Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health
yes... we should have all known that clumping litter was too good to be true. lol. maybe i'll just go back to regular. it's cheaper anyway. ALSO has anyone tried the 'sifting bags' for litter. They're expensive, but I love them. Cleaning the box is faster, and when you get down to the last layer the litter box isn't as hard to wash. The box says they are best for declawed cats, but my cats have all their claws. Sometimes they do rip through a layer or 2, but it's still worth it to me. tNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's a paste from Michelle's article:"Sodium bentonite, a naturally swelling clay, is often added as an extremely effective clumping agent. When liquid is added, bentonite swells to approximately 15 times its original volume. But because sodium bentonite acts as an expandable cement would, litters containing sodium bentonite should never be flushed; when they expand they can block plumbing."I don't know if they are mandated to list ingredients like sodium bentonite, or silica on the labels of kitty litter. I think a good rule of thumb, (at least the one I'm going to follow), is, if it is a clumping clay litter, don't use it. I would certainly not use it for kittens or sick cats that might eat or lick litter. It seems to me it wouldn't be good for any cat because they will probably ingest at least some litter when grooming themselves after, um, visiting the box. And there's the problem with inhaling the stuff too. I did read that litters like Johnny cat, you know, plain clay litters, don't carry the same risks.NinaHideyo Yamamoto wrote:>How do we know if they use sodium bentonite? Will they say it if they>do,, or if they use clay, they have to use sodium bentonite?>
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Thanks for the chuckle, re: "ugh...". I know exactly what you mean. Ah, for the days of ignorant bliss... N catatonya wrote: Thanks Nina, I'll look it up. The reed is for my pond so the cats won't be getting into it, but still I guess I need to check up on my litter now too. ugh. t Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Tonya, Yeah, silica is a no no. Michelle started the thread with an article on clumping clay litter that talked about the dangers of sodium bentonite, esp to kittens, (respiratory, GI, etc), but silica is bad too. I don't know about the dangers it would pose in a horsetail reed. Maybe you could look it up under poisonous plants? I know I had a site bookmarked, but I can't find it. Let me know if you need help researching it. Nina
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Thanks Nina, I'll look it up. The reed is for my pond so the cats won't be getting into it, but still I guess I need to check up on my litter now too. ugh. tNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Tonya,Yeah, silica is a no no. Michelle started the thread with an article on clumping clay litter that talked about the dangers of sodium bentonite, esp to kittens, (respiratory, GI, etc), but silica is bad too. I don't know about the dangers it would pose in a horsetail reed. Maybe you could look it up under poisonous plants? I know I had a site bookmarked, but I can't find it. Let me know if you need help researching it.Ninacatatonya wrote:> I have missed this conversation too much too figure out what's going > on.. Is the silica what is supposed to be hazardous???> > I just bought a 'horsetail reed' for my pond, and the lady told me the > settlers used to break the reeds to get the silica out of it to wash > dishes with..> > I have tried swheat scoop and got the meal worms/moths, and where I > washed them outside they attracted flies and ants.. I liked > it, but I gave up on it.> > t
Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health
Here's a paste from Michelle's article: "Sodium bentonite, a naturally swelling clay, is often added as an extremely effective clumping agent. When liquid is added, bentonite swells to approximately 15 times its original volume. But because sodium bentonite acts as an expandable cement would, litters containing sodium bentonite should never be flushed; when they expand they can block plumbing." I don't know if they are mandated to list ingredients like sodium bentonite, or silica on the labels of kitty litter. I think a good rule of thumb, (at least the one I'm going to follow), is, if it is a clumping clay litter, don't use it. I would certainly not use it for kittens or sick cats that might eat or lick litter. It seems to me it wouldn't be good for any cat because they will probably ingest at least some litter when grooming themselves after, um, visiting the box. And there's the problem with inhaling the stuff too. I did read that litters like Johnny cat, you know, plain clay litters, don't carry the same risks. Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: How do we know if they use sodium bentonite? Will they say it if they do,, or if they use clay, they have to use sodium bentonite?
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How do we know if they use sodium bentonite? Will they say it if they do,, or if they use clay, they have to use sodium bentonite? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:36 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health Hi Tonya, Yeah, silica is a no no. Michelle started the thread with an article on clumping clay litter that talked about the dangers of sodium bentonite, esp to kittens, (respiratory, GI, etc), but silica is bad too. I don't know about the dangers it would pose in a horsetail reed. Maybe you could look it up under poisonous plants? I know I had a site bookmarked, but I can't find it. Let me know if you need help researching it. Nina catatonya wrote: > I have missed this conversation too much too figure out what's going > on.. Is the silica what is supposed to be hazardous??? > > I just bought a 'horsetail reed' for my pond, and the lady told me the > settlers used to break the reeds to get the silica out of it to wash > dishes with.. > > I have tried swheat scoop and got the meal worms/moths, and where I > washed them outside they attracted flies and ants.. I liked > it, but I gave up on it. > > t
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Hi Tonya, Yeah, silica is a no no. Michelle started the thread with an article on clumping clay litter that talked about the dangers of sodium bentonite, esp to kittens, (respiratory, GI, etc), but silica is bad too. I don't know about the dangers it would pose in a horsetail reed. Maybe you could look it up under poisonous plants? I know I had a site bookmarked, but I can't find it. Let me know if you need help researching it. Nina catatonya wrote: I have missed this conversation too much too figure out what's going on.. Is the silica what is supposed to be hazardous??? I just bought a 'horsetail reed' for my pond, and the lady told me the settlers used to break the reeds to get the silica out of it to wash dishes with.. I have tried swheat scoop and got the meal worms/moths, and where I washed them outside they attracted flies and ants.. I liked it, but I gave up on it. t
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I have missed this conversation too much too figure out what's going on.. Is the silica what is supposed to be hazardous??? I just bought a 'horsetail reed' for my pond, and the lady told me the settlers used to break the reeds to get the silica out of it to wash dishes with.. I have tried swheat scoop and got the meal worms/moths, and where I washed them outside they attracted flies and ants.. I liked it, but I gave up on it. tNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Kat! The chicken feed certainly wouldn't work for Michelle, or anyone that might have a rodent problem. I can just see the little guys lined up at the buffet. Was it someone on the list that wrote about weevils being a problem with wheat litter? You'd think I had tons of time on my hands! I can't even remember where I read what.NinaKat wrote:>Nina,>There are 2 kinds of crumbles - one of them is laced with antibiotics, so>double check when you call around.>Kat (Mew Jersey)>
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Apple Pectin worked on Mai Mai (a wonderful dog who found me) when she had major IBD type symptoms. You might try that. I have used it on cats with diarrhea too. My alternative vet recommends it highly. It is a health food/internet procuct. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:44 PM Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health You know, I am wondering now if Lucy is actually allergic/sensitive to all wood products. She got constipated after I put her on pred and was feeding her just plain broiled turkey for a few days, as her intestines calmed down and she was getting no fiber. I then started mixing some rice bran and a little slippery elm into the turkey. She then had blood on her next stool, and now she is starting to have soft stools again, even though still on 10 mg/day of pred. I remember trying slippery elm with her in the fall when her symptoms started, to try to stop diarrhea, and thinking it made her worse. I gave it to her for constipation this time, and I think it brought back her IBD symptoms (if that is what is going on). If this is an IBD flare-up, and not lymphoma, I think it was caused by the feline pine litter. And now I think she is worse because of slippery elm. Which makes me wonder if she is allergic to wood derivatives in general. Michelle No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006
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Just a thought, but perhaps peat moss might work. It would track pretty bad though. I was just spreading some in the flowerbeds today, man, the ferals LOVE to poo in it! Anyways, it's a thought. Not sure how toxic peat moss is to cats, but it can't be too bad, my ferals are fine, and they poo, roll, sleep, etc in the stuff. I tried changing the litter, but the pine I switched to may have made Lucy sick. Wheat would probably attract mice too. Clay isn't good for the cats. And I am skittish of the ink in the recycled newspaper. What to do? maybe I will try to order the kanaf litter online. Do mice eat kanaf? i don't think it is a grain, I think it is something they make paper out of, like a bamboo-type plant... Michelle No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006
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You know, I am wondering now if Lucy is actually allergic/sensitive to all wood products. She got constipated after I put her on pred and was feeding her just plain broiled turkey for a few days, as her intestines calmed down and she was getting no fiber. I then started mixing some rice bran and a little slippery elm into the turkey. She then had blood on her next stool, and now she is starting to have soft stools again, even though still on 10 mg/day of pred. I remember trying slippery elm with her in the fall when her symptoms started, to try to stop diarrhea, and thinking it made her worse. I gave it to her for constipation this time, and I think it brought back her IBD symptoms (if that is what is going on). If this is an IBD flare-up, and not lymphoma, I think it was caused by the feline pine litter. And now I think she is worse because of slippery elm. Which makes me wonder if she is allergic to wood derivatives in general. Michelle
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I think you are right about this. Quincy has used pine litter for years with no problem, and Lucy seems to have (though it could be coincidental) gotten a flare-up of her IBD just from using it for a few days. Michelle In a message dated 7/6/2006 9:46:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also suspect that some animals might be more sensitive than others and the aromatic oils could well cause allergic reactions in sensitive kitties. This is good info elizabeth
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Thank you for posting this - very interesting article. I too, was wondering about pine litter because Mama Kitty's favorite parlor spot is digging a deep hole in the pine mulch I've put around trees and in flower beds. She's there briefly though and goes to great lengths to disguise the fact that she visited. After reading this, I'm thinking that her brief visits in the outside environment may not pose such as threat as say breathing it long term in a closed environment or sleeping there on a regular basis in a very closed space. I also suspect that some animals might be more sensitive than others and the aromatic oils could well cause allergic reactions in sensitive kitties. This is good info elizabeth In a message dated 7/6/2006 6:30:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From Best Friends Website:http://www.bestfriends.com/archives/forums/031405pocket.htmlWhy are certain types of wood shavings dangerous?Question from Karey:Last week, the forum guest talked about different types of litter for cats, and one of the members mentioned in a question that pine/cedar litter or bedding is not good for rabbits and pocket pets.Can you explain why that is? And is it safe for cats, for that matter? Or humans? What if we rescue a pocket pet from a situation and they had been previously exposed to pine/cedar bedding? Should we be on the lookout for any symptoms?Response from Dr. Mark:Softwoods such as pine, fir, redwood, and especially cedar, are high in aromatic wood oils; that's what makes cedar smell like cedar, for instance. These oils are pleasant smelling, making these woods popular for use as bedding (they're also cheap). The problem is, the oils released from the woods can be toxic if inhaled for long periods of time, or if absorbed through the skin and/or licked off the skin when grooming. For cat litter box use, these oils are a minimal concern; the cat isn't living in the box (well, we hope not anyway!) and isn't in constant contact with the material. Some paper litters are even scented with cedar oil, and this is ok.But a rodent living in the litter material, contacting it constantly, and breathing the aromatic oil fumes at close range constantly, can have medical problems as a result. One problem can be skin irritation, especially if the pet develops an allergic reaction to the oils. I've seen mice housed on cedar who lost all the hair on their faces and were extremely red and itchy, until the cedar chips were removed. Studies with rats showed that when housed on pine, fir or cedar chips, they all had enlarged livers (due to constant detoxifying of the absorbed oils by the liver), and mild to moderate lung damage. When housed on recycled paper bedding (non scented) or hardwood bedding (birch, aspen, alder) there were no signs of toxicity.So if it's a house cat or house rabbit who occasionally uses a litter box, exposure to litter materials is brief and probably of minimal concern. Cage bedding, on the other hand, poses a threat of long-term heavy exposure to toxic oils if the wrong materials are used.Animals previously housed on cedar, etc, may have minimal outward signs of problems. If they do show lung or skin problems, these could be other diseases as well, i.e. respiratory infections, mites on the skin, etc. The bedding may contribute to lung or skin problems, but is rarely the whole answer; other disease is often present if obvious symptoms are seen. Simply prevent further exposure to the wrong beddings, and treat whatever illness may be present. Nothing else can be easily done; the body hopefully will eliminate any wood oils once exposure is halted. Another website mentioning it:http://exoticpets.about.com/cs/guineapigs/tp/tpbedding.htmI was using the Mountain Cat back in the late early 90's, and like I said I never noticed any problem, but I had read a few articles about it possibly causing problems and I just decided it wasn't worth any possible risk.-- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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I doubt the trees themselves, or the bark, is a problem. In fact, maritime pine bark extract is a health supplement, renowned for its antioxidant effects, and i gave it to my dog Fern when she had cancer and she did really well on it. I think it is the pine oil that is the problem, which is on the inside of the tree and just comes out when they process the wood. Cedar is the same. Michelle In a message dated 7/6/2006 8:18:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is so strange. I would like to know more about pine being a hazard to cats. There are several ferals and/or throw aways who live at/near my Mom's. Most of them stay in the pine thicket behind her house or sleep under the pine trees at the side. I really would appreciate more information if anyone has any.
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I do know the only time I ever mopped my floors with Pine Sol, my cat Skeeter got sick and didn't feel well for about 3 days. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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From Best Friends Website: http://www.bestfriends.com/archives/forums/031405pocket.html Why are certain types of wood shavings dangerous? Question from Karey: Last week, the forum guest talked about different types of litter for cats, and one of the members mentioned in a question that pine/cedar litter or bedding is not good for rabbits and pocket pets. Can you explain why that is? And is it safe for cats, for that matter? Or humans? What if we rescue a pocket pet from a situation and they had been previously exposed to pine/cedar bedding? Should we be on the lookout for any symptoms? Response from Dr. Mark: Softwoods such as pine, fir, redwood, and especially cedar, are high in aromatic wood oils; that's what makes cedar smell like cedar, for instance. These oils are pleasant smelling, making these woods popular for use as bedding (they're also cheap). The problem is, the oils released from the woods can be toxic if inhaled for long periods of time, or if absorbed through the skin and/or licked off the skin when grooming. For cat litter box use, these oils are a minimal concern; the cat isn't living in the box (well, we hope not anyway!) and isn't in constant contact with the material. Some paper litters are even scented with cedar oil, and this is ok. But a rodent living in the litter material, contacting it constantly, and breathing the aromatic oil fumes at close range constantly, can have medical problems as a result. One problem can be skin irritation, especially if the pet develops an allergic reaction to the oils. I've seen mice housed on cedar who lost all the hair on their faces and were extremely red and itchy, until the cedar chips were removed. Studies with rats showed that when housed on pine, fir or cedar chips, they all had enlarged livers (due to constant detoxifying of the absorbed oils by the liver), and mild to moderate lung damage. When housed on recycled paper bedding (non scented) or hardwood bedding (birch, aspen, alder) there were no signs of toxicity. So if it's a house cat or house rabbit who occasionally uses a litter box, exposure to litter materials is brief and probably of minimal concern. Cage bedding, on the other hand, poses a threat of long-term heavy exposure to toxic oils if the wrong materials are used. Animals previously housed on cedar, etc, may have minimal outward signs of problems. If they do show lung or skin problems, these could be other diseases as well, i.e. respiratory infections, mites on the skin, etc. The bedding may contribute to lung or skin problems, but is rarely the whole answer; other disease is often present if obvious symptoms are seen. Simply prevent further exposure to the wrong beddings, and treat whatever illness may be present. Nothing else can be easily done; the body hopefully will eliminate any wood oils once exposure is halted. Another website mentioning it: http://exoticpets.about.com/cs/guineapigs/tp/tpbedding.htm I was using the Mountain Cat back in the late early 90's, and like I said I never noticed any problem, but I had read a few articles about it possibly causing problems and I just decided it wasn't worth any possible risk. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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This is so strange. I would like to know more about pine being a hazard to cats. There are several ferals and/or throw aways who live at/near my Mom's. Most of them stay in the pine thicket behind her house or sleep under the pine trees at the side. I really would appreciate more information if anyone has any. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Belinda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 6:50 AM Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health I used to use something called mountain cat litter years ago, it was a pine based litter. I stopped using it when I heard pine was deadly for cats. I never had a problem but I just figured it wasn't worth any risk if there was one. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006
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I have used it for years with Quincy, and have liked it (very little odor, easy to clean, environmental). However, Lucy, who has IBD, had a flare-up right after I switched her box (Quincy is separate from my positives) to feline pine. I have no idea whether or not it is related, but in researching it my mom found some websites that say that the pine oils can give cats various problems including IBD. So I would not start on it, if you have not been using it, just in case. Michelle In a message dated 7/6/2006 2:42:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any information about Feline Pine? Gina
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I used to use something called mountain cat litter years ago, it was a pine based litter. I stopped using it when I heard pine was deadly for cats. I never had a problem but I just figured it wasn't worth any risk if there was one. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Does anyone have any information about Feline Pine? GinaTad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have heard that a problem with corn litter is that dogs can't eat just one !!!And some have been hospitalized from eating too muchTad[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yes, I have to say I found the organic thing kind of amusing. I eat organic food myself, and try to buy it for the animals, but never really thought about organic litter! :) I have found it in every pet food store I have shopped at, except maybe the big ones like Petsmart. Basically any place that sells healthy cat foods like Wellness and Innova should carry it. It is pricey. I think it's $17 for a 20 pound bag. But it lasts a really long time. You can scoop it, and it keeps odor down better than any cat litter I have ever found. It has no odor itself, other than a faint corn smell. Michelle In a message dated 7/4/2006 6:15:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks. So you can get World's Best Cat Litter in the US? When I found their website they didn't have a retailer listed in the US. Where do you buy it? I'm guessing it's pricey too. I'm pleased about using something that is biodegradable and not a health risk to me or my babies, but I'm not to worried about my cats pooping in non-organic litter. N No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
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Sally says it does. Not as well as clumping litter, but enough to make scooping urine possible. She says it stays cleaner than regular clay litter too. I'm going to try it. You might want to consider trying it since it costs so much less. Did you read Kat's warning to be sure the chicken feed crumbles don't contain abx? Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Does corn chicken feed clump?
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Does corn chicken feed clump? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:53 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health I just called Sally to ask her about which litter she uses, (many of you guys probably remember "Sally from San Jose" that used to be on the list). She had a very sad time with kitten mortality not too long ago and I just wanted to make sure she wasn't using the hazardous litters. I should have known better. Anyway, what she uses is corn chicken feed. It's called "laying chicken crumbles" and she says it works almost as well, (for clumping properties) as the World's best litter and is very inexpensive. It's doubtful that this is organically grown ;-) , but it is biodegradable and ingestible. I'm going to call around and see if I can find it at feed stores. Sally says she prefers it to the clay because it's not as heavy and there are no chemicals added. I'll let you know how well it works for my guys, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message -From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wednesday, July 5, 2006 11:43 amSubject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's HealthTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Thanks Hideyo,I did a search on "sweet scoop". It's actually spelled "Swheat Scoop*", *a little clever word play, as if English isn't confusing enough! I was surprised to find out just how great a hazard the regular clumping litter can be, (thanks again Michelle), and I don't want to support the companies that make it, or endanger my cats. It is discouraging to find yet another expense and inconvenience trying to do what's best for my fur family. I did a little snooping and regular, non scented clay litter like Johnny cat, seems to be safe. Has anyone heard anything that would make you suspect otherwise?Nina* I use regular, non scented, non scooping litter for my kittens as tiny kittens will eat scooping litter - I don't know why, it doesn't look like it would taste very good. It is so cheap I just dump the whole kitten litterboxes out and refill them daily. I think 20 lbs is about $2.50 on sale around here.
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Thanks Kat! The chicken feed certainly wouldn't work for Michelle, or anyone that might have a rodent problem. I can just see the little guys lined up at the buffet. Was it someone on the list that wrote about weevils being a problem with wheat litter? You'd think I had tons of time on my hands! I can't even remember where I read what. Nina Kat wrote: Nina, There are 2 kinds of crumbles - one of them is laced with antibiotics, so double check when you call around. Kat (Mew Jersey)
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Nina, There are 2 kinds of crumbles - one of them is laced with antibiotics, so double check when you call around. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Nina wrote: > Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 10:53:23 -0700 > From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health > > I just called Sally to ask her about which litter she uses, (many of you > guys probably remember "Sally from San Jose" that used to be on the > list). She had a very sad time with kitten mortality not too long ago > and I just wanted to make sure she wasn't using the hazardous litters. > I should have known better. Anyway, what she uses is corn chicken > feed. It's called "laying chicken crumbles" and she says it works > almost as well, (for clumping properties) as the World's best litter and > is very inexpensive. It's doubtful that this is organically grown ;-) , > but it is biodegradable and ingestible. I'm going to call around and > see if I can find it at feed stores. Sally says she prefers it to the > clay because it's not as heavy and there are no chemicals added. I'll > let you know how well it works for my guys, > Nina > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: Wednesday, July 5, 2006 11:43 am > >Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's > >Health > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > >>Thanks Hideyo, > >>I did a search on "sweet scoop". It's actually spelled "Swheat > >>Scoop*", > >>*a little clever word play, as if English isn't confusing enough! > >>I was > >>surprised to find out just how great a hazard the regular clumping > >>litter can be, (thanks again Michelle), and I don't want to > >>support the > >>companies that make it, or endanger my cats. It is discouraging > >>to find > >>yet another expense and inconvenience trying to do what's best for > >>my > >>fur family. I did a little snooping and regular, non scented clay > >>litter like Johnny cat, seems to be safe. Has anyone heard > >>anything > >>that would make you suspect otherwise? > >>Nina > >>* > >> > >> > >I use regular, non scented, non scooping litter for my kittens as tiny > >kittens will eat scooping litter - I don't know why, it doesn't look > >like it would taste very good. It is so cheap I just dump the whole > >kitten litterboxes out and refill them daily. I think 20 lbs is about > >$2.50 on sale around here. > > >
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I just called Sally to ask her about which litter she uses, (many of you guys probably remember "Sally from San Jose" that used to be on the list). She had a very sad time with kitten mortality not too long ago and I just wanted to make sure she wasn't using the hazardous litters. I should have known better. Anyway, what she uses is corn chicken feed. It's called "laying chicken crumbles" and she says it works almost as well, (for clumping properties) as the World's best litter and is very inexpensive. It's doubtful that this is organically grown ;-) , but it is biodegradable and ingestible. I'm going to call around and see if I can find it at feed stores. Sally says she prefers it to the clay because it's not as heavy and there are no chemicals added. I'll let you know how well it works for my guys, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, July 5, 2006 11:43 am Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Thanks Hideyo, I did a search on "sweet scoop". It's actually spelled "Swheat Scoop*", *a little clever word play, as if English isn't confusing enough! I was surprised to find out just how great a hazard the regular clumping litter can be, (thanks again Michelle), and I don't want to support the companies that make it, or endanger my cats. It is discouraging to find yet another expense and inconvenience trying to do what's best for my fur family. I did a little snooping and regular, non scented clay litter like Johnny cat, seems to be safe. Has anyone heard anything that would make you suspect otherwise? Nina * I use regular, non scented, non scooping litter for my kittens as tiny kittens will eat scooping litter - I don't know why, it doesn't look like it would taste very good. It is so cheap I just dump the whole kitten litterboxes out and refill them daily. I think 20 lbs is about $2.50 on sale around here.
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- Original Message - From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, July 5, 2006 11:43 am Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Thanks Hideyo, > I did a search on "sweet scoop". It's actually spelled "Swheat > Scoop*", > *a little clever word play, as if English isn't confusing enough! > I was > surprised to find out just how great a hazard the regular clumping > litter can be, (thanks again Michelle), and I don't want to > support the > companies that make it, or endanger my cats. It is discouraging > to find > yet another expense and inconvenience trying to do what's best for > my > fur family. I did a little snooping and regular, non scented clay > litter like Johnny cat, seems to be safe. Has anyone heard > anything > that would make you suspect otherwise? > Nina > * I use regular, non scented, non scooping litter for my kittens as tiny kittens will eat scooping litter - I don't know why, it doesn't look like it would taste very good. It is so cheap I just dump the whole kitten litterboxes out and refill them daily. I think 20 lbs is about $2.50 on sale around here.
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Thanks Hideyo, I did a search on "sweet scoop". It's actually spelled "Swheat Scoop", a little clever word play, as if English isn't confusing enough! I was surprised to find out just how great a hazard the regular clumping litter can be, (thanks again Michelle), and I don't want to support the companies that make it, or endanger my cats. It is discouraging to find yet another expense and inconvenience trying to do what's best for my fur family. I did a little snooping and regular, non scented clay litter like Johnny cat, seems to be safe. Has anyone heard anything that would make you suspect otherwise? Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Nina, I was using it for years until my distributor continued to carry (since I buy stuff from a wholesale distributors) you can get petsmart, petco.. or now just about most of pet supplies.. I use sweet scoop, which is much cheaper than worlds best ---I personally prefer worlds best,, but with the volume I have and since I can no longer get them from a distributor, I switched,, and it does what it needs to do, and still safe..
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Also, Dr Elley’s (sp?) cat litter is a clay litter, but does not contain silica, and therefore it’s supposed to be safe.. and much much cheaper than any other kinds.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 3:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health This is what i found on one of the web pages my mom sent me: · Most, if not all, clay litters contain silica, which is potentially harmful. >From a Web page at The Andersons' Web site (manufacturers of FIELDFresh): "Crystalline Silica, once airborne, shows the ability of causing Silicosis. This can cause incurable lesions on the lungs and throat, rendering that tissue useless for transferring oxygen. Crystalline Silica is a naturally occurring element, also known as Quartz, and is found in some of the clay litters. ... According to government standards, silica is a known carcinogen and a Prop 65 material in California." Yours is mostly dust-free, so maybe it is ok. I would be paranoid about it, though. The dessicant stuff that Arm and Hammer compares it to is definitely harmful if eaten (that's what all those little bags in vitamin bottles are filled with, and they always say "caution: do not eat" on them), and they do tend to get litter on their paws and lick their paws. The websites my mom sent recommend using corn or wheat litter, or using recycled newspaper litter (they say that the chemical that used to make ink harmful is now illegal for newspapers to use, but I still don't like the idea of any ink being in the litter box). I use Worlds' Best Cat Litter, which is made of corn, and is great. It clumps just enough to be able to scoop it, but the clumps are soft, not hard, and it is just corn, which is digestible if swallowed, and safe. One of the websites my mom sent me said it is the safest, healthiest, and most environmental of the litters. Another said it is not the best because the corn is not organic and hence has some pesticides on it, and recommended using an organic wheat litter or recycled newspaper litter instead. There are apparently other plant-based litters also, like ones made out of kanaf. Hope this helps, Michelle
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Nina, I was using it for years until my distributor continued to carry (since I buy stuff from a wholesale distributors) you can get petsmart, petco.. or now just about most of pet supplies.. I use sweet scoop, which is much cheaper than worlds best ---I personally prefer worlds best,, but with the volume I have and since I can no longer get them from a distributor, I switched,, and it does what it needs to do, and still safe.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health Thanks. So you can get World's Best Cat Litter in the US? When I found their website they didn't have a retailer listed in the US. Where do you buy it? I'm guessing it's pricey too. I'm pleased about using something that is biodegradable and not a health risk to me or my babies, but I'm not to worried about my cats pooping in non-organic litter. N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I use Worlds' Best Cat Litter, which is made of corn, and is great. It > clumps just enough to be able to scoop it, but the clumps are soft, > not hard, and it is just corn, which is digestible if swallowed, and > safe. One of the websites my mom sent me said it is the safest, > healthiest, and most environmental of the litters. Another said it is > not the best because the corn is not organic and hence has some > pesticides on it, and recommended using an organic wheat litter or > recycled newspaper litter instead. There are apparently other > plant-based litters also, like ones made out of kanaf. > > Hope this helps, > Michelle
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I found out (first hand) that bears like it too!! I had been ordering mine online before it became available in my local stores, and one day the delivery was left on my porch while I was at work. Being tired when I got home, I figured I'd bring the box in after dinner - but before I got the chance a "yearling" black bear was on my proch trying to rip the box open. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 19:13:24 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health > > > I did not use this in the house when my dogs were alive, so it's possible. I > have been worried that it is attracting mice (we have a lot of mice in the > house, judging from Lucy's hunting exploits), which is why I had switched to > pine. I switched back because Lucy got sick around the same time I switched. > If the mice like it, which I think they do (it's probably like a buffet to > them), dogs might also. > Michelle > > In a message dated 7/4/2006 7:11:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I have heard that a problem with corn litter is that dogs can't eat just one > !!! > And some have been hospitalized from eating too much > Tad > > > >
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Wheat attracts weevils that can aggravate a cat. Unfortunate since I loved the stuff. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:51 PM Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health What's next, hemp litter? That would make Woody Harrelson happy.Nina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucy just kills them, but does not eat them. Patches just watches them. Not sure what to do about them. I tried changing the litter, but the pine I switched to may have made Lucy sick. Wheat would probably attract mice too. Clay isn't good for the cats. And I am skittish of the ink in the recycled newspaper. What to do? maybe I will try to order the kanaf litter online. Do mice eat kanaf? i don't think it is a grain, I think it is something they make paper out of, like a bamboo-type plant... Michelle In a message dated 7/4/2006 7:25:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And the cats might get sick from eating too many mice Tad No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/381 - Release Date: 7/3/2006
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What's next, hemp litter? That would make Woody Harrelson happy. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucy just kills them, but does not eat them. Patches just watches them. Not sure what to do about them. I tried changing the litter, but the pine I switched to may have made Lucy sick. Wheat would probably attract mice too. Clay isn't good for the cats. And I am skittish of the ink in the recycled newspaper. What to do? maybe I will try to order the kanaf litter online. Do mice eat kanaf? i don't think it is a grain, I think it is something they make paper out of, like a bamboo-type plant... Michelle In a message dated 7/4/2006 7:25:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And the cats might get sick from eating too many mice Tad
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Speaking for my dogs, they might be more apt to forage freely if the chewy goodness was contained in a more palatable crunchy coating! Most of my litter boxes are in dog free zones. I have a couple that are in the aforementioned "trouble spots" were litterbox aversion has occurred in general population areas. I'm getting tired just thinking about this, ah for the days when I didn't "know" better about anything. N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On second thought, though... the corn litter I use is tiny little hard pieces of corn. Are there really a lot of dogs who would eat that? Or is there another kind of corn litter that is in another form? I guess it's hard to predict what dogs will eat, though! Michelle In a message dated 7/4/2006 7:11:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have heard that a problem with corn litter is that dogs can't eat just one !!! And some have been hospitalized from eating too much Tad
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Lucy just kills them, but does not eat them. Patches just watches them. Not sure what to do about them. I tried changing the litter, but the pine I switched to may have made Lucy sick. Wheat would probably attract mice too. Clay isn't good for the cats. And I am skittish of the ink in the recycled newspaper. What to do? maybe I will try to order the kanaf litter online. Do mice eat kanaf? i don't think it is a grain, I think it is something they make paper out of, like a bamboo-type plant... Michelle In a message dated 7/4/2006 7:25:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And the cats might get sick from eating too many mice Tad
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And the cats might get sick from eating too many mice Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did not use this in the house when my dogs were alive, so it's possible. I have been worried that it is attracting mice (we have a lot of mice in the house, judging from Lucy's hunting exploits), which is why I had switched to pine. I switched back because Lucy got sick around the same time I switched. If the mice like it, which I think they do (it's probably like a buffet to them), dogs might also. Michelle In a message dated 7/4/2006 7:11:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have heard that a problem with corn litter is that dogs can't eat just one !!! And some have been hospitalized from eating too much Tad
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On second thought, though... the corn litter I use is tiny little hard pieces of corn. Are there really a lot of dogs who would eat that? Or is there another kind of corn litter that is in another form? I guess it's hard to predict what dogs will eat, though! Michelle In a message dated 7/4/2006 7:11:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have heard that a problem with corn litter is that dogs can't eat just one !!!And some have been hospitalized from eating too muchTad
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I did not use this in the house when my dogs were alive, so it's possible. I have been worried that it is attracting mice (we have a lot of mice in the house, judging from Lucy's hunting exploits), which is why I had switched to pine. I switched back because Lucy got sick around the same time I switched. If the mice like it, which I think they do (it's probably like a buffet to them), dogs might also. Michelle In a message dated 7/4/2006 7:11:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have heard that a problem with corn litter is that dogs can't eat just one !!!And some have been hospitalized from eating too muchTad
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I have heard that a problem with corn litter is that dogs can't eat just one !!! And some have been hospitalized from eating too much Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I have to say I found the organic thing kind of amusing. I eat organic food myself, and try to buy it for the animals, but never really thought about organic litter! :) I have found it in every pet food store I have shopped at, except maybe the big ones like Petsmart. Basically any place that sells healthy cat foods like Wellness and Innova should carry it. It is pricey. I think it's $17 for a 20 pound bag. But it lasts a really long time. You can scoop it, and it keeps odor down better than any cat litter I have ever found. It has no odor itself, other than a faint corn smell. Michelle In a message dated 7/4/2006 6:15:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks. So you can get World's Best Cat Litter in the US? When I found their website they didn't have a retailer listed in the US. Where do you buy it? I'm guessing it's pricey too. I'm pleased about using something that is biodegradable and not a health risk to me or my babies, but I'm not to worried about my cats pooping in non-organic litter. N
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Yes, I have to say I found the organic thing kind of amusing. I eat organic food myself, and try to buy it for the animals, but never really thought about organic litter! :) I have found it in every pet food store I have shopped at, except maybe the big ones like Petsmart. Basically any place that sells healthy cat foods like Wellness and Innova should carry it. It is pricey. I think it's $17 for a 20 pound bag. But it lasts a really long time. You can scoop it, and it keeps odor down better than any cat litter I have ever found. It has no odor itself, other than a faint corn smell. Michelle In a message dated 7/4/2006 6:15:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks. So you can get World's Best Cat Litter in the US? When I found their website they didn't have a retailer listed in the US. Where do you buy it? I'm guessing it's pricey too. I'm pleased about using something that is biodegradable and not a health risk to me or my babies, but I'm not to worried about my cats pooping in non-organic litter. N
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Thanks. So you can get World's Best Cat Litter in the US? When I found their website they didn't have a retailer listed in the US. Where do you buy it? I'm guessing it's pricey too. I'm pleased about using something that is biodegradable and not a health risk to me or my babies, but I'm not to worried about my cats pooping in non-organic litter. N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Worlds' Best Cat Litter, which is made of corn, and is great. It clumps just enough to be able to scoop it, but the clumps are soft, not hard, and it is just corn, which is digestible if swallowed, and safe. One of the websites my mom sent me said it is the safest, healthiest, and most environmental of the litters. Another said it is not the best because the corn is not organic and hence has some pesticides on it, and recommended using an organic wheat litter or recycled newspaper litter instead. There are apparently other plant-based litters also, like ones made out of kanaf. Hope this helps, Michelle
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This is what i found on one of the web pages my mom sent me: Most, if not all, clay litters contain silica, which is potentially harmful. >From a Web page at The Andersons' Web site (manufacturers of FIELDFresh): "Crystalline Silica, once airborne, shows the ability of causing Silicosis. This can cause incurable lesions on the lungs and throat, rendering that tissue useless for transferring oxygen. Crystalline Silica is a naturally occurring element, also known as Quartz, and is found in some of the clay litters. ... According to government standards, silica is a known carcinogen and a Prop 65 material in California." Yours is mostly dust-free, so maybe it is ok. I would be paranoid about it, though. The dessicant stuff that Arm and Hammer compares it to is definitely harmful if eaten (that's what all those little bags in vitamin bottles are filled with, and they always say "caution: do not eat" on them), and they do tend to get litter on their paws and lick their paws. The websites my mom sent recommend using corn or wheat litter, or using recycled newspaper litter (they say that the chemical that used to make ink harmful is now illegal for newspapers to use, but I still don't like the idea of any ink being in the litter box). I use Worlds' Best Cat Litter, which is made of corn, and is great. It clumps just enough to be able to scoop it, but the clumps are soft, not hard, and it is just corn, which is digestible if swallowed, and safe. One of the websites my mom sent me said it is the safest, healthiest, and most environmental of the litters. Another said it is not the best because the corn is not organic and hence has some pesticides on it, and recommended using an organic wheat litter or recycled newspaper litter instead. There are apparently other plant-based litters also, like ones made out of kanaf. Hope this helps, Michelle
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I think that one of the websites my mom sent me mentioned silica being bad also. I can see if I can find it. You can probably find info on it by doing a search on cat litter and silica. Michelle In a message dated 7/4/2006 4:57:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I use clumping litter, so I appreciate your posting this to the list. The brand of clumping litter I get at Costco is LitterPurrfect. It doesn't contain sodium bentonite, but it does have silica gel. Do you know if this is dangerous as well? The box still warns against flushing the litter, so it makes me wonder. It says it's 99% dust free, so that should help with the inhalant risks. I did a quick search and this is what I found on the Arm & Hammer website about their litter, (couldn't find a website for LitterPurrfect). I'm always skeptical of any manufacturer's claims of safety etc. What do you think?> The silica gel beads used in "crystal" cat litters have an amorphous structure and pose no health hazard to the consumer (both the cat and its owner). Silica gel used for cat litters is chemically similar to silica gels used as desiccants (humidity absorbents found in bags, purses, etc.) but are structurally different, designed to remain intact in the presence of liquids (desiccant silica gels fracture in the presence of liquids). Silica gel crystals used for cat litter absorb cat urine into its internal pore structure, then allows the water to slowly evaporate.
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I use clumping litter, so I appreciate your posting this to the list. The brand of clumping litter I get at Costco is LitterPurrfect. It doesn't contain sodium bentonite, but it does have silica gel. Do you know if this is dangerous as well? The box still warns against flushing the litter, so it makes me wonder. It says it's 99% dust free, so that should help with the inhalant risks. I did a quick search and this is what I found on the Arm & Hammer website about their litter, (couldn't find a website for LitterPurrfect). I'm always skeptical of any manufacturer's claims of safety etc. What do you think? > The silica gel beads used in "crystal" cat litters have an amorphous structure and pose no health hazard to the consumer (both the cat and its owner). Silica gel used for cat litters is chemically similar to silica gels used as desiccants (humidity absorbents found in bags, purses, etc.) but are structurally different, designed to remain intact in the presence of liquids (desiccant silica gels fracture in the presence of liquids). Silica gel crystals used for cat litter absorb cat urine into its internal pore structure, then allows the water to slowly evaporate. When mixed at appropriate levels with scoopable or clumping clay, silica gel crystals add its absorbing properties to that of the clay, without interfering with the clumping properties of the clay and without having the negative properties associated with 100% silica gel crystals, such as potential cat rejection. The presence of silica gel crystals in our clumping litter also signals that the product is different and better than conventional clumping litter. > I hate to give up the convenience of clumping litter, but of course if I'm putting my cats at risk there's not debate. The website link doesn't seem to be that current. While I was composing this post, I did some more searching and I came up with an "all natural", ingestible, corn based clumping litter called "World's best cat litter" that talks about the dangers of respiratory aliments associated with silica gels The problem is it doesn't seem to be available in the US. Does anyone know of a natural clumping alternative that's available in the US? Here's what I found on the wbct website: SILICA CAT LITTER Silica gel litter is made from silica dioxide sand (the same material found in quartz), oxygen and water. The gel contains millions of tiny pores that can absorb up to 40 times their weight in moisture. It comes in spheres (also called “pearls”), half spheres and crystal shapes. Some manufacturers add dyes and scents, so you want to watch out for, and avoid, those. The most worrying part of silica is that it is a well known carcinogen (a substance that promotes cancer). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, my mom sent me this.. I do not use this kind of litter, but maybe some of you do... Hideyo-- what kind of litter do you use? This website talks about kittens having problems from the litter. Michelle
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FYI, my mom sent me this.. I do not use this kind of litter, but maybe some of you do... Hideyo-- what kind of litter do you use? This website talks about kittens having problems from the litter. Michelle --- Begin Message --- Click here: Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health --- End Message ---