horse hauler needed
This message is from: "julie finn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello, I was wondering if anyyone will be hauling horses from Northwest Montana to Wyoming or S.D. in the next month. I have a gelding that needs transporting. Please contact me privately. Thank You Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Libby potluck
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is kind of Fjord related as I am looking for the person who brought the wonderful red cabbage dish to the potluck at the Libby show! It was so good and I would really like to get the reciepe. If that person is on the list and is willing to share, please contact me privately at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Barb Lynch Benton City, WA
a small tiny brag
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just have to tell you about my new fjord mare. I have had her not quite a month now. All I am looking for is a quiet, but not dead, steady trail horse in good health. Not too young, not too old, some training but unwilling to pay for what a lot of training is worth. I bought Half Diamond Kristi from Canada and we trucked her from a bit west of Niagara Falls to Connecticut. At first she seemed somewhat difficult because she had been trained but was pretty rusty and she has a very strong personality, not really understanding why it isn't ok to barge on ahead and very used to doing whatever struck her fancy. I had a trainer come out and help me just a bit on lunging, standing for mounting, lateral work, all stuff we are still working on, but Kristi has already caught on to the point she is not so scary to be around. She is the first horse I have owned who is better in the saddle than on the ground. From the get go she has enjoyed the trails. Today we went to the beach, Long Island sound in Connecticut. Lots of hikers and bikers since the weather is still good. She was great, even went into the salt pond area but wasn't too sure about the waves. 2 days before that I rode her in the forestry, and last weekend on a very blustery day my husband rode her while I rode the Morgan. So I am quite the Fjord fan, and I bet a lot of my older friends are going to be watching me and wondering if this is their next horse. She is steady, she is fun and she has a funny personality. By the way, the horses solved the getting together quandry we were having by breaking down 4 very solid oak boards and kicked it all out before I got home from work Monday. No one hurt, and I figure that was their gift to me to not have to watch it. Now they are in together with only minor squabbles. Valerie Pedersen
Re: Rattlesnakes
This message is from: Melinda Springs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- > > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:41:24 -0500 > From: "Brad & Kelly Baird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Rattlesnakes, etc. > > This message is from: "Brad & Kelly Baird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm amazed at the stories I'm hearing, but I'll take them as evidence that > our menagerie approach works. > And the peacocks . . . I'm not sure what the peacocks actually do, but > they're pretty and I wanted them, and now my wife says she likes them after > all. I've been told that you won't have rattlesnakes in your compound if you have peafowl. We tried it on our ranch in eastern Oregon and we never had a rattlesnake appear while the peafowl resided with us. Another method was told to me by a friend of mine. Her grandfather lived in snake country somewhere in Wyoming. The family had no indoor plumbing so had to go out to the "privy" in the back yard. Grandpa would go out first thing in the morning with a big dish of milk. The milk attracted the rattlers which he would then dispatch so the family could safely go to the privy!! Love this foklore. Melinda Springs "Sunny" Sun Valley, Idaho where snow is starting to appear on our peaks
Re: Re:a question on pairs
This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Pat, I have a bit of experience to offer. I had been taking a driving class and was told the same thing. I drove a 4 abreast team of percherons and yes they did take up the whole road!! As we were driving down the dirt road a VERY LARGE grain truck came barreling down the road with no intent of slowing down so it looked. My instructor told me to pull over as much as possible, keep driving the horses and started to wave them off ( I was a bit unglued at the potential problems). I will say that one horse (the one on the truck side) got a bit jumpy but the rest handled it in stride as I told Charlie I was here and talked him through it. I immediately went home and changed my pants !! : - D We also drove single and double and the single was a little more of a challenge when she got excited. I was driving from sun up to sun down all weekend, it was exhausting and an exceptional learning experience. Horses from my experience do feed of eachother and their handlers and that can go either way. I don't think their is a real answer, just preference. I would imagine it has a lot to do with the skill of the driver and the brain of the horse/ horses which is safer. Being a greenie in the driving area I need to have all the confidence in the world in my horse/ horses before I go solo in any situation. The 4 abreast was really cool that's a lot of horse power and they were so willing and forgiving. Roberta - Original Message - From: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 10:05 AM Subject: Re:a question on pairs > This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Thank you to all of you who contacted me regarding pairs for sale, I > collected all of you and gave your info to the buyer. Good luck. > > It got me thinking though ...I've had many people tell me it is actually > EASIER to put together a pair than a single. Training wise. I have never > even driven a pair. > > My questions is this...is it the theory that having two together calms the > other down? > > I've driven single, and have had spooks and runaways and so forth - for > those of you who drive pairs and singles, do you honestly see LESS spooky > reactions and run aways with a pair - because they have each other? > Actually I have never seen a pair runaway. > > Just wondering. > Pat
RE: Upcoming Horse Breed show information
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Roberta, I'm going to have a bunch printed. I am doing the design myself to take to the printer. Once complete, I'll be glad to share the template with anyone. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus 2004. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/friendlyfred98 This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By the way where would anyone get some of those stickers?? Roberta New Prague MN
Re:a question on pairs
This message is from: "Joe Glick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I do believe that pairs have a calming effect on each other. Some people will hitch a young horse with a veteran horse to train them for driving. Personally, I like to start young horses by hitching them single. I feel I can accomplish more, in a shorter period of time, by working with them one on one. Once a horse is trained to drive single, it's a breeze to drive them double. If a horse is originally trained to drive double and then you go to hitch them single, it's almost like trying to teach them a whole new discipline. It seems as though a pair will give important cues to each other. Then when they are split up, those cues are missing. And since I haven't learned horse language yet, I haven't been able to replicate those cues. More than once, have I hitched two horses together that I thought would make an odd pair, and was amazed how well they worked together. Joe Glick Glick Family Farm Gordonville, PA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming Horse Breed show information
This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fred I wish I could come and be there to support and lend a hand. Sounds like you have a good handle on it and should be lots of fun. Can't wait to here the stories. By the way where would anyone get some of those stickers?? Roberta New Prague MN > > RE: Puyallup, WA breed show 9-10 October, > > Fred
Re: Re:a question on pairs
This message is from: "Russ & Laurie Lamb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've driven single, and have had spooks and runaways and so forth - for > those of you who drive pairs and singles, do you honestly see LESS spooky > reactions and run aways with a pair - because they have each other? > Actually I have never seen a pair runaway. The first runaway I ever saw was a pair of Fjords. However, the fjord I sold seems to be happier with company while driving. Laurie Lamb
Re: Re:a question on pairs
This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It got me thinking though ...I've had many people tell me it is actually > EASIER to put together a pair than a single. Training wise. > those of you who drive pairs and singles, do you honestly see LESS spooky > reactions and run aways with a pair - because they have each other? > Actually I have never seen a pair runaway. > > Just wondering. > Pat THAT'S an interesting line of thought Pat. I would imagine that there are as many different answers to your questions as there are as many different Fjord temperament/characters. Then factor in the additional driver's personality and ability besides.. equals varying degrees of success and failure in training either singles or doubles. Kind of sounds like a political response? (it is the season =)) It might be claimed by some that a pair is easier to train, if they use a veteran horse paired with a green horse, one manner of training practice used by some drivers. The seasoned mate is a kind of template for the immature, which does assist the driver in their effort somewhat. While it may be true that a team would have more runaway power in a sense (two horsepower instead of one) it could also be said that a more calm teammate might offset the flight inclination of their partner. These were good questions Pat, but probably the kind that cannot be answered resolutely because of the infinite variables involved. It will be interesting to hear different perspectives however. I asked Gene what he thought and he said, "it all depends.." =)) Ruthie, nw mt
Re: Upcoming Horse Breed show information
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fred: Thanks for keeping us posted with the show information. I'm looking forward to coming. MJ Allen Olympia, WA
Re: Kids and llamas
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/23/2004 9:24:02 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > We don't have any Llamas yet! But, counting all the critters we do have, > we're up to somewhere around 120 pets! But that's really not that bad. > With 10 kids, we're really only averaging 10 pets per capita. > If the kids ever complain about helping with chores, I suggest that we could > always move to a condominium in Manhattan. They do chores. > > Brad, in Wisconsin. > > Hi Brad, I'll have to try that threat with my ten children, I'm glad to hear that we aren't the only insane ones on the list. We have at least that many creatures around here too, with our horses, Fjords, Arabs, Quarabs, minis, Welshs, Friesian cross, Draft cross, llamas, boer goats, and various dogs, and cats. We have the llamas to guard the goats and have found that since we have two of them, they go off by themselves and don't hang out by the goats, so we plan to get rid of one. Any takers? We are in Utah where it is cloudy, and below freezing at night and up in the mid 70s to 80s in the daytime. Tami Pugh
News from Minneapolis
This message is from: "Pasqual, Patricia A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well fall finally blew in yesterday! We'd been having a fine September summer up until then, about our only summer at all this year. Elph and I have been driving on a very regular basis, working particularly on nice bending, and being consistent in gates. I was sorry to miss the Harvest Moon show in Des Moines, but we are starting to doubt the reliability of our truck and are looking for a new (used) one. Until then I am going to have to stay fairly close to home. It's funny how a year ago I was feeling quite confined in where I could drive at the place that I board, but once I got permission to use the "off" pastures my world opened up. The ground is bumpy at times, but my training cart doesn't mind, and it's actually area that Elph is very familiar with. I also located an equestrian facility quite close to the Twin Cities that offers time by the hour in their enormous heated indoor riding ring AND they don't mind carriage driving. Believe me, in a Minnesota winter this can be a really big thing. We have also been doing lots of ground work with a combo Parelli games/clicker, and boy does he get it! I am looking for a beginning Parelli clinic because I have a very thinking kind of horse who wants to play, and I wanttolearnhowtoplaywithhim.Ihavealsofoundanidealtreattouse-tiny,pelleted,carrot-basedtreats.Theyaresortofextrudedcylinders,ahugebagofthemisjust$10,andallthehorsesaremadforthem.WhatcracksmeupthemostiswhenElphislearningsomethingnewandhegoesintothewholelitanyofwhathe'spositiveheknows-backwards,forwards,hips,shoulders-tryingtoarriveattherightthing,anythingtogetthattreat,helookslikehe'sdancing!veryfunny. The rattlesnake stories remind me of what my brother-in-law from FL said while we were hiking through a wooded patch near the city here, that if he was hiking in FL it would look just like this except that he would have to be constantly on guard for alligators, rattlers, copperheads, and water moccasins. Whew! I guess I'll take the mosquitoes and the bitter cold. Happy Fall Fjording! Tish and Elph in Minneapolis
Re: How sad-does anyone know more?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.draftresource.com/chat/messages/4448.html A friend sent this to me this morning, it's the other details.
Open House Invitation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are invited! Open House at Norsk Wood Works Phillip Odden and Else Bigton Barronett, Wisconsin October 2, from 9:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. Fjord horses and Norwegian style wood carvings on display and for sale. Wagon rides. Directions: 715-468-2780 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: I am forwarding this invitation to the list at Phil's request. DeeAnna
Upcoming Horse Breed show information
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RE: Puyallup, WA breed show 9-10 October, We have been informed that we will show our Fjords in the arena, Saturday between 4:00 and 4:30 and again on Sunday between 11:00 AM and noon. We not only have NFHR brochures to hand out, but thanks to Woody Hoopes...we now have PNFPG brochures. I will be taking pictures of visitors hugging our Fjords and giving them a floppy disk with the pictures (for a small fee to cover my cost). Also, thanks to excellent suggestions, we plan to give the people in the pictures a heart (to wear) I HUGGED A FJORD. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus 2004. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/friendlyfred98
Re: Nosy horses
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here in Olympia we don't have rattlers or turtles, but we have had a face full of porcupine quills, Not Fun. MJ Allen Olympia, WA
Re:a question on pairs
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you to all of you who contacted me regarding pairs for sale, I collected all of you and gave your info to the buyer. Good luck. It got me thinking though ...I've had many people tell me it is actually EASIER to put together a pair than a single. Training wise. I have never even driven a pair. My questions is this...is it the theory that having two together calms the other down? I've driven single, and have had spooks and runaways and so forth - for those of you who drive pairs and singles, do you honestly see LESS spooky reactions and run aways with a pair - because they have each other? Actually I have never seen a pair runaway. Just wondering. Pat
Re: a question on pairs
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/24/2004 8:14:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for those of you who drive pairs and singles, do you honestly see LESS spooky reactions and run aways with a pair - because they have each other? Pat: My personal experience is that there isn't much difference. In fact, my normally cool & collected mare will get MORE excited when driven in pair with her sister if her sister gets excited. In other words, something that normally wouldn't bother Taffy by herself WILL get her excited if Emily gets excited about it. With a Pair you also have twice the horse power to control in a sticky situation... And, I have seen runaways with pairs, and it is VERY scary! Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming Horse Breed show information
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/24/2004 8:08:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RE: Puyallup, WA breed show 9-10 October, Good Luck Fred!!! Hope you have as great a time as we OR folks do at our Expo. I'm glad to see those hearts are still getting good use! I still have a photo somewhere of my mare sleeping in her stall with one of those hearts stuck to her nose... I still don't know who put it there, but it was too cute! Have fun with the Expo. Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
horse bites
This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Talking about horse's learning from getting bit. I believe they do. We don't have rattle snakes BUT we have snapping turtles that come up into the pastures and paddocks to lay eggs. We have had a lot of horse's get bit by them, you will see the tip of their nose with a cut on it and I've seen plenty of them being nosey and going to check out that creature on the ground. IT has ONLY been the Fjords that ever get bit. The other horse's in my opinion are not as curious. BUT I have seen that the Fjords only ever seem to get bit once, I think they learn their lesson. IF only they could tell the other's to STAY away. Patti Jo Walter Francis Creek Fjords Two Rivers WI - where we finally got our summer in Sept!!
