[digitalradio] [EMAIL PROTECTED] in JT65A

2007-04-13 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Yess! Got him :)

132400  6   -6 -0.2 -175  3 #  LA5VNA 7L4IOU PM95  OOO   1  10

73 de LA5VNA Steinar








[digitalradio] QST article on HF use of JT65A due July 07

2007-04-13 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I have been advised that the use of JT65A on HF will be featured in
QST' July edition.  Steve Ford will discuss the mode in his column and
I have supplied some screen shots . Seems the K3UK Bozo Guide caught
Steve's eye (even though he clearly is not a bozo) .  This QST
publicity should bring even more activity to this exciting weak signal
digital mode. Steve's columns have ignited much interest in other
modes after he featured them.

-- 
Andy K3UK
Skype Me :  callto://andyobrien73
www.obriensweb.com


[digitalradio] Re: The Bozo's Guide to HF JT65A has been updated.

2007-04-13 Thread Ed Hekman
Andy,

Nice work on the document.  I am just a few days behind you on the 
learning curve.  I was able to get it set up and running with the 
documentation provided with the software but a few things had to be 
learned by experience and experimentation.  Your document has all 
the essential information for the new user and should make this mode 
useable for many new operators.

I had an exciting introduction to JT65A the day before you published 
your document.  After reading about this mode on this group for 
several weeks I finally downloaded and installed it last Friday.  
Since my computer has multiple sound cards, the information in the 
DOS window was essential for selecting the correct input and output 
sound card numbers.  After getting it set up I hit the monitor 
button and watched the trace for awhile (7076 KHz).  I couldn't hear 
anything but wondered what that faint line was on the waterfall.  I 
was astounded when ZS6WN popped up in the text window with -23 dB 
SNR.  After sending a few replies it was a thrill to see his 
response.

The only thing I would suggest adding is a little more explanation 
about how to use the information in the DOS window to select sound 
card numbers for the input and output with multiple sound cards 
installed on the computer.

Thanks for your administration of this group and for the document.

Ed
WB6YTE

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew O'Brien 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Bozo's Guide to HF JT65A has been updated.  Thanks to  those 
that
 contributed suggestions.
 
 http://www.obriensweb.com/bozoguidejt65a.htm
 
 
 It is likely to require a few more updates to ensure that the 
basic's
 are explained.




[digitalradio] New user assistance

2007-04-13 Thread wd4elg_base

Friend of mine is using Ten-Tec Paragon, Donner interface and HP Brio
PC.  Already tried tinkering with volume control and mic gain, still
looks like a distorted waveform when transmitting on air.

Anyone with experience, please advise.  Thanks,

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG



[digitalradio] The Great MT63/Olivia/Throb/DomicoEX/JT65A test

2007-04-13 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I would like stations to test weak signal propagation and decoding
characteristics , this weekend's conditions look ideal (i.e.
propagation is expected to be poor on 20M and up).

I would suggest that stations pair off and work each other via Olivia
at first, establish the lowest workable power levels between the two
stations using Olivia, and then switch to MT63 DominoEx ,  Throb, and
JT65A.  I suggest you use the same frequency for the tests, please
avoid the standard JT65A frequencies (14076, 7076) .  Always  QRL? 


Please report your results here.  Feels free to play around and add
other tests if you like.

Andy K3UK




[digitalradio] 14100 kHz USB Voice Scrambling Intruders

2007-04-13 Thread expeditionradio
I noticed 2 stations on 14100 kHz USB today at 1905-1915 UTC using
voice scramblers. 

Does anyone have a decoder for them? 

The scrambler type is the kind that is synchronized with some tones at
beginning and end of the transmission, and it uses SSB with filtered
changing audio frequency reference point speech inversion. 

The 14MHz propagation here in California was open to Mexico, Central
and South America.

Bonnie KQ6XA






[digitalradio] Re: The Great MT63/Olivia/Throb/DominoEX/JT65A test

2007-04-13 Thread expeditionradio
Hi Andy, 

Suggestion:
VFO Frequency 14077.0 kHz USB
Starting mode: Olivia 16-500 
(Olivia 16 tones - 500Hz bandwidth)
Center audio frequency for Olivia  = 1000Hz.

73---Bonnie KQ6XA



--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew O'Brien
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would like stations to test weak signal propagation and decoding
 characteristics , this weekend's conditions look ideal (i.e.
 propagation is expected to be poor on 20M and up).
 
 I would suggest that stations pair off and work each other via Olivia
 at first, establish the lowest workable power levels between the two
 stations using Olivia, and then switch to MT63 DominoEx ,  Throb, and
 JT65A.  I suggest you use the same frequency for the tests, please
 avoid the standard JT65A frequencies (14076, 7076) .  Always  QRL? 
 
 
 Please report your results here.  Feels free to play around and add
 other tests if you like.
 
 Andy K3UK





Re: [digitalradio] New user assistance

2007-04-13 Thread Mark Milburn
Have you tried opening up the Donner interface?  There
is a limited amount of reduction by adjusting the
control inside the box.

Also, what software are you using?  MixW has a control
built into the software that will reduce the output
and probably some of the other software programs have
such a configuration control as well.

73  Mark   KQ0I
Des Moines, Iowa


--- wd4elg_base [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Friend of mine is using Ten-Tec Paragon, Donner
 interface and HP Brio
 PC.  Already tried tinkering with volume control and
 mic gain, still
 looks like a distorted waveform when transmitting on
 air.
 
 Anyone with experience, please advise.  Thanks,
 
 Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
 
 


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Re: [digitalradio] New user assistance

2007-04-13 Thread kv9u
I might mention that upon looking at the Donner's website, they had a 
USB to COM serial adapter but they were not sure if it worked with MS 
Vista. I contacted them recently and had several e-mail exchanges with 
Mrs. Donner since she wanted to know about my experiences with Vista and 
I shared some of the pros and cons.

Their adapter is the same as sold by other suppliers such as Newegg. It 
is a no name kind of product and based upon the picture and mini CD 
disk and packaging almost has to be the same product. Not only does this 
interface work with Vista, the drivers are already in Vista so you just 
plug it in and it works.

Although Vista has some downsides, I am beginning to see that the 
positives well outweigh the negatives, especially for average and/or 
non-technical users. I like stuff that just works for a change. 
Especially for digital radio purposes. Since DX Lab Commander works well 
with Multipsk, this continues to be my digital software choice. One 
simplification I have recently tried is to use wxLogbook in place of the 
DX Lab logging program which I have not been able to get to work with 
Vista (although others claim they have had no problem). wxLogbook seems 
to work just fine with Vista.

73,

Rick, KV9U


Mark Milburn wrote:
 Have you tried opening up the Donner interface?  There
 is a limited amount of reduction by adjusting the
 control inside the box.

 Also, what software are you using?  MixW has a control
 built into the software that will reduce the output
 and probably some of the other software programs have
 such a configuration control as well.

 73  Mark   KQ0I
 Des Moines, Iowa


   



[digitalradio] JT65A - sound card selection

2007-04-13 Thread w4lde
I have two sound cards, the windows 0 card is my std Windows default
with speakers connected, the second card 1 is my second 2nd sound card
and connected to a Microham Keyer for all of my ham radio sound card
applications.

In the WSJT setup  Options screen there is an Audio in and Audio out
setting, the DOS screen that boots up with WSJT correctly ID's the two
sound cards but also includes the MS windows mixer.  The mixer shows as
0, the default card as 1 and the one I use for rig interface as 2.  I’ve
tried all sorts of manual entries in the audio in and out but can not
seem to get much response form the screen on the main program or from
the secondary window.

When I select options on the 2nd waterfall style window and look at
sound card it seems to default to the default sound card even though I
think that I have correctly selected the 2nd card.  I can manual
selected the desired card but it will not stay set for the WSJT.

Anyone out there using a second card for this application?  What is the
correct audio IN/Out, is it card number or channel number for the card?

Anyone successfully setup a Microham Keyer?  The program successfully
does PPT through my current setting.

It’s possible that I may need to set up my 2nd card as my default
windows card to get the correct match,  any recommendations?

Thanks for the anticipated help

Ron W4LDE



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Re: [digitalradio] Re: The Great MT63/Olivia/Throb/DominoEX/JT65A test

2007-04-13 Thread Andrew O'Brien

Good idea Bonnie.



On 4/13/07, expeditionradio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Hi Andy,

Suggestion:
VFO Frequency 14077.0 kHz USB
Starting mode: Olivia 16-500
(Olivia 16 tones - 500Hz bandwidth)
Center audio frequency for Olivia = 1000Hz.

73---Bonnie KQ6XA

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com,
Andrew O'Brien
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would like stations to test weak signal propagation and decoding
 characteristics , this weekend's conditions look ideal (i.e.
 propagation is expected to be poor on 20M and up).

 I would suggest that stations pair off and work each other via Olivia
 at first, establish the lowest workable power levels between the two
 stations using Olivia, and then switch to MT63 DominoEx , Throb, and
 JT65A. I suggest you use the same frequency for the tests, please
 avoid the standard JT65A frequencies (14076, 7076) . Always  QRL? 


 Please report your results here. Feels free to play around and add
 other tests if you like.

 Andy K3UK


 





--
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Skype Me :  callto://andyobrien73
www.obriensweb.com


[digitalradio] Re: The Great MT63/Olivia/Throb/DomicoEX/JT65A test

2007-04-13 Thread satellitebob_1
Let's get started tonight-- I'm ready now

Bob
N4YWF


-- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I would like stations to test weak signal propagation and decoding
 characteristics , this weekend's conditions look ideal (i.e.
 propagation is expected to be poor on 20M and up).
 
 I would suggest that stations pair off and work each other via Olivia
 at first, establish the lowest workable power levels between the two
 stations using Olivia, and then switch to MT63 DominoEx ,  Throb, and
 JT65A.  I suggest you use the same frequency for the tests, please
 avoid the standard JT65A frequencies (14076, 7076) .  Always  QRL? 
 
 
 Please report your results here.  Feels free to play around and add
 other tests if you like.
 
 Andy K3UK





[digitalradio] ft920/jt65 display

2007-04-13 Thread David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD
been messing some more, and i see that this problem only
crops up when using the spectran in the vertical scroll mode.

comments ?

david/wd4kpd


Re: [digitalradio] Re: ZS6WN JT65 14076

2007-04-13 Thread KT2Q
 Glad I have never ever done that!  (and if you 
 believe that..)
 Bill  N9DSJ

Me too Bill -- been there hi...

Tony KT2Q



- Original Message - 
From: Bill McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:51 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: ZS6WN JT65 14076


 Glad I have never ever done that!  (and if you 
 believe that..)

 Bill  N9DSJ

 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], KT2Q 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Andy,

 Not sure what that was about -- could be that 
 he
 forgot to click the next message -- it happens
   ).

 Tony


 




[digitalradio] JT65 Spot -- KG6RYB 20m JT65

2007-04-13 Thread KT2Q
All:

Weak sigs (-25db) from KG6RYB @ 2330z on 14076.0.

232800  7  -25  0.5  318  3 *  KT2Q KG6RYB 
CM87  1   0

Tony KT2Q

 




[digitalradio] 7L4IOU on JT65 QSY to 21076

2007-04-13 Thread KT2Q
ALL

Good JT65 signals from 7L4IOU. He's QSY 21076 as of 0008z... 

Tony KT2Q

000200  1  -22 -0.3 -237  4 *  CQ 7L4IOU PM950  10 
000400  4  -10 -0.1 -237  4 *  CQ 7L4IOU PM951  10 
000600  2  -15 -0.2   13  3 *  CQ 7L4IOU PM951  10  
   
000800  2  -15 -0.1  264  5 *  QSY 21076 210 1   0 



[digitalradio] JS3CTQ on 20m JT65 00:27z

2007-04-13 Thread KT2Q
002600  5   -7 -1.0  240  4 #  KT2Q JS3CTQ 
PM74OOO   1  10

Tony KT2Q





Re: [digitalradio] JT65 Spot -- KG6RYB 20m JT65

2007-04-13 Thread Everett Palmer
Hello,

I was using about 5 watts from CM87 Los Altos CA.
KG6RYB KT2Q FN30
This was my first QSO with JT65A.
I need to work on my sequence.

Thanks,

Everett, KG6RYB



At 04:43 PM 4/13/2007, you wrote:
All:

Weak sigs (-25db) from KG6RYB @ 2330z on 14076.0.

232800  7  -25  0.5  318  3 *  KT2Q KG6RYB
CM87  1   0

Tony KT2Q







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Re: [digitalradio] JT65 Spot -- KG6RYB 20m JT65

2007-04-13 Thread KT2Q
 I was using about 5 watts from CM87 Los Altos CA. KG6RYB KT2Q FN30 This was 
 my first QSO with JT65A. Everett, KG6RYB

Everett: 

The WSJT log says your best sigs were -10db so not bad for 5 watts! Congrats on 
your first JT65 QSO! 

***232600  9  -10  0.5  318  3 *  KT2Q KG6RYB CM87***

Tony KT2Q



[digitalradio] JT65 on HF , I found who started it !

2007-04-13 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I have been trying to found who started the out of the box thinking
and began using JT65A on HF.  Here is what I found (courtesy of
WSJTGROUP , a Yahoogroup).
For the past three weeks I and a few other Hams have been trying JT65B
on the HF bands with some degree of success. One of the most popular
frequencies is 18.102. So far I have had A QSO with at least 8
different stations including 8Q7WB and JE5FLM. These contacts were on
bands that were supposedly dead or nearly dead at the time. My
observations about the JT65B mode on HF is that the software is very
good at decoding signals as low as -26db, surrounded by PSK/RTTY/AMTOR
QRM and a considerable amount of QRN.
8Q7WB was worked at -24db with PSK at +400hz and -500hz and some local
QRN. JT decoded every transmission from Isao with no problem despite
the PSK signals being anywhere from S2 to S5 on the meter.
Since I can very rarely use 6 and 2 meters anymore due to horrendous
line noise that doesn't seem to bother most of the HF bands I find
that JT65B on HF is fun. It's not EME but on a dead band it can be a
bit exciting.
I am not using a big antenna setup on HF, just an 80M delta loop and
25 - 30 watts output. So far I have made QSO's on 40, 30, 20 and 15
with JT65B.


Mike VE3FGU


-



Then the author of WSJT replied


Re: [wsjtgroup] WSJT ON hf bands

Hi Mike,

Your results with JT65B on HF are very interesting!

I encourage you to try the same experiments using JT65A,
some time soon. Your bandwidth requirements will then be
cut in half, to only 178 Hz. This means half as much chance
for in-band QRM from other signals, and it means less QRM
from your signal to other operators.

Frequency stability and doppler broadening should be only a
minor factor on the HF bands, and JT65A should give you
about 1 dB better sensitivity than JT65B.

With best wishes,

-- 73, Joe, K1JT 




I think JE5FLM , Mike, and a few others started it around March 23 and
then we digitalradio folks first picked out the unknown signals , K3UK
reported an unknown signal on March 28 and after a few guesses Joe,
N8FQ said Sounds like JT65 to me. Steinar suggested a TF3 was
conducting tests.On March 31 2007, Andy Confirmed the reception
was JT65A.


-
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[digitalradio] New on PSK31 and JT65A

2007-04-13 Thread Bob Fabrizio
I recently got my new Navigator interface and was able to get on PSK31
without much trouble using it and DXLabs WinWarbler.  I already made a
number of QSOs.  However, when I saw the information on JT65A, I was
intrigued.  I downloaded the program and the Bozo's Guide (Yes, I am a
Bozo) and after playing around with it for about a day, I finally got
it to work.  My first QSO was with ZS6WN and I have already worked a
number of European stations along with JA and VK stations.  I have
copied a few W's but have not been able to get any to come back to me.
 The main problem I had getting the software to work correctly was
realizing that I needed to push the soundcard output gain to almost
maximum.  Running PSK31 on WinWarbler is much more sensitive and I
have to keep the gain way down when running that.

This mode is great! At this point in the sunspot cycle, it is
difficult to make QSO's in this part of the world.  Sure, it can be
done, but the openings are short and few.  This mode really helps make
QSOs when the rest of the band is completely quiet!

I will be on again tonight (around 1000 Z to 1500 Z) on 20 m.  Maybe
this time I will work a US station or two this time!

73,

Bob, 9V1QQ



[digitalradio] Re: Singapore : New on PSK31 and JT65A

2007-04-13 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Welcome to the group Bob.  When I got out of work today and checked
the lcoal 2M repeater, your presence on JT65A HF was being discussed,
seems you were in QSO with VE7CUS, or at least he was calling you.  I
hope to find you 1000-1500 UTC today.  Andy K3UK


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bob Fabrizio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I recently got my new Navigator interface and was able to get on PSK31
 without much trouble using it and DXLabs WinWarbler.  I already made a
 number of QSOs.  However, when I saw the information on JT65A, I was
 intrigued.  I downloaded the program and the Bozo's Guide (Yes, I am a
 Bozo) and after playing around with it for about a day, I finally got
 it to work.  My first QSO was with ZS6WN and I have already worked a
 number of European stations along with JA and VK stations.  I have
 copied a few W's but have not been able to get any to come back to me.
  The main problem I had getting the software to work correctly was
 realizing that I needed to push the soundcard output gain to almost
 maximum.  Running PSK31 on WinWarbler is much more sensitive and I
 have to keep the gain way down when running that.
 
 This mode is great! At this point in the sunspot cycle, it is
 difficult to make QSO's in this part of the world.  Sure, it can be
 done, but the openings are short and few.  This mode really helps make
 QSOs when the rest of the band is completely quiet!
 
 I will be on again tonight (around 1000 Z to 1500 Z) on 20 m.  Maybe
 this time I will work a US station or two this time!
 
 73,
 
 Bob, 9V1QQ





[digitalradio] QRV JT65 40 meters

2007-04-13 Thread KT2Q
All:

QRV on 40 meter JT65 at 0600z -- 7076 dial LSB. 
Calling CQ second sequence. Will be in the shack 
for 1/2 hour or so...

Tony KT2Q