Re: I hope no one has bought Europa (yet)!
>>>Yep -- the 1958 story was called "Watch This Space" Yeah, I'm aware of "Watch This Space." But this was different, and more recent. Perhaps it was Pizza Hut, before it was sold out of the Pepsi behemouth. Geeze, I wish I'd saved those stories. Anyway, apart from the beginnings of outcry about the plan, it was also deemed unfeasable due to the numbers involved and abandoned. Still, we did get to see a giant, blow-op Pepsi can on Mir! Jayme Lynn Blaschke ___ "The Dust" coming April 2001 in THE ANT-MEN OF TIBET, AND OTHER STORIES from Big Engine http://www.bigengine.co.uk/index.htm Blaschke Home Realm http://www.vvm.com/~caius (u are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com/europa/
Re: I hope no one has bought Europa (yet)!
In a message dated 2/14/2001 7:10:04 PM Alaskan Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >I think you're thinking of a series stories by Arthur > >C. Clarke, in which a multinational Expedition > >(British. American and Soviet) land on the Moon. In > >one of them, a sodium flare is secretly fitted with a > >stencil that forms the name of a popular soft drink in > >the 1950's. Clarke never mentions it by name, but the > >commander of the British ship, used to drink a > >beverage, in a wasp-waisted bottle, until after the > >incident. There's an old French version of the same thing, from 1880 or so, by a Frenchman named Giles Villiers or something. Look for it in Cruel Tales. == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com/europa/
Re: I hope no one has bought Europa (yet)!
-Original Message- From: James McEnanly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: Re: I hope no one has bought Europa (yet)! > >I think you're thinking of a series stories by Arthur >C. Clarke, in which a multinational Expedition >(British. American and Soviet) land on the Moon. In >one of them, a sodium flare is secretly fitted with a >stencil that forms the name of a popular soft drink in >the 1950's. Clarke never mentions it by name, but the >commander of the British ship, used to drink a >beverage, in a wasp-waisted bottle, until after the >incident. >--- Jayme Blaschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> In the meantime, I'm thankful we can still look >> at the moon through telecopes without seeing the >> golden arches of mcdonalds engraved somewhere on its >> surface. :) >> >> Was it Pepsi or Coke or somebody who caught flack a >> few years back for studying the feasability of >> beaming a laser logo onto the surface of the moon to >> be visible from Earth? Someone did. And someday >> someone will go through with it for the stunt value >> alone. Yuck. >> Yep -- the 1958 story was called "Watch This Space", and the sodium jet was ostensibly to produce a giant artificial aurora to study the Moon's atmosphere. As things turned out, "the L and As were a little distorted, but the Cs and Os were perfect." Just a matter of time, folks. Bruce Moomaw == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com/europa/
Re: I hope no one has bought Europa (yet)!
I think you're thinking of a series stories by Arthur C. Clarke, in which a multinational Expedition (British. American and Soviet) land on the Moon. In one of them, a sodium flare is secretly fitted with a stencil that forms the name of a popular soft drink in the 1950's. Clarke nevermentions it by name, but the commander of the British ship, used to drink a beverage ina wasp-waisted bottle, until after the incident. --- Jayme Blaschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> In the meantime, I'm thankful we can still look > at the moon through telecopes without seeing the > golden arches of mcdonalds engraved somewhere on its > surface. :) > > Was it Pepsi or Coke or somebody who caught flack a > few years back for studying the feasability of > beaming a laser logo onto the surface of the moon to > be visible from Earth? Someone did. And someday > someone will go through with it for the stunt value > alone. Yuck. > > Jayme Lynn Blaschke > ___ > "The Dust" coming April 2001 in > THE ANT-MEN OF TIBET, AND OTHER STORIES > from Big Engine > http://www.bigengine.co.uk/index.htm > > Blaschke Home Realm > http://www.vvm.com/~caius > > =You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing > list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Project information and list (un)subscribe info: > http://klx.com/europa/ > = Sincerely James McEnanly __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com/europa/
Re: I hope no one has bought Europa (yet)!
Okay, kids, here's how it works, from what I can determine: 1) Orbital Development has no valid claim. I don't know of any agency with sufficient authority to give them such a claim. The only one on Earth capable of doing so would be something like a UN Space Development Authority, operating under the auspices of an international treaty ratified by at least 75% of the nations on Earth. 2) There is no such Space Treaty. The closest thing we have is something similar to the Law of the Sea Treaty and Antarctic Treaty, which says lots of well-meaning platitudes about common ownership of man. 3) Even assuming OD did have a claim, enforcing it would be another matter. For instance, how would they force NASA to pay them for trespass? How would they determine the harm? How much is the asteroid worth? Etc, etc. 4) It seems to me that space claims will be settled in much the same way that Indian Ocean claims were settled by the European powers of 400 years ago... first to land there gets it, and then it must be backed up with power, and only at the end, with 'legal authority'. So... send a probe. Land. THEN stake your claim with an international body. Under these terms, NASA would have claim... but their charter specifically forbids it. So, Eros is still free game. Star Trek, anyone? -- JHB == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com/europa/
Re: I hope no one has bought Europa (yet)!
At 01:35 PM 2/14/01 -0600, you wrote: >In the meantime, I'm thankful we can still look at the moon through >telecopes without seeing the golden arches of mcdonalds engraved somewhere >on its surface. :) Better look now, as the moon's surface will probably be turned over within a 1,000 years as we extract every gram of Helium 3 we can. == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com/europa/
Re: I hope no one has bought Europa (yet)!
>>> In the meantime, I'm thankful we can still look at the moon through telecopes >without seeing the golden arches of mcdonalds engraved somewhere on its surface. :) Was it Pepsi or Coke or somebody who caught flack a few years back for studying the feasability of beaming a laser logo onto the surface of the moon to be visible from Earth? Someone did. And someday someone will go through with it for the stunt value alone. Yuck. Jayme Lynn Blaschke ___ "The Dust" coming April 2001 in THE ANT-MEN OF TIBET, AND OTHER STORIES from Big Engine http://www.bigengine.co.uk/index.htm Blaschke Home Realm http://www.vvm.com/~caius (u are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com/europa/
Re: I hope no one has bought Europa (yet)!
I regret to inform you that I've already filed a claim for the entire jovian system with Caveat Emptor Holdings inc. But don't worry, we're having a special on all our Europan rental properties (on our already low "explorers discount")! Just mail in your deposit form with $9,999.99 and we'll secure your landing site. A cute article, and maybe there is potential for the "Tranquility Sea germanium rush" in 2049, but I'd imagine commercial operations in space will follow the same legal precendants as the oceans here on earth. Oh well, I guess this proves lawyers have dreams too. In the meantime, I'm thankful we can still look at the moon through telecopes without seeing the golden arches of mcdonalds engraved somewhere on its surface. :) Jayme Blaschke wrote: > What a moron. If the situation were really as wide-open as that, all NASA would have >to do is bring condemnation proceedings to play against Eros, as the supposed >"owners" have never visited the property, and certainly never made any improvements >to it... > > Seriously, isn't it about time someone gets taken to task for frivolous stupidity? > > Jayme Lynn Blaschke == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com/europa/
Re: I hope no one has bought Europa (yet)!
What a moron. If the situation were really as wide-open as that, all NASA would have to do is bring condemnation proceedings to play against Eros, as the supposed "owners" have never visited the property, and certainly never made any improvements to it... Seriously, isn't it about time someone gets taken to task for frivolous stupidity? Jayme Lynn Blaschke ___ "The Dust" coming April 2001 in THE ANT-MEN OF TIBET, AND OTHER STORIES from Big Engine http://www.bigengine.co.uk/index.htm Blaschke Home Realm http://www.vvm.com/~caius (u are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com/europa/
