Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
just generate random 32-ascii-chars password. it should be enough :) On 27.12.2013 18:38, Putze Sven wrote: On 25.12.2013, at 18:49, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: what profit of using long crypted password if you can't remember it or just type, if you keeping your long and crypted password in some text file and pasting it every time you need to reset your mail account? My passwords are not in a plain text file, they are stored in a crypted KeePass file. Someone is creating an app for Jolla, so everything will be fine in future. The profit is of course security: I use different logon credentials for each and every account (not only emails). It's more about not re-using passwords for other accounts, the human brain is quite limited here ;-) And yes, this kind of security (or call it paranoia) comes at a price: inconvenience. BR. Sven P.S. Push2Sail came here to rescue, everything works fine now. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
On 25.12.2013, at 18:49, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: > what profit of using long crypted password if you can't remember it or just > type, if you keeping your long and crypted password in some text file and > pasting it every time you need to reset your mail account? My passwords are not in a plain text file, they are stored in a crypted KeePass file. Someone is creating an app for Jolla, so everything will be fine in future. The profit is of course security: I use different logon credentials for each and every account (not only emails). It's more about not re-using passwords for other accounts, the human brain is quite limited here ;-) And yes, this kind of security (or call it paranoia) comes at a price: inconvenience. BR. Sven P.S. Push2Sail came here to rescue, everything works fine now. > ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
what profit of using long crypted password if you can't remember it or just type, if you keeping your long and crypted password in some text file and pasting it every time you need to reset your mail account? On 25.12.2013 23:44, Sven Putze wrote: Oh, sorry. I am not writing an app. It's just about entering my long and cryptic password in the real device. I hope I don't need to write an app for that ;-) BR. Sven On 25.12.2013, at 18:32, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: system wide or to active window, using QApplication::sendEvent. I didnt tried it to send events to another window, just suggesting different way. On 25.12.2013 23:30, Sven Putze wrote: I din't get that. Emulate keypress where? BR. Sven On 25.12.2013, at 17:39, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: did you tried emulating keypress with char codes? On 25.12.2013 21:57, Sven Putze wrote: On 25.12.2013, at 15:40, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: pasting from clipboard to onscreen keyboard not working? sadly then. Sadly, indeed :-) If only I had something I could copy and paste from... ...I've seen the suggestion from Mikael Hermansson but am not desperate enough to install the app;-) BR. Sven ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
i see. you hope someone did solution for you ;) On 25.12.2013 23:44, Sven Putze wrote: Oh, sorry. I am not writing an app. It's just about entering my long and cryptic password in the real device. I hope I don't need to write an app for that ;-) BR. Sven On 25.12.2013, at 18:32, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: system wide or to active window, using QApplication::sendEvent. I didnt tried it to send events to another window, just suggesting different way. On 25.12.2013 23:30, Sven Putze wrote: I din't get that. Emulate keypress where? BR. Sven On 25.12.2013, at 17:39, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: did you tried emulating keypress with char codes? On 25.12.2013 21:57, Sven Putze wrote: On 25.12.2013, at 15:40, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: pasting from clipboard to onscreen keyboard not working? sadly then. Sadly, indeed :-) If only I had something I could copy and paste from... ...I've seen the suggestion from Mikael Hermansson but am not desperate enough to install the app;-) BR. Sven ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
Oh, sorry. I am not writing an app. It's just about entering my long and cryptic password in the real device. I hope I don't need to write an app for that ;-) BR. Sven On 25.12.2013, at 18:32, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: > system wide or to active window, using QApplication::sendEvent. > I didnt tried it to send events to another window, just suggesting different > way. > > On 25.12.2013 23:30, Sven Putze wrote: >> I din't get that. Emulate keypress where? >> >> BR. >> Sven >> On 25.12.2013, at 17:39, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: >> >>> did you tried emulating keypress with char codes? >>> >>> On 25.12.2013 21:57, Sven Putze wrote: On 25.12.2013, at 15:40, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: > pasting from clipboard to onscreen keyboard not working? sadly then. > Sadly, indeed :-) If only I had something I could copy and paste from... ...I've seen the suggestion from Mikael Hermansson but am not desperate enough to install the app;-) BR. Sven ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>> ___ >>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> ___ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
system wide or to active window, using QApplication::sendEvent. I didnt tried it to send events to another window, just suggesting different way. On 25.12.2013 23:30, Sven Putze wrote: I din't get that. Emulate keypress where? BR. Sven On 25.12.2013, at 17:39, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: did you tried emulating keypress with char codes? On 25.12.2013 21:57, Sven Putze wrote: On 25.12.2013, at 15:40, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: pasting from clipboard to onscreen keyboard not working? sadly then. Sadly, indeed :-) If only I had something I could copy and paste from... ...I've seen the suggestion from Mikael Hermansson but am not desperate enough to install the app;-) BR. Sven ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
I din't get that. Emulate keypress where? BR. Sven On 25.12.2013, at 17:39, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: > did you tried emulating keypress with char codes? > > On 25.12.2013 21:57, Sven Putze wrote: >> On 25.12.2013, at 15:40, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: >> >>> pasting from clipboard to onscreen keyboard not working? sadly then. >>> >> Sadly, indeed :-) >> If only I had something I could copy and paste from... >> ...I've seen the suggestion from Mikael Hermansson but am not desperate >> enough to install the app;-) >> >> BR. >> Sven >> >> ___ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
did you tried emulating keypress with char codes? On 25.12.2013 21:57, Sven Putze wrote: On 25.12.2013, at 15:40, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: pasting from clipboard to onscreen keyboard not working? sadly then. Sadly, indeed :-) If only I had something I could copy and paste from... ...I've seen the suggestion from Mikael Hermansson but am not desperate enough to install the app;-) BR. Sven ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
On 25.12.2013, at 15:40, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: > pasting from clipboard to onscreen keyboard not working? sadly then. > Sadly, indeed :-) If only I had something I could copy and paste from... ...I've seen the suggestion from Mikael Hermansson but am not desperate enough to install the app;-) BR. Sven ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
Hi, On 25/12/13 14:31, Sven Putze wrote: Because this way I could paste in my passwords. They tend to be long and cryptic (32-64 chars). On screen keyboard does not work here, I tried. And I tried hard! Only results in "I want to throw that thing against the next wall". And I've waited too long to get my Jolla for such a folly ;-) what are you trying to do ? :) the passwords are saved in a separated DB can't be set via/modified via command line, only via accounts-sso apis: https://code.google.com/p/accounts-sso/ https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-accounts Best regards, Valério BR. Sven P.S.: And I am not changing my passwords :-) On 25.12.2013, at 15:26, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: and explain please why cli? On 25.12.2013 20:25, Sven Putze wrote: On 25.12.2013, at 15:07, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: imap4/password and smtp/password not working? Nope. And somehow I am glad that it does not work because you can read the values with ag-tool list-settings and the passwords would show up. If I look at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?s=7878e61440c86b678dce7c74c510cf73&t=92122&page=3 and especially at http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r0t4b5&s=5#.Urre__3gNFw there must be some magic with credentials that have an id. BR. Sven ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
Maybe push2sail can can be handy for lonmg passwords ;) http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92132&highlight=push2sail On Wednesday 25 December 2013 20.40.01 Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: > pasting from clipboard to onscreen keyboard not working? sadly then. > > On 25.12.2013 20:31, Sven Putze wrote: > > Because this way I could paste in my passwords. They tend to be long and > > cryptic (32-64 chars). On screen keyboard does not work here, I tried. > > And I tried hard! Only results in "I want to throw that thing against the > > next wall". And I've waited too long to get my Jolla for such a folly ;-) > > > > BR. > > Sven > > > > P.S.: And I am not changing my passwords :-) > > > > On 25.12.2013, at 15:26, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: > >> and explain please why cli? > >> > >> On 25.12.2013 20:25, Sven Putze wrote: > >>> On 25.12.2013, at 15:07, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: > imap4/password and smtp/password not working? > >>> > >>> Nope. > >>> > >>> And somehow I am glad that it does not work because you can read the > >>> values with ag-tool list-settings and the passwords would show up. > >>> If I look at > >>> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?s=7878e61440c86b678dce7c74c510cf73&; > >>> t=92122&page=3 and especially at > >>> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r0t4b5&s=5#.Urre__3gNFw > >>> > >>> there must be some magic with credentials that have an id. > >>> > >>> BR. > >>> Sven > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > >> > >> ___ > >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > > > > ___ > > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Skickat från Lenovo Thinkpad X230 running Kubuntu desktop ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
pasting from clipboard to onscreen keyboard not working? sadly then. On 25.12.2013 20:31, Sven Putze wrote: Because this way I could paste in my passwords. They tend to be long and cryptic (32-64 chars). On screen keyboard does not work here, I tried. And I tried hard! Only results in "I want to throw that thing against the next wall". And I've waited too long to get my Jolla for such a folly ;-) BR. Sven P.S.: And I am not changing my passwords :-) On 25.12.2013, at 15:26, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: and explain please why cli? On 25.12.2013 20:25, Sven Putze wrote: On 25.12.2013, at 15:07, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: imap4/password and smtp/password not working? Nope. And somehow I am glad that it does not work because you can read the values with ag-tool list-settings and the passwords would show up. If I look at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?s=7878e61440c86b678dce7c74c510cf73&t=92122&page=3 and especially at http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r0t4b5&s=5#.Urre__3gNFw there must be some magic with credentials that have an id. BR. Sven ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
Because this way I could paste in my passwords. They tend to be long and cryptic (32-64 chars). On screen keyboard does not work here, I tried. And I tried hard! Only results in "I want to throw that thing against the next wall". And I've waited too long to get my Jolla for such a folly ;-) BR. Sven P.S.: And I am not changing my passwords :-) On 25.12.2013, at 15:26, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: > and explain please why cli? > > On 25.12.2013 20:25, Sven Putze wrote: >> On 25.12.2013, at 15:07, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: >> >>> imap4/password and smtp/password not working? >>> >> Nope. >> >> And somehow I am glad that it does not work because you can read the values >> with ag-tool list-settings and the passwords would show up. >> If I look at >> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?s=7878e61440c86b678dce7c74c510cf73&t=92122&page=3 >> and especially at >> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r0t4b5&s=5#.Urre__3gNFw >> >> there must be some magic with credentials that have an id. >> >> BR. >> Sven >> >> ___ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
and explain please why cli? On 25.12.2013 20:25, Sven Putze wrote: On 25.12.2013, at 15:07, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: imap4/password and smtp/password not working? Nope. And somehow I am glad that it does not work because you can read the values with ag-tool list-settings and the passwords would show up. If I look at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?s=7878e61440c86b678dce7c74c510cf73&t=92122&page=3 and especially at http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r0t4b5&s=5#.Urre__3gNFw there must be some magic with credentials that have an id. BR. Sven ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
On 25.12.2013, at 15:07, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: > imap4/password and smtp/password not working? > Nope. And somehow I am glad that it does not work because you can read the values with ag-tool list-settings and the passwords would show up. If I look at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?s=7878e61440c86b678dce7c74c510cf73&t=92122&page=3 and especially at http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r0t4b5&s=5#.Urre__3gNFw there must be some magic with credentials that have an id. BR. Sven ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
imap4/password and smtp/password not working? On 25.12.2013 20:02, Sven Putze wrote: Hi all again, so far I managed to create accounts via command line: ag-tool create-account email mail.addr...@contoso.com ag-tool list-accounts # get the id number for the created account, let's assume 4 ag-tool update-service 4 email string:emailaddress=mail.addr...@contoso.com ag-tool update-service 4 email string:name=mail.addr...@contoso.com ag-tool update-service 4 email string:imap4/server=imapserver.contoso.com ag-tool update-service 4 email string:imap4/username=mail.addr...@contoso.com ag-tool update-service 4 email int:imap4/port=993 ag-tool update-service 4 email bool:imap4/encryption=1 ag-tool update-service 4 email int:imap4/authentication=2 ag-tool update-service 4 email string:smtp/server=smtpserver.contoso.com ag-tool update-service 4 email string:smtp/username=mail.addr...@contoso.com ag-tool update-service 4 email int:smtp/port=465 ag-tool update-service 4 email bool:smtp/encryption=1 ag-tool enable-account 4 ag-tool enable-service 4 email ag-tool list-settings 4 This is pretty much OK, but the most important part is missing: *the password* Does anyone know how to set it via shell? I you knew my passwords, you would immediately understand why I want to do it this way ;-) BR. Sven ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] configure mail accounts via command line
Hi all again, so far I managed to create accounts via command line: ag-tool create-account email mail.addr...@contoso.com ag-tool list-accounts # get the id number for the created account, let's assume 4 ag-tool update-service 4 email string:emailaddress=mail.addr...@contoso.com ag-tool update-service 4 email string:name=mail.addr...@contoso.com ag-tool update-service 4 email string:imap4/server=imapserver.contoso.com ag-tool update-service 4 email string:imap4/username=mail.addr...@contoso.com ag-tool update-service 4 email int:imap4/port=993 ag-tool update-service 4 email bool:imap4/encryption=1 ag-tool update-service 4 email int:imap4/authentication=2 ag-tool update-service 4 email string:smtp/server=smtpserver.contoso.com ag-tool update-service 4 email string:smtp/username=mail.addr...@contoso.com ag-tool update-service 4 email int:smtp/port=465 ag-tool update-service 4 email bool:smtp/encryption=1 ag-tool enable-account 4 ag-tool enable-service 4 email ag-tool list-settings 4 This is pretty much OK, but the most important part is missing: *the password* Does anyone know how to set it via shell? I you knew my passwords, you would immediately understand why I want to do it this way ;-) BR. Sven ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
