Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well, if you think it's a hop, skip and a jump under other *paths* and 
masters,.. knock yourself out.I'm more inclined to believe that individuals 
*grow* into their paths, regardless of what they may be.That *growth* aspect 
involves time and maturity along the way.


  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 6:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
   
 Read it and also  Shiva Puranas, Srimad Bhagavatam, etc. etc. etc.  With 
TM you'll hit a brick wall but other paths have more to offer.
 
 On 05/11/2016 03:10 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
    You might try reading the Gita again.
  
 
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
  
      It doesn't take many lifetimes, it takes a proper teacher who is 
qualified to teach it: an  acharya.  That said, some here may have been 
practicing sadhana for many lifetimes anyway.
 
 On 05/11/2016 09:04 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
   
     It may be *yoga lite*, but I doubt many westerners are  really ready for 
the *yoga heavy*. Maharishi was offering something for the masses. It  is as 
effective as you are willing to make it. One of the last instructions in the 
initial course, in order to gain CC is, *don't do anything  you know is wrong*. 
Most people can't even *begin* to live up to that instruction.
  I was into the 5-8 year plan myself in the beginning but eventually  realized 
that was just a hook in the jaw to reel you in, as are the rest of the 
*programs*. Real yoga requires many births with  steady progress along the way. 
Best to learn to walk before you try running,  patience Grasshopper!  There is 
a story in one of the Upanishads in which a  shishya  asks his master how much 
longer to gain enlightenment.The master  said "see the leaves of this great 
tree that we sit under? One life time for every leaf." The shishya, seeing tens 
of thousands of  leaves, was elated that at last, the end to the endless cycle 
of birth and death was in view.   
  Krishna said "only after many lives of this practice does one  come to Me" Of 
course M had to weasel his way around that by saying it meant after many 
experiences of transcending, not births. He  admitted that it was a verse that 
discouraged people from even trying.The duty of a  master is to encourage the 
disciple. That has been M's  goal all along. The carrot and the stick. Let them 
think enlightenment is just  around the corner. And maybe it is for a person or 
two.
  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
  
      And at the end of the day, TM is still just  "yoga lite."  Folks need 
to try the real  stuff.  ;-) 
 
 On 05/11/2016 05:14 AM, Mike  Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
   
     I have to agree here. Nobody, at least on  this forum, knows everything 
Guru Dev taught. He was  said to be a master of all yogas.I feel  pretty 
confident that  even Maharishi would admit that he didn't  know everything Guru 
Dev knew. BTW, it's said that Maharishi  gave entirely different mantras to 
Indians based on their  family deity, at least at one time.
   
 
 From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:29  PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group  chanting
  
    You are merely speculating  about a topic you don't know anything about 
- without sufficient  information at hand. 
 
 I received a mantra with  omkara from SSRS in 1998. I asked a  Sankhya-Yoga 
scholar (a  former TM teacher) about it and he  pointed out that it was a  
traditional polysyllabic maha-mantra  and was perfectly acceptable in the view 
of the  Shankaracharya tradition (sampradaya). 
 

  

 
 
  

 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

If you do not make an effort to know truth, to perceive it beneath the veils 
that hide it, you will not discover your own real nature and will therefore 
remain at the mercy of outside forces of “circumstances.” In Meditation behold 
the start of divine wisdom, that its rays disclose the truth ever within 
yourself. -Paramahansa Yogananda
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Cultivating Spirituality in Collective Meditation..
 

 “If therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light” 
(Matthew 6:22).

 

 Long before the TM movement ever came to Iowa there came a preceding movement 
of transcendentalism.
 This was a recognized and practiced group by its own long line in history, 
practiced in the cultivation of transcendent spirituality by group meditation.
 

 During the time of the Iowa 1830's and 1840's pioneer settlement there came 
old Quakers as a peculiar spiritual people who were then disciplined in 
cultivating spiritual experience by the practice of silent meditation in 
facilitated groups or collective meditation as the Quaker “Meeting for 
Worship”.  
 

 Some thousands of Quakers came to Iowa in the early settlement period. Across 
the Iowa landscape 'group meditation' arrived in the Quaker settlement of 
frontier Iowa then with the laying out and building of their Quaker Meeting 
Houses to facilitate their silent group meditation that was the common Quaker 
silent practice of a cultivated Quietism. 
 

  As a larger spiritual regeneration movement coming to Iowa in that settlement 
period this was in a time just prior to when an older Society of Friends as a 
spiritual practice group was overtaken and overthrown by evangelical 'believer' 
ideology that came along in America during the 19th Century. That takedown in 
form is its own recurring story as 'the loss of spiritual Knowledge' in time. 
In sequence of time the spiritual Quakers subsequently tended to move further 
on to the West on to other places supporting their group cultivation of 
transcendent spirituality.  ..Birds of a feather flock together in diaspora. 
 

 However, there is a map of the Quaker group meditations planted in Iowa during 
the frontier period of time. This map does not represent the whole of Quaker 
Meeting Houses as the group who had overtaken the Society of Friends Iowa 
Yearly Meeting later in the 19th Century was not recognizing on their drawn map 
some of the old meetings in the State who had continued on separately with the 
original silent meditating practice of the old Quaker spiritual practice as 
heritage going way back. 
 

 The map is noteworthy because it indicates the extent of what was the old 
Society of Friends at an earlier time. Evidently what we see presently in 
present day Iowa as the group practice of Quietism in a cultivating 
transcendental meditation is not a recent phenomena of spiritual practice in 
Iowa.
 

 Map: 
  
http://www.icelandichorse.info/salemfugitiveslaves/friendsmeetingsiowa1870.jpg 
http://www.icelandichorse.info/salemfugitiveslaves/friendsmeetingsiowa1870.jpg
 

 The note about the map made on
 http://www.icelandichorse.info/salemfugitiveslaves.html 
http://www.icelandichorse.info/salemfugitiveslaves.html
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Long before Swami Vivkananda, Yogananda and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi came along 
to the West came others as teaching transcendentalists, preceding them in a 
sequence. In Europe there was a long lineage of the equivalent in European 
transcendentalist spiritual satsanga and ashram-like spiritual practice 
communities coming out of what was then called Quietism in spiritual practice.
 

 An earlier post on FairfieldLife copied in the European lineage. In the 
historical stories a lot of those groups came in settlement to America fleeing 
persecution of the formal beliefs of religious ideologies. Transcendentalism as 
a spiritual teaching and practice is a common story in the settlement of 
America. It could seem that transcendentalism as it has come along is very 
American. See FFL post# 385441
 

 385441RE: In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism 

 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/385441 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/385441
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On December 31, 1957, celebrating the Conference of Spiritual Luminaries of 
India, Maharishi inaugurated the Spiritual Regeneration Movement in Madras, 
India, to spiritually regenerate the world.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yep, in a line of transcendentalists Elias Hicks carried the banner in satsang 
a generation before Emerson.   In their day actually they were widely heard and 
followed penetrating the contemporary thought.  Considering the size and 
population of America then they were in about as far as Maharishi penetrated 
culture with transcendentalism in the 20th Century.   

[FairfieldLife] Do Ygayas work? Well see.

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU28uqWeBGs

  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The War on Drugs

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

And, according to deeper science now it is known that it should be prudent that 
kids and young people under the age of 25 not get a hold to pot for ingesting 
in any way. By the science it could proly be important public health policy to 
help modify people's behavior generally around letting the young smoke or 
ingest pot with fines levied or penitentiary time towards those who could let 
children under the age of 25 have access to pot. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 The TMO could make a name for itself in random drug testing people before they 
learn to meditate.
 


 

S3 writes:  Thanks. Your experience sounds like what I half expected. I was 
always too fearful to give it a try in case it turned unpleasant! 

 I recall when I was initiated the teacher asked me if I'd used drugs during 
the previous 15 days. I said not - as indeed I hadn't - but he was pretty 
dubious as I was going through a "hippy" stage at the time and looked like one 
of the usual suspects . . .  
 

 Bhang is a common shortcut to higher states in India. I by no means pooh-pooh 
the alleged connection between drugs and "expanded consciousness" but getting 
there under your own steam is always more convincing.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 sure have...long ago. I would say a tiny bit feels great but more than a 
little does not work, I think it is probably true that the coherence effect 
gets lost, the brain gets very disordered on more than a bit. 
would like to know someones experience with the flying sutra and weed as I have 
abstained for a long time. as per the Guru's wishes..


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Apparently at a time earlier on in teaching meditation Maharishi found the 
more general common denominator that seemed to get in the way of meditation and 
spiritual experience was evidently in fact smoking pot. He taught a lot of 
people to meditate and canvased and experimented with various periods of people 
abstaining from using rec drugs prior to learning. 15 days was more surefire 
compared to shorter periods. 
  
 The science now seems to be more with that too. Given how pot potency has been 
so incredibly increased by systematic plant breeding and hybridizing, maybe the 
period of abstinence should be longer. More science is likely needed.  
Cannabinoids evidently do linger in the system.  But at a minimum by experience 
15 days abstaining before learning how to meditate seems to be an effective 
number.
 -JaiGuruYou 
 

  Did anyone on FFL ever try the experiment of having a TM session after 
smoking some weed? The effect might have been interesting . . . 
 
sure have...long ago. I would say a tiny bi(t) feels great but more than a 
little does not work, I think it is probably true that the coherence effect 
gets lost, the brain gets very disordered on more than a bit. 
would like to know someones experience with the flying sutra and weed as I have 
abstained for a long time. as per the Guru's wishes..


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Donovan came to his Initiation high but still everything turned out ok.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 If now with the science it is known and well enough established fact that 
cannabinoids stay in the system for many days once smoked or ingested then it 
was some brilliant process of deduction that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi figured this 
out in coming up with the 15-day ‘non-prescription’ drug abstention requirement 
prior to folks learning to meditate based on people’s experience with learning 
to meditate, ‘back in the day’. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 I believe a similar study from India found that long-term pot smokers end up 
walking around naked, covered in ashes. A Vedic voice of puritanical 
righteousness really needs to smack those stoners upside the head with some 
healthy fear of Lord Shiva.
 

 I read another study that asked that universally-pondered question: What came 
first, the chicken or the egg? Are those who walk around with a doob 
perpetually hanging out of their mouths made lazy (and consequently poor) as a 
result of this or are those prone to shiftlessness more likely to walk around 
with a doob perpetually hanging off their lower lip? It's important quandaries 
like these that keep me up at night.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Study Finds Long-Term Pot Smokers Have More Social, Financial Problems
 People who smoke pot regularly over many years, end up in a lower social class 
than their parents, with lower-paying, less-skilled jobs. That's according to 
research published Wednesday based on a study of children in New Zealand, who 
were tracked from birth to age 38. The study participants who regularly use 
cannabis also reported more problems with debt and cash flow than those in the 
study who were dependent on alcohol. Forum discusses the findings with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Rigged?

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Bernie is predicted to win California and that's a lot of delegates.

On 05/11/2016 08:27 PM, emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Objectively speaking, she is winning the pledged delegate race (not 
including super delegates) by several hundred (1,716 to 1,433) 
according to the numbers I just checked.  Doesn't seem like she's 
losing, as of this moment.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Of course, because Billary is losing. She's not a popular candidate.  
She can only win on superdelagates which is NOT right.


On 05/10/2016 07:08 PM, emily.mae50@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:




http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/8/1524415/-The-Democratic-Primaries-are-rigged-against-Hillary-Clinton

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

So tell me how do you know that even you haven't spend many lifetimes 
pursuing enlightenment?  Just sayin' that I've known a number of folks 
who have had good experiences even with TM and experienced CC some time 
ago.  One of the problems on FFL is that people here seem to expect 
"saintly behavior" which any guru would chuckle about.  When you attain 
"CC" you will have some samskaras in play which determine your 
personality.  I've even heard Maharishi quoted on this.


Recently I watched a documentary on Netflix about Steve Jobs.  He 
believed he was enlightened and it is discussed in the documentary both 
from the perspective of Ram Dass's book "Be Here Now" where he also 
mentions what I've said above.  And from the perspective of a Buddhist 
monk who Jobs visited to ask for help.  The question was how could such 
a rash person be enlightened?


So if you think that everyone that tried TM was a spiritual "noobie" 
I've got a slightly used bridge here in the SF Bay Area to sell you. :-D


On 05/12/2016 05:01 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Well, if you think it's a hop, skip and a jump under other *paths* and 
masters,.. knock yourself out.
I'm more inclined to believe that individuals *grow* into their paths, 
regardless of what they may be.

That *growth* aspect involves time and maturity along the way.



*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 6:12 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting

Read it and also  Shiva Puranas, Srimad Bhagavatam, etc. etc. etc.  
With TM you'll hit a brick wall but other paths have more to offer.


On 05/11/2016 03:10 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:

You might try reading the Gita again.



*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
 [FairfieldLife]" 
 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:19 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting

It doesn't take many lifetimes, it takes a proper teacher who is 
qualified to teach it: an acharya.  That said, some here may have 
been practicing sadhana for many lifetimes anyway.


On 05/11/2016 09:04 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:
It may be *yoga lite*, but I doubt many westerners are really ready 
for the *yoga heavy*. Maharishi was offering something for the 
masses. It is as effective as you are willing to make it. One of the 
last instructions in the initial course, in order to gain CC is, 
*don't do anything you know is wrong*. Most people can't even 
*begin* to live up to that instruction.
I was into the 5-8 year plan myself in the beginning but eventually 
realized that was just a hook in the jaw to reel you in, as are the 
rest of the *programs*. Real yoga requires many births with steady 
progress along the way. Best to learn to walk before you try 
running, patience Grasshopper!
There is a story in one of the Upanishads in which a shishya  asks 
his master how much longer to gain enlightenment.The master said 
"see the leaves of this great tree that we sit under? One life time 
for every leaf." The shishya, seeing tens of thousands of leaves, 
was elated that at last, the end to the endless cycle of birth and 
death was in view.
Krishna said "only after many lives of this practice does one come 
to Me" Of course M had to weasel his way around that by saying it 
meant after many experiences of transcending, not births. He 
admitted that it was a verse that discouraged people from even 
trying.The duty of a master is to encourage the disciple. That has 
been M's goal all along. The carrot and the stick. Let them think 
enlightenment is just around the corner. And maybe it is for a 
person or two.


*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
 [FairfieldLife]" 
 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:25 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting

And at the end of the day, TM is still just "yoga lite." Folks need 
to try the real stuff. ;-)


On 05/11/2016 05:14 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I have to agree here. Nobody, at least on this forum, knows 
everything Guru Dev taught. He was said to be a master of all 
yogas.I feel pretty confident that even Maharishi would admit that 
he didn't know everything Guru Dev knew. BTW, it's said that 
Maharishi gave entirely different mantras to Indians based on t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Rigged?

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yep, it is.  There could be an upset but it's a long shot given the D's rule of 
proportional allocation. Clinton has been hitting most of her target numbers 
for delegates.  But, wouldn't it be fun if both the Republicans and Democrats 
actually had contested conventions? I'm all for it.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bernie is predicted to win California and that's a lot of delegates. 
 
 On 05/11/2016 08:27 PM, emily.mae50@... mailto:emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Objectively speaking, she is winning the pledged delegate race (not 
including super delegates) by several hundred (1,716 to 1,433) according to the 
numbers I just checked.  Doesn't seem like she's losing, as of this moment.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 Of course, because Billary is losing. She's not a popular candidate.  She can 
only win on superdelagates which is NOT right.
 
 On 05/10/2016 07:08 PM, emily.mae50@... mailto:emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/8/1524415/-The-Democratic-Primaries-are-rigged-against-Hillary-Clinton
 
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/8/1524415/-The-Democratic-Primaries-are-rigged-against-Hillary-Clinton
 
 
 

 
 



 
 

[FairfieldLife] The Great Filter in Space Exploration

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Any intelligent civilizations in our galaxy may have already reached the same 
barrier that humans here on earth are finding.  That is, the universe is too 
big to explore by any one intelligent species in our galaxy or the next.  We 
are all limited by time, distance and the speed of light.
 

 But like us they may have found through their consciousness that this vast 
physical gap can be overcome through the realization of the Self by the self.  
IOW, the process of enlightenment will clear away the barrier of space and time.
 

 
http://qz.com/681059/why-the-discovery-of-earth-like-planets-could-spell-doom-for-humanity/?utm_source=YPL
 
http://qz.com/681059/why-the-discovery-of-earth-like-planets-could-spell-doom-for-humanity/?utm_source=YPL
 

 

 

 

 

[FairfieldLife] Hindus pray for Trump presidency!

[he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

 
https://twitter.com/rrksingh21/status/730300935788892161/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
 
https://twitter.com/rrksingh21/status/730300935788892161/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

 

 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Filter in Space Exploration

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Here's a related article summarizing how far humanity can go in the universe.
 

 The Limits Of How Far Humanity Can Go In The Universe - Forbes 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2016/05/12/the-limits-of-how-far-humanity-can-go-in-the-universe/#4fb1bec82693
 
 
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2016/05/12/the-limits-of-how-far-humanity-can-go-in-the-universe/#4fb1bec82693
 
 
 The Limits Of How Far Humanity Can Go In The U... 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2016/05/12/the-limits-of-how-far-humanity-can-go-in-the-universe/#4fb1bec82693
 Even with a perfect understanding of science and a perfect execution of 
technologies, there are some things we'll never reach.
 
 
 
 View on www.forbes.com 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2016/05/12/the-limits-of-how-far-humanity-can-go-in-the-universe/#4fb1bec82693
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 

 

 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

What does mysticism really mean? 
  It means the way to attain knowledge. 
 It's close to philosophy, 
 except in philosophy you go horizontally 
 while in mysticism you go vertically.
 -Elie Wiesel   
 

 “If therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light” 
(Matthew 6:22).

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 If you do not make an effort to know truth, to perceive it beneath the veils 
that hide it, you will not discover your own real nature and will therefore 
remain at the mercy of outside forces of “circumstances.” In Meditation behold 
the start of divine wisdom, that its rays disclose the truth ever within 
yourself. -Paramahansa Yogananda
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Cultivating Spirituality in Collective Meditation..
 

 Long before the TM movement ever came to Iowa there came a preceding movement 
of transcendentalism.

 This was a recognized and practiced group by its own long line in history, 
practiced in the cultivation of transcendent spirituality through group 
meditation.
 

 During the time of the Iowa 1830's and 1840's pioneer settlement there came 
old Quakers as a peculiar spiritual people who were then disciplined in 
cultivating spiritual experience by the practice of silent meditation in 
facilitated groups or collective meditation as the Quaker “Meeting for 
Worship”.  
 

 Some thousands of Quakers came to Iowa in the early settlement period. Across 
the Iowa landscape 'group meditation' arrived in the Quaker settlement of 
frontier Iowa then with the laying out and building of their Quaker Meeting 
Houses to facilitate their silent group meditation that was the common Quaker 
silent practice of a cultivated Quietism. 
 

  As a larger spiritual regeneration movement coming to Iowa in that settlement 
period this was in a time just prior to when an older Society of Friends as a 
spiritual practice group was overtaken and overthrown by evangelical 'believer' 
ideology that came along in America during the 19th Century. That takedown in 
form is its own recurring story as 'the loss of spiritual Knowledge' in time. 
In sequence of time the spiritual Quakers subsequently tended to move further 
on to the West on to other places supporting their group cultivation of 
transcendent spirituality.  ..Birds of a feather flock together in diaspora. 
 

 However, there is a map of where the Quaker group meditations were planted in 
Iowa during the frontier period of time. This map does not represent the whole 
of Quaker Meeting Houses as the group who had overtaken the Society of Friends 
Iowa Yearly Meeting later in the 19th Century was not recognizing on their 
drawn map of the 1870's some of the older meetings in the State who had 
continued on separately with the original silent meditating practice of the old 
Quaker spiritual practice as heritage going way back. 
 

 The map is noteworthy because it indicates the extent of what was the old 
Society of Friends at an earlier time. Evidently what we see presently in 
present day Iowa as the group practice of Quietism as a cultivating 
transcendental meditation is not just a recent phenomena of spiritual practice 
in Iowa.
 

 Map: 
  
http://www.icelandichorse.info/salemfugitiveslaves/friendsmeetingsiowa1870.jpg 
http://www.icelandichorse.info/salemfugitiveslaves/friendsmeetingsiowa1870.jpg
 

 The note about the map made on
 http://www.icelandichorse.info/salemfugitiveslaves.html 
http://www.icelandichorse.info/salemfugitiveslaves.html
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Long before Swami Vivkananda, Yogananda and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi came along 
to the West came others as teaching transcendentalists, preceding them in a 
sequence. In Europe there was a long lineage of the equivalent in European 
transcendentalist spiritual satsanga and ashram-like spiritual practice 
communities coming out of what was then called Quietism in spiritual practice.
 

 An earlier post on FairfieldLife copied in the European lineage. In the 
historical stories a lot of those groups came in settlement to America fleeing 
persecution of the formal beliefs of religious ideologies. Transcendentalism as 
a spiritual teaching and practice is a common story in the settlement of 
America. It could seem that transcendentalism as it has come along is very 
American. See FFL post# 385441
 

 385441RE: In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism 

 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/385441 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/385441
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On December 31, 1957, celebrating the Conference of Spiritual Luminaries of 
India, Maharishi inaugurated the Spiritual Regeneration Movement in Madras, 
India, to spiritually regenerate the world.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yep, in a line of transcendentalists Elias Hicks carried the banner in satsang

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is TM a New Religion? The Federal District Court

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Upfronter; Nice post.  Brave words to write and post.
 I would doubt that you are alone in this feeling.  Ollie raised the similar 
observation too about larger spiritual experience or the lack there of within 
the Tony Nader thread here relative to some of the Anti-TM’ing on the internet. 
 
 
 -JaiGuruYou
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I read a lot of the TM-free site last year and I can understand why some 
people feel the way they do in regard to MMY and his latter years’ emphasis 
upon it being essential to have such things as the correct architecture for “a 
man to be right” when originally all that was needed was the do the meditation 
practice regularly. To me, it perhaps demonstrates that just because a human 
has learnt meditation and has practiced it in close communion with masters, it 
does not mean that he is free from bias and human error.
  
 But I also think that the TM-free people have missed the beauty of the finer 
results of the practice of meditation, and in so doing they have become 
somewhat obsessed because this finer reality of regular meditation is missing – 
and I’m not confining this to TM or TM-Siddhis.
  
 When I apply my attention to “that which does not change”, I begin to see that 
it is actually “that which does not change” which is really doing the observing 
while my attention “disappears” or is seen as temporary. “That which does not 
change” is like a fine invisible “mist” that permeates everything, me, others 
and all, but it is the “mist” which sees and no longer whoever I thought was 
observing. i.e. “me”. It is very nice to be “mist”. I know some people say that 
Being has no attributes but I have to say that it has the attribute of being 
all-satisfaction. I believe this is just a human experience and the "mist" is 
the basis for something far more tangible and real yet to be revealed.

  
 So this is why I come to the conclusion that the TM-free people haven’t found 
the satisfaction of “I Am Being-ness” or else they could not be brought to make 
some of the statements I have read. I suppose this sounds crazy-talk to them.

[FairfieldLife] MUM Student Petition

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

On a blog, 
 

 MUM Student Petition http://www.transformmum.com/mum-student-petition/

 
 
 http://www.transformmum.com/mum-student-petition/ 
 
 MUM Student Petition http://www.transformmum.com/mum-student-petition/ We, the 
student body of Maharishi University of Management are presenting a petition to 
the school administration.  This petition is in good faith and the r...
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] How Does One Access the 5th Dimension?

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It appears that people who have reached, at least, cosmic consciousness can 
have access to the 5th dimension.  It means that you can go anyplace and 
anytime in the universe.  In the western culture, various saints in the 
Catholic religion have been able to master the siddhi of bilocation, such as 
St. Martin de Porres.  In the Vedic tradition, Narada was able to travel to 
various places in the universe to teach sentient beings of Vishnu and his 
nature.
 

 However, yogic flying and floating in the air might be another siddhi that 
accesses the 6th Dimension which can pertain to the control of gravity.
 

 Access to the other higher dimensions can mean attaining the power to heal, 
the power to create, and manipulate the various elements  in nature, such as 
fire, water, air, earth, ether and the various forces at the subatomic level.
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Latest Hillary Clinton Scandal

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Did she and Bill take money from Saudi leaders?  If true, can she survive the 
political turmoil?
 

 Hillary’s Latest Scandal: She And Bill Siphoned $100 Mil From Mideast Leaders 
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/hillarys-latest-scandal-she-and-bill-siphoned-100-mil-from-persian-gulf-leaders/
 
 
 
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/hillarys-latest-scandal-she-and-bill-siphoned-100-mil-from-persian-gulf-leaders/
 
 
 Hillary’s Latest Scandal: She And Bill Siphoned $100 Mil... 
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/hillarys-latest-scandal-she-and-bill-siphoned-100-mil-from-persian-gulf-leaders/
 Scandal: A new investigation reveals that Bill and Hillary Clinton took in at 
least $100 million from Middle East leaders.
 
 
 
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