Re: [slim] How Many Squeezeboxes still in use?

2019-06-24 Thread kidstypike


I prefer to run LMS with the ---nomysqueezebox.com -parameter, have done
so for years. Now we're being told not to do this. I have absolutely no
use for mysb.com.

What's the difference between running (*a*) LMS with the
---nomysqueezebox.com- parameter, or (*b*) LMS with mysqueezebox.com,
but not using mysb.com?

Does it make any difference to the numbers of units Logitech are seeing?
:confused:



*Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0 25K library playlists & LMS cache
on SSD (ntfs)
*Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite,
*Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5
*Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom
*Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T

*Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 6xRPi

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Re: [slim] How Many Squeezeboxes still in use?

2019-06-24 Thread erland

pablolie wrote: 
> The connection the mysqueezebox doomed ecosystem is an evil that needs
> to be eradicated from the any LMS connected device.
> 
> I am not even sure if I deleted or still included the mysqueezebox
> account, but if I do it is by accident. My LMS just plays local music or
> Spotify these days. I don't want anything else.
> 
I’m sorry but this is just silly, people have said mysqueezebox.com is
doomed for over 10 years and it’s still (with a few exceptions) working
more or less as good as it did 10 years ago. I do agree that it will die
eventually, as everything else. Just as an example, it has so far
survived and been maintained longer than any of my Apple devices.
Reasoning the way you do it would be pointless to buy a new smartphone
today since it’s doomed, the latest iPhone is unlikely to be usable 5
years in the future so why buy and use it today. Are you sure Spotify
will be alive 2024 ?

I think the lifetime of Squeezeboxes (including mysqueezebox.com) is
exceptional. I think I have exactly one electronic device in my home
that’s older than my Squeezebox Classic, everything except for my
Sherwood receiver has been replaced after I purchased the Squeezebox
Classic back in 2006. I’m trying to think of any cloud services that has
been alive longer than mysqueezebox.com and realize there aren’t many.
I’m not sure any of the premium streaming services on the market has
been alive as long as mysqueezebox.com

Having said this, mysqueezebox.com will eventually stop working but if
we want it to survive longer we should keep using it rather than stop
using it. It obviously get easier for Logitech to shut it down if nobody
uses it.



Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
LEAD PLATFORM DEVELOPER OF 'ICKSTREAM MUSIC PLATFORM'
(HTTP://WWW.ICKSTREAM.COM) -  A WORLD OF MUSIC AT YOUR FINGERTIPS

(Also developer of 'many plugins/applets'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland))

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Re: [slim] How Many Squeezeboxes still in use?

2019-06-24 Thread pablolie


doctor_big wrote: 
> Hey there,
> 
> Wondering if Michael might have some way of counting how many devices
> are currently being used?
> 
> Perhaps an estimate of how many devices currently connect to
> mysqueezebox.com?
> 
> Just curious. 
> 
> Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk

The connection the mysqueezebox doomed ecosystem is an evil that needs
to be eradicated from the any LMS connected device.

I am not even sure if I deleted or still included the mysqueezebox
account, but if I do it is by accident. My LMS just plays local music or
Spotify these days. I don't want anything else.

My mom unfortunately doesn't visit me anymore, but that was my last
connection to internet radio stations she listened to while staying with
me.

*None* of my devices have ever failed, and I have more than i need. The
receiver (and certainly the controller) shall never see any active duty
again. 

In fact I have donated several of my devices to friends, and they are
still working hard and well playing music.



...pablo
Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu
18.04 + LMS 7.9
System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval
Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem
Element Fire
Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem
DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub
Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado
PS500e/Shure 1540

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Re: [slim] How Many Squeezeboxes still in use?

2019-06-24 Thread jp14


mherger wrote: 
> > Looking at it a different way - do you know how many Logitech sold?
> 
> No.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Michael - I've always been curious about this - why are you still
working on this project?  I don't mean that in a negative way - what I'm
wondering is if Logitech killed off the Squeezebox years ago, why are
they still funding this work?  What's in it for them?  Do you know if
there's a plan for when the funding runs out?

And, since I and others have been enjoying all your and others' hard
work, is there a way that we can support you personally?



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Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-24 Thread Apesbrain


d6jg wrote: 
> I use one of these for that job
> https://hifime.uk/DACs/sabre-dac-uae23
Sure, just as I use a HiFiBerry HAT, but how much more elegant it would
be to just put S/PDIF on the board!



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[slim] Squeezebox Radio for sale UK

2019-06-24 Thread danco

I have a little used Squeezebox Radio for sale. It has the accessory
pack installed. I live in London, and am looking for £60 plus postage.

Let me know if you need more information.



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Re: [slim] How Many Squeezeboxes still in use?

2019-06-24 Thread edwin2006


You're so right. I've got one license but 7 squeezeboxes. Some original
hardware and some pcp based.



*SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio
(Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x
piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch
(Study 2), few spare unit's
*Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21
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Re: [slim] How Many Squeezeboxes still in use?

2019-06-24 Thread pippin


edwin2006 wrote: 
> Well there is a sort of way by looking how many people are using apps
> like squeeze cntrl, ipeng and Squeezelite-X.
> Not sure if they are willing to share numbers.

I can't reliably say that. A few 10k monthly active users from what I
can see, but for example I know it's much more during winter than during
summer. The figures are also estimates based on how many people have
activated feedback in iOS and under the assumption that their usage is
similar to those who don't.

I have no idea how many Squeezeboxes people control per app. I know that
about half of the iPeng users have only one Squeezebox but I don't know
how many the other half has on average.
Also, a lot of iPeng users even use more than one device per iPeng copy
(a "copy" is a copy sold on the app store which you can install on as
many devices as you like and in iPeng's case that now includes iPhones,
iPads and Apple Watch).



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learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox
and
Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, 
at penguinlovesmusic.com
*New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch*

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Re: [slim] How Many Squeezeboxes still in use?

2019-06-24 Thread Michael Herger

Looking at it a different way - do you know how many Logitech sold?


No.

--

Michael
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Re: [slim] How Many Squeezeboxes still in use?

2019-06-24 Thread d6jg


mherger wrote: 
> > Wondering if Michael might have some way of counting how many devices
> > are currently being used?
> 
> There's no reliable way to do so, unfortunately. I know it must be 
> hundreds of thousands. But that's a large span :-).
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Looking at it a different way - do you know how many Logitech sold?



VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS)
[B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s
*Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3
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*Dining Room* -> SB Boom 
*Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
*Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
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Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-24 Thread d6jg


Apesbrain wrote: 
> I wish they'd add a S/PDIF output.  That 1/8" jack could easily be a
> combo mini-optical/analog.

I use one of these for that job
https://hifime.uk/DACs/sabre-dac-uae23



VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS)
[B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s
*Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3
-> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
*Dining Room* -> SB Boom 
*Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
*Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
*Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s
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Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-24 Thread Apesbrain


I wish they'd add a S/PDIF output.  That 1/8" jack could easily be a
combo mini-optical/analog.



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Re: [slim] How Many Squeezeboxes still in use?

2019-06-24 Thread bpa


Sourceforge has been the preferred location for 3rd party repo even
though it has access issues, it provides down statistics 

For example,

The number of downloads of BBCiPlayer plugin (and timeline)  indicates
"active" users
https://sourceforge.net/projects/bpaplugins/files/BBCiPlayer-V1_6_7.ZIP/stats/timeline
and the downoads by country
https://sourceforge.net/projects/bpaplugins/files/BBCiPlayer-V1_6_7.ZIP/stats/map

Another example could be Philippe upnp & Chromecast bridges - the URL (
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lms-to-cast/files/dev/repo-sf.xml/stats/timeline
) shows number of users who have subscribed (i.e. LMS will refresh
regularly) but zip downloads shows "active" users.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lms-to-upnp/files/dev/UPnPBridge-1.19.1.zip/stats/timeline
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lms-to-cast/files/dev/CastBridge-1.19.1.zip/stats/timeline

What I take from these figures is that while there are core users (i.e.
playback of a music collection or popular streaming services ) there are
also LMS users in many small groups occupying niches which have not been
addressed by "commercial" products



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Re: [slim] How Many Squeezeboxes still in use?

2019-06-24 Thread ralphy


Greg shared some 'Squeezelite-X download stats'
(https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108550-Announce-Squeezelite-X&p=943686&viewfull=1#post943686)
recently.

I'll see if I can get something similiar for my client builds downloads.



Ralphy

*1*-Touch, *5*-Classics, *3*-Booms, *1*-UE Radio
'Squeezebox client builds'
(https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/) 'donations'
(https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=LL5P6365KQEXN&lc=CA&item_name=Squeezebox%20client%20builds¤cy_code=USD&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted)
always appreciated.

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Re: [slim] Returning squeezeboxer looking for server advice

2019-06-24 Thread boardtc


Jeff07971 wrote: 
> Not many people have called me patient !!! ;)
> 
> I do not know what you backed up and to where but there is a backup
> option in Daphile
> 
> 27574
> 
> Not sure if this will help you
> 
> 
> Jeff

Thanks Jeff! Previously when I had WHS I used the server as both
Squeezebox server and to do daily backups of a couple of household
machines on the network.

I'm unsure about setting network backup installs in parallel with using
Daphile as my OS...

That said I have not been able to copy music to the Daphile install yet.
I am still getting the same message as before though the OS is now
installed.

Tom.



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Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-24 Thread d6jg


Man in a van wrote: 
> HTTPS://WWW.RASPBERRYPI.ORG/ (\"HTTPS://WWW.RASPBERRYPI.ORG/\")
> 
> Haven't yet read the puff:eek:


I saw the announcement the other day. The increased RAM versions should
be ideal for an LMS server with storage via USB3



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[B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s
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-> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
*Dining Room* -> SB Boom 
*Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
*Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
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[slim] Pitastic

2019-06-24 Thread Man in a van


HTTPS://WWW.RASPBERRYPI.ORG/ (\"HTTPS://WWW.RASPBERRYPI.ORG/\")
Haven't yet read the puff:eek:



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Re: [slim] How Many Squeezeboxes still in use?

2019-06-24 Thread edwin2006


Well there is a sort of way by looking how many people are using apps
like squeeze cntrl, ipeng and Squeezelite-X.
Not sure if they are willing to share numbers.



*SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio
(Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x
piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch
(Study 2), few spare unit's
*Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21
*Network:* AVM Fritzbox, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity

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