RE: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo
I would wait at least 9 or 10 months of after --- even to a year ideally again I am very conservatives when coming to these things, so others may think I worry too much. But losing my suzi to spaying surgery, and knowing the fact that spaying/neutering could trigger certain underlying illness, I wanted to make sure that their immune system are as matured as it can be.. There is really nothing so bad to their body if they go on heat once it will last a couple of weeks, but then it does not do any damage to their body.. the stress they go through heat cycle is much much less than stress go through form the surgery.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WN Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo Hi Hideyo, How old do you think Pippin should be before I get her spayed? She will be 7 months old on the 25th of this month. I don'twant to rush her, but I didn't know if I should do it before she starts going into heat? Your advice is very much appreciated :) Gina Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would personally recommend that you wait to spay her for a little longer I dont know how long she is.. but unless its absolutely critical she does (i.e. she is pregnant already), I really need to ask you to wait for a several different reasons.. especially, now she is tested negative for the test. and if you still go ahead and do it, please let me know, I have some tips to give it to you so the stress is reduced.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WN Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying Pippin tested negative on her IFA test for FeLV and FIV. We waited 22 weeks between the first test (ELISA) test and the IFA. The vet says shefeels confident in the resultsforseveral reasons: becausePippin was 7 weeks old when she had her first test and she was a faint positive on the ELISA at that time, and because we waited for5 months to retest her. I asked if there was a chance it had gone to the bone marrow and she felt that it was very unlikely. Shouldwe be celebrating?! :) At any rate, the next step is for Pippin to be spayed. She will be getting the pre-lab work done, fluids during the spay and pain medication. Is there anything else I should ask for? I recall something about a certain anesthetic that is preferable. What is the name of it? After the spay whatcan I do to make her more comfortable? She tends to be hyper-active (as kittens are! lol) so I was thinking of having her stay in our room for the first day or so, so she won't run around the house in her usual 120 mph fashion. Or would it be better for her tostay in her crate? Any suggestions would be appreciated :) Thank you! Gina Visit my Tigger Tales site! See my cats' gallery at Zazzle Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Visit my Tigger Tales site! See my cats' gallery at Zazzle Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo
OMG I have to DISAGREE. read this months cat fancy spay before the first heat reduces the risk of some cancers by 91 % Some studies also show the heat is more stressful than the spay Inderstand if you lose one its harder but I am over 1000 now and only lost one in all this time -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo I would wait at least 9 or 10 months of after --- even to a year ideally – again I am very conservatives when coming to these things, so others may think I worry too much. But losing my suzi to spaying surgery, and knowing the fact that spaying/neutering could trigger certain underlying illness, I wanted to make sure that their immune system are as matured as it can be.. There is really nothing so bad to their body if they go on heat once – it will last a couple of weeks, but then it does not do any damage to their body.. the stress they go through heat cycle is much much less than stress go through form the surgery.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WN Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo Hi Hideyo, How old do you think Pippin should be before I get her spayed? She will be 7 months old on the 25th of this month. I don'twant to rush her, but I didn't know if I should do it before she starts going into heat? Your advice is very much appreciated :) Gina Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would personally recommend that you wait to spay her for a little longer – I don’t know how long she is.. but unless it’s absolutely critical she does (i.e. she is pregnant already), I really need to ask you to wait for a several different reasons.. especially, now she is tested negative for the test. – and if you still go ahead and do it, please let me know, I have some tips to give it to you so the stress is reduced.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WN Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying Pippin tested negative on her IFA test for FeLV and FIV. We waited 22 weeks between the first test (ELISA) test and the IFA. The vet says shefeels confident in the resultsforseveral reasons: becausePippin was 7 weeks old when she had her first test and she was a faint positive on the ELISA at that time, and because we waited for5 months to retest her. I asked if there was a chance it had gone to the bone marrow and she felt that it was very unlikely. Shouldwe be celebrating?! :) At any rate, the next step is for Pippin to be spayed. She will be getting the pre-lab work done, fluids during the spay and pain medication. Is there anything else I should ask for? I recall something about a certain anesthetic that is preferable. What is the name of it? After the spay whatcan I do to make her more comfortable? She tends to be hyper-active (as kittens are! lol) so I was thinking of having her stay in our room for the first day or so, so she won't run around the house in her usual 120 mph fashion. Or would it be better for her tostay in her crate? Any suggestions would be appreciated :) Thank you! Gina Visit my Tigger Tales site! See my cats' gallery at Zazzle Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Visit my Tigger Tales site! See my cats' gallery at Zazzle Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
RE: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo
Again, I dont expect everyone to agree with me I have done the same thing to all my cats and none of my cats has ever cancer --- I dont want to talk about it in terms of statistics because my cats are not just numbers there was 1/500,000 chance that cats die from reaction from the anesthesia.. statistically, the risk is very small you would never think that it would happen to your cat and neither did I until it happened.. but when it happens to you cat,, statistics does not mean anything. Again, I am very conservative.. I just lost 4 cats to certain illness so I never underestimated the stress induced illness.. More likely than the cat, your kitty is going to be just fine right after the surgery,, what I am concerned about more is about long term stress induced illness the incidence of FIP happens more often after spaying/neutering surgery I have seen the posts more than a few times, that someone lost their Felk kitties a couple of months after the spaying/neutering surgery --- statistically, the risk is low.. but I dont rely statistics All I am saying is that she just shook the felk virus off from her body and give the body chance to build her immune system a bit longer before adding another stress.. Its personally choice, but I felt that I needed to explain my view -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo OMG I have to DISAGREE. read this months cat fancy spay before the first heat reduces the risk of some cancers by 91 % Some studies also show the heat is more stressful than the spay Inderstand if you lose one its harder but I am over 1000 now and only lost one in all this time -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo I would wait at least 9 or 10 months of after --- even to a year ideally again I am very conservatives when coming to these things, so others may think I worry too much. But losing my suzi to spaying surgery, and knowing the fact that spaying/neutering could trigger certain underlying illness, I wanted to make sure that their immune system are as matured as it can be.. There is really nothing so bad to their body if they go on heat once it will last a couple of weeks, but then it does not do any damage to their body.. the stress they go through heat cycle is much much less than stress go through form the surgery.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WN Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo Hi Hideyo, How old do you think Pippin should be before I get her spayed? She will be 7 months old on the 25th of this month. I don'twant to rush her, but I didn't know if I should do it before she starts going into heat? Your advice is very much appreciated :) Gina Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would personally recommend that you wait to spay her for a little longer I dont know how long she is.. but unless its absolutely critical she does (i.e. she is pregnant already), I really need to ask you to wait for a several different reasons.. especially, now she is tested negative for the test. and if you still go ahead and do it, please let me know, I have some tips to give it to you so the stress is reduced.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WN Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying Pippin tested negative on her IFA test for FeLV and FIV. We waited 22 weeks between the first test (ELISA) test and the IFA. The vet says shefeels confident in the resultsforseveral reasons: becausePippin was 7 weeks old when she had her first test and she was a faint positive on the ELISA at that time, and because we waited for5 months to retest her. I asked if there was a chance it had gone to the bone marrow and she felt that it was very unlikely. Shouldwe be celebrating?! :) At any rate, the next step is for Pippin to be spayed. She will be getting the pre-lab work done, fluids during the spay and pain medication. Is there anything else I should ask for? I recall something about a certain anesthetic that is preferable. What is the name of it? After the spay whatcan I do to make her more comfortable? She tends to be hyper-active
Re: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo
I just read the article! Now I am concerned that I waited too long to have her spayed. She will be 7 months on November 25th and I assume she could go into heat at any time :(Gina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:OMG I have to DISAGREE. read this months cat fancy spay before the first heat reduces the risk of some cancers by 91 % Some studies also show the heat is more stressful than the spay Inderstand if you lose one its harder but I am over 1000 now and only lost one in all this time -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:47 PMSubject: RE: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo I would wait at least 9 or 10 months of after --- even to a year ideally â again I am very conservatives when coming to these things, so others may think I worry too much. But losing my suzi to spaying surgery, and knowing the fact that spaying/neutering could trigger certain underlying illness, I wanted to make sure that their immune system are as matured as it can be..There is really nothing so bad to their body if they go on heat once â it will last a couple of weeks, but then it does not do any damage to their body.. the stress they go through heat cycle is much much less than stress go through form the surgery..From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WNSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:43 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo Hi Hideyo,How old do you think Pippin should be before I get her spayed? She will be 7 months old on the 25th of this month. I don'twant to rush her, but I didn't know if I should do it before she starts going into heat? Your advice is very much appreciated :)GinaHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would personally recommend that you wait to spay her for a little longer â I donât know how long she is.. but unless itâs absolutely critical she does (i.e. she is pregnant already), I really need to ask you to wait for a several different reasons.. especially, now she is tested negative for the test. â and if you still go ahead and do it, please let me know, I have some tips to give it to you so the stress is reduced..From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WNSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:05 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying Pippin tested negative on her IFA test for FeLV and FIV. We waited 22 weeks between the first test (ELISA) test and the IFA. The vet says shefeels confident in the resultsforseveral reasons: becausePippin was 7 weeks old when she had her first test and she was a faint positive on the ELISA at that time, and because we waited for5 months to retest her. I asked if there was a chance it had gone to the bone marrow and she felt that it was very unlikely. Shouldwe be celebrating?! :)At any rate, the next step is for Pippin to be spayed. She will be getting the pre-lab work done, fluids during the spay and pain medication. Is there anything else I should ask for? I recall something about a certain anesthetic that is preferable. What is the name of it?After the spay whatcan I do to make her more comfortable? She tends to be hyper-active (as kittens are! lol) so I was thinking of having her stay in our room for the first day or so, so she won't run around the house in her usual 120 mph fashion. Or would it be better for her tostay in her crate?Any suggestions would be appreciated :)Thank you! Gina Visit my Tigger Tales site! See my cats' gallery at Zazzle Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Visit my Tigger Tales site! See my cats' gallery at Zazzle Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.Visit my Tigger Tales site! See my cats' gallery at Zazzle Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.
RE: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying
There is a newer type of anesthesia called, Sevoflorane even safer than ISO, I haven't personally used it, but it's supposed to be safer - ask your vet about it. And ask you can drop her off right before the surgery and pick her up as soon as she wakes, and that's what I do with all my cats so that they won't get stressed out being the clinic -- also, I would recommend that you do total body function to make sure that all blood work comes back normal, her organs, PCV level, etc.. so that you can avoid to do if you see anything unusual -- I definitely recommend this prior to the surgery. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying Gina, Congrats on the negative test!!! Yea!!! I think the anesthetic you are talking about is ISO gas, but someone here might correct me. Also, fluids before, during, and after the spay more specifically. The vet will tell you to confine her for a few days, so your room might be a great idea. It's softer than the bathroom. Unless she's acting like a wild woman after you let her out of her crate into your room, she should be fine out of the crate. If not, you'll have to put her back in. She'll probably sleep a lot the first day home anyway. It takes time for any anesthesia to get totally out of the system. Good luck!!! :) Wendy Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
Re: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo
Hi Gina I am going out on a limb with this answer, but generally a cat will not go into heat at this time of year bc the kittens would be born in the winter. I have safely waited until January no later than early February to spay kittens that were born the previous spring. They did not go into heat before the spaying. If you are concerned though I would schedule her appointment at your earliest convenience. Hope this helps...sally At 11:10 AM 11/9/2006 -0800, you wrote: I just read the article! Now I am concerned that I waited too long to have her spayed. She will be 7 months on November 25th and I assume she could go into heat at any time :( Gina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OMG I have to DISAGREE. read this months cat fancy spay before the first heat reduces the risk of some cancers by 91 % Some studies also show the heat is more stressful than the spay Inderstand if you lose one its harder but I am over 1000 now and only lost one in all this time -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo I would wait at least 9 or 10 months of after --- even to a year ideally â again I am very conservatives when coming to these things, so others may think I worry too much. But losing my suzi to spaying surgery, and knowing the fact that spaying/neutering could trigger certain underlying illness, I wanted to make sure that their immune system are as matured as it can be.. There is really nothing so bad to their body if they go on heat once â it will last a couple of weeks, but then it does not do any damage to their body.. the stress they go through heat cycle is much much less than stress go through form the surgery.. -- I would personally recommend that you wait to spay her for a little longer â I donât know how long she is.. but unless itâs absolutely critical she does (i.e. she is pregnant already), I really need to ask you to wait for a several different reasons.. especially, now she is tested negative for the test. â and if you still go ahead and do it, please let me know, I have some tips to give it to you so the stress is reduced.. Pippin tested negative on her IFA test for FeLV and FIV. We waited 22 weeks between the first test (ELISA) test and the IFA. The vet says she feels confident in the results for several reasons: because Pippin was 7 weeks old when she had her first test and she was a faint positive on the ELISA at that time, and because we waited for 5 months to retest her. I asked if there was a chance it had gone to the bone marrow and she felt that it was very unlikely. Should we be celebrating?! :) At any rate, the next step is for Pippin to be spayed. She will be getting the pre-lab work done, fluids during the spay and pain medication. Is there anything else I should ask for? I recall something about a certain anesthetic that is preferable. What is the name of it? After the spay what can I do to make her more comfortable? She tends to be hyper-active (as kittens are! lol) so I was thinking of having her stay in our room for the first day or so, so she won't run around the house in her usual 120 mph fashion. Or would it be better for her to stay in her crate? Any suggestions would be appreciated :) Thank you! Gina Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Visit my http://tiggerwiggins.com/Tigger Tales site! http://www.zazzle.com/tiggerwiggins*See my cats' gallery at Zazzle Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. -- http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2FnewaolCheck out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Visit my http://tiggerwiggins.com/Tigger Tales site! http://www.zazzle.com/tiggerwiggins*See my cats' gallery at Zazzle Want to start your own business? Learn how on http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=41244/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-indexYahoo! Small Business. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.0/524 - Release Date: 11/8/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.0/524 - Release Date: 11/8/2006
RE: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying
Hooray Pippin! Congratulations on the negative test! Beth Original message: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test for FeLV and FIV. We waited 22 weeks between the first test (ELISA) test and the IFA. The vet says shefeels confident in the resultsforseveral reasons: becausePippin was 7 weeks old when she had her first test and she was a faint positive on the ELISA at that time, and because we waited for5 months to retest her. I asked if there was a chance it had gone to the bone marrow and she felt that it was very unlikely. Shouldwe be celebrating?! :) At any rate, the next step is for Pippin to be spayed. She will be getting the pre-lab work done, fluids during the spay and pain medication. Is there anything else I should ask for? I recall something about a certain anesthetic that is preferable. What is the name of it?