Re: [Elecraft] Observation on new Synthesizers for K3
How could Yaesu release the radio, with the original CW bandwidth, for production in the first place? 73..de John/K4WJ On 7/8/2015 9:43 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Wed,7/8/2015 10:28 AM, Mike Harris wrote: The transceiver in question is an FTDX5000. According to FCC measurments, it's one of the worst of the expensive modern rigs for CW bandwidth. BUT -- Yaesu issued a firmware update last fall, and my before/after measurements of a N6TA's FTDX5000 showed a significant improvement. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- 73..de John/K4WJ ex KN8PXG K8PXG K8WJ K4WJ ZF2HZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
I've never owned or used a K2. However I have assembled two of the K3
kits for others who felt they were not capable of doing so. Thus I have
had the opportunity to use two different K3 radios. One of the very
serious short comings, and main reason for me not purchasing a K3
earlier, is the unsatisfactory quality of the audio. To that end,
with changes announced in the K3S, specifically in the audio section, I
have a new K3S on order. Let's hope it performs or it will be sold.
I've used other radios which do have great audio, both on receive and
transmit. I find it very important that a good mike suited to the
user's voice and good microphone technique is a large part of the key to
great audio on SSB. {key words here {suited to the user's voice} and
{good microphone technique}.
73 Bob, K4TAX
Soon to be a new K3S owner.
On 7/9/2015 10:06 AM, Eddy Avila wrote:
Has anyone sent their Heil MH2 to AB5N Bob Nagy for his upgrade? I've never
been impressed with my K2 SSB tx audio and I've done everything Elecraft has
recommended to improve the TX audio, including sending it to Gary for alignment
-- Gary did a wonderful job aligning my K2, but the K2 TX audio still leaves a
lot to be desired!!
Thanks for any advice you can offer regardnig the AB5N mods.
73
ed
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[Elecraft] MH2 question
Has anyone sent their Heil MH2 to AB5N Bob Nagy for his upgrade? I've never been impressed with my K2 SSB tx audio and I've done everything Elecraft has recommended to improve the TX audio, including sending it to Gary for alignment -- Gary did a wonderful job aligning my K2, but the K2 TX audio still leaves a lot to be desired!! Thanks for any advice you can offer regardnig the AB5N mods. 73 ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Observation on new Synthesizers for K3
Bob, Correcting my original post, I meant to say According to ARRL Lab measurements. I don't know enough about Yaesu history to know the answer to that. On Wed,7/8/2015 7:01 PM, Richard W. Solomon wrote: So you are saying the FTDX-5KMP is no longer one of the worst ??? No, just not as bad as before the update. :) Where does it stack up today, in your opinion ?? I suspect it's in the range of the Icom rigs -- 7800, 7600, but won't know until I can measure one to the same precision that I measured the FTDX5000. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Observation on new Synthesizers for K3
Oh, that's easy to explain. Overheard: CW? What's CW? ... Really? ... Nobody uses that anymore. You actually going to spend money on THAT??? 73, Guy K2AV On Thursday, July 9, 2015, John Bohnovic k...@att.net wrote: How could Yaesu release the radio, with the original CW bandwidth, for production in the first place? 73..de John/K4WJ On 7/8/2015 9:43 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Wed,7/8/2015 10:28 AM, Mike Harris wrote: The transceiver in question is an FTDX5000. According to FCC measurments, it's one of the worst of the expensive modern rigs for CW bandwidth. BUT -- Yaesu issued a firmware update last fall, and my before/after measurements of a N6TA's FTDX5000 showed a significant improvement. 73, Jim K9YC -- Sent via Gmail Mobile on my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
Bob, With such positive expectations, I'm sure your K3S will have great audio :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 7/9/15 4:09 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: This system, being in the new K3S, should make a big difference in receive audio. I certainly look forward to receiving my new K3S-F. Thanks Wayne! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/9/2015 6:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Also note that the K3 has stereo, 4-ohm-capable external speaker outputs. You can really get pet-hair-raising amounts of audio out if you need it. Using two speakers allows you to take advantage of the left/right main/sub RX audio as well as audio effects. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
I'm missing something. Wayne said that's in the K3 now. He did not say only the K3S did he? Tom NY4I Principal Solutions Architect Better Software Solutions, Inc. 727-437-2771 On Jul 9, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX rmcg...@blomand.net wrote: This system, being in the new K3S, should make a big difference in receive audio. I certainly look forward to receiving my new K3S-F. Thanks Wayne! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/9/2015 6:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Also note that the K3 has stereo, 4-ohm-capable external speaker outputs. You can really get pet-hair-raising amounts of audio out if you need it. Using two speakers allows you to take advantage of the left/right main/sub RX audio as well as audio effects. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to t...@xmission.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Magic of Radio
That was great! Thanks for sharing. Brian KB1VBF Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2015, at 4:17 AM, Doug Turnbull turnb...@net1.ie wrote: Dear OMs and Yls, This one was sent me by Barry, W5GN. I think it portrays some of the magic which brought many of us into Ham Radio. You might enjoy the ninety seconds it takes to watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxU1ZhINaHk 73 Doug EI2CN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to b.den...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
K3S ONLY as of now. I'm missing something. Wayne said that's in the K3 now. He did not say only the K3S did he? Tom NY4I Principal Solutions Architect Better Software Solutions, Inc. 727-437-2771 On Jul 9, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX rmcg...@blomand.net wrote: This system, being in the new K3S, should make a big difference in receive audio. I certainly look forward to receiving my new K3S-F. Thanks Wayne! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/9/2015 6:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Also note that the K3 has stereo, 4-ohm-capable external speaker outputs. You can really get pet-hair-raising amounts of audio out if you need it. Using two speakers allows you to take advantage of the left/right main/sub RX audio as well as audio effects. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to t...@xmission.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@flex.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
I think Bob is referring to the new, improved RX audio (I think it's only RX) in the K3S DSP board, not yet available as a K3 upgrade. Phil W7OX On 7/9/15 5:52 PM, Tom Schaefer wrote: I'm missing something. Wayne said that's in the K3 now. He did not say only the K3S did he? Tom NY4I Principal Solutions Architect Better Software Solutions, Inc. 727-437-2771 On Jul 9, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX rmcg...@blomand.net wrote: This system, being in the new K3S, should make a big difference in receive audio. I certainly look forward to receiving my new K3S-F. Thanks Wayne! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/9/2015 6:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Also note that the K3 has stereo, 4-ohm-capable external speaker outputs. You can really get pet-hair-raising amounts of audio out if you need it. Using two speakers allows you to take advantage of the left/right main/sub RX audio as well as audio effects. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 using LP-Pan2 to drive the PX3
The PX3 can decode the I/Q outputs from the LP-Pan just fine - you will have a spectrum display. However, integration is quite another question. You will not have the frequency display as you would when connected to the KX3. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/9/2015 7:51 PM, Al Sather wrote: I just got a PX3 and in the midst of learning to use it. I also have a K2 with an added IF port (Z1000 buffer kit,Clifton Laboratories). My original intent was to use Larry Phipps', N8LP, LP-Pan-2, with my modified K2 and software like NaP3 as a panadapter, but now I have a PX3. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
But in the works and coming. 73, Guy K2AV On Thursday, July 9, 2015, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote: I think Bob is referring to the new, improved RX audio (I think it's only RX) in the K3S DSP board, not yet available as a K3 upgrade. Phil W7OX On 7/9/15 5:52 PM, Tom Schaefer wrote: I'm missing something. Wayne said that's in the K3 now. He did not say only the K3S did he? Tom NY4I Principal Solutions Architect Better Software Solutions, Inc. 727-437-2771 On Jul 9, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX rmcg...@blomand.net wrote: This system, being in the new K3S, should make a big difference in receive audio. I certainly look forward to receiving my new K3S-F. Thanks Wayne! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/9/2015 6:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Also note that the K3 has stereo, 4-ohm-capable external speaker outputs. You can really get pet-hair-raising amounts of audio out if you need it. Using two speakers allows you to take advantage of the left/right main/sub RX audio as well as audio effects. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k2av@gmail.com -- Sent via Gmail Mobile on my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Enhancements and improvements to the K3S
{was MH2 question}
Here's the enhancements and improvements to the K3S
From the K3S data sheet:
* Enhanced look and feel, with new LCD bezel, soft-touch VFO knob
* Ultra low-noise synthesizer for exceptional strong-signal receive
performance and transmit signal purity (KSYN3A)
* USB port—integrates remote control and line-level audio, eliminating
the need for a PC sound card and audio cables
* Second preamp for 12-6 m weak signal work (on included KXV3B module)
* Multiple attenuators, providing steps of -5/-10/-15 dB
* Lower-Loss ATU option with true bypass relay (KAT3A)
* Redesigned AF output circuitry for outstanding speaker audio
* Accurate, high-speed CW transmit even in SPLIT mode
* Coverage of the 630-meter band (~470 kHz), and lower
IMO - these are things that will make a good radio a great radio.
73 Bob, K4TAX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX audio (was MH2 question)
We are drifting way off the original post question which was related to the K2 and transmit audio. If the discussion is to morph to the K3 and its receive audio, someone needs to change the subject line. The K3 does have the RX EQ which can change the RX audio substantially. The internal speaker is pretty good, but is not of Hi-Fi quality. Put a pair of good bookshelf speakers on the rear speaker jack and the character of the K3 receive audio changes drastically. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/9/2015 8:52 PM, Tom Schaefer wrote: I'm missing something. Wayne said that's in the K3 now. He did not say only the K3S did he? Tom NY4I Principal Solutions Architect Better Software Solutions, Inc. 727-437-2771 On Jul 9, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX rmcg...@blomand.net wrote: This system, being in the new K3S, should make a big difference in receive audio. I certainly look forward to receiving my new K3S-F. Thanks Wayne! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/9/2015 6:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Also note that the K3 has stereo, 4-ohm-capable external speaker outputs. You can really get pet-hair-raising amounts of audio out if you need it. Using two speakers allows you to take advantage of the left/right main/sub RX audio as well as audio effects. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to t...@xmission.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w3...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
The best and easiest fix for bad K3 audio is to simply tell the other ham you're using a Kensucom. He will respond with, Oh yeah, your Kensucom has great audio, old man! Al W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] [OT] Magic of Radio
Dear OMs and Yls, This one was sent me by Barry, W5GN. I think it portrays some of the magic which brought many of us into Ham Radio. You might enjoy the ninety seconds it takes to watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxU1ZhINaHk 73 Doug EI2CN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 and PX3 for sale
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
Bob,
Are you saying the K3 TX audio was
unsatisfactory? If so, that's the first report of
it I've heard (assuming everything is adjusted
correctly).
BTW -- re the thread topic: My K2 has always
received outstanding audio reports, though
nowadays I use my K3. But I never much liked the
MH2 mic due to the really strong spring in the PTT
:-) I use a Kenwood M43 with my K3 (and it is
newly synthed).
I'm not familiar with the AB5N mods, though I may
have done something of the sort on K2 #380.
73, Phil W7OX
On 7/9/15 8:38 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
I've never owned or used a K2. However I have
assembled two of the K3 kits for others who felt
they were not capable of doing so. Thus I have
had the opportunity to use two different K3
radios. One of the very serious short comings,
and main reason for me not purchasing a K3
earlier, is the unsatisfactory quality of the
audio. To that end, with changes announced in
the K3S, specifically in the audio section, I
have a new K3S on order. Let's hope it performs
or it will be sold.
I've used other radios which do have great
audio, both on receive and transmit. I find it
very important that a good mike suited to the
user's voice and good microphone technique is a
large part of the key to great audio on SSB.
{key words here {suited to the user's voice}
and {good microphone technique}.
73 Bob, K4TAX
Soon to be a new K3S owner.
On 7/9/2015 10:06 AM, Eddy Avila wrote:
Has anyone sent their Heil MH2 to AB5N Bob Nagy
for his upgrade? I've never been impressed with
my K2 SSB tx audio and I've done everything
Elecraft has recommended to improve the TX
audio, including sending it to Gary for
alignment -- Gary did a wonderful job aligning
my K2, but the K2 TX audio still leaves a lot
to be desired!!
Thanks for any advice you can offer regardnig
the AB5N mods.
73
ed
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[Elecraft] K3 scanning issue with squelch
I have set up 3 channels to scan at 50 MHz. Not that it matters, but they are in channels 16-18. First is 50.089.58, second 50.125, third 50.145 MHz, mode USB. Very often, scanning stops at the last entry (50.145 MHz) and the squelch breaks. I have a constant S3 noise level here (that's another project!) but there are never any signals nor transients. The S meter never shows any type of signal, and there is never any audible signals when squelch breaks, just my soothing :( steady noise level. Even if I turn the squelch fully CCW, i think the value is 30, it still breaks at .145 just as often. In other words, the squelch setting makes no difference. Any ideas what may be causing this and how to tame it? -Chris K1AY -- Life is like Linux - it never stands still. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone
needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker
on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said
that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in
general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external
devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO.
Mel. K6KBE
From: Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com
To: Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
I was a bit shocked, or at least surprised, at what K4TAX was saying. I think
he might mean the quality of the audio plus speaker system of the default K3,
not TX audio. Or, at least hopefully he means that. I know others have
complained about the level of audio volume or whatever in listening to a K3’s
built in speaker.
But, I had to say that no complaints have I ever heard about TX audio. In
fact, if anyone chooses to comment on my K3 TX Audio, it is a very good comment
on the quality of the signal and audio.
I don’t use my K3 with the built in speakers — use stereo West Mountain Radio
COMspkr or CM500 headset instead and I am fine with the resulting audio of the
K3.
On Jul 9, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Bob,
Are you saying the K3 TX audio was unsatisfactory? If so, that's the first
report of it I've heard (assuming everything is adjusted correctly).
BTW -- re the thread topic: My K2 has always received outstanding audio
reports, though nowadays I use my K3. But I never much liked the MH2 mic due
to the really strong spring in the PTT :-) I use a Kenwood M43 with my K3
(and it is newly synthed).
I'm not familiar with the AB5N mods, though I may have done something of the
sort on K2 #380.
73, Phil W7OX
On 7/9/15 8:38 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
I've never owned or used a K2. However I have assembled two of the K3 kits
for others who felt they were not capable of doing so. Thus I have had the
opportunity to use two different K3 radios. One of the very serious short
comings, and main reason for me not purchasing a K3 earlier, is the
unsatisfactory quality of the audio. To that end, with changes announced in
the K3S, specifically in the audio section, I have a new K3S on order. Let's
hope it performs or it will be sold.
I've used other radios which do have great audio, both on receive and
transmit. I find it very important that a good mike suited to the user's
voice and good microphone technique is a large part of the key to great
audio on SSB. {key words here {suited to the user's voice} and {good
microphone technique}.
73 Bob, K4TAX
Soon to be a new K3S owner.
On 7/9/2015 10:06 AM, Eddy Avila wrote:
Has anyone sent their Heil MH2 to AB5N Bob Nagy for his upgrade? I've never
been impressed with my K2 SSB tx audio and I've done everything Elecraft
has recommended to improve the TX audio, including sending it to Gary for
alignment -- Gary did a wonderful job aligning my K2, but the K2 TX audio
still leaves a lot to be desired!!
Thanks for any advice you can offer regardnig the AB5N mods.
73
ed
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
Yeah, this *has* to be a mis-communications somewhere. I use the Proset with the iC2 electret element from Elecraft. I regularly get unsolicited really great audio comments in contests, I'll likely get several in the IARU this weakend if I decide to try out phone. I have a nondescript, almost non-noticeable voice [latter based on the number of times my wife interrupts me with a totally different subject :-)] so I know it's not me, I do NOT sound like Walter Cronkite. Most non-carbon mics are pretty flat over the nominal 2.8 KHz communications bandwidth, I really don't think you need a mic to match your voice. The K3's TX EQ can make a world of difference however, and apparently does for me. I have the SSB adapter in my K2 but I've never connected a mic to it. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 7/9/2015 3:16 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: I was a bit shocked, or at least surprised, at what K4TAX was saying. I think he might mean the quality of the audio plus speaker system of the default K3, not TX audio. Or, at least hopefully he means that. I know others have complained about the level of audio volume or whatever in listening to a K3’s built in speaker. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
My voice, i am told, makes any mic sound bad. So states the bride.:-( The K3 EQ corrects this birth defect. So say others..:-) Gary Vk1ZZ K3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT On 10/07/2015 8:52 AM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: Yeah, this *has* to be a mis-communications somewhere. I use the Proset with the iC2 electret element from Elecraft. I regularly get unsolicited really great audio comments in contests, I'll likely get several in the IARU this weakend if I decide to try out phone. I have a nondescript, almost non-noticeable voice [latter based on the number of times my wife interrupts me with a totally different subject :-)] so I know it's not me, I do NOT sound like Walter Cronkite. Most non-carbon mics are pretty flat over the nominal 2.8 KHz communications bandwidth, I really don't think you need a mic to match your voice. The K3's TX EQ can make a world of difference however, and apparently does for me. I have the SSB adapter in my K2 but I've never connected a mic to it. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 7/9/2015 3:16 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: I was a bit shocked, or at least surprised, at what K4TAX was saying. I think he might mean the quality of the audio plus speaker system of the default K3, not TX audio. Or, at least hopefully he means that. I know others have complained about the level of audio volume or whatever in listening to a K3’s built in speaker. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzg...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
Also note that the K3 has stereo, 4-ohm-capable external speaker outputs. You can really get pet-hair-raising amounts of audio out if you need it. Using two speakers allows you to take advantage of the left/right main/sub RX audio as well as audio effects. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
Ed, Several responses to your post have brought comments regarding the K3 TX audio, but I have not seen any specifically addressing the K2. The K3 TX audio can be tailored using the 8 band TX Equalizer which can be used to make most any microphone sound like the best studio microphone in the world if you are inclined to do a bit of tailoring - no need for an external equalizer, it is built in. If you have a K2, you may be interested in the following - If not, you may want to hit the delete key now, the rest is K2 related. I do not think Gary has aligned many K2s in the past few years. I have handled most of the more recent Elecraft K2 repairs, and do not see your call in my records, so I am wondering just how long ago that alignment was performed. You may want to look at your K2 rather than the microphone. I would hate to see you spend $50 or so on a mod to your microphone and find no added benefit because of limitations in your K2 or your SSBA and SSBC menu settings. K2s that I have aligned often garner unsolicited TX audio reports, and I have received that report from many customers. The MH2 does have the peaking response in the 2800 to 3200 Hz region - the same as many other ham microphones. How old is your K2, and what is the width of the KSB2 filter (2.1kHz or 2.4kHz)? The early KSB2 boards had the 2.1kHz filter while later ones have the 2.4kHz filter - that filter is used on transmit as well as receive. To determine which one you have, look at the capacitor row just to the left of the crystals on the KSB2 board - if all 6 capacitor locations are populated, you have the earlier 2.1 kHz filter, but if there are only 4 capacitors fitted, it is the 2.4 kHz filter. Should you want to change the filter width, Elecraft has the SSBCAPKT available to do that - but check the crystals first. If they are labeled anything other than 49136-S, you must replace the crystals when widening the KSB2 filter. If your KSB2 has the older crystals, your base K2 RF board likely has the older crystals as well and will result in better filters if replaced. Elecraft has a set of 7 matched crystals as well as a matched set of 14 available. The other thing that will affect your SSB transmit (and receive) audio is the placement of the audio passband for LSB and USB. That may be corrected by proper filter alignment (CAL FIL). There is another thing that can affect the K2 TX audio, and that is too much bass. The KSB2 does allow low bass frequencies to be transmitted. While some hams like that, it uses excessive power in the PEP envelope. You can reduce that response by changing 2 capacitors on the KSB2 board. Change C34 to a 0.47uF electrolytic and change C32 to a capacitor between 0.0033 and 0.005 uF. (4700pF is an easily available mid-range value). 73, Don W3FPR On 7/9/2015 11:06 AM, Eddy Avila wrote: Has anyone sent their Heil MH2 to AB5N Bob Nagy for his upgrade? I've never been impressed with my K2 SSB tx audio and I've done everything Elecraft has recommended to improve the TX audio, including sending it to Gary for alignment -- Gary did a wonderful job aligning my K2, but the K2 TX audio still leaves a lot to be desired!! Thanks for any advice you can offer regardnig the AB5N mods. 73 ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
This system, being in the new K3S, should make a big difference in receive audio. I certainly look forward to receiving my new K3S-F. Thanks Wayne! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/9/2015 6:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Also note that the K3 has stereo, 4-ohm-capable external speaker outputs. You can really get pet-hair-raising amounts of audio out if you need it. Using two speakers allows you to take advantage of the left/right main/sub RX audio as well as audio effects. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I think the issue of the audio output of the K series is sufficient to anyone needing a simple system. I for one have never used any of the inboard speaker on any radio preferring to use external devices to suit my needs. Having said that the audio sharpness / crispness is good on the internal speaker in general. Fidelity is a different story. That' s what earphones and external devices are for. The Tx audio is par excellence. IMHO. Mel. K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MH2 question
I was a bit shocked, or at least surprised, at what K4TAX was saying. I think
he might mean the quality of the audio plus speaker system of the default K3,
not TX audio. Or, at least hopefully he means that. I know others have
complained about the level of audio volume or whatever in listening to a K3’s
built in speaker.
But, I had to say that no complaints have I ever heard about TX audio. In
fact, if anyone chooses to comment on my K3 TX Audio, it is a very good comment
on the quality of the signal and audio.
I don’t use my K3 with the built in speakers — use stereo West Mountain Radio
COMspkr or CM500 headset instead and I am fine with the resulting audio of the
K3.
On Jul 9, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Bob,
Are you saying the K3 TX audio was unsatisfactory? If so, that's the first
report of it I've heard (assuming everything is adjusted correctly).
BTW -- re the thread topic: My K2 has always received outstanding audio
reports, though nowadays I use my K3. But I never much liked the MH2 mic due
to the really strong spring in the PTT :-) I use a Kenwood M43 with my K3
(and it is newly synthed).
I'm not familiar with the AB5N mods, though I may have done something of the
sort on K2 #380.
73, Phil W7OX
On 7/9/15 8:38 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
I've never owned or used a K2. However I have assembled two of the K3 kits
for others who felt they were not capable of doing so. Thus I have had the
opportunity to use two different K3 radios. One of the very serious short
comings, and main reason for me not purchasing a K3 earlier, is the
unsatisfactory quality of the audio. To that end, with changes announced
in the K3S, specifically in the audio section, I have a new K3S on order.
Let's hope it performs or it will be sold.
I've used other radios which do have great audio, both on receive and
transmit. I find it very important that a good mike suited to the user's
voice and good microphone technique is a large part of the key to great
audio on SSB. {key words here {suited to the user's voice} and {good
microphone technique}.
73 Bob, K4TAX
Soon to be a new K3S owner.
On 7/9/2015 10:06 AM, Eddy Avila wrote:
Has anyone sent their Heil MH2 to AB5N Bob Nagy for his upgrade? I've never
been impressed with my K2 SSB tx audio and I've done everything Elecraft
has recommended to improve the TX audio, including sending it to Gary for
alignment -- Gary did a wonderful job aligning my K2, but the K2 TX audio
still leaves a lot to be desired!!
Thanks for any advice you can offer regardnig the AB5N mods.
73
ed
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[Elecraft] K2 using LP-Pan2 to drive the PX3
I just got a PX3 and in the midst of learning to use it. I also have a K2 with an added IF port (Z1000 buffer kit,Clifton Laboratories). My original intent was to use Larry Phipps', N8LP, LP-Pan-2, with my modified K2 and software like NaP3 as a panadapter, but now I have a PX3. Originally I used this setup with my Kenwood TS-850 and an external sound card. The LP-Pan2 has crystals for both radios. Now my question, can the K2 using LP-Pan2 I/Q ports be used to drive the PX3, and if so how well will it integrate with the PX3? 73, Al ve7ear __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
