi4 in 2020 which might even raise your hard-disk transfer rate well above the current USB2 theoretical max of 60 MBytes/sec -- just don't count on SATA or NMVe or M.2 (: My point earlier was simply that well-meaning people who are unfamiliar with the developing world (quite the opposite of Tony Anderson) should avoid wasting their money buying $68 400GB <https://amazon.com/dp/B074RNRM2B> and $130 512GB <https://amazon.com/dp/B07MKSGZM6> microSD cards for Raspberry Pi...the reasons are not always obvious in the rich world: 1. Tiny $~100 items (a microSD card is smaller than a penny) can "silently disappear" in classrooms/countries where that represents a month's salary. Recriminations across the school become very serious in cases of theft, sometimes resulting in cancellation of their computer program. Yep "thoughtless generosity" can frequently backfire. 2. Even the temptation of theft can create dangerous social disruption in impoverished schools/countries especially -- whereas a wealthy volunteer typically won't give a thought to $100, not realizing this is equivalent to leaving $10,000 in cash completely unprotected in a classroom in a rich part of the world -- e.g. in places like NY City where teachers salaries of $100,000 to $120,000/year exist (and are no longer uncommon). 3. A USB hard disk can be a much better use of funds than a microSD card among groups that want a "full library experience" (as you point out). Particularly if they have people who are experienced/intelligent enough (like yourself) to fill those TB disks with high-quality and locally-relevant local-language materials. Conversely I've met many well-meaning NGO's and govts who do not have a clue how to fill even a fraction of their 1TB disks with pedagogically relevant/useful/legal OER's (open educational resources) *so our road remains long :)* -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! _______________ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Booting from a big USB stick
Hi, Adam As you know this is an area where we agree to disagree. Currently the schoolserver's valid, useful content exceeds 500GB. I really do not want to get into the game of deciding what is worthwhile and what is not. It is clear that the planned expansion of OSM will require increased capacity. If local content is seriously supported, the amount will increase even further. At one time OLPC estimated storage of the Journal would take 2GB per XO. A typical Rwanda school has 200 XOs potentially requiring 400GB of additional space. My dream is an RPi3 based schoolserver with a 1TB (or 2TB) external hard-drive at under $150 (about 1/3 of NUC-based server). Tony On 3/20/19 9:26 AM, Adam Holt wrote: On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:22 PM Adam Holt <mailto:h...@laptop.org>> wrote: Thanks Tony. Another option is to buy a $19.99 128MB 100 MByte/sec microSD @ https://amazon.com/dp/B06XWZWYVP I meant $19.99 128*GB* Or a $39.99 256GB 100 MByte/sec microSD @ https://amazon.com/dp/B072HRDM55 The 400GB, 512GB and 1GB cards are completely excessive & irrelevant for impoverished nations especially unless you happen to be a rich photographer/videographer of course, and want to donate your time to an important cause in which case do let us know...we will happily put your skills (and dollars) to work for a more purposeful cause. I meant 1*/TB/* _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Booting from a big USB stick
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:22 PM Adam Holt wrote: > Thanks Tony. > > Another option is to buy a $19.99 128MB 100 MByte/sec microSD @ > https://amazon.com/dp/B06XWZWYVP > I meant $19.99 128*GB* Or a $39.99 256GB 100 MByte/sec microSD @ https://amazon.com/dp/B072HRDM55 > > The 400GB, 512GB and 1GB cards are completely excessive & irrelevant for > impoverished nations especially unless you happen to be a rich > photographer/videographer of course, and want to donate your time to an > important cause in which case do let us know...we will happily put your > skills (and dollars) to work for a more purposeful cause. > I meant 1*TB* > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:04 PM Tony Anderson > wrote: > >> Hi, Gerhard >> >> The trick is to separate the server software from the content. Install >> the basic IIAB on a smaller SD card (e.g. 16GB). Then mount the 128GB >> usb drive (mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 for example). IIAB expects the >> content to be in /library. This should be possible by a symbolic link >> such as /media/usb0/XC /library. XC is a folder containing the content >> whereas usb0 is a partition. The original installed content in /library >> on the sd card needs to be copied to the XC folder on the USB stick >> before the symbolic link is made. In principle, Ansible should recognize >> the /library (XC folder) and operate as expected. >> >> Tim Moody has an img of the basic installation which should be perfect >> to set up the SD card (simple dd). I am looking forward to trying that. >> I am hoping that the img sets the 'box' (hotspot). This should mean >> everything can be done headless via ssh. >> >> As always, it will be an adventure. >> >> Tony >> >> On 3/20/19 5:29 AM, server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: >> > Send Server-devel mailing list submissions to >> > server-devel@lists.laptop.org >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> > server-devel-ow...@lists.laptop.org >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> > than "Re: Contents of Server-devel digest..." >> > >> > >> > Today's Topics: >> > >> > 1. Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - failure >> >(Internet Box) >> > 2. Re: Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - >> >failure (Adam Holt) >> > 3. Re: Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - >> >failure (Adam Holt) >> > 4. Re: Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - >> >failure (Adam Holt) >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 21:54:29 +0100 >> > From: Internet Box >> > To: server-devel@lists.laptop.org >> > Subject: [Server-devel] Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB >> > Stick - failure >> > Message-ID: >> > < >> canophhbjmdrisoddwbjkfs8guukjsz71p_v15t-ymoeb9lo...@mail.gmail.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> > >> > Hello all, >> > >> > i am gerhard from berlin and i am experimenting with iiab >> > >> > i succeded in booting my raspberry pi model b3+ from a 128 GB USB Stick >> > (costs are only 18€) >> > ok >> > then i wanted to let work this magic sentence >> > >> > curl d.iiab.io/install.txt | sudo bash >> > >> > but i got an error message in the beginning: >> > >> > tune2fs: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden beim Versuch, >> /dev/mmcblk0p2 >> > zu öffnen >> > Es kann kein gültiger Dateisystem-Superblock gefunden werden. >> > root@raspberrypi:/home/pi# >> > >> > so i stick in this. >> > >> > any solution for this problem >> > >> > >> > regards >> > >> > gerhard. MD >> > >> > Berlin >> > -- next part -- >> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> > URL: < >> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/attachments/20190319/f56163fd/attachment-0001.html >> > >>
Re: [Server-devel] Booting from a big USB stick
Thanks Tony. Another option is to buy a $19.99 128MB 100 MByte/sec microSD @ https://amazon.com/dp/B06XWZWYVP Or a $39.99 256GB 100 MByte/sec microSD @ https://amazon.com/dp/B072HRDM55 The 400GB, 512GB and 1GB cards are completely excessive & irrelevant for impoverished nations especially unless you happen to be a rich photographer/videographer of course, and want to donate your time to an important cause in which case do let us know...we will happily put your skills (and dollars) to work for a more purposeful cause. On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:04 PM Tony Anderson wrote: > Hi, Gerhard > > The trick is to separate the server software from the content. Install > the basic IIAB on a smaller SD card (e.g. 16GB). Then mount the 128GB > usb drive (mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 for example). IIAB expects the > content to be in /library. This should be possible by a symbolic link > such as /media/usb0/XC /library. XC is a folder containing the content > whereas usb0 is a partition. The original installed content in /library > on the sd card needs to be copied to the XC folder on the USB stick > before the symbolic link is made. In principle, Ansible should recognize > the /library (XC folder) and operate as expected. > > Tim Moody has an img of the basic installation which should be perfect > to set up the SD card (simple dd). I am looking forward to trying that. > I am hoping that the img sets the 'box' (hotspot). This should mean > everything can be done headless via ssh. > > As always, it will be an adventure. > > Tony > > On 3/20/19 5:29 AM, server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: > > Send Server-devel mailing list submissions to > > server-devel@lists.laptop.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > server-devel-ow...@lists.laptop.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Server-devel digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - failure > >(Internet Box) > > 2. Re: Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - > >failure (Adam Holt) > > 3. Re: Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - > >failure (Adam Holt) > > 4. Re: Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - > >failure (Adam Holt) > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 21:54:29 +0100 > > From: Internet Box > > To: server-devel@lists.laptop.org > > Subject: [Server-devel] Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB > > Stick - failure > > Message-ID: > > < > canophhbjmdrisoddwbjkfs8guukjsz71p_v15t-ymoeb9lo...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Hello all, > > > > i am gerhard from berlin and i am experimenting with iiab > > > > i succeded in booting my raspberry pi model b3+ from a 128 GB USB Stick > > (costs are only 18€) > > ok > > then i wanted to let work this magic sentence > > > > curl d.iiab.io/install.txt | sudo bash > > > > but i got an error message in the beginning: > > > > tune2fs: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden beim Versuch, > /dev/mmcblk0p2 > > zu öffnen > > Es kann kein gültiger Dateisystem-Superblock gefunden werden. > > root@raspberrypi:/home/pi# > > > > so i stick in this. > > > > any solution for this problem > > > > > > regards > > > > gerhard. MD > > > > Berlin > > -- next part -- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/attachments/20190319/f56163fd/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:09:35 -0400 > > From: Adam Holt > > To: Internet Box > > Cc: server-devel > > Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big > > USB Stick - failure > > Message-ID: > > < > cahabugftqkvyeukchwd6edk7x2shrogvtbi7glrxn+++-ev...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at
Re: [Server-devel] Booting from a big USB stick
Hi, Gerhard The trick is to separate the server software from the content. Install the basic IIAB on a smaller SD card (e.g. 16GB). Then mount the 128GB usb drive (mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 for example). IIAB expects the content to be in /library. This should be possible by a symbolic link such as /media/usb0/XC /library. XC is a folder containing the content whereas usb0 is a partition. The original installed content in /library on the sd card needs to be copied to the XC folder on the USB stick before the symbolic link is made. In principle, Ansible should recognize the /library (XC folder) and operate as expected. Tim Moody has an img of the basic installation which should be perfect to set up the SD card (simple dd). I am looking forward to trying that. I am hoping that the img sets the 'box' (hotspot). This should mean everything can be done headless via ssh. As always, it will be an adventure. Tony On 3/20/19 5:29 AM, server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: Send Server-devel mailing list submissions to server-devel@lists.laptop.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org You can reach the person managing the list at server-devel-ow...@lists.laptop.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Server-devel digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - failure (Internet Box) 2. Re: Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - failure (Adam Holt) 3. Re: Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - failure (Adam Holt) 4. Re: Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - failure (Adam Holt) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 21:54:29 +0100 From: Internet Box To: server-devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Server-devel] Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - failure Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello all, i am gerhard from berlin and i am experimenting with iiab i succeded in booting my raspberry pi model b3+ from a 128 GB USB Stick (costs are only 18€) ok then i wanted to let work this magic sentence curl d.iiab.io/install.txt | sudo bash but i got an error message in the beginning: tune2fs: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden beim Versuch, /dev/mmcblk0p2 zu öffnen Es kann kein gültiger Dateisystem-Superblock gefunden werden. root@raspberrypi:/home/pi# so i stick in this. any solution for this problem regards gerhard. MD Berlin -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/attachments/20190319/f56163fd/attachment-0001.html> -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:09:35 -0400 From: Adam Holt To: Internet Box Cc: server-devel Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - failure Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:54 PM Internet Box wrote: Hello all, i am gerhard from berlin and i am experimenting with iiab i succeded in booting my raspberry pi model b3+ from a 128 GB USB Stick (costs are only 18€) ok then i wanted to let work this magic sentence curl d.iiab.io/install.txt | sudo bash but i got an error message in the beginning: tune2fs: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden beim Versuch, /dev/mmcblk0p2 zu öffnen Es kann kein gültiger Dateisystem-Superblock gefunden werden. That seems to be German for: File or directory not found when trying to open /dev/mmcblk0p2 Can not find a valid file system superblock. What exact OS are you running? Internet-in-a-Box strongly recommends Raspbian -- any one of the 3 from this page: https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/ PS click "installation guide" near the very top of that page if you're not used to burning/flashing images using Etcher, Win32 Disk Images or "dd". -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/attachments/20190319/ad0d99c4/attachment-0001.html> -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:15:48 -0400 From: Adam Holt To: Internet Box Cc: server-devel Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - failure Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" HI Gerhard, Can you please use a microSD card, instead of a USB stick? Internet-in-a-Box is not normally installed onto a USB stick! In fact I don't know if this has ever been attempted before, so you're making yo
[Server-devel] offline OpenStreetMap & local mapmaking call Mch 21 (1st full day of spring!)
Thanks again to Mir Rodriguez from Panama/Mexico and all who can attend *10AM NYC Time (EDT)* this Thursday March 21st! 1) Mir will present several participatory/local mapping options including Magrit here especially, where he could use your help polishing its Ansible playbook for IIAB: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/1568 Please add your questions here in advance of the call: http://minutes.iiab.io 2) George Hunt will also present the outlines of Internet-in-a-Box's new offline vector maps, for each of ~7 continents, installable by non-technical implementers! 3) While Anish Mangal will present similar work to make India's offline mapping more vibrant in mountainous regions especially. *All are welcome but please email me in advance if you wish to join the call, Thanks All for this important discussion of civic cartography's ongoing designs & directions!* -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - failure
Thanks, I'll check it out. Am Di., 19. März 2019 um 22:32 Uhr schrieb Adam Holt : > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 5:29 PM Adam Holt wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 5:24 PM Internet Box < >> internet.in.a.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> yes, i do make my life difficult >>> >>> because >>> >>> - USB Sticks are cheap 18 € in Berlin 128 GByte >>> - USB sticks are very large >>> - USB sticks can be replaced easyly >>> - USB sticks will last longer than uSDcards >>> >> >> What's the evidence for that? >> >> so this is a world premiere i assume >>> >> >> Ok if you are wanting an adventure please document your travels for >> others! >> >> Can you open a ticket at https://github.com/iiab/iiab when you hit >> obstacles along this road, so that your trail is beneficial to others too >> if it works out? >> > > Sorry I meant https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/5 which is the best > place to open a support/tracking ticket at this time! > -- Gerhard, Berlin/Germany internet.in.a.b...@gmail.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - failure
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 5:29 PM Adam Holt wrote: > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 5:24 PM Internet Box > wrote: > >> yes, i do make my life difficult >> >> because >> >> - USB Sticks are cheap 18 € in Berlin 128 GByte >> - USB sticks are very large >> - USB sticks can be replaced easyly >> - USB sticks will last longer than uSDcards >> > > What's the evidence for that? > > so this is a world premiere i assume >> > > Ok if you are wanting an adventure please document your travels for others! > > Can you open a ticket at https://github.com/iiab/iiab when you hit > obstacles along this road, so that your trail is beneficial to others too > if it works out? > Sorry I meant https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/5 which is the best place to open a support/tracking ticket at this time! _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - failure
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 5:24 PM Internet Box wrote: > yes, i do make my life difficult > > because > > - USB Sticks are cheap 18 € in Berlin 128 GByte > - USB sticks are very large > - USB sticks can be replaced easyly > - USB sticks will last longer than uSDcards > What's the evidence for that? so this is a world premiere i assume > Ok if you are wanting an adventure please document your travels for others! Can you open a ticket at https://github.com/iiab/iiab when you hit obstacles along this road, so that your trail is beneficial to others too if it works out? Adam > gerhard > > Am Di., 19. März 2019 um 22:16 Uhr schrieb Adam Holt : > >> HI Gerhard, >> >> Can you please use a microSD card, instead of a USB stick? >> >> Internet-in-a-Box is not normally installed onto a USB stick! >> >> In fact I don't know if this has ever been attempted before, so you're >> making your life difficult :-) >> >> Then again if that is your choice, it is possible manual step-by-step >> instructions below *might* work -- entirely at your own risk -- and you >> will certainly need Linux expertise if so: >> >> >> https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-Installation#do-everything-from-scratch >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 5:09 PM Adam Holt wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:54 PM Internet Box < >>> internet.in.a.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> i am gerhard from berlin and i am experimenting with iiab >>>> >>>> i succeded in booting my raspberry pi model b3+ from a 128 GB USB Stick >>>> (costs are only 18€) >>>> ok >>>> then i wanted to let work this magic sentence >>>> >>>> curl d.iiab.io/install.txt | sudo bash >>>> >>>> but i got an error message in the beginning: >>>> >>>> tune2fs: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden beim Versuch, >>>> /dev/mmcblk0p2 zu öffnen >>>> Es kann kein gültiger Dateisystem-Superblock gefunden werden. >>>> >>> >>> That seems to be German for: >>> >>> File or directory not found when trying to open /dev/mmcblk0p2 >>> Can not find a valid file system superblock. >>> >>> >>> What exact OS are you running? >>> >>> Internet-in-a-Box strongly recommends Raspbian -- any one of the 3 from >>> this page: >>> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/ >>> >>> >>> PS click "installation guide" near the very top of that page if you're >>> not used to burning/flashing images using Etcher, Win32 Disk Images or "dd". >>> >> >> >> -- >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! >> > > > -- > Gerhard, Berlin/Germany > internet.in.a.b...@gmail.com > > -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - failure
HI Gerhard, Can you please use a microSD card, instead of a USB stick? Internet-in-a-Box is not normally installed onto a USB stick! In fact I don't know if this has ever been attempted before, so you're making your life difficult :-) Then again if that is your choice, it is possible manual step-by-step instructions below *might* work -- entirely at your own risk -- and you will certainly need Linux expertise if so: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-Installation#do-everything-from-scratch On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 5:09 PM Adam Holt wrote: > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:54 PM Internet Box > wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> i am gerhard from berlin and i am experimenting with iiab >> >> i succeded in booting my raspberry pi model b3+ from a 128 GB USB Stick >> (costs are only 18€) >> ok >> then i wanted to let work this magic sentence >> >> curl d.iiab.io/install.txt | sudo bash >> >> but i got an error message in the beginning: >> >> tune2fs: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden beim Versuch, >> /dev/mmcblk0p2 zu öffnen >> Es kann kein gültiger Dateisystem-Superblock gefunden werden. >> > > That seems to be German for: > > File or directory not found when trying to open /dev/mmcblk0p2 > Can not find a valid file system superblock. > > > What exact OS are you running? > > Internet-in-a-Box strongly recommends Raspbian -- any one of the 3 from > this page: > https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/ > > > PS click "installation guide" near the very top of that page if you're not > used to burning/flashing images using Etcher, Win32 Disk Images or "dd". > -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - failure
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:54 PM Internet Box wrote: > Hello all, > > i am gerhard from berlin and i am experimenting with iiab > > i succeded in booting my raspberry pi model b3+ from a 128 GB USB Stick > (costs are only 18€) > ok > then i wanted to let work this magic sentence > > curl d.iiab.io/install.txt | sudo bash > > but i got an error message in the beginning: > > tune2fs: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden beim Versuch, > /dev/mmcblk0p2 zu öffnen > Es kann kein gültiger Dateisystem-Superblock gefunden werden. > That seems to be German for: File or directory not found when trying to open /dev/mmcblk0p2 Can not find a valid file system superblock. What exact OS are you running? Internet-in-a-Box strongly recommends Raspbian -- any one of the 3 from this page: https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/ PS click "installation guide" near the very top of that page if you're not used to burning/flashing images using Etcher, Win32 Disk Images or "dd". _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Raspberry Pi Model B3+ - booting from big USB Stick - failure
Hello all, i am gerhard from berlin and i am experimenting with iiab i succeded in booting my raspberry pi model b3+ from a 128 GB USB Stick (costs are only 18€) ok then i wanted to let work this magic sentence curl d.iiab.io/install.txt | sudo bash but i got an error message in the beginning: tune2fs: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden beim Versuch, /dev/mmcblk0p2 zu öffnen Es kann kein gültiger Dateisystem-Superblock gefunden werden. root@raspberrypi:/home/pi# so i stick in this. any solution for this problem regards gerhard. MD Berlin ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Where I download KA Lite zip file in Spanish
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 9:31 PM Steve Thomas wrote: > Perfect. Found it, thanks. > > Also realized Wifi wasn't working was that is was being used for the > hotspot. Can you point me to directions to turn the hotspot off/on so I > can use the WiFi for download? Tried a couple things from admin console but > no luck. Was going to try George Hunt's xs-hotspot-off, but wasn't sure if > it was for XO only. > The equivalent 2 commands (can be run as part of Internet-in-a-Box/IIAB 7.0 master branch pre-releases) are: /usr/bin/iiab-hotspot-off /usr/bin/iiab-hotspot-on Sometimes a reboot is also necessary, after running either of the above. They've been improved over the last month, so please do _not_ rely on these as part of older IIAB 6.7 installations. These are simple bash scripts, whose internals can be seen here: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/blob/master/roles/network/templates/network/iiab-hotspot-off https://github.com/iiab/iiab/blob/master/roles/network/templates/network/iiab-hotspot-on Finally, here's a command that helps you monitor whether running these was successful: brctl show Thanks > Stephen > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 19:28 Adam Holt wrote: > >> Steve, >> >> There's extensive documentation on KA Lite tips & tricks for >> Internet-in-a-Box at http://FAQ.IIAB.IO #32 >> >> ("KA Lite Administration: What tips & tricks exist?") >> >> Read those 30-or-so lines from top to bottom, as so many others have >> fallen in these kinds of KA Lite content installation & configuration traps >> over the years, that you can save yourself a *Lot* of hassle by avoiding >> their mistakes (: >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 6:40 PM Steve Thomas >> wrote: >> >>> I’m in the DR, and while I downloaded Spanish versions of Wikipedia etc, >>> I forget to download the Spanish version of KA Lite. >>> >>> I found the command to install, but I need the Zip file. >>> >>> I know if I had internet connection on the IIAB box I know I could >>> install that way, but the Wifi isn't working on that laptop, and there is >>> no connection with Ethernet cable. So my plan is to download into another >>> PC and transfer with USB. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Stephen >>> -- >>> >>> See a Problem >>> >>> (That impedes your efforts) >>> >>> >>> >>> Solve the Problem >>> >>> (in a disciplined way that helps gain new insights in how to do work) >>> >>> >>> >>> Share What you Learn >>> >>> (So the local discovery has systematic and broad impacts) >>> >>> >>> - excerpted from Steven Spear <http://www.thehighvelocityedge.com/> >>> >>> >> -- >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! >> > -- > > See a Problem > > (That impedes your efforts) > > > > Solve the Problem > > (in a disciplined way that helps gain new insights in how to do work) > > > > Share What you Learn > > (So the local discovery has systematic and broad impacts) > > > - excerpted from Steven Spear <http://www.thehighvelocityedge.com/> > > --- > > -- > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Unleash Kids" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to unleashkids+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Where I download KA Lite zip file in Spanish
Steve, There's extensive documentation on KA Lite tips & tricks for Internet-in-a-Box at http://FAQ.IIAB.IO #32 ("KA Lite Administration: What tips & tricks exist?") Read those 30-or-so lines from top to bottom, as so many others have fallen in these kinds of KA Lite content installation & configuration traps over the years, that you can save yourself a *Lot* of hassle by avoiding their mistakes (: On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 6:40 PM Steve Thomas wrote: > I’m in the DR, and while I downloaded Spanish versions of Wikipedia etc, I > forget to download the Spanish version of KA Lite. > > I found the command to install, but I need the Zip file. > > I know if I had internet connection on the IIAB box I know I could install > that way, but the Wifi isn't working on that laptop, and there is no > connection with Ethernet cable. So my plan is to download into another PC > and transfer with USB. > > Thanks, > Stephen > -- > > See a Problem > > (That impedes your efforts) > > > > Solve the Problem > > (in a disciplined way that helps gain new insights in how to do work) > > > > Share What you Learn > > (So the local discovery has systematic and broad impacts) > > > - excerpted from Steven Spear <http://www.thehighvelocityedge.com/> > > -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] 1TB microSD
Pricing will come down, like all other cards in the past. I agree that shipping content will be a big plus. Sameer On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 10:31 PM Anish Mangal wrote: > wouldn't wanna lose one :) > > but seriously, this would be interesting from the pov of shipping around > large IIAB content collections > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 10:32 PM Sameer Verma wrote: > >> Looks like 1 terrabyte microSD cards are coming. >> >> >> https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/2/25/18239433/1tb-microsd-card-sandisk-micron-price-release >> >> Sameer >> > _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Offline Networking, Offline Chat, Offline Filesharing (Internet-in-a-Box, Android)
1) DESIGN, PROPOSAL | Rethink network, avahi, zeroconf, link-local for decentralized and multiple IIAB's on a network https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/1540 2) Please see the offline chat frameworks Anish, Aidan, Eric & All are circulating in the email below! 3) Internet-in-a-Box should also consider endorsing "the best" Android filesharing apps among things like: SHAREit, Xender, Zapya, AirDroid, SuperbeamPortal/PushBullet, Send Anywhere (etc!) -- Forwarded message - From: Anish Mangal Date: Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [UKids] Offline comms tools (Android) To: Sam Rossiter Cc: Related issue on IIAB - https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/1205 On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 10:43 PM Sam Rossiter < samrossi...@transitionnetwork.org> wrote: > Hi all > > I thought I'd share three tools that might be useful to include: > > 1) Briar might be a good choice for direct messaging (Signal but > designed for offgrid) > > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.briarproject.briar.android > > -- > > 2) Manyverse is the most exciting of the three for me, it's a > Scuttlebutt client. https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/ > > It would be great for more social public chats: > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=se.manyver > > You could also run a 'pub server' to facilitate peer to peer gossip > https://github.com/staltz/easy-ssb-pub/ > > - > > 3) Serval https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.servalproject > Is good for phone to phone filesharing. Which means it could be used > to spread itself. It could also be used to share the Briar/ Manyverse > apk's or indeed any other content from the IIAB. > > Sharing all three of these should come in at <100mb I think and would > be a good way to spend a bit of space IMHO. > > Thanks > > Sam > > -- > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] 1TB microSD
wouldn't wanna lose one :) but seriously, this would be interesting from the pov of shipping around large IIAB content collections On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 10:32 PM Sameer Verma wrote: > Looks like 1 terrabyte microSD cards are coming. > > > https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/2/25/18239433/1tb-microsd-card-sandisk-micron-price-release > > Sameer > _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] WordPress FAQ/tips/tricks for Internet-in-a-Box
Joshua/Eric & WordPress Gurus, We're seeing a lot of Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) communities increasingly very interested in WordPress in 2018 and 2019. Ideally to host their own content PDF's and E-Books alongside Calibre-Web <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/tree/master/roles/calibre-web#calibre-web-readme> ? To solve this nearly universal and growing request... 1) Can you help us improve on the new http://FAQ.IIAB.IO #34 ? These 4 tricks are a great start, but what else should we add? *WordPress & Moodle Administration: What tips & tricks exist?* http://wiki.laptop.org/go/IIAB/FAQ#WordPress_.26_Moodle_Administration:_What_tips_.26_tricks_exist.3F 2) Tim asks if anyone can possibly recommend a default WordPress theme, appealing to most all IIAB schools/clinics? _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] 1TB microSD
Looks like 1 terrabyte microSD cards are coming. https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/2/25/18239433/1tb-microsd-card-sandisk-micron-price-release Sameer ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Install Internet Archive server on IIAB
Done https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/1519 - Mitra On 25/2/19 1:04 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: Hi Mitra, Depending on the mode of IIAB install (Gateway, Appliance, Lancontroller) and a setting in a vars file, some iptables rules are setup that may hinder access and maybe causing you this issue. I would request that you open an issue at https://github.com/iiab/iiab Could you post the output of iptables-save Could you also post the contents of these two files * /etc/iiab/iiab.env * /etc/iiab/iiab.ini ~Anish On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 6:58 AM Mitra Ardron <mailto:mi...@mitra.biz>> wrote: I've made a lot of progress on dweb-mirror and can now run a small version of the Internet Archive (IA) server on a Rachel3+ or on a RPi (installed on a raw RPi running NOOBS, I'm now trying to put it on top of IIAB on Raspbian :-), getting IIAB to work was non-trivial and I'm surprised non-geeks succeed, if you like I can write up the notes I took with some suggestions. Anyway it appears to be working fine now. I've installed dweb-mirror on it, *BUT* its not responding as it does on other platforms. I'm wondering, are you running some sort of firefall on the box? I'm trying to go to either http://box.lan:4244 or http://192.168.0.7:4244 either of which should be working, but the server is not seeing any attempts to connect. I'm suspecting a firewall because "ssh 192.168.0.9" works but neither "ping 192.168.0.9" nor curl "http://192.168.0.9:4244; <http://192.168.0.9:4244> work. - Mitra -- Mitra Ardron -mi...@mitra.biz <mailto:mi...@mitra.biz> Technical Lead, Decentralized web project at Internet Archive Australia +61-491-082515; US Signal Telegram Whatsapp +15104231767. In Australia till 28 Feb 2019 ___________ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org <mailto:Server-devel@lists.laptop.org> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Mitra Ardron - mi...@mitra.biz Technical Lead, Decentralized web project at Internet Archive Australia +61-491-082515; US Signal Telegram Whatsapp +15104231767. In Australia till 28 Feb 2019 ___________ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Install Internet Archive server on IIAB
Hi Mitra, Depending on the mode of IIAB install (Gateway, Appliance, Lancontroller) and a setting in a vars file, some iptables rules are setup that may hinder access and maybe causing you this issue. I would request that you open an issue at https://github.com/iiab/iiab Could you post the output of iptables-save Could you also post the contents of these two files * /etc/iiab/iiab.env * /etc/iiab/iiab.ini ~Anish On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 6:58 AM Mitra Ardron wrote: > I've made a lot of progress on dweb-mirror and can now run a small version > of the Internet Archive (IA) server on a Rachel3+ or on a RPi (installed on > a raw RPi running NOOBS, > > I'm now trying to put it on top of IIAB on Raspbian :-), getting IIAB to > work was non-trivial and I'm surprised non-geeks succeed, if you like I can > write up the notes I took with some suggestions. Anyway it appears to be > working fine now. > > I've installed dweb-mirror on it, *BUT* its not responding as it does on > other platforms. I'm wondering, are you running some sort of firefall on > the box? I'm trying to go to either > > http://box.lan:4244 or http://192.168.0.7:4244 either of which should be > working, but the server is not seeing any attempts to connect. > > I'm suspecting a firewall because "ssh 192.168.0.9" works but neither > "ping 192.168.0.9" nor curl "http://192.168.0.9:4244; > <http://192.168.0.9:4244> work. > > - Mitra > > > > -- > Mitra Ardron - mi...@mitra.biz > Technical Lead, Decentralized web project at Internet Archive > Australia +61-491-082515; US Signal Telegram Whatsapp +15104231767. > In Australia till 28 Feb 2019 > > _______ > Server-devel mailing list > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Install Internet Archive server on IIAB
I've made a lot of progress on dweb-mirror and can now run a small version of the Internet Archive (IA) server on a Rachel3+ or on a RPi (installed on a raw RPi running NOOBS, I'm now trying to put it on top of IIAB on Raspbian :-), getting IIAB to work was non-trivial and I'm surprised non-geeks succeed, if you like I can write up the notes I took with some suggestions. Anyway it appears to be working fine now. I've installed dweb-mirror on it, *BUT* its not responding as it does on other platforms. I'm wondering, are you running some sort of firefall on the box? I'm trying to go to either http://box.lan:4244 or http://192.168.0.7:4244 either of which should be working, but the server is not seeing any attempts to connect. I'm suspecting a firewall because "ssh 192.168.0.9" works but neither "ping 192.168.0.9" nor curl "http://192.168.0.9:4244; <http://192.168.0.9:4244> work. - Mitra -- Mitra Ardron - mi...@mitra.biz Technical Lead, Decentralized web project at Internet Archive Australia +61-491-082515; US Signal Telegram Whatsapp +15104231767. In Australia till 28 Feb 2019 _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] ANNC: Internet-in-a-Box 6.7 lets you drag+drop Wikipedia, Sugarizer, Maps, Apps, Etc!
Announcing the release of Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) 6.7 ! Please use it to "steal" the Internet's crown jewels <http://internet-in-a-box.org/#quality-content> and craft your own LIBRARY OF ALEXANDRIA using a $35 Raspberry Pi computer, or any old laptop. Our HOW-TO videos <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0cBGCxr_WPBPa3IqPVEe3g> show you how to customize your Internet-in-a-Box "knowledge hotspot" — for your school, your clinic, your library, your entire region — or your very own family. Install Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) 6.7 using its 1-line installer <http://download.iiab.io/6.7> to transform an old laptop into a "learning palace" for a developing world school, that urgently needs this today! Then *drag-and-drop* the very best of the World's Free Knowledge (Wikipedia in any language, thousands of Khan Academy videos, zoomable OpenStreetMap, E-Books, WordPress journaling, the new Sugarizer 1.1, Toys from Trash electronics projects, ETC) for those who are burning for learning — but just happen to be offline. Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) 6.7 Release Notes: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.7-Release-Notes *The crown jewels are all free, liberated — and open source too! Internet-in-a-Box is now used in schools, libraries and medical clinics in more than 20 countries. Why not DIY your own LIBRARY OF ALEXANDRIA with a $35 Raspberry Pi computer, starting today?* ___________ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 6.7 RC2 Released!
*Everybody's encouraged to please provide feedback before tmrw's go-or-no-go call !* Release Notes: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.7-Release-Notes Install It: http://d.iian.io/6.7 Generally we recommend installing Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) on Raspbian, Ubuntu 18.04 or Debian 9. But new distro options also include: Debian 10 "Buster" pre-releases: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/1387 Ubermix 4.1: (instructions improving with your help, not yet final!) https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-Platforms *Please join Thursday's 10AM NYC Time Live Call to help us finalize IIAB 6.7 and look forward to IIAB 7.0:* *http://minutes.iiab.io <http://minutes.iiab.io>* _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] NEW: Internet-in-a-Box 6.7 Release Candidate 1
Includes *MAJOR* improvements since Preview 2, so one day everyone will be able to design & build their own digital library! Read all about it: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.7-Release-Notes Drag & Drop your favorite Content Packs: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-Menuing#2019-additions Install It: http://d.iiab.io/6.7 Discuss It: http://minutes.iiab.io Improve it: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/4 *Private feedback very welcome too!* *bugs iiab . io* ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] IIAB 6.7 Captive Portal progress! Screenshots needed from smartphones anyone who can!
Thanks all who can send us screenshots from any smartphones you have lying around, to test this very important new functionality, as explained in http://FAQ.IIAB.IO #32 ! When installed on Raspbian, Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) offers a Captive Portal since IIAB 6.7, so new users don't have to type in URL's (like http://box, http://box.lan or http://172.18.96.1) into their browser. This is similar to pages that appear automatically when you connect to Wi-Fi in airports/hotels/restaurants. This helps provide immediate access to those who have trouble typing in URL's, or live in countries that do not use Latin-based languages in their URL's... *If you face Captive Portal issues, please send us screenshots (or photos of any error messages!) by clicking "New issue" in the top-right of: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues>— don't forget to include the make/model of your client device along with the specific version of its OS!* ( All you need to do to test...use Internet-in-a-Box's 1-line installer on Raspberry Pi 3 or 3 B + to install a MEDIUM-sized or BIG-sized Internet-in-a-Box from http://d.iiab.io/6.7 ) PS a Release Candidate for Internet-in-a-Box 6.7 is expected within about a week, possibly earlier! (Several schools in Haiti/etc are hoping to use this in February.) _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Fwd: Internet-in-a-Box 6.7 Preview 2 RELEASED!
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 12:16 PM Kenneth Wyrick wrote: > This is so exciting. i will get started installing it with debian 9.6 on a > toshiba notebook. > Thanks Kenneth! Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) 6.7 Preview 2 was just released: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.7-Release-Notes* (more on release day later this month!)* Including *preliminary* support for installing IIAB on Ubermix 4.1 educational distro/desktop <http://wiki.ubermix.org/page/Ubermix_Changelog> for those schools that have hard drives in every desktop/laptop, wanting it all (rich free content!) pre-installed on *every* student laptop/workstation. This can be a lifesaver if you have donated laptops your team/NGO is installing into remote schools. Avni Khatri (President of Kids on Computers) will help us publish many more details in coming days, as we prepare for IIAB 6.7's final release later this month ("85+ % complete, 208 closed, 36 remaining" according to GitHub!) LINUX VOLUNTEER REQUEST: schools would *love* it if somebody could try installing IIAB 6.7/master onto a recent pre-release of Debian 10 "Buster" ( #878 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/878>). Please do get in touch anybody who can just run our IIAB 1-line installer (http://d.iiab.io/6.7) onto any Debian 10 from https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ -- be it Debian 10's Alpha 4 from 2018-12-15 -- or any other Debian 10 or Debian "Sid" (bleeding edge) that you prefer! thank you so much. i would love to see an OSSIE booth at scale2019 > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 8:50 AM Adam Holt wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 11:29 AM Adam Holt wrote: >> >>> There's been huge progress here in recent weeks: >>> >>>https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/4 >>> >> >> "77% complete" >> >> Thanks everyone who can help push forward any of these the above 55 open >> tickets ! >> >> (185 already closed !!) >> >> >> Not only are WordPress 5.0 and Nextcloud 15 officially now part of IIAB >>> 6.7, but dramatic improvements include our experimental new Captive Portal >>> (PR #1327 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pull/1327>) and an overhauled >>> DIY menuing system (PR iiab/iiab-admin-console#95 >>> <https://github.com/iiab/iiab-admin-console/pull/95>) ! >>> >>> IIAB 6.7's Release Notes are NOT yet finalized, but a draft is coming >>> together here now that IIAB 6.7 Preview 1 >>> <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/releases> is official: >>> >>>https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.7-Release-Notes >>> >>> A very special thank you to implementers & testers on all continents -- >>> who continue to validate our IIAB 6.7 pre-releases on Raspbian on RPi >>> especially, but also on Ubuntu 18.04 and Debian 9.6 -- every one of which >>> is installable right here: >>> >>>http://download.iiab.io/6.7 >>> >>> Let's try to release IIAB 6.7 before the end of 2018, to keep to our >>> quarterly release target, *including newbie-friendly documentation >>> understandable to almost anybody.* I think we CAN do it, but it will >>> take a joint effort from all! >>> >> >> >> -- >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! >> > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 6.7 Preview 1 RELEASED!
There's been huge progress here in recent weeks: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/4 Not only are WordPress 5.0 and Nextcloud 15 officially now part of IIAB 6.7, but dramatic improvements include our experimental new Captive Portal (PR #1327 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pull/1327>) and an overhauled DIY menuing system (PR iiab/iiab-admin-console#95 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab-admin-console/pull/95>) ! IIAB 6.7's Release Notes are NOT yet finalized, but a draft is coming together here now that IIAB 6.7 Preview 1 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/releases> is official: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.7-Release-Notes A very special thank you to implementers & testers on all continents -- who continue to validate our IIAB 6.7 pre-releases on Raspbian on RPi especially, but also on Ubuntu 18.04 and Debian 9.6 -- every one of which is installable right here: http://download.iiab.io/6.7 Let's try to release IIAB 6.7 before the end of 2018, to keep to our quarterly release target, *including newbie-friendly documentation understandable to almost anybody.* I think we CAN do it, but it will take a joint effort from all! _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] IIAB weekly call minutes published!
Thanks all & feel free to further refine here: http://minutes.iiab.io See you next Thur 10AM NYC Time, those who can, when we hope to have even more news on our prototype Captive Portal! ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Monday 10AM NYC Time Call: Internet-in-a-Box approaches v6.7
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 9:24 PM Adam Holt wrote: > Thanks for joining Monday October 15th those who can, at 10AM NYC Time > (EDT). > > Agenda is ambitious, so please read/revise here in advance of the call: > >http://minutes.iiab.io > > (RSVP if you can join, Thanks!) > PS please do your http://download.iiab.io/6.7 testing on the brand new Raspbian OS (2018-10-09) just released! http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian/ http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian/release_notes.txt (And/or other OS's like pre-releases of Debian 10 if you're especially adventurous +) > ___________ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Monday 10AM NYC Time Call: Internet-in-a-Box approaches v6.7
Thanks for joining Monday October 15th those who can, at 10AM NYC Time (EDT). Agenda is ambitious, so please read/revise here in advance of the call: http://minutes.iiab.io (RSVP if you can join, Thanks!) ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box Call in 3 hours (10AM NYC Time)
Sorry for the short notice. Our usual Thursday community/team call was not possible this week. Evolving Agenda: http://minutes.iiab.io ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Can I optimize WordPress and Moodle for high-traffic usage with Internet-in-a-Box?
Yes! Please see this/these new options we're experimenting with as part of rolling release IIAB 6.7 <http://download.iiab.io/6.7/>: (Internet-in-a-Box's master branch) Can I optimize WordPress and Moodle for high-traffic usage? http://FAQ.IIAB.IO #30 *Thanks any+all WordPressers & Moodlers for your feedback, fieldback & further suggestions!* _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Ansible 2.7 for IIAB 6.7: let's remove pink/red warnings to prep IIAB for 2019 Ansible 2.8/2.9 deprecations
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 4:52 PM Adam Holt wrote: > Can someone lend a hand modernizing our Internet-in-a-Box Ansible code, > looking over these pink and red warnings, to eliminate many/most, as > several will prevent us from running Ansible in 2019? > https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/1130 > https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/1100 > > If so please install Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) 6.7 on any hardware, but > especially on any OS like Ubuntu 18.04, Debian 9.5+, or Raspbian — and > simply help us all tabulate/categorize/squash all these warnings! > > Our 1-line installer is here: > >http://download.iiab.io/6.7 > CLARIF: Internet-in-a-Box 6.7/master is a rolling release, rather than a fixed/finalized version. It's heavily QA'd on a daily basis thanks to a number of *quite incredible volunteer contributors*, and as a result is already in use in a few production environments. FYI it is a step up from Internet-in-a-Box 6.6 released on Sept 12: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.6-Release-Notes (Like Ansible 2.7, Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish also arrives in just a > few short weeks...and while 18.10 will *not be formally* supported as > it's not an LTS OS...it just might possibly work with IIAB, with very minor > tweaks!?) > > > ** Thanks for helping us all make the transition to Ansible's new versions > for 2019 ~ do send me a quick note anyone who can run a couple test > installs in coming weeks ** > > > *In Other News: IIAB 6.7/master is definitely starting to shine now, with > several install process wins now (faster & cleaner install process, with > near-immediate remote access during provisioning!)* > > *...and a sneak preview of even bigger things scheduled to land on Tuesday > Sept 25 :) * > >Copy Content Packs to/from USB sticks/storage > https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/828 > _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Ansible 2.7 for IIAB 6.7: let's remove pink/red warnings to prep IIAB for 2019 Ansible 2.8/2.9 deprecations
Can someone lend a hand modernizing our Internet-in-a-Box Ansible code, looking over these pink and red warnings, to eliminate many/most, as several will prevent us from running Ansible in 2019? https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/1130 https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/1100 If so please install Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) 6.7 on any hardware, but especially on any OS like Ubuntu 18.04, Debian 9.5+, or Raspbian — and simply help us all tabulate/categorize/squash all these warnings! Our 1-line installer is here: http://download.iiab.io/6.7 (Like Ansible 2.7, Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish also arrives in just a few short weeks...and while 18.10 will *not be formally* supported as it's not an LTS OS...it just might possibly work with IIAB, with very minor tweaks!?) ** Thanks for helping us all make the transition to Ansible's new versions for 2019 ~ do send me a quick note anyone who can run a couple test installs in coming weeks ** *In Other News: IIAB 6.7/master is definitely starting to shine now, with several install process wins now (faster & cleaner install process, with near-immediate remote access during provisioning!)* *...and a sneak preview of even bigger things scheduled to land on Tuesday Sept 25 :) * Copy Content Packs to/from USB sticks/storage https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/828 ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 6.6 Release Candidate 4 RELEASED
IIAB 6.6 RC 4 will likely be the final product tomorrow, *please test it in coming hours and/or overnight, Thanks !* http://download.iiab.io/6.6 FINAL DRAFT Release Notes: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.6-Release-Notes * Includes late-breaking fix for dhcpd on Raspberry Pi Zero W (#1113 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pull/1113>) thanks to Jerry Vonau & Tim Moody. Barring any emergencies, all remaining issues will be deferred from the IIAB 6.6 milestone <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/3> and considered for early action in the IIAB 6.7 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/4> release cycle. Profound thanks for the hundreds of contributions that have made this possible!!* _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] iPhones block saving of PDF's to device?? Best workarounds for offline educators?
@arky wrote: How to save a PDF on iPhone/iPad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6A1ezWzG4I Priceless. Thank you. Is there anyway we can offer this iBooks app offline? (for iPhones etc that require saving PDF's locally, but are not yet capable, if iBooks is indeed the best way forward?) Thanks all who can help here, as hand-me-down iPhones are beginning to appear in the Android/Windows-centric developing world: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/1107 ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] RELEASED: Internet-in-a-Box 6.6 Release Candidate 1
IIAB 6.6 Release Candidate 1 introduces: - Calibre-Web E-Book Library, more modern than Calibre, at http://box/books - BitTorrent downloads thousands of KA Lite videos for you (pick a language!) - Kolibri 0.10.2+ builds on KA Lite, now going far beyond Khan Academy - Vector-based OpenStreetMap + Regional Map Packs for ALL countries - Sugarizer 1.0.1, a Major Upgrade from earlier versions - IMAGER: a new way to back up, duplicate and shrink Internet-in-a-Box in remote regions where there are no IT professionals. *And many other improvements <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.6-Release-Notes> — it's never been easier to build your own community's DIY digital library on a $30 Raspberry Pi — please do try out IIAB 6.6 <http://download.iiab.io/6.6/> and let us know what you think!* ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 6.6 Preview 6: Vector-based OpenStreetMap + Regional Map Packs
"How do I add zoomable maps for my region?" is now easy...if you know how to cut+paste a couple commands into Linux :-) http://FAQ.IIAB.IO #29 https://github.com/iiab/iiab-factory/blob/master/content/vector-tiles/README.md Thanks to everyone who can try it out on IIAB 6.6 Preview 6 <http://download.iiab.io/6.6/> (*) providing feedback if you can ! *(*) final release is in a few short days, with its draft release notes <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.6-Release-Notes> almost final now...don't fear the 6-6-6 :-)* _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] IIAB 6.6 PREVIEW 4, helping to diagnose Raspberry Pi hotspot "disappearances"
IIAB 6.6 Preview 4 (just released!) is installable from http://download.iiab.io/6.6 1) Profound thanks to all who can assist Matt Johnson now actively testing the following 2 situations...where WiFi sometimes doesn't issue IP addresses...OR sometimes disappears within an hour or so: - RPi WiFi hotspot sometimes doesn't work when Ethernet ISN'T plugged in? dhcpd fails to start? #989 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/989> - TK: RPi WiFi hotspot can fail within an hour if Ethernet IS plugged in during boot? #926 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/926> *There is reason to believe that one or both of these highly intermittent gotchas may be due to underlying Raspbian / firmware issues, possibly raspberrypi/linux#2453 <https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/2453> and http://community.rachelfriends.org/t/loosing-wifi-connectivity-on-rachel-plus-3-0/838 <http://community.rachelfriends.org/t/loosing-wifi-connectivity-on-rachel-plus-3-0/838> ? But we need more REPEATABLE PATTERNS -- thanks all who are able to contribute, rebooting as many times as necessary until patterns become more apparent and Written Up For Others !* 2) Thank you so much to Matt Johnson, who learned the hard way and again reminded us today that NOOBS has a Very Different partition table from Raspbian, and will not work :-) 3) In other news, IIAB 6.6 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/3> has converged **tremendously** over the past month, thanks to Arky and many others' extremely intensive testing...by more than 10 different volunteers...bringing this to fruition with at least 3 deployments having just now in recent days gone live in schools with IIAB 6.6 pre-releases! So even if we don't receive every last one of our heart's desires — yes there will be a few KNOWN ISSUES even on 6.6 Release Day (see the bottom of IIAB 6.6's Draft Release Notes <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.6-Release-Notes> !) I'm convinced we can and should release around late August 2018, paving the way for IIAB 6.7 itself too coming very soon later this year :-) ASIDE: should we consider supporting NOOBS and its very odd partition tables <https://github.com/raspberrypi/noobs/wiki/NOOBS-partitioning-explained> for IIAB 6.7 later this year, to embrace a substantially broader global demographic, committing more deeply to reduce barriers to entry, in order to welcome everybody? (Or conversely is NOOBS's partitioning something we just cannot touch, even with a 10-foot pole :-) e.g. the current glitch arising from "tune2fs -m 1 /dev/mmcblk0p2" on NOOBS can easily be fixed using "tune2fs -m 1 /dev/mmcblk0p7" IF NOOBS should even be considered at all? _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 6.6 Preview 3 RELEASED!
oned above! >>> >>> WHAT'S THE LATEST? >>> >>>- Sugarizer 1.0.1 was added to IIAB 6.6/master Wednesday 2 days ago >>>(for MEDIUM-sized and BIG-sized installs). Two people have hit >>>so-far-unexplained problems with "npm 5.6.0" unable to build the Node.js >>>stuff for Sugarizer on RPi 3 and RPi 3 B+ ("cd >>> /opt/iiab/sugarizer-server" >>>then "npm install" fails and/or runs out of memory on certain RPi 3's but >>>not others, despite seemingly identical conditions). If Node experts can >>>help out on Raspberry Pi, that'd be super awesome, please shout or write >>> me >>>privately! *Lionel: will an official v1.0.1 of sugarizer-server >>><https://github.com/llaske/sugarizer-server/releases> be possible in >>> coming >>>days, so IIAB 6.6 is can become even more stable, instead of driving off >>> of >>>sugarizer-server's master branch?* In any case: we can release IIAB >>>6.6 Preview 2 later in the week if that proves necessary to refine >>>Sugarizer on Raspbian. (PR #888 >>><https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pull/888#issuecomment-404370082>) >>>- Regional Maps Packs are now extremely fast to download, thanks to >>>compact vector-based tiles for OpenStreetMap. Central America >>>(including Haiti and a lot of South America) >>><https://openmaptiles.com/downloads/central-america/> is provided as >>>a sample to get you started (#877 >>><https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/877>). >>>- dnsmasq and our new Captive Portal is not quite yet >>>Ready-for-Main-Street (people who are unable to type in http://box) >>>but getting much closer -- please support Anish Mangal and Jerry Vonau >>>refining this (PR #870 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pulls/870>) >>>based on the original hard work of Tim Moody and Josh Dennis (#608 >>><https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/608>). >>>- Special thanks to Arky R. in Cambodia and the Philippines who >>>rejoined The Cause <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cause> in >>>recent weeks (someone help fix that Wikipedia article to mention the >>>Sneakernet-of-Alexandria that 5 Billion Minds are waiting for ;) Arky is >>>crafting our Kolibri 0.10 Ansible playbook (#841 >>><https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/841>) and already contributed >>>extremely valuable code benefiting all (#895 >>><https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pull/895>). >>>- >>> *Much More in our online DRAFT IIAB 6.6 Release Notes >>><https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.6-Release-Notes> ! * >>> >>> >> -- >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Unleash Kids" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to unleashkids+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 6.6 Preview 2 (released!)
>>> me >>>privately! *Lionel: will an official v1.0.1 of sugarizer-server >>><https://github.com/llaske/sugarizer-server/releases> be possible in >>> coming >>>days, so IIAB 6.6 is can become even more stable, instead of driving off >>> of >>>sugarizer-server's master branch?* In any case: we can release IIAB >>>6.6 Preview 2 later in the week if that proves necessary to refine >>>Sugarizer on Raspbian. (PR #888 >>><https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pull/888#issuecomment-404370082>) >>>- Regional Maps Packs are now extremely fast to download, thanks to >>>compact vector-based tiles for OpenStreetMap. Central America >>>(including Haiti and a lot of South America) >>><https://openmaptiles.com/downloads/central-america/> is provided as >>>a sample to get you started (#877 >>><https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/877>). >>>- dnsmasq and our new Captive Portal is not quite yet >>>Ready-for-Main-Street (people who are unable to type in http://box) >>>but getting much closer -- please support Anish Mangal and Jerry Vonau >>>refining this (PR #870 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pulls/870>) >>>based on the original hard work of Tim Moody and Josh Dennis (#608 >>><https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/608>). >>>- Special thanks to Arky R. in Cambodia and the Philippines who >>>rejoined The Cause <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cause> in >>>recent weeks (someone help fix that Wikipedia article to mention the >>>Sneakernet-of-Alexandria that 5 Billion Minds are waiting for ;) Arky is >>>crafting our Kolibri 0.10 Ansible playbook (#841 >>> <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/841>) and already contributed >>> extremely valuable code benefiting all (#895 >>><https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pull/895>). >>>- >>> *Much More in our online DRAFT IIAB 6.6 Release Notes >>><https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.6-Release-Notes> ! * >>> >>> >> -- >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Unleash Kids" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to unleashkids+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > > -- > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 6.6 Preview 2 (released!)
sq and our new Captive Portal is not quite yet >>Ready-for-Main-Street (people who are unable to type in http://box) >>but getting much closer -- please support Anish Mangal and Jerry Vonau >>refining this (PR #870 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pulls/870>) >>based on the original hard work of Tim Moody and Josh Dennis (#608 >><https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/608>). >>- Special thanks to Arky R. in Cambodia and the Philippines who >>rejoined The Cause <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cause> in >>recent weeks (someone help fix that Wikipedia article to mention the >>Sneakernet-of-Alexandria that 5 Billion Minds are waiting for ;) Arky is >>crafting our Kolibri 0.10 Ansible playbook (#841 >><https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/841>) and already contributed >>extremely valuable code benefiting all (#895 >><https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pull/895>). >>- >> *Much More in our online DRAFT IIAB 6.6 Release Notes >><https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.6-Release-Notes> ! * >> >> > -- > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Unleash Kids" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to unleashkids+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 6.6 Preview 1 (released!)
Don't worry it's not "666" on Friday the 13th -- the new/preview Internet-in-a-Box 6.6 Preview largely works on all 3 OS's (Raspbian, Ubuntu 18.04 and the imminent Debian 9.5 <https://lists.debian.org/debian-stable-announce/2018/07/msg0.html> arriving "tomorrow" 2018-07-14!) Try a fresh install by picking one of Internet-in-a-Box's "1-line installers" here and letting it rip: http://download.iiab.io/6.6 You can choose a MIN-sized, MEDIUM-sized or BIG-sized Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB). Whichever you install, first read the security and OS-updating recommendations at the top of that .txt file, to get yourself safely onto the latest kernel. Raspberry Pi peops: use the new 2018-06-27 Raspbian <https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/> (Lite or Desktop). PC / x86_64 peops: use either the server edition or the graphical/desktop edition of any Linux distribution Very Similar to the 3 mentioned above! WHAT'S THE LATEST? - Sugarizer 1.0.1 was added to IIAB 6.6/master Wednesday 2 days ago (for MEDIUM-sized and BIG-sized installs). Two people have hit so-far-unexplained problems with "npm 5.6.0" unable to build the Node.js stuff for Sugarizer on RPi 3 and RPi 3 B+ ("cd /opt/iiab/sugarizer-server" then "npm install" fails and/or runs out of memory on certain RPi 3's but not others, despite seemingly identical conditions). If Node experts can help out on Raspberry Pi, that'd be super awesome, please shout or write me privately! *Lionel: will an official v1.0.1 of sugarizer-server <https://github.com/llaske/sugarizer-server/releases> be possible in coming days, so IIAB 6.6 is can become even more stable, instead of driving off of sugarizer-server's master branch?* In any case: we can release IIAB 6.6 Preview 2 later in the week if that proves necessary to refine Sugarizer on Raspbian. (PR #888 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pull/888#issuecomment-404370082>) - Regional Maps Packs are now extremely fast to download, thanks to compact vector-based tiles for OpenStreetMap. Central America (including Haiti and a lot of South America) <https://openmaptiles.com/downloads/central-america/> is provided as a sample to get you started (#877 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/877> ). - dnsmasq and our new Captive Portal is not quite yet Ready-for-Main-Street (people who are unable to type in http://box) but getting much closer -- please support Anish Mangal and Jerry Vonau refining this (PR #870 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pulls/870>) based on the original hard work of Tim Moody and Josh Dennis (#608 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/608>). - Special thanks to Arky R. in Cambodia and the Philippines who rejoined The Cause <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cause> in recent weeks (someone help fix that Wikipedia article to mention the Sneakernet-of-Alexandria that 5 Billion Minds are waiting for ;) Arky is crafting our Kolibri 0.10 Ansible playbook (#841 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/841>) and already contributed extremely valuable code benefiting all (#895 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pull/895>). - *Much More in our online DRAFT IIAB 6.6 Release Notes <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.6-Release-Notes> ! * _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Who knows someone who can help test Internet-in-a-Box 6.6 on Debian 9?
Thanks all for please helping here as IIAB 6.6 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/milestone/3> approaches the finish line as a Fast Track Release[*] in coming weeks: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/issues/878 [*] for testers, teachers and techs in Cambodia and beyond! CLARIF: we're happy that IIAB 6.6 pre-releases already work great on Raspberry Pi (Raspbian) and Ubuntu 18.04 LTS! However we're certainly not profiting from Canonical's upcoming IPO[1][2], and would love to have equally solid support of other broadly-used-Linux's like Debian 9.4 (and CentOS 7.5 too) *if you know people who can please help !* Any enthusiastic volunteer who can get in touch to try (1) quick smoke-test evaluations of IIAB 6.6's installation <http://download.iiab.io/6.6> on a VM or old PC and/or (2) can work thru simple/common installation glitches... *would (both) be Extremely Useful (:* [1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/canonical-starts-ipo-path/ [2] https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/canonical-ipo-not-happening-this-year ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) recommends Ansible 2.6.x
As this is such a common question, this IIAB Community Suggestions/Guideline was published overnight, under the title: * "What is Ansible and what version should I use?"* http://FAQ.IIAB.IO #9 As prompted by yesterday's successfully tested release of Red Hat's Ansible 2.6.0 *Thanks to everyone (Jerry Vonau especially, but also many others) who helped make our Internet-in-a-Box's Ansible-based DIY installation <http://download.iiab.io/6.6/> much more reliable and Much More Understandable over the past year. In short, iiab-install runs these 9+1 stages:* https://github.com/iiab/iiab/blob/master/iiab-stages.yml The details of these 9+1 stages are here: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/tree/master/roles Ansible's many advances across versions 2.4.x, 2.5.x and now 2.6.x (and a few regressions along the way over the past year, to make this all possible) have made for refreshingly little blowback at all over the past week — as I've been testing the Ansible 2.6 family or release candidates and now final release — *without experiencing a single Ansible problem on Raspbian or Ubuntu 18.04 to date!* PS keep the best questions coming, so we can publish more to http://FAQ.IIAB.IO every month, in service to all~ _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 6.5 Released!
> willing to stand up to make this happen. > > Do join our regular community calls restarting in June — supporting each > other bringing educators' and technologists' best ideas together — most > every week Mondays and Thursdays @ http://MINUTES.IIAB.IO > > -- > <http://MINUTES.IIAB.IO> > <http://MINUTES.IIAB.IO> > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ <http://MINUTES.IIAB.IO> > http://unleashkids.org ! > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 6.5 Released!
Internet-in-a-Box is a tiny device that brings the best of the Internet to offline communities around the world — Wikipedia, Khan Academy, OpenStreetMap, YouTube science videos, thousands of eBooks, etc — no Internet required! No longer just a school server, Internet-in-a-Box is now used in medical clinics in some of the most remote parts of the earth. Profound thanks to the huge number of contributors who've made Internet-in-a-Box 6.5 our best yet. It's a real breakthrough release already being used in schools around the world — broadly in Mexico, Peru, Haiti, among others — and in growing number of healthcare contexts, especially in India. This release brings many new library fabrication tools to DIY curators (DIY librarians) who have only the most basic familiarity with GNU/Linux: IIAB 6.5 Release Notes https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.5-Release-Notes Anyone who wants to build their own digital library can now try our 1-line installers for Raspberry Pi 3 (and 3 B+), Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and Debian 9 here: (CentOS 7.5 support is highly experimental, if you can help!) IIAB 6.5 Download/Install http://download.iiab.io/6.5 Then you can install civilization's highest-quality open content, using easily-downloadable Content Packs, before you install Internet-in-a-Box in a more fully offline environment. Choose from Kiwix (ZIM files) <http://wiki.kiwix.org/wiki/Content_in_all_languages>, OER2GO/RACHEL <http://oer2go.org/>, Project Gutenberg <http://www.gutenberg.org/>, WikiHow <https://www.wikihow.com/> for teens, or choose a Cuban Encyclopedia <https://www.ecured.cu/> if you prefer! All this is made easy using Internet-in-a-Box's *Admin Console* (typically http://box/admin) whose more advanced capabilities are documented herein: http://FAQ.IIAB.IO It was a long road over 8 months of software development, field testing and even more intensive QA! But Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) 6.5 brings many revolutionary advances, e.g. teachers can now edit ebooks' details in Calibre 3.23 <https://calibre-ebook.com/whats-new>, fixing description translations and assigning ratings most suitable to their own school. *Profound thanks to all building out the world's 21st Century Developing World Libraries AKA Sneakernet-of-Alexandria, as we take the next steps now together...* *Time to Enlighten Democracy?* Civilization’s greatest medical and education sites are next, for 8 billion hungry minds. We invite humanitarian hackers, NGOs and publishers to our OFF.NETWORK hackathons — transforming mind-opening websites — into amazing offline learning packs. Also let's finalize our new vector-based approach to OpenStreetMap <https://github.com/iiab/iiab-factory/pull/32> in offline libraries, bringing a highly-compressed map of the entire world into almost everyone hands. (None of which possible just a decade ago, when we began as One Laptop Per Child’s school server!) *Time to Democratize the Enlightenment?* Local educators then use these learning packs to build up their region’s redistributable Internet-in-a-Box — unleashing grassroots “fieldback” for their very own Libraries of Alexandria — of the people, by the people, for the people… Let's bring together as many of these grassroots/offline innovators as possible later in 2018, as we did in August 2017 with financial support from the Wikipedia Foundation and Learning Equality (KA Lite, Kolibri). Please get in touch ASAP those who can make it to this important UX summit and content hackathon, likely to take place in the US or Canada, around October or November! *Time to Make it Real, Unleashing Your Own Community Today?* Some of us will be working with schools in Chiapas, Mexico next week doing exactly that. We hope you too build a Little Library of Alexandria, customizing it for the needs and challenges of your very own neighborhood. THANK YOU To All who believe in libraries for this entire planet, and are willing to stand up to make this happen. Do join our regular community calls restarting in June — supporting each other bringing educators' and technologists' best ideas together — most every week Mondays and Thursdays @ http://MINUTES.IIAB.IO _______________ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Fwd: IIAB 6.5 Release Candidate 6!
Thanks Jerry & Tim who've now included support for Ubuntu 18.04 static (non-live) installers as well -- details @ PR #805 <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/pull/805> (Necessary for pre-formatted drives, as Ubuntu 18.04/Server's live installer does not handle pre-existing partitions etc) Download/Install: http://download.iiab.io/6.5/ Many new explanations/links to FAQ.IIAB.IO & Install Doc "how tos" are now in-lined within our *near-final draft* release notes! IIAB 6.5 Release Notes https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.5-Release-Notes _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 6.5 Release Candidate 4
Moodle 3.5 LTS was released on git 6 hours ago...2 years after Moodle 3.1 LTS...and is now part of Internet-in-a-Box 6.5! Thanks all for kicking the tires, before our own big IIAB 6.5 release <https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.5-Release-Notes> very shortly: Privacy, Better Quizzes, Faster And Modern: The Latest Scoop On Moodle 3.5 https://www.moodlenews.com/2018/privacy-better-quizzes-faster-and-modern-the-latest-scoop-on-moodle-3-5/ On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2018, 9:48 PM Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > >> Please test the living hell out [of] it before it will very likely be >> released Thursday (-: >> >>http://download.iiab.io/6.5 >> >> Draft release notes: >> >>https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.5-Release-Notes >> > > Above document was greatly revised overnight. (Further revisions or > suggestions?) > > Amazing progress thanks to Jerry, Tim & George in recent days!! >> > -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] [Announcement] Sugarizer v1.0 is available for your device
Thanks Lionel !! I'm hoping George has time to integrate this into Internet-in-a-Box 6.5 today! But if not, we'll try to make it happen tomorrow, just in time for Our Big Release (ETA Late Thursday, Preview @ http://download.iiab.io/6.5 :) -- Forwarded message - From: Lionel Laské <lionel.la...@gmail.com> Date: Tue, May 15, 2018, 3:54 PM Subject: [UKids] [Announcement] Sugarizer v1.0 is available for your device To: Sugar-dev Devel <sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org>, iaep < i...@lists.sugarlabs.org>, unleashk...@googlegroups.com < unleashk...@googlegroups.com>, OLPC Devel <de...@lists.laptop.org> Hi all, I'm proud to announce the version 1.0 of Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar for any device. http://sugarizer.org Finally, five years after the start of the development and after 9 beta versions, Sugarizer is now officially released. Added to activities and features that you enjoyed in beta versions, in this version you will find: - Login Screen: Secure your connection to the server with a login and an unique password image. - Journal synchronization: You will never lost your work again. Let's connect to a Sugarizer Server and your journal will be automatically synchronized on the server. So you will retrieve your work on your tablet, browser or laptop in the same state you left it. - Stability: Hours of testing has been done and tens of issues has been fixed in this version both in Sugarizer core and activities. You will have in your hand the more stable Sugarizer version ever. - Standalone Server: No need to change settings of your web server to deploy Sugarizer Server. Thanks to nodejs, Sugarizer Server works now as a stand alone server. It's also separated from the Client to simplify deployment and maintenance. - Dashboard: The ultimate tool to handle a Sugarizer Server deployment is now here. Inspect users, activities, journals and follow more than 10 graphs and indicators (top users, top activities, % active users, average journal size, …) to have a total understanding of what happens on your Sugarizer deployment. - Security and privacy: With a password image to access to your content, a full HTTPS support and privacy options in settings, your privacy is a top priority in Sugarizer. - Scratch activity: It's not a dream, the little cat is now directly integrated in Sugarizer like Turtle, Jappy and Etoys. Learning how to program has never been so simple with Sugarizer. - Fototoon activity: The famous Sugar activity is now into Sugarizer. Use your pictures, your drawing or images from Abecedarium database to create in few minutes an amazing comic strip to share with your friends. - Game of Life activity: A game to observe and explore how cells interacts and evolves generation after generation. - Flip activity: A simple strategy game where you flip "coins" in order to get all of them with the same side up. - Activity Development Tutorial: What if you decide to create yourself an activity? In a 4 hours tutorial you will learn all you need to know to explore Sugar UI, Journal, Localization and Presence. A short animation of these features is visible here: https://sugarizer.org/download/Sugarizer_v1.0.gif With the version 1.0, Sugarizer is now ready for your next deployment. Sugarizer 1.0 is available on your browser [1] but also for your Android, iOS and Windows device. Download it from : Google Play [2], Amazon Store [3], Apple Store [4], Chrome Web Store [5], F-droid [6], Windows Store [7] and if you don't like stores, you could also install it by yourself using instructions on the Sugarizer website [8]. On Android, Sugarizer could also replace your launcher with Sugarizer OS [9]. And if you want to deploy Sugarizer Server for your school, follow instructions here [10]. Lionel. P.S.: Special thanks for their contribution on this version to Tarun Kumar Singhal (Dashboard), Emily Ong (Scratch activity), Gonzalo Odiard (Fototoon activity), Sanatan Kumar (Game of Life activity), Euan Ong (Flip activity), Christoph Derndorfer (German localization), Paulo Francisco Slomp/Victor Takaki (FoodChain Portuguese) and to all GCI students for testing. [1] http://try.sugarizer.org [2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.olpc_france.sugarizer [3] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NKK7PZA [4] https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sugarizer/id978495303 [5] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sugarizer/omfgclgehghdlloggibhgicnlldjiboo [6] https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.olpc_france.sugarizer [7] https://www.microsoft.com/store/apps/9nblggh4r782 [8] http://sugarizer.org [9] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.olpc_france.sugarizeros [10] https://github.com/llaske/sugarizer-server ___________ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@
Re: [Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 6.5 Release Candidate 4
On Mon, May 14, 2018, 9:48 PM Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > Please test the living hell out [of] it before it will very likely be > released Thursday (-: > >http://download.iiab.io/6.5 > > Draft release notes: > >https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.5-Release-Notes > Above document was greatly revised overnight. (Further revisions or suggestions?) Amazing progress thanks to Jerry, Tim & George in recent days!! > ___________ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 6.5 Release Candidate 4
Please test the living hell out it before it will very likely be released Thursday (-: http://download.iiab.io/6.5 Draft release notes: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.5-Release-Notes Amazing progress thanks to Jerry, Tim & George in recent days!! ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: Error When installing IIAB 6.5 on RPI
On Fri, May 11, 2018, 2:42 PM Joshua Kanani <kanani.jos...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am running *http://download.iiab.io/6.5/load-big-vpn.txt > <http://download.iiab.io/6.5/load-big-vpn.txt>* though i had the same > problem running http://download.iiab.io/6.5/load-vpn.txt > > The hardware is pi model 3B and am using Ethernet for my internet uplink > > Result for *apt Update* -> > https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/F46q0oLLF6a5naJZtAKc4g > > Result for *apt -a list ansible dirmngr * -> ansible/stable 2.2.1.0-2 > all > > > dirmngr/stable,now 2.1.18-8~deb9u1 armhf [installed] > > > > Result for *cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/iiab-**ansible.list* -> deb > http://ppa.launchpad.net/ansible/ansible/ubuntu xenial main > > Result of running *apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com > <http://keyserver.ubuntu.com> --recv-keys 93C4A3FD7BB9C367* > Executing: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.E1jsqafhqX/gpg.1.sh > --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 93C4A3FD7BB9C367 > gpg: keyserver receive failed: Connection timed out > This confirms an Internet/hosting/mirroring failure of some kind, as I just reconfirmed the exact same command "*apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <http://keyserver.ubuntu.com/> --recv-keys 93C4A3FD7BB9C367*" works for me in Raspbian Lite. *Clarif: I deleted my prior key to be 100% sure, using "apt-key del 7BB9C367"* Consider another ISP using your phone's data plan or a friend's home if possible? (Or install Ansible 2.5.2 in some other way if you choose!) On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > >> On Fri, May 11, 2018, 1:55 PM Joshua Kanani <kanani.jos...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hey guys, i keep getting this annoying error when installing IIAB on >>> Raspbian. Am using the 2018-04-18 stretch lite version. Any thoughts >>> >>> Executing: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.DlkMTdFv2W/gpg.1.sh --keyserver >>> keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 93C4A3FD7BB9C367 >>> gpg: keyserver receive failed: Connection timed out >>> >> >> This error is arising as /opt/iiab/iiab/scripts/ansible tries to install >> Ansible 2.5.2 >> >> What exact script are you running from http://download.iiab.io/6.5 ? >> >> What exact hardware and Internet uplink (Ethernet? WiFi?) are you using? >> >> Please paste in the results of running these 3 commands: >> >> >> apt update; apt -a list ansible dirmngr >> >> cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/iiab-ansible.list >> >> apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 93C4A3FD7BB9C367 >> >>> > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Error When installing IIAB 6.5 on RPI
General Aside: you will always make your life easier by removing prior versions of Ansible, if a prior version of Ansible exists on the computer where you will be installing IIAB. As documented in the long-term installation instructions, under Item 5. here: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-Installation#do-everything-from-scratch *In short: verify you have Ansible 2.5.2+ installed (use "ansible --version") before you begin the meat of the installation...that is if the 1-line install scripts at http://download.iiab.io/6.5 <http://download.iiab.io/6.5> don't take care of everything!* On Fri, May 11, 2018, 2:13 PM Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2018, 1:55 PM Joshua Kanani <kanani.jos...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hey guys, i keep getting this annoying error when installing IIAB on >> Raspbian. Am using the 2018-04-18 stretch lite version. Any thoughts >> >> Executing: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.DlkMTdFv2W/gpg.1.sh --keyserver >> keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 93C4A3FD7BB9C367 >> gpg: keyserver receive failed: Connection timed out >> > > This error is arising as /opt/iiab/iiab/scripts/ansible tries to install > Ansible 2.5.2 > > What exact script are you running from http://download.iiab.io/6.5 ? > > What exact hardware and Internet uplink (Ethernet? WiFi?) are you using? > > Please paste in the results of running these 3 commands: > > > apt update; apt -a list ansible dirmngr > > cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/iiab-ansible.list > > apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 93C4A3FD7BB9C367 > >> _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Error When installing IIAB 6.5 on RPI
On Fri, May 11, 2018, 1:55 PM Joshua Kanani <kanani.jos...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey guys, i keep getting this annoying error when installing IIAB on > Raspbian. Am using the 2018-04-18 stretch lite version. Any thoughts > > Executing: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.DlkMTdFv2W/gpg.1.sh --keyserver > keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 93C4A3FD7BB9C367 > gpg: keyserver receive failed: Connection timed out > This error is arising as /opt/iiab/iiab/scripts/ansible tries to install Ansible 2.5.2 What exact script are you running from http://download.iiab.io/6.5 ? What exact hardware and Internet uplink (Ethernet? WiFi?) are you using? Please paste in the results of running these 3 commands: apt update; apt -a list ansible dirmngr cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/iiab-ansible.list apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 93C4A3FD7BB9C367 > ___________ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 6.5 RC3 released!
Thanks especially to Blondel Mondésir in Haiti, who provided amazingly valuable feedback on IIAB 6.5 RC2 earlier this week, which Jerry Vonau (especially, and others!) used to polish our installation process for RC3 on Ubuntu 18.04 Server *and* 18.04 Desktop! Download & install IIAB 6.5 Release Candidate 3 here: http://download.iiab.io/6.5/ DRAFT Release Notes: https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.5-Release-Notes Of course Raspbian is our dominant platform as Raspberry Pi's begin to spread quite massively, but...*Great News several volunteers have now begun basic testing of IIAB 6.5/master on LTS OS's like Debian 9.4 and CentOS 7.5 too...*just in time for our final release next week...see you Monday or Thursday those who can join our http://minutes.iiab.io community calls! ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Internet-in-a-Box 6.5 Release Candidate 2
On Mon, May 7, 2018, 2:56 AM Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > Thanks EVERYONE for the extremely hard work over 7+ months, culminating in > this major Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) accomplishment we hope to release in > coming days! > > IIAB 6.5 Release Candidate 2 has its 1-line installers here: > >http://download.iiab.io/6.5/ > > IIAB 6.5 Release Notes: (DRAFT) > >https://github.com/iiab/iiab/wiki/IIAB-6.5-Release-Notes > > Special Request: testing is extremely solid on Raspbian and Ubuntu 18.04 > -- *where we could definitely use testing help is on Debian 9.4* -- and > also on CentOS 7.5 when that's released in coming weeks :) > CentOS 7.5 ISO's (images) are today beginning to circulate, if you know where to look: https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=47=65681 > ___________ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 129, Issue 9
What is the impact of this approach on internet dependence? The main problem I have is to create an offline service with content. This has led to the creation of 'bernie', a copy of the schoolserver on an external 1TB drive. There are, of course, many problems with dependencies. I view resolving these as the task in making bernie. I am not sure what is meant about cross contamination. There are many duploicates in the current bernie - for example, Rachel includes a sizable number of items from the Gutenberg project as does OLE Nepal's Pustakalaya. There is enough hard drive space so this duplication is no problem. Tony On Tuesday, 01 May, 2018 12:00 AM, server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: Send Server-devel mailing list submissions to server-devel@lists.laptop.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org You can reach the person managing the list at server-devel-ow...@lists.laptop.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Server-devel digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Provisioning services (Sameer Verma) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 10:29:08 -0700 From: Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu> To: xsce-devel <xsce-de...@googlegroups.com>, XS Devel <server-devel@lists.laptop.org>, Andreas Gros <andigro...@gmail.com>, Aaron Borden <adbor...@live.com> Subject: [Server-devel] Provisioning services Message-ID: <cafogk8gvojzvp1mcdvurqo_33anwcfy0hsbnjbowclmwjmu...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Greetings! I haven't written to this list in a while. I am working with some other OLPC-SF members to package and make available Pathagar using the snaps (http://snapcraft.io platform). We are currently doing this as part of a two-day hackathon (http://hackathon.sfsu.edu/challenges/snap-ify-pathagar). Of course, the work continues past this hackathon, but let's see how far we can get today. Right now, we are using the NextCloud snap (https://github.com/nextcloud/nextcloud-snap) as a base example and adding/removing to it to see if we can put together a snap. If you haven't used snaps before, try it out the NextCloud snap. On Ubuntu/Debian, try "sudo snap install nextcloud" Give it a few minutes, and when installed go to http:// and it should be there. Our proposal and approach is to first do this with Pathagar, and then see if we can do this with all the other services on the school server. This will give deploymentw a menu approach to adding services without worrying about dependencies and cross-contamination and such. It's a little bit more work to architect services that do talk to each other, but we think that in the end it's a much cleaner solution. Ideas? Comments? Please let us know. Andi Gros, Aaron Borden and myself are working on this currently. cheers, Sameer _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Provisioning services
Greetings! I haven't written to this list in a while. I am working with some other OLPC-SF members to package and make available Pathagar using the snaps (http://snapcraft.io platform). We are currently doing this as part of a two-day hackathon (http://hackathon.sfsu.edu/challenges/snap-ify-pathagar). Of course, the work continues past this hackathon, but let's see how far we can get today. Right now, we are using the NextCloud snap (https://github.com/nextcloud/nextcloud-snap) as a base example and adding/removing to it to see if we can put together a snap. If you haven't used snaps before, try it out the NextCloud snap. On Ubuntu/Debian, try "sudo snap install nextcloud" Give it a few minutes, and when installed go to http:// and it should be there. Our proposal and approach is to first do this with Pathagar, and then see if we can do this with all the other services on the school server. This will give deploymentw a menu approach to adding services without worrying about dependencies and cross-contamination and such. It's a little bit more work to architect services that do talk to each other, but we think that in the end it's a much cleaner solution. Ideas? Comments? Please let us know. Andi Gros, Aaron Borden and myself are working on this currently. cheers, Sameer -- Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Professor, Information Systems San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 08:26:27PM -0400, Adam Holt wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:17 PM, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > without deleting the identity > key the activity collaboration feature will fail in strange ways. > > What's the identity key, and how is it deleted? A cryptographic identitifier of the Sugar user, randomly created at first boot and stored in files; .sugar/default/owner.key and .sugar/default/owner.key.pub Delete it using rm, as it says here; http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Imaging/Side_effects "Otherwise the cloned laptops won't be able to collaborate using activities, or the wrong names will be shown in Chat," -- James Cameron http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___________ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 08:26:27PM -0400, Adam Holt wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:17 PM, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > without deleting the identity > key the activity collaboration feature will fail in strange ways. > > What's the identity key, and how is it deleted? A cryptographic identitifier of the Sugar user, randomly created at first boot and stored in files; .sugar/default/owner.key and .sugar/default/owner.key.pub Delete it using rm, as it says here; http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Imaging/Side_effects "Otherwise the cloned laptops won't be able to collaborate using activities, or the wrong names will be shown in Chat," -- James Cameron http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:17 PM, James Cameronwrote: > without deleting the identity > key the activity collaboration feature will fail in strange ways. > What's the identity key, and how is it deleted? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:17 PM, James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > without deleting the identity > key the activity collaboration feature will fail in strange ways. > What's the identity key, and how is it deleted? _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?
Which things are truly important depend on the circumstances, and only the teacher will know. For instance, without deleting the identity key the activity collaboration feature will fail in strange ways. On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 07:07:09PM -0400, Adam Holt wrote: > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Adam Holt <[1]h...@laptop.org> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Tony Anderson <[2]tony_ander...@usa.net> > wrote: > > A teacher should never 'rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar'. If the intent is to > remove the Journal because of space considerations, 'rm -rf > /home/olpc/ > sugar/datastore' is sufficient. After this command the XO needs to be > rebooted to create a new empty datastore. > > > 'rm -rf /home/olpc/sugar/datastore' is not sufficient to accomplish the > required task (deleting the child's Sugar name). > > 'rm /home/olpc/.sugar' is the only way we know. (Unless there's a better > approach ?) > > There are many similar suggestions here: > > [3]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Imaging/Side_effects > > Which of the above are truly important for a teacher to type in at the > beginning of the semester, to clean out Sugar on an XO. > > Teachers much prefer something very short like "rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar" > (unless there's a better way?) > > PS Naturally Gnome is not as easy to clean out, if students have left MP3's > and > personal files lying around! > > References: > > [1] mailto:h...@laptop.org > [2] mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net > [3] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Imaging/Side_effects > _______ > Server-devel mailing list > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- James Cameron http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?
Which things are truly important depend on the circumstances, and only the teacher will know. For instance, without deleting the identity key the activity collaboration feature will fail in strange ways. On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 07:07:09PM -0400, Adam Holt wrote: > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Adam Holt <[1]h...@laptop.org> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Tony Anderson <[2]tony_ander...@usa.net> > wrote: > > A teacher should never 'rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar'. If the intent is to > remove the Journal because of space considerations, 'rm -rf > /home/olpc/ > sugar/datastore' is sufficient. After this command the XO needs to be > rebooted to create a new empty datastore. > > > 'rm -rf /home/olpc/sugar/datastore' is not sufficient to accomplish the > required task (deleting the child's Sugar name). > > 'rm /home/olpc/.sugar' is the only way we know. (Unless there's a better > approach ?) > > There are many similar suggestions here: > > [3]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Imaging/Side_effects > > Which of the above are truly important for a teacher to type in at the > beginning of the semester, to clean out Sugar on an XO. > > Teachers much prefer something very short like "rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar" > (unless there's a better way?) > > PS Naturally Gnome is not as easy to clean out, if students have left MP3's > and > personal files lying around! > > References: > > [1] mailto:h...@laptop.org > [2] mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net > [3] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Imaging/Side_effects > _______ > Server-devel mailing list > server-de...@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- James Cameron http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?
OLPC OS on the XO is configured for ownership style "one laptop per child". If you always want to delete the child's Sugar name, you might either change login scripts to delete it before starting, or assume a default. It simplifies getting started into a class. e.g. in the OLPC OS 16.04 live build on the NL3, we have this in /usr/bin/sugar; gsettings set org.sugarlabs.user nick 'You' gsettings set org.sugarlabs.user gender '' gsettings set org.sugarlabs.user birth-timestamp 689659403 gsettings set org.sugarlabs.user group-label 'Adult' gsettings set org.sugarlabs.user color '#808080,#c0c0c0' gconftool-2 --set /desktop/sugar/user/color --type string '#808080,#c0c0c0' gconftool-2 --set /desktop/sugar/user/nick --type string 'You' On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 06:58:11PM -0400, Adam Holt wrote: > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Tony Anderson <[1]tony_ander...@usa.net> > wrote: > > A teacher should never 'rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar'. If the intent is to > remove the Journal because of space considerations, 'rm -rf /home/olpc/ > sugar/datastore' is sufficient. After this command the XO needs to be > rebooted to create a new empty datastore. > > 'rm -rf /home/olpc/sugar/datastore' is not sufficient to accomplish the > required task (deleting the child's Sugar name). > > 'rm /home/olpc/.sugar' is the only way we know. (Unless there's a better > approach ?) > > References: > > [1] mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net > ___ > Devel mailing list > de...@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- James Cameron http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?
On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> > wrote: > >> A teacher should never 'rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar'. If the intent is to >> remove the Journal because of space considerations, 'rm -rf >> /home/olpc/sugar/datastore' is sufficient. After this command the XO needs >> to be rebooted to create a new empty datastore. >> > > 'rm -rf /home/olpc/sugar/datastore' is not sufficient to accomplish the > required task (deleting the child's Sugar name). > > 'rm /home/olpc/.sugar' is the only way we know. *(Unless there's a > better approach ?)* > There are many similar suggestions here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Imaging/Side_effects Which of the above are truly important for a teacher to type in at the beginning of the semester, to clean out Sugar on an XO. Teachers much prefer something very short like "rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar" (unless there's a better way?) PS Naturally Gnome is not as easy to clean out, if students have left MP3's and personal files lying around! ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: > A teacher should never 'rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar'. If the intent is to > remove the Journal because of space considerations, 'rm -rf > /home/olpc/sugar/datastore' is sufficient. After this command the XO needs > to be rebooted to create a new empty datastore. > 'rm -rf /home/olpc/sugar/datastore' is not sufficient to accomplish the required task (deleting the child's Sugar name). 'rm /home/olpc/.sugar' is the only way we know. *(Unless there's a better approach ?)* _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?
; > *Apologies there are serious electrical problems in Haiti where we're > working, so it's very tough to fully research this online!* > -- > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Unleash Kids" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to unleashkids+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Unleash Kids" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to unleashkids+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 10:08 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > Is building an .xol bundle/collection/file (containing all the PDF's) the > easiest way? What's the easiest way to build up an .xol of PDF's if so? > Thanks to Jerry Vonau who replied: "If you are looking to have the pdfs show up in the ring of activities then creating a .xol is required . Think you would need to launch the browser to see the content ... see http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Content_bundles. However the pdfs should be able to be viewable in the browser with file://some/path/test.pdf, check if that works first. You might just be able to have the .xol's index.html contain the file://path as a point to the pdf file. Hope that helps. " Presumably by then installing the .xol in Sugar -> Terminal Activity as > follows? > >sugar-install-bundle /run/media/olpc// > > Or is there much better ways to "permanently" install a large number of > PDF's onto Sugar across a large number of XO laptops? Or should we use > Gnome instead of Sugar, if there's a much better way? Sugar's Browse > Activity is preferred (faster, lightweight) but Firefox 26.0 is also > installed if absolutely necessary, in case either are needed instead of > Sugar's Read Activity. > > CLARIF: The job will be done using USB memory sticks, walking from one XO > laptop to the next, to install all these PDF's. > > CLARIF: We want the PDF's to remain on the XO laptops even after the > teacher types in "rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar" to clean out personal files > from Sugar on each laptop, which typically happens at the beginning of each > semester. > > CLARIF: A Sugar icon within the Sugar wheel would be a bonus, but any > other method of finding this content within 3-to-5 clicks from Sugar's Home > View can work Ok! > > CLARIF: these books need to be on the XO laptops themselves, as servers > like IIAB are *not* always present. > > > > > *Apologies there are serious electrical problems in Haiti where we're > working, so it's very tough to fully research this online!-- Unsung Heroes > of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org <http://unleashkids.org> > ! * > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?
Is building an .xol bundle/collection/file (containing all the PDF's) the easiest way? What's the easiest way to build up an .xol of PDF's if so? Presumably by then installing the .xol in Sugar -> Terminal Activity as follows? sugar-install-bundle /run/media/olpc// Or is there much better ways to "permanently" install a large number of PDF's onto Sugar across a large number of XO laptops? Or should we use Gnome instead of Sugar, if there's a much better way? Sugar's Browse Activity is preferred (faster, lightweight) but Firefox 26.0 is also installed if absolutely necessary, in case either are needed instead of Sugar's Read Activity. CLARIF: The job will be done using USB memory sticks, walking from one XO laptop to the next, to install all these PDF's. CLARIF: We want the PDF's to remain on the XO laptops even after the teacher types in "rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar" to clean out personal files from Sugar on each laptop, which typically happens at the beginning of each semester. CLARIF: A Sugar icon within the Sugar wheel would be a bonus, but any other method of finding this content within 3-to-5 clicks from Sugar's Home View can work Ok! CLARIF: these books need to be on the XO laptops themselves, as servers like IIAB are *not* always present. *Apologies there are serious electrical problems in Haiti where we're working, so it's very tough to fully research this online!* _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] do RPi 3 B+ still need heat sinks?
nt to the previous > version, and this invalidates your test method. The system uses > thermal mass and core frequency scaling, and you've changed the > thermal mass. It's non-linear. > > Report your kernel version; the corresponding Raspbian release has > changes for the B+. > > Kernel is 4.14.30-v7+ after 2018-03-28's Raspbian update ("apt update; apt > dist-upgrade; reboot"). > > See > > [7]https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-3-model-bplus-sale-now-35/ > for more technical detail on the thermals; note how the core frequency > varies and the thermal mass is a resource. > > Suggest you use sysbench for at least 15 minutes before reading the > temperature. The "yes" test is very weak. > > Thanks. Any recommended parameters for sysbench to battle-test all RPi 3 B+ > subsystems simultaneously? No. You made reference to an article that gave a method; try that? http://www.bestofjay.com/w/raspberry-pi-3-overclock-heat-test-flirc-case-vs-canakit-heatsink/ > > FWIW these same heatsinks do lower the temperature of the original RPi 3 > by > > many degrees IF the CPU 's under medium load AND the top of the plastic > case is > > removed :) > > But irrelevant, as the CPU is a different model, has a flat surface, > and does not have a thermal control system that uses thermal mass. > > Please remember; things change, and this breaks your knowledge. You > must learn again. > > > > > > In any case: this result is completely different the original RPi > 3 > > (where past > > > experiments have shown that a heatsink-on-CPU greatly lowers its > > temperature, > > > When The Case Is Open!) > > > > > > > > > CONCLUSION: the RPi 3 B+ appears to be a real winner in > CPU-intensive > > > conditions, even in a "wintry" conditions (room is about 15C, > and it > > > continues to snow right outside the window). The RPi 3 CPU is > > supposed to > > > self-throttle at 80C, until it just about turns itself off at > 85C. > > I'd > > > assume the RPi 3 B+ CPU does the same? But do not know for > sure. > > Thanks > > > to all who can add any similar data points, in warmer climate/ > > conditions. > > > > > > CLARIFS: Both RPi's were running a near-final prerelease of > > > Internet-in-a-Box 6.5 on Raspbian Lite to explore real-world > > conditions. > > > I waited 10+ min in all above 8 experiments before taking > "steady > > state" > > > temp readings. Still, fluctuations in CPU activity (and > temperature) > > > arise, even long after I ran "killall yes" to end the most > intensive > > CPU > > > activity. > > > > > > 3) Prelim thermal analysis of RPi 3 B+: > > > > > > [3][6][8]https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/ > 1*0jU89Yu_ > > 6miI-CODB > > > MuHAw.png > > > [4][7][9]https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the- > > raspberry-pi > > > -3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > > > > > > -- > > > [5] > > > [6]Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ [7][8]http:// > > [10]unleashkids.org > > > ! > > > > > > -- > > > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ [8][9]http:// > > [11]unleashkids.org ! > > > > > > > > > References: > > > > > > [1] mailto:[10][12]h...@laptop.org > > > [2] mailto:[11][13]h...@laptop.org > > > [3] [12][14]https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*0jU89Yu_ > 6miI- > > CODBMuHAw.png > > > [4] [13][15]https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the- > > raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > > > [5] [14][16]https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the- > > raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > > > [6] [15][17]https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the- > > raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 &
Re: [Server-devel] do RPi 3 B+ still need heat sinks?
ow the core frequency > varies and the thermal mass is a resource. > > Suggest you use sysbench for at least 15 minutes before reading the > temperature. The "yes" test is very weak. > Thanks. Any recommended parameters for sysbench to battle-test all RPi 3 B+ subsystems simultaneously? > FWIW these same heatsinks do lower the temperature of the original RPi 3 > by > > many degrees IF the CPU 's under medium load AND the top of the plastic > case is > > removed :) > > But irrelevant, as the CPU is a different model, has a flat surface, > and does not have a thermal control system that uses thermal mass. > > Please remember; things change, and this breaks your knowledge. You > must learn again. > > > > > > In any case: this result is completely different the original RPi 3 > > (where past > > > experiments have shown that a heatsink-on-CPU greatly lowers its > > temperature, > > > When The Case Is Open!) > > > > > > > > > CONCLUSION: the RPi 3 B+ appears to be a real winner in > CPU-intensive > > > conditions, even in a "wintry" conditions (room is about 15C, > and it > > > continues to snow right outside the window). The RPi 3 CPU is > > supposed to > > > self-throttle at 80C, until it just about turns itself off at > 85C. > > I'd > > > assume the RPi 3 B+ CPU does the same? But do not know for > sure. > > Thanks > > > to all who can add any similar data points, in warmer climate/ > > conditions. > > > > > > CLARIFS: Both RPi's were running a near-final prerelease of > > > Internet-in-a-Box 6.5 on Raspbian Lite to explore real-world > > conditions. > > > I waited 10+ min in all above 8 experiments before taking > "steady > > state" > > > temp readings. Still, fluctuations in CPU activity (and > temperature) > > > arise, even long after I ran "killall yes" to end the most > intensive > > CPU > > > activity. > > > > > > 3) Prelim thermal analysis of RPi 3 B+: > > > > > > [3][6]https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*0jU89Yu_ > > 6miI-CODB > > > MuHAw.png > > > [4][7]https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the- > > raspberry-pi > > > -3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > > > > > > -- > > > [5] > > > [6]Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ [7][8]http:// > > unleashkids.org > > > ! > > > > > > -- > > > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ [8][9]http:// > > unleashkids.org ! > > > > > > > > > References: > > > > > > [1] mailto:[10]h...@laptop.org > > > [2] mailto:[11]h...@laptop.org > > > [3] [12]https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*0jU89Yu_6miI- > > CODBMuHAw.png > > > [4] [13]https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the- > > raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > > > [5] [14]https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the- > > raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > > > [6] [15]https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the- > > raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > > > [7] [16]http://unleashkids.org/ > > > [8] [17]http://unleashkids.org/ > > > > > ___ > > > Server-devel mailing list > > > [18]Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > > > [19]http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > > > > -- > > James Cameron > > [20]http://quozl.netrek.org/ > > ___ > > Server-devel mailing list > > [21]Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > > [22]http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > > > > -- > > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ [23]http://unleashkids.org ! > > > > References: > > > > [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > [2] mailto:h...@laptop.org > > [3] mailto:h...@laptop.org > > [4] http://www.bestofjay.com/w/raspberry-pi-3-overclock-heat- > test-flirc-case-vs-canakit-heatsink/ > > [5] http://11986-presscdn-0-77.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp- > content/uploads/2016/04/heat-sinks-installed.jpg > > [6] https://cdn-images-
Re: [Server-devel] do RPi 3 B+ still need heat sinks?
e Case Is Open!) > > > > > > CONCLUSION: the RPi 3 B+ appears to be a real winner in > CPU-intensive > > conditions, even in a "wintry" conditions (room is about 15C, and it > > continues to snow right outside the window). The RPi 3 CPU is > supposed to > > self-throttle at 80C, until it just about turns itself off at 85C. > I'd > > assume the RPi 3 B+ CPU does the same? But do not know for sure. > Thanks > > to all who can add any similar data points, in warmer climate/ > conditions. > > > > CLARIFS: Both RPi's were running a near-final prerelease of > > Internet-in-a-Box 6.5 on Raspbian Lite to explore real-world > conditions. > > I waited 10+ min in all above 8 experiments before taking "steady > state" > > temp readings. Still, fluctuations in CPU activity (and > temperature) > > arise, even long after I ran "killall yes" to end the most intensive > CPU > > activity. > > > > 3) Prelim thermal analysis of RPi 3 B+: > > > > [3][6]https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*0jU89Yu_ > 6miI-CODB > > MuHAw.png > > [4][7]https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the- > raspberry-pi > > -3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > > > > -- > > [5] > > [6]Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ [7][8]http:// > unleashkids.org > > ! > > > > -- > > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ [8][9]http:// > unleashkids.org ! > > > > > > References: > > > > [1] mailto:[10]h...@laptop.org > > [2] mailto:[11]h...@laptop.org > > [3] [12]https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*0jU89Yu_6miI- > CODBMuHAw.png > > [4] [13]https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the- > raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > > [5] [14]https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the- > raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > > [6] [15]https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the- > raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > > [7] [16]http://unleashkids.org/ > > [8] [17]http://unleashkids.org/ > > > ___ > > Server-devel mailing list > > [18]Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > > [19]http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > > -- > James Cameron > [20]http://quozl.netrek.org/ > ___ > Server-devel mailing list > [21]Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > [22]http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > > -- > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ [23]http://unleashkids.org ! > > References: > > [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > [2] mailto:h...@laptop.org > [3] mailto:h...@laptop.org > [4] > http://www.bestofjay.com/w/raspberry-pi-3-overclock-heat-test-flirc-case-vs-canakit-heatsink/ > [5] > http://11986-presscdn-0-77.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/heat-sinks-installed.jpg > [6] https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*0jU89Yu_6miI-CODB > [7] https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the-raspberry-pi > [8] http://unleashkids.org/ > [9] http://unleashkids.org/ > [10] mailto:h...@laptop.org > [11] mailto:h...@laptop.org > [12] https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*0jU89Yu_6miI-CODBMuHAw.png > [13] > https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the-raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > [14] > https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the-raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > [15] > https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the-raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > [16] http://unleashkids.org/ > [17] http://unleashkids.org/ > [18] mailto:Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > [19] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > [20] http://quozl.netrek.org/ > [21] mailto:Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > [22] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > [23] http://unleashkids.org/ > ___ > Server-devel mailing list > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- James Cameron http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] do RPi 3 B+ still need heat sinks?
Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ [8] > http://unleashkids.org ! > > > > > > References: > > > > [1] mailto:h...@laptop.org > > [2] mailto:h...@laptop.org > > [3] https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*0jU89Yu_6miI- > CODBMuHAw.png > > [4] https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the- > raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > > [5] https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the- > raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > > [6] https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the- > raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > > [7] http://unleashkids.org/ > > [8] http://unleashkids.org/ > > > ___ > > Server-devel mailing list > > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.netrek.org/ > ___ > Server-devel mailing list > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] do RPi 3 B+ still need heat sinks?
On Tue, Apr 03, 2018 at 10:33:12AM -0400, Adam Holt wrote: > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Adam Holt <[1]h...@laptop.org> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Adam Holt <[2]h...@laptop.org> wrote: > > 1) Recap from 2016: heatsinks on the original RPi3 CPU are not a > cure-all when the RPi 3 is enclosed in a case that lacks ventilation > on > a hot day. But CPU heatsinks Do Work when taking the plastic top off > the of the original RPi 3. The CPU throttling problem "immediately" > goes away on such hot days...bringing the temperature back down below > 80C...as measured by the command: > > vcgencmd measure_temp > > 2) It's snowing today right outside my window, so I can't easily > simulate a hot summer's day -- but can others who live in hot > environments report back their readings above, when running the new > RPi3 B+ in various conditions? > ☆ With heatsink on CPU -- and without? > ☆ With motherboard fully enclose by a case -- and without? > > My own results, with all 4 CPU's unloaded, in a chilly room: > > RPi 3 with-heatsink-on-CPU / RPi 3 B+ / RPi 3 B+ with-heatsink-on-CPU > 44-46C / 46-48C / 45-47C case's plastic top removed (w/o wind or active > ventilation) > 46-49C / 48-51C / 48-52C case's plastic top attached (contains 100+ small > holes > on 1 end, allowing very little ventilation) > > After I ran "yes > /dev/null &" 4 times, to fully load all 4 cores of the > CPU: > > RPi 3 with-heatsink-on-CPU / RPi 3 B+ / RPi 3 B+ with-heatsink-on-CPU > 80-82C / 70-71C / 71-72C case's plastic top removed (w/o wind or active > ventilation) > 82-84C / 75-78C / 79-82C case's plastic top attached (contains 100+ small > holes > on 1 end, allowing very little ventilation) > > RESULT: attaching a heatsink to the RPi 3 B+ CPU does not help. It might even > make things a bit worse, hmm. Yes, your heatsink is no good. The B+ CPU has a heatsink or heat spreader already, that silver coloured bevelled structure with the black dot and Broadcom logo. What is the shape, size, and attachment method for your added heatsink? > In any case: this result is completely different the original RPi 3 (where > past > experiments have shown that a heatsink-on-CPU greatly lowers its temperature, > When The Case Is Open!) > > > CONCLUSION: the RPi 3 B+ appears to be a real winner in CPU-intensive > conditions, even in a "wintry" conditions (room is about 15C, and it > continues to snow right outside the window). The RPi 3 CPU is supposed to > self-throttle at 80C, until it just about turns itself off at 85C. I'd > assume the RPi 3 B+ CPU does the same? But do not know for sure. Thanks > to all who can add any similar data points, in warmer climate/conditions. > > CLARIFS: Both RPi's were running a near-final prerelease of > Internet-in-a-Box 6.5 on Raspbian Lite to explore real-world conditions. > I waited 10+ min in all above 8 experiments before taking "steady state" > temp readings. Still, fluctuations in CPU activity (and temperature) > arise, even long after I ran "killall yes" to end the most intensive CPU > activity. > > 3) Prelim thermal analysis of RPi 3 B+: > > [3]https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*0jU89Yu_6miI-CODB > MuHAw.png > [4]https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the-raspberry-pi > -3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > > -- > [5] > [6]Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ [7]http://unleashkids.org > ! > > -- > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ [8]http://unleashkids.org ! > > > References: > > [1] mailto:h...@laptop.org > [2] mailto:h...@laptop.org > [3] https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*0jU89Yu_6miI-CODBMuHAw.png > [4] > https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the-raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > [5] > https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the-raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > [6] > https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the-raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 > [7] http://unleashkids.org/ > [8] http://unleashkids.org/ > ___ > Server-devel mailing list > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- James Cameron http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] do RPi 3 B+ still need heat sinks?
On Tue, Apr 03, 2018 at 09:07:22AM -0400, Adam Holt wrote: > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 1:53 AM, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > Temperature readings are not comparable between RPi 3 and RPi 3 B+ > because of throttling differences, and the metal heat spreader. > > Ambient temperature is critical for the separate chip used for > Ethernet and USB; it has a lower maximum operating temperature than > the CPU. > > > Do you happen to know this chip's max operating temperature spec? Only 70 degrees C. http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/ProductCompare/LAN7515/LAN9514 This looks like a binning threshold. Let me spin a story. The manufacturer of the chip tests the operating temperature range using some method, and separates the results into four bins; - operates above 86, into the bin labelled "excellent", - operates above 70 and below 86, into the bin labelled "industrial", - operates above 60 and below 71, into the bin labelled "commercial", - doesn't operate above 70, into the bin labelled "throw away". Then what happens next is often surprising; 1. if a customer orders the industrial version, it will be filled from the "industrial" and then the "excellent" bin, 2. if a customer orders the commercial version, it will be filled from the "commercial", "industrial" and then the "excellent" bins. The chips can be encapsulated and labelled at any time, before or after this binning. So you as customer of customer only knows it will operate to 70, and it might operate to 85. The chip heats from being powered, and from Ethernet and USB activity. The heat from the CPU will bleed across to the chip. In a normal enclosure, this isn't a problem. In a sealed enclosure with no air flow, and high CPU, Ethernet and USB activity, it could be more interesting. It would be reasonably easy to test for; if the CPU temperature does not fall rapidly when activity slows, it is because the board and air nearby has reached equilibrium with the CPU. > Your best comparison will be between timings of equal workloads with > equal cooling in identical environment. > > You can't do this honestly with temperature alone. > > -- > James Cameron > [2]http://quozl.netrek.org/ > _______ > Server-devel mailing list > [3]Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > [4]http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > > -- > [5] > [6]Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ [7]http://unleashkids.org ! > > References: > > [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > [2] http://quozl.netrek.org/ > [3] mailto:Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > [4] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > [5] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > [6] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > [7] http://unleashkids.org/ > _______ > Server-devel mailing list > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- James Cameron http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] do RPi 3 B+ still need heat sinks?
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > >> 1) Recap from 2016: heatsinks on the original RPi3 CPU are not a cure-all >> when the RPi 3 is enclosed in a case that lacks ventilation on a hot day. >> But CPU heatsinks Do Work when taking the plastic top off the of the >> original RPi 3. The CPU throttling problem "immediately" goes away on such >> hot days...bringing the temperature back down below 80C...as measured by >> the command: >> >>*vcgencmd measure_temp* >> >> 2) It's snowing today right outside my window, so I can't easily simulate >> a hot summer's day -- but can others who live in hot environments report >> back their readings above, when running the new RPi3 B+ in various >> conditions? >> >>- *With heatsink on CPU -- and without?* >>- *With motherboard fully enclose by a case -- and without?* >> >> > My own results, with all 4 CPU's unloaded, in a chilly room: > RPi 3 with-heatsink-on-CPU / RPi 3 B+ / RPi 3 B+ with-heatsink-on-CPU 44-46C / 46-48C / 45-47C case's plastic top removed (w/o wind or active ventilation) 46-49C / 48-51C / 48-52C case's plastic top attached (contains 100+ small holes on 1 end, allowing very little ventilation) After I ran "*yes > /dev/null &*" 4 times, to fully load all 4 cores of the > CPU: > RPi 3 with-heatsink-on-CPU / RPi 3 B+ / RPi 3 B+ with-heatsink-on-CPU 80-82C / 70-71C / 71-72C case's plastic top removed (w/o wind or active ventilation) 82-84C / 75-78C / 79-82C case's plastic top attached (contains 100+ small holes on 1 end, allowing very little ventilation) *RESULT: attaching a heatsink to the RPi 3 B+ CPU does not help. It might even make things a bit worse, hmm.* In any case: this result is completely different the original RPi 3 (where past experiments have shown that a heatsink-on-CPU greatly lowers its temperature, When The Case Is Open!) > CONCLUSION: the RPi 3 B+ appears to be a real winner in CPU-intensive > conditions, even in a "wintry" conditions (room is about 15C, and it > continues to snow right outside the window). The RPi 3 CPU is supposed to > self-throttle at 80C, until it just about turns itself off at 85C. I'd > assume the RPi 3 B+ CPU does the same? But do not know for sure. Thanks > to all who can add any similar data points, in warmer climate/conditions. > > > CLARIFS: Both RPi's were running a near-final prerelease of > Internet-in-a-Box 6.5 on Raspbian Lite to explore real-world conditions. > I waited 10+ min in all above 8 experiments before taking "steady state" > temp readings. Still, fluctuations in CPU activity (and temperature) > arise, even long after I ran "killall yes" to end the most intensive CPU > activity. > > > 3) Prelim thermal analysis of RPi 3 B+: >> >> https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*0jU89Yu_6miI-CODBMuHAw.png >> https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the-raspberry-pi >> -3-b-plus-44122cf3d806 >> >> -- >> >> <https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the-raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806> >> >> <https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the-raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806> >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ >> <https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the-raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806> >> http://unleashkids.org ! >> >> -- >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! >> > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] do RPi 3 B+ still need heat sinks?
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 1:53 AM, James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > Temperature readings are not comparable between RPi 3 and RPi 3 B+ > because of throttling differences, and the metal heat spreader. > > Ambient temperature is critical for the separate chip used for > Ethernet and USB; it has a lower maximum operating temperature than > the CPU. > Do you happen to know this chip's max operating temperature spec? Your best comparison will be between timings of equal workloads with > equal cooling in identical environment. > > You can't do this honestly with temperature alone. > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.netrek.org/ > _______ > Server-devel mailing list > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > > -- > <http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel> > <http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel> > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ > <http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel>http://unleashkids.org ! > _______ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel