Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-28 Thread Anders Wallin
 ah, this is bad news.   I needed the 3D and CAM functions.

Most, if not all, of the 3D operations in heekscnc call opencamlib.
Opencamlib (https://github.com/aewallin/opencamlib) is a c++ library
with python bindings for axial and radial projection of cylindrical,
spherical, toroidal, and conical tools onto polyhedral surfaces. The
axial cutter-projection, aka. drop-cutter, code has been pretty
stable for a while.

The radial, push-cutter, code which is used for waterline-toolpaths
is not as good. When we have a lot of push-cutter results we need to
hook these up in a sensible way, using some kind of area-model, to
form the toolpath. What I'm using now[1] is called a ray intersection
graph[2] I think, but it seems a quad-tree based approach[3] might be
better.

I think a lot of 3D and 2.5D capability can be built on top of these
drop-cutter and push-cutter low level functions. I'll try to
support integration of opencamlib into FreeCAD as best I can.

Anders

[1] 
http://www.anderswallin.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/weave_input_output1.png
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersection_graph
[3] 
http://www.freesteel.co.uk/wpblog/2011/11/unit-testing-cam-algorithms-what-could-that-be-about/

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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-28 Thread John Stewart
Whoops - pre-coffee typo, or the auto-spelling-corrector corrected for me:


 
 It is in the FreeWRL code; freewill.sf.net; used for avatar/object collision 
 in 3D worlds. (see note 1)
 

That's freewrl.sf.net, not freewill… 

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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-28 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 11/28/2011 9:29 AM, John Stewart wrote:
 Whoops - pre-coffee typo, or the auto-spelling-corrector corrected for me:


 It is in the FreeWRL code; freewill.sf.net; used for avatar/object collision 
 in 3D worlds. (see note 1)

 That's freewrl.sf.net, not freewill…

 John Alexander Stewart.
Don't blame the caffeine, John. It was your Free Will that made you do it:-)

Cool idea, using the GPU.

Regards,
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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-28 Thread Peter Georgi
Hi Anders,

Thank you, I found the downloads.

No, unfourtunatly I'm not able to help you. AS a
former dentist I never used the math stuff after
the end of my studies. C++ is also a programing
language I do not have any skills. Sorry.

Regards Peter 

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The codebase moved to github some time ago:
https://github.com/heeks

The google-code page might still have some useful
stuff in the wiki:
http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/

There's been some activity around FreeCAD also. It
is, like heekscad, based on OpenCascade, and has
python scripting/bindings:
http://free-cad.sourceforge.net/

I've worked on some cutter-projection algorithms
for 3D machining (opencamlib), a voronoi-diagram
algorithm for 2D machining(openvoronoi), and a
cutting-simulation for toolpath
verification(cutsim, could/should be integrated
into emc2?). All of these projects are more or
less experimental (if you're talented at
c++, math, geometry, computational-geometry or
something similar we
need your help!)

Anders

 Hi, I was looking for the above software. The
web page still exists, 
 but I coudn't find a place from where to
download. Has anybody an idea 
 where it moved or what it happend?
 Actualy I'm looking for a CAM program that is
free or at least 
 afordabel, working and easy to use.
 Regards Peter Georgi

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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-28 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On Nov 28, 2011, at 01:49 , Anders Wallin wrote:

 I think a lot of 3D and 2.5D capability can be built on top of these
 drop-cutter and push-cutter low level functions. I'll try to
 support integration of opencamlib into FreeCAD as best I can.


Yay!  Thanks Anders!


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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-28 Thread Mark Cason
On 11/27/2011 01:05 PM, s...@highlab.com wrote:
 The Heeks project is officially shutting down, and they are suggesting that 
 users move to the Freecad project.  Unfortunately, Freecad does not yet have 
 any cam support, so you can draw parts but you can't make gcode tool paths 
 yet.

   Where did you hear that HeeksCAD was shutting down?  I've been 
googling, and the only thing I can find that says anything about them 
shutting down, is your email.

   I'm asking, because someone I know locally, saw your email, and asked 
me about it.

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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-28 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Right at the top, here: http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/

I don't have time to administer HeeksCAD properly and I suggest for a more 
active project you look at FreeCAD.


On Nov 28, 2011, at 11:40 , Mark Cason wrote:

 On 11/27/2011 01:05 PM, s...@highlab.com wrote:
 The Heeks project is officially shutting down, and they are suggesting that 
 users move to the Freecad project.  Unfortunately, Freecad does not yet have 
 any cam support, so you can draw parts but you can't make gcode tool paths 
 yet.
 
   Where did you hear that HeeksCAD was shutting down?  I've been 
 googling, and the only thing I can find that says anything about them 
 shutting down, is your email.
 
   I'm asking, because someone I know locally, saw your email, and asked 
 me about it.
 
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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-28 Thread Thomas Powderly
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Mark Cason farmerboy1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On 11/27/2011 01:05 PM, s...@highlab.com wrote:
 The Heeks project is officially shutting down, and they are suggesting that 
 users move to the Freecad project.  Unfortunately, Freecad does not yet have 
 any cam support, so you can draw parts but you can't make gcode tool paths 
 yet.

   Where did you hear that HeeksCAD was shutting down?  I've been
 googling, and the only thing I can find that says anything about them
 shutting down, is your email.

   I'm asking, because someone I know locally, saw your email, and asked
 me about it.

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i made a new pkg for i386
http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/downloads/detail?name=heekscad_beta-0.18.0_i386.debcan=2q=#makechanges
dan got me the src bundle, thx dan!

hth
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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-28 Thread Dave Caroline
deflecting interest is not shutting down

Dave Caroline

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote:
 Right at the top, here: http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/

 I don't have time to administer HeeksCAD properly and I suggest for a more 
 active project you look at FreeCAD.


 On Nov 28, 2011, at 11:40 , Mark Cason wrote:

 On 11/27/2011 01:05 PM, s...@highlab.com wrote:
 The Heeks project is officially shutting down, and they are suggesting that 
 users move to the Freecad project.  Unfortunately, Freecad does not yet 
 have any cam support, so you can draw parts but you can't make gcode tool 
 paths yet.

   Where did you hear that HeeksCAD was shutting down?  I've been
 googling, and the only thing I can find that says anything about them
 shutting down, is your email.

   I'm asking, because someone I know locally, saw your email, and asked
 me about it.

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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-28 Thread Mark Cason
On 11/28/2011 12:42 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
 Right at the top, here: http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/

 I don't have time to administer HeeksCAD properly and I suggest for a more 
 active project you look at FreeCAD.

   I've looked at that page many times, and never noticed that.  However 
it seems that it's still being updated, albeit at a slower rate than 
before.  At least there are still git commits, as recent as Nov 15, and 
software updates by Dan, as recent as July 20.

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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-27 Thread Anders Wallin
The codebase moved to github some time ago:
https://github.com/heeks

The google-code page might still have some useful stuff in the wiki:
http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/

There's been some activity around FreeCAD also. It is, like heekscad,
based on OpenCascade, and has python scripting/bindings:
http://free-cad.sourceforge.net/

I've worked on some cutter-projection algorithms for 3D machining
(opencamlib), a voronoi-diagram algorithm for 2D
machining(openvoronoi), and a cutting-simulation for toolpath
verification(cutsim, could/should be integrated into emc2?). All of
these projects are more or less experimental (if you're talented at
c++, math, geometry, computational-geometry or something similar we
need your help!)

Anders

 Hi, I was looking for the above software. The web
 page still exists, but I coudn't find a place from
 where to download. Has anybody an idea where it
 moved or what it happend?
 Actualy I'm looking for a CAM program that is free
 or at least afordabel, working and easy to use.
 Regards Peter Georgi

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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-27 Thread s...@highlab.com
The Heeks project is officially shutting down, and they are suggesting that 
users move to the Freecad project.  Unfortunately, Freecad does not yet have 
any cam support, so you can draw parts but you can't make gcode tool paths yet.

- Reply message -
From: Peter Georgi georg...@bluewin.ch
Date: Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:16
Subject: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Hi, I was looking for the above software. The web
page still exists, but I coudn't find a place from
where to download. Has anybody an idea where it
moved or what it happend?

Actualy I'm looking for a CAM program that is free
or at least afordabel, working and easy to use.

Regards Peter Georgi


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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-27 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, November 27, 2011 02:11:03 PM s...@highlab.com did opine:

 The Heeks project is officially shutting down, and they are suggesting
 that users move to the Freecad project.  Unfortunately, Freecad does
 not yet have any cam support, so you can draw parts but you can't make
 gcode tool paths yet.
 
That sucks.  HeeksCNC might be ported to Freecad?  Depending in the license 
of course, but re-inventing wheels is a bit boring.

So I head off to go see if I can build freecad, but an hour later, on 
pclos, no.  The QT Webkit dependencies (-devel stuff) is missing from the 
pclos repo's so build.sh terminates:

checking whether QtWebKit is available... no
checking for Qt = 4.3... configure: error: Cannot find Qt meta object 
compiler (moc), bye...

QTWebkit is installed (as libqtwebkit) but no -devel files are in the repo.  
Damn this sucks.

However, it does appear that freecad is in far better shape than heekscad 
for available dox.  That file alone is 26 megs in the tar.bz2 I pulled.

Sigh, while I appreciate the near absolute stability of pclos, stuff like 
this has me burning Centos6 disks.  I have a machine I call goat cuz its 
sacrificial, so I think its next install is on those 2 dvd's now.

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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 November 2011 20:12, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 That sucks.  HeeksCNC might be ported to Freecad?

I think it's already been done. But I can't remember who did it.

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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-27 Thread s...@highlab.com
It was Dan Falck, but i think it was just a proof-of-concept prototype, and it 
has not been merged yet.

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To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

On 27 November 2011 20:12, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 That sucks.  HeeksCNC might be ported to Freecad?

I think it's already been done. But I can't remember who did it.

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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-27 Thread Dan Field
ah, this is bad news.   I needed the 3D and CAM functions.  I am just 
now getting around in Heekscnc well enough to do what I need to do.  
Really a shame to get Heekscnc this far and let it fall off the map.  I 
am just a modeler in my garage and after looking at all the 3D CAM 
offerings on the Wiki list, Heekscnc was the easiest for ME to 
understand though after watching every YouTube vid and any and all help 
I could find I just wish there was more users to toss issues around with 
to learn more.

For a hobbiest like me, spending hundreds or even thousands on CAM 
software isn't going to happen so I of course really appreciated the 
Open Source price point of free.

Many thanks to Dan Heeks for getting it this far and I plan on still 
using it as is for now.

regards
Dan



On 11/27/2011 11:05 AM, s...@highlab.com wrote:
 The Heeks project is officially shutting down, and they are suggesting that 
 users move to the Freecad project.  Unfortunately, Freecad does not yet have 
 any cam support, so you can draw parts but you can't make gcode tool paths 
 yet.

 - Reply message -
 From: Peter Georgigeorg...@bluewin.ch
 Date: Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:16
 Subject: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC
 To:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

 Hi, I was looking for the above software. The web
 page still exists, but I coudn't find a place from
 where to download. Has anybody an idea where it
 moved or what it happend?

 Actualy I'm looking for a CAM program that is free
 or at least afordabel, working and easy to use.

 Regards Peter Georgi


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