RE: [DX-CHAT] Spotting DX (be a better spotter)
Remember the old way to call cq in the 50's and 60's (sometimes)? Just tap out "shave and a hair cut" and look for the guy sending "two bits" Made a lot of qso's that way 73 Red K0LUZ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nick cominos > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:22 PM > To: Jim Reisert AD1C; dx-chat@njdxa.org > Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Spotting DX (be a better spotter) > > I find it very sad that you would have to explain some of the > most simple rules regarding DXing. And, the problem is with > hams who feel as though they will have nothing to do with > historical precedent. These are relatively new hams, but not > exclusively. Example, use of QRL? on cw to check if the > frequency is in use. By the time that is sent a station has > been interfered with. Long ago, a simple ditdit dit was the > cw term used to inquire if the frequency was in use. Any > attempt at presenting time tested and honored practices is > met with disdain. To many thin skinned hams on the air today. > vy 73, > Nick W9UM > > - Original Message - > From: "Jim Reisert AD1C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 12:35 PM > Subject: [DX-CHAT] Spotting DX (be a better spotter) > > > > You can help the DX community at large by putting out informative, > > correct DX spots: > > > > - Wait until you have the CORRECT CALL before trying to spot it! > > > > - There is a difference between the number ZERO and the letter O. > > Make sure to use the correct one. Same goes for the number ONE > > and the letter I. > > > > - When a station is portable, use a slash: > > > > "AD1C portable 5" is written AD1C/5, not AD1C/P5 > > > > (P5 is the prefix for North Korea!) > > > > "AD1C portable" is written AD1C/P > > > > - Some logging programs recognize the word QSX in the spot. > > Here is a good example: > > > >dx 4O3T 14190 QSX 14235 > > > > Note the word QSX and the frequency in KHz. > > Things like "QSX UP 5" generally don't work as well. > > > > - If you are spotting an IOTA, use the word IOTA in the spot. > > Either format is OK: > > > >IOTA EU-171 > >IOTA AS005 > > > > - If you are spotting a VUCC grid (VHF spots), the comment > format is: > > > >[remote grid] > [your grid] > > > > Note how the ">" arrow points TOWARDS YOU. It's best to put > > the other station's grid FIRST since some logging programs will > > stop at the first grid they find. > > > > I hope this helps others. If you want to add to the list, > feel free. > > > > 73 - Jim AD1C > > > > -- > > Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 > > USA +978-251-9933, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.ad1c.us > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Gary Stone
Charlie, W0YG wrote: I agree with what Nick has to say. Knowing the signal strength in Bangor, Maine means not much here in the black hole of the Rockies. Just makes me nervous! 73, Charlie, W0YG..>> Actually it does mean a lot. If Bangor is hearing Scarborough 20 over 9, that means here in Texas, I can hear absolutely nothing Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Gary Stone
I can appreciate that... but I think it already happens to a certain extent, right? The first spot of all is useful to let you know the DX freq. The rest just let you know who else is hearing the DX. Now, it could be that one might make the case that the DX should only be spotted once. I'd come down on this side if it were possible to keep people from duplicating spots when they're excited. Since people are going to spot the same DX over and over again, I think it would be cool to have formatted data of station details. If the format was codified and a lot of people used it, you could get all sorts of data on band conditions, statistics on who uses what antennas when and how well they work. Some mods to cluster software would let you add automatic info when, for example, you spot a 20m spot and you always use your four element yagi on 20. If it's formatted properly, the cluster could also be modified to strip it out of the spots sent to those who don't want such information. Something to think about, I think... I like the idea of data rich cluster spots but I can see how the cluster is information overload anyway... Tops on my list is finding the DX before it's spotted... sometimes I wish we could cancel DX spotting entirely and cool the pileups off, but barring that, I'd like to make it as useful as possible. Dan Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Gary Stone
I agree with what Nick has to say. Knowing the signal strength in Bangor, Maine means not much here in the black hole of the Rockies. Just makes me nervous! 73, Charlie, W0YG..>> - Original Message - From: "nick cominos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Gary Stone To much informationa simple spot is all that's necessary. If you can hear em, chances are you can work them. Most of us can figure out what antenna to use. vy 73, Nick W9UM "War is Peace" "Freedom is Slavery" "Ignorance is Strength" Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Gary Stone
To much informationa simple spot is all that's necessary. If you can hear em, chances are you can work them. Most of us can figure out what antenna to use. vy 73, Nick W9UM "War is Peace" "Freedom is Slavery" "Ignorance is Strength" Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Spotting DX (be a better spotter)
I find it very sad that you would have to explain some of the most simple rules regarding DXing. And, the problem is with hams who feel as though they will have nothing to do with historical precedent. These are relatively new hams, but not exclusively. Example, use of QRL? on cw to check if the frequency is in use. By the time that is sent a station has been interfered with. Long ago, a simple ditdit dit was the cw term used to inquire if the frequency was in use. Any attempt at presenting time tested and honored practices is met with disdain. To many thin skinned hams on the air today. vy 73, Nick W9UM - Original Message - From: "Jim Reisert AD1C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 12:35 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Spotting DX (be a better spotter) You can help the DX community at large by putting out informative, correct DX spots: - Wait until you have the CORRECT CALL before trying to spot it! - There is a difference between the number ZERO and the letter O. Make sure to use the correct one. Same goes for the number ONE and the letter I. - When a station is portable, use a slash: "AD1C portable 5" is written AD1C/5, not AD1C/P5 (P5 is the prefix for North Korea!) "AD1C portable" is written AD1C/P - Some logging programs recognize the word QSX in the spot. Here is a good example: dx 4O3T 14190 QSX 14235 Note the word QSX and the frequency in KHz. Things like "QSX UP 5" generally don't work as well. - If you are spotting an IOTA, use the word IOTA in the spot. Either format is OK: IOTA EU-171 IOTA AS005 - If you are spotting a VUCC grid (VHF spots), the comment format is: [remote grid] > [your grid] Note how the ">" arrow points TOWARDS YOU. It's best to put the other station's grid FIRST since some logging programs will stop at the first grid they find. I hope this helps others. If you want to add to the list, feel free. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Make a better spot
I like the antenna codes ,but would include things like Bev, Vert, K9AY, 4SQ etc... easily flexible, though... the antenna codes aren't very cryptic. 1L is good for generic horizontal wires. Vert probably better for verticals... Could add WN (wet noodle) for really easy-to-copy-on-anything signals... Might be good to use something offbeat as the seperator, maybe *. Also, maybe add TX ERP for those worked, HRD for not 1830.5 VK0XX 449*W3*Bev/4SQ*1kW 21050.0 CT1XXX 579*W3*4L*65W 144.210 AE3XX 59*FM19*6L*HRD I'll do it if you will... I think it's a compact way to include more info. Dan Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Make a better spot
Greetings all, OK - with some encouragement from others I would like to again propose a "system" for spotting. I really believe it would work and be very helpful. The suggested format: dx ... And it would be like this example: DX YU6AO 14.190 59.W5.4L QSX 14.200 This would mean that I am hearing YU6AO with a 59 signal in W5 land and I am using a 4 element directional antenna and that station is listening on 14.200. The 'codes' could be: for simply use prefix - that would narrow it down enough, 9A, W6, 9Y, GW, etc. - so that the others who see the spot would know the general location (not just the DXCC of origin). I see a spot from a W5 and wonder why I am not hearing the station and then look up the station and see they are in Maryland (for example). for this does not have to be too complex. How about 1L for non directional antenna, and then 2L, 3L, etc. for number of elements for a directional antenna. Then when I see a spot for a YU6 from a station in W5 and it is on 80 meters and I can't hear them with my poor dipole and then see their spot and realize they are using a 2 element directional antenna - makes sense. The above plan would also allow for some serious data gathering my computer program to keep a good record of prop from various areas. What do others think? Gary, N5PHT __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Spotting DX (be a better spotter)
Jim and others, YES - and YES but ALSO I have long advocated for the spot to have some information about the spotter! I often use: dx 14.002 YU6DZ 589.w5.3L Which means that I am hearing YU6DZ on 14.002 and he is 589 in W5 land and I am using a 3 element directional antenna. Then when I see a spot I get a better idea aboout the prop to my area. Gary, N5PHT --- Jim Reisert AD1C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can help the DX community at large by putting > out informative, > correct DX spots: > > - Wait until you have the CORRECT CALL before trying > to spot it! > > - There is a difference between the number ZERO and > the letter O. > Make sure to use the correct one. Same goes for > the number ONE > and the letter I. > > - When a station is portable, use a slash: > > "AD1C portable 5" is written AD1C/5, not AD1C/P5 > > (P5 is the prefix for North Korea!) > > "AD1C portable" is written AD1C/P > > - Some logging programs recognize the word QSX in > the spot. > Here is a good example: > > dx 4O3T 14190 QSX 14235 > > Note the word QSX and the frequency in KHz. > Things like "QSX UP 5" generally don't work as > well. > > - If you are spotting an IOTA, use the word IOTA in > the spot. > Either format is OK: > > IOTA EU-171 > IOTA AS005 > > - If you are spotting a VUCC grid (VHF spots), the > comment format is: > > [remote grid] > [your grid] > > Note how the ">" arrow points TOWARDS YOU. It's > best to put > the other station's grid FIRST since some logging > programs will > stop at the first grid they find. > > I hope this helps others. If you want to add to the > list, feel free. > > 73 - Jim AD1C > > -- > Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North > Chelmsford, MA 01863 > USA +978-251-9933, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > http://www.ad1c.us > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, > dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > > http://njdxa.org > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] No, I didn't work a pirate.
Title: No, I didn't work a pirate. This is from the ARRL site Montenegro International DX Festival ready to roll (Jul 18, 2006) -- Radio amateurs and equipment from all over Europe and from a few countries outside the continent are already converging on Montenegro for the International DX Festival. Among the nearly four dozen operators already recruited are ARRL CEO David Sumner, K1ZZ, and his wife Linda, KA1ZD. Using the call sign 4O3NT and operating from several sites ( see one in photo), the DX special event was conceived as a way to introduce the new Republic of Montenegro to the worldwide DX community. Operation gets under way July 20 and will run until August 13. Look for 4O3NT on or about these frequencies: CW: 1826.5, 3522, 7022, 10,106, 14,022, 18,072, 21,022, 24,892 and 28,022 kHz; SSB: 3795, 7055, 14,190, 18,145, 21,290, 24,945 and 28,490 kHz; RTTY: 7035, 10,135, 14,085, 18,105, 21,085 and 28,085 kHz; 6 meters, CW/SSB: 50,106 kHz. While the DX operation will be the most visible part of the festival, some participants also will conduct meetings with local telecom authorities and help the Amateur Radio Union of Montenegro gain International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) membership. Yaesu, SteppIR, Acom and the Northern California DX Foundation have supplied equipment for the event. There's still room for more operators, especially during the second and third weeks of the event. Contact YT6A (with a copy to OH2BH). QSL via YT6A. Link to this story -- No trees were harmed in the sending of this message, however a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
[DX-CHAT] Spotting DX (be a better spotter)
You can help the DX community at large by putting out informative, correct DX spots: - Wait until you have the CORRECT CALL before trying to spot it! - There is a difference between the number ZERO and the letter O. Make sure to use the correct one. Same goes for the number ONE and the letter I. - When a station is portable, use a slash: "AD1C portable 5" is written AD1C/5, not AD1C/P5 (P5 is the prefix for North Korea!) "AD1C portable" is written AD1C/P - Some logging programs recognize the word QSX in the spot. Here is a good example: dx 4O3T 14190 QSX 14235 Note the word QSX and the frequency in KHz. Things like "QSX UP 5" generally don't work as well. - If you are spotting an IOTA, use the word IOTA in the spot. Either format is OK: IOTA EU-171 IOTA AS005 - If you are spotting a VUCC grid (VHF spots), the comment format is: [remote grid] > [your grid] Note how the ">" arrow points TOWARDS YOU. It's best to put the other station's grid FIRST since some logging programs will stop at the first grid they find. I hope this helps others. If you want to add to the list, feel free. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] What's with the call signs?
Yesterday I worked 403NT on 20 phone Today they were up as 4O3T, so I worked 'em again Why the change? I duped the band/mode because of the different call sign. Clarification anyone? N2ERN -- No trees were harmed in the sending of this message, however a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
