Re: [slim] Amazon Echo question?

[marflao]

I got one Echo 4 in our kitchen connected with a 3,5 to RCA cable to a
Pi zero WH (with HB Dac Zero+) running pCP. This connection was used
before we got Spotify Family. Music is stored on a NAS (and another Pi
runs also LMS). 
Currently the preferred way is Spotify Connect with the Echo. 

To use the line in at the Echo, you just have to go to the Settings for
the Echo and choose "line-in" under the Aux Audio option. 
I'll use the Material Skin for instance and if I choose the Pi Zero as
the player the sound comes directly via the Echo. 
On the other hand, if I stop the song and say "Alexa, play [bla bla]"
then Spotify will be used and outputs it through the Echo. 

So pretty simple. 

My only hiccup - and this has nothing to do with your questions - is
that I am not able yet to "drop in" to the other Echo 4 which is in my
daughter's room. 
But this would be another thread I assume ;-)





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Re: [slim] Another zone | Squeezelite or something else?

[marflao]

Thanks ralphy, 
will have a look into that. 

Cheers, 
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Re: [slim] Another zone | Squeezelite or something else?

[marflao]

Alright ..I went ahead and used the details from "#15" and added them to
the "Environment Variables".
Also used a value for latency:

22658

While dxd files seem to be played now (playing time in the GUI is
running) I don´t get any sound while choosing Squeezeplay as the
player.
DSF files still won´t be played at all.

Further digging required ;-)


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Re: [slim] Another zone | Squeezelite or something else?

[marflao]

ralphy wrote: 
> Right click on the windows start menu, choose System, click Advanced
> systems settings and at the bottom there's a button labelled Environment
> Variables

Thanks Ralphy, found it.

Using the squeezelite-win.exe -l command the following output devices
are shown:


22655

Now my question is which one I should use? #3, #8, #11, #13 or #15?
I tend to use #15 since it seems to point to the correct driver (but
maybe I´m mistaken).

Although I´m not sure why there is sometimes "LH Labs Geek Out V2" and
then also "Geek Out 2A Signature 1.5" mentioned.




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Re: [slim] Another zone | Squeezelite or something else?

[marflao]

olivaar wrote: 
> As an alternative without an notebook:
> buy another raspberry pi with picoreplay + WLAN + dac + active speakers
> and a cheap android 7" tab (i bought mine for 70€: ODIS Miro, actual
> ODIS Nova 7)
> squeeze control app from logitech is also available on the google play
> store

I still have my SBT boxed (will use it for my little daughter when she
is a bit older) :-)
Orange Squeeze is already running on Nexus7 and Samsung tabs ..hence I´m
not in the market for additional "gadgets".

Thought the Notebbook approach is handy and even if I don´t get it set
up properly (to play all files inlcuding dxd and dsf) I guess I will use
it.
But would be nice though if all files will be played correctly (as via
the Pi2 in my living room system).



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Re: [slim] Another zone | Squeezelite or something else?

[marflao]

kidstypike wrote: 
> I would install Squeezeplay on your notebook, it acts as a Squeezebox,
> you can control it with you Orange Squeeze, web browser ect.. It also
> has Squeezebox Touch style user interface, and you can control all your
> other players with Squeezeplay.
> 
> 

Many thanks for your swift response.

Tried it. Downloaded the latest win exe file, started it and pointed it
during the setup process to my NAS. Bingo.

As you mentionend I can access it via the SBT user interface and could
also synchronize it with the Pi2.
At least songs with sample rates up to 24/192 are synchronized
correctly.

With dxd files it´s rebuffering all the time; dsf files won´t be played
via Squeezeplay.
Hence I assume the audio output is not set correctly since my USB dac is
capable of playing those songs.

Most likely this is set somewhere else then in the SBT-like-GUI, right?

Guess I have to dig a bit deeper into that post here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96573-SqueezePlay-for-Windows-with-ASIO-DirectSound-WASAPI-and-WDMKS-device-support&p=718893&viewfull=1#post718893

Can´t figure out currently where to change those mentioend "User
Environment Variables".

Thanks so far.



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[slim] Another zone | Squeezelite or something else?

[marflao]

Dear all,

need your expertise on the following:

in my living room I use a Pi2 w PicorePlayer and a Syno NAS on which LMS
7.9.0 is installed (and all my music is stored).

Now my thinking is to use my WIN 8.1 Notebook with an external USB Dac
connected to an active speaker (nothing fancy) at my patio (Notebook and
Pi2 should be "synched" then). I don´t strive for HighEnd sound but it
would be nice to listen to the same songs as from the living room system
;-)

Questions from my side are:

i) will "Squeezelite" (as described in
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?100893-HOW-TO-Squeezelite-player-on-Windows-8-step-by-step

) do the job?
ii) if the answer to i) is "Yes" can I also control this "patio zone"
via Orange Squeeze (which I already use for controlling the Pi2)?

In case Squeezelite is not the right choice for my intention what would
it be?

Many thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Markus



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

Once in a while I use the Logitech app on my phone but never digged
deeper into its feature. 
Usually I use OrangeSqueeze with my tablet.





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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

pippin wrote: 
> LMS does have a setting for this and for the last 5 years or so that
> setting has had a sensible default value. It's a bit beyond me why OS
> ignores it and only offers the old pre-7.4-behavior
Interesting.. Wasn't aware that this is possible at all.





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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

Sorry for the double post... Had some "connection to the server"  issues





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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

Ahh... Now I get you.  

I guess in your case you need then to click to the wanted song (after
you started to play the whole album).





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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

pippin wrote: 
> But you can only play it from the first track this way. This has always
> confused me in OrangeSqueeze.
Hmm.. maybe I made it not clear enough. 
Let me explain with the following example. 

I choosed "Album Artists" and selected an artist/group named alt-J. 
>From the two albums I have I want to hear "This Is All Yours". 
So I click on the little triangle and choose "Play" and the albums
starts to play (from the first until the last song of its album). 

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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

If you choose your album press the little white triangle at the lower
right bottom and you'll find several options (play,  play next,...). 
Press "Play" and the album is started to play.





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Re: [slim] Roon, a SqueezeBox ecosystem alternative ?

[marflao]

volpone wrote: 
> From my limited understanding on SB devices support as Roon endpoints
> (due to not enough information from RoonLabs):
> 
> - You need to subscribe to Roon service and install Roon Core server
> (annual or lifetime subscription, not free !). 
> - Only Mac and Win Roon versions available. Headless Linux version are
> on the way but no timeline and due to Roon server requirements on CPU
> and RAM only very few powerfull NAS will be compatible.
> - SB devices support (SB3, Touch, Boom ...) is only one way: SB devices
> as "passive" endpoints for Roon audio streams, no control and commands
> (i hope some "now playing" metadata on SB devices screens but i'm not
> sure).
> 
> So it's not a real SB ecossystem alternative but however very usefull
> for people using Roon and SB devices (and squeezelite).
> 
> I'm a long time LMS / SB user and i will continue to use it in parallel
> with Roon due to some SB ecosystem capabilities not supported in Roon
> (mainly radio support and some others functions available via plugins) 
> 
> More to come when RoonLabs released the new SB compatible version (i
> hope in 2015 :eek:)
> Some informations are available on this this thread
> https://community.roonlabs.com/t/squeezebox-support/1043
> 
> Regards

OK...will keep an eye on it once the Linux version will be available. 

Thanks so far.





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Re: [slim] Roon, a SqueezeBox ecosystem alternative ?

[marflao]

Hi volpone, 

I must admit that I haven't followed the Roon/Squeezebox integrations
totally. 

To be able to use Roon streaming would it mean that instead of a LMS
version Roon needs to be installed? 
Will this be a kind of Roon server version which can be installed on a
Nas or is the installation only possible on pc/Mac? 

In case it can be installed on a Nas is there some prerequisite on the
Nas side therefore dsd can be played? 

I'm asking this because I thought I would be able to play dsf files via
my Synology (pinkdots LMS version) /SBT combo but due to the fact that
my Nas is "too old" (not the right Arm version) it didn't work out.





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Re: [slim] Media Server Can't Connect to Synology

[marflao]

Have you checked if the LMS package on your NAS is running? 

That's the issue I'm facing once in a while when I can't connect to LMS.





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Re: [slim] DSD playback via Logitechmediaserver using Squeezebox Touch or Wandboard

[marflao]

Thanks WadDad,

My old English used to say (when i missed the beginning of the lesson):
"Better late than never." :-)

So thanks for your respond. Much appreciated.





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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

Cool!!!

@ Ben (in case he is scanning this thread ;-)):

I don´t know if this was already mentioned here in case "Yes" pls bear
with me.
Once I upload new music to my NAS I open LMS and perfom a "Rescan"
(Basic Settings => Rescan Media Library)
After this is done I grab my tablet and "Refresh" the Categories Albums,
Artists, Genres & New Music in OrangeSqueeze.

Done that I see for instance the new uploaded album in "New Music".
The strange thing is that some time later (probably with a new start of
the app?!? Not 100% sure when this really occurs) the latest uploaded
(and refreshed) album isn´t iisted anymore in "New Music". 

Any clue why this happens?

Thanks in advance.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

ahh...I see...

But I guess just for another grid you won´t upgrade the NAS, or? ;-)



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

Can´t you install LMS on your NAS?
Or is one of the current LMS versions not able to run on it?



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

stof77 wrote: 
> not exactly but he told me about his infos LMS 7.8 & 2 third party
> plugins : Custom Browse & Music Artist Info
> 
> & asked about mine which is SBS 7.5.3 on NAS SynoDS107+ & no third party
> plugins
> 
> 
> 
> thanks, I guess your Nas is newer than mine ?
> btw what's EDO ?

My Syno is a DS 213.

EDO = Enhanced Digital Output => allows you to play files up to 24/192
via the Touch (standard is 24/96) ;-)



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

Hmmdid Ben mention that other 3rd party apps might have an impact on
the grid appearance?? Hmminteresting..

If I check my Active Plugins on my LMS I see following 3rd party apps: 
- Network test (v1.0)
- Playlist Manager (v6.0)
- Song Scanner (v2.0)
- UPnP/DNLA Media Interface (v1.0)

But honestly I don´t use them currently (and I don´t know if I ever used
them before ;-)).
And last but not least of course EDO (but this is not listed in the
plugin list?!?!)

Wrt the LMS..I have v7.7.3 installed on my Syno NAS and my Touch´s FW
7.7.3-r16676.

Hope that helps.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

I´m not 100% sure but give this a try:
Preferences => Advanced => Browse Column Count 

I have "2" selected.

Might have also an impact for landscape mode. ;-)



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

Genre is a bit different as you can see:

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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

OK...here some screenshots "Folder browsing" (i have three folders on my
NAS with the related files: dsf, flac, mp3)





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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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Ok...so far from my memory ;-)
Once you press "Genre" you'll see all the different ones (e.g. Jazz,
Electronic) but so far no covers.
Once you press a certain Genre you'll see all the different albums (with
a small cover).
But i will have a look at it later and make some screenshots to assure
how it looks.





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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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Genre browsing works based on your "tags".
If you have a look at the app in the Google Play store one of the first
screenshots is the overview what can be "browsed". 
Another screenshot gives you a feeling of the album cover size (the one
in portrait mode). In landscape mode the cover pic will take half of my
Tab's screen size...definitely big enough ;-)





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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

Don't know for sure because i usually don't use the folder browsing.
Will check it in the afternoon.





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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

Hi,

i can confirm that folder browsing is possible with Orange Squeeze.
Besides that you can browse Artists, Albums, Genres, Years, New Music,
Random Mix and Playlists.

Wrt to landscape modus...yesusing it all the time with my Nexus 7.





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Re: [slim] Synology DSM upgrade to 4.3/5.0 | Any impact on SBT?

[marflao]

With v7.7.3-035 I´m referring to the "package" on my NAS.

Guess you will be able to update to it once you installed DSM 5.0

Check this:
http://www.synology.com/en-us/releaseNote/package/SqueezeCenter



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Re: [slim] Synology DSM upgrade to 4.3/5.0 | Any impact on SBT?

[marflao]

Hmmmsorry to hear that.

I´m currently running DSM 5.0-4493 and LMS 7.7.3-035...so far so good.
Nothing to complain yet.



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Re: [slim] DSD playback via Logitechmediaserver using Squeezebox Touch or Wandboard

[marflao]

audiomuze wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 3. After restarting Foobar you should see "SACD" under
> "File->preferences ->Tools" within Foobar
> 
> Set up as follows:
> 
> [image:
> http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee434/audiomuze/foobardsd_zps699a12e0.png]
> 
> 
> 

I already asked this in another forum but since I haven´t received any
feedback yet I´d like to post it here, too.

The question I have is regarding the Foobar settings, in particular the
PCM Sample Rate setting. 
Should this always be set to 176400 (regardless if it´s a DSD64 or
DSD128 or even higher DSD file/album)??

Thanks in advance.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

[marflao]

Thanks for that.





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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

[marflao]

Regarding the Pi/HiFi Berry combo... Is anybody aware if there are cases
for it available?





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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

A BIG THANK YOU from my side for the new preview version. 

It doesn't crash at the start, newly added albums are visible right
after pressing the "New Music" symbol (in earlier version I always
needed to "refresh" it) and the current playlist is back again ;-) 

Great... Love it.





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Re: [slim] Synology DSM upgrade to 4.3/5.0 | Any impact on SBT?

[marflao]

OK... thread can be closed ;-) 

I upgraded from DSM 4.1 to 4.3 at first. Then updated as proposed LMS. 
After that I upgraded to DSM5 and updated afterwards as proposed LMS &
the Perl app to the latest versions. 
The SBT needed also the latest version. 

So far everything runs and sounds brilliant as before. 
Cheers.





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[slim] Synology DSM upgrade to 4.3/5.0 | Any impact on SBT?

[marflao]

Hi, 
don't know if this is the right forum (maybe "Touch" or "LMS" is
better?) for my request. 
If not pls move it to the correct one. 

I'm current running LMS (Version 7.7.7-006) on my Syno DS213 NAS (with
DSM 4.1-2668) and everything works like a charm. 
And although everything is fine I'm tempted to upgrade to DSM 4.3-3827.
This version is shown in the Syno GUI as the one I could upgrade to. I
would expect that v5.0 will be shown as the next upgradable once 4.3 is
installed. 

Question now to other Touch/Syno owners: have you done those "upgrades"
(all the way to DSM 5.0) without any negative impact on the Touch? Will
the Touch behave like the situation before the upgrades? 

Would really appreciate your experience here. 
Thanks in advance.





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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

I have a problem with the latest beta: once I start the app on my Nexus
7 (2013, Android 4.2.2) it crashes. 
After deinstalling /installing the app the problem remains. 

Does anybody else have the same issue?





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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

sbp wrote: 
> Hi I have a few questions about the new GUI.
> Where can I find the now playing screen?
> where can I find the playlist, and how do I remove a song from the
> list?
> 
> steen

Yep..I´m in the same situation...neither that I can find the "current
playlist" anymore nor that I would be able to delete a certain song from
that list besides the one which is currently playing. 
In addition to that whenever I start the app I get this "No players
found" pic (although it´s only for a split second).

Besides that I really like the app.

Cheers.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

[marflao]

Many thanks for your answer, John.





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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

[marflao]

Thanks for that, John.
Indeed, I have a NAS in place although it's not the most powerful.
Therefore I'll keep your remark regarding running LMS on the CSP
definitely in mind.

I still have another question regarding the connection between CSP and
DAC. 
Would there be a problem to use a spdif cable with BNC on one end (CSP)
and RCA on the other (DAC)? And what would be the highest bitrates if I
would use SPDIF instead of USB?





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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

[marflao]

Thanks for your swift response. 
Exactly what I was looking for (and not starting a DSD debate ;-))





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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

[marflao]

JackOfAll wrote: 
> Yes, no soldering required.
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, you'll probably need to source the Wandboard and power supply
> yourself. The chassis It's an off-the-shelf Hammond extruded
> aluminium chassis available from most electronics distributors. A
> bespoke rear panel for the case, will be available separately and with
> the JS carrier DAC board, which will be sold by a UK and a US
> distributor

I hope you don´t mind if I jump in here ;-)

The CSP2 sounds very interesting and I guess I will get one too, once it
will be available.

I got one question for which I couldn´t find an answer on the Community
Squeeze pages (or did I miss this ?!?!). In case this has already been
asked (and answered) pls forgive me asking it again: what kind of
formats will the CSP2 be able to play/handle (in my case all music will
be stored on a Syno NAS)? Assuming the external DAC is capable of DXD &
DSD will this also be handled by the CSP2?

I don´t want´to start a new "DSD or not DSD" debate here but I´m just
curious what the WB/CSP2 will be capable of.
Personally I haven´t listened to any DXD or DSD files yet and I´m not
sure if I would hear the difference to a 24bit something song. But I
might would give it a try to find out myself ;-)

Thanks in advance for your feedback and looking forward to the final
product ;-)



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

pinkdot wrote: 
> Yes also occurs with other downloads here. A restart of my device did
> the trick.

Thanks for that. I'll keep that in mind for the next time. 
I helped myself with deinstall and than reinstall of the app. ;-)





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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

[marflao]

Morning all, just downloaded the latest version of the preview for my
Nexus 7 II. DL was fine but it appears that the installation doesn't
end. Anybody else facing the same situation?





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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

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Peter Galbavy wrote: 
> I'm lost in the preview... is there anyway to get a LIST in the tablet
> version? I can only see a grid and cannot find a menu option / setting
> to switch to list - I don't have enough art work over 2000+ albums to
> want a grid.

Yep...would be my wish, too.
And.maybe it would also be possible to change the size of the album
covers manually? ;-)

In addition to that new uploaded albums aren´t shown automatically. Once
I start Orange Squeeze and choose "New Music" I still need to use the
"Refresh" option to be able to see them.
Don´t know if this a bug but would be great if this can be fixed (or
implemented) anyways.

Besides that I like the app :-) 

Cheers,
marflao

P.S.: I use the app with a Nexus 7 (2012 model).



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Re: [slim] Announce: Community Squeeze

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JackOfAll wrote: 
> Correct! 
> 
> 
> 
> Right now, before the John Swenson DAC board is released which will have
> an electrical SPDIF output, the default Wandboard carrier board has a
> TOSLINK out, but does not have a COAX SPDIF out.
> 
> 
> 
> The current audio (software) driver limits the output from the TOSLINK
> to 48k. But if you wanted an electrical SPDIF out prior to the release
> of the JS DAC carrier board, there are plenty of options for USB to
> SPDIF converters that you could plug into the Wandboard USB port, so you
> would be able to hook up your current DAC via electrical SPDIF and
> depending on the converter you chose, it would support higher sample
> rates.

Thanks for the quick reply. I really appreciate that!!

Cheers, 
marflao



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Re: [slim] Announce: Community Squeeze

[marflao]

Hi everybody,

as far as I understood it the wandboard could be used as an altenative
or substitute streaming device for a SB device.

So let´s assume my beloved Touch will go to the happy hunting ground
would I then be able to play my music - which is stored on a Syno NAS -
via the wandboard (which would be connected to my DAC via Spdif cable)?

If the answer would be "Yes" is there a limitiation regarding the
bitrates (e. g. flacs > 24/96 won´t be played)?
Any other restraints I should keep in mind?

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

Cheers,
marflao



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