Re: "Bad" message....
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve am I "infected" as I see a message here regarding medications with my address Author "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 46-49 Send $20 to: PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
RE: Back on the List
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Welcome back Susan, Judy Phelps and I are also running for the BOD positions. We have both expressed, on this list, the same views that you mentioned in your message. This makes three of the candidates available on this list. Who, and where are the other 4? I heard that there were 7 running for 3 positions. Myself, I'm listening (reading) to what is going on. I intend to keep on listening. When I was the Captain of an aircraft, I listened to my crewand encouraged their ideas and input, then after weighing everything...chose the proper (and safest) action. I've never served on a formal Board of Directors, but directing an 800,000 lb. beast across the skyresponsible for a crew of 17 and 400+ passengers must come close. I earned the crew's respect and trust. I hope to gain the same respect and trust if elected. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus 2004. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/friendlyfred98
Re: The wonderful Ontario Fjord Show
This message is from: "Carol Riviore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello All from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia --- . . . . . and Hi Margaret --- Yes, I did see your young Gjest son, Ironwood Blitzen at the Ontario Fjord show, and the first thing I noticed was his very nice head. It reminded me a whole lot of Gjest's beautiful head. The next thing I noticed was his beautiful, dappled coat. REALLY dappled . . . which is rather unusual in a Fjordhorse, especially this time of year. The next thing I noticed were his nice, short, strong canonbones with long forearm. A perfect arrangement for good movement. -- To tell you the truth, I can't remember how he did in the class. I do remember Bob having some nice things to say about him, particularly that he was a good, strong type, which is VITALLY important in a Fjordhorse. Gjest/Holunder --- Those two stallions are all about strength and substance. Best Regards, Carol Rivoire http://www.beaverdamfarm.com Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet, Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 Tel:(902) 386-2304 Fax:(902) 386-2149 Carole Rivoire, author of THE FJORDHORSE HANDBOOK, only book in English on the Fjord breed, available from Beaver Dam Farm, $36.95 US includes P&H http://www.beaverdamfarm.com/book.htm
Re: Back on the List
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I found it a bit disturbing to hear a BOD member would leave this list in order to avoid a conversation having to do with any issue that is pertaining to the NFHR or its members. Granted, I realize these conversations can, at times, become heated. This is simple human nature, not all will agree on every issue. However, this list often does act as the proverbial "kitchen table", with a multitude of topics arising. In fact, this list is often where many of us members hear of new ideas the BOD is considering or even issues they will be voting on in upcoming meetings. Where else can so many NFHR members actively discuss issues in real time and with a large group of people? Criticism can indeed be hurtful. However, it can also be helpful. It is just a matter of sifting through to the root issues, in many cases. Furthermore, leadership positions are never easy, one must have a thick skin to deal with so many different people and ideas, no doubt! I for one will never knowingly vote for a potential BOD member that is not willing to participate in a group conversation concerning a current NFHR issue. As far as I am concerned, the BOD members represent us, the members. Therefore, it only is logical they realize that we, the members, will have our opinions on specific issues. In fact, a potential BOD member's participation on this list is something I actively consider prior to placing a vote. This list, for many of us, is how we come to "know" other members! Are all NFHR topics going to be banned from this list for conversation? Also, has anyone heard any feedback from the last NFHR BOD meeting? Lynda Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/index.html
RE: Fred's breed show
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Jean, No, haven't practiced with the kids yet but "stroked" all the horses yesterday with the stick horses while making all their noises. Two could care less, and one was a little apprehensive until I worked with her for a while. Now, she could care less... Typical Fjords... they found out that they couldn't eat them... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus 2004. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/friendlyfred98 Subject: Fred's breed show This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Did you practice WITH the other horses and the kids on their stick horses, neighs and clippity clops included?
Re: Ontario Fjord Show
This message is from: "Carol Riviore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - I just returned from the Ontario FJord Show, and I wanted to add to what Lori had to say --- This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I just wanted to share with everyone our experience from the Ontario Fjord > Show held this weekend just past, in Cedar Valley, north of Toronto. > > We had a great show and found it a wonderful, worthwhile experience. Show > organizer Cheryl Beillard of Wake-Robin Farm Fjords had invited Bob van Bon, > Chief Inspector of Fjords in the Netherlands, and his wife Joke (Yoka), to > be our show judges. The depth and breadth of knowledge and experience these > two possess is immediately obvious. The halter classes were operated in a > european evaluation format, assessing each horse individually on the > triangle and giving each animal a score in the five categories of breed > type, conformation, legs, movement, and overall impression. The judge also > talked at length about each animal's strong and weak points. I was really > pleased to receive such detailed expert feedback on my horses at a horse > show - very different from a usual horseshow where the class is pinned and > that is that. My only regret is not bringing more horses to this show! . . . . . . Lori's right! It was a WONDERFULl show, and Cheryl Beillard should receive bouquets of roses for a month for all the organization and hard work it took to achieve. This was not a simple little show. It was well-organized. This was a classy show --- Class with a capital "C" (Norwegian Consul General presenting top prizes) , good food, wonderful European judges, great stabling, fabulous facility including a huge indoor and extensive cross-country course, prizes, ribbons, social time, enthusiastic, kind and friendly competitors. What more could anyone ask for? -- I enjoyed myself tremendously. Enjoyed meeting new (to me) Fjord people from the States and Canada. -- Cheryl kindly lent me one of her mares to drive, and that was great fun! -- Also had fun visiting with Pat Wolf who continuously reminded me that he and I were the "oldest" Fjord folds:" Not sure how I feel about that "old" stuff, but nonetheless, it was great spending time with Pat. --- I was so enthused at the show I told everybody that next year I'd bring my own horse. One of the highlights of the show was Saturday night when Chief Inspector Van Bon presented gold medals from the Dutch Fjord Studbook to some horses he thought were of special quality. -- And I was especially thrilled to hear that three of the recipient horses had come from Beaver Dam Farm. Lori Albrough's 6 yr. old mare, Sparrow, sired by Gjest received a gold medal as Champion mare.--- Another of Lori's horses, Villi, a 12 yr. old gelding also sired by Gjest, received a gold medal as the best riding horse. . . . . The third horse from Beaver Dam Farm to receive a gold medal was the 8 yr. old mare, Riena, owned by Maggi Sullivan, and shown by her mother, Ann Sullivan. --- Riena was hand-picked by Carol Rivoire in Holland and imported by Beaver Dam Farm. -- She was a Champion filly in Holland, and since being imported to the States, and subsequently purchased by the Sullivans, Riena has received a Blue in her Evaluation, as well as Champion Mare at the Woodstock Fjord Show. So, those three prestigious gold medals went to horses all either born and bred in Europe, or sired by European imports. The Gjest son and daughter, Sparrow and Villi, were out of the mare, Cindy, also imported by Beaver Dam Farm. It's times like these that make this business worthwhile. Worthwhile because you know you're doing something right. ~~ Two other Gold Medal horses at the Ontario Show were sired by the Norwegian imported stallion, Felix, who is proving himself an outstanding breeding stallion with a breeding record in Norway that is very impressive. I think these results should be a 'Heads Up' to North American Fjord breeders. I mean the message is pretty clear!And the message is . . . . . BREEDING COUNTS! Best Regards, Carol Rivoire Other highlights from Lori's post . . . . The full results will be posted on the show website but I just wanted to > post a few "brags" here on the list. The Overall Champion Halter horse was a > 2 year old Felix daughter Felicia out of Nagia, shown by Beth Gerst, and the > Champion Gelding was a 4 year old Felix son Uvaer out of Dora, shown by > Nathan Vallilee. Our own 6 year old mare Sparrow, by Gjest and out of our > mare Cindy (an Ostar daughter), was Champion mare. On the Saturday evening dinner, Mr. van Bon gave a most interesting talk and > presented gold medals from the Dutch studbook to recognise the special > horses at the
Re: glad to have you back
This message is from: David Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Welcome Susan! ... and it was a pleasure to meet you this weekend at Phil's open house. David Hagen At 09:50 AM 10/6/2004 -0500, Pat Holland wrote: This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: "Susan M Cargill"> After taking a couple of years off from the List, I've rejoined. Since I'm running for the NFHR Board
Re: "Bad" message....
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/5/2004 4:52:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is strange that all these messages come from Ruthie. Usually these things pick addresses at random. I've really not heard of one continuing to use the same addresses both "to" and "from" over. Steve: I keep close watch on "Bad" emails that get caught in our filter at my work, and I have seen several address that just keep coming up. Sometimes 20 or 30 bad emails a day from the same address. One particular address has been carrying on for over 4 months now. I had contacted the owner and their computers are clean, so we don't know where the emails are actually coming from, but they keep coming! Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
glad to have you back
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: "Susan M Cargill"> After taking a couple of years off from the List, I've rejoined. > Since I'm running for the NFHR Board Glad to have you back on board - both literally and figuratively. Pat Holland
Welcome Cathi
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/5/04 7:39:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hello everybodymy name is Cathi, I am new to this list. I have already > enjoyed readying the postings of the weekend! I live in Longview, > Washington. > We also have a farm in PeEll, Washington, well, five miles from PeEll, so > weare pretty remote there. Hi Cathi, Welcome to the Fjord world! We live in Eugene, OR so we are not far from you. We have a boarding and training facility (not just Fjords), but we always have several Fjords here. Stop by for a visit sometime. The Fjords always welcome someone new to schmooze them!! Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR www.fjordhorse.com
Re: 20 Harnesses (10 pairs) for sale
This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am thinking the yellow polka dot bikini would be great for a costume class : )) Who's up for the challenge ?? Not me I look to much like my Fjord, well rounded LOL!! Roberta - Original Message - From: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > A Fjord in an itsy bitsy teeny weenie yellow polka dot bikini! What a > picture that'd be!
Re: need advice
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To teach her to lead you can loop a soft rope around her butt and run it through the halter and put pressure on that. release the pressure at the slightest try, then try again, do the same with the pressure on the halter. she'll soon learn how to relieve the pressure rather than pushing into it. Leading to the side a bit with the halter to displace her feet also helps, again a bit of pressure, hold steady until she releases the pressure herself. do small stepas at a time, she wil soon learn. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska >I could use some advice on how to handle a 5 month old weanling. Another little wrinkle is >that she has NO interest in being led...I can back her, turn her in a >circle but she plants her feet at going forward. She won't follow "Uncle >Icy" while my husband leads him around. Maybe I'm expecting too much of >her too soon and I will admit that I'm not a trainer.
Fred's breed show
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Did you practice WITH the other horses and the kids on their stick horses, neighs and clippity clops included? Years ago I was going to take my Fjords to a "Parade of Breeds" here..decided to take old Bjarne over to the neighbor's arena to practice driving the cart..after all, what can happen in an arena? I had forgotten his curb bit, but had Stella's snaffle bit on the bridle. Oh Well, "WHAT CAN HAPPEN IN AN ARENA?" I forgot that he had been in pulling contests (and abused) before I got him and was nervous in arenas. But he had driven fine on a side road. So we started out fine at a walk..Then a trot and somethng went "CLANK!" and he spurted off into a canter. headed for the gate. "Certainly he'll stop at the gate" I thought. No, He JUMPED the gate (a rickety wooden one, thank goodness) the cart crashed through and we careened around a manure pile on one wheel and then down the road toward a busy highway. This was a sturdy oak road cart much like a meadowbrook with big wheels. Hauling on both reins only gave him leverage with his chin to his chest, so I realized "THIS ISN'T WORKING!" So I crouched down in the basket in front of the seat and dropped one rein to pull his head around with the other..finally got him slowed down and turned into a clump of small trees which stopped him. I got out, shaking. I didn't know how to drive, that is for sure, but I later learned of his history as a pulling horse. I never drove him again, but he turned out to be a great trail horse. I took Stella and Brunner's yearling filly to the Breed show and took some driving lessons. Since that episode I have learned much from the Carriage Driving List, and other driving lists, clinics and driving magazines and understand that driving can be rather dangerous, especially in public places! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, a gorgeous day, 55 degrees and sun, but rain and snow predicted tomorrow. >We're getting excited about the Breed Show this weekend, and getting >everything ready. >I practiced a driving routine for an hour today, to coincide with what the >two ridden horses will be doing. > >There will be a half dozen kids following us into the ring on stick horses, >with battery operated neighs, snorts and clippity clops built in. > >Fred