RE: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Without knowing the science to honest, but it seems to me that direction is 
important in our relationship to the universe and time, right direction at the 
right speed, slows down our time and we can just wait for the universe to pass 
till gets to the point where we  want to go. Of course that science or science  
fiction,in  what could be our life time or less would be light years to 
everybody else.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

With the present makeup of human beings, it is impossible to travel at the 
speed of light.  But scientists theoretically know time slows down drastically 
at the speed of light.  So, it would seem instantaneous for someone to travel 
half a galaxy away to another planet.  In a sense we can transcend our 
limitations by knowing what it would be like if humans were not made of matter.
 

 This makes me wonder what did Vyasa, the writer of Srimad Bhagavatam, know 
when he wrote some of the stories in the book.  Did he really know that Narada 
could travel to other worlds in an instant?  How did he know that the 
"prajapatis", or cosmic executives, spread humankind throughout the universe.  
So, if there are humans throughout the universe, where are they?  How come no 
ETs have contacted us or visited us?
 

 If we don't know the answer, is it because our mental capacities are 
drastically limited during the Kali Yuga that we can't understand humans from 
Satya Yuga, like Vyasa or Patanjali who wrote their books to make us understand.
 

 
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 Does it help to talk about a personal experience , maybe one can talk about 
experience itself, I thought Biblical  "Job " gives a good account ,but its 
popularly known as an account of great suffering, not a Throne of God 
experience. Personally i believe we can transcend time in a space ship, 
therefore travel great distances in what would seem like faster than the speed 
of light.   Job had the Throne of God experience because he care deeply 
about his world.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Does it help to talk about a personal experience , maybe one can talk about 
experience itself, I thought Biblical  "Job " gives a good account ,but its 
popularly known as an account of great suffering, not a Throne of God 
experience. Personally i believe we can transcend time in a space ship, 
therefore travel great distances in what would seem like faster than the speed 
of light.   Job had the Throne of God experience because he care deeply 
about his world.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Knowing the infinity of the universe, humans could never visit physically all 
of the galaxies around us.  Plus we're limited by the speed of light.  
Ultimately, humans will have to rely on their visions (including remote 
sensing/viewing) to understand and verify the world.  I don't believe any 
advanced AI can do this based on our present technology. 

 But I still value the ideas presented by San Juan de la Cruz regarding "the 
dark night of the soul".  In my opinion, he was rephrasing the concepts of 
transcendental consciousness, cosmic consciousness and God consciousness from 
the vedic texts.
 

 Regarding Ezekiel and other Hebrew visionaries including the Gospels, they 
were conveying something in words that signify spiritual ideas.  For example, 
Ezekiel appeared to be describing a UFO in the Old Testament, but the reader 
needs to understand the symbolisms steeped in the Hebrew tradition and culture.

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 IMO, about 10% of the Batgap people are very impressive, perhaps led by Harri 
Aalto. (looking forward to his second book).  I don't see the point in making a 
claim for Awakening but then no following through with something to "show" for 
it.  After all, there are an infinite number of things to consider before 
Awakening, but only ONE thing to consider at the transition (That everything's 
Pure Consciousness - "The World is Brahman, Brahman is the World"), but where 
is the revelation as to the infinite number of things to accomplish after the 
transition. Is it sufficient for people to go around saying, "I'm Awakened, I'm 
Awakened, I'm Awakened.".
 

 In addition to the visions of Shiva, I'd like to hear somebody who has had a 
"Throne of God" experience, as mentioned by the Kaballists. (as mentioned by 
Ezekiel in the Hebrew Scriptures).
 How about somebody like Kirpal Singh and others in the Sant Mat Tradtiion who 
are capable of traveling out of their bodies at will?
 At the very miniimum level of accomplishment, some people believe that there 
are structures made by Intelligent Agents on the Moon and Mars.  I challenge 
ANY of the Batgappers to astral travel to the Moon and Mars, then give a full 
report on whether their are, or are not such structures.
 Apart from such a simple task from supposedly Enlightened people, NO, I do not 
want to continually hear about how you're Awakened and I'm not buying your 
books.
 
 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

IMO, about 10% of the Batgap people are very impressive, perhaps led by Harri 
Aalto. (looking forward to his second book).  I don't see the point in making a 
claim for Awakening but then no following through with something to "show" for 
it.  After all, there are an infinite number of things to consider before 
Awakening, but only ONE thing to consider at the transition (That everything's 
Pure Consciousness - "The World is Brahman, Brahman is the World"), but where 
is the revelation as to the infinite number of things to accomplish after the 
transition. Is it sufficient for people to go around saying, "I'm Awakened, I'm 
Awakened, I'm Awakened.".
 

 In addition to the visions of Shiva, I'd like to hear somebody who has had a 
"Throne of God" experience, as mentioned by the Kaballists. (as mentioned by 
Ezekiel in the Hebrew Scriptures).
 How about somebody like Kirpal Singh and others in the Sant Mat Tradtiion who 
are capable of traveling out of their bodies at will?
 At the very miniimum level of accomplishment, some people believe that there 
are structures made by Intelligent Agents on the Moon and Mars.  I challenge 
ANY of the Batgappers to astral travel to the Moon and Mars, then give a full 
report on whether their are, or are not such structures.
 Apart from such a simple task from supposedly Enlightened people, NO, I do not 
want to continually hear about how you're Awakened and I'm not buying your 
books.
 
 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 1:02 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

>Hey, Rick

>I thought the latest interview with Jude Currivan on BatGap was very 
>interesting.  Meeting those archetypes, which she discussed, must be 
>mysterious.  The current guru on UTube to discuss this is Dr. Pillai, who's 
>mentioned about archetypes from ancient Egypt.

>Can you find someone who had visions of Shiva or Zeus?

Not sure I could. Maybe Harri Aalto, whom I’ve interviewed.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 



 Hey, Rick
 

 I thought the latest interview with Jude Currivan on BatGap was very 
interesting.  Meeting those archetypes, which she discussed, must be 
mysterious.  The current guru on UTube to discuss this is Dr. Pillai, who's 
mentioned about archetypes from ancient Egypt.
 

 Can you find someone who had visions of Shiva or Zeus?
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@...> wrote :

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 3:26 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?
  
 >  That's a good point, but Kurzweil probably won't like it.  I believe the 
 > Christian mystic Teilhard de Chardin wrote about his Omega Man, which is his 
 > version of a human in cosmic consciousness or God-consciousness.  But can 
 > Rick Archer
 find someone who can levitate to show us that a human being has broken through 
the barrier of mediocrity?  :)  
 I haven’t been looking for one, but I but I think there are lots of other 
examples of exceptionalism.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thx, about a dozen of the Batgappers have extraordinary psychic abilities, 
impressive in my book.  As to the rest, most are boring Neo-Advaitins having 
only one message: everything is pure Consciousness. That's only one statement 
of fact, while what comes after (or before) that Realization taking place only 
once, is an Infinity of possibilities including exploration of other galaxies 
and universes. 
 As a next step on the evolutionary ladder, try shifting the focus from "Pure 
Consciousness" to Neg-Entropy, i.e. as an individual Soul, consider two 
choices: 1. Dissolving completely into Nothingness with no more further 
relative bodies. 2. Infinite continuum of evolution viewing the "Soul" (subtle 
body) as an active Agent for doing good in the world for countless eons to 
come, perhaps even forever.  
 That's the choice:
 1. No existence, or
 2  Eternal relative existence using one or more Subtle bodies.
 The notion of Lesh Avidya or whatever they call it (a remnant of ignorance 
needed to maintain a celestial relative existence), is completely bogus.  The 
Absolute can not be more or less 100% Absolute, whether there's a body there or 
not. Sustaining a body is not dependent on "Ignorance". Ramana Maharshi once 
stated that he had 20 subtle bodies operating on different planes of existence, 
simultaneously
 As a first step using the Neg-Entropic model, consider the Siddhi of out of 
body travel to anyplace in the multiverse.  That's the goal of Gurus in the 
Sant Mat Tradition, like Kirpal Singh.
 

 

  

RE: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 3:26 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

>  That's a good point, but Kurzweil probably won't like it.  I believe the 
> Christian mystic Teilhard de Chardin wrote about his Omega Man, which is his 
> version of a human in cosmic consciousness or God-consciousness.  But can 
> Rick Archer find someone who can levitate to show us that a human being has 
> broken through the barrier of mediocrity?  :)

I haven’t been looking for one, but I but I think there are lots of other 
examples of exceptionalism.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 


That's a good point, but Kurzweil probably won't like it.  I believe the 
Christian mystic Teilhard de Chardin wrote about his Omega Man, which is his 
version of a human in cosmic consciousness or God-consciousness.  But can Rick 
Archer find someone who can levitate to show us that a human being has broken 
through the barrier of mediocrity?  :)
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Heh!  What have yogis been doing for centuries?  These idiots who fancy 
themselves scientists are going about brain improvement the wrong way.  I have 
this vision of a "Twilight Zone" episode that takes place in the future where 
Ray Kurzweil has managed to merge himself with a machine and is begging people 
to turn the machine off because he finally is tired of living.  Of course 
everyone is ignoring him.
 
 On 07/05/2017 08:34 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   This is the question that propels adherents of the transhumanist movement.  
But at the fundamental level, the human brain appears capable of transcending 
itself to unite with the absolute.  So, why is AI, nanotechnology and other 
scientific gadgets necessary to improve the human brain?  What do you think?

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Heh!  What have yogis been doing for centuries?  These idiots who fancy 
themselves scientists are going about brain improvement the wrong way.  
I have this vision of a "Twilight Zone" episode that takes place in the 
future where Ray Kurzweil has managed to merge himself with a machine 
and is begging people to turn the machine off because he finally is 
tired of living.  Of course everyone is ignoring him.


On 07/05/2017 08:34 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


This is the question that propels adherents of the transhumanist 
movement.  But at the fundamental level, the human brain appears 
capable of transcending itself to unite with the absolute.  So, why is 
AI, nanotechnology and other scientific gadgets necessary to improve 
the human brain?  What do you think?

[FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

This is the question that propels adherents of the transhumanist movement.  But 
at the fundamental level, the human brain appears capable of transcending 
itself to unite with the absolute.  So, why is AI, nanotechnology and other 
scientific gadgets necessary to improve the human brain?  What do you think?