RE: [digitalradio] Problems Keying With WIN DRM and Icom 746
Hello Andy, Did you have any luck setting up your friend's 746? I have HRD running as of tonight on my computer with my 746 and was wondering how you did it with Win DRM and PC-ALE. Rick - KH2DF _ From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:24 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Problems Keying With WIN DRM and Icom 746 Rick, By coincidence, I am going to visit a Icom 746 Pro this Friday afternoon. A ham that I talk to on 2 meters has been having all kinds of trouble getting his rig to key with several different software applications. I plan on setting up WinDRM for him and should get a better idea on what the issues are. I see you have things set for 9600 baud but I found this statement: "The Icom IC-746 uses 19200 Baud rate, 8 Data bits, None Parity, 1 Stop bits. " Did you try it with different baud rates? Are you using a Rigblaster pro, plus, or plug and play ? I found this reference, not sure if it helps. RIGblaster plug & play Operational Details: * CW keying is done by setting DTR high on the emulated serial port. * Standard PTT is done by setting RTS high on the emulated serial port. The Icom IC-746 and similar radios use pin 6 on the 7 pin DIN ACC(2) jack for PTT on the 2 meter band. Since the adapter only connects to the 8 pin DIN ACC(1) jack, the RIGblaster plug & play cannot use standard PTT keying for the 2 meter band. One solution is to use CAT control for transmit and receive with the built-in CI-V interface On 1/3/07, r_lwesterfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> bellsouth.net> wrote: Hello Andy, The WIN DRM program seems to run and I have downloaded the melp.dll file plus the "tune" wav file. But it does not key the rig using the same comm 3 line or Rigblaster settings that MixW successfully uses. Win DRM will make the "digital sound" using the "TX Voice" button when the settings are Comm 3 and RTS is High on FAC but it does not key the rig. I have also tried Vox and Auto on the Rigblaster which made no difference. I do use the Rig Talk device which may explain my success with MixW and my Icom 746. PTT for MixW is set to CAT which I cannot do (I presume) with Win DRM. The other settings in MixW which may pertain are: 9600 baud, 8 data bits, no parity, 1 stop bit, RTS = PTT and DTR = CW. I had similar issues with PC-ALE which I was never able to adequately solve to enable scanning or keying using that program and eventually gave up on it. But it was a different computer and I have now upgraded to a Windows XP machine that is fairly modern with plenty of RAM but only one sound card. All of this should work and I know it must be a setting somewhere that I am missing. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Rick - KH2DF/W5 _ From: digitalradio@ <mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> com] On Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:29 PM To: digitalradio@ <mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: windrm --- In digitalradio@ <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com , "r_lwesterfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, I did this as well but I cannot get the rig to key. I am using Comm 3 > which is what MixW uses with ease and I have tried every conceivable PTT > checkbox combination under "SETUP". What am I missing??? > > Rick, WinDRM just requires one PPT port, that's it. It should work teh same as your MixW setting. What RTS/DTR setting did you try ? Andy K3UK -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.4/615 - Release Date: 1/3/2007 1:34 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.4/615 - Release Date: 1/3/2007 1:34 PM -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb. <http://www.obriensweb.com> com
Re: [digitalradio] Problems Keying With WIN DRM and Icom 746
I am not sure about MixW. I never liked the way it would crash when I would try to get it to work with my Ten Tec Pegasus rig and then when I discovered DX Commander working so well with Multipsk, it did not make any sense to consider MixW due to the cost and the lack of advancement. Their web site claims that it supports the CAT system for most rigs including the ICOM's. So I would expect it to support PTT assuming that the rig CAT includes that command. It sure is slick to watch DX Commander do this, as well as handle the frequency, mode and other parameters. Actually, I like the look and feel of some some of the Linux programs such as the Fast Light developed FlDigi, fl_logbook, gMFSK, PSKmail, etc. but I have not gotten to the point yet of moving to Linux. But working on that as I am finding out that some of my concerns of using Linux, such as the horrible font problem, can be corrected once I move away from just a Live version. It is a matter of installing the high quality Windows fonts that were tweaked especially for screen use and MS has the best ones by far. 73, Rick, KV9U Andrew O'Brien wrote: >So RIck, is this the same for Icom and Mixw? I have a friend that >can;t get MixW to do both rig control and PTT with his 746 Pro but can >get Commander /MUltipsk to do it. > >For WinDRM though, there is NO CW...just PTT. > >Andy. > >
Re: [digitalradio] Problems Keying With WIN DRM and Icom 746
So RIck, is this the same for Icom and Mixw? I have a friend that can;t get MixW to do both rig control and PTT with his 746 Pro but can get Commander /MUltipsk to do it. For WinDRM though, there is NO CW...just PTT. Andy. On 1/4/07, KV9U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When you use DTR for CW and PTT with RTS, how does an interface such as > Rigblaster handle this with the COM ports? > > You must need to connect a COM port to each of them, right? > > If you have only one COM port available you can either key CW or key > PTT, but not both. And if you need rig control, that would require yet > another COM port. > > Most computers no longer have COM ports so I purchased one USB to COM > port adapter. This goes to my homebrew COM port to CI-V port converter. > The CI-V can control most of the radio functions, including PTT. > Unfortunately, it can not control CW keying, nor FSK keying and that > would require additional COM ports (or USB to COM port adapters) for > each one. > > Since there are programs that support CI-V control, such as DX Commander > which, in turn, supports Multipsk, and gives you just about every sound > card mode and a few that are not available on any other software, I have > not been very interested in trying to adapt to programs that do not have > this capability. > > 73, > > Rick, KV9U > > > > Andrew O'Brien wrote: > > > Are you using a Rigblaster pro, plus, or plug and play ? I found this > > reference, not sure if it helps. > > > > > > *RIGblaster plug & play Operational Details:* > > > > *CW keying is done by setting DTR high on the emulated serial port. * > > *Standard PTT is done by setting RTS high on the emulated serial port. > > > > The Icom IC-746 and similar radios use pin 6 on the 7 pin DIN ACC(2) jack > > for PTT on the 2 meter band. Since the adapter only connects to the 8 pin > > DIN ACC(1) jack, the RIGblaster plug & play cannot use standard PTT > > keying > > for the 2 meter band. One solution is to use CAT control for transmit and > > receive with the built-in CI-V interface* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster > telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > Our other groups: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com
Re: [digitalradio] Problems Keying With WIN DRM and Icom 746
When you use DTR for CW and PTT with RTS, how does an interface such as Rigblaster handle this with the COM ports? You must need to connect a COM port to each of them, right? If you have only one COM port available you can either key CW or key PTT, but not both. And if you need rig control, that would require yet another COM port. Most computers no longer have COM ports so I purchased one USB to COM port adapter. This goes to my homebrew COM port to CI-V port converter. The CI-V can control most of the radio functions, including PTT. Unfortunately, it can not control CW keying, nor FSK keying and that would require additional COM ports (or USB to COM port adapters) for each one. Since there are programs that support CI-V control, such as DX Commander which, in turn, supports Multipsk, and gives you just about every sound card mode and a few that are not available on any other software, I have not been very interested in trying to adapt to programs that do not have this capability. 73, Rick, KV9U Andrew O'Brien wrote: > Are you using a Rigblaster pro, plus, or plug and play ? I found this > reference, not sure if it helps. > > > *RIGblaster plug & play Operational Details:* > > *CW keying is done by setting DTR high on the emulated serial port. * > *Standard PTT is done by setting RTS high on the emulated serial port. > > The Icom IC-746 and similar radios use pin 6 on the 7 pin DIN ACC(2) jack > for PTT on the 2 meter band. Since the adapter only connects to the 8 pin > DIN ACC(1) jack, the RIGblaster plug & play cannot use standard PTT > keying > for the 2 meter band. One solution is to use CAT control for transmit and > receive with the built-in CI-V interface* > ** > ** > ** Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Problems Keying With WIN DRM and Icom 746
Rick, By coincidence, I am going to visit a Icom 746 Pro this Friday afternoon. A ham that I talk to on 2 meters has been having all kinds of trouble getting his rig to key with several different software applications. I plan on setting up WinDRM for him and should get a better idea on what the issues are. I see you have things set for 9600 baud but I found this statement: "The Icom IC-746 uses 19200 Baud rate, 8 Data bits, None Parity, 1 Stop bits. " Did you try it with different baud rates? Are you using a Rigblaster pro, plus, or plug and play ? I found this reference, not sure if it helps. *RIGblaster plug & play Operational Details:* *CW keying is done by setting DTR high on the emulated serial port. * *Standard PTT is done by setting RTS high on the emulated serial port. The Icom IC-746 and similar radios use pin 6 on the 7 pin DIN ACC(2) jack for PTT on the 2 meter band. Since the adapter only connects to the 8 pin DIN ACC(1) jack, the RIGblaster plug & play cannot use standard PTT keying for the 2 meter band. One solution is to use CAT control for transmit and receive with the built-in CI-V interface* ** ** ** On 1/3/07, r_lwesterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Andy, The WIN DRM program seems to run and I have downloaded the melp.dllfile plus the "tune" wav file. But it does not key the rig using the same comm 3 line or Rigblaster settings that MixW successfully uses. Win DRM will make the "digital sound" using the "TX Voice" button when the settings are Comm 3 and RTS is High on FAC but it does not key the rig. I have also tried Vox and Auto on the Rigblaster which made no difference. I do use the Rig Talk device which may explain my success with MixW and my Icom 746. PTT for MixW is set to CAT which I cannot do (I presume) with Win DRM. The other settings in MixW which may pertain are: 9600 baud, 8 data bits, no parity, 1 stop bit, RTS = PTT and DTR = CW. I had similar issues with PC-ALE which I was never able to adequately solve to enable scanning or keying using that program and eventually gave up on it. But it was a different computer and I have now upgraded to a Windows XP machine that is fairly modern with plenty of RAM but only one sound card. All of this should work and I know it must be a setting somewhere that I am missing. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Rick – KH2DF/W5 -- *From:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Andrew O'Brien *Sent:* Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:29 PM *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [digitalradio] Re: windrm --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com , "r_lwesterfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, I did this as well but I cannot get the rig to key. I am using Comm 3 > which is what MixW uses with ease and I have tried every conceivable PTT > checkbox combination under "SETUP". What am I missing??? > > Rick, WinDRM just requires one PPT port, that's it. It should work teh same as your MixW setting. What RTS/DTR setting did you try ? Andy K3UK -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.4/615 - Release Date: 1/3/2007 1:34 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.4/615 - Release Date: 1/3/2007 1:34 PM -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com
