OT - Flower Essences
Hi gang, Gosh everyone's been quiet lately! A little while back we were discussing RR and I mentioned that I'd heard of something similar called "Emergency" Essence. They're made by a company called Australian Bush Flower Essences. I just ordered it and another one called "Relationship" from Earth Spirits, http://www.earthspirits-herbals.com/ a distributor for them in, I think it's in MA. If you decide to give the FEs a try, don't order from ABFE! They charge $12.50 a bottle, (ES charges $11), but the kicker was they wanted $55. for shipping! Does anyone just click and pay that?? They also had the FE in cream form and mist spray. I'll let you know if the EE and Relationship works better than RR with helping ferals/newcomers to my household. Nina
Re: OT - Flower Essences
Nina, What have you concluded about EE versus RR? Thanks, Michelle In a message dated 5/18/2006 8:41:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi gang,Gosh everyone's been quiet lately! A little while back we were discussing RR and I mentioned that I'd heard of something similar called "Emergency" Essence. They're made by a company called Australian Bush Flower Essences. I just ordered it and another one called "Relationship" from Earth Spirits, http://www.earthspirits-herbals.com/ a distributor for them in, I think it's in MA. If you decide to give the FEs a try, don't order from ABFE! They charge $12.50 a bottle, (ES charges $11), but the kicker was they wanted $55. for shipping! Does anyone just click and pay that?? They also had the FE in cream form and mist spray. I'll let you know if the EE and Relationship works better than RR with helping ferals/newcomers to my household.Nina
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Michelle, I haven't actually had much use for the EE yet. I've practically gone through my bottle of "Relationship" adding it to all the water dishes. The way in which homeopathics work, (so subtly), I never know if it's just the passage of time, or if they really do help, you know? I have heard that some cats that don't respond to the RR, do with the EE. I feel like it's worth keeping it in the house, just in case. What's going on? Who needs EE? You? Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nina, What have you concluded about EE versus RR? Thanks, Michelle
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Ha! Probably. But no, I am just incredibly behind on email after several weeks of craziness with work, and so just read your email from a month ago and thought you might have found out by now if it works. I did read your email recently about me not being on the list as much. It's just an effect of my crazy work schedule lately, and I have been having sciatica, which makes me not want to sit at the computer for very long when I get home. You are all in my thoughts, though. Thanks, Michelle P.S. How is Gypsy doing these days? In a message dated 6/13/2006 1:36:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle,I haven't actually had much use for the EE yet. I've practically gone through my bottle of "Relationship" adding it to all the water dishes. The way in which homeopathics work, (so subtly), I never know if it's just the passage of time, or if they really do help, you know? I have heard that some cats that don't respond to the RR, do with the EE. I feel like it's worth keeping it in the house, just in case. What's going on? Who needs EE? You?Nina
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Belinda, We were referring to an Australian Bush Flower Essence called "Emergency". I got mine from Earth Spirits, http://www.earthspirits-herbals.com/ a distributor for them in, I think it's in MA. I just sent my latest little foster dog off with my husband for a plane ride to NJ to her new forever home :( . I tried not to get upset, I thought I hid it pretty well, but another little dog in our household, Angel, was so upset, she was shaking. I used the EE on her ears transdermally, and she calmed right down. Now, I can't say it's the EE, or my reassurance, but she did settle down right after I put it on her ears. I'll go take some myself and let you know if it helps me! Nina Belinda wrote: What is EE, I just ordered the RR creme and am curious about this EE?
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Tellington TTouch massage has a movement done on the ears known to calm animals. Perhaps it was less the EE and more of the touch you used to apply it. :) Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/363 - Release Date: 6/13/2006
Subject: OT - Flower Essences
Nina Hi go to my website www.pawsnj.petfinder.com I have on the left hand side it has "links" click on and it will bring you to my link for Holistic pets supplies to Sandi's site. I get my Austrailian Flowers from her she is nice and her prices are fair, she will mix what ever you need I have used her for a few years and love her service. You can email her tell her I recommanded her and she can mix up FE also to suit your purposes! Carla Message: 2 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 16:36:30 -0700 From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OT - Flower Essences To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi gang, Gosh everyone's been quiet lately! A little while back we were discussing RR and I mentioned that I'd heard of something similar called "Emergency" Essence. They're made by a company called Australian Bush Flower Essences. I just ordered it and another one called "Relationship" from Earth Spirits, http://www.earthspirits-herbals.com/ a distributor for them in, I think it's in MA. If you decide to give the FEs a try, don't order from ABFE! They charge $12.50 a bottle, (ES charges $11), but the kicker was they wanted $55. for shipping! Does anyone just click and pay that?? They also had the FE in cream form and mist spray. I'll let you know if the EE and Relationship works better than RR with helping ferals/newcomers to my household. Nina
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Nina Yes she does do recommandations. She is the one who recomended me to Emergency over Rescue. I myself found better results with Emergency than Rescue. I found that the Em does alittle more for my cats than the rescue but that's my opinion. She is not a vet but she does give flower essence advise. And most have worked for me. I find Sandi helpful and am very happy with her products and service. I have been happy with her service and products for about 2yrs so I order from her online all the time. Carla Message: 4 Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:56:00 -0700 From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Subject: OT - Flower Essences (diatomaceous earth for fleacontrol) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thanks Carla, I bookmarked yours and Sandi's sites. Thank you for all you and your friends are doing for the animals. Does Sandi do personal recommendations? Another good site for holistic/homeopathic care is Darla's: http://www.kitsnk9s.com/NatCAREHome.htm Sandi has diatomaceous earth for sale on her website. I think I'm going to try using it for my feral colonies, (on the ground, not in their food, I didn't even know it was ingestible). We're having a terrible time with fleas this year and I'm hoping it might help. I've heard of it before, but I'd forgotten about it. Phaewryn has posted about it before. I can't remember if there's any down side to it. Does anyone know if there are special precautions for using it? I guess I better Google it! Nina
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I've heard that using it for intestinal worms is just BS. I couldn't say for sure but the explanation I've seen on how it supposedly works would make me think it is BS. The claim is that the sharp edges of the earth pierce the exoskeleton of the worm (worms don't have exoskeletons) and then the worms die of dehydration (while swimming in a wet environment). If the earth is sharp enough to cut the worms, why wouldn't it cut the intestines? Gary - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: Re: Subject: OT - Flower Essences (diatomaceous earth forflea control) You really don't want to inhale much of it, but I've used it before on carpets, etc. to kill fleas. Farmers often give the food-grade DE to cattle to kill any intestinal parasites...also works well on fire ants! ;) "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George "The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long..." --Blade Runner - Original Message - From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:56 am Subject: Re: Subject: OT - Flower Essences (diatomaceous earth for flea control) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Thanks Carla, I bookmarked yours and Sandi's sites. Thank you for all you and your friends are doing for the animals. Does Sandi do personal recommendations? Another good site for holistic/homeopathic care is Darla's: http://www.kitsnk9s.com/NatCAREHome.htm Sandi has diatomaceous earth for sale on her website. I think I'm going to try using it for my feral colonies, (on the ground, not in their food, I didn't even know it was ingestible). We're having a terrible time with fleas this year and I'm hoping it might help. I've heard of it before, but I'd forgotten about it. Phaewryn has posted about it before. I can't remember if there's any down side to it. Does anyone know if there are special precautions for using it? I guess I better Google it! Nina Carla Shoppe wrote: >Nina > >Hi go to my website www.pawsnj.petfinder.com >I have on the left hand side it has "links" click on and it >will bring you to my link for Holistic pets supplies to Sandi's >site. I >get my Austrailian >Flowers from her she is nice and her prices are fair, she will >mix what ever you need I have used her for a few years and love >her service. > >You can email her tell her I recommanded her and she can mix up >FE also to suit >your purposes! > >Carla > > __ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. http://www.nod32.com
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Who can say? :) There hasn't been much scientific research in the area of internal parasite control...my guess is that it may work (if it does in fact work) by piercing the waxy protective surface of the parasite much as it does to external parasites (the microscopic "shards" of DE wouldn't seem large enough, in my opinion, to actually pierce any kind of exo-skeleton)...but if that waxy surface is compromised, my guess is that it would leave the worm/parasite susceptible to a pretty hostile environment (digestive enzymes/bacteria?)...just my guess! I would assume, however, that the biggest benefit to cattle/grazers would be the added mineral content of DE... "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George "The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long..." --Blade Runner - Original Message - From: gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:48 pm Subject: Re: Subject: OT - Flower Essences (diatomaceous earth forflea control) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > I've heard that using it for intestinal worms is just BS. I > couldn't say > for sure but the explanation I've seen on how it supposedly works > would make > me think it is BS. The claim is that the sharp edges of the earth > pierce > the exoskeleton of the worm (worms don't have exoskeletons) and > then the > worms die of dehydration (while swimming in a wet environment). If > the > earth is sharp enough to cut the worms, why wouldn't it cut the > intestines? > Gary > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: Subject: OT - Flower Essences (diatomaceous earth > forflea > control) > > > You really don't want to inhale much of it, but I've used it before on > carpets, etc. to kill fleas. Farmers often give the food-grade DE to > cattle to kill any intestinal parasites...also works well on fire > ants! ;) > > > > "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be > unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the > world; You > become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de > Saint-Exupéry > > "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know > each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and > whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." -- > Chief Dan > George > > "The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long..." -- > Blade Runner > > - Original Message - > From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:56 am > Subject: Re: Subject: OT - Flower Essences (diatomaceous earth for > fleacontrol) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Thanks Carla, > > I bookmarked yours and Sandi's sites. Thank you for all you and > > your > > friends are doing for the animals. Does Sandi do personal > > recommendations? Another good site for holistic/homeopathic care > > is > > Darla's: http://www.kitsnk9s.com/NatCAREHome.htm > > > > Sandi has diatomaceous earth for sale on her website. I think I'm > > going > > to try using it for my feral colonies, (on the ground, not in their > > food, I didn't even know it was ingestible). We're having a > > terrible > > time with fleas this year and I'm hoping it might help. I've heard > > of > > it before, but I'd forgotten about it. Phaewryn has posted about > > it > > before. I can't remember if there's any down side to it. Does > > anyone > > know if there are special precautions for using it? I guess I > > better > > Google it! > > Nina > > > > Carla Shoppe wrote: > > > > >Nina > > > > > >Hi go to my website www.pawsnj.petfinder.com > > >I have on the left hand side it has "links" click on and it > > >will bring you to my link for Holistic pets supplies to Sandi's > > >site. I > > >get my Austrailian > > >Flowers from her she is nice and her prices are fair, she will > > >mix what ever you need I have used her for a few years and love > > >her service. > > > > > >You can email her tell her I recommanded her and she can mix up > > >FE also to suit > > >your purposes! > > > > > >Carla > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. > http://www.nod32.com > > >
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Thanks Carla, I bookmarked yours and Sandi's sites. Thank you for all you and your friends are doing for the animals. Does Sandi do personal recommendations? Another good site for holistic/homeopathic care is Darla's: http://www.kitsnk9s.com/NatCAREHome.htm Sandi has diatomaceous earth for sale on her website. I think I'm going to try using it for my feral colonies, (on the ground, not in their food, I didn't even know it was ingestible). We're having a terrible time with fleas this year and I'm hoping it might help. I've heard of it before, but I'd forgotten about it. Phaewryn has posted about it before. I can't remember if there's any down side to it. Does anyone know if there are special precautions for using it? I guess I better Google it! Nina Carla Shoppe wrote: Nina Hi go to my website www.pawsnj.petfinder.com I have on the left hand side it has "links" click on and it will bring you to my link for Holistic pets supplies to Sandi's site. I get my Austrailian Flowers from her she is nice and her prices are fair, she will mix what ever you need I have used her for a few years and love her service. You can email her tell her I recommanded her and she can mix up FE also to suit your purposes! Carla
Re: Subject: OT - Flower Essences (diatomaceous earth for flea control)
You really don't want to inhale much of it, but I've used it before on carpets, etc. to kill fleas. Farmers often give the food-grade DE to cattle to kill any intestinal parasites...also works well on fire ants! ;) "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George "The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long..." --Blade Runner - Original Message - From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:56 am Subject: Re: Subject: OT - Flower Essences (diatomaceous earth for flea control) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Thanks Carla, > I bookmarked yours and Sandi's sites. Thank you for all you and > your > friends are doing for the animals. Does Sandi do personal > recommendations? Another good site for holistic/homeopathic care > is > Darla's: http://www.kitsnk9s.com/NatCAREHome.htm > > Sandi has diatomaceous earth for sale on her website. I think I'm > going > to try using it for my feral colonies, (on the ground, not in their > food, I didn't even know it was ingestible). We're having a > terrible > time with fleas this year and I'm hoping it might help. I've heard > of > it before, but I'd forgotten about it. Phaewryn has posted about > it > before. I can't remember if there's any down side to it. Does > anyone > know if there are special precautions for using it? I guess I > better > Google it! > Nina > > Carla Shoppe wrote: > > >Nina > > > >Hi go to my website www.pawsnj.petfinder.com > >I have on the left hand side it has "links" click on and it > >will bring you to my link for Holistic pets supplies to Sandi's > >site. I > >get my Austrailian > >Flowers from her she is nice and her prices are fair, she will > >mix what ever you need I have used her for a few years and love > >her service. > > > >You can email her tell her I recommanded her and she can mix up > >FE also to suit > >your purposes! > > > >Carla > > > > > >
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Thanks Jen, I had heard about not inhaling it... I think that caution was why I didn't try it for my ferals before. Maybe I'll post to the feral group and see if anyone's used it and what their experience has been. N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You really don't want to inhale much of it, but I've used it before on carpets, etc. to kill fleas. Farmers often give the food-grade DE to cattle to kill any intestinal parasites...also works well on fire ants! ;)
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I think that precaution only applies to when you are actually applying the stuff! It's dusty, but quickly settles...heck, I've even doused a few cats with it with no ill effect...as long as you get the agricultural grade (not swimming pool grade) DE, it's okay for the cats to ingest it! "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George "The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long..." --Blade Runner
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Thanks Jen! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that precaution only applies to when you are actually applying the stuff! It's dusty, but quickly settles...heck, I've even doused a few cats with it with no ill effect...as long as you get the agricultural grade (not swimming pool grade) DE, it's okay for the cats to ingest it!
