Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle




Lucy has always been really fussy about food, and will not eat anything 
mixed with anything else, even if she would eat both separate. And she doesn't 
eat wet or dry food (she never liked wet and dry makes her sick now). The only 
thing she can eat is her raw diet or cooked turkey or duck. I have tried mixing 
the baby food with the raw and she looks at me like I am insane. Good suggestion 
though!
 
My mom found some Beechnut at the supermarket near her, so I am going to 
get it and try mixing the two baby foods together, at least, to try to minimize 
the amount of corn starch she gets. She is eating some cooked turkey also, just 
ate a few pieces now, but she doesn't eat that much of it. Baby food is the only 
thing that really gets her going. She does seem to have gained an ounce or two 
since the other day though, knock on wood.
 
Thanks,
Michelle
 
 
In a message dated 7/15/2006 2:35:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
    Michelle,   Maybe try mixing the baby food with her 
  regular food and slowly phase it out so she is eating only her regular 
  food.  I'm currently phasing out the Fancy Feast and getting my guys 
  on a better food.  Then we work on phasing out the dry   
  :)  Cody is getting bigger and bigger.

 


Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-15 Thread Belinda

   Michelle,
  Maybe try mixing the baby food with her regular food and slowly phase 
it out so she is eating only her regular food.  I'm currently phasing 
out the Fancy Feast and getting my guys on a better food.  Then we work 
on phasing out the dry   :)  Cody is getting bigger and bigger.


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Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle




Thanks, Kerry. Actually, her stools seem pretty normal now, just a bit soft 
but that could be because I gave her a lot of rice bran yesterday mixed in with 
her baby food.  She is back on 10 mg/day of pred. I am not really worried 
about keeping her on that for a while. It's more that I am worried as to why she 
needs it. It could just be IBD, or it could be lymphoma, and the latter requires 
leukeran as well as pred, I think.  This morning she ate a little raw food 
and a handful of cooked duck, then 1.5 jars of turkey baby food with supplements 
and bran mixed in. She is on a baby food kick and acts like she is not that 
hungry until I give her the baby food and then she gobbles it voraciously.  
Unfortunately it gives her gas, which then makes her uncomfortable and sort of 
lethargic for a few hours afterwards.  It has already put a little weight 
back on her, though, and I at least know she is eating enough, and she is not 
getting diarrhea, so I guess I will keep giving it to her if that is what she 
wants to eat, unless or until she will eat enough or something else. I have an 
internist aptmt scheduled for Monday. If she is relatively ok I may try to 
switch it back to Wed for work-related reasons. 
 
Benebac seems to give Lucy diarrhea. I think it may be cultured in lactose, 
and she seems to be lactose-intolerant. She does better with kyadophilus, which 
I was using in Nina's turkey mush recipe for the past couple of weeks until Lucy 
stopped eating it a few days ago. Maybe I will put some in her baby food 
tonight, or whatever she eats.
 
Thanks again,
Michelle
 
In a message dated 7/15/2006 5:36:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi Michelle,
  I hope Lucy is feeling better today..I sure don't know what to do cause 
  what works for Inky doesn't seem to work for Lucy.  Have you tried adding 
  bene-bac?  I gave Inky some when he had loose stool and Bandy, 
too..
  The bran isn't working either I take it...
  I know my lymphoma kitty was on 20mg of pred for 9 months or so..actually 
  the rest of her life..I had another kitty on that much pred for 3 yrs...she 
  had a tumor on the back side of her tongue and the pred would keep the 
  inflammation down so she could eat...She had all the side effects that people 
  get on high dose steroids, but that was the only way to keep her comfortable 
  and she was until the last few days..
  Have you checked her for hyperT?  I know some of Inky's troubles was 
  that along with the IBD.  Inky is so skinny, but eats ok and only has 1 
  stool per day..I gave him astragalus, too.  I think that might have been 
  for the hyperT though..I am trying to rack my brain as what you could 
  try...
  Anyway, you 2 are in our thoughts and prayers.
  Kerry and Bandy

 


Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-15 Thread Kerry Roach
Hi Michelle,  I hope Lucy is feeling better today..I sure don't know what to do cause what works for Inky doesn't seem to work for Lucy.  Have you tried adding bene-bac?  I gave Inky some when he had loose stool and Bandy, too..  The bran isn't working either I take it...  I know my lymphoma kitty was on 20mg of pred for 9 months or so..actually the rest of her life..I had another kitty on that much pred for 3 yrs...she had a tumor on the back side of her tongue and the pred would keep the inflammation down so she could eat...She had all the side effects that people get on high dose steroids, but that was the only way to keep her comfortable and she was until the last few days..  Have you checked her for hyperT?  I know some of Inky's troubles was that along with the IBD.  Inky is so skinny, but eats ok and only has 1 stool per day..I gave him astragalus, too.  I think that might have been for the
 hyperT though..I am trying to rack my brain as what you could try...  Anyway, you 2 are in our thoughts and prayers.  Kerry and Bandy 
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Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-14 Thread Belinda
   I hadn't heard that, so I'll keep it in mind, it comes up on the 
lymphoma list sometimes.


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Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-14 Thread Lernermichelle




actually, more recent studies have shown that this is true for dogs but not 
for cats.  However, you are right that it would make it harder to 
detect.
 
In a message dated 7/14/2006 2:04:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
if chemo 
  is an option you want to consider, being on pred for a long time can make 
  the chemo less effective. 

 


Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-14 Thread Belinda
  It's possible that she is constipated, especially if it's happened 
before it may be a concern.   The only bad thing with pred is if there 
is any suspicion at all that there may be lymphoma, the longer they are 
on pred the harder lymphoma may be to detect and if chemo is an option 
you want to consider, being on pred for a long time can make the chemo 
less effective.  It may be a good idea to have her checked both for the 
constipation and lymphoma.  I'm not saying this to scare you so don't 
get worried, but if she is having a recurring problem with constipation 
you may want to make sure there isn't a mass in her intestines blocking 
her.  I'll pray its just IBD (still not very pleasant) and upset tummy.  
My vet was showing me how to palpitate their intestines and they should 
feel slippery and smooth, not lumpy or thick.  It's been a while ago so 
I don't remember exactly how I did it, but I do remember they felt like 
she described.  I think Joey was my guinea pig!


I also have heard that sometimes with extreme cases of IBD that don't 
seem to respond well to pred alone they do put them on leukeran too.


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Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-14 Thread Nina




Hi Michelle,
You know my prayers and thoughts are always with you and Lucy.  We've
talked about this so many times...  Her symptoms are so much like
Gypsy's (the way she bounces back from flare ups and then has problems
again), my intuition is telling me that she has a wicked case of IBD
and not lymphoma, but of course my intuition is not to be trusted when
that's what I've been hoping and praying for all along.  I think it's
time you kept that appointment.  You're having almost as hard a time
not knowing as you are with dealing with her symptoms.  If you could
get some fairly conclusive results indicating what the heck is going
on, one way or the other, I think it would be beneficial.  At least you
wouldn't beat yourself up for hesitating.  You know how much I hate
stressing kitties out with vet visits, but you really need to know
what's going on, for your sanity and Lucy's well being too.  Sending
you love and encouragement,
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  
  Thanks so much, Belinda.  I think it is very possible that
Lucy's IBD has just gotten worse, that the pred made her better, and
that I weaned her too fast.  I hope that is the case, and that she gets
better.  I really don't want to take her for all sorts of tests, or to
put her on leukeran if she does not need it.  I am just also worried
that she may have developed intestinal lymphoma, being both FeLV+ and
having IBD-- both of which make them prone to intestinal lymphoma, and
so am worried that if I keep waiting and it is lymphoma I will not
catch it in time. I really do not know what to do. I made 2
appointments in the past 2 weeks and canceled them both when she was
better, now I made another one for Monday.  I hate to stress her with
the drive (she hates it) and vet visits if it really is just IBD and I
can keep her stable on pred.  What do you think I should do, Belinda?
   
  Today, between the jar of baby food she ate and the random
pieces of turkey she ate for me, and the couple fingerfuls of raw I
stuck in her mouth, she has certainly eaten enough for breakfast. She
went outside and ran around for a few hours, washed herself, and slept
in the sun, then came in and I think wanted more baby food (I need to
get more). She has not gone again, so it has been over 12 hours since
her last bowel.  It is possible that she is actually constipated,
rather than having diarrhea, because the diarrhea I found yesterday was
a relatiely small amount with a solid bowel in the middle, and then she
had a tiny bit more liquid later, and when this happened 2 weeks ago I
think she was constipated.  I don't know.  I really waver back and
forth between thinking I should take her in and thinking I shouldn't.
If she does not starting being more interested in non-baby food by
MOnday I will definitely take her.  It is if she improves again that I
don't know.  I would love to know your opinion, Belinda.
   
  Thanks,
  Michelle
  
  




Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-14 Thread wendy
Michelle,

Prayers going out for little Lucy as well as you. 
Please keep us posted, especially after she sees the
internist.

:)
Wendy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Lucy was doing better, getting over her IBD flare-up
> I thought; but I  
> tapered her down to 5 mg/day of pred yesterday (did
> 10 for a week, then 7.5 for  4 
> days, then 5 starting yesterday) and today she is
> worse-- some diarrhea with  
> some blood, less interest in food, and under 8
> pounds for the first time.   I 
> put her back on 10 mg pred today and cooked her
> something new (duck) which I  
> am now afraid will mess her up even more. I made
> another appointment (canceled  
> the last one) with the internist in Red Bank, 1.5
> hours away, for next  
> Wednesday.  I was going to try to take her tomorrow,
> but my mom has  convinced me 
> thus far to wait and see if she gets better again
> from the pred and  not take 
> her if she does. I don't know. I fear intestinal
> lymphoma. I feared it  when 
> she first flared up 2 weeks ago, but then after 3
> days on 10 mg/day of pred  and 
> eating just turkey her diarrhea totally went away
> and she even got  
> constipated from lack of fiber, and I figured that
> was unlikely to happen with  
> lymphoma and more likely to be a flare-up of IBD.
> But now I don't know. She has  
> never needed to be on so much pred for more than a
> few days before, and she has  
> never lost so much weight (though she also has never
> been on an entirely 
> protein  diet before either).  If she does not have
> lymphoma, her IBD has gotten  
> much worse than it was.  I am very depressed by
> this. If you can spare her  some 
> good thoughts and prayers, I would appreciate it.
> Thanks,
> Michelle
> 


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Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-14 Thread Lernermichelle




Thanks so much, Belinda.  I think it is very possible that Lucy's IBD 
has just gotten worse, that the pred made her better, and that I weaned her too 
fast.  I hope that is the case, and that she gets better.  I really 
don't want to take her for all sorts of tests, or to put her on leukeran if she 
does not need it.  I am just also worried that she may have developed 
intestinal lymphoma, being both FeLV+ and having IBD-- both of which make them 
prone to intestinal lymphoma, and so am worried that if I keep waiting and it is 
lymphoma I will not catch it in time. I really do not know what to do. I made 2 
appointments in the past 2 weeks and canceled them both when she was better, now 
I made another one for Monday.  I hate to stress her with the drive (she 
hates it) and vet visits if it really is just IBD and I can keep her stable on 
pred.  What do you think I should do, Belinda?
 
Today, between the jar of baby food she ate and the random pieces of turkey 
she ate for me, and the couple fingerfuls of raw I stuck in her mouth, she has 
certainly eaten enough for breakfast. She went outside and ran around for a few 
hours, washed herself, and slept in the sun, then came in and I think wanted 
more baby food (I need to get more). She has not gone again, so it has been over 
12 hours since her last bowel.  It is possible that she is actually 
constipated, rather than having diarrhea, because the diarrhea I found yesterday 
was a relatiely small amount with a solid bowel in the middle, and then she had 
a tiny bit more liquid later, and when this happened 2 weeks ago I think she was 
constipated.  I don't know.  I really waver back and forth between 
thinking I should take her in and thinking I shouldn't. If she does not starting 
being more interested in non-baby food by MOnday I will definitely take 
her.  It is if she improves again that I don't know.  I would love to 
know your opinion, Belinda.
 
Thanks,
Michelle
 
In a message dated 7/14/2006 9:01:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
    Michelle,   I have a friend who's kitty had bad IBD same 
  as Lucy, they also had to have her on pred as she got very bad without 
  it.  The doctors had given up on her at some point but my never did 
  and finally got her stabalized, she has been on pred for over 7 years and 
  is doing great.  I think her dose started at about 20mg (she couldn't 
  tolerate that, she was very lethargic and slept all the time so the 
  lowered it to 10, she did better on that), they very, very slowly weaned 
  her down to the 2.5mgs over about a year's time.  Once she was stable 
  and doing good on the 10mgs (she was on this for a couple of months), they 
  lowered it to 7.5mgs for a few months, then down to 5mgs, she was on this 
  for probably 5 months, then they lowered her to 2.5mgs, so far she is OK 
  on that.  She does have to up it on occasion when she has a flare up, 
  but that doesn't happen very often.  She is 16 years old now and back 
  when she first started the pred, the doctors had pretty much given up on 
  her, her IBD was so bad, they had been syringe feeding her for 6 or 7 
  months, my friend had decided to take her in and euthanize her, she was 
  down to 5 pounds, skin and bones.  That day (the day she was taking 
  her in), she came down stairs and started eating.  And that was 7 
  years ago!!Just wanted to give you a story with a good 
  outcome.

 


Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-14 Thread TatorBunz


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Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-14 Thread Belinda
  Lots of prayers for Lucy to get stable and be able to live in harmony 
with her sensitive tummy.


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Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-14 Thread Belinda

   Michelle,
  I have a friend who's kitty had bad IBD same as Lucy, they also had 
to have her on pred as she got very bad without it.  The doctors had 
given up on her at some point but my never did and finally got her 
stabalized, she has been on pred for over 7 years and is doing great.  I 
think her dose started at about 20mg (she couldn't tolerate that, she 
was very lethargic and slept all the time so the lowered it to 10, she 
did better on that), they very, very slowly weaned her down to the 
2.5mgs over about a year's time.  Once she was stable and doing good on 
the 10mgs (she was on this for a couple of months), they lowered it to 
7.5mgs for a few months, then down to 5mgs, she was on this for probably 
5 months, then they lowered her to 2.5mgs, so far she is OK on that.  
She does have to up it on occasion when she has a flare up, but that 
doesn't happen very often.  She is 16 years old now and back when she 
first started the pred, the doctors had pretty much given up on her, her 
IBD was so bad, they had been syringe feeding her for 6 or 7 months, my 
friend had decided to take her in and euthanize her, she was down to 5 
pounds, skin and bones.  That day (the day she was taking her in), she 
came down stairs and started eating.  And that was 7 years ago!!


Just wanted to give you a story with a good outcome.

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Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-14 Thread Lernermichelle




The soonest internist appointment I could get is for Monday morning, so I 
made that.  They said I can bring her to the ER, but I do not see the point 
in that, since they would  not be able to do what is necessary to diagnose 
her anyway.  I gave her fluids last night, put her back on full set of meds 
minus the metronidazole for now (pred, pepcid, reglan), and I can get food into 
her if necessary. She ate a few bites of raw, a few bites of cooked turkey, 
and she ate all the baby food I gave her.  Thus far I am afraid to give her 
more than a few spoonfuls of baby food. When she wouldn't eat anything else 2 
weeks ago I gave her 1.5 jars of baby food, and she had liquid diarrhea from it 
for a day, so I am afraid of doing that. If she won't eat anything else today, 
not sure whether I should force-feed her something that's good for her (like her 
raw diet, which I can just stick in her mouth and she'll swallow it without much 
fuss) or give her the baby food which gives her diarrhea but she will eat it 
herself...
Michelle
 
In a message dated 7/13/2006 11:28:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Lucy was doing better, getting over her IBD flare-up I thought; but I 
  tapered her down to 5 mg/day of pred yesterday (did 10 for a week, then 7.5 
  for 4 days, then 5 starting yesterday) and today she is worse-- some diarrhea 
  with some blood, less interest in food, and under 8 pounds for the first 
  time.  I put her back on 10 mg pred today and cooked her something new 
  (duck) which I am now afraid will mess her up even more. I made another 
  appointment (canceled the last one) with the internist in Red Bank, 1.5 hours 
  away, for next Wednesday.  I was going to try to take her tomorrow, but 
  my mom has convinced me thus far to wait and see if she gets better again from 
  the pred and not take her if she does. I don't know. I fear intestinal 
  lymphoma. I feared it when she first flared up 2 weeks ago, but then after 3 
  days on 10 mg/day of pred and eating just turkey her diarrhea totally went 
  away and she even got constipated from lack of fiber, and I figured that was 
  unlikely to happen with lymphoma and more likely to be a flare-up of IBD. But 
  now I don't know. She has never needed to be on so much pred for more than a 
  few days before, and she has never lost so much weight (though she also has 
  never been on an entirely protein diet before either).  If she does not 
  have lymphoma, her IBD has gotten much worse than it was.  I am very 
  depressed by this. If you can spare her some good thoughts and prayers, I 
  would appreciate it.
  Thanks,
  Michelle

 


Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-14 Thread moonvine
>From me too...I'm so sorry she isn't doing well.

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, July 14, 2006 7:07 am
Subject: Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

> 
> Good thoughts and prayers going up for you and for Lucy.
> 
> elizabeth
> 
> In a message dated 7/13/2006 8:28:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Lucy was doing better, getting over her IBD flare-up I thought; 
> but I  
> tapered her down to 5 mg/day of pred yesterday (did 10 for a week, 
> then 7.5  for 4 
> days, then 5 starting yesterday) and today she is worse-- some 
> diarrhea  with 
> some blood, less interest in food, and under 8 pounds for the 
> first  time.  I 
> put her back on 10 mg pred today and cooked her something new  
> (duck) which I 
> am now afraid will mess her up even more. I made another  
> appointment (canceled 
> the last one) with the internist in Red Bank, 1.5 hours  away, for 
> next 
> Wednesday.  I was going to try to take her tomorrow, but  my mom 
> has convinced me 
> thus far to wait and see if she gets better again from  the pred 
> and not take 
> her if she does. I don't know. I fear intestinal  lymphoma. I 
> feared it when 
> she first flared up 2 weeks ago, but then after 3  days on 10 
> mg/day of pred and 
> eating just turkey her diarrhea totally went  away and she even 
> got 
> constipated from lack of fiber, and I figured that was  unlikely 
> to happen with 
> lymphoma and more likely to be a flare-up of IBD. But  now I don't 
> know. She has 
> never needed to be on so much pred for more than a  few days 
> before, and she has 
> never lost so much weight (though she also has  never been on an 
> entirely 
> protein diet before either).  If she does not  have lymphoma, her 
> IBD has gotten 
> much worse than it was.  I am very  depressed by this. If you can 
> spare her some 
> good thoughts and prayers, I  would appreciate it.
> Thanks,
> Michelle
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-14 Thread ETrent




Good thoughts and prayers going up for you and for Lucy.
 
elizabeth
 
In a message dated 7/13/2006 8:28:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Lucy was doing better, getting over her IBD flare-up I thought; but I 
  tapered her down to 5 mg/day of pred yesterday (did 10 for a week, then 7.5 
  for 4 days, then 5 starting yesterday) and today she is worse-- some diarrhea 
  with some blood, less interest in food, and under 8 pounds for the first 
  time.  I put her back on 10 mg pred today and cooked her something new 
  (duck) which I am now afraid will mess her up even more. I made another 
  appointment (canceled the last one) with the internist in Red Bank, 1.5 hours 
  away, for next Wednesday.  I was going to try to take her tomorrow, but 
  my mom has convinced me thus far to wait and see if she gets better again from 
  the pred and not take her if she does. I don't know. I fear intestinal 
  lymphoma. I feared it when she first flared up 2 weeks ago, but then after 3 
  days on 10 mg/day of pred and eating just turkey her diarrhea totally went 
  away and she even got constipated from lack of fiber, and I figured that was 
  unlikely to happen with lymphoma and more likely to be a flare-up of IBD. But 
  now I don't know. She has never needed to be on so much pred for more than a 
  few days before, and she has never lost so much weight (though she also has 
  never been on an entirely protein diet before either).  If she does not 
  have lymphoma, her IBD has gotten much worse than it was.  I am very 
  depressed by this. If you can spare her some good thoughts and prayers, I 
  would appreciate it.
  Thanks,
  Michelle

 


RE: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-13 Thread catatonya
Praying for Lucy here as well.     tTracy Weese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Don't wait, get her checked.  One of my negative cats, Puddin'taine, started losing weight last year and I took him in to the vets' and we ran all kinds of tests and everything seemed to be finehe was almost ten and we thought maybe he was just losing a little as some cats dowell, then he began the vomiting and it was  very bad w/dry food so I put him on wet food only which almost eliminated the vomiting...but he began to lose more weight and so..finally an xray which showed suspicious masses and an exploratory surgery which confirmed two areas in the abdomen/intestines.now we are going thru chemo and
 even with a good response, they won't give him more than 6-9 mos unless the cancer goes into remission, which it has not yet although he has improved and gained weight.  I will continue to treat him as long as his quality of life is good, and it is right now, I'm hoping the next sonogram shows the masses shrinking     I wish I had not waited that year-I felt I was doing the right thing and felt like a fool when I kept taking him in saying "something was just not right" and I spent the money on all the blood tests/organ functioning tests/geriatric testsI didn't put a limit on it, but didn't keep going with the xrays/sonograms bec. everything was negative and the switch to wet food did seem to help -- my vets mentioned the xrays/sonograms, but even they did not seem to think we needed to keep going until the weight loss started again after the switch to all wet
 food.     The earlier you know if it is lymphoma the better the outcome may becats do well w/chemo if caught in time.   Have the xray or sonogram or take the step to have the exploratory surgery and biopsy, it will likely give you the answers you need. I'm guessing Lucy is FeLV+ and as I understand it, that will make the fight tougher so the sooner the better.     You have my best wishes for a good outcome for Lucy.     Tracy- Original Message -   From:  
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Sent: 7/13/2006 11:27:16 PM   Subject: Please say a prayer for LucyLucy was doing better, getting over her IBD flare-up I thought; but I tapered her down to 5 mg/day of pred yesterday (did 10 for a week, then 7.5 for 4 days, then 5 starting yesterday) and today she is worse-- some diarrhea with some blood, less interest in food, and under 8 pounds for the first time.  I put her back on 10 mg pred today and cooked her something new (duck) which I am now afraid will mess her up even more. I made another appointment (canceled the last one) with the internist in Red Bank, 1.5 hours away, for next Wednesday.  I was going to try to take
 her tomorrow, but my mom has convinced me thus far to wait and see if she gets better again from the pred and not take her if she does. I don't know. I fear intestinal lymphoma. I feared it when she first flared up 2 weeks ago, but then after 3 days on 10 mg/day of pred and eating just turkey her diarrhea totally went away and she even got constipated from lack of fiber, and I figured that was unlikely to happen with lymphoma and more likely to be a flare-up of IBD. But now I don't know. She has never needed to be on so much pred for more than a few days before, and she has never lost so much weight (though she also has never been on an entirely protein diet before either).  If she does not have lymphoma, her IBD has gotten much worse than it was.  I am very depressed by this. If you can spare her some good thoughts and prayers, I would appreciate it.  Thanks,  Michelle

Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-13 Thread Marylyn



Don't wait.  
 
I am sending lots of prayers.  May all the angels surround you and 
Lucy.  She is a dear little cat who loves you tremendously.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man.  
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  From: 
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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:27 
  PM
  Subject: Please say a prayer for 
  Lucy
  
  Lucy was doing better, getting over her IBD flare-up I thought; but I 
  tapered her down to 5 mg/day of pred yesterday (did 10 for a week, then 7.5 
  for 4 days, then 5 starting yesterday) and today she is worse-- some diarrhea 
  with some blood, less interest in food, and under 8 pounds for the first 
  time.  I put her back on 10 mg pred today and cooked her something new 
  (duck) which I am now afraid will mess her up even more. I made another 
  appointment (canceled the last one) with the internist in Red Bank, 1.5 hours 
  away, for next Wednesday.  I was going to try to take her tomorrow, but 
  my mom has convinced me thus far to wait and see if she gets better again from 
  the pred and not take her if she does. I don't know. I fear intestinal 
  lymphoma. I feared it when she first flared up 2 weeks ago, but then after 3 
  days on 10 mg/day of pred and eating just turkey her diarrhea totally went 
  away and she even got constipated from lack of fiber, and I figured that was 
  unlikely to happen with lymphoma and more likely to be a flare-up of IBD. But 
  now I don't know. She has never needed to be on so much pred for more than a 
  few days before, and she has never lost so much weight (though she also has 
  never been on an entirely protein diet before either).  If she does not 
  have lymphoma, her IBD has gotten much worse than it was.  I am very 
  depressed by this. If you can spare her some good thoughts and prayers, I 
  would appreciate it.
  Thanks,
  Michelle
  
  

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RE: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-13 Thread Tracy Weese



Don't wait, get her checked.  One of my negative cats, Puddin'taine, started losing weight last year and I took him in to the vets' and we ran all kinds of tests and everything seemed to be finehe was almost ten and we thought maybe he was just losing a little as some cats dowell, then he began the vomiting and it was  very bad w/dry food so I put him on wet food only which almost eliminated the vomiting...but he began to lose more weight and so..finally an xray which showed suspicious masses and an exploratory surgery which confirmed two areas in the abdomen/intestines.now we are going thru chemo and even with a good response, they won't give him more than 6-9 mos unless the cancer goes into remission, which it has not yet although he has improved and gained weight.  I will continue to treat him as long as his quality of life is good, and it is right now, I'm hoping the next sonogram shows the masses shrinking
 
I wish I had not waited that year-I felt I was doing the right thing and felt like a fool when I kept taking him in saying "something was just not right" and I spent the money on all the blood tests/organ functioning tests/geriatric testsI didn't put a limit on it, but didn't keep going with the xrays/sonograms bec. everything was negative and the switch to wet food did seem to help -- my vets mentioned the xrays/sonograms, but even they did not seem to think we needed to keep going until the weight loss started again after the switch to all wet food.
 
The earlier you know if it is lymphoma the better the outcome may becats do well w/chemo if caught in time.   Have the xray or sonogram or take the step to have the exploratory surgery and biopsy, it will likely give you the answers you need. I'm guessing Lucy is FeLV+ and as I understand it, that will make the fight tougher so the sooner the better.  
 

You have my best wishes for a good outcome for Lucy.
 
Tracy

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Sent: 7/13/2006 11:27:16 PM 
Subject: Please say a prayer for Lucy

Lucy was doing better, getting over her IBD flare-up I thought; but I tapered her down to 5 mg/day of pred yesterday (did 10 for a week, then 7.5 for 4 days, then 5 starting yesterday) and today she is worse-- some diarrhea with some blood, less interest in food, and under 8 pounds for the first time.  I put her back on 10 mg pred today and cooked her something new (duck) which I am now afraid will mess her up even more. I made another appointment (canceled the last one) with the internist in Red Bank, 1.5 hours away, for next Wednesday.  I was going to try to take her tomorrow, but my mom has convinced me thus far to wait and see if she gets better again from the pred and not take her if she does. I don't know. I fear intestinal lymphoma. I feared it when she first flared up 2 weeks ago, but then after 3 days on 10 mg/day of pred and eating just turkey her diarrhea totally went away and she even got constipated from lack of fiber, and I figured that was unlikely to happen with lymphoma and more likely to be a flare-up of IBD. But now I don't know. She has never needed to be on so much pred for more than a few days before, and she has never lost so much weight (though she also has never been on an entirely protein diet before either).  If she does not have lymphoma, her IBD has gotten much worse than it was.  I am very depressed by this. If you can spare her some good thoughts and prayers, I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Michelle

Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-13 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Michelle,  I will be thinking good thoughts and  sending  prayers for Lucy,  Sherry[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Lucy was doing better, getting over her IBD flare-up I thought; but I tapered her down to 5 mg/day of pred yesterday (did 10 for a week, then 7.5 for 4 days, then 5 starting yesterday) and today she is worse-- some diarrhea with some blood, less interest in food, and under 8 pounds for the first time.  I put her back on 10 mg pred today and cooked her something new (duck) which I am now afraid will mess her up even more. I made another appointment (canceled the last one) with the internist in Red Bank, 1.5 hours away, for next Wednesday.  I was going to try to take her
 tomorrow, but my mom has convinced me thus far to wait and see if she gets better again from the pred and not take her if she does. I don't know. I fear intestinal lymphoma. I feared it when she first flared up 2 weeks ago, but then after 3 days on 10 mg/day of pred and eating just turkey her diarrhea totally went away and she even got constipated from lack of fiber, and I figured that was unlikely to happen with lymphoma and more likely to be a flare-up of IBD. But now I don't know. She has never needed to be on so much pred for more than a few days before, and she has never lost so much weight (though she also has never been on an entirely protein diet before either).  If she does not have lymphoma, her IBD has gotten much worse than it was.  I am very depressed by this. If you can spare her some good thoughts and prayers, I would appreciate it.  Thanks,  Michelle 
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