Re: [Dovecot] any limitations running on a Mac?
On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:42 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: On 26.2.2010, at 3.50, Terry Barnum wrote: I looked at the wiki on dbox but shied away from it because the compatibility matrix said postfix didn't like it. Did I read that wrong? You need to be delivering mails with Dovecot LDA when using dbox. And that might help improve performance even when you're using maildir. Did you use macports to build dovecot? Yes. 1.2.10. You could try if maildir_very_dirty_syncs=yes helps. With v2.0+ mdbox will probably work very nicely. dbox (with v1.x or v2.0) still uses one file/message and I guess if you had trouble with 5k+ messages in a mailbox with Maildir, you'll probably hit the same slowness with dbox. Will there be a way to convert from dbox t mdbox in version v2.0+? // Brad
Re: [Dovecot] any limitations running on a Mac?
On 26.2.2010, at 3.50, Terry Barnum wrote: > I looked at the wiki on dbox but shied away from it because the compatibility > matrix said postfix didn't like it. Did I read that wrong? You need to be delivering mails with Dovecot LDA when using dbox. And that might help improve performance even when you're using maildir. >> Did you use macports to build dovecot? > > Yes. 1.2.10. You could try if maildir_very_dirty_syncs=yes helps. With v2.0+ mdbox will probably work very nicely. dbox (with v1.x or v2.0) still uses one file/message and I guess if you had trouble with 5k+ messages in a mailbox with Maildir, you'll probably hit the same slowness with dbox.
[Dovecot] What does mailman do with a 'post' command?
Dear list, I am sorry if this question should not be posted here, but I believe that there are many experts of postfix or any other thing such as mailing lists in this list. I am kind of in hurry and need some advices to know about my questions. Could anyone in this list please answer my questions if you know. My questions are about routing work of mailman. As I am not quite fimiliar with the use of mailman, I am sorry if this is a stupid question. One of my customer gets the following log message into /var/log/maillog at around 12:00 every day. -- 12:00:04 relay postfix/pickup[6279]: 244811C805C: uid=41 from= 12:00:04 relay postfix/cleanup[21529]: 244811C805C: message-id=<20100215030004.244811c8...@example.co.jp> 12:00:04 relay postfix/qmgr[20068]: 244811C805C: from=, size=1728, nrcpt=1 (queue active) 12:00:04 relay postfix/local[21232]: 244811C805C: to=, orig_to=, relay=local, delay=0.17, delays=0.05/0/0/0.12, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman) This message seems that it delivers a command '/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post' to execute against the mailman mailing list, however, the customer never use mailman mailing list on their system. One thing that I doubt is that a cronjob in /etc/cron.d/mailman does something relevant of this because the post time of the messages is always reight after the following work. -- 0 12 * * * mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests or 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news --- I'm afraid that I don't have /etc/mailman/aliases file of cutomer's, but by default(in my test env), it should looks like below. # STANZA START: mailman # CREATED: Mon Jan 25 16:48:18 2010 mailman: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" mailman-admin: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman" mailman-bounces: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman" mailman-confirm: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman" mailman-join: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman" mailman-leave: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman" mailman-owner: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman" mailman-request: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman" mailman-subscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman" mailman-unsubscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman" # STANZA END: mailman My questions are as follows. 1.What exactly is the cause the message in /var/log/maillog? 2.Why does the messages send to mailman(mail...@example.co.jp) user even though that mailing list never be used? OS:RHEL5 postfix-2.3.3-2.1.el5_2 mailman-2.1.9-4.el5 Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Best Regards, -- --- Masaharu Kawada Associate Technical Support Engineer Red Hat K K Ebisu Neonato 5F 1-18 Ebisu 4-chome, Shibuya-ku Tokyo 150-0013, Japan Direct: +81-3-5798-8482
Re: [Dovecot] any limitations running on a Mac?
On Feb 25, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > > On Feb 25, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Terry Barnum wrote: > >> On Feb 25, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: >> >>> On Feb 25, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Terry Barnum wrote: >>> I have postfix/dovecot/mysql installed using MacPorts on a quad-core 2.8GHz MacPro running Snow Leopard (10.6.2). I moved the base mail directory to a pair of 10k RPM Raptors that are mirrored (/Volumes/email/) and everything seems to be working fine on an unused domain with very little traffic. I used imapsync to pull everything from the current mailserver to this test server to play with. Our current mailserver's IMAP performance *really* suffers when an IMAP folder exceeds ~500MB or ~5k messages. I've become very tired of being the mailbox police trying to get my 20 users to delete email or divide into smaller mailboxes. Are there folks on the list running postfix/dovecot on similar Mac hardware that can share their experiences? Specifically, are there any limitations (file descriptors, other?) that can impact performance I should be aware of? How does dovecot on the Mac deal with >500GB maildirs? Is there a recommended tool for loading and testing the server? Postal? I have 20 IMAP users, with a total of ~37GB of mail currently. Thanks for any help and insight. >>> >>> Mac OS X 10.5.8 >>> dovecot 1.2.9 >>> Two mirrored 7200rpm sata drives. >>> dbox mailbox format >> >> Thanks Brad. What hardware is this running on? Also, are you using the plain >> vanilla Apple RAID tool for mirroring or something else like SoftRAID? > > > DP G5 2Ghz. > 5.5GB ram. > Apple Disk Utility software RAID 1. > > Users are virtual in mysql. > I also have a fairly busy application hitting mysql. Mysql seems to be > cacheing around 120 threads which is less the config max and I usually have a > around 700MB of free memory. > > User Inbox count around 200 on 20 domains but we are a Print company and have > to except large attachments and store indefinitely. I looked at the wiki on dbox but shied away from it because the compatibility matrix said postfix didn't like it. Did I read that wrong? Would you mind sharing your postfix -n and dovecot -n? Edited and offlist would be fine. > Did you use macports to build dovecot? Yes. 1.2.10. > If so I'm working of some new packages you may be interested in. Mostly > dovecot-sieve and dovecot-managesieve. I have started to look at sieve and can see how it could be useful for my iPhone users. Currently they have to leave Mail.app running on their desktop to sort mail into IMAP folders since the phone doesn't have any sort by rules filters. So yes, I'm interested. > Your welcome to hit me up off list if you have some non-dovecot questions. > I'm small time compared to many here but I love dovecot and won't be looking > elsewhere till I come home broke and bleeding. > > > // Brad > Terry Barnum digital OutPost San Diego, CA http://www.dop.com 800/464-6434
Re: [Dovecot] any limitations running on a Mac?
On Feb 25, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Terry Barnum wrote: On Feb 25, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: On Feb 25, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Terry Barnum wrote: I have postfix/dovecot/mysql installed using MacPorts on a quad- core 2.8GHz MacPro running Snow Leopard (10.6.2). I moved the base mail directory to a pair of 10k RPM Raptors that are mirrored (/ Volumes/email/) and everything seems to be working fine on an unused domain with very little traffic. I used imapsync to pull everything from the current mailserver to this test server to play with. Our current mailserver's IMAP performance *really* suffers when an IMAP folder exceeds ~500MB or ~5k messages. I've become very tired of being the mailbox police trying to get my 20 users to delete email or divide into smaller mailboxes. Are there folks on the list running postfix/dovecot on similar Mac hardware that can share their experiences? Specifically, are there any limitations (file descriptors, other?) that can impact performance I should be aware of? How does dovecot on the Mac deal with >500GB maildirs? Is there a recommended tool for loading and testing the server? Postal? I have 20 IMAP users, with a total of ~37GB of mail currently. Thanks for any help and insight. Mac OS X 10.5.8 dovecot 1.2.9 Two mirrored 7200rpm sata drives. dbox mailbox format Thanks Brad. What hardware is this running on? Also, are you using the plain vanilla Apple RAID tool for mirroring or something else like SoftRAID? DP G5 2Ghz. 5.5GB ram. Apple Disk Utility software RAID 1. Users are virtual in mysql. I also have a fairly busy application hitting mysql. Mysql seems to be cacheing around 120 threads which is less the config max and I usually have a around 700MB of free memory. User Inbox count around 200 on 20 domains but we are a Print company and have to except large attachments and store indefinitely. Did you use macports to build dovecot? If so I'm working of some new packages you may be interested in. Mostly dovecot-sieve and dovecot-managesieve. Your welcome to hit me up off list if you have some non-dovecot questions. I'm small time compared to many here but I love dovecot and won't be looking elsewhere till I come home broke and bleeding. // Brad
Re: [Dovecot] any limitations running on a Mac?
On Feb 25, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > On Feb 25, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Terry Barnum wrote: > >> I have postfix/dovecot/mysql installed using MacPorts on a quad-core 2.8GHz >> MacPro running Snow Leopard (10.6.2). I moved the base mail directory to a >> pair of 10k RPM Raptors that are mirrored (/Volumes/email/) and everything >> seems to be working fine on an unused domain with very little traffic. I >> used imapsync to pull everything from the current mailserver to this test >> server to play with. >> >> Our current mailserver's IMAP performance *really* suffers when an IMAP >> folder exceeds ~500MB or ~5k messages. I've become very tired of being the >> mailbox police trying to get my 20 users to delete email or divide into >> smaller mailboxes. >> >> Are there folks on the list running postfix/dovecot on similar Mac hardware >> that can share their experiences? Specifically, are there any limitations >> (file descriptors, other?) that can impact performance I should be aware of? >> How does dovecot on the Mac deal with >500GB maildirs? >> >> Is there a recommended tool for loading and testing the server? Postal? >> >> I have 20 IMAP users, with a total of ~37GB of mail currently. >> >> Thanks for any help and insight. > > Mac OS X 10.5.8 > dovecot 1.2.9 > Two mirrored 7200rpm sata drives. > dbox mailbox format Thanks Brad. What hardware is this running on? Also, are you using the plain vanilla Apple RAID tool for mirroring or something else like SoftRAID? > My Inbox is 3.5G on disk and I'm happy with my performance. > Mail.app took 8 sec. to search my Inbox for "postfix" but caches mail. > Telnet imap login took 55 sec. for 'search text "postfix"'. > New mail notifications in Mail.app are near instant. I know your old box > fails here. > > > // Brad > Terry Barnum digital OutPost San Diego, CA http://www.dop.com 800/464-6434
Re: [Dovecot] any limitations running on a Mac?
On Feb 25, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Terry Barnum wrote: I have postfix/dovecot/mysql installed using MacPorts on a quad-core 2.8GHz MacPro running Snow Leopard (10.6.2). I moved the base mail directory to a pair of 10k RPM Raptors that are mirrored (/Volumes/ email/) and everything seems to be working fine on an unused domain with very little traffic. I used imapsync to pull everything from the current mailserver to this test server to play with. Our current mailserver's IMAP performance *really* suffers when an IMAP folder exceeds ~500MB or ~5k messages. I've become very tired of being the mailbox police trying to get my 20 users to delete email or divide into smaller mailboxes. Are there folks on the list running postfix/dovecot on similar Mac hardware that can share their experiences? Specifically, are there any limitations (file descriptors, other?) that can impact performance I should be aware of? How does dovecot on the Mac deal with >500GB maildirs? Is there a recommended tool for loading and testing the server? Postal? I have 20 IMAP users, with a total of ~37GB of mail currently. Thanks for any help and insight. Mac OS X 10.5.8 dovecot 1.2.9 Two mirrored 7200rpm sata drives. dbox mailbox format My Inbox is 3.5G on disk and I'm happy with my performance. Mail.app took 8 sec. to search my Inbox for "postfix" but caches mail. Telnet imap login took 55 sec. for 'search text "postfix"'. New mail notifications in Mail.app are near instant. I know your old box fails here. // Brad
[Dovecot] any limitations running on a Mac?
I have postfix/dovecot/mysql installed using MacPorts on a quad-core 2.8GHz MacPro running Snow Leopard (10.6.2). I moved the base mail directory to a pair of 10k RPM Raptors that are mirrored (/Volumes/email/) and everything seems to be working fine on an unused domain with very little traffic. I used imapsync to pull everything from the current mailserver to this test server to play with. Our current mailserver's IMAP performance *really* suffers when an IMAP folder exceeds ~500MB or ~5k messages. I've become very tired of being the mailbox police trying to get my 20 users to delete email or divide into smaller mailboxes. Are there folks on the list running postfix/dovecot on similar Mac hardware that can share their experiences? Specifically, are there any limitations (file descriptors, other?) that can impact performance I should be aware of? How does dovecot on the Mac deal with >500GB maildirs? Is there a recommended tool for loading and testing the server? Postal? I have 20 IMAP users, with a total of ~37GB of mail currently. Thanks for any help and insight. -Terry Terry Barnum digital OutPost San Diego, CA http://www.dop.com 800/464-6434
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
On 2/25/2010 4:35 PM, Carlos Williams wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Brian Hayden wrote: You need to: 1. Remove your subscriptions file. This I did. Now I can no longer see from the client side any of my IMAP folders. 2. Set your client to ignore subscriptions and view all folders. I logged into my webmail and in the main mailbox view all my IMAP folders except for Inbox and the default ones were missing. I then opened up the folders settings option and 'subscribed' to all the folders I didn't see in my main mailbox view. Once I enabled 'subscription' via webmail, I could then see all my folders again. Is this wrong? You stated the opposite should be done. I would think if they were not selected for subscription, I would see them but it appears to be the other way around. How can I see my messages on my email client with out the 'subscriptions' file in my Maildir? I am assuming this questions' answer varies depending on what client we're talking about, no? 3. Then, and only then, settle on a server configuration (including any namespaces you may choose to use), and then re-subscribe to folders in your client (if you are going to insist on using subscriptions). It's impossible to get your server configuration correct if you're judging the user-visible side by a client using legacy subscriptions, particularly if the subscriptions file is in an unreliable state (as it sounds like yours is--as most of them almost always are). I just can't see how to get any IMAP client to read IMAP folders w/o that 'subscriptions' file. It appears that it looks for it or is in some way dependent on this file. Am I wrong? The subscriptions file is technically optional. For instance, Thunderbird has a setting to either use nor not use it. If TB uses subscriptions then you need to subscribe to all folders that you want to see. Otherwise it will show all folders. Dunno about your webmail, however as an example SquirrelMail uses subscriptions, no way around it. With this combination, I'd enable webmail subscriptions and disable TB's use of subscriptions. For TB if you want to ignore subscriptions, go into your Account Settings, select Server Settings under the correct account, click the Advanced button in the Server Settings sub-box, and uncheck "Show only subscribed folders". Leeman
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
On Feb 25, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Carlos Williams wrote: I logged into my webmail and in the main mailbox view all my IMAP folders except for Inbox and the default ones were missing. I then opened up the folders settings option and 'subscribed' to all the folders I didn't see in my main mailbox view. Once I enabled 'subscription' via webmail, I could then see all my folders again. Is this wrong? You stated the opposite should be done. How you handle your client for day-to-day viewing is up to you. I outlined what you need to do to control outside variables if your goal is to evaluate the fitness of a server configuration. I just can't see how to get any IMAP client to read IMAP folders w/o that 'subscriptions' file. It appears that it looks for it or is in some way dependent on this file. Am I wrong? All clients except some versions of Outlook Express/Vista "Mail" have a configuration option for "Show only subscribed folders". In Thunderbird it's on by default. -Brian
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Brian Hayden wrote: > You need to: > > 1. Remove your subscriptions file. This I did. Now I can no longer see from the client side any of my IMAP folders. > 2. Set your client to ignore subscriptions and view all folders. I logged into my webmail and in the main mailbox view all my IMAP folders except for Inbox and the default ones were missing. I then opened up the folders settings option and 'subscribed' to all the folders I didn't see in my main mailbox view. Once I enabled 'subscription' via webmail, I could then see all my folders again. Is this wrong? You stated the opposite should be done. I would think if they were not selected for subscription, I would see them but it appears to be the other way around. How can I see my messages on my email client with out the 'subscriptions' file in my Maildir? I am assuming this questions' answer varies depending on what client we're talking about, no? > 3. Then, and only then, settle on a server configuration (including any > namespaces you may choose to use), and then re-subscribe to folders in your > client (if you are going to insist on using subscriptions). > > It's impossible to get your server configuration correct if you're judging > the user-visible side by a client using legacy subscriptions, particularly > if the subscriptions file is in an unreliable state (as it sounds like yours > is--as most of them almost always are). I just can't see how to get any IMAP client to read IMAP folders w/o that 'subscriptions' file. It appears that it looks for it or is in some way dependent on this file. Am I wrong?
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
On Feb 25, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Carlos Williams wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Rick Romero wrote: The subscriptions file is only used by the MUAs, and you can set them to ignore it. I would just tell the MUAs to ignore it. You can safely delete it - except if you have an MUA that is using it then the folders will disappear... I suppose if you have a PDA and a huge folder structure you might have the PDA use subscriptions and trim down the folder list... I would 'start fresh' and remove it. When I remove this file, my mail clients (webmail & Thunderbird) no longer see any of my sub folders. How can I remove this file if it holds obsolete data and still be able to see my Inbox sub folders? I reverted back to my original dovecot.conf file as when I posted my original. No changes basically have been made. When I add your suggestion for namespace to my config, I for some reason then have a main Inbox folder in my mail client and then it has a subdirectory called inbox and that has all my IMAP folders listed. So it's a bit redundant for the Inbox folder only. You need to: 1. Remove your subscriptions file. 2. Set your client to ignore subscriptions and view all folders. 3. Then, and only then, settle on a server configuration (including any namespaces you may choose to use), and then re-subscribe to folders in your client (if you are going to insist on using subscriptions). It's impossible to get your server configuration correct if you're judging the user-visible side by a client using legacy subscriptions, particularly if the subscriptions file is in an unreliable state (as it sounds like yours is--as most of them almost always are). -Brian
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Rick Romero wrote: > The subscriptions file is only used by the MUAs, and you can set them to > ignore it. I would just tell the MUAs to ignore it. You can safely delete > it - except if you have an MUA that is using it then the folders will > disappear... > > I suppose if you have a PDA and a huge folder structure you might have the > PDA use subscriptions and trim down the folder list... > > I would 'start fresh' and remove it. When I remove this file, my mail clients (webmail & Thunderbird) no longer see any of my sub folders. How can I remove this file if it holds obsolete data and still be able to see my Inbox sub folders? I reverted back to my original dovecot.conf file as when I posted my original. No changes basically have been made. When I add your suggestion for namespace to my config, I for some reason then have a main Inbox folder in my mail client and then it has a subdirectory called inbox and that has all my IMAP folders listed. So it's a bit redundant for the Inbox folder only.
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
Quoting "Carlos Williams" : On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Rick Romero wrote: Yikes! I thought this was a private install. :( The namespace would be a pretty radical change. It tells dovecot how to present folders. I'm not a namespace guru - but I'm fairly sure that's the issue. http://wiki.dovecot.org/Namespaces I would suggest creating an alternate config file, using different ports and system directories, to test a namespace change. It's OK. It appears to not have impacted any existing data. Perhaps just changes how the new folders are managed. Yep. I did see a file in my Maildir called 'subscriptions' and when I opened it with a text editor, it had the old invalid IMAP directory structure...should I delete or rename this file on my mailbox and then restart the client to force it to re-build this subscriptions file? The subscriptions file is only used by the MUAs, and you can set them to ignore it. I would just tell the MUAs to ignore it. You can safely delete it - except if you have an MUA that is using it then the folders will disappear... I suppose if you have a PDA and a huge folder structure you might have the PDA use subscriptions and trim down the folder list... I would 'start fresh' and remove it.
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
Quoting "Carlos Williams" :
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Carlos Williams
wrote:
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Rick Romero wrote:
Try adding a namespace.
namespace private {
separator = .
prefix = INBOX.
inbox = yes
}
I made that change and reloaded Dovecot and all my users on the mail
server lost the folders...
Sorry - I was wrong. This didn't remove anything from my server. I
guess it helps when you issue the ls -la command. I was just being
paranoid. My question now is how do I clean up my Maildir/ to how it
should be?
No problem - it's the display that was changed due to the namespace config.
Right now after the change and successfully restarting IMAP, I have
the following directory when I login to Linux. I haven't opened up any
mail clients yet...
Do your users have their mailboxes back? That's the first thing. If
you're the only one with a funky layout, then forget yours, and get
theirs back to normal. :)
So instead of changing the namespace, I suppose it would be better to
conform your mailbox to what the server expects. So I guess I'd do:
mv .INBOX.CDW .CDW
mv .INBOX.Dell .Dell
mv .INBOX.Dell.Certification .Dell.Certification
etc etc etc
Your .INBOX/ directory should contain cur/ new/ and tmp/ directories,
where you can move/copy the individual emails into your
~home/Maildir/cur/ new/tmp/
Maybe you had a MUA with a .INBOX prefix set, and when you created
your folders, it stuck that in there... ?
Rick
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Rick Romero wrote: > Yikes! I thought this was a private install. :( The namespace would be a > pretty radical change. It tells dovecot how to present folders. > > I'm not a namespace guru - but I'm fairly sure that's the issue. > http://wiki.dovecot.org/Namespaces > > I would suggest creating an alternate config file, using different ports and > system directories, to test a namespace change. It's OK. It appears to not have impacted any existing data. Perhaps just changes how the new folders are managed. I did see a file in my Maildir called 'subscriptions' and when I opened it with a text editor, it had the old invalid IMAP directory structure...should I delete or rename this file on my mailbox and then restart the client to force it to re-build this subscriptions file?
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
Quoting "Carlos Williams" :
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Rick Romero wrote:
Try adding a namespace.
namespace private {
separator = .
prefix = INBOX.
inbox = yes
}
I made that change and reloaded Dovecot and all my users on the mail
server lost the folders...
Yikes! I thought this was a private install. :( The namespace would
be a pretty radical change. It tells dovecot how to present folders.
I'm not a namespace guru - but I'm fairly sure that's the issue.
http://wiki.dovecot.org/Namespaces
I would suggest creating an alternate config file, using different
ports and system directories, to test a namespace change.
Rick
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Carlos Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Rick Romero wrote:
>> Try adding a namespace.
>>
>> namespace private {
>> separator = .
>> prefix = INBOX.
>> inbox = yes
>> }
>
> I made that change and reloaded Dovecot and all my users on the mail
> server lost the folders...
Sorry - I was wrong. This didn't remove anything from my server. I
guess it helps when you issue the ls -la command. I was just being
paranoid. My question now is how do I clean up my Maildir/ to how it
should be?
Right now after the change and successfully restarting IMAP, I have
the following directory when I login to Linux. I haven't opened up any
mail clients yet...
[r...@mail Maildir]# ls -la
total 496
drwx-- 32 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 15:01 .
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 23 13:24 ..
drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 53248 Feb 25 13:41 cur
-rw--- 1 cwilliams it 1288 Feb 25 13:41 dovecot.index
-rw--- 1 cwilliams it 65952 Feb 25 13:41 dovecot.index.cache
-rw--- 1 cwilliams it 55636 Feb 25 13:42 dovecot.index.log
-rw--- 1 cwilliams it 131124 Feb 10 16:18 dovecot.index.log.2
-rw--- 1 cwilliams it121 Jul 15 2009 dovecot-keywords
-rw--- 1 cwilliams it 8190 Feb 25 13:13 dovecot-uidlist
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 12:47 .Drafts
drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 13:27 .INBOX
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 14:53 .INBOX.CDW
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 08:55 .INBOX.ClamAV
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 14:54 .INBOX.Dell
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 14:54 .INBOX.Dell.Certification
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 14:54 .INBOX.Dell.Quotes
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 08:54 .INBOX.Dell.Warranty
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 08:55 .INBOX.IBM
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 14:54 .INBOX.Logs.Clearcase
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 08:54 .INBOX.Logs.Clearquest
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 14:54 .INBOX.Maintenance Weekend
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 14:54 .INBOX.Red Hat
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 23 09:26 .INBOX.Symantec
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 14:54 .INBOX.Verisign
drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 32768 Feb 25 13:13 new
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 14:53 .Sent
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 17 08:37 .Spam
-rw--- 1 cwilliams it393 Feb 23 10:23 subscriptions
drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 13:13 tmp
drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 14:11 .Trash
[Dovecot] Thunderbird 3.0.2 released (CONDSTORE fixed)
Just wanted to mentioned that those of you who were having issues with unread messages in Thunderbird should see your problem fixed with TB 3.0.2 that was released today. http://www.rumblingedge.com/2010/02/25/thunderbird-3-0-2-released/ If you previously turned off CONDSTORE support, don't forget to enable it. -- David Halik System Administrator OIT-CSS Rutgers University dha...@jla.rutgers.edu
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Rick Romero wrote:
> Try adding a namespace.
>
> namespace private {
> separator = .
> prefix = INBOX.
> inbox = yes
> }
I made that change and reloaded Dovecot and all my users on the mail
server lost the folders...
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
Quoting "Carlos Williams" : On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: It might be useful to tell Thunderbird not only to show subscribed folders. Edit -> Account settings -> Server settings -> Advanced, first check box. There are some MUAs which create folders but do not add subscriptions for the folders. The sylpheed I currently use is such a beast :-) In Thunderbird that option is already checked and it wouldn't explain why webmail (RoundCube) shows the exact same thing. I can't delete the folder from Thunderbird and I don't see it when I login to the mail server via shell. I am thinking there is something wrong with the folder listing or something like that. The entire structure doesn't look correct for Maildir. The folders you listed, puts you already in the INBOX, so your MUA should be seeing: INBOX\ Drafts INBOX\ ClamAV Dell.Quotes Dell.Warranty etc.etc.etc.. Sent Spam Trash If you are not seeing the folders in that order, then I think your dovecot.conf isn't quite right. Please post the output of dovecot -n Rick
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
Quoting "Carlos Williams" :
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Rick Romero wrote:
The entire structure doesn't look correct for Maildir.
The folders you listed, puts you already in the INBOX, so your MUA should be
seeing:
INBOX\
Drafts
INBOX\
ClamAV
Dell.Quotes
Dell.Warranty
etc.etc.etc..
Sent
Spam
Trash
If you are not seeing the folders in that order, then I think your
dovecot.conf isn't quite right. Please post the output of dovecot -n
No I don't appear to be seeing this and I think the fact that I have
used different mail clients (Thunderbird, Evolution, etc etc etc) and
think that their default folder structure may have made a mess on my
IMAP Maildir structure over the years.
Below is my dovecot -n:
[r...@mail Maildir]# dovecot -n
# 1.0.7: /etc/dovecot.conf
protocols: imap
ssl_cert_file: /srv/ssl/ghost.crt
ssl_key_file: /srv/ssl/ghost.key
login_dir: /var/run/dovecot/login
login_executable: /usr/libexec/dovecot/imap-login
mail_location: maildir:~/Maildir
auth default:
mechanisms: plain login
passdb:
driver: pam
userdb:
driver: passwd
socket:
type: listen
client:
path: /var/spool/postfix/private/auth
mode: 432
user: postfix
group: postfix
---
Beyond that I don't know why it's messed up and more importantly, how
I can fix it. Any suggestions?
Try adding a namespace.
namespace private {
separator = .
prefix = INBOX.
inbox = yes
}
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Rick Romero wrote: > The entire structure doesn't look correct for Maildir. > The folders you listed, puts you already in the INBOX, so your MUA should be > seeing: > INBOX\ > Drafts > INBOX\ > ClamAV > Dell.Quotes > Dell.Warranty > etc.etc.etc.. > Sent > Spam > Trash > > If you are not seeing the folders in that order, then I think your > dovecot.conf isn't quite right. Please post the output of dovecot -n No I don't appear to be seeing this and I think the fact that I have used different mail clients (Thunderbird, Evolution, etc etc etc) and think that their default folder structure may have made a mess on my IMAP Maildir structure over the years. Below is my dovecot -n: [r...@mail Maildir]# dovecot -n # 1.0.7: /etc/dovecot.conf protocols: imap ssl_cert_file: /srv/ssl/ghost.crt ssl_key_file: /srv/ssl/ghost.key login_dir: /var/run/dovecot/login login_executable: /usr/libexec/dovecot/imap-login mail_location: maildir:~/Maildir auth default: mechanisms: plain login passdb: driver: pam userdb: driver: passwd socket: type: listen client: path: /var/spool/postfix/private/auth mode: 432 user: postfix group: postfix --- Beyond that I don't know why it's messed up and more importantly, how I can fix it. Any suggestions?
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: > It might be useful to tell Thunderbird not only to show subscribed folders. > Edit -> Account settings -> Server settings -> Advanced, first check box. > > There are some MUAs which create folders but do not add subscriptions > for the folders. The sylpheed I currently use is such a beast :-) In Thunderbird that option is already checked and it wouldn't explain why webmail (RoundCube) shows the exact same thing. I can't delete the folder from Thunderbird and I don't see it when I login to the mail server via shell. I am thinking there is something wrong with the folder listing or something like that.
[Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
I noticed for some reason that I am missing an IMAP folder called 'Symantec' that was under my Inbox. I see all my other folders listed on my mail client except 'Symantec'. I then login to my mail server which runs Postfix / Dovecot & there I can see it: /home/cwilliams/Maildir [r...@mail Maildir]# ls -la total 608 drwx-- 33 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 13:23 . drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 23 13:24 .. drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 53248 Feb 25 13:22 cur -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 3048 Feb 25 12:42 dovecot.index -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 178176 Feb 25 13:22 dovecot.index.cache -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 54936 Feb 25 13:23 dovecot.index.log -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 131124 Feb 10 16:18 dovecot.index.log.2 -rw--- 1 cwilliams it121 Jul 15 2009 dovecot-keywords -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 8190 Feb 25 13:13 dovecot-uidlist drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 12:47 .Drafts drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 13:27 .INBOX drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 08:55 .INBOX.ClamAV drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 08:54 .INBOX.Dell.Quotes drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 08:54 .INBOX.Dell.Warranty drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 08:55 .INBOX.IBM drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Oct 2 2008 .INBOX.Logs drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 08:55 .INBOX.Red Hat drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 23 09:26 .INBOX.Symantec drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 32768 Feb 25 13:13 new drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 13:25 .Sent drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 17 08:37 .Spam -rw--- 1 cwilliams it393 Feb 23 10:23 subscriptions drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 13:13 tmp drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 13:22 .Trash As you can see above there is a .INBOX.Symantec directory and I can 'cd' into it and see all my messages: /home/cwilliams/Maildir/.INBOX.Symantec [r...@mail .INBOX.Symantec]# ls -l total 280 drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 12288 Jan 21 17:39 cur -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 2352 Jan 21 17:39 dovecot.index -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 233472 Feb 22 08:17 dovecot.index.cache -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 8428 Feb 22 08:17 dovecot.index.log -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 41 Oct 12 09:50 dovecot-keywords -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 6665 Jan 21 17:39 dovecot-uidlist drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 4096 Oct 2 2008 new drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 4096 Jan 21 17:39 tmp However when I open Thunderbird & Webmail (both use IMAP), I see my Symantec folder under a 'Drafts' folder. When I try and click on the Symantec folder as a sub folder in 'Drafts', I get an error: "The mail server responded:Mailbox doesn't exist: Drafts.Symantec" So why does it show up there and why can't I see it normally with all my other IMAP folders under my Inbox. I am confused. Please help! Thanks!
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Folders Don't Make Sense
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:41:34 -0500 Carlos Williams wrote: > I noticed for some reason that I am missing an IMAP folder called > 'Symantec' that was under my Inbox. I see all my other folders listed > on my mail client except 'Symantec'. I then login to my mail server > which runs Postfix / Dovecot & there I can see it: > > /home/cwilliams/Maildir > [r...@mail Maildir]# ls -la > total 608 > drwx-- 33 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 13:23 . > drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 23 13:24 .. > drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 53248 Feb 25 13:22 cur > -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 3048 Feb 25 12:42 dovecot.index > -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 178176 Feb 25 13:22 dovecot.index.cache > -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 54936 Feb 25 13:23 dovecot.index.log > -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 131124 Feb 10 16:18 dovecot.index.log.2 > -rw--- 1 cwilliams it121 Jul 15 2009 dovecot-keywords > -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 8190 Feb 25 13:13 dovecot-uidlist > drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 12:47 .Drafts > drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 13:27 .INBOX > drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 08:55 .INBOX.ClamAV > drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 08:54 .INBOX.Dell.Quotes > drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 08:54 .INBOX.Dell.Warranty > drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 08:55 .INBOX.IBM > drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Oct 2 2008 .INBOX.Logs > drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 08:55 .INBOX.Red Hat > drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 23 09:26 .INBOX.Symantec > drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 32768 Feb 25 13:13 new > drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 13:25 .Sent > drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 17 08:37 .Spam > -rw--- 1 cwilliams it393 Feb 23 10:23 subscriptions > drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 13:13 tmp > drwx-- 5 cwilliams it 4096 Feb 25 13:22 .Trash > > As you can see above there is a .INBOX.Symantec directory and I can > 'cd' into it and see all my messages: > > /home/cwilliams/Maildir/.INBOX.Symantec > [r...@mail .INBOX.Symantec]# ls -l > total 280 > drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 12288 Jan 21 17:39 cur > -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 2352 Jan 21 17:39 dovecot.index > -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 233472 Feb 22 08:17 dovecot.index.cache > -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 8428 Feb 22 08:17 dovecot.index.log > -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 41 Oct 12 09:50 dovecot-keywords > -rw--- 1 cwilliams it 6665 Jan 21 17:39 dovecot-uidlist > drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 4096 Oct 2 2008 new > drwx-- 2 cwilliams it 4096 Jan 21 17:39 tmp What is the content of file 'subscriptions'? > However when I open Thunderbird & Webmail (both use IMAP), I see my > Symantec folder under a 'Drafts' folder. When I try and click on the > Symantec folder as a sub folder in 'Drafts', I get an error: > > "The mail server responded:Mailbox doesn't exist: Drafts.Symantec" > > So why does it show up there and why can't I see it normally with all > my other IMAP folders under my Inbox. I am confused. Please help! It might be useful to tell Thunderbird not only to show subscribed folders. Edit -> Account settings -> Server settings -> Advanced, first check box. There are some MUAs which create folders but do not add subscriptions for the folders. The sylpheed I currently use is such a beast :-)
Re: [Dovecot] **OFF LIST** Re: body search very slow since upgrade from 1.0.15 to 1.2.10
On 24.2.2010, at 20.27, Timo Sirainen wrote: > Looks like there's something very wrong with mbox with v1.2+. It's doing > a *lot* of message header parsing work that doesn't happen with v1.1 or > with other mailbox formats. Probably because I fixed some bugs where it > was wrongly caching some state, but now it's not caching it long enough. Looks like some input stream seeking optimizations are broken (when one input stream reads from another, which reads from another, ...). I already managed to fix the performance problem, but now it's corrupting saved mails sometimes. So a while longer to get it fully fixed :) And since it's a pretty big change, I'm not sure if I want to risk breaking v1.2 by changing it, so maybe it's v2.0 only.
Re: [Dovecot] body search very slow since upgrade from 1.0.15 to 1.2.10
Quoting Stan Hoeppner : Are you using any FTS plugins? Squat? Nope, not as far as I know. Dovecot -n lists the following plugins: mail_plugins(default): zlib acl imap_acl mail_plugins(imap): zlib acl imap_acl mail_plugins(pop3): zlib mail_plugin_dir(default): /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap mail_plugin_dir(imap): /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap mail_plugin_dir(pop3): /usr/lib64/dovecot/pop3 plugin: acl: vfile:/var/dovecot/acls acl_shared_dict: file:/var/dovecot/indexes/shared_mailboxes And are you sure you're doing full body searches, not just headers only? Yes. Header searches are much faster. :) -- Eric Rostetter The Department of Physics The University of Texas at Austin Go Longhorns!
Re: [Dovecot] Duplicate Elimination
> On 24.2.2010, at 16.15, Steffen Kaiser wrote: > >>> group1: us...@example.com,us...@example.com >>> group2: us...@example.com,us...@example.com >>> >>> If i am sending a mail to group1 and group2. It is going two times a >>> single mail to the user1 mailbox. But in dovecot it is not eliminating >>> since it has the same message-id. Previously i was able to accomplish >>> this >>> task with cyrus duplicate elimination. >> >> "two times a single mail to the user1 mailbox" >> actually I do expect that the MTA detects the duplication of the two >> aliases and does NOT send the mail two times to user1. > > Yeah, I think that's what I answered before too. Dovecot currently has no > duplicate elimination code. > > (I hate the whole concept of dropping incoming messages as duplicates > based on Message-ID. I would definitely want it disabled for my own > mails, for example that would mean I couldn't filter messages to mailing > lists based on List-ID: header, because the first mail usually comes > directly from the other user, and then the second mail with the List-ID: > would get dropped.) > > Thanks for your valuable information. Actually its not a mailing list, its just an aliases created in my mail server. I had made changes in my mta to handle duplicate mails. Rgds, Aravind M D
Re: [Dovecot] qmail-secretary plugin for dovecot deliver
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Marcus Rueckert wrote: > hi, > > maybe look into mlmmj. (http://mlmmj.org/) qmail-secretary just works, no configuration is needed, all you have to do is add appropriate entry in ldap. No mess with MTA configs and fully controllable via web interface (via ldap) That's what I am trying to recreate for dovecot! raj
Re: [Dovecot] qmail-secretary plugin for dovecot deliver
hi, maybe look into mlmmj. (http://mlmmj.org/) darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org
[Dovecot] qmail-secretary plugin for dovecot deliver
Hi, I have been using qmail-ldap for quite some time and now moved to postfix/dovecot. One feature that I miss is that provided by qmail-secretary. qmail-secretary basically is a mail list manager with following features: 1 no limit, just explode to all members 2 members only, as the name says; only members are allowed (based on envelope sender, so not very secure, everybody can fake that) 3 sender confirm, sender has to confirm submission and return address like DJBs qmail-secretary 4 moderated, moderator(s) have to accept every message; there are DN and RFC822 moderators All configuration (name, members, moderated etc...) are taken from LDAP. I had gone through the code and from what I understand for each 4 delivery types it works as follows: 1. Just deliver to all recipients (say, inject it via sendmail). 2. verify if envelope sender is in allowed list and proceed as above. 3. 1. create a random hash 2. save the mail in new/ with hash as filename 3. create a new mail with listname-confirm-h...@domain.com and send 4. If that mail comes back, deliver the mail to all recipients. 4. 1. as above but using listname-approve-hash and list-name-reject-hash 2. move the msg to cur/ 3. if appropriate reply comes retrieve the mail from cur/ and send to all recipient. qmail-secretary is invoked by qmail-local and thus this is a nice candidate for a deliver plugin. Before I start coding I just want to check if there is any gotchas that I am missing? I assume all these operations can be performed as a deliver plugin and that deliver plugin is the correct place for such functionality. It goes without saying that I would be contributing this plugin back to dovecot. with regards, raj
[Dovecot] dovecot-2.0.beta3 tcpwrapper support in Solaris
Hi, 2.0 compiles fine in Solaris but and I've found only one glitch so far. Tcpwapper support needs some tweaks. I need to add CPPFLAGS=/usr/sfw/include because tcpd.h is in there. Then also LDFLAGS='-R/usr/sfw/lib -L/usr/sfw/lib' is needed. It would be nice to have --with-tcpwrap-dir or something. After this linking gives an error Undefined first referenced symbol in file deny_severity /usr/sfw/lib//libwrap.so allow_severity /usr/sfw/lib//libwrap.so These are not defined but application itself should define these globally so I've added these to configure and src/util/tcpwrap.c #include int allow_severity = LOG_INFO; int deny_severity = LOG_WARNING; Tomppa
Re: [Dovecot] Regarding: **OFF LIST** subject declaration
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:28:29 -0600 Stan Hoeppner articulated: > Is this all clear for you now? That **OFF LIST** was a simple > mistake of forgetting to edit the subject line before getting the > discussion back on the list? Interestingly enough, the 'OFF LIST" declaration has now populated itself, which was what I meant in my original post. Personally, I feel that subject line declarations like "OT", etc are just a wasted finger exercise. It ranks up there with those totally useless and legally unenforceable 'disclaimer' declarations. (see example below) By the way, this was in no way directed at you, or anyone else in particular. I was just curious as to why someone (anyone) would employ this tactic. In any case, it is time to retire this post. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission, please delete it immediately. Obviously, I am the idiot who sent it to you by mistake. Furthermore, there is no way I can force you to delete it. Worse, by the time you have reached this disclaimer you have all ready read the document. Telling you to forget it would seem absurd. In any event, I have no legal right to force you to take any action upon this email anyway. This entire disclaimer is just a waste of everyone's time and bandwidth. Therefore, let us just forget the whole thing and enjoy a cold beer instead.
Re: [Dovecot] FTS cron script to force index updates
On 2/25/10 1:00 AM -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: From: http://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/FTS "You could also build a cronjob to index users' mailboxes once in a while (by selecting each mailbox and issuing a SEARCH TEXT xyzzyx command)." Has anyone written a script to perform the above? If not, how would I do this? Would I write a shell script to telnet to the IMAP port and then issue the commands? Can this be done with a bash script? Or would I need something more serious like a perl script? See the recent thread, "fts squat -> webmail ..." -frank
