Re: [Finale] Upgrade from Fin08 to Fin12

2011-12-29 Thread Robert Patterson
What's needed is a proper grid with options for what to show and sorting
with clickable headers. But one might as well wish for a flying car.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Aaron Sherber  wrote:

> On 12/29/2011 10:22 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote:
> > I would NOT want all the description texts clutter the grid view.
>
> But it would be nice as an option, for those who prefer the old
> single-column view with descriptions.
>
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Re: [Finale] Upgrade from Fin08 to Fin12

2011-12-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 12/29/2011 10:22 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote:
> I would NOT want all the description texts clutter the grid view.

But it would be nice as an option, for those who prefer the old 
single-column view with descriptions.

Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] Upgrade from Fin08 to Fin12

2011-12-29 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2011-12-29 16:12, Aaron Sherber wrote:
> On 12/28/2011 11:15 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
>> I see the description text now that you've told me where to look, but it is
>> of limited value since it does not display in the grid.
>
> Yes, I agree.

I would NOT want all the description texts clutter the grid view. But 
mouse-over hint support would be nice.


Best regards,

Jari Williamsson

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Re: [Finale] Upgrade from Fin08 to Fin12

2011-12-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 12/28/2011 11:15 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
> Thanks Aaron. In my (limited) experience, the magnifiers affect only the
> cell size, not the % size of the content. (Boo.)

Well, if the content had been downsized to fit in the cell, the 
magnifier will expand the content by making the cell bigger. It is true 
that there is no way to make the content larger than actual size.

> I see the description text now that you've told me where to look, but it is
> of limited value since it does not display in the grid.

Yes, I agree. Personally, I find categories very useful, but the UI of 
that dialog was not well thought out.

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Re: [Finale] Upgrade from Fin08 to Fin12

2011-12-28 Thread Robert Patterson
Thanks Aaron. In my (limited) experience, the magnifiers affect only the
cell size, not the % size of the content. (Boo.)

I see the description text now that you've told me where to look, but it is
of limited value since it does not display in the grid. You have to know
what to select first. It would have offered only modest help in alleviating
the pain of my specific task.

Obviously, manually sorting the list is a cure worse than the disease.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Aaron Sherber  wrote:

> On 12/28/2011 9:14 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
> > Hello all. I have decided to upgrade to Fin12 from Fin08. What's the most
> > intelligent way to go about converting my default settings?
>
> I used to just open one of my old templates and save with the new
> version, but for the past few years I have bowed to the collective
> wisdom -- I start with one of the new templates and copy over my default
> settings. I often use your Settings Scrapbook for this. It's possible
> that you have many more things customized than I do (like
> artic/expression placement, etc.) and that this method may not be the
> best for you; my customizations are mostly things like spacing, fonts,
> slur settings, etc. which your plugin transfers quite well.
>
>
> > 1. Show expressions in order created (as in every Fin version before
> Fin09)
>
> I don't think so, but you can use the arrow keys on the right hand side
> of the dialog to position things where you want them. Time consuming. It
> would be nice if there were an option to sort by creation time or
> alphabetically (as in TGTools Expression Browser, which I still use
> extensively).
>
> > 2. Change the % size they appear in
>
> I think the expressions always appear either at actual size, or shrunk
> to fit the box. You can make the boxes bigger by expanding the dialog,
> or by clicking the + magnifying glass icon. (Technically, the mag glass
> icons affect the number of columns in the dialog.)
>
> > 3. Display the description text
>
> Works for me -- the description text appears below the expression grid
> and above the various buttons. It's easy to miss, though.
>
> Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] Upgrade from Fin08 to Fin12

2011-12-28 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 12/28/2011 9:14 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
> Hello all. I have decided to upgrade to Fin12 from Fin08. What's the most
> intelligent way to go about converting my default settings?

I used to just open one of my old templates and save with the new 
version, but for the past few years I have bowed to the collective 
wisdom -- I start with one of the new templates and copy over my default 
settings. I often use your Settings Scrapbook for this. It's possible 
that you have many more things customized than I do (like 
artic/expression placement, etc.) and that this method may not be the 
best for you; my customizations are mostly things like spacing, fonts, 
slur settings, etc. which your plugin transfers quite well.


> 1. Show expressions in order created (as in every Fin version before Fin09)

I don't think so, but you can use the arrow keys on the right hand side 
of the dialog to position things where you want them. Time consuming. It 
would be nice if there were an option to sort by creation time or 
alphabetically (as in TGTools Expression Browser, which I still use 
extensively).

> 2. Change the % size they appear in

I think the expressions always appear either at actual size, or shrunk 
to fit the box. You can make the boxes bigger by expanding the dialog, 
or by clicking the + magnifying glass icon. (Technically, the mag glass 
icons affect the number of columns in the dialog.)

> 3. Display the description text

Works for me -- the description text appears below the expression grid 
and above the various buttons. It's easy to miss, though.

Aaron.
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