Re: [EVDL] custom battery
Thanks for responding. Yep. about 1 min discharge - load can vary a bit. I can use pretty much any voltage, but the lower the voltage, the higher the current and I'll need huge cables and disconnects. The higher the voltage, the more cells and cell monitors I need, plus need for higher voltage components. Cost goes up. I could use an inverter, but I still have the disconnect problem. Let's say I paralleled groups of cells so that I have about 11V. Then I'd have about 600A. That's huge. Or 22V, 300A, still huge. Can I get a disconnect for that ? Peri -- Original Message -- From: "jkenny23 via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "jkenny23" Sent: 18-Apr-20 6:06:08 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] custom battery You got me stumped. What application do you need only 85WH at 6.6kW for? That's a discharge period of 46 seconds if I have my math right... Do you truly need 240VDC for this application also? What about using the first stage of a 6.6kW 240VAC inverter, which would produce a high voltage, high power DC rail from a much safer/more manageable battery voltage (e.g. 24 or 48V), though there will be a size and efficiency impact by adding this. I think it would easily offset the complexity in BMS and charger to manage a 240VDC battery pack though. The question of cycle life is interesting.. I could try some experiments around this now with my high power cycle tester. -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] custom battery
You got me stumped. What application do you need only 85WH at 6.6kW for? That's a discharge period of 46 seconds if I have my math right... Do you truly need 240VDC for this application also? What about using the first stage of a 6.6kW 240VAC inverter, which would produce a high voltage, high power DC rail from a much safer/more manageable battery voltage (e.g. 24 or 48V), though there will be a size and efficiency impact by adding this. I think it would easily offset the complexity in BMS and charger to manage a 240VDC battery pack though. The question of cycle life is interesting.. I could try some experiments around this now with my high power cycle tester. -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Are these A123 batteries a wise purchase?
Lawrence, i have a bunch of these cells that i want to let go, make me an offer. 90+ cells total, most still in a 12p8s battery enclosure, can send pics, i harvested about 10 cells from it, which i still have as well. Can send pics. Cor On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 7:14 AM Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > > https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ele/d/hayward-a-battery-cells-33v-2500-mah/7098505376.html > > Are these batteries a wise purchase? I am building it for a 40 amp 72v > controller. This would be my first lithium build. I think I could bet by > with one string of 21 but would 2 or three strings be wiser? I don't need > the range just hill climbing. Since the batteries can put out 50 amps > continous why spend more money unless the pack would last longer or be more > durable. Just brainstorming here. What BMS etc.? Thanks Lawrence > Rhodes...should I make a spot welder? Doesn't seem too hard. > > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200418/8def7e56/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Are these A123 batteries a wise purchase?
My comments were really only in the context of EV application. The most knowledgeable people in a particular tech space are usually also the ones that have the most to gain. Its a common problem. I had a job where a new-ish product was being made that did not fit the ASTM standards for the application. Of course the people on that committee had no interest in supporting a different, not necessarily better competitor. My sense is that had the product actually been noticeably better there would have been even lower viscosity in the standard adjusting process. There needs to be a customer group pushing ahead. That means they have to read the papers, make the contacts with the doers, and develop a fuller understanding of the arising technologies and the spectrum of current cell technologies. Protectiion of IP always gets in the way of doing this stull proactively. On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 3:11 PM Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Michael Ross via EV wrote: > > 1C huh? That is not stressful at all and only a truly sh#t cell would > > have much trouble with that. > > Ah, but that is heavily dependent on the kind of cell you are testing. > There are many types of cells for which a 1C rate is a relatively fast > discharge. > > Also, 1C is a pretty reasonable rate for a lot of applications; things > that you want to work for about an hour on a charge. Even some EVs are > close to this; a golf cart or EV with a range under 100 miles discharges > its batteries at about this rate. Many things like phones and laptops > have even lower discharge rates. > > We need standards, so there are at least *some* benchmarks to use as a > basis to compare claims. Without them, all we have are manufacturer's > claims, which are mostly invented by Marketing. > > > You said: "You need some test that is uniform for all manufacturers." > > > > I must disagree. This is the thinking that has us many decades along the > > way with no good way to compare battery cells. > > On the contrary. We *have* had standard comparison tests for batteries > for many decades. They are well established for most types of > batteries... except lithium. It's the "new kid on the block", and so > far, the manufacturers haven't seen fit to play by the rules. > > > The problem is you can't really compare batteries based on some simple > > criteria. If you dig into the Dalhousie research, you can see that the > more > > complete and useful picture has a lot of detail. Medtronic and Tesla are > > two for the larger contributors to proprietary research. Both wanted to > do > > a lot more than simply compete with existing tech. > > Of course! That's always been true. Anyone who really cares about > battery performance will do their own testing, tailored to their > specific requirements. And they won't share that data with competitors! > > But we still need standard testing for "the rest of us". Individuals and > small manufacturers need *some* way to compare cells, and pick the ones > that are at least reasonable for their applications. > > > I think maybe the testing protocols should be developed with a lot less > > input from the manufacturers. Fox guarding the henhouse and all that. > > Yes. In general, earlier battery standard tests were devised by people > like BCI (Battery Council International). It was a consortium funded by > battery *users*, to combat the rampant deception in battery manufacturer > specifications. > > Lee Hart > -- > Whether we or our politicians know it or not, Nature is party to all > our deals and decisions, and she has more votes, a longer memory, > and a sterner sense of justice than we do. -- Wendell Berry > -- > Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 901-2805 Cell and Text (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Tablet, Google Phone and Text -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200418/7fb7af9e/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Are these A123 batteries a wise purchase?
Michael Ross via EV wrote: 1C huh? That is not stressful at all and only a truly sh#t cell would have much trouble with that. Ah, but that is heavily dependent on the kind of cell you are testing. There are many types of cells for which a 1C rate is a relatively fast discharge. Also, 1C is a pretty reasonable rate for a lot of applications; things that you want to work for about an hour on a charge. Even some EVs are close to this; a golf cart or EV with a range under 100 miles discharges its batteries at about this rate. Many things like phones and laptops have even lower discharge rates. We need standards, so there are at least *some* benchmarks to use as a basis to compare claims. Without them, all we have are manufacturer's claims, which are mostly invented by Marketing. You said: "You need some test that is uniform for all manufacturers." I must disagree. This is the thinking that has us many decades along the way with no good way to compare battery cells. On the contrary. We *have* had standard comparison tests for batteries for many decades. They are well established for most types of batteries... except lithium. It's the "new kid on the block", and so far, the manufacturers haven't seen fit to play by the rules. The problem is you can't really compare batteries based on some simple criteria. If you dig into the Dalhousie research, you can see that the more complete and useful picture has a lot of detail. Medtronic and Tesla are two for the larger contributors to proprietary research. Both wanted to do a lot more than simply compete with existing tech. Of course! That's always been true. Anyone who really cares about battery performance will do their own testing, tailored to their specific requirements. And they won't share that data with competitors! But we still need standard testing for "the rest of us". Individuals and small manufacturers need *some* way to compare cells, and pick the ones that are at least reasonable for their applications. I think maybe the testing protocols should be developed with a lot less input from the manufacturers. Fox guarding the henhouse and all that. Yes. In general, earlier battery standard tests were devised by people like BCI (Battery Council International). It was a consortium funded by battery *users*, to combat the rampant deception in battery manufacturer specifications. Lee Hart -- Whether we or our politicians know it or not, Nature is party to all our deals and decisions, and she has more votes, a longer memory, and a sterner sense of justice than we do. -- Wendell Berry -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 2 EV driveway> how to charge both
I only charge once a week so it’s never been an issue. I have 3 EVs.
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> Apr. 13th 2020 ... orders are getting more consumers to consider buying an
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[EVDL] A Brief History of Electric Cars
There's a segment on Cedric and his fully enclosed FF. Not too bad, just ignore the bullshit about Aluminium Air batteries https://youtu.be/gE1neFrGcMs -- Paul Compton www.morini-mania.co.uk www.paulcompton.co.uk (YouTube channel) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Solar EV-cover instead of PVs mounted on the EV (v)
https://cleantechnica.com/2020/04/06/thin-film-solar-car-cover-can-recharge-your-ev-while-it-is-parked/
Thin-Film Solar Car Cover Can Recharge Your EV While It Is Parked
April 6th, 2020 ... There is a lot of interest in adding solar panels to
electric cars to extend their range but Armor en.asca.com is the first to
fit them to a cover for a car instead of to the car itself ...
https://youtu.be/nNOlNx5x9EE
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https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1127720_put-the-ev-in-the-garage-solar-driveways-could-power-entire-households
Put the EV in the garage: Solar driveways could power entire households
April 7, 2020 ... Hungary-based company ... solar driveways ...
platio.cc claims to be the first company to embed solar tiles in a
residential driveway. A 20-square-meter (215-square-foot) area of these
tiles can handle the yearly energy demands of an average household,
according to the company ...
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[EVDL] Taycan Turbo S has more pep than Porsche claims (v)
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a32054744/taycan-turbo-s-top-speed-autobahn-video/
Watch the Taycan Turbo S Blow Past Its Manufacturer-Quoted Top Speed on the
Autobahn
Apr 12, 2020 Taycan Turbo S has a little more pep than Porsche claims.
Porsche says its new all-electric Taycan Turbo S has a top speed of 162 mph
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https://en.brinkwire.com/canada/the-weird-thing-about-epa-car-testing/
The weird thing about EPA car testing
April 18, 2020 ... In reality ... the EPA simply doesn’t ... do ... testing
itself ... makes the automakers ... do it ... the way most of us drive isn’t
going to ... match ... the EPA envisages driving ... borne out with recent
EV tests: Porsche ... expecting its Taycan ... to get ... 270 miles on a
charge, but the EPA rated it at just over 200 miles ...
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[EVDL] Tesla Y vs 3> a 'soil-your-pants' casting comparison moment
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-y-vs-model-3-casting-review-video/
Model Y vs Model 3 casting comparison shows that legacy auto's
'soil-your-pants' moment is at hand
April 12, 2020 ... the electric car maker appears to have done its homework
before it released its newest vehicle. One could even argue that Tesla
released the Model Y ...
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Tesla update: Reverse Summon for auto parking would be released in 2020,
Elon Musk says
April 18, 2020 Another big surprise from last year was the unveiling of
Tesla's first electric pickup truck that they officially call the
Cybertruck. Its polarizing design has ...
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[EVDL] Volvo Polestar 10Wheel Shipping(semi) e-truck
https://www.trendhunter.com/trends/polestar-ontour
The Conceptual Polestar 'OnTour' Has a 10-Wheel Design
April 9, 2020 Modular Electric Shipping Vehicles
The shipping industry is set to undergo a number of changes in the coming
years as electric transportation solutions become ...
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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/world/2020/04/17/helsinki-violinist-delivers-food-by-bike-as-city-fights-coronavirus
Helsinki violinist delivers food by bike as city fights coronavirus
17 Apr 2020 ... he's using an electric trike to deliver food to the Finnish
capital's elderly residents ... delivery is free ... He volunteered for a
scheme that allows the city to redirect employees, mostly from its cultural
and sports services, to the Helsinki Help service for the elderly ...
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[EVDL] (2022) Hyundai Creta EV Rendered
https://gaadiwaadi.com/2020-hyundai-creta-electric-rendered-could-launch-in-2022/
2020 Hyundai Creta Electric Rendered, Could Launch In 2022
April 9, 2020 ... it makes brilliant sense for Hyundai Motor India Ltd to
come up with an electric car positioned below the Kona EV price ...
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https://www.motoroids.com/news/tata-nexon-ev-outsells-the-hyundai-kona-ev-and-mg-zs-ev/
Tata Nexon EV Outsells The Hyundai Kona EV And MG ZS EV
April 17, 2020 ... stricter emission norms have forced auto manufacturers to
focus on electric vehicles ... Tata Nexon EV has been the most accessible
electric car in India ...
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[EVDL] (vw-pr) 20,000 e-up! electric car orders
https://electrek.co/2020/03/31/vw-e-up-electric-car-orders-demand/
VW received 20,000 e-up! electric car orders, rivaling gas-powered version
Mar. 31st 2020 ... electric car orders in Germany over the past 3 months –
rivaling the demand for its gas-powered version ... The e-up! is the
electric version of the up! model series and now VW says that every other
customer buying an up! model series vehicle in Germany is ordering the
electric one ...
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https://www.marketscreener.com/VOLKSWAGEN-AG-436737/news/Volkswagen-VW-to-Reopen-Europe-Plants-With-List-of-New-Safety-Rules-30430857/
Volkswagen : VW to Reopen Europe Plants With List of New Safety Rules
04/18/2020 ... BERLIN -- Volkswagen AG will restart car plants across Europe
next week, offering a pandemic-era blueprint for other global manufacturers
that will alter workers' daily lives and, at least temporarily, relegate
productivity to the back seat ... Volkswagen will institute buffer periods
between changing shifts to allow one group of workers to leave before the
next shift comes in, to minimize interactions. Workers will enter in a
single file, keeping a distance of 6 feet between each other ...
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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20200420
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Lingbao-Box-cn-EV-MINI-Matiz-looks-tp4697031.html
EVLN: Lingbao Box .cn EV> MINI,Matiz looks
Lingbao Box Is A New Small EV That Looks Like The Offspring Of A MINI And A
Matiz
April 7, 2020 ... Lingbao ... developed a small four-door electric hatchback
that looks like the offspring of a Mini and a Daewoo Matiz. It also closely
resembles the Honda N-One ...
https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/webp/2020/04/Lingbao-Box-China-1-1-1024x555.webp
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EVLN: Leaf e+ EV is family-friendly
We put the new Nissan Leaf e+ to the test - is it family
friendly?
Could your next car be electric? Last month, we challenged Lucy Tobin to
swap her usual car for the new Nissan Leaf e+ ...
https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/03/25/14/lucytobin.jpg
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EV Infrastructure builds into California's Public Spaces
Leaf crowned Britain's most iconic EV
Tesla Giga .de world-class paint shop w/ new color ‘layers’
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Tesla-Plaid-performance-Cyber-e-truck-w-modified-body-tp4697030.html
Tesla 'Plaid' performance Cyber e-truck w/ modified body
Tesla ‘Plaid’ Cybertruck electric pickup is Elon Musk’s new favorite Tesla
vehicle
Apr. 9th 2020 ... Musk hyped a Tesla ‘Plaid Cybetruck’ on Twitter ...
confirmed that a tri-motor version of the electric pickup truck, which is a
feature of the ‘Plaid’ Tesla ... Plaid version is also expected to feature
other performance components and a modified body ...
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[EVDL] EVLN: Leaf e+ EV is family-friendly
https://www.standard.co.uk/futurelondon/cleanair/nissan-leaf-e-electric-car-review-a4397491.html
We put the new Nissan Leaf e+ to the test - is it family
friendly?
Could your next car be electric? Last month, we challenged Lucy Tobin to
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https://www.drivingelectric.com/electric-car-survey
Nissan Leaf crowned Britain's most iconic electric car
17 Apr 2020 DrivingElectric survey has revealed the Nissan Leaf is
officially the most recognisable electric car on sale ...
https://cdn.drivingelectric.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_desktop/public/2019-06/21-kona-electric-vs-leaf.jpg
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[EVDL] EVLN: Lingbao Box .cn EV> MINI,Matiz looks
https://www.carscoops.com/2020/04/lingbao-box-is-a-new-small-ev-that-looks-like-the-offspring-of-a-mini-and-a-matiz/
Lingbao Box Is A New Small EV That Looks Like The Offspring Of A MINI And A
Matiz
April 7, 2020 ... Lingbao ... developed a small four-door electric hatchback
that looks like the offspring of a Mini and a Daewoo Matiz. It also closely
resembles the Honda N-One ...
https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/webp/2020/04/Lingbao-Box-China-1-1-1024x555.webp
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https://www.govtech.com/fs/infrastructure/EV-Infrastructure-Charges-into-Californias-Public-Spaces.html
EV Infrastructure Charges into California's Public Spaces
April 14, 2020 Three California cities have explored locating chargers for
electric vehicles in the public right of way. The changes promise to help
normalize zero-emissions vehicles across the state. Installing electric
vehicle charging curbside may be an expensive and complicated process, but
more cities are exploring these infrastructure projects to keep ...
https://media2.govtech.com/images/940*705/Sacramento+EV+Charging+Plaza.jpg
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[EVDL] Tesla 'Plaid' performance Cyber e-truck w/ modified body
https://electrek.co/2020/04/09/tesla-plaid-cybertruck-electric-pickup-elon-musk-favorite/
Tesla ‘Plaid’ Cybertruck electric pickup is Elon Musk’s new favorite Tesla
vehicle
Apr. 9th 2020 ... Musk hyped a Tesla ‘Plaid Cybetruck’ on Twitter ...
confirmed that a tri-motor version of the electric pickup truck, which is a
feature of the ‘Plaid’ Tesla ... Plaid version is also expected to feature
other performance components and a modified body ...
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1248134534031388673
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https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-giga-berlin-paint-shop-new-colors/
Tesla Giga Berlin is getting a world-class paint shop, new color ‘layers’ to
come
had received several applications from the electric carmaker. One of these
described a revamp of the factory’s paint facility ...
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[EVDL] A perfect storm 4negative electricity prices> get paid2 charge
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/utilities-pay-customers-to-take-power-after-virus-guts-demand-1.1422243
Utilities Pay Customers to Take Power After Virus Guts Demand
Apr 16, 2020 In Britain, Octopus Energy Ltd. has an electricity tariff that
allows consumers to take advantage of negative prices and get paid to charge
electric vehicles or use smart appliances. Prices below zero mean that
generators will have to pay users to take power off the grid ...
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/polopoly_fs/1.1422244.1587025509!/fileimage/httpImage/image.png_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/bc-utilities-pay-customers-to-take-power-after-virus-guts-demand.png
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[EVDL] 2 EV driveway> how to charge both
https://electrek.co/2020/04/13/whats-the-ultimate-two-ev-driveway-and-how-to-charge-both-see-a-gallery-of-choices/
What’s the ultimate two-EV driveway and how to charge both? See a gallery of
choices
Apr. 13th 2020 ... orders are getting more consumers to consider buying an
electric car ... one charger with a long cord allows the owners to easily
swap them out. If both are fully charged, I wonder how they decide which one
to take ...
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[EVDL] 2 EV driveway> how to charge both
https://electrek.co/2020/04/13/whats-the-ultimate-two-ev-driveway-and-how-to-charge-both-see-a-gallery-of-choices/
What’s the ultimate two-EV driveway and how to charge both? See a gallery of
choices
Apr. 13th 2020 ... orders are getting more consumers to consider buying an
electric car ... one charger with a long cord allows the owners to easily
swap them out. If both are fully charged, I wonder how they decide which one
to take ...
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