[Elecraft] KX3/KXPA100 Loss of CW Sidetone

2014-06-19 Thread Jim Kutsch, KY2D via Elecraft
This is puzzling so I'm asking for help. When on the NJ CW net at the bottom
end of 80 meters (3.544 MHz), the KX3 CW sidetone works fine but when I use
the KXPA100 , the sidetone is silent. The CW is being sent as expected, just
no sidetone at all. On all other CW bands, it works as expected.

 

Has anyone else experienced this issue? Any ideas where I should look to
solve this problem? It's a bit difficult to use the paddle with only a
slight hum in the PC speakers across the room as the CW feedback. HI HI

 

73, Jim

 

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[Elecraft] Slightly OT: Logging programs for the Mac

2014-06-19 Thread Joshua Gould
For those of you that run Macs, what software do you use for logging.  So
far, I've only found two programs, Aether and MacLoggerDX.  Aether seems
like it would work pretty well, but not having a KX3 yet, I don't know how
well the software is able to pull data from the radio.

I've also been playing with N1MM's logging app in a windows VM.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks
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Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: Logging programs for the Mac

2014-06-19 Thread Bill Frantz
I use RUMLog, which is designed as a DX logging program for 
general logging. For contests, I use RUMPed which includes 
duplicate call checking and other contest features. Both 
programs can read the current frequency from my K3, and RUMLog 
can read the KX3. Since both programs are written by the same 
programmer, and both radios have similar computer interfaces, I 
expect RUMPed will work with the KX3 as well.


There is good integration between cocoaModem for digital modes 
and RUMPed. RUMPed can run macros in cocoaModem and display 
cocoaModem's waterfall and decoded text. For example, double 
clicking on a call sign in the received text puts it into the 
call sign field of the log entry being built.


Both programs are supposed to be able to send CW, but I haven't 
experimented with that feature. (My CW is bad enough that I 
think I should be hand-sending everything for the practice.)


I have also experimented with fldigi on the Mac (and on Linux). 
It also seems to work well, but I haven't given it the many 
hours I've spent with the DL2RUM programs.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 6/19/14 at 5:24 PM, jg.k8...@gmail.com (Joshua Gould) wrote:


For those of you that run Macs, what software do you use for logging.  So
far, I've only found two programs, Aether and MacLoggerDX.  Aether seems
like it would work pretty well, but not having a KX3 yet, I don't know how
well the software is able to pull data from the radio.

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Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: Logging programs for the Mac

2014-06-19 Thread Scott Manthe
RUMlog and RUMped are both terrific programs, as Bill mentioned. The 
author is an active contester and DXer and supports the programs well. 
And they're free!


73,
Scott, N9AA


On 6/19/14, 8:24 PM, Joshua Gould wrote:

For those of you that run Macs, what software do you use for logging.  So
far, I've only found two programs, Aether and MacLoggerDX.  Aether seems
like it would work pretty well, but not having a KX3 yet, I don't know how
well the software is able to pull data from the radio.

I've also been playing with N1MM's logging app in a windows VM.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks
Joshua Gould
K8WXA
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Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: Logging programs for the Mac

2014-06-19 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka

I sent a private message with the reasons I like MacLoggerDX. Sure it
costs money, but it's worth it.

On Thu, 19 Jun 2014, Scott Manthe wrote:

RUMlog and RUMped are both terrific programs, as Bill mentioned. The author 
is an active contester and DXer and supports the programs well. And they're 
free!


73,
Scott, N9AA


On 6/19/14, 8:24 PM, Joshua Gould wrote:

For those of you that run Macs, what software do you use for logging.  So
far, I've only found two programs, Aether and MacLoggerDX.  Aether seems
like it would work pretty well, but not having a KX3 yet, I don't know how
well the software is able to pull data from the radio.

I've also been playing with N1MM's logging app in a windows VM.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks
Joshua Gould
K8WXA
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Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: Logging programs for the Mac

2014-06-19 Thread James Hooper
I am a MacLoggerDX fan.   I do use RUMPed for contests. 

Hoop
K9QJS 


On Jun 19, 2014, at 17:24 , Joshua Gould jg.k8...@gmail.com wrote:

For those of you that run Macs, what software do you use for logging.  So
far, I've only found two programs, Aether and MacLoggerDX.  Aether seems
like it would work pretty well, but not having a KX3 yet, I don't know how
well the software is able to pull data from the radio.

I've also been playing with N1MM's logging app in a windows VM.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks
Joshua Gould
K8WXA
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Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: Logging programs for the Mac

2014-06-19 Thread Joel Black


On 6/19/14, 7:38 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
Both programs are supposed to be able to send CW, but I haven't 
experimented with that feature. (My CW is bad enough that I think I 
should be hand-sending everything for the practice.)


RUMlog does send CW. I have the macros setup and it works just fine. I 
cannot seem to get the CW send function with my KX3 (I didn't dig really 
deep into why and I don't really use RUMlog with the KX3 - possibly 
because the KX3 was setup as the secondary transceiver?), but it does 
work with the K3.
I have also experimented with fldigi on the Mac (and on Linux). It 
also seems to work well, but I haven't given it the many hours I've 
spent with the DL2RUM programs.
Fldigi works great on my Mac. I use it mostly for MARS work, but have 
used it in the past for PSK31 and Olivia 8/250. For more information, 
join the linuxham (all one word) Yahoo group.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 6/19/14 at 5:24 PM, jg.k8...@gmail.com (Joshua Gould) wrote:

For those of you that run Macs, what software do you use for 
logging.  So

far, I've only found two programs, Aether and MacLoggerDX. Aether seems
like it would work pretty well, but not having a KX3 yet, I don't 
know how

well the software is able to pull data from the radio.
I am no longer a fan of Aether. Last year I emailed the author a couple 
of times about a problem I was having with the software. He never 
responded. I figured that I paid for the program and he should have 
responded. I went to RUMlog and just recently (a couple of days ago) 
deleted Aether. Don't bother with it unless you don't mind getting no 
support.


For reference, my current setup is a late 2012 27 iMac with 8GB RAM and 
OS X 10.9.3. It is *way* more computer than I need.


73,
Joel - W4JBB
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Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: Logging programs for the Mac

2014-06-19 Thread Chuck Shefflette - AA3CS
I use MacLoggerDX. I’ve tried RUMLog, it is OK if you can deal with its quirks. 
I tried Aether - it lasted about 30 seconds.

MLDX is a bit quirky, too, but I can live with it. It does OK as a contest 
logger if you’re not a serious contester.

I have used N1MM in a Parallels VM - works just fine.

The Mac versions of the Elecraft utilities work just fine.

I’ve used Cocoa Modem, but frankly I prefer fldigi for the very little digital 
mode work I do, and the Mac version works well.

73,
Chuck, AA3CS

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On Jun 19, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Joshua Gould jg.k8...@gmail.com wrote:

 For those of you that run Macs, what software do you use for logging.
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[Elecraft] KAT500 Band Data Input Question

2014-06-19 Thread Randy Farmer
I have a brand new KAT500 coming, to be delivered tomorrow. I'm now 
trying to figure how to integrate it into my SO2R contest station. I've 
looked at the manual and done research in the reflector archives, but 
I'm still unsure what it takes to make the tuner change bands. I have a 
simple question:


Will the KAT500 respond to BCD band data alone at its control input or 
is it also necessary for it to be connected to the Aux Bus (like the 
KPA500) for it to change bands under positive hardware control?


I need to rig a way to share the tuner control between two dissimilar 
radios. The primary radio is a K3, so there's no problem there. The 
secondary radio is an old Yaesu FT-1000D, which obviously can't 
communicate on the Aux Bus. My station setup will allow me to create and 
select TTL band data for the appropriate radio, but it's not clear to me 
that this is enough to control the tuner. I was quite surprised to find 
out that the KPA500 wouldn't support control using band data commands 
alone, and I'm afraid the KAT500 may share the same feature. This 
limitation really impedes the amp's usability in an automated station 
using other than Elecraft radios, probably for sound technical reasons 
that I don't quite understand. Can anyone tell me for sure how the 
KAT500 is controlled?


73...
Randy, W8FN
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Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: Logging programs for the Mac

2014-06-19 Thread Hank Garretson
I recommend Skookum Logger.

http://k1gq.com/SkookumLogger/index.html

73,

Hank, W6SX


On Thursday, June 19, 2014, Joshua Gould jg.k8...@gmail.com wrote:
 For those of you that run Macs, what software do you use for logging.  So
 far, I've only found two programs, Aether and MacLoggerDX.  Aether seems
 like it would work pretty well, but not having a KX3 yet, I don't know how
 well the software is able to pull data from the radio.

 I've also been playing with N1MM's logging app in a windows VM.

 Anyone have any suggestions?

 Thanks
 Joshua Gould
 K8WXA
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Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: Logging programs for the Mac

2014-06-19 Thread Igor Sokolov
I use TR4W in Parallels with Win7. All works well including CAT, CW and PTT, 
DX cluster etc.
I have tried several native OSx loggers but they all lack some features as 
compaired with TR4W.

I mainly use MacBook in the field with my KX3.

73, Igor UA9CDC

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I recommend Skookum Logger.

http://k1gq.com/SkookumLogger/index.html

73,

Hank, W6SX


On Thursday, June 19, 2014, Joshua Gould jg.k8...@gmail.com wrote:

For those of you that run Macs, what software do you use for logging.  So
far, I've only found two programs, Aether and MacLoggerDX.  Aether seems
like it would work pretty well, but not having a KX3 yet, I don't know 
how

well the software is able to pull data from the radio.

I've also been playing with N1MM's logging app in a windows VM.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks
Joshua Gould
K8WXA
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Band Data Input Question

2014-06-19 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Randy:

The KAT500 has four ways to learn the frequency.

First, at Tx, it counts the frequency.  If you change bands and transmit, 
that's enough. That freq count is used to locate the appropriate memorized 
tuning solution.

Second are the four band lines.  This is how the KAT500 and KPA50o can detect 
the K3 band before Tx.  I don't know FT1000, but it might have four band lines 
that work similarly. This is sufficient to choose and Chang bands without Tx, 
but not the actual frequency within the band. The ATU loads the solution for 
the last known freq on the new band. When you Tx, it might need to load another 
solution.

Third is an RS232 port and a serial command set.  Kenwood radios  send an FA 
command with frequency, and the ATU can use that to select a specific memorized 
solution.  Some customers have used Arduinos and the like to translate between 
what they have and the KAT500 serial command set.  The command reference is on 
our manual page.

Finally the K3 can send an AUXBUS message on QSY and the ATU listens to that.

It will work with just the Tx freq count.  If you want band change without Tx, 
you'll need one of the other three techniques.  And if you want a specific 
memory selected without Tx, you'll need either the serial port command or the 
K3 AUXBUS message.

The KPA500 similarly will change bands with the four band lines or a Tx freq 
count. The KPA500 transmits on the AUXBUS but cannot not listen to AUXBUS. The 
KPA500 also has a serial command set, and the band can be changed using the KPA 
Utility or any other program that can send the band change command.

I don't understand your comment that the KPA500 won't follow the band lines, 
mine certainly does.

73 de Dick, K6KR

 On Jun 19, 2014, at 19:17, Randy Farmer w...@tx.rr.com wrote:
 
 I have a brand new KAT500 coming, to be delivered tomorrow. I'm now trying to 
 figure how to integrate it into my SO2R contest station. I've looked at the 
 manual and done research in the reflector archives, but I'm still unsure what 
 it takes to make the tuner change bands. I have a simple question:
 
 Will the KAT500 respond to BCD band data alone at its control input or is it 
 also necessary for it to be connected to the Aux Bus (like the KPA500) for it 
 to change bands under positive hardware control?
 
 I need to rig a way to share the tuner control between two dissimilar radios. 
 The primary radio is a K3, so there's no problem there. The secondary radio 
 is an old Yaesu FT-1000D, which obviously can't communicate on the Aux Bus. 
 My station setup will allow me to create and select TTL band data for the 
 appropriate radio, but it's not clear to me that this is enough to control 
 the tuner. I was quite surprised to find out that the KPA500 wouldn't support 
 control using band data commands alone, and I'm afraid the KAT500 may share 
 the same feature. This limitation really impedes the amp's usability in an 
 automated station using other than Elecraft radios, probably for sound 
 technical reasons that I don't quite understand. Can anyone tell me for sure 
 how the KAT500 is controlled?
 
 73...
 Randy, W8FN
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Band Data Input Question

2014-06-19 Thread Jack Brindle
Randy;

I fully agree with Dick’s analysis and comments, and I also question some of 
your assertions. The KPA does have a command set that allows it to be 
controlled from the computer. See the KPA500 Command Reference for details. I 
know of only one contest computer program that makes use of this - 
SkookumLogger on the Mac. But you should be able to code some of the commands 
into WriteLog or perhaps N1MM Logger to also perform the function.

The KPA takes band data from one of several methods - BCD (from K3 or other 
radios), analog (Icom), serial (Elecraft and Kenwood), computer control over 
the serial interface and RF from the radio itself. All of these work properly 
and have been verified in many stations. Interestingly, it cannot take band 
information over the Auxbus. As Dick mentioned, in the KPA, Auxbus is transmit 
only, and used specifically to send commands to the K3. In K3 mode, it receives 
band data through the BCD lines.

So how can we help you to get your station going properly. After all, we 
NCCCers do want your QSOs… ;-)

Jack Brindle, W6FB

On Jun 19, 2014, at 9:52 PM, Dick Dievendorff d...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Randy:
 
 The KAT500 has four ways to learn the frequency.
 
 First, at Tx, it counts the frequency.  If you change bands and transmit, 
 that's enough. That freq count is used to locate the appropriate memorized 
 tuning solution.
 
 Second are the four band lines.  This is how the KAT500 and KPA50o can detect 
 the K3 band before Tx.  I don't know FT1000, but it might have four band 
 lines that work similarly. This is sufficient to choose and Chang bands 
 without Tx, but not the actual frequency within the band. The ATU loads the 
 solution for the last known freq on the new band. When you Tx, it might need 
 to load another solution.
 
 Third is an RS232 port and a serial command set.  Kenwood radios  send an FA 
 command with frequency, and the ATU can use that to select a specific 
 memorized solution.  Some customers have used Arduinos and the like to 
 translate between what they have and the KAT500 serial command set.  The 
 command reference is on our manual page.
 
 Finally the K3 can send an AUXBUS message on QSY and the ATU listens to that.
 
 It will work with just the Tx freq count.  If you want band change without 
 Tx, you'll need one of the other three techniques.  And if you want a 
 specific memory selected without Tx, you'll need either the serial port 
 command or the K3 AUXBUS message.
 
 The KPA500 similarly will change bands with the four band lines or a Tx freq 
 count. The KPA500 transmits on the AUXBUS but cannot not listen to AUXBUS. 
 The KPA500 also has a serial command set, and the band can be changed using 
 the KPA Utility or any other program that can send the band change command.
 
 I don't understand your comment that the KPA500 won't follow the band lines, 
 mine certainly does.
 
 73 de Dick, K6KR
 
 On Jun 19, 2014, at 19:17, Randy Farmer w...@tx.rr.com wrote:
 
 I have a brand new KAT500 coming, to be delivered tomorrow. I'm now trying 
 to figure how to integrate it into my SO2R contest station. I've looked at 
 the manual and done research in the reflector archives, but I'm still unsure 
 what it takes to make the tuner change bands. I have a simple question:
 
 Will the KAT500 respond to BCD band data alone at its control input or is it 
 also necessary for it to be connected to the Aux Bus (like the KPA500) for 
 it to change bands under positive hardware control?
 
 I need to rig a way to share the tuner control between two dissimilar 
 radios. The primary radio is a K3, so there's no problem there. The 
 secondary radio is an old Yaesu FT-1000D, which obviously can't communicate 
 on the Aux Bus. My station setup will allow me to create and select TTL band 
 data for the appropriate radio, but it's not clear to me that this is enough 
 to control the tuner. I was quite surprised to find out that the KPA500 
 wouldn't support control using band data commands alone, and I'm afraid the 
 KAT500 may share the same feature. This limitation really impedes the 
 amp's usability in an automated station using other than Elecraft radios, 
 probably for sound technical reasons that I don't quite understand. Can 
 anyone tell me for sure how the KAT500 is controlled?
 
 73...
 Randy, W8FN
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